RandolTheFox No, there was a rumour going around in burning crusade that in order to make a death knight you had to kill on of your existing characters to make them a death knight.
@@GlitchedChocolate In Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne he did exactly just that. He said Arthas when he was not LK yet, that the Lich King sent him to guide Arthas to the Frozen Throne and to protect him. So it would have made sense actually. :-)
everyone seems to say BC is their favorite expansion, but i genuinely loved Wrath over all others. The rise and fall of arthas leading up to and including his death will always be one of my favorite stories of all time. On top of that, raiding, grouping with the LFD feature, paladin lore (my favorite class), server/realm community, and just generally how it felt to me logging into WoW every day was just better then. So far there hasnt been an expansion that tops WotLK in my opinion. If and when Blizz comes out with a Wrath legacy server, ill probably be signing up day one.
I started with the BC and I didn't like it a single bit, the game just seemed too stale and boring, maybe it's just lack of variety of skills or something, I don't know. Then the Wotlk came out and it felt like a completely different game, there was enough amount of new content to make the game more interesting, entertaining to play, but not too much to the point where you have to almost learn it all over again. Any other expansion after Wotlk is utter garbage, I hate it, so much new shit added, so many changes to skills, ect.. Playing Wotlk to this day and I'm never touching any other expansions.
Wrath and BC best Cata not bad tho either man I miss Wow lol... BC and Wrath was lore fest from w3 especially wrathw3 left so many wtfs regarding Arthas and so many players still prob don't know who Arthas or Nerzhul is... Wish I woulda played Legion Sargeras is a sad story.
Wrath was the perfect expansion. Casual content wasn't just a watered down version of hardcore content (LFR). Casuals could work towards dungeon tier gear by doing dungeons that were actually challenging (the dungeon where you would run from the lich king was hard for a casual). The theme of Wrath was amazing (The whole demon theme has gotten so stale, it was the main focus of BC, main focus of most of WoD, and main focus of Legion, and next xpac will probably be demon focused), leveling was fun and could be different through multiple playthroughs (way better than how legion tried to do it)
Yeah the demons are REALLY stale. The Lich / undead theme is much less used, and the art is far cooler. The Lich theme is why I liked wrath so much. Nerubians would have made it even better.
You are delusional. Even with crappy gear, tanks could pull 3 groups and tank them easily. Dungeons were, for 1st time, easy shit. And stayed there after. Also, Wotlk was 1st expansion in which all classes could do everything in pvp. All had stun, all had silence, all had charge. ALSO, wotlk had implemented achievements and item level, two of most heinous features to date.
Originally Malygos was going to be a whole raid Tier, with more bosses and more loot, with Trolls and Blue Dragon raid loot being moved to Naxxramas. It is common for Blizzard to port raid bosses from their original purpose to the beginning of an expansion as well as turning raids into 5-man's when Blizzard thinks they don't have enough raid content on release(moving bosses to the front) or if they don't have enough 5-man's(turning raids into 5-mans). If these expansions were being released today they would not have bothered and kept them as raids to be released at a later date. Examples of raids turned into 5-man's are Utgarde Pinnacle, Halls of Origination, Mogu-Shan Palace and Shadowmoon Burial Grounds.
I was quite disappointed that Cataclysm's biggest bosses, Nefarian, Ragnaros and Deathwing, were all recycled characters. The only original boss in Cata was Cho'gall.
I honestly tried looking up cut content of BC...but the only thing I really found was someone saying that Metzen stated that there would be portals to other worlds on Outland. We kinda can see this in the game especially in Zangarmarsh, where you can find a portal on the edge of the zone. I believe that these portals would have probably lead to the Ethereal homeworld maybe. However, considering the fact that Hellfire Peninsula was originally planned to be part of classic WoW, I could see that there actually isn't much cut content for this particular expansion. They worked on Burning Crusade from the earliest days on so they had plenty of time. Hell, Black Morass and the Caverns of Time are part of WoW since alpha/beta.
I don't play Wow currently so I don't know if they finally added them but I remember being disappointed that we never got those new dances they promised us in the wrath trailer.
in regards to the Nerubians and the old gods, one of the main reasons the Nerubians were so utterly crushed is actually because they turned their back on the old gods- when the Scourge came, they were unable to hold their own because the Scourge attacked them from above and the Faceless from below, utterly destroying their civilization.
God damn it WotLK is so nostalgic to me. It was the only expansion I took part of 100% of the content, had the most free time during my high-school life to devote to it, had all my best RP moments back on the Venture Co. lvl 60 twinking, and had the undisputed best zone music in the game to date. I tear up more than I used to listening to Grizzly Hills and Storm Peaks because, as an adult, I just miss those simpler and more enjoyable times.
