Also it's incorrect to call them Italians. They were rightfully Venetian-speaking populations (Istro-Venetians and Dalmatians) that belonged for almost 700 years to the Venetian Republic. Schiavoni were arguably the best fighters of the Republic, also known for their deep loyalty to their Venetian flag.
Very pleased to watch your videos Lewis Wirth, visiting ISTRIA towns, that belonged to LA SERENISSIMA or the Venetian Republic of which my ancestors were citizens and I still fly the Flag !!
Bro not even 2% of the population of Rijeka is Italian, according to the 2021 census its 1.45%. Your family may speak Italian, but most people do not. In the whole county of Istria, 5% are Italian. You will find more Italians living on the westernmost parts of Istria.
@@Tommie.ManicGK Fair enough, but point being, if he's looking to find more Italian speakers, he'll have more luck on the western coast of Istria (Rovinj, Pula, Portorož, etc.)
Schiavoni were also building what you call "Venetian" today. Their names rebranded and rewritten. A lot of architecture, literature, music, technology...was done by "Schiavoni" and is attributed to Venetians today.
@LewisWirth No. What I'm saying is Slavic people of Dalmatia and Istra were forced to change their names in order to get jobs. Sometimes their names were changed by force or manipulation. This area is SLAVIC. CROATIAN. And more Venetian culture and architecture is done by Croatians than people will ever know.
@LewisWirth you don't know because... you never came across that info? You don't believe strangers writing stuff like that on internet to begin with? You came across a lot of other, opposite arguments so far? Sounds unreliable? You think someone would invent such data? For which reason exactly? You think this wasn't practice couple of centuries ago (again based on, preferably a lot of opposing data)?
@@cetterus It sounds plausible the architecture is probably a mix. I'm sure that this is far more the case in Pula for example Pula had quite a number of buildings that seemed roman inspired but didn't seem that old. But I find it much harder to believe that it applies to the same extent to this old little town. And btw you're also a random guy on the internet. I just went to the town that was said to be the most Italian in Croatia on Wikipedia. This is quite an old video of mine so that was approximately the extent of my research back then. I tend to do more research now but still also value what people that I meet tell me this was very valuable in Brazil because often there wasn't much information available online. Sometimes there was barely any. I'm still proud of how well the video turned out for me just having started making videos. I learned a lot that I was able to improve on for my much bigger and more important trip to Latin America and all the Croatians and Italians fighting with each other in the comments did help my channel get noticed just a little bit in the beginning that was also nice. You should watch the video from Pula, that one is arguably less well made then this one but I wonder what you'll think of that one. Right now I'm working on a video on Italian towns that I visited in the South of Brazil. Still thanks for your comments, and thanks for watching my video
I think the kids were talking Italian, so that's probably the dominant language in that village. But i might be wrong... it was barely audible. Anyway, beautiful place, and nice documentary.
yeah, it sounds like italian. though i couldn't exactly make anything out either. maybe a "basta" or two and maybe a "muovati!". it didn't quite sound slavic. don't quote me.
I found out about the town based on some old census data referenced on Wikipedia. But there isn’t amazingly precise or recent information out there. But one thing that’s for certain is that the costal region of Istria still has a lot of Italian influence including Italian families and as second language Italian is even more common there.
Beware folks that Istriots and Dalmatians were largely ethnically replaced by Austro-Hungarians because they were never going to easily blend with the other Slavic territories of Austria-Hungary, like Austrians wanted. They were very loyal to their Venetian Republic and very combative. Schiavoni were arguably the best fighters of the entire Republic and that was an issue after the fall of their State, for Austrians. Needless to say that Tito completed that job and wiped them out of their lands. Centuries and centuries of Venetian-speaking and culturally-centered people completely destroyed.
