Seems like the only way forward will be active cables or fiber optics. In the short term, it sounds like they plan to have active DP 2.1 cables toward the end of the year.
The biggest problem is that no one really makes a copper cable that can handle 80 Gbit/second. I don't think 100 Gbit ethernet copper cables even exist at longer than 1 meter. At those speeds, we're pretty much exclusively at optical cables, and that makes stuff far more expensive - not just for the cable, but for the plugs as well.
I'm happy to see monitor specs finally outpacing GPU specs. For some reason displays are like power supplies to me where I only upgrade them every 5 years.
Display tech and PSU tech are honestly just two things that just don't improve at as fast a rate as everything else, so there's less reason to buy the newest one
I just found a 3 meter "VESA Certified" DP80 cable on Amazon. Low number of reviews, but they look favorable. VESA Certified 10FT Displayport Cable 2.1,16K DP Cable [16K@60Hz,8K@120Hz,4K@240Hz 165Hz], 80Gbps DP 2.1 Cable Compatible FreeSync G-Sync HDR10 HDCP 3D DSC 1.2a Gaming Monitor,TV,PC
@@klakiti02 Certainly a fake. If it's actually a certified cable it'll be listed on the VESA website in the specified length. Reviews are definitely not trustworthy, given that exactly one monitor and zero consumer GPUs actually support UHBR20. Edit: Just double checked, and the longest actually certified cables are still 1.2m
@@klakiti02There are currently no cables certified for DP80 that long, so - shocking! - that listing is BS. Most likely there never will be for passive cables, as maintaining signal integrity for that data rate over passive copper over that kind of length is essentially impossible. You'll need active cables to reach even 2m, let alone 3.
It's insane though. It's not even about having your PC close to your monitor but if your monitor is big enough, you have to have it on the correct side of your monitor too or else it won't reach
My favorite part of these new QD-OLED showings, is every video links to a site that doesn't have it in stock. That's because nowhere has it in stock. Dozens of videos on monitors you can't buy.
I can't choose right now between this Gigabyte or Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM or MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED. Is there any video comparing them side by side, especially HDR? Cause for some monitors it's only applied on the box but in reality when you turn on HDR nothing happens.
That's the kind of stuff that's done for low end LCDs, typically things rated for HDR400, that don't even have any kind of backlight control - they just know how to decode a HDR signal, but don't have the hardware to do anything with it. None of this is relevant for a high end monitor, especially an OLED one. Now, Windows isn't the best at handling HDR on a system level, but for any of these monitors there'll be a major difference in any HDR-enabled application or game. If you want more in depth data, look at HWUB/Monitors Unboxed or Rtings, they both do in depth testing of HDR functionality.
On the 18W thing: I've daily driven the M32U since it came out. I use the monitor with a 3080 for gaming and a Mac for working. When I'm using a M1 Pro MacBook, 18W is perfectly sufficient, especially when the lid is closed. I believe many folks are like me, using the windows machine for personal stuff like gaming and web browsing, and a low power laptop like a MacBook or the ultrabooks, which makes the 18W part not that annoying.
I like when reviewers actually test the features that set all these monitors apart instead of just mentioning them like an advert. Tthe KVM, the smaller screen button, VRR flicker.... But to each their own.
When you have a bit of slack on your cables (not here, I know) it is comfortable to tilt the screen towards portrait to connect everything. Also. It's nice that the stand can do portrait in the off chance that you mount the screen on another stand and you give this one to your little sibling or your SO for their setup.
at last! been waiting for 2 years for these specs (Now I'm watching the video to find that ONE thing that ever monitor has to make you go, NOPE!). We'll see.
Plot twist: the thing that makes you go "nope" isn't with the monitor, but the fact that DP80 will require hyper-expensive active cabling for any useful cable length (longest certified currently is 1.2m, will likely never exceed 1.5m for passive cables). And given that DSC isn't visible in any way, there's zero real world benefit to going without. Paying $100+ for a usable display cable, and the only difference it makes is to increase your power consumption a bit? No thanks!
