Revised: 3D Printing - 13 Things I Wish I Knew When I Got Started
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Whether you’re thinking about buying your first 3D Printer, learning to use your new 3D Printer or you’ve been at this for a while, in the next several minutes I’m going to teach you thirteen things about 3D Printing that took me a little while to really understand and hopefully they’ll save you some time.
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00:00 Intro
02:00 #13: This is a Hobby
03:11 #12: Slicing Matters
04:26 #11: Print profiles
06:03 #10: Ironing
06:55 #9: Have a little help from your friends
08:21 #8: Materials matter
12:24 #7: Keep an eye on things
14:30 #6: Octoprint
16:58 #5: Understanding support
19:09 #4: Rafts, Brims & Skirts
22:37 #3: Get sticky (but only if you have to)
24:15 #2: Print on glass... or any good bed
26:08 #1: Bed leveling & The first layer squish
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Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I just turned 72, and decided I need a new hobby. I downloaded Fusion 360 to get started on learning to draw 3D models and will download a slicing software once I have confidence on Fusion. My goal is to create desk models and desk components before I start cutting up expensive wood. I hope I am still smart enough to do this but even if I find I am not, your video has been a great help.
You're awesome, Darryl. You got this!
Darryl you inspire me so much. I want to start new hitech hobbies when Im 72 too!
This is amazing, you can do it I believe in you!
@Dave Cockayne you can even turn a 3d printer into a CNC machine!
Best of luck to you! Cheering you on all the way! X)
6 months ago I watched about 10 minutes of this video. Moved on thinking “dude I just want to print stuff. I don’t care about tweaking settings. Just normal is fine” 🤦🏻♂️oh how I was I wrong. So here I am again lol
Lol I have watched a lot of videos, I just got a 3d printer in trade a week ago, and another 2 days ago. I want to print a starlink flat housing, and I want it in ASA, and I keep tweaking the settings on my ender 3 s1 pro, and things keep warping… argh!
@zachpangos7159 I planned on buying one. But now I'm having flashbacks, of the last month, on my cnc lol. Finally dialed in.
And now the x1c is a thing
This video should be mandatory for anyone starting this as a hobby.
Signed,
Somone who learned the hard way
Ill get one once I finish my current project haha
The thing I like about 3d printing is it's the perfect combination of science ,technology and art.
This is exactly how I feel about animatronics. It's hard to get people to understand sometimes.
The creating and finding of workarounds is really fun. It's specially satisfying.
#12 - 03:11 - Slicing Matters
#11 - 04:26 - Print profiles
#10 - 06:03 - Ironing
#09 - 06:55 - Have a little help from your friends
#08 - 08:21 - Materials matter
#07 - 12:24 - Keep an eye on things
#06 - 14:30 - Octoprint
#05 - 16:58 - Understanding support
#04 - 19:09 - Rafts, Brims & Skirts
#03 - 22:37 - Get sticky (but only if you have to)
#02 - 24:15 - Print on glass... or any good bed
#01 - 26:08 - Bed leveling & The first layer squish
Extremely useful when I had to come back to the video for reference. Thanks
Thanks dude. I was gonna do the same thing but then scrolled down to make sure no one had done it already
Just about the time I was thinking I need to take notes. . . Thanks, Mat
Best adhesive I've found is pure lemon juice. Smells great, VERY sticky, stays sticky for months, and easy to clean off.
Thanks, Mat!!!
This is 2018 me sitting here in 2021 thinking to myself wow that was three years ago
Damn 2023 now😔👌
2024 and this comment is 3 years ago (and the video is still relevant
@@DanielSlevin-yr5mtI can’t even remember what my comment was about at this point
I just got my first 3D printer today. I haven't even set it up, but this is the first video I've watched to get up to speed--so thank you!!
Same for me just got one
Me too, this vid kicks ass
Same here
Keep motivated. It's frustrating in the weirdest ways early on but it's worth it in the long run. My first few prints were perfect then I started having huge issues that took forever to work out. It was a discouraging progression to say the least, but once you've experienced most of the problems you can have once or twice it's pretty smooth sailing and pure joy. Good luck gentlemen.
