Fifth Wheel Suspension MorRyde SRE 4000 install and Lifted with SafeJack
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I installed the SRE4000 MORryde suspension and wet shackles on my Cedar Creek 38CKTS. In order to do so, I too removed the OEM Dexter Easy-Flex suspension and shackles. Immediately upon leaving the MORryde factory in Elkhart, IN I crossed a RR track and could instantly tell how smoothly the MORryde suspension handled the crossing. MORryde makes the finest accessories in the trailer industry. I highly recommend MORryde components.
We have these on a 30’ Winnebago travel trailer. We swapped out the original 4400 lb axles and springs, because of the cheesy 3500 lb wheel bearings, and went with 6000 lb axles with bigger 12” brakes. We replaced everything from the hangars on down, we just got back from. 1700 mile trip. We were told we didn’t need shocks with this system. We misjudged a turn and had to roll over a high median with one side of the trailer and the added travel of these equalizers allowed us to do so without damaging anything. Great video.
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I've had these on my 5th wheel for the past year and they have made a huge difference in how smooth the trailer pulls, but also with how I can generally leave non-fragile items in place like on the counter of the kitchen and it doesn't move in transit. That tells me that much of the shock of the terrible lippert leaf spring design is not being imparted on the structure of my 5th wheel. I will say that these are wear items. The rubber bushings do wear and separate from the metal housing overtime. Keep an eye on that. I've got about 10,000 miles on mine now and they sag a bit. I plan to reach out to Morryde to see about a warranty replacement, that said, they are still worth every penny, and I've heard Morryde's customer service is outstanding. Also, when I do replace them I intend to get a set of those safejacks. I did mine with scissor jacks and cribbing. Not safe.
Look at the Roadmaster Slipper springs with Joyrider gas shocks. So nice, so strong, great ride. Easy install.
Thumbs up. Life just gets better and better.
We have the Morryde system on our Montana. Love the system.
Some major wood blocks could have avoided extending your various jacks to the max. That is what most RV mechanics utilize as a stable base.
Literally just finished installing these on my 5th wheel. Can't wait to take it for a spin
So how did they work out for you. Any thoughts a year after installing them? any problems?
I agree, the 2017 F450 dose look good with your fifth wheel
Ya but 2x the truck needed for that baby rv...
Hmmm honestly this is a great option for those lifted trucks pulling 5th wheels for the proper clearance. Nice video btw.
Always good videos. Very informative. I like those jacks too. Will be looking in to a pair for myself. Thanks again!
I have a pair of these 6500# Husky jacks bolted to the rear frame of my 94 Class C Tioga Arrow for leveling and stability.
Over built? You bet they are! Granted my Arrow is the big boy at 32 feet; and mounted as far back as possible; with a cordless drill, when the jacks are over half extended....they stretch my suspension with ease to level out.
At one favorite campsite; (due to the terrain) with custom wood ramps the bumper of my rig is over 3 feet off the ground and solid as a rock. (The rear wheels are NOT off the ramps/ground btw.)
I just love the look of those Sailun tires. From personal experience, I know they'll even look that way after many years of use (& abuse).
Luke Edward: love them tires :)
Luke Edward I bought the same tires for my Chapparel going to install them this winter.
I know this video is older, I see everyone upgrading the spring components , but not the springs themselves. I have had 2 spring failures on my Autumn Ridge 32 RKS . They both snapped clean, up near the shackle one last year and the passenger side this year. I Had the rated axles for the trailer. A crazy experience when an axle shifts after a spring snaps going down the highway at 70 m ph. Then trying to deal with on side of highway. I have pics
Roadmaster Slipper Springs with Joyrider Gas Shocks. No Comparison.No maintenance, won't wear and fail like all the Mor/ryde junk! Slipper spring have been used on commercial rigs for over 50 years! Oh yeah easy install.
I swear I’m just going to have to get a list of things I need when we get our 5th Wheel. We are buying used and then building out it out to be our dream rig.
