Chris, the b-king has the exact same engine as the hayabusa. Same camshafts and compression ratio! Power is reduced thanks to a small airbox, exhaust system and eсu settings.
its was just bad luck /timing. the bike was brought to the USA the same year that there was a huge economic recession. Everyone was broke, people were loosing the homes, and the war in Afghanistan had a big surge. I wanted one so bad, but I had to cancel my order because I got sent back to Afghanistan. By the time I got back home in 2019, the bike was discontinued in the USA because it didn't sell. I will own one one day. I also want the Yoshimura undertail exhaust for it, but that also is no longer in production, so it will be super expensive again.
Can you do some "deep dive" vids on trans and clutch tuning/mods? Progressing from stock to mild to wild upgrades, how they impact drag racing and how they differ at the launch? Highlighting an older grudge bike would be cool and not give away anything super new.
One of the funniest funnest crazy motorcycles I have ever owned. If I remember right, the B-KING had different gearing than the Hayabusa. Mine was an absolute rocket in 3rd gear.
My b-king with pc3usb, yoshimura slip ons made 172 hp with the Dynojet map, 178 with a dyno tune. Same motor as gen 2 Busa except for the smaller air box and no ram air.
Love my BKing. Guessing you didnt break the bad news he would still pull better numbers with a full length exhaust and alot less fiddling to get that shorty to produce #s.
Thank you and show us how lean the gen3 sitting in my garage apart waiting on my alienhead 2 to arrive is lean wise. Because I will drain the gas and have her sit for 8 more months if I have to, to wait for an ecu flash so she doesn't knock or burn to lean. This sir is important!
Chris if you'd like the true potential of the bike do the airbox mod aswell as a hayabusa map and then you'll see some serious gains...garion did mine here in south Africa I'm 20hp up from the day he first saw my bike
dude, I haven't watched the video yet, I just want to say I have never clicked on a video this fast before. I been looking for a B-king for over a year, just to send it to you. My Plan is to have the bike shipped to you (when I find one) and then pick it up and ride it back to Kentucky. I'll contact you once I purchase one. Back to the video.
got lucky and found mine at the shop i go to. was being sold on commission and i nagged the dealership to nag the owner to sign it over with cash offer ready to go.. There was a line of people tryna get their hands on it.
I really like this 2022 HAYABUSA And the contest of the your TH-cam channel is very nice the content wont get any other TH-cam channels i am really a greate lover of the 2022 hayabusha it is my bream bike......
Still a couple of hp down on a completely stock VMAX. Flashed with airbox mod & filter and decat exhaust is 197-200 for a VMAX. And the VMAX is a far better ride than the naked Hayabusa.
The vmax is also a 1700cc so not sure why you're comparing that to this bking thats a 1340cc. I guess if you want to make random comparisons a ninja h2 makes more power than a vmax and has a much smaller motor lol.
Actually the v-max only wanna go straight I dont see how would that equal to a better ride. Also if done right the king will put down 197 on the wheel so there is that. The key is in the airbox and the right fueling which was not done here. Same power from a 1/4 less cc for the same power but less weight I think it is clear which one is a better bike.
So my buddy has a 2009 vmax that made 177 whp and 121wtq with full voodoo, flash, air filter and tune. It’s a freaking rocket don’t get me wrong. But from a 30 roll the bking stays out ahead the whole time. Now from a 0 it’s much harder for me to keep my bike down. The vmax is super easy to launch due to it being almost 900lbs. So to answer the question. Is the vmax faster than the bking? The answer I no. It makes the same wheel power and weighs 200lbs more. Remember whatever you read “200hp” after going through the shaft drive your not getting nearly that. The power is about the same as the bking with about 15lbs of tq more but again the weight is much more.
@@danieldavis5583 Thats when you get a 240 tire on it. I'm not saying I dont smoke the tire from a dig if I open up as low as 4K but it helps a hell of a lot. See my channel for examples. :)
The max is shaft drive. 10% more driveline loss and ass jacking. I have a B, and buddy has a Max. We swap and the B wins every time. 3-4 bikes to 130. Max can’t squat and plant the tire.
hey chris i now this is an older video but would it be hard to get the b-king engine to be like the hayabusa ? powerwise ... or would it be better too just swap in a haybusa block ? thx love the video,s and grudge content ! grtz from belgium !
