The CELL That NEVER DIED In Dragon Ball Z
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2023
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There is a version of Cell that never died in Dragon Ball Z. This is the Cell of the Unseen timeline. The Cell from the original timeline was killed by Super Saiyan 2 Gohan in the father-son kamehameha. The Cell from the history of trunks timeline was killed by Future Trunks when he returned. The Cell from the main timeline was killed by Future Trunks and Krillin in Dr. Gero's lab. But what about the Cell from the Unseen timeline? Qaaman explains it in this anime and manga related video about the villain cell from Dragon Ball Z. - บันเทิง
Honestly cell never needed his perfect form, if he had simply trained for a few months like frieza he would literally be unstoppable since cell even in his first form was already far beyond frieza at his full power so if he trained for 4 months he would be far stronger than frieza during resurrection F. He also has saiyan genetics meaning his gains would be even more than what he could get with just frieza and king colds genetics.
Yeah Cell was already extremely powerful,but Gero had a grudge with 17 and 18 so he put had to make absorbing them apart of cell's programming.
BIG FACTS!!!!! 💯
This would make a dope what if scenario type of movie, golden or black version of Cell like frieza, but in his first form that looks menacing and sounds creepy lol
Yea but the whole frieza potential thing didn't come into place until Super came.
I don't think it's fair to say what somebody could've did when said ability didn't come out until 30 hrs later lol.
Maybe, tho Cell is a bio android
We don't know his full biology
Maybe Gero hacked his "cells"
Made it so his PL would cap
At a certain number and
Only way Cell can gain 🦾
Is through special summons like
Absorption 😎
Seeing the “behind the scenes” of you putting these videos together makes me appreciate them even more. Keep up the great content 💯
fr in a way i learned more about editing
My headcanon on what happened in the unseen timeline:
Age 767 - The Z Fighters shut down the androids using the shutdown device. Since there are no cell in this timeline (except for the baby Cell in the lab), the Z Fighters are weaker as they enter the Buu arc.
Age 767 (shortly after shutting down the androids) - The events of the Super Android 13 movie take place.
Age 774 - The Buu arc begins. Since Goku doesn't die, he only manages to ascend to Super Saiyan 2 and not Super Saiyan 3. However, without Goku's death in this timeline, Vegeta isn't in a rush to fight him because he doesn't have the 24-hour limit to stay on Earth that Babidi gave him in the main timeline. As a result, Vegeta doesn't go Majin and fight Goku. Instead, they go straight to Babidi and Dabura, defeating them before Buu hatches, similar to how Future Trunks did.
As for "Super," it gets tricky. If Beerus were to show up, Goku and everyone else would be weaker than in the main timeline. Goku's strongest form in this timeline is Super Saiyan 2, not 3, because he never died and trained in the Other World for 7 years. Beerus would effortlessly defeat everyone, and I doubt Goku would achieve Super Saiyan God in this timeline. In my opinion, "Battle of Gods" and none of the events from Super happened in this timeline.
Age 788 - Assuming Goku and the Z Fighters are still alive at this point, Cell finally emerges from the lab. By this time, Goku and Vegeta could have possibly found a new form beyond Super Saiyan 2, assuming they survived the events between the Buu arc and Age 788. I think they would easily Cell, even if they are weaker than their main timeline counterparts. I'd like to believe that both Goku and Vegeta would have achieved at least Super Saiyan 3 by Age 788. After all, we're talking Age 788, which is 14 years of training post-Buu arc.
What about Gohan then?
@@QaamansLand without any threats to the world, it's safe to assume Gohan becomes a scholar as Chi Chi wished. Of course there would be no training and no SSJ2.
If they couldn’t fight beerus , would the earth still be there ?
I was literally binging your future timeline videos and i found it funny how you release one 24 minutes later
Which ones did you watch?
Another great video as always. I do wish we got for content from the anime on the unseen timeline. But given that the alternative timelines give headaches as it is, the unseen timeline is best to No see lol
Awesome stream, btw can you make a video on what could’ve happened to cells timeline after cell left it.
I already have that video planned
Great video Qaaman. There are so many timelines in Dragonball. Akira Toriyama and Toei should make an official Dragonball Encyclopedia Guidebook where it shows all the timelines in Dragonball. The Dragonball timeline keeps expanding with all these time rings.
That kind of already exists.
@@QaamansLand Oh it does what is the book called?