Blocks of wood and bottle jack work great
Watching the truck and the trailer hitch up... that truck just seems to fit perfect
Very informative. The Jayco Pinnacle I am looking at has this suspension on it. I was doing a comparison search with the Highland Ridge 3X which has the Equa-flex system.
You answered my question. Morryde all the way.
Same here talked with Mor/ryde, said the same think but would help on the ruff roads. I had a set of the shocks installed anyway, if it will add a little help to the suspension, good investment over the life of the RV.
Looks good! Have to look into those safe jacks, those could come in handy.
Wonder Whats Next: They are pretty amazing brother
Nice job I have a passport and I got the Moryde 3000 coming from my trailer
Looks like a great upgrade but my 5 ft 2 in. "structurally challenged" wife might not appreciate the 1&1/2 rise height increase. I have move to a class A but we often meet-up with friends who own a fifth wheel and I will show this video to them. John's only complaint is that he wished the fifth wheel had a better suspension.
Structurally challenged, lol I gotta steal that one!
An much easier way to use the jack is to get a copper or alum. tube, put it on the jack handle and then use. Gives you much more leverage and it's easy to jack up.
Simple house jacks from lowes works just fine, they come in various sizes and inexpensive. And they can lift a battleship
That trailer should ride like a Cadillac by now. Just need to run a genny while I ride in back and enjoy my stay.
Nice Video very informative thanks.
My elbows and knees ache just watching the ground you had to work on.
Aside from a better ride, have you had someone ride in the trailer while in motion to see if the earthquake has a reduced richter scale rating? Would be nice to have less wear and tear on the trailer and contents
Love this channel
Hey Sir, have a question for you on this setup was wondering if we could discuss couple things about it...
Another great video, I've been wanting too install the Mor ryde CRE3000 since I don't have enough wheel travel before I'd bottom out too go with the CRE4000. I would have like too have seen more detail on the install of the new part's.
Although you didn't discuss, it appears that you did jack both sides of the 5th wheel prior to the installation. I was actually wondering if you could jack 1 side at a time and then install vs both sides off the ground
Jeff Ward: we started lifting the entire rig, but ended up doing each side individually for better stability and safety while working.
I installed the SRE-4000 on my Alpine fifth wheel and have been very happy with the performance over the rough roads in Alaska and the Top of the World highway. My question is are you happy with the Joy Rider shocks in combination with the SRE-4000? When I purchased the SRE-4000 MorRyde advised against adding shocks but I can see no reason other than the travel of the SRE-4000.
I love the SRE4000s, but do not care for the shocks. They really don't have enough dampening ability to effect such a heavy trailer.
@@BigTruckBigRV I was wondering if they had enough stroke to handle the 4" of the SRE-4000. I had my tires balanced when the unit was new but had a bent axle that was replaced by Lippert. I now have signs of balance problems and think a proper shock system would help. BTW MorRyde said not to use shocks.
Nice!
If it didn't raise the height! You would have me sold on a set. But I'm already at 13.5' high
Run a longer link from the morryde to the leaf spring?
Very impressive suspension system. Morryde makes a good product. Have u seen the new step system they have out. They seam and feel fantastic
Kevin Barone: I have and I plan on installing one soon.
Big Truck Big RV you know I was wondering about the husky jack you had under as well. Those seam to be just stabilizing jacks to me not sure I would have trusted those. I put the cre 3000 on my travel trailer this spring and we noticed a difference in how the camper rides for sure. A bit smother for sure. As it turned out I wound up replacing all the bushings and did the shackles as well. I used the brass bushings but the standard shackles for now. I’ll be going to the wet bolt kit eventually.
Kevin Barone: The Husky jacks are the ONLY scissor jacks that I WOULD TRUST to support that much weight.
Big Truck Big RV huh ok guess I’m just old fashioned. I use jack stands and or blocks
That sounds like it could do better over long drives, be safer and save some on gas mileage.
Bud you should wrap the rv to match
Ryan Williams: I know. I've considered it.
It would be awesome if you wrapped it ruby red wityh black graphics.
Do you have a video on the shocks you added ?
Which was the better upgrade the shocks or moreryde?