They def cut a troll raid from WotLK. I mean both vanilla and tbc had one then we had that enormous troll zone. All the puzzle pieces were in place, As good as wrath was it def seemed as if they were rushing things especially with that trial of the crusader raid. IMO they shouldn't of even had that, they shoulda did a troll raid and then moved Anub to ICC if they were on borrowed time.
people didnt like the vehicle combat and OCC because people were too stupid/lazy to read what the buttons did and figure out the order of the buttons outside of the timestop one. so you had mooks spamming the "1" button and in effect wasting time doing minimal damage. those of us who put in the small amount of effort to figure that shit out, actually liked the vehicle combat and OCC, well most of us anyways I think.
no one ever mentions what has been discussed as a possible vyrkul themed raid in the north western portion of icecrown in the huge vyrkul citadel. It looked so amazing and the questing area for the vyrkul around it was pretty fun. Would have loved to have seen that as a raid :(
I remember playing the Wrath Beta back in the day. Air Combat was implemented thousand winter. But the server had lags and crashes everytime when ppl used the flying maschines. Blizzard removed the flaying maschines after a while in Beta and never came back. So i guess the real reason is that they didn't manage to fix lags and crashes.
The reason Dalaran lagged was because people were waiting for ques in dungeon finder and had nothing to do because they swept through the content so quick that they piled up there in boredom.
A vrykul raid was also rumoured/planned (can't remember which one it was) but I do believe that was the case, considering all the naxx 25 items using vrykul skins.
honestly, vehicles would have been more appreciated if there was something more about progressing it and having something we could do to make it better beyond later making vehicles (sometimes) scale based off our gear.
If they were clever they would have saved Azol-nerub as a quest zone for dailies to fight our to a raid for anubarak. it uncovered a passage to the lich king's fortress at Ice crown. Similar to the path Anub and Arthas took to beat illidan there. All of Wrath could have been set up alittle different. For a horde of undead that are almost limitless. We fought our way to ice crown pretty easily and didn't feel much like it super hard. Yes we had help of the aspects and All of azeroth but still. Should have felt tougher
Just assume people from England, and it's historical satellite colonies will pronounce shit horribly , furthermore expect them to pronounce the letter H as Hate che (as one Word) and say naught instead of 0.
"I don't think pvp dogfighting would have been that fun" That *really* depends on how well it's done. There are some games that capture fantasy dogfighting pretty well.. and although melee characters may need a little extra work done to keep it balanced (maybe give them ranged weapons and class-specific attacks for said weapons), if it's done well, it could be *insanely* fun.. but they'd need to nerf mounted casters and huntards to keep it even remotely balanced.
I'd say they're interesting for different reasons; Cataclysm was extremely ambitious so the choices of what to cut would be very interesting, while WoD is a case of the entire development process breaking down halfway through.
With Wrath of the Lich King Classic already done and finished it's sadly through we didn't get to see the great flying combat along with crystalsong forest quests, azjol'nerub zone, Frost Troll Raid, and Dance Studio. I probably take it that Classic Cataclysm might follow the same thing of same content but no scrapped added in features or content for Cataclysm.
blizzard starts and drops things unfinished. in WOTLK, blues admitted they did a ton of work on Ulduar, they also admitted while finishing working on ICC, they add Argent Tourney, TOC, it was quick time sink while they pressed with ICC. which enabled players to bypass Ulduar and go straight into ICC. Blues have posted, admitted it was a mistake, they were disappointed in Ulduar participation for all the work they did. the missing raid you are wondering about in Zundrak....we got in MOP....throne of thunder...yeap blizz was behind in WOTLK, so work ICC raid, troll raid before Ulduar after....troll raid dropped blizz as you know WOW history and decisions, they once were looking at what we played as Legion minus broken shore, Argus, and possiblby no suramar with the two islands of BFA as one expac. the more you look into it this occurs in their other expacs, and the hap hazard sequence of release many who played Legion felt at start it seemed like a expac, that should have been released either after WOTLK or before. actually if implemented would have been before WOTLK but was dumped as a pirate based expac. i believe the expacs should have been in this order Van wow, WOTLK, BFA with broken shore part, MOP. makes most sense while doing BFA that MOP is discovered per blizz video Van WOW, parts of BC should have been patched in as blizzard was going to do Kara, ZA, intro two new races Argus zone in legion, i don't care how blizz twists the lore, this appears to fit in more into BC on a later patch that isle of quel danas. doing quel up was quicker than finishing argus. if Argus is the zone that was intended and renegged for WOD farahlon. since WOD was outland in a different time farahlon would have been a version of netherstorm. many felt robbed in WOD and blizzards reason lame. truth it was unfinished....Tanaan was quick, easy to set up and open, as a isle of quel, argent tourney, timeless isle, etc
Anyone else noticing that Blizzard has been trying to make up for the Nerubians by adding unnecessary spider people to every expansion^ since then? They didn't even bother to explain WoD's spider people, and Legion has two different kinds of spider people. I'd like to say the do a good job making each them unique and interesting... but they don't. They're just kind of there usually. Many of them are even using Nerubian sound effects. ^ Excluding MoP, which had the Mantid... which, honestly, were probably the only ones who were given a respectable amount of lore (arguably more than the Pandaren themselves).
I swear, normally I can see past mispronunciations and what not, but boi! BOI!! That nairubians-bs was sooo distracting lol. Please! NERUBIANS, Bellular. But eh, apart from this, great vid.
Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King and Mists of Pandaria are my favourite Expansions. Cataclysm was... average while Warlords of Disappointment was... well a disappointment... Legion has a good story... but the Diablo like grinding is ... not for me..
need to know what the cut content/story line regarding the Lich King and Yogg-sarron, they keep saying the partnership/understanding/relationship between the 2 wasn't expressed as well as they would've liked... so, does this mean people didn't interpret it as well as Blizz thought they would've, were there missing parts of the story that would've explained it better, the theory of Yogg-Sarron using Arthas as more of a pawn than he believed, what was the deal??? Especially the inclusion of the vision of Arthas torturing Bolvar in the Yogg-Sarron raid... thoughts, theories??
Malygosu? Wtf is this? Malygos... Pretty easy to GOOGLE, you know... One of the OG dragon aspects?... Besides that ^ syringe piercing my brain, I thought you made a decent video.
Oh there was tons of cut content. If you have the ability to browse through the DB files with an editor program you can find a couple dozen cut items for various WOTLK dungeons and raids, such as a minigun with Ulduar flair, an Ulduar crossbow with a Titan face on the front, and various other items from lost vrykul dungeons that had been planned. There was approximately double the number of dungeons planned for WOTLK if you go by the number of models they produced for items.
Cutting dancing was good because it was a waste of resources? THEY STILL CUT RAIDS. They would rather just save money and put out the minimum content period
Trial of the Champion was the 5 man dungeon, Trial of the Crusader (Grand Crusader being HC) was the raid. See nobody caught on to that, too busy Q_Qing about the pronunciation of Nerubian.
I liked WRATH but that' really was only from a Lore and Guild raiding prospective other wise i hated everything else about the game already. Wrath was wows highest moment but it was also its worst mistake. This expansion is where you really see Activision's Take over completely inserting there Less work and pay for higher profits stuff we see scumbag company's do all the time now. This is also where we see wow turn from a Western RPG to a HYBRID of east and west. Because by this time western rpgs were dyeing all across the west except you know in the so called basements with dad sharing his DND love with his kids. Replaced by eastern RPGs because CONSOLE wars. JRPGS for many are just RPGS now. I know better RPGs and JRPGs are different. One is full of pc crap and the other is full of Darkness and unfairness. Guess what side darksouls leans towards... You bet your ass its more western then eastern RPG. there are many of us that want the return of TRUE RPGS to the main stream. Im sick of seeing big breast girls with some MORON male protagonist games. Id rather see some asshole badass male like Kratos any day. Course id rather see the typical JRPG then the New PC crap i see today. Its funny how they say as you get older the more stubborn you are to change. I never imagined it would be over something like this however.
Bellular, can you please put a little time into learning the god damn names of races, cities, countries etc? A little fucking effort please.... Nairubians? Azjol-Nayrub? Are they from Nairobi?
Surprised WotLK doesn't get mentioned more on the private server scene >.> its imo the culmination of what vanilla and wow "peaked" at system and delivery wise, before Blizz decided to go the "scrap it and redo" route by xpacs.
Uthgarde keep raid would be cool, even some weapons from naxx and icc 5-mans looks just like ones that should be in vyrkul raid of some sort (and troll one too). Shame we just get naxxramas :/
never experienced any major or "famous" lag and fps drops back then. looks like your hardware and the actual blizz US servers were rly bad back then. with a serious connection ive never experienced any major lags
5:30 Not entirely correct. There were smooth transitions used in wotlk/northrend for some quest lines. Especially for the DK Quest Lines. The technology was already there and actively used.
dance studio was a bad thing to cut... it pisses people off when you even mention it in game and it's not the real thing. it's been time and time again blizzard has done this and slapped their players in the face. you, and blizzard don't seem to understand how such a "novel idea" can affect people. there is thousands of players who do nothing in the game but RP all day. do you think they're fine with having the same shitty dance on every single race? no. you also seem to not have researched much at all with the gun'drak raid... you didn't even once mention the giant snake.
i think tbc classic is rather stale and boring. wrath will give me achievement points wich gives me something to do outside of raid logging and enjoy the expansion in it's whole. Wrath is also at least for me when i really got into the game and every time i think about reliving it it's giving me goosebumps and think about all the awesome memories i had, wich is indeed me being biased into wrath but numbers showed in the active subs when it launched in 2008 that it was genuinely the best time for world of warcraft.
the sad thing about wrath having content cut was how extra much time they had to do it. Sunwell in TBC was only released because wrath wasn't done it yet. And TOC was not supposed to be a raid but ICC wasn't done yet. Look at the lack of content in general since wrath. fukin activsion.
I feel like I would have preferred one big gundrak style raid instead of a bunch of small dragon raids. The dragon stuff should have just been a few small quest chains, heck even just mini dungeons.
ninja looting was part of the fun X( earnign that gear with the rolls was thrilling!!! i remeber when i won the obsidian lair mount 25 man with 100 roll after 24 others rolled and i was the leader and we wiped as fuck as a pug i remade the group several times then downed it 3 drakes up and i fucking won the mount! it was like a huge fucking feeling of acomplishment!
i saw the azul nerub place and i just thought "If blizzard cuts entire zones because they think its a bad plan" How many tiers of raids have they cut and rather put in argent dawn, Pet battles Etc have they put in in stead of tier raids. Worrying.