The whole of Dalmatia belonged to Rome for nearly six centuries without interruption: it went then to the Italian Kingdom of Odoacre and to the Italian Kingdom of the Ostrogoths: and finally to the Empire of the East when Italy was reconquered. Venice had possession of the whole of it from the end of the XV century to the end of the XVIII century except for such temporary and partial losses which occurred in her struggles with the Turcs. Venice never gave up the islands and the towns on the Dalmatian coast not even during those short periods during which Dalmatia was partially Croat or Hungarian. Only at the end of the XVIII century Dalmatia came under the rule of the Austrian Monarchy and only in as much as it was made an heir to the territory of the Venetian Republic. Dalmatia remained therefore even then all one with Italy. It was included in Napoleon's ephemeral Kingdom of Italy, from which it was only temporarily severed to form the provinces of Illyria. It then was restored unto Austria together with Venice and it is only from 1866 until today that it has existed politically severed from the Italian peninsula. Therefore not only by nature art and civilisation, but also through its history, Dalmatia essentially pertains to Italy
Il conte Giuseppe Viscovich (Perasto, 1728 - Perasto, 1804) è stato un militare veneziano. Fu l'ultimo capitano veneziano di Perasto (oggi in Montenegro), ultimo territorio rimasto fedele alla Serenissima. Il 23 agosto del 1797, dopo più di tre mesi dalla caduta della repubblica di Venezia per mano francese,i cittadini di Perasto si radunarono davanti al palazzo del Capitano della città[ per seppellire il gonfalone della serenissima. /la bandiera di guerra di Venezia fu solennemente sepolta sotto l'altare della chiesa di San Nicola/ Davanti alla folla inginocchiata, il Capitano Giuseppe Viscovich tenne un discorso in lingua slava /croata:/il Giuramento di Perasto, altrimenti conosciuto come Ti co nu, nu co ti (nella traduzione in veneto)/ ma in realtà tutto il discorso è stato tenuto in croato / mi s tobum ti s nami/ Fu tradotto in italiano dal nipote, che lo pubblicò nel libro Perasto edito a Trieste nel 1878. e cosa c'entra la Dalmazia e Istria Veneta con l'Italia? L'Italia fu fondata nel 1861 e ricevette Venezia "in dono" dalla Francia dopo la sconfitta dell'Austria da parte della Prussia vicino a Sadowa nell 1866./ L’Austria si rifiutò di consegnare direttamente Venezia all’Italia, cedendola invece alla Francia, e quest’ultima all’Italia./
Italian living in Dalmatia and Istria were the real native people of the regions. Your ancestors came after, did not contribute at all to the civilization and finally stole everything with the help of Austrians.
@@Caleidus Lorenzo, buona anima solo durante la guerra per Palma morì il 50% della popolazione istriana, per non parlare delle epidemie di peste nel XVII secolo. Durante l'epidemia del 1631 morì l'80% della popolazione, solo Parenzo scese da 780 a 28 abitanti e Pola a 30. Venezia cercò di insediare la popolazione dalla penisola appenninica / ad esempio da Bologna nel 1657/ ma non arrivò nessuno. così Venezia fu costretta a insediare persone provenienti da Terre del mar / Dalmazia, Montenegro, Albania/ Dal XVII secolo la popolazione slava è quindi la maggioranza in Istria. /circa il 64%/I latini / non gli italiani / rimasero la maggioranza sulla costa occidentale e nelle città più grandi dell'Istria
You have to know that Istria and Dalmatia were part of Republic of Venice in ancient times that was interested in the sea. Instead the other part of Croatia had other population.However after the Congress of Vienn the Republic of Vnice becone part of Asburgic Empire. After WW1 the fascist italians occupated Istria and Dalmatia, and these territory were united to Italy. After WW2 these territory were united to Jugoslavia. After the split of Jugoslavia was created the Republic of Croatia joining these territory with Zagabria.
