I started out at 10 years old driving dump truck in a gravel pit and it had the 318 Detroit and I was told that to drive them you slam your hand in the door first thing in the morning and drive angry all day keep them rpms up.. 😆
That's hilarious! My husband drove a Freightliner with a Detroit in the early 1970s. He woke up mad every morning but he wouldn't quit because he loved his boss.
What dismays me, is that in some cases, these defects were never spotted by other mechanics. Worse yet, a few failures were actually caused by faulty parts or poor workmanship, at other shops.
This is why I tell people the first thing they should buy for a new project whether it's a bus,tractor etc is a full set of shop service manuals. It might take awhile to find one and they might cost a good bit, but they are worth every penny.
You are just Awsome Your narration is pleasant and flows. I LOVE the original GREEN engine. The old busses are Awsome. I am happy to see you guys fixing them. I wish your continued busyness and success.
Those Detroits' just keep on running. Remember almost all of those parts. Thanks for putting them all together. Linking the videos would be a lot of work, but awesome.
This answers a long forgotten question I never asked, of the charter motorcoach company for whom I worked for 14 years, "why did they send several of us to gain certification (mine, was Carrier semi-hermetic air conditioning systems, in 1982, while on leave from NATO/OTAN duty in the USAF; I parlayed that cert into a Carrier dealership; should anyone have to work on a semi-herm compressor, remember, it's usually the unloader valves that are at some percentage of blame). The answer became evident when I noticed, several BGM videos/years back, that truck shops and truck stops don't know "diddley" about anything except for fueling, and maybe filter replacement, when it comes to EVERYTHING bus/motorcoach.
Scary to think of the vehicles that go down the road with this kind of problem and don't get found in time. Thank you for what you do to make the roads safer.
Thank you, Scott, for doing videos like this, and the repairs. I'm learning, watching. Hoping to have some ideas as to what to look for...planning on getting a bus after retirement...in a bit under 7 years. Thanks, again, Sir! And greetings from Southern Michigan.
Scott, Nice change up, my friend! Your near-professional photos along with descriptions were simply great! I have to see your wife's yearbook photo was just darling, hair style aside; I am betting that Pippi Longstockings was in the vogue with girls he'd age about then! Keep up the great work and kudos on your compilation video-it was a real eye-opener!!!
Thanks for the reminder of how difficult your job is. Most of these components took a lot of skill and effort to remove and replace, often disassembling various other components to even get to. Wrenching is never easy.
That was fun. Whenever you bring in a new bus, I think bags, brakes, bushings, bearings, and tires...assume they all gotta happen...and then everything else that the owner actually came in for. I bet bus owners would buy a maintenance schedule if you ever had time to make one
Scott, unbelievable the damage to these vintage buses. The video is a good resource for owners of these great buses and signs to look out for before further damage is done. Thanks Scott truly enjoyed the video!
Hello Scott! Video was great, thanks for compiling and putting this all together!! By the way your expansion on the property there is a real good idea with the pit area and expanded turn around and having cleared out the trees will help alot for generating power from the solar panels. This should prove to be a real asset to the business and be much safer when working under the busses!! Wishing you all the best as usual!!
Interesting. Some quite scary, but what a testiment to how rugged those dogs were built. Super stout construction, designed and built in USA. Right on,,,,Izzy,,,,,
I've maintained since I started watching your channel there are an alarming number of old busses on the road today that are in a serious condition of disrepair. The scariest part is often the owners are not even aware of how dangerous their bus is. Some are so bad, as illustrated in this episode, they are held together by little more than force of habit. Must be one hell of a habit though!
That was some really bad stuff personally I think you save someone from getting hurt. Thanks for the great work I would recommend you to anyone that drives a bus that is
Wow, Scott! What an interesting video! It makes me wonder in what shape some of these buses and Wanderlodges that we see on the the highways might actually be...? I'm gaining a new respect for the older coaches and units with what you've shown us. They are indeed tough! Stay well, stay safe!
