Speaking German in Austrian🇦🇹 Colony in Brazil🇧🇷
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- I visited Brazil's 🇧🇷 Austrian 🇦🇹 town Treze Tílias with as German name Dreizehnlinden.
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Here am i, siting on my PC in the state of Paraíba (northeast) of Brazil, watching a vídeo of a dutch guy, in a Austrian city, inside Brazil, where people speaks German. Gotta love the internet.
Thanks mate, Brazil has many such gems all over the country and I've got a list of other ones that I'm still editing
You're in João Pessoa? I'm also from Paraíba, currently living in Russia, working in the Netherlands. Funny how the internet unites us - never thought I'd meet anyone from my homeland on the internet lol
@@devrusso Close to João Pessoa, i live in Campina Grande city.
Brazilian guy from the north of Paraná currently living in the West Midlands of England in the United Kingdom watching a Dutch guy speak German with Brazilians descended from Austrian migrants that live in Santa Catarina. Small world.
That's awesome!! I'm a mixture of Japanese with Italian living in the northwest of the state of São Paulo seeing all this, my God that's crazy. I loved the video and especially this comment
Brazil: Come to Brazil!
Austrians: Ok.
brazil is very different from the country that foreign media shows.
Which gives me an opportunity to show it here
@@LewisWirthdie beste
It's far worse than what they show
Im Tyrolean and I'm getting cultural and linguistic whiplash from this video, feels like a fever dream or an alternate reality because it loks quite Tyrolean for the most part but then some details are just off. Thank you very much for sharing!
leiwands profübüd oida
Yeah though the city has people from different parts of Austria the biggest part is Tyrollean.
Awesome comment. Liked ur perspective
Everything is so similar but you spot on a banana tree or palm tree lol
@@MarkHobbes ....and that ARAUCARIA pinus tree, that is native to Brazil. Produces the biggest pinus seed in the world, called PINHAO, that we love to eat in the June Festivals.
The wife of Pedro I, the portuguese prince who made Brazil independent and became the first emperor of Brazil, was austrian from the Habsburg family, daughter of the Austro-Hungarian emperor, she was also one of the main responsibles for the brazilian independence, encouraging Pedro to move in that direction and working to improve Brazil as an independent nation. That ´ s also the reason for the start of the germanic immigration to Brazil.
She is also the reason for the yellow color on the brazilian flag, representing the house of Habsburg.
Looks so peaceful and friendly
0:38 she actually said "toddy", which means chocolate powder. It's a brand but the name can be used interchangibly with the product.
Yeah I couldn’t figure that one out so ended up settling on this 😂
From Brazil but living abroad, thanks for showing this! I have not been to the south of Brazil yet.
It's really a must visit so many great things to see there
I’m from São Paulo but live in Italy. My favorite region here is Sud Tyrol. In Brazil the “Germanic” cities of Santa Catarina were also my favorite.
I Love this city. The food is delicious !
It really is! it's funny how much Germanic cuisine I've eaten in Latin America, also considering I haven't even posted half of it yet
Met dank aan TH-cam's algoritme ben ik hier 😄 Super leuk om te zien, ook wel bizar, een stuk Oostenrijk in Brazilië.
Zeker bizar, er zijn ook Nederlanders trouwens
@@LewisWirth Ja, ik zag je andere video(s) 👍
@@LewisWirthpra quem conhece o Brasil, não há nada de bizarro. O Brasil tem um pedaço de cada parte do mundo. É o país mais multicultural e étnico do mundo.
It isn't bizarre because Brazil is a land of immigrants.
best ytb recommendation this month! really nice to see a gringo getting to know more about Brazil's extensive immigration background. looking foward to your next videos
I live nearby, in a German city called Blumenau. I never expected youtube to recommend me this video, it's great to see people enjoying our culture.(I know is not really nearby , it just feels like it since Brazil is huge)
its not nearby lmao
Oh I’ve been there too, filmed a lot especially in smaller cities near there. I would say it was still quite a long drive, but do note I’m from a country much smaller than your entire state. So that means a bit of a different perspective
Treze Tilias is on the west of Santa Catarina, several hours away from Blumenau
@@NoThisIsntMyChannel I know, but still close in such a big country as Brasil.
@@LewisWirth Exactly, it is not that close, but I felt it was since Brasil is that big. I live in Germany now, in Bonn, and I take less then 2 hours to get to Netherlands, which support my feeling of Brasil being a giant country.
I was like "she's speaking portuguese with him, he won't understand nothing".