I know, if I could do it again I would've explained it better but I think the end result is alright, hope you still enjoyed it. Plan to make more similar stuff a few months from now
Dalmatia was part of the Byzantine territory in the early middle ages. According to "De Administrando Imperio" written by the 10th-century Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII, the Croats had arrived in Roman province of Dalmatia in the first half of the 7th century. In the early 9th century, the Eastern Adriatic coast including Dalmatia was the scene of the sphere of influence struggle between the Frankish and Byzantine Empire, but although the Byzantines have retained supremacy, Dalmatia became a meeting place between the West and the East. It's only with the 4th crusade in 1204 that the Byzantine power could no longer be projected in the area, the Venetians started expanding and clashed with Croats and Hungarians (because Croatia and Hungary entered a personal union a hundred years prior through marriage shennanigans). The idea that Dalmatia was Italian is just absurd, many Latins lived there, as is the case with everywhere in that era, people moved, borders weren't a thing. It's also not true that "Dalmatia and istria" had Latin population and "other part of Croatia had other population", it's simply untrue, the Latins and Slavs lived side by side and mingled. The hostilities were very limited after the Christianization of Croats. It's a story of Latins trying to project power onto eastern Adriatic, and they failed, but to say it was Italian, when there was no concept of Italy at the time, when the first Italy was created in 1861, you can see the absurdity of these claims. United to Italy? No, annexed. My grandpa was born in Italian occupied parts of Dalmatia, I know a decent bit about it. I really don't understand where Italians get the idea that these belonged to Italy, they were occupied as part of various wars, doesn't mean they were theirs to keep. Ultimately demography is destiny.
The most of the coastline of Croatia was formely ethnically and culturally Italian, before they fled because forced or because they didn't want to be part of Jugoslavia. You see a lot of Venice in Croatia.
You are obviously a coward and a fascist! I guess you're still crying now because Mussssssolini and that faggot D'Annnnnunzio lost? Croatian coast belong to Croatia, and you italian Piccolinni can only cry about it.!! And eat some pizza for a consolation!
@@damirblazevic4823 some people in dalmatia still have italian surnames. People were speaking Languages belonging to the romanic/italic group like dalmatian
Italians have always been a very small minority in Istra. But Croatian law for minorities is one of most advanced in Europe.Bilingual names are from the time of 50's or 60's if not late 40's. This video is full of malintentional information. N.B. Italians killed more than 100 000 Croats during WW2 in Istra and Dalmatia.They hung all Croatian teachers, publicly, on the trees. Male and female.
italians were not small minority in istria, according to the Austrian census in 1910, 386,000 inhabitants lived in Istria, of which 38.1% (147,417) were Italians. 43,5% (168.184) were croats, 14,3% (55.134) were slovens.With the fact that Italians represented over 80% of the population in the cities of western Istria/ Kopar, Novigrad, Portorož, Umag, Rovinj...// Capodistria, Cittanova, Portorose, Umago, Rovigno..../ Acording to austrian census italians were also well represented in Dalmazia town of Krk ( Veglia) (1880): 1.541 italians of 1.562 citises - 98,6% Rab( Arbe) (1880): 567 of 811 - 69,9% Pag (Pago)(1880): 785 of 3.527 - 22,3% Boka Kotorska Bocca di Cattaro (1880): 689 of 2.949 - 23,4% Trogir ( Trau) (1880): 1.960 of 3.129 - 62,6% Split Spalato (1880): 5.280 of 14.513 - 36,4% Šibenik Sebenico (1890): 1.018 of 6.921 - 14,7% Zadar Zara (1910): 9.318 of 14.056 - 66,3%
@@pankogulo after the First World War, about 50,000 Croats emigrated from Istria to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. About 60,000 Italians immigrated to Istria by 1924 / army, civil servants, teachers/. After the Second World War, the exodus from Istria lasted until 1954. A total of about 320,000 people, among esuli there was also a large number of Istrian Croats who did not want to live under communism, their number is estimated at about 50,000.They mostly settled in North America and Australia.
I have family on both sides. For me Italian fascists and Yugoslav communists are same scum. But before Tito's killers no Croat ever started any enmity to Italians.