Yeah, I remember when my DK was the top DK leveler at the launch of WotLK and I saw this place. I swore we were getting a Troll raid for the longest time. Biggest. Letdown. EVER!
omg, malygos raid was the worst. Not because the raid was poorly done or the phase three was bad, but because phase three was sooooooooo hard to get people to think in three dimensions. I got our guild around it by making people use macros to follow me, but trying to get everyone to coordinate in 3d on their own was the worst. I would have loved to see a gundrak raid or azul nerub raid instead of the crusader trials, lol. I just thought that was a lazy raid and dungeon myself. And nerubians as a playable race, still hoping for that.
Had a few pronunciation issues in recent videos, maybe a little bit of looking into the pronunciations ahead of time? Great video either way, just for posterity it would be good to be sure. Either way a minor gripe.
3:15 nerubians were not in the service of the old gods, i thought? iirc during the war of the spider the nerubians dug really deep and fucked themselves because they unleashed faceless ones and accidentally started a two front war
What about Mal'ganis? i read somewhere that he was going to be an important part in ICC becasuse some scarlet crusaders things but it was cut ... do you know something about it?
Wasn't there two dungeons in Gun'Drak? Forgot the names but one was near the Grizzly Hills entrance and the other was in the North Eastern corner of the zone.
I don't like your video in video thing you got going here. It distracts me from the actual content of the video. Otherwise great video, informative and such.
what made you decide to show your face in your newer videos? it's alittle annoying to see your clips now and constantly see your face in the bottom left corner:/ big fan of your content tho :)
I don't think you being in the corner of the video adds anything good to your video. It just distracts from the footage because we have the need to focus an other peoples eyes, so we have to suppress the urge to look into the lower left corner.
I read a rumor after wrath was out that sunwell was originally going to be in wrath but because they ended up feeling they had released black temple too soon they moved sunwell to tbc.
You know the one I wanted to see. The Sacrifice one of your characters to make it a Death Knight, rather then the DK's we got.
RandolTheFox No, there was a rumour going around in burning crusade that in order to make a death knight you had to kill on of your existing characters to make them a death knight.
and you got to keep some abilities/ability spin offs from your previous class lmfao that would be great
too much effort to make it work tho interesting idea
What would even be the point of that other than RP? You'd end up just rolling a new character knowing full well you were going to change it into a DK.
@@blackopsy9 it's called mmoRPg for a reason
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I really wanted an underground bug raid in WotLK
People didn't like AQ40, and they didn't like Heart of Fear. Face it -- underground bugs are creepy.
HoF was well received. It fit the Pandaria theme very well and the bosses were fun except for windlord.
Just imagine a raid full of nerubian spell flingers and a raid that does not interrupt xD That would have been hell.
Yep would have been awesome
lol it just got 240p on MS Edge. Progress I guess? -_-
Anub'arak should've been ICC raid boss in my opinion
There should have been a full raid dedicated to the nerubians with he as the final boss.
Anub'arak has his own kingdom, so it would be kind of wierd for him to defend someone else... i agree with Nicolas tho
@@GlitchedChocolate Anub' Arak should have a raid located in Azjol Nerub the developers just didn't use full potential of this zone.
@@GlitchedChocolate In Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne he did exactly just that. He said Arthas when he was not LK yet, that the Lich King sent him to guide Arthas to the Frozen Throne and to protect him. So it would have made sense actually. :-)
''nairubians'' What are those? Must've been cut mobs.
I think he means Nairobians. Which are people from Nairobi...
Are there any ziggurats in Nairobi?
They're probably from Zalandar.
yeah really funny man so funny haha really funny
Obligatory "What''s a Nubian?"
Nubia - An area (former nation) in Southern Egypt and northern Sudan.
everyone seems to say BC is their favorite expansion, but i genuinely loved Wrath over all others. The rise and fall of arthas leading up to and including his death will always be one of my favorite stories of all time. On top of that, raiding, grouping with the LFD feature, paladin lore (my favorite class), server/realm community, and just generally how it felt to me logging into WoW every day was just better then. So far there hasnt been an expansion that tops WotLK in my opinion. If and when Blizz comes out with a Wrath legacy server, ill probably be signing up day one.
I started with the BC and I didn't like it a single bit, the game just seemed too stale and boring, maybe it's just lack of variety of skills or something, I don't know. Then the Wotlk came out and it felt like a completely different game, there was enough amount of new content to make the game more interesting, entertaining to play, but not too much to the point where you have to almost learn it all over again. Any other expansion after Wotlk is utter garbage, I hate it, so much new shit added, so many changes to skills, ect.. Playing Wotlk to this day and I'm never touching any other expansions.
Wrath and BC best Cata not bad tho either man I miss Wow lol... BC and Wrath was lore fest from w3 especially wrathw3 left so many wtfs regarding Arthas and so many players still prob don't know who Arthas or Nerzhul is... Wish I woulda played Legion Sargeras is a sad story.
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Awful wording.
"why develop something that isn't fun" *cough cough* nethershards and apexis
More generally, "WoD Patches" and "the campaign of the ToS"
what is Wod?
ITS VANILLA, TBC WOTLK CATA MOP AND LEGION all 5 expansions
*cough*broken shore*cough*
You forgot Timeless Coins.
