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- Today we are breaking down Rage Form! There is a ton of symbolism in this form and it is awesome!! This is one of my favorite forms!
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*Fun fact:* Neither Anti nor Rage form cast a shadow. Pretty neat, huh?
WHAT THE HECK?!
*Funnier fact:* While I already knew about Anti's shadow, it took me watching both this and the showcase video to find out about Rage's.
So we both learned this today.
Oh really? XD Well that's awesome that you noticed that!
*Funniest fact:* I don't have anything to say here, I just wanted to complete the conjugation.
Didvax i didn't even knew these games had shadows
Soon Sora will be able to do the Mega Destructive Dark Ball of Darkness and Destruction .
And Knuckles
But that attack never works
@@cheslap it worked on aqua.
But it was just a prank
It did on Aqua.
She must have been an idiot to get hit by it
Other thing, Rage Form is canon, since in the final battle Xehanort force Sora to enter in this form.
Yup! Anti form is also canon since there is a mirror in kh2 that talks about him being overcome by darkness!
I really need to do a video talking about Sora’s darkness and the signs from the different games!
@@BioRoxas Also, those crystal's being the hearts of roxas, ventus, and xion is pretty solid since sora can't summon them in this fight, as there hearts have returned
@@BioRoxas oh my god, I need to hit that subscribe botton to stay tuned, I don't want to miss that video.
Jacob Wilson but you can use it in the fights after they’ve been released are we just considering that as in-game nonsense then? Lol I feel like those are fragments of Sora’s heart though, because it hurts him each time, it’s not like a story thing that he felt pain as Roxas left him after all 🤔
@@SSlash that's a good point, so im not sure now lol
It's like a mastered Anti-form.
Exactly or I could say is the complete form of Anti form so Rage Form is more Powerful than Anti Form.
I feel as though it is anti form, Sora just learned how to control it. Honestly think about it? Why was it even a thing in KH2 if going into it had no effects on Sora from a narrative standpoint?
And there is the fact that they two forms seem to be the same in every way save for the obvious differences such as the presence of a keyblade and the mechanics says a lot for me.
Blade Ponds I think it was there to punish those who abuse the Drive Forms.
@@Mr_Triscuit It's a result of his transformation into a heartless in kh1
Anyone know how to make rage form strong
I feel like Rage Form is essentially Sora finally gaining a fair bit of control over Anti-Form and using it to his advantage. It shows how much he's grown, and while he doesn't have full control over himself yet while using it (which explains why he can't use magic, shotlocks or items: he still gets that drive to let loose, it is called Rage Form for a reason), he has enough of a grasp of it to use it to his advantage. He's learning from his past mistakes; while Anti-Form was a mistake of his, caused by abusing his powers too much, Rage Form symbolises how much he's learnt from that, and how darkness can be used for good. Or something. I mean, it's his last-resort, which could show his reluctance to use darkness, but still.
Ansem would be proud.
Sir Yeetus XIV Darkness
Correct. Darkness.
I see you've been to the number 1 channel for dank KH memes
I always felt that Anti-Form wasn't so much "abusing his powers too much" and more a consequence of what Forms ARE.
In KH2, Forms are when Sora basically opens his heart up to allow a friend's heart to join with his - either Donald, Goofy, or both/one of them + a guest character/friend (also, anyone else as happy as I am that they finally added a "guest" character slot...or TWO?!)
Anti-Form, to me, was that when he so opened his heart, sometimes his heart might be too weak from doing this too much (hence the hidden Anti-Form meter in the game which determines when you enter it), causing it to draw in all his friends' hearts as well as ambient darkness, corrupting the Form change for the duration, during which said friends' hearts work to repair him and return them all to normal.
This also explains, to me, why Final Form - which is supposed to indicate mastery of the Form system (and Roxas' remerging/accepting being part of Sora) - takes both party members' hearts into Sora, but ALSO always subtracts 10 from the Anti-Form gauge (making him less likely to go into Anti-Form when using other Form transformations) and NEVER "fails" (e.g. never makes you go Anti-Form.)
The idea is that in Final Form, Sora's heart opens, but Roxas' heart inside of him shields from darkness riding into his heart and corrupting the transformation, AS WELL AS repairing any of the "damage" from other, more imperfect transformations (Valor, Wisdom, and Master Forms) by reducing the Anti gauge.
It's just my personal theory, I guess, since everyone else seems to have interpreted it as "abusing his powers", but I always thought it was more just a consequence of having to open his heart to his friends' hearts for the mergers, which would allow ambient darkness a chance to slip through the opening as well, building until there was enough of it to corrupt the Form change and require purging/healing. Again, with Final Form having Roxas' heart inside of Sora basically acting as a guard and healer to prevent the entry and heal any current damage.
So when Riku transformed into ansem , is it like the same thing like sora”s rage form?