The cross brace make it really sturdy and solid. You have shocks on trailer. Was that from factory or did you add. Are shocks a good add on.
Says the man not working the Bottle Jack. Have you ever served? Natural born Officer..work just enough to get a little dirt on your hands to say that you've done something..lol just messing with you 😆 HAHAHAH
Great video, now seeing you entire set up, shocks, Morryde 4000, what made you decide to got that route instead of a complete independent suspension set up? I have a new 2021 Jayco 5th wheel HT gvwr @ 10000......with Morryde cre3000. I like the IS concept and can't figure if it's worth the money on such a smaller rig.
Would you have any advice?
Well, it looks to me like you took a big hit on side to side strength with that long down
bracket from the old rocker arm to the new rocker arm, those massive shackle straps
are just eye candy, you now have a much longer prybar from your frame to your new
rocker arm....
After doing the install, do you feel the need to have the trailer wheels aligned?
L Stokes: I Did during the install, but after completing it and pulling, I didn't notice any wagging or chucking from the trailer being out of alignment
We have this system on our Montana as well. Just wondering...should bronze bushings be installed in the front perches of the front leaf springs and in the rear perches of the rear leaf springs?
Hi what are some of your recommendations on a really good suspension. I own a Keystone raptor toy hauler fifth wheel 3 axle
Thanks
Love the look of the F450 waiting for the incentives to come out going to check Ins. and what's available in my area, just went over 23,000 on my 2015 F350, what was the sight to get the value of your truck check it against KBB. Looking forward to a test drive and seeing what's offered from a dealer on trade.
QUESTION ON SUSPENSION: Last summer we bent the driverside rear axle on our travel trailer, which threw off the camber. When noticed, the tire was worn out. Had the frame shop to align, they said potholes likely caused the bend. Is there an aftermarket kit that could help avoid this from happening again?
How are the shocks and shock brackets holding up after some good trailer miles on the system. I heard some have had troubles with the mounting system of it breaking
How does the suspension perform after 3 years that's what I want to know and how many miles have you logged on that suspension in that time I do equipment repair and I have a client that has 6 trailers that needs suspension that he spent a small fortune on faulty suspension parts suspension parts
How did you like Morryde kit on this one? I have an Imagine 2800bh and have been thinking. of getting these, or the Lippert set with the shackle kit.
job well done................except the camera, lol.
+SKPjoe Coursegold: thanks brother. yeah, I know
Hello again! I have to be honest, yes the newer red truck, by itself is nicer than the old new truck. But the older truck look better and matched the trailers colors better than the bright red truck. Is there an independent torsion suspension system robust enough for that sized 5th wheel?
+K. R. V.: oh yeah. Morryde makes an independent system that I showcased on my review of the DRV
Good Information thanks
Thanks for all your RV videos. I also have a Chaparral 5th wheel (345BHS) which I love. Because of your videos, I have upgraded to the Sailun tires and just purchased the Morryde 4000 system which I'll be installing this weekend. I'm excited to hear about your positive comments and can't wait to get it on the road. I just wish I could get Reese to warranty my hitch because it too is chucking as well. Thanks again, love the videos! One question, do the shocks make that big of a difference? Would you stick with Joy Rider or look for another brand?
I'm very please with the joyrider Morryde combo. I think they help control the travel the Morryde allows for.
Paul Youngberg: how did your install go?
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I absolutely LOVE this setup! Everything you noted in your video was exactly right. The install took me about 3 hours for the suspension. I found a bad brake from the factory, so I upgraded all 4 to the self adjusting brakes and repacked the bearings while I was there. I have not added any shock absorption system yet. The Sailun tires are awesome, and my new Champion 18k hitch is perfect. With all these upgrades, my rig is tighter than ever and so smooth. The only noise I have now is the slight rattle from my truck box lid, lol! Thanks for all the advice.
Paul, when ordering the MorRyde did you measure from hanger to hanger or the center to the center of the wheel hubs?
I know this is a bit older but I was looking at these equalizers and came across this video.
