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Actually I was able to trigger rage form in that battle before I was forced in it
Hey, I just rewatched the KHX back cover and noticed the leg logo on the master's chair along with more of the other logos on it too, and it's very detailed it's more noticeable in "case of gula" segment.
Even the amount of strikes you hit Xehanort during the “Return to the Light” command is seven...
Oh crap I meant to count those xD That's really interesting!
@@BioRoxas time for Rageform++ True Remix
AGuyWithGames I checked that too when I was watching this I thought he was even about to point it out lol
Dark Aura does the same number of strikes 7
I love the symbolism behind the Return to the Light command and what follows afterwards. Xehanort used his immense power to rob Sora of the light and force him to embrace darkness to fight back. Once Sora gets the upper hand, he strikes back and returns to his normal self. Xehanort, however ends up even stronger, taken on an appearance similar to Rage Form. Seeing as Sora's inner light shines so bright, the shadows he casts are immense, which is why his inner darkness is so powerful. By forcing that darkness out of Sora and getting him to use it on him, Xehanort was able to add Sora's darkness to his own, making him even more powerful. That's how I saw it anyway.
Here's a simpler way to put it:
Xehanort either thought Sora would be powerless without Lux, or that Sora would fail miserably at channeling his inner darkness, like Terra. Either way, he made two fatal mistakes:
1. Sora may be as stupid as Terra, but he is nowhere near as emotionally unstable as Terra was back then.
2. Sora may not have a PhD in Keyblade science, but he's still a master swordsman with enough skill and experience to wreck most opponents. (Seriously, what was Yen Sid thinking?)
I have a theory of my own, and it may be utterly unique, because I never see anyone talk about this.
Sora was a heartless for the later part of KH1, and the whole of Castle Oblivion, Days, and the seven days Roxas was being artificially combined with him. My evidence is simple: Sora becomes a shadow when he releases Kairi's heart.
Back then, his light shined brightly, and his darkness was near nonexistent. He retained a sort of instinctual recognition of Kairi, and sought her out. He knew it was her, and she knew his heart on sight. She somehow turned the darkness back into a Sora shape, with Sora's memories and power intact. This has consequences for Roxas, who is born without memory or power.
The natural method to recreate a person is to destroy Heartless and Nobody. Sora's Heartless was not destroyed. Roxas was not destroyed. And yet Sora lives. Somehow.
So now, Sora's Heartless delves to the deepest, blackest darkness. He knows with 100% certainty despite not having heard of a Kingdom Hearts before that day, that Kingdom Hearts is light. He knows this as sure as breathing, as if it is instinct. More evidence.
Ansem the Seeker is defeated for now, and Sora's Heartless makes his way to Castle Oblivion. And in Castle Oblivion, Sora is tormented, physically attacked, berated, abused, gaslit. Org 13 wants him broken mentally, and they fill his heart with pain, anger, sadness, betrayal, and darkness. And Namine, attempting to fix what she broke, shattered the connecting chain of those memories, hiding them away forever, in the dark. And that darkness festered. Sora is put into the pod for a year, and his heartless feeds on these broken links of memory, growing in power.
Roxas suffers. He suffers greatly. Xion suffers too. Xion is consumed by Roxas. Roxas is consumed by Sora. More darkness added to the pile.
Sora is introduced to Drive Forms, a temporary measure to boost his power in times of need, and it is through form changes that his Heartless breaks free into the real world.
The only time this is addressed is in a text bubble from a mirror that vaguely hints about losing control and darkness overtaking Sora. There is never a cutscene, or a mention, not even by Riku, who could probably smell the darkness.
And then something happens to the darkness when Sora is partially norted in 3Ds. Sora's Heartless reappears in KH3, and this time, it comes out swinging a goddamn keyblade. And the only time this is addressed is when Xehanort drains Sora's light, and unleashes the beast. Did he do it on purpose, because he knew what would come out? Or was he caught unawares, and beaten like a drum by a Heartless he could not control?
We don't know, because feckin nobody addresses this angry clawing teleporting thing that shreds bad guys like a living nutrabullet.
Sora's Heartless is just going to keep getting stronger. And nobody is talking about this.