Nunca estive tão errado, you're a polyglot, that's awesome!
O holandês é muito semelhante ao alemão. Mais ao menos a diferença entre o espanhol e português ou no máximo o português e o italiano. Eles aprendemos inglês e alemão/francês na escola. Então, a maioria dos holandeses fala umas 3 línguas por padrão. Daí se tiverem interesse em aprender mais uma ou duas línguas, já são 4 ou 5.
não posso dizer que aprendi muito mais na escola do que uma base moderada de inglês e apenas algum vocabulário de alemão. Eu diria que a maioria dos alunos não tinha muito interesse em alemão e o currículo não era ótimo, só mais tarde comecei a aprender sozinho. com os níveis mais baixos de educação, eles abandonam a terceira língua com mais frequência, mas ainda assim, sendo um país tão pequeno e tão próximo do alemão e do francês, muitos aprendem a falar pelo menos em algum nível decente, mesmo que não os tenham na escola
@@LewisWirth O que vocês chamam básico ou nível decente, americanos e brasileiros chamam ser fluente.
Treze Tilias is an awesome place, beautiful houses without walls, very safe, calm, people are friendly and not even people born in Santa Catarina knows about it, I wonder how someone outside Brazil heard of it.
Chances are he has never heard about it. He might have heard there are places in Brazil where German is spoken. Then he opened Google and typed (where is german spoken in Brazil?).
@RogerRamos1993 actually as response to the both of you. I first got interested in this general topic during the COVID lockdowns. Frustrated with not being able to travel first I was mainly interested in its Japanese heritage cause not being able to go to Japan Brazil was one of the few countries that was open to travel. Sadly for other reasons I couldn’t go at the time but here I could finally more prepared then I’d have otherwise been. But finding out about the Japanese heritage places much less touristy then even this city was I started looking up more places which later became planning out my trip. I still remember looking at pictures on google maps of the miniature town about 4 years ago thinking about doing videos there. And after all that time only some of my ideas have been used by other TH-camrs and I’d say most of them aren’t up to a standard that I try to set for myself. Or they’re just kind of going for a different audience and atmosphere. These places are also the initial reasons why I’ve been learning Portuguese
Fucking nice! Greetings from a Brazilian living in Graz (AT)!
Thanks mate, the main cities in Austria are still on my list to visit. I’ve only ever gone skiing there which was always amazing. I think most Dutch skiers go there
Very interesting! Have a nice trip
Thank you, I will
I have twice met people from Treze Tílias (Dreizehnlinden) in Vorarlberg. One, almost twenty years ago. He told me that comes (or came) each summer to work in Austria to earn money for the house he was building back home. I assume the wages were/are much better in Austria. He had an Austrian passport and spoke German with a heavy Brazilian Portuguese accent. The other actually still lives in Vorarlberg or its surroundings, as far as I know. The way I understood it one side of his family was from Vorarlberg, the other from Italy. He was born and raised in Treze Tílias. I would have never guessed he's from Brazil, when I first met him.
Very interesting, the guy that I spoke to in this video also said he worked in Vorarlberg for a number of years and a good portion of the people there are south Tyroleans rather they're Italian is complicated but here's lots of Italians too in the state.
And I've spoken to many people about wages also in the financial center Sao Paulo and the wages are far far lower.
Even in Chile a country with one of the highest wages of the continent it's still a quarter to half a western European minimum wage or less.
But many things in daily life are cheaper unless it's imported or subject to some type of bureaucracy or tax.
In the south of Brazil there was a significant colonization by Germanic peoples and, as many communities were isolated, they preserved the language and customs (although in some regions the Hunsrückisch dialect is spoken, and in the city of Pomerode, Pommeranisch). My family came to Brazil just before the First World War, and we all still speak German, although many of the family have already returned to Germany.
I hope you're enjoying Brazil. Best regards from São Bento do Sul - Santa Catarina.
Heyyy I’ve been to Sao Bento do Sul! I’m still not sure how I’ll use the footage from there because the weather was horrible when I visited but it was a nice experience there’s many beautiful historic buildings there
Deustchland die beste ❤❤❤❤
It wasn't colonization, it was immigration, it's quite different.
@@Nathavolt I think that you are referring to the fact that they were settlers and not exploiters like most of Portuguese colonizers that just exported goods from Brazil while living in Portugal. But it was still a colonization because the Germanics moved to forest regions and built their communities from the ground up. They civilized/colonized the wilderness. It's very different than just migrating to a place that there's already infrastructure. Both settlement colonies and exploration colonies are considered colonies.