I always felt that Anti-Form wasn't so much "taken over by darkness because of his lust for power" and more a consequence of what Forms ARE. Partly because I don't really see Sora as HAVING a "lust for power", and because...well:
In KH2, Forms are when Sora basically opens his heart up to allow a friend's heart to join with his - either Donald, Goofy, or both/one of them + a guest character/friend (Sidenote: Anyone else as happy as I am that they finally added a "guest" character slot...or TWO?! Been asking for that since KH1!)
Anti-Form, to me, was that when he opened his heart, sometimes his heart might be too weak from doing this too much (hence the hidden Anti-Form meter in the game which determines when you enter it) and/or while it was "open", like a door or a window, some darkness could seep in. With his heart open, causing it to draw in all his friends' hearts as well as ambient darkness, once the darkness has reached enough mass (e.g. the Anti gauge having built up enough), the darkness is sufficient to act, corrupting the Form change for the duration, during which Sora friends' hearts work to repair him and return them all to normal - which is why it takes two of them/all party members. (Granted, this is me inserting my own view of hearts, saying that the hearts are kind of "acting on instinct" to repair Sora, but seriously - where ARE his friends during the transformations if not merged within his heart?)
This also explains, to me, why Final Form - which is supposed to indicate mastery of the Form system via Roxas' remerging/accepting being part of Sora - takes both party members' hearts into Sora, but ALSO always subtracts 10 from the Anti-Form gauge (making him less likely to go into Anti-Form when using other Form transformations) and NEVER "fails" (e.g. never makes you go Anti-Form.)
The idea is that in Final Form, Sora's heart opens, but Roxas' heart inside of him shields from darkness slipping through the opening into his heart and corrupting the transformation, AS WELL AS repairing any of the "damage" from other, more imperfect transformations (Valor, Wisdom, and Master Forms) by reducing the Anti gauge.
It's just my personal theory, I guess, since everyone else seems to have interpreted it as "abusing his powers", "lust for power", etc, but I always thought it was more just a consequence of having to open his heart to his friends' hearts for the mergers, which would allow ambient darkness a chance to slip through the opening as well, building until there was enough of it to corrupt the Form change and require purging/healing while TEMPORARILY awakening the dormant Heartless (from KH1) born of the natural darkness in Sora's heart, which is then under Sora's loose control as he acts more on instinct, but still fights his enemies. Again, with Final Form having Roxas' heart inside of Sora basically acting as a guard and healer to prevent the entry and heal any current damage.
Basically: Sora is unique in the series for having the most open and welcoming heart (and no less than 2 and as many as 3 people riding around inside of it at any given time), but Anti-Form was what happens when darkness floods through the opening, Final Form when Roxas was acting as a bouncer keeping it out, and Rage Form is, instead, Sora taking the darkness and semi-mastering it, channeling that inner Heartless while still maintaining his own heart (as symbolized by him still wielding the Keyblade), overcoming its power instead of being overcome by it, and using it to do good.
Bro this theory is awesome as fuck and I love it
Makes sense to me
This theory would also explain why Anti-form is more likely to occur when fighting Org members, as well as why you will never trigger Anti Form if you use a Drive outside of combat, as there would be more ambient darkness around the Org since they have hostile intent (as opposed to Heartless which attack more-or-less indiscriminately), and an absence of enemies would result in less chance of the transformation being interferef with.
@@thrasher698 Thank you guys for the positive reaction! It was always just a pet theory of mine. And I had forgotten I even made this post until seeing this reply in my feed. : )
This theory is so good, it's one of the best things i've ever read it, thank you so much for sharing this with us
Ansem: Use the darkness Sora
Sora: No...
Ansem: Pretty please ?
Sora: Sure
...
Riku: Hey, that's my line !
Hey that's Just a pancake reference
Seeing him transform without the animation is pretty awesome.
Right? I thought it was cool how the darkness kind of slides down Sora as he transforms!
@@BioRoxas and also that glass ball breaking affect around him brings so many memories...
*not all of them are good, however*
I'm not gonna like your comment for it to stay at 123
@@fink_rat AYO?!
@@yoimiyamain8493 that was the same animation for KH2 drive forms (including anti). Sometimes I got screwed over by Anti form and lost progress
Basically, it’s the form that tells everyone that Sora needs therapy.
Don Solo *_HE NEEDS THERAPY_*
Hurting is caring
Amazing that the entire series is that Darkness is suffering, negativity, and cuases people to turn evil but no one thinks to ask Sora, "hey buddy, why are you channeling darkness?"
Dance Soar Vim because protagonist needs ways to symbolize their mental state after years of fighting this bitchass bald guy.
After what happened in KH1, KH2, D3, and KH3. Yeah, he needs therapy.
Kind of a VERY late theory but I think the reason you cannot use items, magic, or shotlocks (in story) is because Rage form Sora only wants to attack and defend. Like stated, Rage form is Sora's last resort, his darkness resonated with his will to stay alive and fight. So everything he does in that form is about fighting. Since magic and items require knowledge to use and shotlocks require focus, a being that only know that he needs to fight and survive does not need to use those if his raw strength is enough to do what he knows.
