Great content. At this point I am wondering if air bags suspension would be even better. This units are heavy so floating on air like a class A would be event better. Self levelling to the current weight of the unit plus content, one could event get a reading of the current weight just by the amount of air needed to level off the trailer.
Hi Matt and Wil! Great content with this testing out this suspension. You can really tell the difference with or without the suspension. Thank all who helped to built this suspension. Thank you Matt and Wil for the video!
I have to admit this was an awesome video - I’ve always been curious about the Richter scale value in our 5th wheel going down our less than stellar highways. After watching this it’s amazing they survive more than a couple of trips! So that said, I would like to see a video with the addition of the MORryde IS system. What a great marketing tool! Curious as to the difference in cost of the Dexter axles and associated components and the MORryde bolt on IS system if all new manufactured trailers came standard with IS. Would significantly increase the lifespan of trailers. Just a thought.
At first, when we saw Matt with the helmet, he reminded us of those “helmet kids “in the special school across the street from us. We love you, Matt and Will all the way from 🇨🇦
What is lippert doing towards power concerns in the chassis. Many trucks will probably be hybrids in the next decade. That means more weight and different vehicle dynamics with batter technology being implemented.
ABS is good, but you can do the same with your gain for your trailer brakes. I keep mine just so when I apply the brakes, the trailer applies first. Not so much where you wear your brakes out fast, but just enough that you will feel it. If you do have to stop fast, your trl brakes will apply first and keep you in a straight line. I always keep mine set that way and had to use the brakes to avoid an accident and never had the trl pass me. Drove truck for thirty years, and used the what they call the Johnson bar, the handle on the right side of the steering wheel. This applies brakes to the trl only. That also has saved me many times. So, if you keep you gain just a touch high, you will feel the difference.
You cannot do the same thing. The ABS system has individual speed sensors on every wheel and can apply or take away braking if necessary depending on the situation. In a sway situation it can even apply braking to one side to help keep it straight utilizing g-sensors for yaw.
@@Itsa_Mea Been there and done that. It does work if you do not have an ABS. Not all trl's have ABS, so this is a good way to help keep your trl straight. Did it with my fifth wheel and did grossing eighty thousand pounds.
@@earlribaudo4807 not saying using the jockey brake doesn't work. I'm saying the new ABS trailer system is computerized and has far more going on and can not be mimicked on an old trailer brake set up, and definitely not even close to airbrake.
@@Itsa_Mea yes I understand that nothings free but I have a feeling the only reason this has came out is because of all the bad frames that just don’t hold up. So if I manufacture something’s that’s for sure going to fail I can then manufacture a better product later that cost you more and makes me more money. Sounds like the jokes on the consumer
What I get from this is that Lippert is trying to make better products. But if you listen carefully, it's the RV manufacturers with build parameters !!! I think there should be better product evaluation on usage and warranty expectations. The first ride test was awful. it shouldn't even be a choice on an rv.
Frame failure was not so common until the past year or so and the internet has done a lot since COVID to bring transparency and accountability to a largely unregulated industry. The RV brands (especially Grand Design) have been pointing fingers back and forth at Lippert for building shoddy frames, and this is a canny move by Lippert to show that manufactures ultimately drive the quality and specs of components they provide by pressing for value engineering over redundancy and building to a price point. All that being said, the poor quality of underlying welds that many have reported can only be addressed by Lipperrts own renewed commitment to training and QA (IMHO).
Frame fails and now being able to sue for it. They should have done this 30 years ago. They will only fix things like this when they have make big payouts! RV's should fall under lemon laws. That's the fix.
I could not believe that in my Communist State of NY, I can’t drive a car without a seatbelt on, but I can ride blindly in the back of a 5th wheel trailer with no seatbelts while wearing a goofy bicycle helmet😂🤣😂
For this to be a true comparative test, it should've been the same trailer with the different suspension options.
Finally an automotive style suspension. Makes sense!
Great content. At this point I am wondering if air bags suspension would be even better. This units are heavy so floating on air like a class A would be event better. Self levelling to the current weight of the unit plus content, one could event get a reading of the current weight just by the amount of air needed to level off the trailer.
Hi Matt and Wil! Great content with this testing out this suspension. You can really tell the difference with or without the suspension. Thank all who helped to built this suspension. Thank you Matt and Wil for the video!
Very impressive! Now you need to come up with a kit to retrofit existing, older suspension systems.
That is crazy! Thanks for sharing!
Lol Matt you are definitely an entertainer. Love the helmet!
Great video gentlemen thank you salutes
I have to admit this was an awesome video - I’ve always been curious about the Richter scale value in our 5th wheel going down our less than stellar highways. After watching this it’s amazing they survive more than a couple of trips! So that said, I would like to see a video with the addition of the MORryde IS system. What a great marketing tool! Curious as to the difference in cost of the Dexter axles and associated components and the MORryde bolt on IS system if all new manufactured trailers came standard with IS. Would significantly increase the lifespan of trailers. Just a thought.