Chris Duke How did you go setting up your 3D printer?
Great information. Thank you!
So glad you found it helpful! I've learned a ton from your channel. Let me know if I can ever help with anything you're working on - I'm pretty sure we live in neighboring towns :)
Did you use these tips when you printed the concrete statue? XD
@@ameturephysicist haha that was my thought haha
Hi
HOLY FUCK IS IT REALLY U JERRY
Couple things for future viewers: PETG does not work well on glass beds. Hairspray or masking tape is prob best if you have to. It also requires a lot of heat control and fine tuned retraction settings. Take the time to tweak and test and if you get an all metal hot-end, you will have to start that process from scratch.
Also rafts work well for objects without a smooth flat bottom surface. You can tweak settings of the raft top layer and print bottom layer to avoid final part deformation from raft break off.
Lastly, be patient. Test often with small but complex parts before loading up large ones. I like to shrink larger objects to 10-25% and run it first to make sure print orientation and supports will work as planned.
Happy printing!
Been a while since you posted this, but I wanted to thank you for the idea of shrinking larger objects. That is a fantastic idea that isn't obvious for someone who hasn't heard of it before.
Thankyou! I just started 3d printing (actually am about finished with my 2nd test boat) and have an ender 3 neo with a glass bed, I also have an enclosure and filament dryer (I don't think I need it for pla+ but it can't hurt) I don't know if I'll use the spool of pla that came with the printer, there's not much there and I got 2 1kg spools of esun pla+ so figured it'd be best to do my first test prints with the same filament I plan to use, like I said I'm finishing up my 2nd print as I type this, so I'm testing out different temperatures (first print the extruder was set to 210°C, I think I had the bed at 60°C but it might have been at 50°C. This run I have the bed at 60°C and te extruder at 225°C, I think I'll also do one at 220 and 215 and also might try setting the bed to 65°C, but thanks for your advice, I've been trying to decide of PETG is something I want to try, but I think I'll avoid it, at least until I'm comfortable using this thing and want to try different filaments. Have a good day!
Thank you for this video!
It helps me along my path in this 3d printing hobby.
It is clear that you spent time organizing the content and producing the video. The effort shows; it is good. Thx!
One use for a raft is when printing articulated toys (lizards, snakes, etc) when you have generally poor bed adhesion, due to the size of the individual pieces. Before I got my self-releasing glass bed rafts were a necessary evil.
Good point, and I also find a raft useful with long 'top heavy' parts printed standing vertically on end, like model pistols with no 'base'. Needs a lotta supports too, but also avoids having to print horizontally in two pieces.
@@mingonmongo1 I like rafts for printing large parts with narrow connection points too, things like RC car body parts. Also, good for holding narrow supports.
Only reason I've found to use raft for bed adhesion is when I'm printing really small parts (usually several in a batch). That being said, it was pretty essential to get them to print successfully.
Just recently bought my first 3d printer. All this info was very useful. I kinda figured it out as I went with my first prints, but having it said and explained by someone with more experience was very helpful. Thanks a lot! :)
Just getting into 3D printing and so this video has been very useful. Thanks.
Keeping this video in my favorites folder for jogging my memory when i forget the basics. Great info!
So glad I watched this, I've found loads of good videos about what to print, different filaments and what printer to buy. But this is the first that has given me the start on learning techniques of how to do it all, thank you!
I have a Wyze camera as well and made a mount to connect to the z axis and when the extruder moves up the mount and camera do as well is very helpful
One thing that REALLY helped me out with bed adhesion/bed leveling is changing just the initial layer height of the model in the slicer.
I like to do very high quality prints .05mm, my CR-10 disagrees with me and VERY often didn't want anything to stick to ANY bed I used. Glass/Glass+adhesive/Original Bed/Perforated beds/ painters tape... When it did adhere to the bed. it was often melted into the bed :(.
That is until I changed my first layer to always be .3mm. Now there is plenty of space for the first layer to adhere correctly, it doesn't warp, AND if my bed leveling is off even just a little, the layer is large enough to compensate. Until I get the BLtouch installed, this has been a blessing. No more ruining beds, no more ruining prints.. no more rafts! Most I use now is a skirt with 5 lines max
I should note I only use PLA for all of my prints, and have started printing minis with incredible details ;)
BLTouch is for people who can't reliably level. Sounds like you can, so you don't need it unless you are sharing your printer.