Honestly, i think Rage Form is as the name says, Rage
Sora enters in that form, using the darkness (in this case RAGE) to unleash RAGE or the darkness inside him
Maybe rage generated by the frustration he might have by easily being taken by Xehanort, failing his exam. Being powerless to save everyone, powerless to save The BbS Trio alongside the 358 trio. Anger of always losing his friends. And many more things that can also associate with games before DDD.
It's a mini theory i have. And with the Riskcharges, he may submerge more into darkness/rage, by sharing the rage Roxas, Xion and Ventus might have
It sounds stupid i know but idk xd
That’s not stupid!
I can definitely see that. Especially because we do see sora getting frustrated at his powerlessness a couple times in KH3.
Not to mention, the last battle with Xehanort theme in KH3 is a remix of Rage Awakened, and Sora has to use Rage Form in that battle.
And Terra also failed the mark of mastery exam because of Xehanort, now that you mention it...
And then about how all that affects kairi
"Sharing the rage Roxas, Xion and Ventus might have"
"You should share some of that anger with Sora."
-Ansem the Wise to Roxas KH 2
It all makes sense now...
Now when will Anti/Rage form be mentioned by the other character's. They've seen him do it multiple times, but they never say anything. There should be a conversation atleast about it.
There really should be. Especially because his party members don’t disappear when he goes into rage form so they can see his darkness xD
I would like at least a reaction from the party members every once in a while especially the ones who just met sora i mean they just met him have seen for themselves and heard from the "experts" that these enemys are darkness and that darkness is bad then boom sora seemingly becomes one and they just keep trusting him
@@delinkwent7375 I know right.
That would be a really cool thing to see if in game you went automatically rage form and the party members see this and ask why and how it happens, showing some concern
@@taffmeister584 Goofy: Sora. why did you turn into that heartless-lookin' form back there?
Sora: Because if I channel the darkness I heal myself completely as a last resort.
Donald: Really? Lemme try! * Turns to Anti Donald* * heals all enemies more than Sora and Goofy.*
Sora and Goofy: gee thanks.
When Xehanort forces Sora into Rage Form, Sora's clothes in Rage Form have a slight hue, the colour of which depends on the form you were in before.
I kinda figured that the name alone would signify that Rage Form is a direct result of Sora's anger. And him turning into a dark silhouette is the darkness in his heart being manifested by said anger (since anger is associated with darkness in this series).
Also, when Xehanort forces Sora into Rage Form in the final boss, I like to think of it as Xehanort feeding off of Sora's rage and anguish from having Kairi struck down.
They should’ve brought back the “Two Become One” keyblade so that we can activate Rage Form easier w/o killing ourselves off. Or they could’ve created a special keyblade with Rage Form as the Form Change.
Ya I would've liked a way to trigger this outside of almost dying.
Bio-Roxas Big mood.
rage form too OP thats why
Horace T they could make the timer shorter for it when personally activated, something...
might be the upcoming dlc keyblade. would be pretty cool
We need a Darkness keyblade that form changes to a variation of Rage Form. It doesn't have the full heal or risk charge mechanics, but it does have shotlocks and dark versions of spells. Dark Fire is the same homing split fire we all know, Dark Blizzard is a super short range front facing icy pulse that does heavy damage and has a very high freeze chance (Old Xehanort icing Ven was my inspiration for this), Dark Thunder discharges a slow moving orb that releases an AoE DOT electricity bubble, Dark Water erupts around Sora in a geyser of poison, Dark Aero creates a vacuum around Sora to pull in enemies before slicing them with a radial wind blade attack, Dark Cure heals only 25% as its equivalent normal Cure but also makes physical attacks siphon health while MP is recharging after using it. The unmaxed shotlock would just be a flurry of sequential teleporting back slashes for every target, the maxed shotlock would be Dark Splicer.
Something i would like for the eventual Final Mix DLC(We all know is going to happen), it's that we get the Keyblades of the other guardians of like, and for Riku they could do this, we get the dark versions of the spells on the formchange, we get dark aura as a finisher for that Keyblades formchange, and as a shotlock max Dark Splicer... Tell me that doesn't sound cool, using Braveheart and doing this moves :D
These are great ideas for magic!! Each is pretty unique and I love the idea of siphoning hp during mp charge.
great idea. life steal is broken tho.
@@zstryde501
Only if you're doing damage. The very minor heal you get from the proposed Dark Cure would still leave you well in the danger zone even at Dark Curaga and you only heal more by hitting the enemy, a dangerous prospect in some fights. To top it off the siphoning only lasts for the duration of your MP Regeneration so MP Hastes, orbs, and ethers would actually be detrimental for Dark Cure.
Oblivion would go great with rage form
RAGE FORM HEALS YOU?!