With enough bubblewrap, even Matt can be carried safely. 😮
😂😅 Thanks for the laughs!
Another great video. Great job.
Excellent video!!!
Excellent video. You’re hereby known as Matt from State Farm
Every upgrade adds weight. How much more does the pro frame weight than the standard frame?
Are they still doing crappy welds? Or is it still hit and miss as far as it's falling apart😢
My question is what manufacturers will offer this system?
This was an interesting test.
It's amazing that these things don't fall apart after a thousand miles. Worse than any boat going along in medium chop.
Lol, some do!
At first, when we saw Matt with the helmet, he reminded us of those “helmet kids “in the special school across the street from us.
We love you, Matt and Will all the way from 🇨🇦
How can a consumer find out what RV manufacturers use this upgraded frame and suspension products?
What is lippert doing towards power concerns in the chassis. Many trucks will probably be hybrids in the next decade. That means more weight and different vehicle dynamics with batter technology being implemented.
Good video
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ABS is good, but you can do the same with your gain for your trailer brakes. I keep mine just so when I apply the brakes, the trailer applies first. Not so much where you wear your brakes out fast, but just enough that you will feel it. If you do have to stop fast, your trl brakes will apply first and keep you in a straight line. I always keep mine set that way and had to use the brakes to avoid an accident and never had the trl pass me. Drove truck for thirty years, and used the what they call the Johnson bar, the handle on the right side of the steering wheel. This applies brakes to the trl only. That also has saved me many times. So, if you keep you gain just a touch high, you will feel the difference.
You cannot do the same thing. The ABS system has individual speed sensors on every wheel and can apply or take away braking if necessary depending on the situation. In a sway situation it can even apply braking to one side to help keep it straight utilizing g-sensors for yaw.
@@Itsa_Mea Been there and done that. It does work if you do not have an ABS. Not all trl's have ABS, so this is a good way to help keep your trl straight. Did it with my fifth wheel and did grossing eighty thousand pounds.
@@earlribaudo4807 not saying using the jockey brake doesn't work. I'm saying the new ABS trailer system is computerized and has far more going on and can not be mimicked on an old trailer brake set up, and definitely not even close to airbrake.
Matt, you look like going to space with the helmet what about Will and the other gentlemen?
If I understood this right if you want this frame it’s an upgrade “ more money “ or you just stick with the same frame. I hope I’m wrong about this.
It's upto the manufacturer to chose to use the upgraded chassis. Nothings free.
@@Itsa_Mea yes I understand that nothings free but I have a feeling the only reason this has came out is because of all the bad frames that just don’t hold up. So if I manufacture something’s that’s for sure going to fail I can then manufacture a better product later that cost you more and makes me more money. Sounds like the jokes on the consumer
I hope Lippert is utilizing Kaizen in their production improvement policies.
Did Lippert improve their frame welds?
Not a bad weld on my 2024. And I've thoroughly inspected it.
Its not new, its a redo of the roadmaster suspension to get around the slipper spring patents and system that's been around since 2015.
Either way seems to be an intense earthquake on wheels. These things are built to fall apart.
what is the aveg cost for a TT with this
What I get from this is that Lippert is trying to make better products. But if you listen carefully, it's the RV manufacturers with build parameters !!! I think there should be better product evaluation on usage and warranty expectations. The first ride test was awful. it shouldn't even be a choice on an rv.
Why were they not doing this 10 years ago?
Full timing and working from home (RV) is alot more popular than ever and is driving this I believe.
Frame failure was not so common until the past year or so and the internet has done a lot since COVID to bring transparency and accountability to a largely unregulated industry. The RV brands (especially Grand Design) have been pointing fingers back and forth at Lippert for building shoddy frames, and this is a canny move by Lippert to show that manufactures ultimately drive the quality and specs of components they provide by pressing for value engineering over redundancy and building to a price point. All that being said, the poor quality of underlying welds that many have reported can only be addressed by Lipperrts own renewed commitment to training and QA (IMHO).
Put shocks it will take 50%
Matt looks so stupid with that helmet on for no reason. What is he afraid of?
Sorry Matt you look ridiculous in that helmet, lol. Did not realized it shakes so much.
Frame fails and now being able to sue for it. They should have done this 30 years ago. They will only fix things like this when they have make big payouts! RV's should fall under lemon laws. That's the fix.
Watch thee long long trailer, noone around in trailer during travel
I could not believe that in my Communist State of NY, I can’t drive a car without a seatbelt on, but I can ride blindly in the back of a 5th wheel trailer with no seatbelts while wearing a goofy bicycle helmet😂🤣😂
It is legal to ride in a fifth wheel in NY.
@@ricknolte6846 Thanks for the info👍I can’t drive my car without a seatbelt on, but I can ride blindly in a 5th wheel trailer with no seatbelt😂
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Id rather build on a car trailer.. why such thin steal?