Also .05 is insanely patient. Respect.
Rafts helped me with the first version of my printbed which was warped a bit. With a few extra layers below the actual piece I had a good flat surface to print on. Although you're right that the first layer of the workpiece will not be as smooth as it can be when directly printing onto the hotbed. Best bottom layer surface finish I had with a glass bed - you basically get a shiny surface
Thank you for the in-depth tips , I’m in the process of getting my first 3D printer looking at all my options !
22:00 I once printed a bunch of screws with ~3-4 mm in diameter. I put 20 of them on a raft and whenever I needed one, I could easily break it off the raft.
I've been 3D printing for quite a while and still learned a great deal from this video. Ironing was probably the best single tip I've ever heard. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I always hated my top layers. Now the look fantastic.
Of all the many TH-cam videos I have watched trying to inform myself as a novice 3d printer yours is the very best and most informative 30 minutes anywhere.
Thanks SO much for this! The "brim" is a revelation, glad I saw this before having a tipped over light sabre on my printer.
Mechanical engineering student here. I’ve had some experience with 3D printing in the university printing lab. I’m waiting for my printer to come in, but I wanted to instruct myself a bit first. Very good and concise video. Hope to see more.
Mcdonalds fry specialist here, about to get my golden brown degree. The key is in the oil boiii
@@CrunchyTire I'm glad you're here too.
I once had a 10-hour-shift @ McDonald's: I fried a chicken nugget for 10 hours straight.
➡️ it turned to sand! 😅😭🤪
Trying to learn as much as possible so my first printer purchase will be a positive experience. I feel I've learned more from this single video than any other. Well done easy to understand. Very helpful imo
Thanks so much for doing this video. I am just getting into 3D printing and am learning so much, great job!
Thank you so much! I just got my 3D printer a few days ago, thanks for the advice and information!
I agree about the glass bed, sometimes prints can stick a bit too well, and that's without adhesive.
Freeze the bed for 15 minutes. Print pops right off.
For me it stuck so well I pulled of a bit of glas
I remember the bed levelling paper trick from This Old Tony setting his clearances on his CNC router on TH-cam. So that made it easy to understand why you say it’s important. 👍🏻🍻
Raft was really good for my wing sections. I reduced the air gap so it was a bit hard to take off but I just sanded it down after. But it held better than a brim. I'd say for tall thin objects it might be good.
Great job explaining everything, it was very helpful. I've been 3D printing for about 2 years now but I still consider myself a novice. It was definitely a good refresher. I wasn't aware of the ironing feature, so that was a nice tip. Thanks.
great info, gives me confidence of being successful at 3D printing.
I'm looking at getting my first 3d printer... This is all great info! Cheers!
Did you get it? Which one is it? How it working out so far?
just about getting my 1st printer and this really helps... never thought of octoprint and sounds great! thanks a lot
Enjoyed your video! I’m excited to explore some of your ideas! Thanks for your time and energy putting this together!
Great job! A clear winner. I've been researching 3D printing for literally months, and I still learned some things from this video, especially ironing, a clear description of the differences between skirts, brims, and rafts, and the real value of Octoprint.
Really glad you remade it, great video, much improved quality, subscribed
Just ordered my Genius, thank you for all vice words! And I get to use my old Pie!
Thank you so much for this video I have printed probably 15-20 things with the raft supports and wasted so much material while trying to find how to turn it off and you helped so much!!!
I really appreciate people like you who take their time to teach others. I just purchased a Makerbot Replicator + and I’m super excited to start 3D printing. So when I say I appreciate makers and specially those who teach others I mean it. Keep up the good work and I promise that as I get better and better and learn stuff I’ll pay it forward. Thanks
*Especially
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6:03 ironing can also be useful when your printer isn't printing everything with a consistent flow rate so that your next layers are OK so your print doesn't Fail.