I’ve been healing before entering the form for the entirety of my playthrough lmao
XD oh no haha
Its the deus ex machina of kingdom hearts
I like to wait until Donald gets his MP back, then I spam that triangle until I hit stage three and Donald's like "what damage?"
@@Junkyardproduxtions
Same tbh. Makes the form MUCH stronger, and thanks to Donald breaking the meme.
1:00
Yup Donald dead
... *Likes video*
0:22 'The name of the form's name...'
Speech level: 100
Lol
I like to think of Rage Form as a perfected Anti Form. As Sora has grown as a person in the time since KH2, he's learned to make the best of Anti Form to be able to wield a keyblade and call upon the form at will for dire situations. If you've seen Endgame, it's kinda like how Banner made peace with Hulk and now they've become one person who's the best of both worlds.
Rage form is the strongest because he has the n word pass
Ok where did I put that enabled damage control
DuhItzSkeleton RIGHT HERE
*_waves hand_*
Anti-Form, Rage-Form, as a toy Sora’s darkness turns him into LEGO-Form. Don’t believe me, leave a LEGO on the floor and see if stepping on one doesn’t become a critical hit.
Well i wear a lego shoe.
This comment
I always took Anti-Form, while in terms of gameplay a punishment, more of proof that Sora hadn't completely recover from being recompleted, and so when he tried to reach for the power of the hearts inside of him, being overwhealm by darkness, of the suffering those hearts went through. Even if originally we only knew about Roxas, it make sense to me even back then.
While i took Rage Form more of a desperate case, that because of how weak he see's himself, and situations of crisis, he dives willing into the darkness, desperate to keep going... Because we see it through the game that the lesson kind of didn't stick the landing. Because Riku keeps using darkness yet he is like "No darkness is evil so i won't allow anyone on my watch to use darkness". The clear example is how on Frozen(I hate that world for multiple reason but it shows this the most), while Larxene talks about choice, Sora talks like she would fall to darkness, not choose to use the darkness for good like Riku does... I think that he just see's Riku as an exception, but everything else related to darkness is evil... He is still too childish on this aspect, like in a lot of other ones, but sadly this is negative aspect that he needs to grow out of it.
I believe in an interview nomura mentioned that anti form is triggered by sora wanting more power.
By KH3, I think sora and riku know that darkness is not evil but rather the people in them. There’s a cutscene in Kh2 that shows this understanding and I included a bit of it in the video but I probably should have elaborated more!
@@BioRoxas Debatable, it's always show that Riku has a better understanding of Darkness then Sora does, in fact, i took of that as Sora just going along with Riku not really understanding what he was saying on the Realm of Darkness. And some of his reactions to darkness on this game, and words make me believe that he never understood what Riku has been saying... It also goes with his personality the not understanding but going along as to what someone he trust is saying.
@@ultimateshadeofwar OK I believe you.
@Bio-Roxas Some of the first translations of the KH3 Ultimania are out, and we are both wrong.
Anti-Form is Sora losing himself to darkness, Rage Form is Sora losing himself to his rage.
I still think it shows that he has harnessed the darkness! But I’ll have to look into it more ^^
Damn, I never cease to be amazed at the details.
I think Sora gains more power with each risk charge because he's separating the other hearts from his body (visually represented by the crystals floating around him each time he does this) thus becoming more and more "alone."
I like this theory
It checks out. Sora himself says his friends are his power and I don't see any other way for him to generate that much darkness for the finisher
Interesting to note that the dark energy balls that Sora summons for Rage Form's Finish command are actually the same as - or extremely similar to - the balls dropped by the Darkside in 0.2, that fall from the sky and sort of burst with those spines whenever they come into contact with something.
Whoa good eye! :o I never noticed that!
Rage Form Mains: I used the darkness to destroy the darkness
I wish there was a keyblade that could let you use rage form like a normal form change, the keyblade itself could have bad stats/abilities for the sake of balance but it would be worth it to use rage form whenever you want.
Ya I would like that too!
Bio-Roxas maybe the next numbered game or the last KH game has . He is getting a better handle on his Darkness. So maybe the final “ evolution” will be a normal form change on par with Ultimate form or a combination of the two.
Kristin Glenn
The final battle could have him achieve a similar “Yin Yang Bomb” approach to Roxas
This was super useful when I was using reference for these for game animation, thank you so much for making these video breakdowns! =)
Honestly I loved this breakdown! Your end theory makes a whole lot of sense! Very good job! (Also like that you used Rage Awakened)
Thank you ^_^
How could I not use rage awakened? :p such a fitting song name haha
I think Riskcharge is similar to the power of Waking(or whatever move allows the hearts to leave sora's body). Xemnas and Ansem mention that the "only" way to free Roxas is for Sora to give his heart to darkness, and maybe this is what it looks like to do it halfway, for Sora to go so close to darkness he can almost pull out the 3's hearts.
benedict co ohhh 😮 I kinda like this
Wow you covered more in this video then I did for mine's glad I watched it.