Once you go OLED you can never go back. Got a steal back in 2022 for an LG C1 brand new... 4k, 48inch 120hz, 1ms, Gsync, OLED for £630. Perfect for the 4090 I purchased in December 2022. Absolutely love this monitor. Gaming on a huge screen filling your view is seriously immersive.
Literally ruins all other displays aye. I bought my first OLED TV in 2018, been waiting years for a 32inch OLED monitor for my PC. Nothing else was cutting it outside a $3000 dollar mini LED monitor at the time.
Summary The display calibration results are quite good, with an average dE2000 of 1 and a maximum dE2000 of 2.2. The chromaticity coordinates and luminance values are close to the target values. The color deviations (Delta L, Delta C, Delta H) are minimal, indicating accurate calibration. The CIE 1976 u'v' diagram shows that the measured colors are close to the target colors, which is ideal for a well-calibrated display.
Still running the AORUS 48 OLED with no issues... other than every 3 days it insists on pixel refresh for 10 minutes if i don't turn it off. AORUS will likely run a 20-30% sale this holiday at some point too based on historical norms from their new products.
To defend his point slightly I have an AW3423DW I bought about 2 years ago, and I've gone through 2 panel refreshes and I have seen absolutely no degradation, not even a hint of a line when running test images to look for burn-in. The technology has gotten a lot better. For reference I play games like Destiny 2, MMOs, Baldur's Gate 3, etc for like 6-16 hours a day, EVERY day. I do take care of my monitor and don't do productivity tasks on it.
@@maolcogi "don't do productivity tasks on it" see this is the problem with people who champion OLED. Every single time I see someone saying they haven't experienced burn-in it's because they either only use it for games or only use it a couple of hours per day. I could never use OLED in its current state because I only do a handful of hours of gaming per week but I use my monitor for like 14 hours a day. It wouldn't last a year for my use case.
@@TheFeelTrain that's fair. I can't work from home so my work computer does indeed not have an OLED. But there is a solution to your problem, two monitors. I currently have my AW3423DW (OLED) for gaming, and my older Odyssey Neo G8 (not OLED) for other computer tasks.
@@TheFeelTrainI use mine 45gr95qe for office work 8 hours a day, with about 6 hours of gaming per week. Its screen on time is 2400hrs. I use f.lux to keep brightness low but comfortable and a screensaver for when I walk away. Zero signs of burn in still.
Plouffe actually sold me on the oled monitor life, i got my self the LG variant and i think it was the best gaming purchased ive made in years. Black level alone worth it.
I get that y’all need the sponsor spots and it makes sense to do them, but I would have appreciated more comparison to other TVs at the same price point. I really loved the discussion of alternatives at the end and I wish you had negotiated the wiggle room to include other brands in said discussion.
Over a thousand dollar US for a monitor... I will wait another 5 to 10 years, hopefully by then QD OLED will be cheaper... Or something better will come out.
You guys should start testing flicker. This is (mis?)advertised as "flicker free" but does in fact flicker at an invisible to the human eye but not really that high frequency, similar to PWM on many OLED phones. This can give headaches, eyestrain etc to some users.
There is also a version with DisplayPort version 1.4, which is well stocked (at least in the Netherlands). It's the version without the "P" in the name. The DP 2.1 version is not in stock and barely available here.
To be fair, you can't take advantage yet of the DP 2.1 version, because no gaming gpu supports DP 2.1 uhbr 20 yet and if you want a gpu capable of that you need to wait for the rtx 5000 series, so untill the 50 series you can't really even fully utilize DP 2.1, so it doesn't even matter that the 2.1 version is not in stock here. I'm also dutch
2 years of using my Alienware 34" UW QD OLED for 10-12 hours a day and no burn in as of today. Love the thing and will use it until it dies before I upgrade.