@@il.dalmata veneto is languge of its own not italian,also iliryc is not albanian but extinct language with no written evidence but some words preserved in today albanian language (Babiću šta si ovo izvalio i osta živ?)
nelle regioni del sud italia ci sono molti alte e biondi ma non sono tedeschi o nordici ma hanno delle influenze dalle dominazioni di secoli di normanni,svevi,balcanici,spagnoli....studia un po e capirai che l'Italia a influenzato tutto il mediterraneo e l'europa per il valore della sua mescolanza di popolazioni da 3500anni prima di cristo, il territorio italico ha influenzato tutte le discendenre delle popolazini europee. Il tuo ragionamento su altezza e colore dei capelli riguardo a una popolazione mi fa capire che devi forse andare in Italia a costatare e nel frattempo mi fa capire che forse sei anche una persona che segue dei stereotipi che fanno molti razzisti, come se dicessi che tutti i croati slavi sono dei ladri !!!
@@euge1069 ovaj vaš odgovor pokazuje kompleks ili potpun nedostatak smisla za humor,čak oboje. Jasni su mi migracijski utjecaji na sastav stanovništva na mediteranu učimo u skoli opširno o tome vjerovali ili ne. Kad uspijete prevesti i razumijeti ovaj tekst možemo nastaviti raspravu .
@@M.w.r-j9l ma mai vorrei continuare la discussione perchè la tua conoscenza è approsimativa, e nelle discussioni non ci vuole l'arroganza come mi hai dimostrato, tanti saluti
Well I looked it up and from what I could find almost all of Croatia is Roman Catholic only close to the Bosnian border it becomes more Orthodox. But still I can't find much on this church specifically
@@predragmilovanovic4710 Because of how the door looks? I don't know mate, couldn't find anything about it online, you can try to find it yourself the town is called Grožnjan
@@LewisWirth church is catholic, first it was dedicated to the Virgin Mary, and later to saints Vito, Modesto e Crescenzia./ martyrs in the Roman arena/. There were no orthodox people in this part of Istria so there are no ortodox churches. You can find montenegrinos /settled in the 17th century/ in area of Pula, so there are two orthodox churches, / St Nicolas in Pula. /previosly catholic, donated to orthodox people in 1657/, and orthodox church in village of Peroj near Pula.
churches / both Catholic and Orthodox / are built so that the altar is in the east, and the entrance door is in the west. /Jusus is like the sun, he is born in the east/ But some, for some strange reason, think that Catholic churches are built with a different orientation. You can also find churches with a different spatial orientation, but that is in cities where the construction was in some cases conditioned by urban plans / layout of streets and squares/. For examle in Zagreb the cathedral, the church of St. Mark, the church of St. Catherine, St. Jerome in Bukovečka street, and St. Paul in Retkovac have an entrance from the west / correct / side. Church of Saint Peter's Church in Zagreb has an entrance on the south side, and the Church of Saint Mary in Trnovčica, / Zagreb/ entrance from the north side.
Also it's incorrect to call them Italians. They were rightfully Venetian-speaking populations (Istro-Venetians and Dalmatians) that belonged for almost 700 years to the Venetian Republic. Schiavoni were arguably the best fighters of the Republic, also known for their deep loyalty to their Venetian flag.
Very pleased to watch your videos Lewis Wirth, visiting ISTRIA towns, that belonged to LA SERENISSIMA or the Venetian Republic of which my ancestors were citizens and I still fly the Flag !!
Sweet I'm glad you liked it that's what I wanted to share
amazing video and great content!! ur very underrated man.. deserves thousands of subs
Thanks! If you know people that you think would enjoy it too and could share it with them. That'd help me a lot
I have family living in Rijeka and they all speak Italian
I wish I spoke some decent Italian and had the chance to meet more people there that did Maybe I'll be back some day
Bro not even 2% of the population of Rijeka is Italian, according to the 2021 census its 1.45%. Your family may speak Italian, but most people do not. In the whole county of Istria, 5% are Italian. You will find more Italians living on the westernmost parts of Istria.
@@ararune3734 I'm not saying the majority speak Italian but my dad's side of the family in Rijeka do speak Italian and have Italian name's.