I love how they make it that he's actively using his own darkness. when he transforms it he consciously dives into the darkness
The spikey dark balls that show up in the finisher are the same ones that fall from the sky in the Enchanted Dominion area of Dark World from 0.2, when Aqua was fighting all those Darksides. It's a neat callback to Sora's shadow from his first dive to the heart being a Darkside itself, and how the data version of his heartless could turn into a Darkside. It represents Sora literally channeling his dark side!
Ya that was a really nice touch!
You using my boy's theme while describing Rage Form? You, sir, have won a sub. Also Rage form reminds me ALOT of Terra's Dark Impulse command style. Mostly in the way they both whip themselves around while swinging their Keyblades.
With you saying that Rage form is more of Sora channeling the darkness as a last resort, I feel like that too but also the fact that it also represents Sora’s rage in a battle due to about to lose. Makes sense right? Other than that thanks for the analysis! It sheds light on how it works and also show just how he’s attacking
I can’t be the only in that find Rage Form to be very similar to Black Spider-Man, or Symbiote, in general like Venom and Carnage?
Love the video and I really liked the theory of the three hearts inside Sora, it actually gave me a new perspective view of Rage Form since I didn’t like it much before, but now it makes more sense and I think I’m gonna try to use it more often.
Also, I like how you’ve added Rage Awakened OST in the background since the video is about Rage Form xD
I'm glad it gave you a new perspective on Rage Form c:
Something he didnt mention. Your invincible for a moment when you risk charge. Its useful for escaping combos from endgame bosses and forcing your way into an opening. It also MAY reset your combo count against the enemy as it has a knockback effect.
Long story short: Rage Form is badass and we all should be grateful we have it 😂
Btw.....probably not the best form for critical mode 😓
Actually its saved my butt a few times
It deals massiv damage in lv1 cm so its really useful xD
A lotta damage, but since everythig kills you in 3 hits, better dont use the triangle command until theres only one left
@@isrockcarmona6837 im currently doing a critical lvl 1 run and rage form is one of the best option you have in every situation.
@@benjamin7746 it can be, only if you know that it Will kill every thing, the power is awesome, but riskcharge makes you get in even mor danger than the one you were to get rage form
Great vid, man. Very interesting theory. It actually makes sense.
Thanks ^_^
I Nvr thought about the form that way 👍😁👍 I am looking forward for more of ur vids
Glad I showed you something new c:
This form is awesome due to it being unique and a better ver. of Anti form and more fun to use
Ya for sure! c: Anti was so hard to actually stay alive in!
I've only entered rage form once and it was on accident during the titan battle in Olympus. It was really cool
I like to think of Riskcharge as more of Sora using parts of his own Heart to power up the darkness inside him. No idea why.
Also I think Rage Form is less of Sora channeling new darkness to save himself, but rather him taking control of Anti Form, hence the exact symbols while he's in his KH2 outfit.
I think an interview stated that rage form was sorry channeling the darkness through rage? I can't remember.
0:07 That was an awesome transition
Great analysis!
Using Rage Awakened in the background was genius
This form seems like a nod to the Dark Knight class in Final Fantasy.
Oh really? I haven’t played a ton of FF so I’m not familiar with that class. How are they similar?
@@BioRoxas Depending on the game, they have an ability called Darkness or Soul Eater (Which Riku's old sword was possibly named for) that can sacrifice HP to enhance attacks or do an AoE attack.
Whaaaaat? That’s awesome!!
@@BioRoxas Yep, it's a lot of fun. If you wish to get a good feel for that job, try Final Fantasy IV!
Cecil specifically has Dark Wave which the finisher acts a lot like, where you sacrifice health to hit a group of enemies (it was a really strong move in FF4 too)
You might have forgotten some things, but I can't confirm. I just remember this.
When I went into Rage Form, and then used Flare Force while in the form, I remember getting kicked out of Rage Form.
Ya that is something I forgot to mention! Any situation commands that you use while in rage form will take you out of the form
Maybe the reason shot locks, Magic, and links aren’t available in this form are because Sora isn’t (canonically, we all know we’ve puposely triggered a few times and we all know how to use it) experienced with this form. Like, since he rarely has occasion to use it, he doesn’t know exactly how to channel the darkness in different ways.
I'm sorry, but I'm still a scrub at KH2 Anti Form, I literally didn't know there were ANY combo modifiers until I saw a video where someone got the form during the Demyx fight, and started spamming the combo where you just start with X and then mash square.
Interesting to note that the final limit looking move summons dark orbs that look just like the ones the darkside horde caused to fall out of the sky against Aqua.
Ya that’s really interesting! We do see Sora’s darkness symbolized as one of those giant heartless in Kh1
I feel like Sora is THIS close to becoming a Darkling, now.... as the light within him has grown stronger, the darkness in him has grown deeper.
Thanks I'm playing that game and I'm not that far so you a got a new subscriber!
Great :) I’ve done a breakdown for every single formchange in the game!