I absolutely ADORE my AlienWare AW3225QF! I was gonna get the ASUS one, but they were sold out everywhere and didn't have any indications for restock, so I got one with a better warranty and customer service XD And yes, I like curves, though it's not anywhere near as deep as my G7. Looking face on, can't even see it in the AW, the G7 you can...I still love it.
I got the FO32U2 on launch and it's great. 18% more money for the FO32U2P with a port I can't utilize and short cables, not worth it IMO. I do productivity stuff on it along with some gaming. I have dynamic wallpaper, auto hide taskbar, auto screen saver, auto turn on monitor and all the oled care features turned on. If burn in happens after 4 years, then it happens. There's more important things to stress about.
Can confirm this thing is NUTS and for me the short cables are a bonus so it's altogether great! Just MAKE SURE you set DP to 1.4 or you end up with a ton of black screen and jankiness when hooked up to a dp1.4 GPU through the 2.1 cable. It's more of a future proof anyways given how few gpus even support 2.1
Still waiting for the lab to provide more detailed testing data, especially regarding response time / overshoot detailed data such as what rtings and monitor unboxed are doing. The color data is great though! I just want more data :)
Any news on oleds in 5120 by 2160 resolution range or higher? Don’t really care about refresh rate. I want it as a productivity monitor so I would be happy with 144hz.
To me my 1440p 144hz IPS monitor from LG looks fantastic. I can't even comprehend how 240hz or a 360hz monitor would feel. Moreover, how a big OLED screen would look
The short cable issue can be solved EASILY with A: Thicker cable and B: Optical Transmission. Why not here yet? The market is not here _yet._ and they will be quite expensive. Around $50+ to start with.
Nice! As an ex-owner of the Gigabyte Aorus FO48U (4K 120Hz 48"), I will probably get this as my next monitor. I am currently using a 4K 60Hz 28" monitor (massive downgrade), so look forward to getting myself an FO32U2P! The 240Hz will be remarkable vs this 60Hz I'm using now. Thanks for this review! 😊
Suggestion for highlighting results 11:00 - while the dot was OK, would be better if it was a yellow underline or yellow box when highlighting figures.
I'm currently shopping for a monitor and looking to make a decision when Prime Day rolls around. Thank you for the review, I have added this display to the contenders that I would be ok making a decision on. The other display I'm very interested in is the Alienware AW2725DF. I'm on a full AMD machine (7800X3D/7900XT/64GBDDR5-6000)
Wow, what a great feature on the press of one button. I turn my 32-inch qd-oled 24 inch to practice for esport . Just buy a cheap 1080 24inch 400hz rate
Man it's kinda wild how much data we're blastiing between gpus and monitors these days, I legitimately thought that at some point technology for transmitting more data faster would plateau and we'd just be stuck there, but we sure aren't there yet are we
Hmm, does this mean that we'll start to see motherboards and chassis with the GPU slot at the top, or chassis that are flipped 90 degrees, to put the ports at the top? :p
I wish there would be more non OLED 32 inch 4K monitors, I'm simply not gonna run OLED with how long i run my monitors. Last "upgrade" was 10 years ago. Not gonna deal with burn-in
This is at least the 5th time I have said this on a LTT video but it obviously hasn't sunken in yet-PORTRAIT MODE IS FOR PLAYING ZACCARIA PINBALL!!!! Combined with a controller, Zaccaria Pinball in portrait mode on a 32 inch high resolution monitor is the closest you can get to a real machine.
I'm actually interested now, because Plouffe said it, and I haven't had my desk against a wall in years: what percentage of people just have their PC on a desk, and their desk against the wall?
Another great video Plouffe, thanks for doing this focus on monitors for us! Almost feels like time to upgrade from my Asus PG329Q, Dope flannel by the way, brand?
I'd love a direct comparison video between some of these ~$1300 monitors and MSI's $1000. There never seems to be more than 1 thing (maybe) different, but that price gap is crazy.