@@Eric-gp3hi Not a book, it's a website.
@@Eric-gp3hi here you go https : // pbs. twimg. com/ media/ Cv7LWLIVUAARaH0? format= jpg&name=orig
@@nworder4life What’s the website called?
Dude I'm not even a huge dragon ball z fan😂 your just so good at talking heck even great at explaining and analyzing to a point where i got interested in your videos...
Qaaman you're the goat!
Great Video Q
Reason?
@@QaamansLandVery indepth and your explanations are easy to understand.
0:20 When Qaaman drops that updated Alternate Timeline Theory video in the future, its going to hit like crack in the '80s.
Why the 80's?
Qaaman always has great content.
Reason? I'd appreciate some feedback. Thanks
@QaamansLand Good topics. In-depth theories. Videos usually have a nice chill vibe.
What do you think of the editing?
@QaamansLand Top notch work, sir.
5:50 Kami only agreed to fuse with Piccolo because of time-travelling Cell. So if there is a timeline where that version of Cell isn't present, I doubt he'd agree to it.
If we say Gero had more time to work on 17 & 18 to make them more sadistic, and that's why they go around killing people for fun (as opposed to the main timeline where, as Kami points out, they haven't done anything bad yet, just defended themselves). And because of them being killers, Kami would be more agreeable to fusion.... we still need to factor in that Piccolo was the first (or was it second?) to die to the android. Which means he likely died in his first encounter with them. Not giving him a chance to lick his wounds and go ask Kami to fuse.
I just don't see a scenario where Kami agrees to fuse just because of 17 & 18. Or that they would let Piccolo live long enough for him to even ask Kami.
You just gave a good video idea.
@@QaamansLand Sweeeet!!
I always assumed the unseen timeline was the Goku Black timeline. That ties everything up pretty neatly.
Well might be the case but unfortunately we'll never get an explanation for that.
@@link7449 Probably not, but it makes a *_lot_* of sense, so I'll just maintain that headcanon and bid you a nice day.
The unseen timeline is pretty much the original present to timeline 3 future where cell is from. The unseen timeline plays out exactly as the main timeline with trunks going back in time K!lling frieza and his father. Android 19 and 16 exist, and 16,17, and 18 are deactivated by the shutdown remote trunks and krillin found. Cell just wasn’t the main villain. Trunks went back to his timeline shutdown 17 and 18, cell k!lls trunks and take his time machine accidentally traveling back further in time a year before frieza arrived on earth which created alternate timelines “ the main timeline and timeline 2 with the trunks we know.
@@MrBGP006 Yeah, and so the unseen timeline is basically identical to the Light timeline up until Future Trunks' (lack of) reappearance. This includes the U6 Tournament, and therefore Zamasu puts his plan into motion.
@@MrBGP006 goku dies in the unseen one too
i dont think the timelines are all the same up until "x happens"(trunks arrives in the past for example) because in our main timeline we also had gero and 19 as androids,i doubt gero started developing them during the time the z fighters were training for the actual androids,just seems like it would take more time
They are. I explained it in another video.
Lol no I think he means the writer keeps forgetting and making things up so it doesn't matter what we think lolol
@@bryankennedy3719 no,i genuinelly think the timelines were different from the beginning intentionally,even before future trunks came to the present timeline
GREAT 👌 QAAMAN CELL NEVER DIE EVER VIDEO.
A updated timeline video would be amazing
This is the best explanation to the unseen timeline. I've seen couple of videos and even look up the Dragon Ball wiki, there is a translation and quote from the Daizenshuu guidebook about Timeline 4, which I believe is wrongly explained. In the guidebook it said "Cell Game begins without the presence of Trunks", which seems odd to me as Cell is not supposed to become perfect in this timeline. I assume the androids were already destroyed by the stop device before Future Trunks heading back to his timeline.
I never understood where this Cell came from until today. Now, I do. Thanks!
How strong would the main timeline cell be? The one that Trunks and krillen kill? Trunks says the the main timeline 17 and 18 are stronger then his verison. So would the main timeline cell be stronger and there for, the prefect version be stronger too? It's a cool what-if.