Wow! I'm amazed with your video, thanks for doing this for newbies like me!
#13. Great advice for anything you care about. I have personally experienced this for several hobbies of mine (electronics design, jewelry, art...). I'm glad you said this first.
I've been thinking about getting into 3d printing, this video helped my understanding of what I'm actually getting into. Thanks a million!
I just want to say thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge of 3D printing. I'm just opening up an Ender 3 printer to put it together and start my first prints. You have gained a subscriber. Keep broadcasting!!!
Thank you. Extremely helpful for this newbie!
Rafts are very useful if you're using a dissolvable support filament. It really helps with ABS in particular to prevent warping, but also any time you have poor bed adhesion
16:30 I love how the timelapse only uses frames in which the printer head is on the right side of the print, making the left side look like it just rises up out of thin air
About tip #5 - Understanding support - I make my 3d models using Blender. And whenever I know in advance that my model will need a support or it will have to deal with bridging at any point, I make those supports within the 3D model itself, using the smallest thickness that I know the printer is capable of handling.
I have modeled and printed a couple of A-10 Warthogs and an F-15 Eagle for myself. And for supporting the wings, pylons and engines, as the miniature would be printed in the vertical orientation, I included these really thin "walls" coming from the base - or the raft, as mentioned in the video - to hold these structures, already during the 3D modelling process. It can be a more reliable method than the built-in supports you can create during the Slicing of the print, assuming of course you have experience with these 3D printing issues.
A must-watch primer! Anyone interested in 3D printing needs to see this! (been printing for about 6 years...)
Best advice I found so far for 3d printers, thanks for the tips.
Got my Anet A8 Plus setup today, now I gotta learn how to use it.
Something I recently noticed is when you use a brim on a first layer with lots of corners and windings, make sure the slicer does not produce short separate tracks. They will hardly stick even on good beds and have a good chance of messing up your first layer.
If I understand the issue, you spec'd a BRIM to add support. If I understand the problem, it seems that a RAFT might provide the solution. Then again, I didn't know about either before watching this. So, if I guessed correctly - the teacher did a good job!
I'm so glad I made it all the way to the end of this video. I am a super newbie and I haven't yet used my CR10s but I've been super confused about bed leveling and especially 'making it sticky'. This is a great correction and I feel much more confident going into my first print. Thank you for this clear and well-laid-out video.
I just bought a QiDi tech 1 and will be trying it out this weekend and this video helped so much. Thank you very much
I am just preparing myself to have my 3D printer and watched to understand how it works. Thanks so much.
Man this was an extremely helpful video. Thank you from a newbie!
The Wyze cam is AMAZING!
Can't wait for their camera doorbell!
Thank you so much for this video, Nils. I am still walking the initial path of choosing the right 1st printer for me! Very helpful indeed! :)
Very informative. Extremely well thoughout, and clearly conveyed. You answered all my questions in one shot. Love the references in the notes. Virtually all you need to know for a beginning printer. Thank you. I'm already recommending this video.
Can you do a video on Fusion 360? How to use the program for newcomers on to 3d printing world.
I think you're really good at explaining things. Will be very much appreciated.
Really good just a beginner i know nothing about this , your clarity in explaining makes for great teaching , thank you . Bas
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Thank you just got my 1st 3D printer form my brother in law it’s Tenalog 2 hands not seeing much on that specific 3-D printer but it’s been fun so far m. Thank you again. Subscribed after this video.
Thank you for this tutorial. I'm looking into building a mpcnc. Looks like i have to print my own parts.
I'm seeing if it is practical to get into printing fairly easily or just buying a intro cnc router. Very interesting in any case.
I've used rafts on prints where my bed adhesion was *too* good (and I couldn't get it off without damaging the part)
Rafts have been useful for me when I want high "horizontal" precision, for example gears or anything which requires tight tolerances on the first layers. With perfect stickyness and adhesion they may work fine without a raft, but a raft somewhat guarantees no elefant footing or other problems, which can be annoying to clean up afterwards.
THKS fora all info, you were simply great, it´s maybe the first 30 min video i could stand on youtube!!! great ...