That carnage is crazy that some of it was still running and driving I know I myself have personally seen some crazy carnage but the majority of that tops anything I have seen love your videos keep up with the great work
As heavy as the buses are it makes sense after years of running on the road with little maintenance on them. You and Tyler provide a great service for folks. Even down the road someday electric buses will still need the wheel train worked on
Scott.... I didn't see Schenectady on your garage wall??? I went to Union College in Schenectady, so I had to learn how to spell it! Alco (Big Boy locomotive) and GE (large steam turbine generators) made Schenectady the 'city that lights and hauls the world'. WillyB
Scott, would you perhaps consider a longer format video demonstrating what a bus owner should check/inspect before each trip, and the other things and at what intervals? Fluids are, or ought to be a no-brainer along with tire pressure. Modern vehicles are so durable, they’ve spoiled us. How often do you see a disabled vehicle pulled off on the side of the road? Quite common in the 60s & 70s for this 67 year old.
These things show up on semi's too. You figure a lot of these old bus conversions don't see a lot of miles while a truck is hauling 80,000 lbs every day and might be like these.
WOW!! this video takes me back to a previous recent comment Scott, where I said these busses need to be brought into some sort of yearly inspection across all states, registering them as motorhomes or RVs and then letting them loose on unsuspecting owners isn't a wise thing, if there is not a reason to inspect most will save the money, safety is always someone elses problem.
You get a front row seat to some spectacular carnage. Carnage that few get to see mostly because of the severe lack of maintenance, and sheer lack of knowledge. I give these vintage vessels a very wide birth. I don't need any of my equipment getting tangled up with one.
@@BusGreaseMonkey i have a lot of respect for you all and I follow you 💯 from 🇨🇦 #YSW I have a question to ask about whst should a person be looking for when purchasing a big Bus 🚌 to turn it into a R/V or a Coach Bus 🚌 bye 👋 from #YSW
That was incredible! Man, those things are robust. It’s not just buses either. I’ve seen similar things in cars and trucks. In the case of cars at least, symptoms are usually very noticeable. But sometimes people drive on anyway. Just fill it with gas and go. Yikes.
It's friggen amazing how many shops have no concern about customers safety. It's all about "get them out the door" to collect the cash. Poor maintenance can kill you. Especially on vehicles as large as a bus or motorhome. My Mom caught the shop at the top of our street attempting to cheat her on what should have been a fairly cheap repair on her car. Unfortunately for him my Mom worked at Flint Michigan's Buick City factory and knew exactly what the problem was. She turned him in to Sunoco because he kept holding her car hostage till she paid a bill far beyond what it should have been. They sent 4 vehicles to his shop with known problems. He tried the same thing with them onky worse since the cars had out of state licences. They revoked his dealership and my Mom took him to court and she got 4 times what he tried to scam her as ordered by the court. He ended up out of business. Do that in a small farm town and you'll end up that way.
My names Tim and i too always seem to get motor oil and ATF in my hair all the time hahaha i got a 73' IH Loadstar 1600 grain truck that i hope to repower with a 2 stroke Detroit.
Scott, Thanks for this (and all the other) videos. They are so interesting. One question, in this video at time 15:08 there is a squirrel -cage blower and in the center there is a casting with something that looks kind of like a spark plug. What is it and what is its function?
LOL - I've got some similar pics from my time working in the Base Auto Shop when I was in the Military.... Guys would come in and fix their vehicles.... I saw everything from chewed out Transmissions (WHY would Ford put a Mazda car manual transmission in a 1-ton TRUCK?), to stripped differential gears, bent rods, to even a cracked engine block. And like you said - most of it is because of bad maintenance.
I have preached many times that crooked politicians pass bull shit laws exempting rv for no reason other than money and greed. I figured your comment was meant to sound like i don’t want that but I’m always preaching that the exemption is bogus and especially for drivers to be exempt too.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Yes, it would be interesting to speculate what those politicians would say if a ten ton converted coach with faulty brakes was in an accident with say, a school bus causing multiple fatalities… Probably some guff about “thoughts and prayers” totally ignore the root cause and scream blue murder when someone proposes a practical solution to the problem.
Hey GM, nice video. The most I know what to do with a bus, is ride in it; besides watch you and your family make the lives of others, better. ? Maybe you could from time to time gather old worn parts and make another witness to your legacy; a parts "Bus Man"🤖🛠 statue where visitors can observe it ? Not joking. Thanks again friends👋👍
@@BusGreaseMonkey Brave man! Or forgiving wife with a sense of humor. My wife would nor speak to me for days if I did something like that. But then my wife’s elementary school days were in South Africa. They don’t seem to do the picture thing there the way we do here in the U.S.