@@Tommie.ManicGK Fair enough, but point being, if he's looking to find more Italian speakers, he'll have more luck on the western coast of Istria (Rovinj, Pula, Portorož, etc.)
I'm surprised someone still speak Italian there, weren't all surviving Italians deported after the war?
Schiavoni were also building what you call "Venetian" today. Their names rebranded and rewritten. A lot of architecture, literature, music, technology...was done by "Schiavoni" and is attributed to Venetians today.
They’re decent a of those Venetians?
@LewisWirth No. What I'm saying is Slavic people of Dalmatia and Istra were forced to change their names in order to get jobs. Sometimes their names were changed by force or manipulation. This area is SLAVIC. CROATIAN. And more Venetian culture and architecture is done by Croatians than people will ever know.
@@cetterus Ohhh, I don't know how much of that is true but sure sounds interesting
@LewisWirth you don't know because... you never came across that info? You don't believe strangers writing stuff like that on internet to begin with? You came across a lot of other, opposite arguments so far? Sounds unreliable? You think someone would invent such data? For which reason exactly? You think this wasn't practice couple of centuries ago (again based on, preferably a lot of opposing data)?
@@cetterus It sounds plausible the architecture is probably a mix. I'm sure that this is far more the case in Pula for example Pula had quite a number of buildings that seemed roman inspired but didn't seem that old. But I find it much harder to believe that it applies to the same extent to this old little town.
And btw you're also a random guy on the internet. I just went to the town that was said to be the most Italian in Croatia on Wikipedia. This is quite an old video of mine so that was approximately the extent of my research back then. I tend to do more research now but still also value what people that I meet tell me this was very valuable in Brazil because often there wasn't much information available online. Sometimes there was barely any.
I'm still proud of how well the video turned out for me just having started making videos.
I learned a lot that I was able to improve on for my much bigger and more important trip to Latin America and all the Croatians and Italians fighting with each other in the comments did help my channel get noticed just a little bit in the beginning that was also nice.
You should watch the video from Pula, that one is arguably less well made then this one but I wonder what you'll think of that one.
Right now I'm working on a video on Italian towns that I visited in the South of Brazil.
Still thanks for your comments, and thanks for watching my video
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I am a tour guide for Istria so if you need anything ask
and visiting the graveyards, you see most names and surnames being croatian but spelled in italian (...ich)
Yeah I get what you mean, I looked a little at the names but I don’t remember them nearly that clearly I think it was a mix of both
I think the kids were talking Italian, so that's probably the dominant language in that village.
But i might be wrong... it was barely audible.
Anyway, beautiful place, and nice documentary.
i'll check. i couldn't hear nothing. just some babbling.
yeah, it sounds like italian. though i couldn't exactly make anything out either. maybe a "basta" or two and maybe a "muovati!". it didn't quite sound slavic. don't quote me.
I found out about the town based on some old census data referenced on Wikipedia. But there isn’t amazingly precise or recent information out there.
But one thing that’s for certain is that the costal region of Istria still has a lot of Italian influence including Italian families and as second language Italian is even more common there.
Yes, you are very fucking WRONG, you Italian ass-kisser !!! 😮
Confermo italiano
In Istria le indicazioni le vie e tutti i cartelli sono in lingua croata e italiana anche in municipio ci sono badiera europea croata e italiana.
@@mirkoansaldi9316 so is in Molise Italy and !?
Beware folks that Istriots and Dalmatians were largely ethnically replaced by Austro-Hungarians because they were never going to easily blend with the other Slavic territories of Austria-Hungary, like Austrians wanted. They were very loyal to their Venetian Republic and very combative. Schiavoni were arguably the best fighters of the entire Republic and that was an issue after the fall of their State, for Austrians. Needless to say that Tito completed that job and wiped them out of their lands. Centuries and centuries of Venetian-speaking and culturally-centered people completely destroyed.
Well, that's nice. You went from 1797. to 1945. without even a wink. Excellent.