Magic Mike was pumped up after them nuggets!!! I couldn't hear sh*t you were saying Big Bird cuz the B King was talking over you. Damn good numbers I thought & w a Vodoo. Makes you wonder if Voodoo really means doo doo??
It’s America mate. They’re professionals at ruining perfectly good bikes. Just look at all the fat tyre conversions and stretch swing arms for no reason.
Would it make even more power with a Brock's short meg or Alien Head? Either way, not too far off from a 2nd gen. We made 184 on pump gas with my 2nd gen.
Brought up a good point. Cuz Vodoo usually supposed to be on the bottom, w Brocks on top of food chain. (My understanding) then this B King did good now I'm confused. 😆
I have an 08 with the Yoshi slip on ex under the seat. Do I need to have anything done for the performance? Seems I lost a little hp. Thanks. One of the baddest bikes I own, right now.
Yes, the engine was lean from the factory. Changing the exhaust made the engine more lean, that is why you feel like you lost HP; you did lose some. Send him your ECU and see if he will use the same flash as this one. ANYTIME you change or modify the exhaust, you alter your fuel ratio, almost always for the worst.
@@briangc1972 I'v been tuning this bike with my WB O2 sensor and data logger and I have to say the factory fuel map is up to 15% too rich. Even with the airbox mod it will not run lean. As long as the exhaust valve is in the system changing the cans will not make a slightest difference as the valve is the choke point. Its the airbox that will make changes to the mixture. Loaded the Busas map in and it was up to 25% too rich with even more mods to the airbox. The Hayabusa itself running up to 15-20% too rich. I'm not sure where did you get this info but its incorrect.
Check the exhaust valve if it does open fully. When you put the ignition on the valve should do a full cycle. Dont start just watch if it moves the whole cycle.
Weight preference for me.....I like big bikes that cut through the wind and plenty of horses. I've had 600, 750s, I don't like anything under 1200cc ..heavier bikes more stabile
The b king is 1340cc the h2 is a 998cc. The busa engine is the best in the world. You can put the monnycin the b king you Pay for zh2 And the b king is mutch more brutal And the busa sound is a brutalis king of speed
Sprint is actually measurably better than all the rest, as they don't use cotton fiber and don't use oil, they filter massive amounts of air and are also very uniform and micronic.
It has the same engine as the Busa there is not one difference. Having a reputation to look after its a big mistake to claim otherwise. You have got to know the bike you are making a video on. The airbox is a lot smaller and the snorkels are a joke. There was no word on if the owner already did the airbox. STP's are closing controlled by the ECU @9200 in 5th and 8500 in 6th. The ignition is all dumbed down. Do the airbox right, Sprint filter it, fuel it, fix the STP and this baby will put down 200WHp but you will not gain 20-30HP just with an exhaust and a new fuel map. You have got to open up the airbox to get there. Promising this extra power to peeps just by via ECU flash is fraudulent.
Thanks for sharing the right knowledge brother. ^This is an sport touring bike...." he did not take 5 minutes to research the bike and make the tunning video.....
@@cabezamiami In other video he opens up the STP to 100% from idle. Sure way to lose a lot of low and mid-range torque. Been tuning mine with WB O2 sensor and data logger for the 9 years I had it. Modded the airbox way beyond the silicon hoses to the side and must have had around 20 different map made for every little change. This guy I dont know I wouldnt believe when hes asking a question. Here we dont actually know if the airbox was modified or not but it had to be to get even close to these numbers. I dont understand how can he sell this tune made for this one bike with unknown mods other than the exhaust to others and promise these numbers and that its safe for a stock setup.
Mines got an heal tech xtre. (not as good as a flash I know) .. But shes shocked at few sports bike riders.. . Zh2 would seem to be the natural progression. But I love mine to much
@@exothermal.sprocket gotcha.. 8k vs 25k? Lol..I don't even know if I can feel good about dropping that much money on a bike...if I had stupid money maybe
@@PopCulturzTV Personally I don't see any use for a ZH2. It's a novelty of "I've got a naked bike that's faster than your naked bike" from the likes of one-upsmanship Kawasaki. They've done this sort of thing a long time. Every category they try to top the horsepower. I'm more of a 115-130 horsepower is enough.
will never understand why anybody would run that type of exhaust. It's just STUPID.... Makes it WAY TO LOUD, a good quality tuned exhaust with muffler would make more power.