5:50 minutes into the video. That axle shaft may not be bad. The bearing has an inner race. That is where the bearing needs to be round. All the axle has to do is center the bearing. As long as the bearing was not cocked or sloppy on he axle, the axle could be reused.
The difficulty is that, even if the owners recognise a fault, heavy stuff like this is just not a DIY proposition. You need some serious workshop kit to tackle these jobs and a fair amount of brute strength. Essentially, if you can't afford to pay professional workshop prices, running an old bus is probably not a realistic idea for most people.
hi Machines only fail from 3 things 1/ bad design 2/ lack of maintenance 3/ idiot mechanics ... If private buses /machines were maintained yearly with a full check over combined with full service mechanics would be unemployed. I`m shocked at the lack of care for a proper maintenance schedule .
I rode Greyhounds in he 60s, and I still wonder why the driver always ground his way into first gear when leaving a station? Later, when I had a Buffalo Bus as a TV Mobile unit, I always put the stick in 2nd then moved it to first, avoiding that "grind me a pound when you're at it" sound. I loved driving that old girl, that particular whine you could hear going down the road was a song I loved.
I'm always shocked when I see how the old stuff stands up to abuse, however, my dad used the cheapest stuff he could find to do a repair, if it was ever repaired. Just a different te and things were made differently, I guess
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I started out at 10 years old driving dump truck in a gravel pit and it had the 318 Detroit and I was told that to drive them you slam your hand in the door first thing in the morning and drive angry all day keep them rpms up.. 😆
😂😂😂
That's hilarious! My husband drove a Freightliner with a Detroit in the early 1970s. He woke up mad every morning but he wouldn't quit because he loved his boss.
TRUTH!!!!
I recognize that differential pin. Thanks for seeing that Scott and Tyler. And big thanks to Chris Newton for sending me an NOS one. You guy ROCK
What dismays me, is that in some cases, these defects were never spotted by other mechanics. Worse yet, a few failures were actually caused by faulty parts or poor workmanship, at other shops.
@Simr Khera - Just a question, Sir...What is the best way to teach them? Thanks
Mechanics with tickets!!
Making like big bucks.
Many just keep them running as best they can …. Right or Wrong
This is why I tell people the first thing they should buy for a new project whether it's a bus,tractor etc is a full set of shop service manuals. It might take awhile to find one and they might cost a good bit, but they are worth every penny.
Bus owners are lucky to have you and Tyler on the job keeping these old buses safe and the road.👍
Having bulletproof machinery that will run to the bitter end is a double edged sword.
I like how Kelly's picture got snuck in 👌👍☮️
How cool it is to know that each one of those scary finds were fixed, and sent down the road to be used and enjoyed by the owners for years to come!!!
They were engineered to run under the worst conditions. It's amazing to see the stuff you find. Keep up the good work!
You are just Awsome
Your narration is pleasant and flows.
I LOVE the original GREEN engine.
The old busses are Awsome.
I am happy to see you guys fixing them.
I wish your continued busyness and success.
Those Detroits' just keep on running. Remember almost all of those parts. Thanks for putting them all together. Linking the videos would be a lot of work, but awesome.
i really enjoy it when you all diagnosis an issue and show fixing it. just my opinion
Good ole Lenny. I kind of miss the old days.
Wow, I'm rethinking buying a bus.
The description of carnage didn't disappoint. Wow that's a lot that could go wrong!
This answers a long forgotten question I never asked, of the charter motorcoach company for whom I worked for 14 years, "why did they send several of us to gain certification (mine, was Carrier semi-hermetic air conditioning systems, in 1982, while on leave from NATO/OTAN duty in the USAF; I parlayed that cert into a Carrier dealership; should anyone have to work on a semi-herm compressor, remember, it's usually the unloader valves that are at some percentage of blame). The answer became evident when I noticed, several BGM videos/years back, that truck shops and truck stops don't know "diddley" about anything except for fueling, and maybe filter replacement, when it comes to EVERYTHING bus/motorcoach.
Scary to think of the vehicles that go down the road with this kind of problem and don't get found in time.