The whole of Dalmatia belonged to Rome for nearly six centuries without interruption: it went then to the Italian Kingdom of Odoacre and to the Italian Kingdom of the Ostrogoths: and finally to the Empire of the East when Italy was reconquered. Venice had possession of the whole of it from the end of the XV century to the end of the XVIII century except for such temporary and partial losses which occurred in her struggles with the Turcs. Venice never gave up the islands and the towns on the Dalmatian coast not even during those short periods during which Dalmatia was partially Croat or Hungarian.
Only at the end of the XVIII century Dalmatia came under the rule of the Austrian Monarchy and only in as much as it was made an heir to the territory of the Venetian Republic. Dalmatia remained therefore even then all one with Italy. It was included in Napoleon's ephemeral Kingdom of Italy, from which it was only temporarily severed to form the provinces of Illyria. It then was restored unto Austria together with Venice and it is only from 1866 until today that it has existed politically severed from the Italian peninsula.
Therefore not only by nature art and civilisation, but also through its history, Dalmatia essentially pertains to Italy
Il conte Giuseppe Viscovich (Perasto, 1728 - Perasto, 1804) è stato un militare veneziano. Fu l'ultimo capitano veneziano di Perasto (oggi in Montenegro), ultimo territorio rimasto fedele alla Serenissima.
Il 23 agosto del 1797, dopo più di tre mesi dalla caduta della repubblica di Venezia per mano francese,i cittadini di Perasto si radunarono davanti al palazzo del Capitano della città[ per seppellire il gonfalone della serenissima. /la bandiera di guerra di Venezia fu solennemente sepolta sotto l'altare della chiesa di San Nicola/ Davanti alla folla inginocchiata, il Capitano Giuseppe Viscovich tenne un discorso in lingua slava /croata:/il Giuramento di Perasto, altrimenti conosciuto come Ti co nu, nu co ti (nella traduzione in veneto)/
ma in realtà tutto il discorso è stato tenuto in croato / mi s tobum ti s nami/
Fu tradotto in italiano dal nipote, che lo pubblicò nel libro Perasto edito a Trieste nel 1878.
e cosa c'entra la Dalmazia e Istria Veneta con l'Italia?
L'Italia fu fondata nel 1861 e ricevette Venezia "in dono" dalla Francia dopo la sconfitta dell'Austria da parte della Prussia vicino a Sadowa nell 1866./
L’Austria si rifiutò di consegnare direttamente Venezia all’Italia, cedendola invece alla Francia, e quest’ultima all’Italia./
Dream on ,never yours, never will be, you were just occupators .
Italian living in Dalmatia and Istria were the real native people of the regions. Your ancestors came after, did not contribute at all to the civilization and finally stole everything with the help of Austrians.
@@Caleidus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 chill little mussolini looser 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Caleidus
Lorenzo, buona anima
solo durante la guerra per Palma morì il 50% della popolazione istriana, per non parlare delle epidemie di peste nel XVII secolo. Durante l'epidemia del 1631 morì l'80% della popolazione, solo Parenzo scese da 780 a 28 abitanti e Pola a 30.
Venezia cercò di insediare la popolazione dalla penisola appenninica / ad esempio da Bologna nel 1657/ ma non arrivò nessuno. così Venezia fu costretta a insediare persone provenienti da Terre del mar / Dalmazia, Montenegro, Albania/
Dal XVII secolo la popolazione slava è quindi la maggioranza in Istria.
/circa il 64%/I latini / non gli italiani / rimasero la maggioranza sulla costa occidentale e nelle città più grandi dell'Istria
You have to know that Istria and Dalmatia were part of Republic of Venice in ancient times that was interested in the sea. Instead the other part of Croatia had other population.However after the Congress of Vienn the Republic of Vnice becone part of Asburgic Empire. After WW1 the fascist italians occupated Istria and Dalmatia, and these territory were united to Italy. After WW2 these territory were united to Jugoslavia. After the split of Jugoslavia was created the Republic of Croatia joining these territory with Zagabria.
I know, if I could do it again I would've explained it better but I think the end result is alright, hope you still enjoyed it. Plan to make more similar stuff a few months from now
Can you speak italian in Zagabria?