Crap. What a waste of video. Could not hear a thing he said over the noise, could not see the graphs because he jerks around so much, and if you freeze it the focus is still too bad to read. I had two B Kings in '08, one custom painted with the exhaust mod, and one stock. I spent most of my time on the stocker. I'll add a note or two here: That big tank is not the gas tank, it's the air box, the tank is lower for better balance and handling. My two sons rode it, but did not love it. Why? You might think this is weird, but they said it was no fun to ride a bike that you knew could beat anyone. More fun to ride like my 750 Magna and race bikes in the same class to 'work and fight for the win.'
Chris, the b-king has the exact same engine as the hayabusa. Same camshafts and compression ratio!
Power is reduced thanks to a small airbox, exhaust system and eсu settings.
That's right and was there a modification to the air box?
Yeah, what Alex said. Not that far off a busa. No ram air.
A lot more midrange power than the hayabusa, I’ve ridden both and the b king felt a lot faster without revving it to the redline in every gear etc
I want one. Badly. Is there an aftermarket airbox or something?
@@rm25088 Sadly no. Would be a really hot sale if someone finally would create one with a working RAM. Right now you have to modify it yourself.
Thats a whole lot of power for it being a “detuned” engine
The true king of the hyper naked bikes. I wish suzuki would bring it back. My God. They might as well they brought the busa back from the dead.
That’s a sleeper of a bike. Most people don’t know what it is. I remember when they came out. It’s a shame they never got popular.
its was just bad luck /timing. the bike was brought to the USA the same year that there was a huge economic recession. Everyone was broke, people were loosing the homes, and the war in Afghanistan had a big surge. I wanted one so bad, but I had to cancel my order because I got sent back to Afghanistan. By the time I got back home in 2019, the bike was discontinued in the USA because it didn't sell. I will own one one day. I also want the Yoshimura undertail exhaust for it, but that also is no longer in production, so it will be super expensive again.
@@killdozer3464 did you ever find one? I still have mine. If I sell it I’ll let you know, I’m getting to the age where I don’t ride as much.
Zard Italian dual exhaust under tail on mine, it's wonderful! @@killdozer3464
@@gregorym2121how much
Maybe they have that Vapor Effect. Overlooked and then all of a sudden Sigma. Lol...I'd love to have one. I love Harleys first. B Kehl
That is REALLY, REALLY impressive. Going up 30HP and almost 30 pounds of torque in the midrange is HUGE. I want to ride it now.
Surely suzuki will be bringing out a new B KING with the gen3 hard to imagine they won't considering how popular naked bike are
That's a fast hyper naked bike. I still believe they would sell like hot cakes now if Suzuki would reissue it. Just ahead of it's time.
They need to make another one it would kill
It would sell like crazy now. Hooligan naked bikes are all the rage now and this one would be the king. The Bking.
Can you do some "deep dive" vids on trans and clutch tuning/mods? Progressing from stock to mild to wild upgrades, how they impact drag racing and how they differ at the launch? Highlighting an older grudge bike would be cool and not give away anything super new.
One of the funniest funnest crazy motorcycles I have ever owned. If I remember right, the B-KING had different gearing than the Hayabusa. Mine was an absolute rocket in 3rd gear.
Nope exactly the same gearing, 18/43
The engines are exact to the busa. Cams are not different and compression also not. Airbox is smaller and no ram air. Thats why its making less power
Airbox mod is must
My b-king with pc3usb, yoshimura slip ons made 172 hp with the Dynojet map, 178 with a dyno tune. Same motor as gen 2 Busa except for the smaller air box and no ram air.
Can't wait to see the roll racing content. Keep up the good work Chris!
My dad had one a few years ago, really fun bike to ride.
Love my BKing. Guessing you didnt break the bad news he would still pull better numbers with a full length exhaust and alot less fiddling to get that shorty to produce #s.