What concerns me with this equalizer system is body lean in curves at hi way speed.
With the conventional equalizer you only have the springs pushing the RV body to roll in a curve. With this setup you now have the springs AND the equalizer trying to roll the RV.
Big you said something about reusing hardware , I always use new nuts and bolts ! Also why is the hitch so far aft ?
+James Black: I used all new hardware. Not sure what you mean by saying the rig is so far aft. The pinbox on the Chaparral extends out pretty far
I considered these for my 5er. I just don't like a bonded elastomer in shear. What's the failure mode if it comes "unglued"?
Did you notice any lift after installing this?
I have watched many of your videos and I can't find which one you recommended RV tire upgrades. I am looking to upgrade my stock tires. Have a 40 dual axel 15k trailer. Thanks!
Great video. Roughly how high did the trailer need to go off the ground(bottom of frame to ground length)in order for installation? Trying to get my timber blocking figured out. Thank you
About 3.5" tires off ground. Also lift and install 1 side at a time. When lifted so high, stability will be an issue. Don't want to get crushed.
What made you decide on the 4000 vs the 3000?
It provides more dampening in two directions.
How has your experience been with the Joyrider shocks? I want to add to my 5W but have seen another commenter who said the mounting brackets cracked on his rig.
Do you think you could find out about replacing a Norcold 1210 with a residential in a Coachman? I have one that I am wanting to do in mine
How has your experience been with the SRE 4000 after one year? I talked with Sonny at RV Improvements and he steered me away from them. My dealer, who sells them, also told me they have had some issues and recalls and did not recommend them (on the QT).
A guy needs his wife to follow behind in a small truck to haul all the jacks he needs..
Why didn’t you put in electric over hydraulic disc brakes in at the same time?
Isn't a lot of suspension travel bad for trailers and 5th wheels?
Billy Morales: not if it's controlled
Are you going to put a ranch hand guard bumper on there?
+Jake Knafelc: Yep, soon
I was considering the CRE3000 system, what does the SRE4000 do for me that the CRE3000 doesn’t do? I don’t want to raise my ride height.
why didn't you just use the the leveling jacks on the trailer. I don't own a 5th wheel yet so I'm out of school when asking this question
Don't you use a cover on the rv while in storage?
When ordering your SRE 4000, did you measure from the wheel center of one axle to the other or did you measure from the first hanger to the second hanger? Went to RV upgrade and they show to measure from the center of the first wheel hub center of the center of the second wheel hub. MorRyde note to measure from center of one hanger to the seconded hanger of the other axle.
JD, you trailer storage facility is a mess. My OCD would be in high alert with all that dirt and dust. How often do you clean your rig?
Nice video, but got one question. Now that you have 4" of suspension travel, are the joyride shocks designed for that much travel? Just a thought.
atvtinker01: Yes sir. that was the first thing I investigated
Manufactures say don't use them
Typically how many miles can you get out of the SRE4000 before needing to replace the bushings?
Depends on how rough those miles are. I would imagine at least 30k if not more
How does it do around corners, mountain bends. Flex is good but it'll add more side to side sway, unless you add an anti sway bar. How much sway does it add, and do you think a sway bar is necessary for those of us who travel through mountain country?
Evolution Glitch: I honestly don't know how much of an effect sway would have with the new suspension. I do know that it is standard on many Fifth Wheels that approach $100k
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Cool thanks for the reply. If you learn anything in those regards, let us all know. Also keep up the great videos!
what do you use the 5th wheel for? do you have a family? etc
Did your RV come with those shocks or did you add them later?
added the Joy Rider system
Hey Big Truck Big RV, Ive been an avid subscriber of yours for a while, and have made some buying decisions based on your information/videos. My questions for you is this: Is their a ride or quality difference between the dexter EZ flex, and the Moryde 3000 or just branding? I’m upgraded my Grand design from a standard rigid equalizer. Will the trailer chuck and bounce on my hitch noticeably less? Thanks for your time
The Morryde system does provide a significant amount of movement vs the EZ Flex. The EZ Flex in my opinion is the more robust of the two products however. I would not do the shock absorbers though. They simply do not have the dampening power to really make a difference.