I have a video on this
@@QaamansLand oh word
I’d say he is more powerful. Since 17 & 18 were stronger then he would need to be to be able to overtake them & absorb them
I don't think 17 & 18 are stronger in any particular timeline. Trunks just doesn't know the extent of their power as the androids in his timeline constantly hold back just to toy with him. They caught Gohan off gaurd with this exact thing. Gohan trained for a year thinking he'd trained enough to be stronger than them. Stronger than the power they showed the last time he'd fought them. Only for 17 to say he was holding back and only using 50% of his power.
Bulma even calls out Trunks' naivety when he thinks he can take them on. Only for him to be defeated and left for dead. Bulma had to go find his unconscious body and he was in a coma for days because of it. Trunks is unreliable, inexperienced, and naive. If 17 & 18 had gone full power on him... he'd end up like Gohan. Dead.
The androids in the main timeline were defending themselves. Not toying around (well, 18 was arguably toying with Vegeta). And were facing more powerful versions of the heroes. So more excessive force would be needed to put them down. Most of the heroes were put down in a single blow. So yeah, there is a change in attitude for the androids, but I highly doubt there was a change in power.
@@EndoScorpionRemember when Cell told Piccolo about the bug drones? I bet they were watching the Z-Fighters train for the 3 years after Future Trunks warned them. They were most likely must stronger than their future counterparts and the drones saw all of their progress. So Gero stopped looking at the data after Vegeta left Earth but the drones were still collecting data and it was put into Cell by the computer. So whose to say the data wasn’t given to 17 and 18?
Your in-depth Cell/Trunk Alternate Timelines video from several years ago is one of my favorite YT videos, so to see this topic of the Missing Cell brought back up is awesome!
The ads make this feel so nostalgic, the eye catches really make it authentic
We can't say with much certainty what exactly happens in the unseen timeline, interstingly it's been said that Trunks simply travelling through time and taking care of Frieza he creates a butterfly effect that changes the way the timeline develops. This means that most likely, the timeline we see in the show has an additional butterfly effect from Cell showing up which doesn't happen in the unseen timeline.
This makes it impossible for us to say how the androids behaved, whether 19 and 20 were there, if 16 is activated and if they are ultimately defeated or deactivated. I am personally leaning towards Goku destroying the androids and Trunks training until he can take the androids in his own timeline, Cell explains his murder on Trunks as an assassination while Trunks' guard was dowm making it seem like he couldn't have taken Trunks on equal grounds.
So I guess the Cell in the unseen timeline could be alive, or the Briefs might have just gone to Gero's lab to snoop around after all was said and done and abort cell when they stumble on him on the spot.
I assumed it was cause trunks traveling through time caused a bit of a change(Butterfly affect). On the other hand I don't like the idea that Goku was just "destined" to die at the heart virus. Time travel hurts my head even if I like the idea.
Of course I enjoyed this video ❤❤❤
Why?
@@QaamansLand again well I couldn’t explain stuff about dragon ball the way experts can like you Danny from geekdom101 totally not mark and Mike from laughing stock media even though like some people in the fandom well I don’t want to compare myself to them I try to be open minded with the sub version of dragon ball oh I forgot one more guy I love Jordan the dragon lee I love dragon ball experts
I remember you did a video like this.
I'm so confused... and I love it😂. I have to watch this unseen timeline video
You lost me bro.
I tried so hard and got so far...
Same I had to rewatch the video from like 5 years ago just to keep up
@@QaamansLandin the end it doesn't even matter...
No problem buddy , you got yourself a new subscriber 😉
The guidebook says Gohan still killed Cell in the unseen timeline, believe it even says Cell Games. He’d just be imperfect, and it would be a while later.
I could’ve sworn you did this as a live stream
Lol trolling?
@@QaamansLandno I saw a live stream notification but I was at a party =_= so I couldn’t watch it
@@LuigiNico73officalIt was a premier i think.
It was a live stream. I made a stream of me editing this
Them fart streams paying off. My man Q cooked with this one.
Cell could have gone to uni and majored in super science robotics to make his own power cores to absorb 😂 I mean there has to be extra copies of the android blueprints laying around somewhere in the sublevel of the lab.
I'm so damn confused about all these timelines. Can you do a timeline breakdown video and have it be as clear n concise as possible
Did you watch the video? I told you about several videos I did In the outro that discuss this.