It’s so satisfying to finish a boss with rage form.
The finisher for this form reminds me of the dark spikes that the Darkside from 0.2 rains down.
I would’ve thought everything you said was facts lol nice vid
Even after time past, i like the more "Crazy" for from KH2 a little bit more.
Bravo another banger
5:00 this honestly looks likes blood splashing out of the floor when the keyblade hits. The orbs that appear also seem to splash blood around. And then there’s like this pool of blood covering everything. Idk how I didn’t noticed before, what is that though? It can’t really be blood right
Very nice video!
Thanks c:
KH2: Godanmit, i got Anti Form
KH3: Thank god i got Anti Form
Also, a little theory of Anti/Rage Form
In KH2, the drive forms always brought more power from Sora's heart, but the more he used, the higher the chance from the darkness inside it was to come out, giving you the Anti Form, which is a source of strenght that Sora was never able to fully control.
Now in KH3, it comes out as a reponse to a dangerous situation, meaning that the darkness will come out and help Sora when he is in danger of death, but since Sora trained a lot from KH2 to 3, he is now able to keep his keyblade in this form.
Interesting theory! ^^ he definitely is becoming more in control of his darkness I think!
I like to imagine that Anti-Form and Rage Form have something to do with the Shadow Sora Riku created in Neverland in kh1. I don't know how that connection could possibly work- But, well, I dunno how Riku created him. Maybe he actually *is* Sora's shadow, Peter Pan style, flooded with Darkness. And then when he got defeated, he went back into Sora somehow- so he has like...a distinct compartmentalized pocket of dark power inside him somewhere, like how he had Roxas, Xion, and Ven's hearts for so long- But since the Shadow Sora is pure darkness it's not a unique heart that can be released like those other three. It's just like...a little well of free dark power he can tap into when things get desperate without corrupting his own heart.
Rage form is so cool looking!!!
According to the wiki, you do gain +5 strength and +3 form seconds per Riskcharge, and the combo finisher's damage multiplier increases by 0.2 per Riskcharge, starting with a multiplier of 1.0, and having one of 1.6 at max Riskcharges.
The uppercut attack that can spawn pillars with Riskcharges does two hits with a power multiplier of 0.6, with each pillar basically just adding another hit with the same values as a single base hit (same power multiplier of 0.6, adding the same Form Value of 6, dealing 1 Reaction Value, and adding 0.5 Revenge Value).
Assuming that each pillar can do their own hit on a single target, it's basically doing double and a half damage.
Depending on what keyblade you currently have equipped, depends on what keyblade sora will use in rage form. Found this out when I used rage form with ultima weapon and the ultima weapon was the same color as sora in rage form.
He switching between Keyblade and hand in the combo reminds me of Terra's Dark Impulse
Anyone else notice rage forms finisher summons 7 balls of darkness? Reverse final form finisher ? They both look similar 🤔
What I find fascinating is that darkness users are able to warp instantly from one place to another and attack at insanely fast speeds just like how sora uses his rage form. Does one have to be a user of darkness to be able to use these insane DBZ like movements? The abilities light and dark users feel akin to the light and dark side of the force in Star Wars. Was nomura always using star wars as the driving force for kingdom hearts before Disney bought the star wars rights?
A lot of stuff in KH2 and in BbS comes across as Star Wars homage, so it would not be too surprising!
Ok that theory regarding the three crystals hits hard. I never even considered that possibility. I think what hits even harder is that even after Roxas Ven and Xion regain their forms and identities Sora still summoning the crystals means ue still remembers their pain
You forgot to mention you can use other commands in rage form (Duck Flare,Donald Meteor, Goodys Bombardment,etc)
The 3 riskcharge may resemble the 3 hearts sleeping within him. Ventus, Roxad, and Xion.
Which may explain why in the final fight against xehanort, you cannot activate riskcharge when he takes your light away.
I'm late but something else I noticed is that when riskcharging, as long as you have one charge, you gain increased knockback with your combos. I riskcharged when I got hit with an attack that interrupted my combo and before charging I couldn't stagger larger heartless, but after charging I was able to interrupt everybody around me. By three charges my combos were literally too strong to interrupt unless they got a cheap shot on me.
tl;dr, I think riskcharging grants increased knockback and superarmor but thats just what I've observed from using this form.
When Rage Form Sora holds his Keyblade like how Ventus does on one of the attacks, the attack actually looks like Ventus' first finish command animation from BBS; slashing back and forth before doing a spinning slash.
Does it really? I’ll have to check that out!
@@BioRoxas Yeah, it seems like a stretch but the attack looks almost identical. 😅
7:37 Furthermore on the idea that those three crystals are representative of Ventus, Roxas, and Xion. Notice that every time Riskcharge is used, a red orb emerges from Sora before shattering into one of those crystals to revolve around him. Various times in Kingdom Hearts we get to see "hearts" leaving and returning from and to a body, appearing as orbs of light. The red orbs that emerge could easily be a visualization of the hearts of those three, by this theory.