I think the msi doesn't have uhbr20, regardless, there are others like lg and Samsung that have good brand new models for interesting prices. But, personal opinion, 4k 240hz is totally useless. Only way to achieve that even with a future 5090 is going full dlss frame gen, which also means enabling Nvidia and co. to push on prices even further.
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holy short cable issues
The chode of cables.
I have that problem, but my PC cables are long. 😢
Lots of bandwidth hard to push that in long cables, didn't they get some $$ cable tester? would love to see they getting used more.
Seems like the only way forward will be active cables or fiber optics. In the short term, it sounds like they plan to have active DP 2.1 cables toward the end of the year.
The biggest problem is that no one really makes a copper cable that can handle 80 Gbit/second. I don't think 100 Gbit ethernet copper cables even exist at longer than 1 meter.
At those speeds, we're pretty much exclusively at optical cables, and that makes stuff far more expensive - not just for the cable, but for the plugs as well.
This guy and his monitors 🤣
Honestly he's pretty qualified by now 😂
What do you expect? He owns a display.
dont forget his keyboards
I always forget that Plouffe is a bald king
Thumbnail: bald king
Video: hat-wearing bum
I feel cheated
He looks great though, no need for the hat!
@@virtualfilmer I agree, he looks better without the hat. not a bad looking dude
He is a hottie!
@@Collin_J LTT learns
Major Take-away : "TO EACH THEIR OWN" 😂😂😂
Now I know why they have started doing horizontal pc cases again, so you can put the monitor on top for the cable. 😅.
soon there will be no cable you just slot the monitor in place on top of the case
@@ogge8375and then it becomes an all in one again
@@ogge8375 😂 video over PCI-E 6.0 on case.
@@ogge8375 and we're right back at big box computers again
That's a laptop G. @@ogge8375
I'm happy to see monitor specs finally outpacing GPU specs. For some reason displays are like power supplies to me where I only upgrade them every 5 years.
Display tech and PSU tech are honestly just two things that just don't improve at as fast a rate as everything else, so there's less reason to buy the newest one
@@HerbaMachina That's a good point. I hadn't thought of it much before, but it makes sense.
How often do you upgrade your pc then?
4:18 Of course it's QD-OLED you can tell from the magenta tint as soon as Ray of light hits the panel 😂😂😂
The cable is that short because there is no cable able to do DP80 longer than 1.2 meters.
Yeah right now DP2.1 cables have not been made longer than 1 meter. I think we're supposed to get some certified 1.5m cables within a few months
I just found a 3 meter "VESA Certified" DP80 cable on Amazon. Low number of reviews, but they look favorable.
VESA Certified 10FT Displayport Cable 2.1,16K DP Cable [16K@60Hz,8K@120Hz,4K@240Hz 165Hz], 80Gbps DP 2.1 Cable Compatible FreeSync G-Sync HDR10 HDCP 3D DSC 1.2a Gaming Monitor,TV,PC
@@klakiti02 Certainly a fake. If it's actually a certified cable it'll be listed on the VESA website in the specified length. Reviews are definitely not trustworthy, given that exactly one monitor and zero consumer GPUs actually support UHBR20.
Edit: Just double checked, and the longest actually certified cables are still 1.2m
@@klakiti02certified by Mr. Ping in the sweatshop 😅
@@klakiti02There are currently no cables certified for DP80 that long, so - shocking! - that listing is BS. Most likely there never will be for passive cables, as maintaining signal integrity for that data rate over passive copper over that kind of length is essentially impossible. You'll need active cables to reach even 2m, let alone 3.
It's insane though. It's not even about having your PC close to your monitor but if your monitor is big enough, you have to have it on the correct side of your monitor too or else it won't reach
3-year warranty sounds nice, but us regular people expect a monitor to last more than 3 years
it's not a self-destruct timer
So your phone stops working after a year then 😹
Let's make the warranty 10 years
GIGABYTE drops first infinite warranty
Im not sure if everyone here are adults, or just kids who believe too many memes, but Warranty != Product Lifespan
My favorite part of these new QD-OLED showings, is every video links to a site that doesn't have it in stock. That's because nowhere has it in stock. Dozens of videos on monitors you can't buy.