I gotta be honest i really enjoyed watching this one for no apparent reason!! Keep up the good work! ❤🎉
Thank mate! Will do!
Are you going to attend Blumenau's and/or Santa Cruz do Sul's Oktoberfest this year?
I've been thinking about it, though I don't drink and I'm not good with loud music so I'll see how it goes with editing
Just for the context, Pedro II, the last Brazilian emperor, was the son of a Habsburg princess (the sister of Napoleon’s second wife, if I’m not mistaken). That’s why when they needed to populate that region they brought immigrants from Austria, but also Bavaria and Pomerania.
5:30 not old brazilian flag, it's Ceara flag
Ohh🤦🏼♂ I just looked it up, I can see it now, thanks for the tip
I'm from Sao Paulo and moved to the south, best decision i've made
O compadre pode dizer para qual cidade? Estou perto de tomar a mesma decisão. Grande abraço!
@@RTPJu A regiao de Treze Tilias e massa. Eu como nao me dou bem com humidade nunca mais vou sair da Paraiba, cresci em SP e tenho negocios em SC, RS e PR.
@@RTPJunão tome, somos muito racistas no Sul
@@marcomartins3563 vocês são?
@@marcomartins3563 hahahahaha...é assim que eu gosto... me fala sua cidade que já vou levar a maloca inteira pra ai
Yeah, the Dutch love Austria and Tirol. Not even when we go to Brazil they leave us alone ;p
Just kidding, I love the Netherlands and the Dutch people ♥
Much love from Tirol/Austria
Yeah who's suprised we don't have any of those beautiful mountains. I did manage to do some skiing in Chile an Argentina, great experience editing that is a bit lower on the priority list though
Treze Tilias is a late migration Austrian spot in Brazil. The main group of immigrants came in the 1930s. So it is not hard to find 2nd or 3rd generation deustch speaking people around.
Deustchland die beste ❤❤❤
Legal, nunca tinha visto esse local. Obrigado.
Amazing!
I'm frm rio and visited once, amazing!
Welcome to Brasil !! In Brasil we have plenty os spaces, enough for the whole world to live, BUT....don't come and try to impose your own Laws, RELIGION, ideology and cultural rules upon us, brazilians with different backgrounds that have integrated peacefully. IF anybody want to come to Brasil, must come with a new spirit, peaceful heart/spirit, like these Asutrian/Sudtiroler people. Tchuss !!
I know where I am going next lol
Que video máximo cultura alemã e austriaca são muito interessantes.
You speak Portuguese too! Well done
Thanks mate, took me a long time to learn and I still stumble over it in Spanish mixing the two up
Most of the Austrians arrived at the invitation of Empress Leopoldina Habsburg and it is difficult to calculate how many illegal immigrants entered and when the Germans arrived there were already people speaking some dialect that helped their integration but it is worth remembering that they suffered a lot of prejudice after the Second World War.
True prejudice in some ways similar to what immigrants suffered in the United States though happily they were able to hold onto a lot more of their culture in Brazil compared to the USA
Well, that's what happened when the Germans sank Brazilian ships off the coast of Brazil during World War II. This caused the Brazilian government (and the people) to start seeing German immigrants as possible spies for the German government. The same thing happened with Japanese immigrants, since Japan sided with the Germans, while Brazil sided with the Allies/USA. After World War II ended, everyone went back to living in peace.
Nosso País é extremamente Diversificado❤ coloca legenda Português 😅
I'm from Santa Catarina State as well, my grandfather fought in WW2.
Deustchland die beste ❤❤❤
Mine scaped from WW1,coming to the south of Brazil.
Treze Tílias os the World capital of twins. The town had a rate 10 times higher than the brazilian average.
Wasn't that an other city called Cândido Godói, this guy made a video about it
th-cam.com/video/TcpGJ1uepnU/w-d-xo.html
Haven't heard this being a thing in Treze Tílias, it might be though.
By the way that guy that made the video in Cândido Godói made some ridiculous claims like the Mengele bullshit but aside from those things the video was alright
@@LewisWirth you're right.
I need to sleep. What am I doing here? 😂
Very relatable if you ask me
you've summoned the brazilians. brace yourself
PleaSe! Check the Pomeranian village! The only place where the Pomeranian is preserved 😊
I've already been there, to a few different Pomeranian villages actually.
I hope to have those videos ready soon, I'm working on another one right now
@@LewisWirth It's not the only place, in Santa Maria de Jetibá/ES they also speak Pomeranian.