Love how you put this video out while you are doing the podcast with EJR Performance...lol
Yeah I have the same bike rear but an amazing bike really fast bike
Owned one for a couple of years. Super comfy bikes, ample power. Best part no one knew what is was so I had loads of people trying me on that bike😂
Thank you and show us how lean the gen3 sitting in my garage apart waiting on my alienhead 2 to arrive is lean wise. Because I will drain the gas and have her sit for 8 more months if I have to, to wait for an ecu flash so she doesn't knock or burn to lean. This sir is important!
170 horse at the rear wheel is serious power. If I buy a B-king I'm bringing it to this guy.
B-king is the type of bike I need Straight up ride to save my lower back
My back likes it, better than my GSX1400 which was supposed to be a really comfortable bike.
Would love to see a b king build . Engine port polish, etc etc etc
Now thats one hell of a good tuning you did there.. As always .
The bling stock is a 9 second bike...I own one. For me....I don't need a ecu flash....it's crazy fast stock.😃
I also have one. It doesn't need more power imo. I have different pipes. Stock pipes are hideous
The B King was a super naked before they got ultra popular, bit heavy, but fantastic to ride 👍👍👍
Yeah, that bike looked like a tank!
Heavy compared to what??
@@jimstenlund6017 I have one. Heavy to push around and that's it. Handles like a much lighter bike. Not all bent up like a sport bike.
bad ass!!! that thing is the biggest and nastiest naked bike i have even seen!!!!!!!
Chris if you'd like the true potential of the bike do the airbox mod aswell as a hayabusa map and then you'll see some serious gains...garion did mine here in south Africa I'm 20hp up from the day he first saw my bike
BRO, I cant read lips
Really appreciate your knowledge I am a hibusa fan and I just ran across the big king 2022 I didn't know that about the Cam thanks a lot bro
dude, I haven't watched the video yet, I just want to say I have never clicked on a video this fast before. I been looking for a B-king for over a year, just to send it to you.
My Plan is to have the bike shipped to you (when I find one) and then pick it up and ride it back to Kentucky. I'll contact you once I purchase one.
Back to the video.
i got a bad ass one
got lucky and found mine at the shop i go to. was being sold on commission and i nagged the dealership to nag the owner to sign it over with cash offer ready to go.. There was a line of people tryna get their hands on it.
I have one for sale
You know I love this bike. Awesome hoody bro.
Badass!!
0:39 Same cam part numbers and same compression ratio as 2nd gen busa... restricted airbox.
Hey man, I'm buying a bking tomorrow with 8k miles on it, I'm in myrtle area I will be seeing you soon to do the same thing!
I really like this 2022 HAYABUSA And the contest of the your TH-cam channel is very nice the content wont get any other TH-cam channels i am really a greate lover of the 2022 hayabusha it is my bream bike......
Still a couple of hp down on a completely stock VMAX. Flashed with airbox mod & filter and decat exhaust is 197-200 for a VMAX. And the VMAX is a far better ride than the naked Hayabusa.
The vmax is also a 1700cc so not sure why you're comparing that to this bking thats a 1340cc. I guess if you want to make random comparisons a ninja h2 makes more power than a vmax and has a much smaller motor lol.
Actually the v-max only wanna go straight I dont see how would that equal to a better ride. Also if done right the king will put down 197 on the wheel so there is that. The key is in the airbox and the right fueling which was not done here. Same power from a 1/4 less cc for the same power but less weight I think it is clear which one is a better bike.
So my buddy has a 2009 vmax that made 177 whp and 121wtq with full voodoo, flash, air filter and tune. It’s a freaking rocket don’t get me wrong. But from a 30 roll the bking stays out ahead the whole time. Now from a 0 it’s much harder for me to keep my bike down. The vmax is super easy to launch due to it being almost 900lbs. So to answer the question. Is the vmax faster than the bking? The answer I no. It makes the same wheel power and weighs 200lbs more. Remember whatever you read “200hp” after going through the shaft drive your not getting nearly that. The power is about the same as the bking with about 15lbs of tq more but again the weight is much more.
@@danieldavis5583 Thats when you get a 240 tire on it. I'm not saying I dont smoke the tire from a dig if I open up as low as 4K but it helps a hell of a lot. See my channel for examples. :)
The max is shaft drive. 10% more driveline loss and ass jacking. I have a B, and buddy has a Max. We swap and the B wins every time. 3-4 bikes to 130. Max can’t squat and plant the tire.