This is not a youtube video, this is a 3D printing mini course! I didn't know why all people put paper when leveling, I knew they are leveling the bed but did't know why the need of paper. You actually made me (probably more of us) understand. I don't even have a 3D printer yet, but I'm waiting my TRONXY X5SA Pro to be shipped (damn covid) and for few days I keep watching youtube videos. After this one I realized that show "Tips" for experts. I will save this and watch it for few times, probably more after I fail some prints.
It’s not just having a “sheet of paper”.
It’s having the correct thickness to set the deck offset for that first layer.
I have yet to see someone say what weight or kind of paper they are actually using.
Totally agree with your top 3 picks. You know your stuff.
Too many people have failures that are related to poor bed leveling, and when asking for help they claim " the bed is leveled", because they underestimate the importance of the first layer adhesion/success.
Whenever having a spaghetti monster as a result, 95% of the time the cause is related to bed leveling.
That is by far the most important tip. Master the bed leveling!
I knew nothing before your vid and now I feel not only semi-pro but like you've saved me a fortune
Thank you so much! I wanted to buy one for my nursery to make little pots, but I don't think I have the dedication for another full blown hobby. You saved me from tons of frustration. You rock! Eric from East Austin Succulents
EXCELLENT VIDEO !
Very good points in this video.
A couple of things to consider though;
BED ALIGNMENT (not leveling)
The initial paper alignment is the first step to get close but it is just the first step…
Bed "leveling" is a misnomer, and should technically be called “Bed Alignment Procedure” because it is actually an alignment process NOT a “leveling” process, that is the entire print surface is "aligned" equidistant to the extruder(s). Had a customer send a picture of a carpenter’s level on the bed.
All documentation was revised, changing “leveling” to “alignment” after that incident.
So start with the paper then use a “bed alignment” print to dynamically adjust the bed as it is extruding a “first layer” print.
Create a near maximum bed size single layer circular print to perform this procedure.
I like your graphic of the cross section of what the first layer extrusion should look like.
GLASS
For safety reasons, plain mirrored or clear glass is NOT recommended for printing with heated beds and especially in an enclosed printer.
We had a lot of issues with 12” x 12” plain and tempered glass not being “flat”, these ranged from a single full sheet warp of 1.2mm to ripples of 0.7mm that were very apparent in the initial layer.
Borosilicate ended up being the design choice and was the most trouble free but a lot more expensive.
So if buying off the shelf glass take a straight edge and feeler gauges and pick the best piece.
OBJECT ADHESION
Any “spray” used for surface adhesion will cause “over spray” and will work as well, but with disastrous results, on all moving parts, bearing rails, slides, flex cables, fans and connectors used in the printer.
The Elmer’s washable school glue, the purple stuff $1 a stick for the large ones. It can be scrapped off or dissolved with water.
Just a hint, any 3D printer installation should have a dedicated vacuum to keep the printer and area clean of debris and “glue shavings”.
Thank you @ Bruce Kuper.
Another thing to know: there must be 25 settings in the slicer software that you need to optimize, in order to get good prints....temp, extrusion, retraction, line width, height, fan speeds
I have used rafts on a few tall skinny parts that needed support towards the top. The supports were so thin they wouldn't stick to the plate as it got tall enough so a raft gives more surface area to keep the support upright.
Also wood filament is my favourite but painful with supports.. some things need but model orientation can sometimes be a pain.. I love the surface finish and strength though..
When levelling a surface with 4 corners, it's more efficient to level opposite corners rather than go round the surface doing each corner.
I've also found that leveling more than once in a row can help because once you adjust one corner all others change in height simultaneously.
I've been watching this for 30 minutes and I legit thought it was only 13. Very well made, thank you!!
Thanks Man, just got a 3D printer and this has helped me greatly to understand the basics.
I'm just looking into learning this. This video was very valuable. Thank you.
One of the best videos I have seen for beginners! Thanks for putting this together. It is really informative and a very well put together. Nice work all round!
Thanks!
I'm contemplating starting in 3D-Printing, and I must say this video was an eye opener. Thank you
Thanks man I just kinda pondered some ideas and searched 3d printers on TH-cam and found this. I might be on ti something and appreciate how helpful you have been in this video. Keep it up!