É o Sul! 🟦
Estive no Sul e realmente muitas pessoas são bilíngues e este fato ocorre também em largas partes no Norte e Centro-Oeste.
Didi you go to Campos do Jordão , São Paulo ?
What’s your opinion on Brazilian hospitality compared to other countries, from your experience?
Oh it's great, that's one thing I love here.
Though I understand the rational behind the counter too like is more common in Europe.
Especially peoples eagerness to share their culture and them being okay with being filmed, I really like that.
In Europe for example this can be much harder especially western and Northern Europe.
It's not always the same but Brazil is just a different level of hospitality and I really like that.
@@LewisWirth I'm originally from Brazil, but living in London and I can agree 100% with that.
TH-cam just recommended your video, loving the content man!
If you want to understand how they got there, the DW channel made a documentary to commemorate 200 years of German immigration to Brazil.
th-cam.com/video/NxntgmVgJ0Q/w-d-xo.html&t
Oh that one is new, I watched a number of videos from DW channel they cover many such interesting topics though I find the impersonal official news outlet way of presenting with all the foreign languages being talked over kind of annoying.
That's also something I always hated about German TV where it's really common they'd turn down the volume of someone speaking English for example and then speak German over it which would basically shortcut my brain. I hope my video on the other German parts of Santa Catharina that I visited can be done soon.
Next time Title your video in TH-cam for get more views: How speak German in Treze Tílias Austrian 🇦🇹 Colony in Brazil 🇧🇷
That would make it more then 50 characters long so the important part at the end like “Brazil 🇧🇷” would get cut off for many people especially people using mobile. Plus it’s not grammatically correct. I put the city name in the description though. Most of the target audience will have never heard of it though
There are many cities/regions with strong influences from foreign countries, with many of them having a second language. It can be said that Brazil works as a back-up of several cultures from other countries, as a kind of "Noah's ark".
Gramado and Nova Petrópolis (state of Rio Grande do Sul) also have strong German influence.
In Santa Catarina state (city of Pomerode) and in Espírito Santo state (city of Santa Maria de Jetibá) the pomeranian is still spoken among the german imigrants.
In the state of Santa Catarina, there is the city of Rodeio, where the 'Italian Trentino' dialect is spoken. The region around Bento Gonçalves has a strong influence from descendants of Italians. Antonio Prado is just 83 km north of Bento Gonçalves and is considered the most Italian city in Brazil. Other cities/regions with Italian influence: Venda Nova do Imigrante and Santa Tereza (state of Espírito Santo) and Bixiga neighborhood in the city of São Paulo (SP).
Prudentópolis (state of Paraná) has a strong Ukrainian influence and Ukrainian is it's second language.
There are communities of Russian descendants in Campina das Missões/RS (largest Russian community in Brazil), Ponta Grossa/PR, Primavera do Leste/MT and Rio Verde/GO, for example, (the majority being the so-called “starovéri” - russian "old believers"), Many of them keep alive a Russian dialect and culture that is almost non-existent in Russia.
Other examples of immigrant communities in Brazil:
POLISH
Curitiba/PR - has the second largest community of Poles in the world behind Chicago USA
São Mateus do Sul/PR - is the Polish capital of Paraná, about 80% of the population is of Polish descent
Itaiópolis/SC
FINNISH - Penedo/RJ
NETHERLANDS - Holambra/SP
SWEDISH - Ijuí/RS
JAPANESE
Bairro Liberdade, in the city of São Paulo - the largest Japanese community outside of Japan.
In the city of Mogi das Cruzes/SP, many Japanese people settled mainly in agriculture (fruit and vegetable)
In Campo Grande/MS there is a large community of Japanese descendants from the island of Okinawa
CHINESE
Bairro Liberdade, in the city of São Paulo. Chinese share the neighborhood of Liberdade with the Japanese.
Recife (capital of the State of Pernambuco) is where the largest number of Chinese residents in the northeast are concentrated.
KOREANS - Bairro Bom Retiro, in the city of São Paulo.
AFRICANS: Salvador (Bahia state)
NORTH AMERICANS: Americana/SP- the Brazilian city where the heritage of the American Confederates still lives on.
I've actually visited and heard of many of the places you mentioned.
And I really like your "Noah's ark" analogy, I've thought about it in a similar way and that analogy really summarize it in a nice way even if many do assimilate, there's still some left all over the place.