HUGE gains!!!
hey chris i now this is an older video but would it be hard to get the b-king engine to be like the hayabusa ? powerwise ... or would it be better too just swap in a haybusa block ? thx love the video,s and grudge content ! grtz from belgium !
It's the same exact engine in both.
I love that bike , I want one lol
i have a super cool one of these for sale
@@terryjones1899 I would need to sell my busa first lol
I have one for sale
@@steveknecum944 pics
I own one. It's faster than a Hayabusa in a 1/4 mile.....in 9.6 seconds. So don't confuse people. Mr bking is a monster. Without your tune
Morning Chris. Please make a video of how you started youre business please. Shout out from South Afrika 🙌 👏
Can you tune a carburetor bike? If so, would it be more expensive?
Magic Mike was pumped up after them nuggets!!! I couldn't hear sh*t you were saying Big Bird cuz the B King was talking over you. Damn good numbers I thought & w a Vodoo. Makes you wonder if Voodoo really means doo doo??
This dude has a rare bike and proceeds to put a polished tin can instead of an exhaust... I don't get it.
It’s America mate. They’re professionals at ruining perfectly good bikes. Just look at all the fat tyre conversions and stretch swing arms for no reason.
I hate the sound of those things .annoying tone
Hey my cousin and I want to trailer our FJR 1300s and bring them to ya and get them flashed?? Cost ?? Time frame??
why would people get rid of that beautiful undertail exhaust?
Chicken nuggies 😳few that was a close one🤣🤫
Would it make even more power with a Brock's short meg or Alien Head? Either way, not too far off from a 2nd gen. We made 184 on pump gas with my 2nd gen.
Brought up a good point. Cuz Vodoo usually supposed to be on the bottom, w Brocks on top of food chain. (My understanding) then this B King did good now I'm confused. 😆
@@chaz951 170 isn't bad anyways. And from what I read today, basically the only difference is the air box which is designed for more low end.
When are you going to show the numbers on the 2022 with the nitrous on it GSXR 1000 what power do it make
I have an 08 with the Yoshi slip on ex under the seat.
Do I need to have anything done for the performance? Seems I lost a little hp. Thanks.
One of the baddest bikes I own, right now.
Yes, the engine was lean from the factory. Changing the exhaust made the engine more lean, that is why you feel like you lost HP; you did lose some. Send him your ECU and see if he will use the same flash as this one. ANYTIME you change or modify the exhaust, you alter your fuel ratio, almost always for the worst.
@@briangc1972 thanks
@@briangc1972 I'v been tuning this bike with my WB O2 sensor and data logger and I have to say the factory fuel map is up to 15% too rich. Even with the airbox mod it will not run lean. As long as the exhaust valve is in the system changing the cans will not make a slightest difference as the valve is the choke point. Its the airbox that will make changes to the mixture. Loaded the Busas map in and it was up to 25% too rich with even more mods to the airbox. The Hayabusa itself running up to 15-20% too rich. I'm not sure where did you get this info but its incorrect.
Check the exhaust valve if it does open fully. When you put the ignition on the valve should do a full cycle. Dont start just watch if it moves the whole cycle.
@@GerBeGurGya Thanks, I’ll check that out.
Ok so...might wanna try WAITING til the dyno run is over before talking to us ok Chris? Thanks.
Do have a ECU flash for a bone stock 2021 gsxr1000r?
So Chris is it okay to run my zx14 without a tune
I wish suzuki never did away with the B-King.
Please and Thank B
the question is, buy a Bking or a Zh2.. hmmmm
Weight preference for me.....I like big bikes that cut through the wind and plenty of horses. I've had 600, 750s, I don't like anything under 1200cc ..heavier bikes more stabile
@@PopCulturzTV I know that feeling
The b king is 1340cc the h2 is a 998cc. The busa engine is the best in the world. You can put the monnycin the b king you Pay for zh2 And the b king is mutch more brutal And the busa sound is a brutalis king of speed
Are high flow air filters available for B-kings?
Sprint: No.
DNA: Yes.
K&N: Yes.
It’s got a dna filter
DNA - best!