@@QaamansLand I did watch it and everytime I watch videos and the unseen timeline and original timeline and all that is mentioned I just can't follow it haha I need like the definitive timeline guide with a chart etc
take a shot every time he says time line
I think Future Trunks may have been successful in destroying that Cell you were talking about. We have no indication to determine so we can only guess and I guess exactly that. As for #16 I think he was always meant to exist because my theory is that #16 appearance is identical to Gero's son that was killed by Goku. The thing is that he was activated only in a single timeline and it's unclear what happened to him in the rest. Now in terms of Cell- If Kuririn deactivated #18 or Bejita killed him in his Semi-Perfect form then Super #13 and the OG Broly movie would make more sense.
That's why I explained both potential outcomes.
@@QaamansLand Yes I know and you explained well. I am just telling in which outcome I support. Another theory I forgot to say about #16- In the manga Commander Red mentions General Copper. Been a long time since I've seen this part of the anime so I don't remember if in the anime as well but either way we don't see him in neither. What if General Copper was actually Dr. Gero's son? Just a theory.
@@icarusflys6856 The Japanese real superior way to say the name of the one everyone knows as Vegeta. The dub is disrespecting the names as they intended to be. Examples: Yamucha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, Piccoro Jr., Bejita, Buruma (Bulma), Puaru (Puar), Uron (Oolong).
@@icarusflys6856 Maybe but still incorrect. I recommend you will watch the Japanese with English subs. When you hear the names spoken ignore the subs for a moment and you will see that I am right.
Future trunks couldn't even beat Debora in sjj 1 😭
I have to watch your massive timeline video at least once a year to remember how it goes. I think my brain's just too small to retain all that knowledge.😂
This made my head hurt😵💫😵💫😵💫
I'm pretty sure that when Trunks and Krillin went to get the Androids' blueprints in the unseen timeline, they didn't leave an unknown creature floating in that liquid in peace. They'd never take that chance with a creation of Dr Gero's. I bet they destroyed the lab before leaving. And even if they didn't, the unseen timeline was probably ravaged by Babidi a few years later, so still that Cell had little hope of surviving.
babidi only comes to earth cause sensed ssj2 and super perfect cells power levels
the beam struggle was the icing on the cake for him
without ssj2 power buu will never be awakened
I never had any doubt everything worked out fine in the unseen timeline. Goku’s a fucking fighting genius. The only reason everything in the dark timelines wound up so horrible is because Goku died from the heart virus.
If Super somehow manages to happen, and a DIFFERENT Trunks came to that timeline because of Black (which is VERY unlikely, but possible), it is possible that Cell could've hidden himself away until Bulma made a new time machine, and used that to go to some 5th timeline.
Unseen timeline=main timeline without a time traveling cell, that’s the easiest way to describe it
This was confusing. But I was able to work it out drawing 4 timeline visuals. Basically original future trunks travels to unseen timeline kills Frieza and warns the the z fighters of the of the Androids. Events play out the same until Piccolo merges with Kame. Cell had not traveled to that timeline. Between Piccolo and the shut down device they defeat the Androids in the unseen timeline. Original future trunks goes back to his timeline with the shut down device and destroys the Androids. As he goes to travel back to see his the z fighters in the unseen timeline he's killed by cell from the original timeline. Cell travels to the main timeline making himself known while future trunks is still there branching into two timelines. Since the cell was growing in the lab in the unseen timeline and wasn't destroyed he grew and hatched into the unseen timeline where the z fighters were all still alive and the Androids were destroyed.
Curious though if the z fighters went and got Dende in this unseen timeline could Cell have collected the Dragon Balls and wished for his perfect form? I mean in all likelyhood he would be aware of their existence considering he knew about Piccolo as well as the fact that originally they were the Red Ribbon Armys primary goal.
I don’t think Shenron could just turn him into Perfect Cell, otherwise he should have been able to kill Nappa and Vegeta, before they came to Earth, but he should be able to revive the Androids.
@@jeremygott7709 you bring up a good point he could wish back 17 and 18 so he could absorb them
2 Streams to get it done
Think Cell would've been stronger if he had the genes of Picollo/Kami Fusion as a base instead of just Picollo himself. Well when he did run into the fusion later he did comment it as "You ARE the Fusion of Kami and Picollo!" as if he was surprised.
Have you seen spellcommander’s 25 timelines video?
Huh?
Yeah he proved that dragon ball actually has 25 time lines, and not what toriyama said which was 6 by the time the goku black arc ended, he used the rules and lore that the series itself established to be how time travel works, and with it showed that because of what had happened there, then that should mean that there are 25 timelines, it’s a very cool video that I’ve seen many times, I recommend you see it too because of how informative it was. @@QaamansLand
1) They ascended because Vegeta lost and survived.