Yeah I have been trying to buy a new glossy OLED monitor and the shit is Unobtainium.
Agreed 💯.
Now it’s easy available
14:19 legit thought someone was trying to grab those birdhouses through the monitor
I also really like the slit in the back 2:49
Lol
I thought you'd go over the KVM feature more.
The way fam was caressing the menu nipple is wild! 😮😮😂😂😂
Adobe Podcast Enhance at the beginning went brrr
If I see Plouffe and a monitor in a thumbnail, I know I'm in for a good time. Seeing his excitement over monitors is infectious!
I can't choose right now between this Gigabyte or Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM or MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED. Is there any video comparing them side by side, especially HDR? Cause for some monitors it's only applied on the box but in reality when you turn on HDR nothing happens.
That's the kind of stuff that's done for low end LCDs, typically things rated for HDR400, that don't even have any kind of backlight control - they just know how to decode a HDR signal, but don't have the hardware to do anything with it. None of this is relevant for a high end monitor, especially an OLED one. Now, Windows isn't the best at handling HDR on a system level, but for any of these monitors there'll be a major difference in any HDR-enabled application or game.
If you want more in depth data, look at HWUB/Monitors Unboxed or Rtings, they both do in depth testing of HDR functionality.
I cant find the 4K HDR Test footage they use with Andy, on YT, does anyone have the link to it?
3:50 I bought a 3225qf in may, it came with a bubble wrap + a screen protector, like this aorus
When are we going to be able to get that mouse pad Plouffe is using?
I want the specs of that panel in a 27" and with vesa mounting. Seems like the most logical replacement for my current Gigabyte IPS monitors :O
I want someone to look at me like Plouff looks at a DP80 cable
On the 18W thing: I've daily driven the M32U since it came out. I use the monitor with a 3080 for gaming and a Mac for working. When I'm using a M1 Pro MacBook, 18W is perfectly sufficient, especially when the lid is closed. I believe many folks are like me, using the windows machine for personal stuff like gaming and web browsing, and a low power laptop like a MacBook or the ultrabooks, which makes the 18W part not that annoying.
hatless plouffe in the thumbnail definitely threw me for a loop 🧐😂
Why does he sound like some ai generated plouffe at the start of the video
Yeah not sure what that was about but thought it was off…
I wish we can get a comparison of QD-Oled monitors. including the new G80sd
I like when reviewers actually test the features that set all these monitors apart instead of just mentioning them like an advert.
Tthe KVM, the smaller screen button, VRR flicker.... But to each their own.
I mean there’s actually one amazing use case where you’d want to use this portrait: playing Sound Voltex!
Eventually we will have to go back to the old ways of having the monitor on top of the pc just so the cable will reach
When you have a bit of slack on your cables (not here, I know) it is comfortable to tilt the screen towards portrait to connect everything.
Also. It's nice that the stand can do portrait in the off chance that you mount the screen on another stand and you give this one to your little sibling or your SO for their setup.
at last! been waiting for 2 years for these specs (Now I'm watching the video to find that ONE thing that ever monitor has to make you go, NOPE!). We'll see.
Plot twist: the thing that makes you go "nope" isn't with the monitor, but the fact that DP80 will require hyper-expensive active cabling for any useful cable length (longest certified currently is 1.2m, will likely never exceed 1.5m for passive cables). And given that DSC isn't visible in any way, there's zero real world benefit to going without. Paying $100+ for a usable display cable, and the only difference it makes is to increase your power consumption a bit? No thanks!
Once you go OLED you can never go back. Got a steal back in 2022 for an LG C1 brand new... 4k, 48inch 120hz, 1ms, Gsync, OLED for £630. Perfect for the 4090 I purchased in December 2022. Absolutely love this monitor. Gaming on a huge screen filling your view is seriously immersive.