Nymri 09 It wasnt bad because you werent FORCED to farm it
nErubians. not NAIrubians.
"Stuff needs to be cut for the greater good"
Shows auction house disco party in the video as he says it.
*slow claps* Well done.
Greatest expansion ever really miss wrath I hope blizz launch and wrath server at some point
soon
Wrath was the perfect expansion. Casual content wasn't just a watered down version of hardcore content (LFR). Casuals could work towards dungeon tier gear by doing dungeons that were actually challenging (the dungeon where you would run from the lich king was hard for a casual). The theme of Wrath was amazing (The whole demon theme has gotten so stale, it was the main focus of BC, main focus of most of WoD, and main focus of Legion, and next xpac will probably be demon focused), leveling was fun and could be different through multiple playthroughs (way better than how legion tried to do it)
Yeah the demons are REALLY stale. The Lich / undead theme is much less used, and the art is far cooler.
The Lich theme is why I liked wrath so much. Nerubians would have made it even better.
i used to love inspecting some motherfucker with fucking SHADOWMOURNE, you knew that guy was big dick
You are delusional. Even with crappy gear, tanks could pull 3 groups and tank them easily. Dungeons were, for 1st time, easy shit. And stayed there after.
Also, Wotlk was 1st expansion in which all classes could do everything in pvp. All had stun, all had silence, all had charge.
ALSO, wotlk had implemented achievements and item level, two of most heinous features to date.
The whole underground arachnid kingdom, kel'thuzad, lich king and the new ulduar will be great content in the future
Oh. I'm somewhat early here. Greets! Sorry to point it out but uh... Neh-rubians.
Nayrubians :D
Miss BC & wrath days :(
Peak WoW!
Here's to hoping for a full Azjol-nerub as part of an old gods themed expansion.
Originally Malygos was going to be a whole raid Tier, with more bosses and more loot, with Trolls and Blue Dragon raid loot being moved to Naxxramas. It is common for Blizzard to port raid bosses from their original purpose to the beginning of an expansion as well as turning raids into 5-man's when Blizzard thinks they don't have enough raid content on release(moving bosses to the front) or if they don't have enough 5-man's(turning raids into 5-mans). If these expansions were being released today they would not have bothered and kept them as raids to be released at a later date. Examples of raids turned into 5-man's are Utgarde Pinnacle, Halls of Origination, Mogu-Shan Palace and Shadowmoon Burial Grounds.
I was quite disappointed that Cataclysm's biggest bosses, Nefarian, Ragnaros and Deathwing, were all recycled characters. The only original boss in Cata was Cho'gall.
Crystalsong Forest is my favorite zone.
i mean you can still play wotlk, but on a priv server :) im doing that.
Nobody asked and nobody cares
ryste, did you really just respond a year later to be a dick?
Are you gonna do a BC cut content video?
I honestly tried looking up cut content of BC...but the only thing I really found was someone saying that Metzen stated that there would be portals to other worlds on Outland. We kinda can see this in the game especially in Zangarmarsh, where you can find a portal on the edge of the zone. I believe that these portals would have probably lead to the Ethereal homeworld maybe.
However, considering the fact that Hellfire Peninsula was originally planned to be part of classic WoW, I could see that there actually isn't much cut content for this particular expansion. They worked on Burning Crusade from the earliest days on so they had plenty of time. Hell, Black Morass and the Caverns of Time are part of WoW since alpha/beta.
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madafaka boss pfft PEASANT! Im rocking these mfers on mein 720p 14inch Monitor. Get rekt son!
Issack Darur when the video came out it was avalabile only in 360 so eat batshit -_-
madafaka boss When people on the internet can't read sarcasm. Who tf brags about 720p monitors? Fucking daft bitch you are
I don't play Wow currently so I don't know if they finally added them but I remember being disappointed that we never got those new dances they promised us in the wrath trailer.
Nope, still not there.
Please dont put the idea is blizzards head. I dont want fortnite dances please
I'm surprised there's no mention of the Path of the Titans system which eventually turned into the glyph system.
and the removed...and then returned as whatever the fuck that new Netherlight-like thing for BfA is.
in regards to the Nerubians and the old gods, one of the main reasons the Nerubians were so utterly crushed is actually because they turned their back on the old gods- when the Scourge came, they were unable to hold their own because the Scourge attacked them from above and the Faceless from below, utterly destroying their civilization.
This sounds incredibly irony and hilarious.
God damn it WotLK is so nostalgic to me. It was the only expansion I took part of 100% of the content, had the most free time during my high-school life to devote to it, had all my best RP moments back on the Venture Co. lvl 60 twinking, and had the undisputed best zone music in the game to date. I tear up more than I used to listening to Grizzly Hills and Storm Peaks because, as an adult, I just miss those simpler and more enjoyable times.