Thus, realizing that there is another level of Super Saiyan.
So Vegeta either didn't fight the Androids or he didn't lose.
Which also, indicates that Piccolo either didn't fight the Androids or he didn't lose. So, therefore, Piccolo didn't merge with Kami because there was no need for it.
2) Babidi came after the annihilation of the Androids in both time lines.
Which means Babidi won't show up until after Cell wakes up.
3) Cell wakes up 20 years later.
Which means Goku and friends has 20 years to level up.
4) We already seen how powerful Cell is when he wakes up. So we know how powerful he is when he wakes up.
So the Cell that never died is going to be running around like a little chicken for the rest of his life. It's been 20 years. Goku and Vegeta isn't like Gohan. Even if they never ascend, they are still going to level up their base drastically. In 20 years, Cell is nothing to them, even in their base forms. Now, if Cell realizes his Frieza cell and trains, then he becomes a threat. But I doubt he would realize that. His plans are going to be running around and absorbing bio energy. But when that is not enough, he'll get desperate and try one of Goku's friends, only to get his ass whooped and probably killed. Remember, it's been 20 years. 18 isn't there so Krillin probably still trains. Everyone still trains. Then when Babidi shows up. they get wrecked. It's more than 20 years, not 7 years. Probably 27 years. Remember, it was 7 years after Cell's death before Babidi showed up. And in the Future Time Line, it was 10 years after Cell's death before Future Babidi showed up. So in the unseen time line, it takes 20 years for Cell to wake up after 17 and 18 are defeated. Because it takes 20 years for Cell to develop and wake up. Then it takes another 7-10 years after Cell's death for Babidi to show up. By then, they are too strong for these guys, even if they only have Super Saiyan.
Plot hole 1: assuming that future trunks has a way to communicate with alternate timelines, which are in essence alternate dimensions. Plot hole 2: SSJ 1 Gohan was enough power to charge Buu halfway; assuming that Bobidi would not find out the evil in Vegetas heart and still find a way to pit Goku vs Vegeta, which Vegeta could have been stronger since he was demoralized for a while by Gohan defeating Cell and Goku dying.
That flash back vs trunks is the only time you see that nasty nasty big larva form cell , been trying to find that episode but i know its during perfect cell vs trunks
Hey Qaaman, if Trunks used the time machine to travel from age 768 to age 775 after Gohan beat Cell, would he still be in the main timeline? Would it be a branch timeline of the main timeline from that point?
Which Trunks?
Future Trunks, from the HoT timeline@@QaamansLand
A "dark timeline" wouldn't be all too bad for Cell.
He'd doubtless be frustrated he didn't have access to the androids, but that'd leave him as one of the strongest creatures in the universe regardless. I imagine he'd venture from planet to planet (since he couldn't get his food on Earth) and suck the inhabitants dry.
An interesting question, IMO, is whether Imperfect Cell could have become as strong as Perfect Cell with enough time.
I like to imagine a timeline where Krillin accidentally presses the button while breaking the remote and de-activates 18 lol
Super Perfect cell was awesome 😎
Bruh we need those full colour Cell saga manga panels.
Much more ennoyable than DBZ Kai anime.
Super timeline cell was the "perfect"way to have cell back in dbssh
I like your funny words, magic men
What was funny?
Just confused
Nothing wrong with your content
If the androids were just bandits I don't think things would have gotten desperate enough for Trunks to time travel. Also didn't Kami agree to fuse with Piccolo because he knew about Cell?
Edit: Wait nevermind I got confused, the unseen timeline is where the dead trunks got the remote to deactivate the androids from right?
Another odd bit, why didn't Trunks know about 16. In his time, Goku died. Since 16 would have noticed that Goku wasn't around, he wouldn't have gone around with 17 and 18. There is probably a hermit style 16 living in the woods communing with animals, similar to how 17 went of to save animals once he quit fighting.
Imagine cell black orange beast. The 3 forms which require no god ki. With 10 years of training, he'd be too powerful to the point that goku, piccolo, gohan, vegeta and brolly would have to do a four way fusion just to fight him.... I can imagine them using the giant dragon balls to stabilize and have that fusion indefinitely.