Literally ruins all other displays aye. I bought my first OLED TV in 2018, been waiting years for a 32inch OLED monitor for my PC. Nothing else was cutting it outside a $3000 dollar mini LED monitor at the time.
Summary
The display calibration results are quite good, with an average dE2000 of 1 and a maximum dE2000 of 2.2.
The chromaticity coordinates and luminance values are close to the target values.
The color deviations (Delta L, Delta C, Delta H) are minimal, indicating accurate calibration.
The CIE 1976 u'v' diagram shows that the measured colors are close to the target colors, which is ideal for a well-calibrated display.
Still running the AORUS 48 OLED with no issues... other than every 3 days it insists on pixel refresh for 10 minutes if i don't turn it off. AORUS will likely run a 20-30% sale this holiday at some point too based on historical norms from their new products.
Hasn't experienced burn-in.
Upgrades monitor roughly once per year.
To defend his point slightly I have an AW3423DW I bought about 2 years ago, and I've gone through 2 panel refreshes and I have seen absolutely no degradation, not even a hint of a line when running test images to look for burn-in. The technology has gotten a lot better.
For reference I play games like Destiny 2, MMOs, Baldur's Gate 3, etc for like 6-16 hours a day, EVERY day. I do take care of my monitor and don't do productivity tasks on it.
@@maolcogi "don't do productivity tasks on it" see this is the problem with people who champion OLED. Every single time I see someone saying they haven't experienced burn-in it's because they either only use it for games or only use it a couple of hours per day. I could never use OLED in its current state because I only do a handful of hours of gaming per week but I use my monitor for like 14 hours a day. It wouldn't last a year for my use case.
@@TheFeelTrain that's fair. I can't work from home so my work computer does indeed not have an OLED. But there is a solution to your problem, two monitors. I currently have my AW3423DW (OLED) for gaming, and my older Odyssey Neo G8 (not OLED) for other computer tasks.
@@TheFeelTrainI use mine 45gr95qe for office work 8 hours a day, with about 6 hours of gaming per week. Its screen on time is 2400hrs. I use f.lux to keep brightness low but comfortable and a screensaver for when I walk away. Zero signs of burn in still.
Plouffe actually sold me on the oled monitor life, i got my self the LG variant and i think it was the best gaming purchased ive made in years. Black level alone worth it.
That cable is the same width as the monitor 💀
I get that y’all need the sponsor spots and it makes sense to do them, but I would have appreciated more comparison to other TVs at the same price point. I really loved the discussion of alternatives at the end and I wish you had negotiated the wiggle room to include other brands in said discussion.
Why did the voice sounds so weird at the start
Puberty
Most likely it's noise removal, I think he leaned the box on his mic
Over a thousand dollar US for a monitor... I will wait another 5 to 10 years, hopefully by then QD OLED will be cheaper... Or something better will come out.
What makes you think the "something better" will be cheaper? It'll come along and be even more expensive.
When domething better comes out it will be 1000 or over
The new one will be, but this one will go down, is what I believe he meant.
Let's be realistic here, a 4k monitor that's qd OLED with optimized bandwidth will not be "cheaper" within the next 10 years
@@AKBzz Eh, there are now 144hz 4k panels that would have been $900 just 5 years ago. (Going for $400)
I thought that monitor didn’t have speakers. 😮
You guys should start testing flicker. This is (mis?)advertised as "flicker free" but does in fact flicker at an invisible to the human eye but not really that high frequency, similar to PWM on many OLED phones. This can give headaches, eyestrain etc to some users.
Can confirm. I tried out the non-DP2.1 variant and had to return it because it gave me headaches.
@@Mhuahaha Good to know I'm not the only one 🙏
I ordered yesterday an Gigabyte Aorus FO27Q3 and called the day !
There is also a version with DisplayPort version 1.4, which is well stocked (at least in the Netherlands). It's the version without the "P" in the name. The DP 2.1 version is not in stock and barely available here.