Thanks for the video, I'm thinking about getting into 3D printing maybe next winter, subscribed!
i'm just a silly female who usually watches makeup tutorials or fashion videos or how to do gel nails at home. some times i check out random diy's and i saw one on a dude making electricity from his rain gutter. it was extremly tecnical, he was making parts on his 3D printer, this led me to you. i had a vague idea what 3D printing was but i wanted to know more ,like how did it actually work. the more vids i watched the more my mind was blown. this is all old hat to you all who do it, but it is totally amazing to me. to think now days they are printing body parts and orgins and even food. tecnology moves so fast....i still have troubles working my cell phone. i bet you have advanced so far in the 2 yrs since you made this vid. thanks for the info i was totally amazed at all that goes into 3D printing.
you are not just a silly female. I bet you're awesome.
@@PK-tw9bm thank you , i don't know about awesome, but i am rather cool and a little eccentric if i do say so myself
I doubt you are female
@@KH-kg4bm what makes you think i'm not a female??? why should I lie?
@@chrisbruno1343 What kind of woman calls herself a silly female? Where is your self-respect?
Just wanted to say thank you. A moment ago I ordered the TEVO Tornado from GearBest using your discount code. This is my first 3D printer and I am very excited. I hope to see more videos from your 3D Printing Zone channel. Cheers from Texas!
Hi there. Just got a printer and im very excited as well. How is 3d printing going for you 10 months later?
Straight away, 12 seconds in, I already admire the intelligence of this man for putting that camera in the back. + Respect & Intelligence
This is an excellent video. Very well done. You can understand it, it is simple, clear instruction, and good audio. This was very useful information that I direct people to watch before they start printing.
You have a very natural presenting style which is such a welcome change from the more common, scream-at-the-lens ‘technique’. Thanks for the great info!
This deserves more views and likes, thank you so much, very broad and comprehensive.
This is a *REALLY* great overview. Thank you so much for sharing----from an aspiring newbie.
Just getting my first 3D printer today. Some really good tips, thank you 😀
Got an Ender 3 Arriving tomorrow, this is a great insight as to what to expect
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Penis?
re: ABS. I use it as my primary material because Acetone melts it. That means Acetone can be used to weld parts together and to smooth the finish when done.
TheMrTTT One of the major benefits of ABS you can thin it in Acetone and paint it on the build plate easily to increase the adhesion!
@@KalaniHausman True. I recently combined advice from a lot of videos on first layer adhesion and I'm stunned at how simple a solution I landed on. (using a Monoprice Mini Delta.) 1. Blue tape to bottom mount a glass build plate solely for it's flatness. 2) Blue tape surface with NO HEATING. 3) Lightly sand blue tape. It's working great for 8-10 prints before replacing. 4) 215C for PLA 235C for ABS. First layer is excellent. Apparently heating Blue tape reduces it's adhesion.
TheMrTTT The Blue tape works better than Duct Tape though both heat well and lose their adhesion!
Thank you for the video. I'm looking to buy my first one and your video really helped!
Just watched - first 3D printer coming today. Thanks for the video! I feel like I'm in a classroom (in a good way :). Well done
One addition to the leveling: If you use a glass bed, you can likely use your parts cooling fan to level the bed if your nozzle is clean.
Turn the fan on 100%, and adjust the bed so that the bed just barely rings with the fan.
Props to fixing the audio issues :D
Gosh I wish I'd found this one before going through 25 minutes of watching the other one...
So much better! :D
Doing so earned a like and subscription. Well done.
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Thank you for the info! Just the description of how tight the paper should feel under the nozzle was worth watching. Of course, there was a lot of other helpful info too.
Great information. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Haven't had any problems with the stock bed on my Ender 3, apart from keeping the damn thing level and flat. Maybe it's time to go glass or get a BLTouch.
do you have issues getting the crap off the stock bed? always seems to be an issue to get the skirt off
I just pulled the trigger on one of these a couple days ago and I've been doing a lot of reading a lot of people upgrade the springs for stiffer springs, that with a glass bed is supposed to be pretty helpful