Thank you for what you do to make the roads safer.
Unbelievable! It just amazes me how tough those motors are! Thank you Scott!
Lol Kelly that was awesome …
Awesome video, Scott. Very informative and illustrative, as to the typical mechanical failures ostensibly from a lack of maintenance and neglect.
Thank you, Scott, for doing videos like this, and the repairs. I'm learning, watching. Hoping to have some ideas as to what to look for...planning on getting a bus after retirement...in a bit under 7 years.
Thanks, again, Sir! And greetings from Southern Michigan.
Scott,
Nice change up, my friend! Your near-professional photos along with descriptions were simply great!
I have to see your wife's yearbook photo was just darling, hair style aside; I am betting that Pippi Longstockings was in the vogue with girls he'd age about then!
Keep up the great work and kudos on your compilation video-it was a real eye-opener!!!
How appropriate to show us scary stuff like that for Halloween! 😱💀
I am glad that the only thing in the video that might have been my bus is the stripped wheel stud
Thanks for the reminder of how difficult your job is. Most of these components took a lot of skill and effort to remove and replace, often disassembling various other components to even get to. Wrenching is never easy.
That was fun. Whenever you bring in a new bus, I think bags, brakes, bushings, bearings, and tires...assume they all gotta happen...and then everything else that the owner actually came in for. I bet bus owners would buy a maintenance schedule if you ever had time to make one
Thanks for the scary Halloween video. This is more scary than any Halloween movie! Especially the sides of that tire!!!
That was great Scott and Kelly's photo was hilarious.... 🤣🤣
Yup agree I bursted out laughing
🤣🤣 My wife and I did...
Awesome video! My FAVORITE channel Scott!
Scott, unbelievable the damage to these vintage buses. The video is a good resource for owners of these great buses and signs to look out for before further damage is done. Thanks Scott truly enjoyed the video!
Great video.....thanks!!
Great stuff, Scott! Keep these coming - lots of "oh shoot" moments!
Hello Scott! Video was great, thanks for compiling and putting this all together!! By the way your expansion on the property there is a real good idea with the pit area and expanded turn around and having cleared out the trees will help alot for generating power from the solar panels. This should prove to be a real asset to the business and be much safer when working under the busses!! Wishing you all the best as usual!!
Interesting. Some quite scary, but what a testiment to how rugged those dogs were built. Super stout construction, designed and built in USA. Right on,,,,Izzy,,,,,
Amazing how much stuff you find repairing those buses ,Scott thank you for sharing all of that ….
I've maintained since I started watching your channel there are an alarming number of old busses on the road today that are in a serious condition of disrepair. The scariest part is often the owners are not even aware of how dangerous their bus is. Some are so bad, as illustrated in this episode, they are held together by little more than force of habit. Must be one hell of a habit though!
I havent seen a con rod bent like that in years gave me a good chortel
Excellent compilation !!! For me, the most painful is the wrench through new tires ... someone else's error causing so much cost.
Something to think about when you're ready to pop on that old bus Because it's too good of a deal to pass up 💰 🚌💨
That was some really bad stuff personally I think you save someone from getting hurt. Thanks for the great work I would recommend you to anyone that drives a bus that is
Wow, Scott! What an interesting video! It makes me wonder in what shape some of these buses and Wanderlodges that we see on the the highways might actually be...? I'm gaining a new respect for the older coaches and units with what you've shown us. They are indeed tough! Stay well, stay safe!
Bus Grease Mountain. What a song! You Rock Scott!
A true testament to the super duty build of the older stuff. But when I see one on the road, I'm probably getting away from it now.
That carnage is crazy that some of it was still running and driving I know I myself have personally seen some crazy carnage but the majority of that tops anything I have seen love your videos keep up with the great work
Wow....."carnage" doesn't adequately describe these horrors! It is truly amazing how nearly all of these buses were still running down the road.