Nerubians not nirubians. It's an "eh" sound, not a hard i. "neh-roo-b-ians"
Nuroobeanz
Narutobeans
They def cut a troll raid from WotLK. I mean both vanilla and tbc had one then we had that enormous troll zone. All the puzzle pieces were in place, As good as wrath was it def seemed as if they were rushing things especially with that trial of the crusader raid. IMO they shouldn't of even had that, they shoulda did a troll raid and then moved Anub to ICC if they were on borrowed time.
people didnt like the vehicle combat and OCC because people were too stupid/lazy to read what the buttons did and figure out the order of the buttons outside of the timestop one. so you had mooks spamming the "1" button and in effect wasting time doing minimal damage. those of us who put in the small amount of effort to figure that shit out, actually liked the vehicle combat and OCC, well most of us anyways I think.
Lol garrisons were laggy from start till end of Xpac I had no issues in Wrath Dala
no one ever mentions what has been discussed as a possible vyrkul themed raid in the north western portion of icecrown in the huge vyrkul citadel. It looked so amazing and the questing area for the vyrkul around it was pretty fun. Would have loved to have seen that as a raid :(
"Nairobians?" "Ya-Shiraj?" I die inside every time someone butchers the pronunciation of lore names (eyes Bellular, Nobbel, and Taliesin)
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Wrath was fun prob but unpopular opinion i love BFA and that is my fav to date
10:28 I miss the dance studio idea. I guess I am in the minority here though... :/
I remember playing the Wrath Beta back in the day. Air Combat was implemented thousand winter. But the server had lags and crashes everytime when ppl used the flying maschines.
Blizzard removed the flaying maschines after a while in Beta and never came back. So i guess the real reason is that they didn't manage to fix lags and crashes.
Wrath still remains my favorite expansion.
The reason Dalaran lagged was because people were waiting for ques in dungeon finder and had nothing to do because they swept through the content so quick that they piled up there in boredom.
A vrykul raid was also rumoured/planned (can't remember which one it was) but I do believe that was the case, considering all the naxx 25 items using vrykul skins.
God, Wotlk sounds like it could have been much more fun that it is. I also thought that the Vyrkuls had potential to have a great raid.
"Trial of the Champion"
*Trial of the Crusader
honestly, vehicles would have been more appreciated if there was something more about progressing it and having something we could do to make it better beyond later making vehicles (sometimes) scale based off our gear.
Watching this during The War Within
If they were clever they would have saved Azol-nerub as a quest zone for dailies to fight our to a raid for anubarak. it uncovered a passage to the lich king's fortress at Ice crown. Similar to the path Anub and Arthas took to beat illidan there.
All of Wrath could have been set up alittle different. For a horde of undead that are almost limitless. We fought our way to ice crown pretty easily and didn't feel much like it super hard. Yes we had help of the aspects and All of azeroth but still. Should have felt tougher
Are they called Nirubians or Nerubians? You've confused me.
AFoS Cz that's what I thought, but I got confused by the way Bell was pronouncing it.
Daniel Gramento nayrunbians
nerdubians
Nigerians
Just assume people from England, and it's historical satellite colonies will pronounce shit horribly , furthermore expect them to pronounce the letter H as Hate che (as one Word) and say naught instead of 0.
I want them to give us voice options when creating characters. I want my Belf to sound more unique not like everyone else.
#WoWVoiceChoice
"I don't think pvp dogfighting would have been that fun"
That *really* depends on how well it's done. There are some games that capture fantasy dogfighting pretty well.. and although melee characters may need a little extra work done to keep it balanced (maybe give them ranged weapons and class-specific attacks for said weapons), if it's done well, it could be *insanely* fun.. but they'd need to nerf mounted casters and huntards to keep it even remotely balanced.
MOON GUARD SUFFERED FROM LACK OF DANCE STUDIO
Another great video!!
Very interesting what blizzard decided to scrap and what actually stayed
Wasn't the patch of titans supposed to come in LK?
came too early... fucking 360 club
Cataclysm is one of the most interesting cases of cut content? WoD would disagree.
WoD can pretty much be summed up as "We fucked up, let's get this over with". Not too interesting haha
I'd say they're interesting for different reasons; Cataclysm was extremely ambitious so the choices of what to cut would be very interesting, while WoD is a case of the entire development process breaking down halfway through.
Wrath was the best expansion. Yeah you could tell Crystalsong Forest had more potential, and there was really not much there. Flying battles...sigh.
remember path of the titans? remember how DK was gonna have a real long hard quest line to unlock?
With Wrath of the Lich King Classic already done and finished it's sadly through we didn't get to see the great flying combat along with crystalsong forest quests, azjol'nerub zone, Frost Troll Raid, and Dance Studio. I probably take it that Classic Cataclysm might follow the same thing of same content but no scrapped added in features or content for Cataclysm.
blizzard starts and drops things unfinished.
in WOTLK, blues admitted they did a ton of work on Ulduar, they also admitted while finishing working on ICC, they add Argent Tourney, TOC, it was quick time sink while they pressed with ICC. which enabled players to bypass Ulduar and go straight into ICC. Blues have posted, admitted it was a mistake, they were disappointed in Ulduar participation for all the work they did.
the missing raid you are wondering about in Zundrak....we got in MOP....throne of thunder...yeap
blizz was behind in WOTLK, so work ICC raid, troll raid before Ulduar after....troll raid dropped
blizz as you know WOW history and decisions, they once were looking at what we played as Legion minus broken shore, Argus, and possiblby no suramar with the two islands of BFA as one expac.