@@Xahnel Very interesting. So, are you saying that Sora's been a human Heartless like Ansem Seeker of Darkness this whole time, or are you basing all of this off of the dialogue in Coded where Data Riku tells Data Sora that Sora's Heartless has basically been with him every step of the way on his journey ever since he used the Keyblade of Heart on himself in Hollow Bastion?
@@Xahnel Saving this in case it gets addressed later in the series
Rage Form in my opinion is the best form in the game, it represents how much Sora controls the Darkness and learned to share the pain with the Hearts connected to him.
Maybe I just like this form because its edgy :/
Well, when you put it like that...
It's also a representation of his repressed frustration along with him channeling the rage from Ventus, Xion, and Roxas
Just think of it this way: Sora embraced the edge and became more powerful for it. You might as well embrace it, too. lol
No offense, but in the final battle I think they gave more representation of Sora's pain and anger because Xehanort just killed Kairi in front of him, one of the people Sora loved the most (and then the previous scenes where he saw Kairi die , his friends in front of him and let's not talk about the previous events in KH, they would leave more than one with problems, in addition to the low self-esteem problems that Sora has) and well, they have every justification for attacking Xehanort.
It has been implied that the heartless of a person takes form depending on the darkness within the original self's heart right?
The person with the strongest darkness in the series so far (Xehanort) had a humanoid heartless (Ansem).
Sora's heartless has been changing from a simple shadow to this humanoid form throughout the series, which is also humanoid...
Boy, maybe Sora's inner darkness is getting closer to Xehanort's?
No, I don't think that's exactly what's happening. It's wierd, but I'll try to explain. First, he became a shadow, that is the only time he ever really became a Heartless, we know that. With Anti-Form, that's a result of the lingering darkness. Nomura said that story-wise, Anti-Form is a result of that event. I don't think it's growing exactly, he's just retains his human form because he *is* still human. In Anti-Form, well, how can I put this, I think that it's basically that his Heartless, or rather, his darkness, is coming out and covering his physical body, like he's wearing a suit of it. So i think it's the same amount of darkness, but spread out, like when you roll dough, I guess. But he does essentially loose control in that form. He looses access to the Keyblade and can't even Revert if there are enemies around. Nomura said that Rage form doesn't go as far into the darkness and Anti-form, so I think Sora has gained more control of the darkness, And now with Dark Form, I think he finally has enough control that he doesn't get completely covered in shadow.
@@stevenhiggins3055 Makes sense when you think about it
@@stevenhiggins3055 Anti Form is Sora wanting more power which is why darkness can consume him.
Rage Form is Sora getting frustrated and relying on the darkness as a last resort.
@@meteornome2556 No, Nomura flat-out said it's a result of him becoming a Heartless to save Kairi. He didn't say anything about a desire for power, which goes against Sora's character anyway. At worse one could argue that Anti-form is a result of Sora *abusing* a newfound power. Because we all know he does things without thinking about the consequences. But as it is, the official story is that if he had never become a Heartless, Anti-Form would not exist.
@@stevenhiggins3055 Him becoming a heartless is what allowed him to revert into a heartless whenever he sometimes enters a drive form is why anti appears. But him desiring more power is what can help bring it out. Whenever Sora enters a drive form it's him desiring more power then his base form which is why in Drive Forms he absorbs his friends Donald and Goofy (they are his power.) it's not too out of character because Sora does have moments where he can be selfish at times this is the same kid that entertained the idea of ruling the Pride Land's as it's King. Much like he has moments where he gets frustrated, it's not often but it does happen.
I swear, Rage Form’s “Return to Light” final strike makes him look like Venom.
And I thought I was the only one who noticed that!
I don't recall if I mentioned this in the first breakdown, but my theory about Riskcharge relates to the first plan for saving the hearts inside Sora. Ansem and Xemnas were goading Sora to fall into darkness to release their hearts, and I think Riskcharge is exactly that: falling so close to darkness that Sora's heart is on the verge of leaving his body, with the 3 hearts about to be freed.
Bonus little fact : If you use Data Greeting mode, put "Rage mode" Sora and close up to his face, you notice that his eyes are the same, but they're almost bulged right out of his sockets. Angle the camera right and you can still his Irises, too.
The amount of detail in this game is just...too much
I know right?
It's crazy.
I've played this game over 5 times, and I still notice new things to do this day.
Even in just this video, I spotted Roman Numerals around Xehanort's DM Circle (4:48) that disappear over time, likely counting down until he sends out more pillars of Light.