Holy crap that's deep!
I accidentally popped Rage Form when playing the demo. Now I love that this form exists. The design’s metal, and the combos are hella nice.
in the end, every heart returns to darkness. Anti sora needs to be explained at this point...
I’m working on putting all the little hints to sora darkness together! I think his darkness will always be something never really talked about but shown in the background
I just noticed that Sora is doing the Naruto run while in Rage Form
Okie dokie, lemme just say good video of course lol, but did you not notice how it makes the same noise when the Lich takes the heart out of Riku as the same noise as when using riskcharge? I mean yes it’s not important to the form itself gameplay wise but I thought I’d point it out, and yes I can confirm each riskcharge does increase damage probably by about 10% or something, maybe more. Speaking of shotlocks I just thought of one that would be cool for rage form alone, what if you had to lock on to your teammates and you could take their health away and give it back to you? Probably would be OP to have a health syphon like that in this form tho but I wish it had one at all, same goes for dark magic, we know dark firaga and some dark blizzaga exists so, it would’ve been cool but probably too strong once again.
I had my sound off when I was getting that footage :< Good catch!!
Do you have footage of it? I know the first and last attack do more damage but when I was fighting the battle gate in the Keyblade Graveyard I didn't seem to do more damage when I riskcharged.
Bio-Roxas hmm maybe it’s only the third level that increases the base damage for all attacks but it definitely isn’t just the finishers at that point, maybe it’s just the attacks that get the benefits like the starting attack with the dark puddles and the finishers then, I’d need to look into it some more but I really felt sure each one is just a damage buff, I guess testing the counter would be the way to find out for sure 🤔
I’ll definitely be testing more with it! Such an intricate form c: I love it!
does that shotlock change at all when in rageform?
LPFan yeah you don’t get any shotlock at all in rageform
I know this is really late, but I never really thought that the designs on rage for looked like flames, but more like the mist or tentacles of darkness that are usually produced by sora in this for (or the finisher in the fight against xehanort when he is stripped of light)
Ooh yeah I can see that
While in rage form you can immediately revert if you have an attraction or team attack
Anti-form/Rage form is connected to the time when sora became a heartless.
rw:@6:18 the heartless boss kinda reminds me of GREYMON from DIGIMON.
Anti-Form / Anti-Sora sounds cooler imo
So essentially Rage Form is Sora feeling their pain, from what he learned in Re:Coded. wow
Additionally, it's the pain that Roxas felt that he gave to Sora in DDD.
My personal theory for antiform and rage form Is as a result of sora turning Into a heartless and regaining his body from being a heartless without need for roxas to perish meaning sora would technically still be a heartless and that both forms are him turning back Into a heartless but retaining his human body and at first with antiform It was the darkness consuming him but rage form Is him harnessing the darkness and using It to his advantage
Here's a bit of a back story with this dark form. Now, I've heard that this was gained after Sora stabs himself in the chest to free Kairi's heart which caused him to turn into a Heartless and then regained his human form thanks to Kairi. I figured that this dark form had something to do with that scene, and I was right. Now, in Kingdom Hearts 2, Anti Form was a bit uncontrollable, like this was caused when using too many Drive Forms. In this game, he seems to gain more control over this form, like in 2, he runs on all fours, while in this, he runs on his two legs. In 2, he attacks by fists, while in this game, he attacks using the current keyblade he's still equipped with. and I've heard that this is active by anger, which explains why this is activeable when running low on health, as well as feeling the pain and loneliness of Roxas, Ventus and Xion. That's actually quite an interesting thing you pointed out. I do have a theory about why he was able to have more control over this form. This may have something to do with this part in Dream Drop Distance where the Organisation had put him to supposedly permanent sleep, which caused him to fall into darkness there. Then when Riku manage to wake him up, he's gain enough strength over the darkness, and as a result, more control over this dark form. Also, I've noticed that you seem to realise who the 3 hearts inside Sora's were, not many people realised who the third heart was and I already figured that it was Xion. There's a lot of evidence for this, including in Dream Drop Distance.
Favourite form. Downside is you have to be pretty much dead.
Maybe it's shrouded in darkness because recharges are part of soras heart which is why he takes literal damage for breaking them off to fight with
Don't get me wrong, rage mode is cool.
But anti form will always be in my heart, despite being a double edged sword
By Nomura's own words; Rage Form is just Sora being really, *really* pissed off.
Risk Charge also stuns when you use it. I use it during the inferno battle to extend combos
Right I forgot to include that >.> thanks!