That is impressive Scott,,,,,,testimony to them still hanging around,,🇺🇸😍☕️☕️
Enjoyed this video bro. Safe travels
As heavy as the buses are it makes sense after years of running on the road with little maintenance on them. You and Tyler provide a great service for folks. Even down the road someday electric buses will still need the wheel train worked on
Scott.... I didn't see Schenectady on your garage wall??? I went to Union College in Schenectady, so I had to learn how to spell it! Alco (Big Boy locomotive) and GE (large steam turbine generators) made Schenectady the 'city that lights and hauls the world'. WillyB
Carnage video compilations are always good🤙👏
Scott, would you perhaps consider a longer format video demonstrating what a bus owner should check/inspect before each trip, and the other things and at what intervals? Fluids are, or ought to be a no-brainer along with tire pressure. Modern vehicles are so durable, they’ve spoiled us. How often do you see a disabled vehicle pulled off on the side of the road? Quite common in the 60s & 70s for this 67 year old.
CARNAGE! Love it. Do more of these please, because I know you are getting into all the worst stuff in Busnutlandia.
These things show up on semi's too. You figure a lot of these old bus conversions don't see a lot of miles while a truck is hauling 80,000 lbs every day and might be like these.
Great video. Very scary. Perfect for Halloween.
WOW!! this video takes me back to a previous recent comment Scott, where I said these busses need to be brought into some sort of yearly inspection across all states, registering them as motorhomes or RVs and then letting them loose on unsuspecting owners isn't a wise thing, if there is not a reason to inspect most will save the money, safety is always someone elses problem.
Nice video. Would like to see your top ten list of buses, as far as dependability and simplicity.
LOVE me some mechanical carnage, and they STILL WORK. Being impressed, scared and hooting at every sec of this video.
You get a front row seat to some spectacular carnage. Carnage that few get to see mostly because of the severe lack of maintenance, and sheer lack of knowledge. I give these vintage vessels a very wide birth. I don't need any of my equipment getting tangled up with one.
Very cool video, more please 😀🙃🍒
Great compilation of bus issues
Always love a good carnage video!
After 10:53 are we sure Scott isn't going to be buried in the new inspection pit?
Hehe
@@BusGreaseMonkey i have a lot of respect for you all and I follow you 💯 from 🇨🇦 #YSW I have a question to ask about whst should a person be looking for when purchasing a big Bus 🚌 to turn it into a R/V or a Coach Bus 🚌 bye 👋 from #YSW
@@BusGreaseMonkey DO YOU GUYS FIX SERIES 60 DETROIT DIESEL IN A FREIGHTLINER FLD AND CENTURY CLASS TRACTOR ?
After sneaking in the pic of his wife?
Yes
That was incredible! Man, those things are robust. It’s not just buses either. I’ve seen similar things in cars and trucks. In the case of cars at least, symptoms are usually very noticeable. But sometimes people drive on anyway. Just fill it with gas and go. Yikes.
I wonder how many lives you have saved doing what you and your son are doing??
Crazy.
Fantastic!
Wow! Very cool stuff! That wrench in the new tire. It still amazes me how that happed. How the heck do you get a 3/4 wrench in tires??? 🤯
I worked on MCIs for almost 30 years, ive seen many of the things youve seen. crazy
I remember the work that had to be done to repair the engine mount crack in Sage's bus.
It's friggen amazing how many shops have no concern about customers safety.
It's all about "get them out the door" to collect the cash.
Poor maintenance can kill you.
Especially on vehicles as large as a bus or motorhome.
My Mom caught the shop at the top of our street attempting to cheat her on what should have been a fairly cheap repair on her car.
Unfortunately for him my Mom worked at Flint Michigan's Buick City factory and knew exactly what the problem was.
She turned him in to Sunoco because he kept holding her car hostage till she paid a bill far beyond what it should have been.
They sent 4 vehicles to his shop with known problems.
He tried the same thing with them onky worse since the cars had out of state licences.
They revoked his dealership and my Mom took him to court and she got 4 times what he tried to scam her as ordered by the court.
He ended up out of business.
Do that in a small farm town and you'll end up that way.
Scott,
How about a video on inspections and symptoms. This would promote safer operation and better maintenance...hopefully.
Always good information, but damn you are brave with the wife's photo. I would be in so much trouble from my wife.
Great destruction video!
Your gonna be sleeping in Lenny for sharing the wife's picture😂
My names Tim and i too always seem to get motor oil and ATF in my hair all the time hahaha i got a 73' IH Loadstar 1600 grain truck that i hope to repower with a 2 stroke Detroit.