Sprint is actually measurably better than all the rest, as they don't use cotton fiber and don't use oil, they filter massive amounts of air and are also very uniform and micronic.
needs more fuel? mine just has slip on yoshis and the cat is gutted and it sucks through the fuel mannn
But...has it been tuned for the changes you made? If not you can be sure your not getting the power & efficiency it should have
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And I have guys tell me that a full system will only get you .01% HP gain over stock, so why do it....and tell them BS and I refer them to this video.
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Hey man my cousin and I want to trailer out we
Cheap nasty exhaust has ruins the
B King what wrong with sum people
Lmao the engine IS exactly the same as a busa internally, in ECU is detuned
Fire the guy that’s gave it a dopey name that sounds like a hamburger chain monthly special.
It has the same engine as the Busa there is not one difference. Having a reputation to look after its a big mistake to claim otherwise. You have got to know the bike you are making a video on. The airbox is a lot smaller and the snorkels are a joke. There was no word on if the owner already did the airbox. STP's are closing controlled by the ECU @9200 in 5th and 8500 in 6th. The ignition is all dumbed down. Do the airbox right, Sprint filter it, fuel it, fix the STP and this baby will put down 200WHp but you will not gain 20-30HP just with an exhaust and a new fuel map. You have got to open up the airbox to get there. Promising this extra power to peeps just by via ECU flash is fraudulent.
Thanks for sharing the right knowledge brother. ^This is an sport touring bike...." he did not take 5 minutes to research the bike and make the tunning video.....
@@cabezamiami In other video he opens up the STP to 100% from idle. Sure way to lose a lot of low and mid-range torque. Been tuning mine with WB O2 sensor and data logger for the 9 years I had it. Modded the airbox way beyond the silicon hoses to the side and must have had around 20 different map made for every little change. This guy I dont know I wouldnt believe when hes asking a question. Here we dont actually know if the airbox was modified or not but it had to be to get even close to these numbers. I dont understand how can he sell this tune made for this one bike with unknown mods other than the exhaust to others and promise these numbers and that its safe for a stock setup.
Man that sounds like crap. Poor Bking. Like to see a new Yamaha V-max get the MM treatment!
Mines got an heal tech xtre. (not as good as a flash I know) .. But shes shocked at few sports bike riders.. . Zh2 would seem to be the natural progression. But I love mine to much
TRE keeps the 4th gear mapping? So it can go (allegedly) over 186 mph?
@@daveyt4802It's got 3 map settings mate.. One of which does let it max out at 186.
Its crap if you think a suzuki gsxs750 is 100hp my gsxs1000 is 150 hp so that thing should be 200hp minimum
ZH2 is probably a much better option than the B-King, at least in a modern definition.
It's a Small bike vs Big bike preference...
@@PopCulturzTV Maybe. But not really a power preference. Now that ECU flashes are available for the ZH2, it's no contest there.
@@exothermal.sprocket gotcha..
8k vs 25k? Lol..I don't even know if I can feel good about dropping that much money on a bike...if I had stupid money maybe
@@PopCulturzTV Personally I don't see any use for a ZH2. It's a novelty of "I've got a naked bike that's faster than your naked bike" from the likes of one-upsmanship Kawasaki. They've done this sort of thing a long time. Every category they try to top the horsepower.
I'm more of a 115-130 horsepower is enough.
Rare ass bike lmao you’ll never see em
will never understand why anybody would run that type of exhaust. It's just STUPID.... Makes it WAY TO LOUD, a good quality tuned exhaust with muffler would make more power.
lip reading
Crap. What a waste of video. Could not hear a thing he said over the noise, could not see the graphs because he jerks around so much, and if you freeze it the focus is still too bad to read. I had two B Kings in '08, one custom painted with the exhaust mod, and one stock. I spent most of my time on the stocker. I'll add a note or two here: That big tank is not the gas tank, it's the air box, the tank is lower for better balance and handling. My two sons rode it, but did not love it. Why? You might think this is weird, but they said it was no fun to ride a bike that you knew could beat anyone. More fun to ride like my 750 Magna and race bikes in the same class to 'work and fight for the win.'
I'd stay away from the street racing. It's stupid. OK to watch, but to actually do? Nah.
🤨🦻🤚lol i bet its super loud in person. Definitely going to send my ecu to you guys.