Datkness isn't just the loneliness, hate and rage. These are the emotions/passions kept unchecked and slowly corrupts the user.
Since Nomura based KH on Star Wars, I theorized this based on the idea of the dark side of the force.
Also, in the light novels, other emotions are listed too.
From the DDD novel: "Hate, sadness, anger, jealousy, fear, resentment, anguish, envy, uncertainty, pain, despair"
Fun fact: there's a line in the BBS novel that is similar to this one.
@@xrubyxlightx yes. True. Darkness is uncontrolled/unchecked pain, emotions, passion while light is restraint, compassion, temperance and love. And there is a balance of the two.
Shadows are cast by light I learned this when I was 3
Dude, Rage Form moves so fast just like Anti Form, that you don't have time to look how badass his combos animations are
I love the fact that anti form went from something that had no real options besides attacking in 2, to its own new viable form in 3. It almost seems like Sora has begun to be able to control darkness in him since dream drop.
I remember being really confused when I turned into anti-form in kh2
Right? It was always so random and at the worst times!
In KH2 it was a penalty for each time u abuse Drive Forms and it has hidden points on when to turn into Anti, but here is the opposite it makes u feel more rewarding and much safer due to u having team members that Heal and aid u in battle, in short terms 😅 they buffed Anti in KH3
Abe They know, but it is really hard to figure it out yourself.
I remember me and my brother were like "YOOO" the first time around.
“What the hell is this?”
Just a random thought. When Xehanort takes Sora’s light, isn’t that basically a reverse of what he did to Ventus? Now I’m imagining some sort of Anti-Vanitas equivalent.
3:49 gives me moon presence vibes
Damn I’m not gonna lie this breakdown is the most interesting. You really went in on the analysis
Glad you liked it c: KH3 has so much detail it’s insane
3:03 I think based on the dialogue Namine says a moment befote this part means that the risk charge is the pain of the memories of the hearts, so while the hearts are gone the painful memories are still there?
Thats could be a lore explanation for it, but probably the reason for not being able to risk charge in that phase is because it's useless since you don't even do any damage to Xehanort
Given what I heard of the differences between anti and rage is that in 2, when activating drive form he draws power from the light in his heart, but as we know those who has agreed over the light casts shadows, which is fitting. The more light there is the more noticeable the darkness. This him being ranted by anti form. With rage it's sort of a heartless/unversed combo relying on negative emotions, in this case rage. Which means that how his formchanges also work, through emotions, positive ones at that. Notice how in most of his form changes, you see him smiling during the transition. So I'm short, Drives rely on power from the heart itself, while formchanges rely on emotions.
Your friend noticed the 'heart leaving' sound and visual effect in Rage Form too? I thought it was only me! I find this really similar to the animation for Trinity Limit in the original Kingdom Hearts. The moment it's triggered, Sora lifts his keyblade to the sky as the glowing orbs (resembling the series' depiction of hearts) leave both Donald and Goofy to join together at it's tip before he thrusts it into the ground to perform the rest of the attack.
Rare attacks/abilities like these always convey to me a real sense of the raw strength and sacrifice that takes place during their execution. Love it!
I've been playing the kh games a while now, just wanted to say that the sound you hear during riskcharge is also the same one that plays when Data Roxas transforms a Castle Oblivion room into his battlefield in Re:Coded before "teaching" Sora "what true hurt feels like". So this only further proves the theory that he's harnessing the "hurt" from the memories of the people inside him/connected to him, which implies that Data Roxas lowkey taught Sora rage form.
Your videos are pure gold!
*This so cool! It's very detailed in the breakdown and in the game.*
I always intentionally tried to get Rage Form lol
I can't wait to see dark form in action. i hope he fights similarly to riku or vanitas ^_^
Just watched both videos on rage form. Aah I love the amount of detail. Great job :)
However, I am surprised that the theory that Vanitas is in control during rage form hasn't been mentioned (or maybe you just don't believe in it xP). I find it interesting that Sora changes the way he wields the keyblade during rage form but his heartless in Coded wield it like he usually does. Also, the fact that Vanitas said 'I'm the shadow that you cast' and Sora's shadow disappears in both rage and anti-form is....something lol.