Call from the original time line is the same cell, the same one that killed trucks in another time line
Did we ever get confirmation that the unseen timeline Trunks went back to the future before killing his androids? Maybe bulma figured out how to make the deactivation remote on her own, trunks killed the androids and was then going to go back in time to tell everyone about said remote and change their timeline.
Yes because Trunks' conversation with Goku is exactly the same along with him coming back.
They showed the trunks getting killed by cell in the future talking to goku in the past? I must have missed that part.
@@Prime92 No but the timelines are identical.
It is possible that Goku black stole Goku’s body from the unseen timeline
Unseen Cell coulda trained, to stand a chance against the Unseen Z Fighters.
He probably went on to create a paradox.
If you think about it android 16 is only randomly activated because of future cell who becomes perfect travels back to the past.. him killing future trunks who travelled first.. actually made little changes so by the time the 2nd future trunks travels back again he gets to understand why shit is different
We actually do know the state of the unseen timeline, if you extrapolate from what we see in the main timeline.
1. In the unseen timeline, the next major event after the androids is the Buu saga, because Cell doesn't happen. Thing is, everyone's a lot weaker at that point, so while Babidi likely still attacks the planet, he just can't get enough energy to awaken Majin Buu. Dabura is still a significant threat here but without Buu, Babidi doesn't really have a reason to stick around.
2. Next up is technically Tarble's visit, if you count that. Abo and Cado are still easily dispatched, but either Goku or Vegeta does it as Goten and Kid Trunks don't have the training.
3. Now we get to the big problem point for the unseen timeline. Beerus. Goku might still be able to do the Super Saiyan God ritual, but he wouldn't have had quite the same power base to work with in that form. That being said, without Buu, Beerus doesn't get pissed off by not being able to have any pudding, so maybe Earth survives this? I don't think Beerus and Whis would be convinced to train Goku and Vegeta in this timeline, though.
4. Resurrection F time, and yeah... if Earth isn't destroyed by Beerus, it's destroyed by Frieza. Without SSJB, Goku and Vegeta have no hope in beating Frieza. Goku might be able to stall Frieza out until the form wears out, but then Frieza would just destroy the planet, and without being on speaking terms with Whis, there's no way to revert the damage.
5. No Earth means no Universal Tournament.
6. No Goku means Zamasu isn't quite pushed over the edge.
7. No Universal Tournament means No Tournament of Power, and no Tournament of Power means that all but four universes are erased. Or it means there's no erasure at all, depends on if Future Zeno was a catalyst for that idea.
8. Regardless if Universe 7 still exists, Earth won't, so cell doesn't get a chance to show up.
This isn't even random, really. A lot of the events of DBZ and DBS happened due to things outside of the butterfly effect. Cell not showing up isn't going to cause Beerus to not wake up, since he was on a timer he set long before the events of the Cell saga.
Maybe I missed something, but what would prevent Goku from succumbing to the heart virus in the unseen timeline?
It'd be similar to the main timeline in which Trunks came form the future to warn of the looming threats and give the heart medication. The major difference is that in the hidden timeline, Cell didn't come from the future to sidetrack the story to be more about him, lol.
Remember the thing that changed the prime timeline wasn't Trunks going to the future to tell Goku he died, it was Cell coming to the future before that. When the original Cell killed Trunks he goes to the future but he has to go to a time before Trunks arrived because he has to go into a larval state again and needs time to grow to his normal size again. God I hate time travel paradox.
Well, you said the word "Timeline," many times, so we can't argue with that logic.
Before watching, I'm assuming this is the version of Cell native to the timeline that was saved by the version of Trunks native to the timeline that Perfect Cell came from.
Dude just for the Cell saga to be possible there is the need for 7 different timelines.
What I never got was Future Trunks knows about King Kia why did Trunks or any of the Dead Z fighters as King Kia to ask the Namekians to wish everyone killed by the androids and Cell back to life (we can assume the Namekians did what the main timeline ones did make it so their set of dragon balls could wish back more then one at a time).
i wouldve loved to have a dragonball where one imperfect cell absorbed bio broly.
that cell would have ikari power, but would be genetically impaired. hence being able to fight on a god level but eventually self-destruct. but would be a trouble for everyone
0:25 I just watch that 8 months ago
Hey Qaaman have you ever seen Plague Of Gripes video on the many timelines in Dragon Ball? It's essentially a more complicated version of your old timeline video. It also includes the Goku Black Arc. I think by the end of it he concluded that there should be at least 12 timelines in Dragon Ball now. The video was taken down for copyright but you can easily find a reupload of it. I think it's worth a watch.