the more you look into it this occurs in their other expacs, and the hap hazard sequence of release
many who played Legion felt at start it seemed like a expac, that should have been released either after WOTLK or before. actually if implemented would have been before WOTLK but was dumped as a pirate based expac.
i believe the expacs should have been in this order Van wow, WOTLK, BFA with broken shore part, MOP. makes most sense while doing BFA that MOP is discovered per blizz video
Van WOW, parts of BC should have been patched in as blizzard was going to do Kara, ZA, intro two new races
Argus zone in legion, i don't care how blizz twists the lore, this appears to fit in more into BC on a later patch that isle of quel danas. doing quel up was quicker than finishing argus.
if Argus is the zone that was intended and renegged for WOD farahlon. since WOD was outland in a different time farahlon would have been a version of netherstorm. many felt robbed in WOD and blizzards reason lame. truth it was unfinished....Tanaan was quick, easy to set up and open, as a isle of quel, argent tourney, timeless isle, etc
Anyone else noticing that Blizzard has been trying to make up for the Nerubians by adding unnecessary spider people to every expansion^ since then? They didn't even bother to explain WoD's spider people, and Legion has two different kinds of spider people. I'd like to say the do a good job making each them unique and interesting... but they don't. They're just kind of there usually. Many of them are even using Nerubian sound effects.
^ Excluding MoP, which had the Mantid... which, honestly, were probably the only ones who were given a respectable amount of lore (arguably more than the Pandaren themselves).
My favorite expansion!!
I swear, normally I can see past mispronunciations and what not, but boi! BOI!! That nairubians-bs was sooo distracting lol. Please! NERUBIANS, Bellular. But eh, apart from this, great vid.
Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King and Mists of Pandaria are my favourite Expansions. Cataclysm was... average while Warlords of Disappointment was... well a disappointment... Legion has a good story... but the Diablo like grinding is ... not for me..
need to know what the cut content/story line regarding the Lich King and Yogg-sarron, they keep saying the partnership/understanding/relationship between the 2 wasn't expressed as well as they would've liked... so, does this mean people didn't interpret it as well as Blizz thought they would've, were there missing parts of the story that would've explained it better, the theory of Yogg-Sarron using Arthas as more of a pawn than he believed, what was the deal??? Especially the inclusion of the vision of Arthas torturing Bolvar in the Yogg-Sarron raid... thoughts, theories??
Malygosu? Wtf is this? Malygos... Pretty easy to GOOGLE, you know... One of the OG dragon aspects?...
Besides that ^ syringe piercing my brain, I thought you made a decent video.
Oh there was tons of cut content. If you have the ability to browse through the DB files with an editor program you can find a couple dozen cut items for various WOTLK dungeons and raids, such as a minigun with Ulduar flair, an Ulduar crossbow with a Titan face on the front, and various other items from lost vrykul dungeons that had been planned. There was approximately double the number of dungeons planned for WOTLK if you go by the number of models they produced for items.
loved the flying combat on the Drakes during the dungeons and raids
Cutting dancing was good because it was a waste of resources? THEY STILL CUT RAIDS. They would rather just save money and put out the minimum content period
Trial of the Champion was the 5 man dungeon, Trial of the Crusader (Grand Crusader being HC) was the raid.
See nobody caught on to that, too busy Q_Qing about the pronunciation of Nerubian.
I liked WRATH but that' really was only from a Lore and Guild raiding prospective other wise i hated everything else about the game already. Wrath was wows highest moment but it was also its worst mistake. This expansion is where you really see Activision's Take over completely inserting there Less work and pay for higher profits stuff we see scumbag company's do all the time now. This is also where we see wow turn from a Western RPG to a HYBRID of east and west. Because by this time western rpgs were dyeing all across the west except you know in the so called basements with dad sharing his DND love with his kids. Replaced by eastern RPGs because CONSOLE wars. JRPGS for many are just RPGS now. I know better RPGs and JRPGs are different. One is full of pc crap and the other is full of Darkness and unfairness. Guess what side darksouls leans towards... You bet your ass its more western then eastern RPG. there are many of us that want the return of TRUE RPGS to the main stream. Im sick of seeing big breast girls with some MORON male protagonist games. Id rather see some asshole badass male like Kratos any day. Course id rather see the typical JRPG then the New PC crap i see today. Its funny how they say as you get older the more stubborn you are to change. I never imagined it would be over something like this however.
Bellular, can you please put a little time into learning the god damn names of races, cities, countries etc? A little fucking effort please.... Nairubians? Azjol-Nayrub? Are they from Nairobi?
Surprised WotLK doesn't get mentioned more on the private server scene >.> its imo the culmination of what vanilla and wow "peaked" at system and delivery wise, before Blizz decided to go the "scrap it and redo" route by xpacs.
Uthgarde keep raid would be cool, even some weapons from naxx and icc 5-mans looks just like ones that should be in vyrkul raid of some sort (and troll one too). Shame we just get naxxramas :/
never experienced any major or "famous" lag and fps drops back then. looks like your hardware and the actual blizz US servers were rly bad back then. with a serious connection ive never experienced any major lags
I thought the dance studio and dance battles were an April fools joke.