Fascinating
@@LewisWirth I like to use the expression "Noah's Ark" because the freedom that Brazil gives foreigners to preserve their language and culture makes some researchers from other countries come here to research and catalog dialects that have already been lost in their own country.
In addition, the US and Europe are always on the verge of war with Russia, China is always on the verge of war or domination over Asian countries, North Korea is always eager to attack South Korea, and Israel and countries in the Middle East are currently in a brutal war... so, since Brazil is far from all this mess and has preserved the culture of many of these foreign countries... I say that Brazil is the "Noah's Ark" of these countries.
At least, until now, all immigrants have come to Brazil to escape war, famine or other reasons, but not to invade and dominate.
Emus are native to Brazil. Ostriches aren't.
Can’t find anywhere where they even as much as claim that
@@LewisWirth You may know them as emus but in Portuguese it's "emas". Ema is the original term and it has been translated to "emu" in English, for whatever reason. Emas were discovered and named in South America. Then "emu" was used for the Australian bird.
Interesting to see how the internet is anglo-centric to this extent.
@@Rasfa Oh I looked it up and it seems like they're not even the same spices just easily confused any perhaps like you said the names are related even if the species aren't. And yeah of course the internet tends to be pretty anglo centric primarily because it's the lingua franca we all use and it takes both enough reach and the right person to point it out to notice these misunderstandings
@@LewisWirth 23 years being Brazilian and I didn't knew emas were endemic...
"When the Dutch invasions of Brazil occurred, an emu appeared on the Dutch coat of arms of Rio Grande do Norte (1639)" pretty cool huh.
Come to Bahia
I'm Brazilian and I think they tried to make a second Europe in Brazil lol
Well they weren’t the first but yeah I’d agree with that. And “they” can actually refer to a number of different groups of people. From those groups themselves to the elite of the nation at the time.
@@LewisWirthyou should cover Afrikaners
@@goodputin4324 Am actually editing that one right now 🤫
@@LewisWirth Das gud!
Since you are Dutch you can visit Holambra in the state of São Paulo. However, I suspect its Dutch heritage is fake. Anyway, they have a big production of tulips.
I went there actually you can find the video on my channel. Also went to some colonies in parana but that’s not done yet. And how much of it is fake well that’s a big topic cause the German and Italian colonies and so on have some of that fake stuff too. Gramado is a good example of this it’s like a theme park beautiful but nothing historical. Did still speak with some people in German even there funny enough. But Holambra is mostly wood and plastic mockup walls which I find a bit sad. The big windmill they have is incredibly well made though it’s not history and actually only build in 2006 (or 2008 don’t remember for sure which one)
The market center is "fake", the dutch immigrants were farmers and didn't build any dutch-style thing until they became richer and wanted to promote their tulips.
@@oole0111 True I found that kind of sad, the same can be seen with South African Boer immigrants to Argentina
What about the beer garden/factory and wonderful hotels?
You should do your homework better and show more...!
Oh yeah very expensive hotels, and I don't drink.
I'd love to do more of that if it was someone else paying but I'm actually very happy with the end result of this video.
Oi video brab o irmao
lol, so you found the latinazis of brazil, They are all Bolsonaro lovers. hahah good luck!
Um dia iremos aprovar uma lei pra proibir pessoas de falar uma língua estrangeira em nosso território. O Getúlio Vargas começou mas não terminou. Essas colônias atraíram muita “gente boa” que fugiu da Alemanha na segunda guerra. Muito ruim isso!
kkkkkkkkkk, o tanto de suástica que deve ter nessas casas ai é insanidade!
Você não sabe nada de história. A maior parte dos imigrantes alemães que vieram para o Brasil, vieram no século XIX e início do século XX, antes da II Guerra.
cara deixa de ser tolo. vc é descendente de europeus, e se não fossem os europeus o nosso pais estaria atarasado até hoje. é só ver o nordeste onde eu nasci, maioria é mestiço e muitos negros, tem oportunidade de melhorarem de vida de estudar de votar certo mas não querem. É um fato quer vc queira ou não.
Os imigrantes austríacos chegaram em 1933, bem antes da Anexação da Áustria pela Alemanha, que ocorreu apenas em 1938.
Esses imigrantes foram para a região de Treze Tílias fugindo dos efeitos da crise econômica de 1929 e nada tem a ver com os na######.
Aham, vai sim 😂 estados unidos também, vai proibir se falar espanhol, confia
Visits the austrian area of brazil , does not drink beer? Opinion disgarded
Hahahaha I know