Four words. Mandatory Annual Road-worthiness Inspections.....
Two words “rv exempt”
keep the clips coming
Scott, Thanks for this (and all the other) videos. They are so interesting. One question, in this video at time 15:08 there is a squirrel -cage blower and in the center there is a casting with something that looks kind of like a spark plug. What is it and what is its function?
LOL - I've got some similar pics from my time working in the Base Auto Shop when I was in the Military.... Guys would come in and fix their vehicles.... I saw everything from chewed out Transmissions (WHY would Ford put a Mazda car manual transmission in a 1-ton TRUCK?), to stripped differential gears, bent rods, to even a cracked engine block. And like you said - most of it is because of bad maintenance.
Every video you post makes a stronger and stronger case for the need to end or modify the RV exemption for buses.
Where do you think i stand on that issue?
@@BusGreaseMonkey I would say "Torn" It would lead to safer road ways but at the same time send a lot of buses to the bone yard.
I have preached many times that crooked politicians pass bull shit laws exempting rv for no reason other than money and greed. I figured your comment was meant to sound like i don’t want that but I’m always preaching that the exemption is bogus and especially for drivers to be exempt too.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Yes, it would be interesting to speculate what those politicians would say if a ten ton converted coach with faulty brakes was in an accident with say, a school bus causing multiple fatalities… Probably some guff about “thoughts and prayers” totally ignore the root cause and scream blue murder when someone proposes a practical solution to the problem.
Hey GM, nice video. The most I know what to do with a bus, is ride in it; besides watch you and your family make the lives of others, better. ? Maybe you could from time to time gather old worn parts and make another witness to your legacy; a parts "Bus Man"🤖🛠 statue where visitors can observe it ? Not joking. Thanks again friends👋👍
That was fun Scott epic fail for Kelly sorry Kelly it made me crack up.
Immortalized in a school yearbook.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Brave man! Or forgiving wife with a sense of humor. My wife would nor speak to me for days if I did something like that. But then my wife’s elementary school days were in South Africa. They don’t seem to do the picture thing there the way we do here in the U.S.
@@BusGreaseMonkey stop making me laugh I can't stop I bet it was brutal though.
Amazing!
If I think about how picky actual cars are….
5:50 minutes into the video. That axle shaft may not be bad. The bearing has an inner race. That is where the bearing needs to be round. All the axle has to do is center the bearing. As long as the bearing was not cocked or sloppy on he axle, the axle could be reused.
What frightens me is that so many owners had no idea. Shows in some cases how well they don't look after their buses.
The difficulty is that, even if the owners recognise a fault, heavy stuff like this is just not a DIY proposition. You need some serious workshop kit to tackle these jobs and a fair amount of brute strength. Essentially, if you can't afford to pay professional workshop prices, running an old bus is probably not a realistic idea for most people.
What you don’t know can kill you!
hi
Machines only fail from 3 things
1/ bad design
2/ lack of maintenance
3/ idiot mechanics
... If private buses /machines were maintained yearly with a full check over combined with full service mechanics would be unemployed. I`m shocked at the lack of care for a proper maintenance schedule .
Kelly is so cute!
mind blown
Wow 😊
wow, holy crap.
I rode Greyhounds in he 60s, and I still wonder why the driver always ground his way into first gear when leaving a station? Later, when I had a Buffalo Bus as a TV Mobile unit, I always put the stick in 2nd then moved it to first, avoiding that "grind me a pound when you're at it" sound. I loved driving that old girl, that particular whine you could hear going down the road was a song I loved.
I can't believe the content you've been pushing out as of late. While not a bus owner, it's what I want to do when I retire, I think...
Wow,wow,wow😬😬👍👍
I'm always shocked when I see how the old stuff stands up to abuse, however, my dad used the cheapest stuff he could find to do a repair, if it was ever repaired.
Just a different te and things were made differently, I guess
So many problems seems to me they always needed alot of maintance.
“A spectacular fail” lmfao!
You guys must have a ton or scrap metal at your shop here in Ohio they are paying 180.00 a ton
"Spectacular fail" - Shows picture of wife's childhood... So, how long you relegated to the couch?
Wow
Have you ever seen or heard of Aironado rv
Some of those things make alot of noise.
Ya just can't hear it.