@@robertveneziani4799 Nope not really, Just parts of Istria and maybe some of the islands
Dalmatia was part of the Byzantine territory in the early middle ages. According to "De Administrando Imperio" written by the 10th-century Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII, the Croats had arrived in Roman province of Dalmatia in the first half of the 7th century.
In the early 9th century, the Eastern Adriatic coast including Dalmatia was the scene of the sphere of influence struggle between the Frankish and Byzantine Empire, but although the Byzantines have retained supremacy, Dalmatia became a meeting place between the West and the East.
It's only with the 4th crusade in 1204 that the Byzantine power could no longer be projected in the area, the Venetians started expanding and clashed with Croats and Hungarians (because Croatia and Hungary entered a personal union a hundred years prior through marriage shennanigans).
The idea that Dalmatia was Italian is just absurd, many Latins lived there, as is the case with everywhere in that era, people moved, borders weren't a thing. It's also not true that "Dalmatia and istria" had Latin population and "other part of Croatia had other population", it's simply untrue, the Latins and Slavs lived side by side and mingled. The hostilities were very limited after the Christianization of Croats. It's a story of Latins trying to project power onto eastern Adriatic, and they failed, but to say it was Italian, when there was no concept of Italy at the time, when the first Italy was created in 1861, you can see the absurdity of these claims.
United to Italy? No, annexed. My grandpa was born in Italian occupied parts of Dalmatia, I know a decent bit about it. I really don't understand where Italians get the idea that these belonged to Italy, they were occupied as part of various wars, doesn't mean they were theirs to keep. Ultimately demography is destiny.
This was for a small period, and before Croatia was independet. So why is this so important?
The most of the coastline of Croatia was formely ethnically and culturally Italian, before they fled because forced or because they didn't want to be part of Jugoslavia. You see a lot of Venice in Croatia.
You are obviously a coward and a fascist! I guess you're still crying now because Mussssssolini and that faggot D'Annnnnunzio lost? Croatian coast belong to Croatia, and you italian Piccolinni can only cry about it.!! And eat some pizza for a consolation!
Bullshit.
@@damirblazevic4823 Nope its true
@@damirblazevic4823 some people in dalmatia still have italian surnames. People were speaking Languages belonging to the romanic/italic group like dalmatian
@@keskes3304 No, it is not true.
che rabbia!
Italians have always been a very small minority in Istra. But Croatian law for minorities is one of most advanced in Europe.Bilingual names are from the time of 50's or 60's if not late 40's. This video is full of malintentional information. N.B. Italians killed more than 100 000 Croats during WW2 in Istra and Dalmatia.They hung all Croatian teachers, publicly, on the trees. Male and female.
350.000 esuli italiani da Fiume,Istria e Dalmazia.1945-1954.
italians were not small minority in istria, according to the Austrian census in 1910, 386,000 inhabitants lived in Istria, of which 38.1% (147,417) were Italians.
43,5% (168.184) were croats, 14,3% (55.134) were slovens.With the fact that Italians represented over 80% of the population in the cities of western Istria/ Kopar, Novigrad, Portorož, Umag, Rovinj...// Capodistria, Cittanova, Portorose, Umago, Rovigno..../
Acording to austrian census italians were also well represented in Dalmazia
town of Krk ( Veglia) (1880): 1.541 italians of 1.562 citises - 98,6%
Rab( Arbe) (1880): 567 of 811 - 69,9%
Pag (Pago)(1880): 785 of 3.527 - 22,3%
Boka Kotorska Bocca di Cattaro (1880): 689 of 2.949 - 23,4%
Trogir ( Trau) (1880): 1.960 of 3.129 - 62,6%
Split Spalato (1880): 5.280 of 14.513 - 36,4%
Šibenik Sebenico (1890): 1.018 of 6.921 - 14,7%
Zadar Zara (1910): 9.318 of 14.056 - 66,3%
And they all ran away - I guess with a clear conscience
@@pankogulo after the First World War, about 50,000 Croats emigrated from Istria to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. About 60,000 Italians immigrated to Istria by 1924 / army, civil servants, teachers/.