No but if you find it let me know. I have spoken to him a few times.
@@QaamansLand Just type in Plague of Gripes timeline video on TH-cam and it should be the first result.
Something I never understood is why does Trunks from the unseen timeline, need to go back in time to tell everyone that he beat the androids? It's just strange because this Trunks, never met the others from the past so it makes no sense why he has that motivation.
Dragon Ball time travel is so confusing, and makes very little sense.
In this unseen timeline its most likely 17 & 18 were defeated somehow. I still think Gohan trained with Piccolo & Goku for the 3 years as he did in the main timeline.
Now going off the time skip. Gohan obviously wouldn’t have ssj2, but I do think he’d eventually learn ssj. As for Goku & Vegeta, they would most definitely have learned ssj2 in the amount of time that passed.
I think the only difference here would be Dabura, he’d pose as the perfect cell giving them a bit of trouble, but ultimately defeating him. Imperfect cell would of course be killed to when he hatches.
As for buu, that’s a completely different story. Depending on the fight with Dabura I think determines if babidi would even get enough energy for buu to hatch. Not to mention what the supreme Kai’s would do.
I honestly believe Goku & Vegeta would listen to supreme Kai & not let buu hatch. Since Vegeta would more than likely be his Dragon Ball Super character earlier in the series & not look to fight Goku because they’d have plenty of time to fight in the time skips.
what if trunks found out how to deactivate the androids in the future and was planning to return to the past to deactivate them, before cell killed him
Didnt future trunks from super fight off Babidi? Maybe Babidi just doesnt show up at the same time he did during main timeline in the unseen one if the gang is not strong enough. Also the main what if question for goku not dying during cell saga is just how strong do he and vegeta get as rivals on earth.
Take a shot every time he says timeline
I drank a shot of alcohol every time QUAAMAN said "Timeline" and I got alcohol poisoning.
How do you spell Qaaman?
@@QaamansLand Questions And Answers Man
Pretty sure that only 3 timelines were necessary for the events of the cell saga. The original timeline, which I will call the Zero Saiyan timeline, where Trunks goes back and forth in time, and is killed by Cell. Future Trunk's timeline, where he kills cell after returning from the events in the past. The final timeline is the one we see, which takes place after cell has returned from the zero saiyan timeline.
The Zero Saiyan timeline is created when Dr Gero's lab is destroyed by the Androids, but the computer under his Laboratory remains intact, and finishes creating Cell in secret. Cell is only able to make it to the visible timeline, because Trunks of the Zero Saiyan timeline prepares the time machine to investigate the temporal anomaly, thus creating the perfect conditions for the anomaly to occur as cell travels to the visible timeline.
However there could be more timelines, three is just the bare minimum number reasonably necessary to have the events of the Cell saga make sense, but time travel never makes sense though.
Yeah unseen timeline remains the same until when your supposed to meet cell, except there is no cell. Krillin and trunks go to gero's lab to find a weakness to the androids. Now we see in the main timeline that they find plans for #17 almost right in front of cells pod, so it stands to reason that they still would search for a secret room or floor even if they didn't meet cell. So I doubt they would just leave an experiment alone. Also this would freak trunks out discovering something else could be lurking in his timeline. So trunks would go to the bulma of the unseen timeline, get her to make a shutdown device, then he would take it to his time, defeat the androids, and search for the to him unnamed experiment cell. Cell kills this trunks, goes back in time, and alters the already altered timeline to become the main timeline we know. This scenario potentially leaves the unseen timeline without a working shutdown device, but presumably vegeta is training in the R.O.S.T. , and can come out and one-shot the androids. And with no cell to worry about, everything's good plus kami is still around.......
Bro I’ve been wondering this for 20 years 🤣🤣🤣
Also could anybody tell me how turles ended up with the seed of the tree of might if he didn’t know about the dragon balls
This is another Cell question/topic that doesn't really relate to this one, but I always had one question about the Cell we saw in the anime. Was it Cell's intention to absorb the androids ASAP or did he plan on drinking the local population dry first? I ask because Piccolo was stronger than Cell I'm their first encounter until Cell got the jump on him, and even then, he feared for his life once he saw Piccolo could regenerate his arm.