Edit: One more thing: It's suspicious that Sora has some of Ven's attacks in this form. Where could that knowledge be coming from if Ven has been asleep 99% of the time? lol
I kinda like that Donald will sometime heal you when you're using the last Riskcharge, so you transform back into normal Sora while in the clear.
it may be an unpopular opinion but the return to the light combo is a better move than any of kh2's reaction commands
mitsuni taïko even showdown?
@@zacharystoddard8855 yeah, every reaction command
Don’t really know if anyone else noticed this but during the 2nd part of the final battle with Xehanort, you can see the icons from the chess pieces that represent the 13 and 7 if you look closely
Shadow Knight and the attack that gets you out of rage form hits 7 times against master xehanort
The 13 and 7 symbolism is strong in this fight
Sora's rage form more like Sora gonna rip and tear the heartless
3:11 but maybe is just because does hearts are connected especially to Sora
Maybe! I feel like maybe they didn't want to fully take the mechanic away right at the end and rather just showed the canon Rage Form transformation as one without the three hearts connected!
Darkness
You can skip the rage form section in the final fight if you use a shotlock like the ultima weapon, it will drain the health bar too quickly and if you are lucky, you can kill the boss before you even do that segment.
I played the entire game without going to into rage mode once until the final fight I was so surprised it was brought back
It feels like it have been a year since I've watched one of ur videos even if it actully been 3 days anyway for some reason i feel like ur voice is lower in this vid or maybe the music was little bit louder i dont know actully but as always i loved the breakdown now i have to replay kh3 again to see it i kinda always did that after watching one of ur breakdowns *literly kept focussing on Soras hat in kingdom key's formchange lol* Anyway keep it up 🤘
*gosh this will be my 12th time playing kh3*
Rage form is my favorite form.
3:20, because it's not a canonically risk chargin xD, it's just "let's not remove this mechanic just to make sense in detail."
Bio-Roxas: Explains how Rage Form works.
Me: Jamming out to KoC Tension Rising.
Wish that rage form had a bit more story stuff like in the end game area
VINDICATION!
YO
glad to see you still around c:
My mission is complete, I am ready to ascend to Valhalla.
Rage form and anti form sora kinda reminds of ichigo from bleach anti form being regular hollow and rage form being vasto lorde
My favorite form change next to Second Form and Double Arrowgun/Magic Launcher
Pretty interesting that his move resembles ventus/roxas since we now know from UnionX that darkness (the figure) attached itself to ventus and made him kill Strelitzia. I'm starting to wonder if that same darkness wasn't still attached to Ven when Sora took Ven's heart into himself, then attaching itself to Sora. Maybe.
3:21 or he could also still retain their memories, fragments of it at the very least
I want to point out that the Darkside orbs are reminiscent of how Sora’s Heartless in (Re:)Coded was a Darkside.
Heartless are Lovecraftian creatures.
Nah, not squid-like enough. The influence could be seen, but this isn't Bloodborne.
Rage form can be activated more than 2 times, its just you don't get to critical health more often, as it seems the more you use Rage Form the more it will appear when on Low HP, I say this because by the time I completed KH3 for the first time, each time I go back in that save file I pretty much 90% of the time get Rage Form on low hp
In an encounter! hat info came from the ultimania. I could've been more clear about that haha
Maybe the use of Riskcharge during after the Keyblade Graveyard stuff isn't canon.
3:40 The camera got bugged during the update included with Re:Mind.
Rage Form combos actually trigger the Revenge Value later compared to other forms.
Yaaahhh rage form best form!!
Agreed! My view of the Return to light finishing ability will have a 60-75% chance of instant KO on other enemies if it was replaced to the alternate quick finisher (except those with absolute instant KO resistance). If there was a change in the game to get into rage form easily there should be a rage corruption percentage for Sora based on the damage received (like the corruption percentage in Death End Re quest/Death End Re quest 2 where going into 80% corruption, the party members go into their "glitch"/rage form. Their glitch attack is a wild tri act attack dealing massive damage on foes but ends the glitch form. As an example)
The buffs should be fixed rage buff where you cannot end, dispel or remain in rage form for the rest of the battle unless a party member uses a panacea, rage corruption down making it harder to get into rage form and rage corruption up making it easier to get to rage form but at a cost of your defence.
Alright listen i have never given a shit about kingdom hearts in my life however....