To be fair, you can't take advantage yet of the DP 2.1 version, because no gaming gpu supports DP 2.1 uhbr 20 yet and if you want a gpu capable of that you need to wait for the rtx 5000 series, so untill the 50 series you can't really even fully utilize DP 2.1, so it doesn't even matter that the 2.1 version is not in stock here. I'm also dutch
@@luukherfst1209Doesn’t the RX 7000 series support UHBR 20?
2 years of using my Alienware 34" UW QD OLED for 10-12 hours a day and no burn in as of today. Love the thing and will use it until it dies before I upgrade.
In the UK it is on pre-order for 1,299 GBP which is equivalent to 2,263.95 CAD
Short circuit once again supplying Plouffe’s addiction to OLED monitors
That was a great review and a great video.
I absolutely ADORE my AlienWare AW3225QF! I was gonna get the ASUS one, but they were sold out everywhere and didn't have any indications for restock, so I got one with a better warranty and customer service XD
And yes, I like curves, though it's not anywhere near as deep as my G7. Looking face on, can't even see it in the AW, the G7 you can...I still love it.
I got the FO32U2 on launch and it's great. 18% more money for the FO32U2P with a port I can't utilize and short cables, not worth it IMO. I do productivity stuff on it along with some gaming. I have dynamic wallpaper, auto hide taskbar, auto screen saver, auto turn on monitor and all the oled care features turned on. If burn in happens after 4 years, then it happens. There's more important things to stress about.
Hurry up with the 21:9 versions of these manufactures, please! lol. One day.... one.... day.....
Can confirm this thing is NUTS and for me the short cables are a bonus so it's altogether great! Just MAKE SURE you set DP to 1.4 or you end up with a ton of black screen and jankiness when hooked up to a dp1.4 GPU through the 2.1 cable. It's more of a future proof anyways given how few gpus even support 2.1
Still waiting for the lab to provide more detailed testing data, especially regarding response time / overshoot detailed data such as what rtings and monitor unboxed are doing. The color data is great though! I just want more data :)
Thank you for the peel of the century.
12:30 when I found this out I got mad. I upgraded to a 7900 xtx because of dp 2.1. Misleading marketing at it's finest.
Even at UHBR13.5 that is still more bandwidth (54Gbps) than HDMI2.1 and significantly more than DP1.4.
@@SolarianStrike Yeah. DP 2.0, which is essentially what's on those GPUs, can do 4k 144 without compression.
I’m so glad he survived the keyboard incident
Any news on oleds in 5120 by 2160 resolution range or higher? Don’t really care about refresh rate. I want it as a productivity monitor so I would be happy with 144hz.
To me my 1440p 144hz IPS monitor from LG looks fantastic. I can't even comprehend how 240hz or a 360hz monitor would feel. Moreover, how a big OLED screen would look
Had mine for around a month, love it, yeah the DP2.1 cable is comically short.
The short cable issue can be solved EASILY with A: Thicker cable and B: Optical Transmission. Why not here yet? The market is not here _yet._ and they will be quite expensive. Around $50+ to start with.
I wish more of the monitors come with digital audio out.
brilliant review can i ask how come you did not go for msi or asus 4k
Monitors Unboxed did a video on Dp 2.1 cables and does go into detail about the speeds and 2.1 with compression.
Nice! As an ex-owner of the Gigabyte Aorus FO48U (4K 120Hz 48"), I will probably get this as my next monitor. I am currently using a 4K 60Hz 28" monitor (massive downgrade), so look forward to getting myself an FO32U2P! The 240Hz will be remarkable vs this 60Hz I'm using now. Thanks for this review! 😊
Suggestion for highlighting results 11:00 - while the dot was OK, would be better if it was a yellow underline or yellow box when highlighting figures.
What's that video you use for HDR?