The head cannon I came up with for Rage Form and the drive forms is they each use a different source of power. For Valor Form Sora merges with Goofy who is a defender type character armed with a shield to boost his physical abilities as well as deactivating magic ability to strengthen his physical abilities even further like shutting off one of the 5 senses to sharpen the others, the rise in the anti-meter is caused by the physical exhaustion that comes from using the form. For Wisdom Form Sora merges with Donald and shuts down his physical abilities to focus on using magic, the rise in the anti-meter is due to mental exhaustion caused by the form. Limit Form is used by drawing out the power within Roxas to boost both physical and magic power but not to the extent of Valor or Wisdom Form but more like being able of fight at 100% constantly but the physical and mental strain caused isn’t as extreme as with Valor or Wisdom Form. Master Form is combines both Valor and Wisdom Form together by merging with both companions in the party fighting with both the physical strength of Valor Form and the magic ability of Wisdom Form at the cost of greater amounts of exhaustion. Anti Form is caused by the exhaustion and dark emotions built up over the course of Sora’s journey, the fear from constant adversaries that keep getting stronger or the pressure caused when fighting powerful opponents like the Organization members, the growing feeling of hopelessness due to his missing friends, and the fear of losing the friends fighting with him, the feelings of exhaustion caused by pushing his limits by using the drive forms, and the desire for more power when activating drive forms draws out the darkness within his heart and consumes his friends within himself in order to keep them safe however because Sora believes darkness to be evil he rejects the form splitting his focus on trying to repel the opponent before him and escaping the form noted by the form having low attack power but high speed it is focusing on escaping instead of fighting and it is also the reason why Sora can deactivate the form when not in combat since he can put all of his attention on deactivating the form the loss in defense is due to Sora’s constitution being unstable while in the form because the darkness that is fueling his body is being rejected the drop in the anti-meter is due to the darkness being being drained and the negative emotions being let out. Final Form is achieved in a different way: whenever Sora uses a drive form he feels a faint flicker within himself and every time he uses a drive form he reaches for that small feeling within but he can’t reach it on his own but with the help of his friends he was able to just reach it, and when he does a torrent seemingly endless amounts of power is unleashed activating Final Form unlike the other drive forms Final Form doesn’t leave Sora exhausted after using the form and that gives Sora the confidence he needed, after using the form Sora is reassured, with the help of his friends he can achieve a power far beyond anything he has ever felt before it gives him the hope that as long as he and his friends stand together everything will be okay. Rage Form is the controlled version of Anti Form after learning that darkness isn’t evil and accepting it he now willingly uses the form by using the fear/panic caused when he is low on health to provide a second wind both healing him entirely and providing him with more power Risk Charge is used by drawing upon the feelings of loneliness from Ventus, Roxas, and Xion in a random order, using this technique weakens Sora’s willpower by draining his hope but strengthens the darkness that fuels Rage Form, the reason why Sora can still use Risk Charge even after the three are freed from his heart is because even though they aren’t in his heart anymore the feelings of loneliness he had drawn out by using Risk Charge have now become a part of Sora because he had to experience those feelings in order to fuel the darkness
It sounds to me like it still draws from the same spring as Anti Forme, but with Sora now being aware that this darkness is in him, he can control it rather than being overwhelmed by it. The name also would imply that he is also drawing from, well, RAGE: not just the immediate anger of being hurt, but the compounding frustration of “not being good enough”, “nothing without friends”, or just plain tired of this conflict. We’ve seen at several points that Sora is hurting more than he lets on. Here, it’s all let out
Theory here, maybe each time he uses the charge move, due to there being three different stages of it, is him going further into those 3s separate pain of being alone, manifesting them into a physical state that, while it hurts him, causes the darkness to grow and become stronger
5:52 Also...so if riskcharge does more damage based on the pillars and tentacle ball....doesnt that mean it is stronger than regular rage form? Kinda weird to say it doesnt do more damage but yet...it does.
I do like it too within oblivion also
Maybe its like how Dark Arts of Dark Knight jobs work in FF 14 they use their Rage to Ignite their Aether/Mana to gain the Power of Darkness and yes thats as Dangerous as its sounds or Sora can use Dynamis the counterpart to Aether in FF14 Lore
The first time I triggered Rage form, I didn’t know what was going on and why I could suddenly spam teleport everywhere. It freaked me out pretty bad.
The first attack in 1:44 mark looks like that one attack Terra did in "Command Style: Dark Impulse".
Also this may just be me but it feels like Rage form uses other wielders moves but adjusted: Like Terra's Dark Impulse attack, Ventus for the mid-air attack(the one where Bio-Roxas metion Sora wielding the keyblade backwards), and dark barrier repressenting Riku or Aqua. Just a "food for thought".
Also; Is it just me or is some of those attacks look similar to Anti-Forms attacks?
Personally I find it Kool there was differences on anti and rage form. I first thought of the form have something to do with darkness (quiteobviously.) But what had me the most, anti doesn't have party members as support ( Rage form however does.) Sure rage have a keyblade but I actually think that Sora could easy taped into this form by either desperation or by choice . Wen taking a risk 😂 you'll see Crystal's or I believe are 💓 of Roxas, Ventus and Sixon . I personally think that's the reason why Sora can use a key in this form .. just maybe it a way to assist Sora wen he'd in a tough spot