After the Second World War, the exodus from Istria lasted until 1954. A total of about 320,000 people, among esuli there was also a large number of Istrian Croats who did not want to live under communism, their number is estimated at about 50,000.They mostly settled in North America and Australia.
I have family on both sides. For me Italian fascists and Yugoslav communists are same scum. But before Tito's killers no Croat ever started any enmity to Italians.
Italiano era la lingua originiario della Dalmazia
***Venetian
Vaffa...
No it wasn't !
Albanian and then Latin !
@@il.dalmata veneto is languge of its own not italian,also iliryc is not albanian but extinct language with no written evidence but some words preserved in today albanian language (Babiću šta si ovo izvalio i osta živ?)
Nah,they are too tall and lightskinned to be Italians 😂😂😂
guess you have never been to North of Italy
@AbraXas-bi9ux i guess you didn't get the roast...
nelle regioni del sud italia ci sono molti alte e biondi ma non sono tedeschi o nordici ma hanno delle influenze dalle dominazioni di secoli di normanni,svevi,balcanici,spagnoli....studia un po e capirai che l'Italia a influenzato tutto il mediterraneo e l'europa per il valore della sua mescolanza di popolazioni da 3500anni prima di cristo, il territorio italico ha influenzato tutte le discendenre delle popolazini europee.
Il tuo ragionamento su altezza e colore dei capelli riguardo a una popolazione mi fa capire che devi forse andare in Italia a costatare e nel frattempo mi fa capire che forse sei anche una persona che segue dei stereotipi che fanno molti razzisti, come se dicessi che tutti i croati slavi sono dei ladri !!!
@@euge1069 ovaj vaš odgovor pokazuje kompleks ili potpun nedostatak smisla za humor,čak oboje. Jasni su mi migracijski utjecaji na sastav stanovništva
na mediteranu učimo u skoli opširno o tome vjerovali ili ne.
Kad uspijete prevesti i razumijeti ovaj tekst možemo nastaviti raspravu .
@@M.w.r-j9l ma mai vorrei continuare la discussione perchè la tua conoscenza è approsimativa, e nelle discussioni non ci vuole l'arroganza come mi hai dimostrato, tanti saluti
Studia meglio caro Lewis Wirth
Maybe I'm wrong, but this is an Orthodox church.
Well I looked it up and from what I could find almost all of Croatia is Roman Catholic only close to the Bosnian border it becomes more Orthodox. But still I can't find much on this church specifically
@@LewisWirth The church door looking on west?
@@predragmilovanovic4710 Because of how the door looks? I don't know mate, couldn't find anything about it online, you can try to find it yourself the town is called Grožnjan
@@LewisWirth
church is catholic, first it was dedicated to the Virgin Mary, and later to saints Vito, Modesto e Crescenzia./ martyrs in the Roman arena/. There were no orthodox people in this part of Istria so there are no ortodox churches.
You can find montenegrinos /settled in the 17th century/ in area of Pula, so there are two orthodox churches, / St Nicolas in Pula. /previosly catholic, donated to orthodox people in 1657/, and orthodox church in village of Peroj near Pula.
churches / both Catholic and Orthodox / are built so that the altar is in the east, and the entrance door is in the west. /Jusus is like the sun, he is born in the east/
But some, for some strange reason, think that Catholic churches are built with a different orientation. You can also find churches with a different spatial orientation, but that is in cities where the construction was in some cases conditioned by urban plans / layout of streets and squares/.
For examle in Zagreb the cathedral, the church of St. Mark, the church of St. Catherine, St. Jerome in Bukovečka street, and St. Paul in Retkovac have an entrance from the west / correct / side.
Church of Saint Peter's Church in Zagreb has an entrance on the south side, and the Church of Saint Mary in Trnovčica, / Zagreb/ entrance from the north side.
Study Italian story 1° war
Most italian town? WTF? 🤔🙄