Is that the goddamn motherfuckin level one stage from sonic unleashed in the beginning
No but it definitely looks like it.
Likely inspired by the same designs IRL. Just can’t remember what place had the same look...
Also, if you never gave a shit about KH, how did you get here?
@@aguywithgames3135 youtibe recommendations rewatched a video of a youtuber i like where he kinda simplifies plots of games and shows and he did one on kingom hearts so that might be it
Hawbar Ah, that makes sense.
Huh, it does look like Apotos. But this is Scala Ad Caelum
So is Sora get hurt emotionally and fueled with rage 🤔 whenever he riskcharges, and could it possibly be that Sora is fused with Darksied (since technically one of them destroyed the island) or being fused with Shadows/Neo Shadows and Darksied's power
Hmm it's possible! I feel like maybe to go into Rage Form he channels his rage and then to grow stronger, he channels the loneliness from the hearts inside him!
Also I think the original darkside we saw from KH1 in the Station of Awakening was supposed to represent Sora's Darkness so maybe that is why he has an ability similar to the Darksides!
@@BioRoxas recoded confirmed that sora's heartless is a darkside so maybe.
should i considered me lucky to see rage form the first time i got to critical health?
It's probably sora temporarily shattering his heart making his darkness more powerful
Something I noticed is that Rage Form never seems to trigger in the first fight of the Keyblade Graveyard. I was just replying it using the Overflow EZ Pass Code and it never showed up once, and Iet myself go into critical health a lot trying to get it to.
I wish there was a mod to always be in rage Form.
(Cutszenes, Menu etc)
They should make a way to obtain this form in the new dlc. Maybe a specific keyblade or skill/command rather than a conditioning. Like complete everything 100%, critical mode, max level, all trophies, etc… Also if they for whatever reason sell this transformation I would so buy it in a heartbeat. (I wish anti form was in the game too. 😭)
Yen sid: "So?"
Well it is a good form the problem is the magic the items and the link power
Haha Biostrats at the end XD
Im happy for rage forms existnce
Hey quick question. I saw a video where someone had rage form in their items and can use it whenever they want. Is that a mod? Or can I do it to?
yup that was a mod!
What if he's removing their hearts to increase his on lonyness
Thanks for this video. I think I have a good grasp on Kingdom Hearts as a whole but I never understood anything about Rage Form or what's even supposed to be happening. Does the game explain this at all? It seems like both Rage Form and Attractions should have been ~somehow~ been given an in-story introduction.. Not complaining, it's just I really want to know more about why these things are happening.
Rage form doesn't really need an explanation though, it's just an evolved/more controlled Anti form, as evidenced by the fact that while Sora is still in his KH2 clothes, Rage form looks exactly like Anti form. The only real difference is that hes using anger, not darkness, making it closer to an Unversed than a Heartless.
What’s the power scaling to rage form sora
It’s more like Hate form
4:17 since when does donald and goofy accompany you to the dark realm? I searched post game video gameplay and this the only video
That's during a battle gate in the Keyblade Graveyard
With Ez Code can you use Rage more than twice?
No spoiler warning 1:18
How come the evil guys have cooler abilities and just look better?
Show of hands who want a kh2 remake with unreal engine 4.
What does that have to do with KH3 or Rage Form?
@@BioRoxas sorry bro i loved your video and once again it was very detailed and well made.
@@BioRoxas just wanted to know if others would like the idea.
No worries xD Sorry if I came off rude haha I just sometimes have people in my comments trying to instigate fights about KH2 vs KH3 :p I was just trying to nip it in the bud before anything happened! If that wasn't your intent then I'm sorry!
@@BioRoxas i feel you man i wish the whole kh internet war would stop too.
yeaaaaah, from what i've found with rage form in the limit cut episode, you not being able to rage form after your second time is complete BS. i have reliably been able to hit rage for up to about 4 times before i die against data vanitas. (keep in mind i basicly treat rage form as punish mode along with a seperate cool down heal. and a few really important i-frames.)
Bio didn’t you already do this video.....Oh wait it’s a new video lol
Rage form is pretty ridiculous. My favorite form form if your working a strength build since it does sooooo much damage. Still outclassed by master form but ultima weapon kinda makes the game boring anyway. Its shot lock just nukes the battlefield and kills everything
Sora is slender man