Every comment in a nutshell: "WoD sucked! What's a NIHrubian? wAs ThIs ReCoRdEd On A pOtAtO?!?"
5:30 Not entirely correct. There were smooth transitions used in wotlk/northrend for some quest lines. Especially for the DK Quest Lines. The technology was already there and actively used.
dance studio was a bad thing to cut... it pisses people off when you even mention it in game and it's not the real thing. it's been time and time again blizzard has done this and slapped their players in the face. you, and blizzard don't seem to understand how such a "novel idea" can affect people. there is thousands of players who do nothing in the game but RP all day. do you think they're fine with having the same shitty dance on every single race? no.
you also seem to not have researched much at all with the gun'drak raid... you didn't even once mention the giant snake.
4:09 Trial of the champion? Please did you even raid ToC / ToGCs ? Should know it's Trial of the Crusader and Grand Crusader. Np
i think tbc classic is rather stale and boring. wrath will give me achievement points wich gives me something to do outside of raid logging and enjoy the expansion in it's whole. Wrath is also at least for me when i really got into the game and every time i think about reliving it it's giving me goosebumps and think about all the awesome memories i had, wich is indeed me being biased into wrath but numbers showed in the active subs when it launched in 2008 that it was genuinely the best time for world of warcraft.
the sad thing about wrath having content cut was how extra much time they had to do it. Sunwell in TBC was only released because wrath wasn't done it yet. And TOC was not supposed to be a raid but ICC wasn't done yet. Look at the lack of content in general since wrath. fukin activsion.
I feel like I would have preferred one big gundrak style raid instead of a bunch of small dragon raids. The dragon stuff should have just been a few small quest chains, heck even just mini dungeons.
I was in WOLK closed beta.. We had flying combat in wintergrasp for a while.. It sucked trying to use its cannon was murder...
ninja looting was part of the fun X( earnign that gear with the rolls was thrilling!!! i remeber when i won the obsidian lair mount 25 man with 100 roll after 24 others rolled and i was the leader and we wiped as fuck as a pug i remade the group several times then downed it 3 drakes up and i fucking won the mount! it was like a huge fucking feeling of acomplishment!
i saw the azul nerub place and i just thought "If blizzard cuts entire zones because they think its a bad plan" How many tiers of raids have they cut and rather put in argent dawn, Pet battles Etc have they put in in stead of tier raids. Worrying.
Yeah, I remember when my DK was the top DK leveler at the launch of WotLK and I saw this place. I swore we were getting a Troll raid for the longest time.
Biggest. Letdown. EVER!
Anub' Arak deserved a raid of his own aswell as Azjob Nerub because of its amazing visuals. Don't count TotC
omg, malygos raid was the worst. Not because the raid was poorly done or the phase three was bad, but because phase three was sooooooooo hard to get people to think in three dimensions. I got our guild around it by making people use macros to follow me, but trying to get everyone to coordinate in 3d on their own was the worst.
I would have loved to see a gundrak raid or azul nerub raid instead of the crusader trials, lol. I just thought that was a lazy raid and dungeon myself. And nerubians as a playable race, still hoping for that.
Had a few pronunciation issues in recent videos, maybe a little bit of looking into the pronunciations ahead of time?
Great video either way, just for posterity it would be good to be sure. Either way a minor gripe.
Ohh for the love of god please, please say NERUBIANS. It bothers me more than it should .....
Yeah, cutting stupid stuff like the dance stuff is a good idea...now if only they'd scrapped fuckin pokemon for real content.
I loved Oculus too Bellular. I still don't know why people hated it. I got my drake mount from there in WoTLK too :)
3:15
nerubians were not in the service of the old gods, i thought?
iirc during the war of the spider the nerubians dug really deep and fucked themselves because they unleashed faceless ones and accidentally started a two front war
What about Mal'ganis? i read somewhere that he was going to be an important part in ICC becasuse some scarlet crusaders things but it was cut ... do you know something about it?
Wasn't there two dungeons in Gun'Drak? Forgot the names but one was near the Grizzly Hills entrance and the other was in the North Eastern corner of the zone.
Why do you keep pronouncing it "NIGHrubians"? Where are you getting that Y sound from? -_-
I don't like your video in video thing you got going here. It distracts me from the actual content of the video. Otherwise great video, informative and such.
I disagree about the dance studio. I stopped playing in Cata, but I think I lost my love when the dance studio was never delivered.
JUST checked my box, and it really does say mention the aerial dogfights! WTF?!
what made you decide to show your face in your newer videos? it's alittle annoying to see your clips now and constantly see your face in the bottom left corner:/ big fan of your content tho :)
Trial of Crusade was the raid where we faced Anub'Arak not Trial of Champion that one was dungenon.
You do know it's Geography and not Geometry right?
No. It's geometry.
I don't think you being in the corner of the video adds anything good to your video. It just distracts from the footage because we have the need to focus an other peoples eyes, so we have to suppress the urge to look into the lower left corner.
I read a rumor after wrath was out that sunwell was originally going to be in wrath but because they ended up feeling they had released black temple too soon they moved sunwell to tbc.