Big Truck Big RV Thankyou. I should e to apologize, the dealer is installing “road armor” not the Moryde 3000 or 4000. Not sure if this a decent product. What’s your take on Weslake tires? Do you think I should have my wheels balanced as well?
I had a question, how much do you usually spend monthly on covered storage. And what is the facility called? Just wondering, looking for storage myself. Love the videos, travel safe
Bob Jones: Around $180 per month
Did you have to adjust the bracket for the shocks due to raising up the 5th wheel?
no sir
Thanks
Would the trailer stabilizers help? Maybe they don't extend that far down?
Michael Hony: They aren't designed for that much weight.
Leslie B: Yes, Easily. Just be Sure your frame won't twist....which it shouldn't
anyone give an opinion on this system today. Looking at installing this or something similar on my older fifth wheel
Question: In Texas are you allowed to pull twin-trailors? ( ex... 5th wheel + boat)
Yvon Chateauneuf: Yes, so long as you don't exceed 65'
should have also used a jack stand or blocks
we originally used blocks and one broke under the load. Caused a dangerous situation. Steel is the way to go brother
Don't think he meant concrete blocks. That's just asking for trouble. Blocks or railroad ties acting as cribbage. I need to do something like this with my 95 Holiday Ramble but probably air ride since it has and older style Moryde system and not leaf springs.
I agree with the jack stands. You could have rented heavy duty jack stands from any equipment rental company. Safety first! That is an OSHA requirement in a commercial setting. Just saying! Great video however and I agree on the Morryde as a great choice.
Did it really give you 4 more inches?
your jack technique needs work the only good thing you did was connect to the truck to minimize fore and aft movement that is assuming that the truck parking brake was applied and at least one wheel was chocked fore and aft. There is obviously no wheel chocks on other side of trailer being used as they should be. The scissor jacks have limited strength against lateral motion as they are fully extended. the easier way to lift and safely work on is to use one jack (floor preferably) under an axle which will immediately raise the chassis since the suspension is "pre-loaded" raise the frame to a sufficient height then use jack stands on frame then lower the hydraulic jack transfer the weight onto the jack stands and hang or unload the axle. this technique is safer as the jack is never extended to such a great length
Randy D: Thank you for providing better jacking techniques. I appreciate your knowledge.
What is your favorite state you've been in? I live in the commonwealth of Virginia you should come here sometime.
JOSH DOSE SOMTHING: I'm a fan of Utah, Florida and Texas
Big Truck Big RV why not Virginia.
Curious why you changed out the factory “bearing” equalizer?
Did you add shocks and does it void your warranties?
+Martin Rios: I did but im not sure about them voiding the warranty. They should extend it considering the benefits
Do you have a video adding the shocks?? And what shock kit did you used???
Arent you on a different you tube channel? An rv sales company?
how long is that truck and trailer from bumper to bumper?
Charles Greene: I believe around 55'
would be better if you used more planks then just one so the man could not have to pump so many times . Just my Opinion.
So what hitch do you have in your truck now?
B&W OEM Bell and Goosebox
Did you put the air bags on not much sag without them and what air pressure did you have in your tires for the test ride.
Drifter's Den: no airbags on the truck
Where did you purchase the joyrider system from.
it was provided to me for this video from Joy Rider
Thanks will look them up, thinking of attempting the job have to get some long bits, did you have the RV on jacks to install both sets or just on level ground.
Jacks. But we we would lift it differently next time. Drop the front down really low and then put tall 12k jack stands under the frame right behind the rear tires. Lift up on the front and whala
Big Truck Joy Rider has a new system called Comfort Ride, know of anyone who has installed it on there RV or you could put some info on your channel about it. Thanks
Does your trailer ever leave that storage lot? lol
Graveltrucking: only on the third through fifth day before the last week following each second month 10 times per year or 2.5 times each quarter
LOL
Do u have any email that I can send som pictures of f450 in Sweden 🇸🇪