That same Piccolo got his butt handed to him by the Androids and could match 17 blow for blow once he had fuzed with Kami. To put it short, Cell would've been splattered across the landscape if he wanted to find the Androids immediately. He might've been spared by the Androids if they didn't take him as a threat seriously, since our timeliness Androids don't seem malicious.
The Androids, Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks all could've dealt with Cell if they simply had a radio turned on and listened to some cities being reportedly destroyed. Cell is obviously cunning, but i couldn't imagine him draining more than a few buildings before word spread and chaos ensued. I'm not saying it's impossible, but Cell is very lucky that he got as far as he did in the timeline we're following.
Wasn't that after Picollo had fused with Kami? Meaning he was stronger than the Picollo that Cell's base structure had.
@@blackzero786 You're right. I'm misremembering the order of events. I thought Piccolo fusing with Kami was closer to mid point of the saga where they were running out of options. My thought process was Unfused Piccolo spanked 'Imperfect Cell' in their first encounter and Cell surpassing Fused Piccolo was to further emphasize how much stronger Cell has really gotten.
Is anyone else struggling not to hear Bob Belcher?
-goku and vegeta would never stop training. They would attain ssj2 with time.
-buu most likely would never wake up. Babidi would come later.
-if babidi and dabura came, then there wouldn't be majin vegeta and they probably would be able to stop buu from waking up.
-if not, they would use the chamber for training. Including possibly gohan.
-they would kill dabura and babidi and that's it.
-super would happen more or less the same.
Sincerely, everything would go way better without cell and buu.
I think original trunks would have killed unseen cell because i don't think he would have let anything live in gero's lab
I do think that the existence of the unseen timeline is cool, but are you sure trunks must have used a shutdown device? it is possible for cell in imperfect form to completely overpower the androids just by absorbing human food, so it doesn't seem necessary for trunks to have a device to just clear the power gap between him and the androids without surpassing imperfect cell who has been feeding.
I explained everything more in depth on other videos. This video is not about time travel so I didn't go too deep
That cell was killed in the future timeline in the ending of dragon ball z cell there’s a scene when trunks is back in the future and cell runs into him and they both face off and trunks killed cell
Trunks managed to beat Dabura and babidi by randomly going ssj2 so more than likely one of them would do the same.
Wouldn't this cell have babidi's and dabura's cells? If he was stronger than frieza and cold when he was born what if he was similar to dabura in power level thanks to having his cells?
Cell gotta come back just you watch
Tldr: the unseen timeline is what we would have gotten if cell never shown up like the show we saw
Sort of.
7:13 I seriously doubt this, since the 7 year peace saga of Z confirmed that Goku would have kept up his training, which would have transcended him to ssj 2 and ssj3. Although he was dead in the afterlife, he was able to keep his mortal body.
If Goku never died in the unseen timeline, he would continued his training as he did when in other world and would have reached ssj2 and SSJ3. He would have been plenty strong enough to defeat majin buu. Also, the events with the supreme kai would have likely played out the same, except no fusions. Gohan would have gotten his potential unlocked and buu would be dead.
Also, with Goku being alive, beerus would have shown up as well, playing out the same way as battle of gods.
Once Cell leaves his pod from the lab, he's pratically be childs play for the z team.
Essentially, nearly every event in the unseen timeline would have matched the same plot of the buu story, battle of gods saga, and tournament of power. Except no future zamasu story would exist since the original future trunks is dead.
If you actually think about it the goku from the namek/freiza saga is a different version from the android saga… so basically the entire cast we had been following up till trunks showed up are dead from the androids and heart virus
What do you mean? Goku is the exact same up until Trunks not arriving after the Namek Arc.
First timeline we get Future trunks/ cell in pod, Second timeline is because future Trunks returned to warn of androids. Third timeline is cell killing trunks and returning to past ending up in the Second Timeline. First timeline continues and Cell dies because of another incarnation of him telling Trunks about his death.
So where the fourth and unseen timeline?
This was very confusing until I realised it was just a what-if scenario. And not relevant to the actual canon, as there are only 3 timelines (ignoring Super). You talked the entire time as if it was part of the canon and it really left me unsure what you were talking about until the end of the video. The way time works means there's no need for a 4th.
We all know that Krillin took care of 18 in the other timelines
How strong was imperfect cell if he managed to defeat trunks In his timeline before weakening himself to travel for the androids?