I'm watching this while I unbox and set up my two 27" 1440p monitors 🤣
I'm currently shopping for a monitor and looking to make a decision when Prime Day rolls around. Thank you for the review, I have added this display to the contenders that I would be ok making a decision on. The other display I'm very interested in is the Alienware AW2725DF. I'm on a full AMD machine (7800X3D/7900XT/64GBDDR5-6000)
Use portrait to plug everything in
Plouffe tries not to upgrade his monitor every 6 months challenge. Difficulty: impossible 😂
Btw, I've had the same AOC 2460PG since 2017, so chill out Plouffy boy.
How long is the included cables actually? 1m?
Wow, what a great feature on the press of one button. I turn my 32-inch qd-oled 24 inch to practice for esport . Just buy a cheap 1080 24inch 400hz rate
This guy gives leniency to high end product but nitpick every budget product. Way to go Plouffe.
the link for the product isnt working
Only AMD cards support DP 2.1 at the moment, just so people know. I used to use the vertical option for Pinball-games, so there you go Plouffe!
Man it's kinda wild how much data we're blastiing between gpus and monitors these days, I legitimately thought that at some point technology for transmitting more data faster would plateau and we'd just be stuck there, but we sure aren't there yet are we
Didn't think I'd live to see the day Unboxed Theraphy does a ShortCircuit episode. 🤣❤
Hmm, does this mean that we'll start to see motherboards and chassis with the GPU slot at the top, or chassis that are flipped 90 degrees, to put the ports at the top? :p
What's the benefit of DP 2.1 when there is no visual loss by using DSC....
Access to Nvidia features that are locked when using DSC, shorter alt tab times between full screen apps, ability to daisy chain monitors.
@@George-um2vc Which Nvidia features?
@@cask-uk DSR, DLDSR, more I think but those are the ones that I know of coz I use them.
I wish there would be more non OLED 32 inch 4K monitors, I'm simply not gonna run OLED with how long i run my monitors. Last "upgrade" was 10 years ago. Not gonna deal with burn-in
Can we have more 1440p monitor test please?
Would the monitor use ubhr 13.5 or automatically switch to uhbr 10?
It's ok Plouffe all you gotta do is get Linus to sign your old monitor and sell it for profit then you can buy this one. lol
Can't wait for the video where they try to find Wich monitor uses dp at 80gb vs one that uses dp with compression xD
6:09 flick that bean!
This is at least the 5th time I have said this on a LTT video but it obviously hasn't sunken in yet-PORTRAIT MODE IS FOR PLAYING ZACCARIA PINBALL!!!! Combined with a controller, Zaccaria Pinball in portrait mode on a 32 inch high resolution monitor is the closest you can get to a real machine.
I noticed the QD panels look magenta while the W's are pitch black.
I'm actually interested now, because Plouffe said it, and I haven't had my desk against a wall in years: what percentage of people just have their PC on a desk, and their desk against the wall?
My first thought was how are you going to supply it with DP2.1 signal... It's too early to be hyped for this feature and overpay for it.
Another great video Plouffe, thanks for doing this focus on monitors for us! Almost feels like time to upgrade from my Asus PG329Q,
Dope flannel by the way, brand?
No DSC should mean slightly lower latency (no compression/decompression). The difference in appearance is supposed to be imperceptible.
LOL at usage time. Yeah, read the fine print of your warranty!
6:47 Except it's NOT nVidias problem, it's the card owners problem since nVidia decided to cheap out on the ports.
in a year this monitor is 50% cheaper if not cheaper than that.. keep holding guys!
Thought techtone made an appearance
I'd love a direct comparison video between some of these ~$1300 monitors and MSI's $1000. There never seems to be more than 1 thing (maybe) different, but that price gap is crazy.
I think the msi doesn't have uhbr20, regardless, there are others like lg and Samsung that have good brand new models for interesting prices.
But, personal opinion, 4k 240hz is totally useless.
Only way to achieve that even with a future 5090 is going full dlss frame gen, which also means enabling Nvidia and co. to push on prices even further.
That might just be me, but where I live at least the FO32U2P is cheaper than both the MSI and ASUS model, and at that price, I think it's perfect.
Plouffe the goat
great product review, fyi the other model did come with peel protector now too