@@Smeedia Thanks for the best content on Subaru modification, great quality information and best advice out there. I have told you before after your videos my knowledge surprises mechanics and other enthusiasts, you should be on the educational section of TH-cam.
Thanks for the video! Definitely liking this 09 WRX I just got. Any suggestions for the 5spd glass box trans we got? Heard pretty much only a couple of ways to beef it up...
Ok not that anybody asked, but for the EJ smart guys out there that are curious. That MAP stage 2 tune for the 15 plus STi uses a flat flange down pipe, rather than the bellmouth design used by Cobb to create the ots maps. The mechanical restrictions on the MAPerformance DP allow them to run an intake with it. So if anyone is curious, doing what MAPerformance did, but with Cobb parts will lean the car out. The flat-flange downpipe has a similar design to the oem Downpipe, a wall with two holes, and a divorced section. This barrier limits the turbos ability to spool mechanically because the forces have smaller chambers to escape through, therefore, you run less boost through mechanical limitation. The intake they use isn’t volumetrically larger or crazy less restrictive than the oem version. The filter and piping amount to a safe level of air flow restriction. Cobb on the other hand, the filter is thinner and larger in certain sections that your MAF will notice. Also the Cobb downpipe is a bellmouth design, meaning it’s basically not restricted until you hit the cat. With this you can hit boost targets, but you have the ability to overshoot them as well. Couple this with a Cobb intake on an OTS map and you will run lean due large volumes of air over running what the fuel system can provide. The MAF calibration is 389 gallons a sec for the oem tune, stage 1, and 2 (excluding 1+sf) maps. And it’s damn near 500 for I think for the SF intake calibration on stage 1 lol. Most downpipes you can get are bellmouth. There are a few offerings of the flat-flange design available from MAPERFORMANCE, Grimm speed, and HKS I think. I’m not shitting on anyone or what they want but Smeedia is right, you will lean your car out, and the examples you see are either stage 3, mechanically limited or doing it wrong/running lean. It can’t be done on an OTS map and it ends up being that you can’t have your cake and eat it too in terms of mechanical limitation.
Interesting, did not know they altered the downpipe to accommodate for it. I am curious if its even worth buying though. If your handicapping the downpipe with intentions of making more power later on it seems like it wouldn't be a worth while purchase for a short term use of an OTS Tune
@@Smeedia I wouldn’t recommend it as a temporary part either. The design still provides plenty of room for more power, I was just explaining how MAPerformance makes it work. It’s kind of like, if you’re good with stage 2, there’s a way I guess to have it. But yes, now you’re dealing with mechanical limitation. If you had a flat flange downpipe, use a LWG OTS map. You have to download them from the website though. You are right on all accounts bro, I’m just adding that, we see offerings like MAP that use an intake with a downpipe, but they are doing it a very specific way. The only choke point is up top with the flat flange downpipe versus the bell mouth. The intake provides a larger mesure of airflow but it’s restricted through the piping , filter density and the MAF calibration on the tune I’m sure. It’s a stage 2 specific solution, but I think they did that’s because stage 2 seems to be the common level to stop at. Like if all you want is stage 2 power, here’s how you can do it with an intake. The flat flange design will still hold up to stage 3 power I’m sure, but you have enough mechanical limitation to run an intake on stage 2 with stock injectors I guess. Like I said I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying it’s done with specific parts. It’s not something you can do with all parts out there on offer though is where I’m going with this. The Cobb OTS tunes are MAF based and they all use the oem MAF calibration. The Stage 1 plus sf is the only exception to the ots maps. That’s why dudes commonly run lean on stage 2 ots maps. The bellmouth design is enough flow for the injectors already, so the addition of the intake demands more fuel. However the flat-flange design doesn’t overwhelm the injectors like the capability of the bellmouth does at stage 2. So it allows for an intake at this stage. But this only works if you’re staying stage 2. You still can’t run a stage 3 map with out the inlet and fueling anyway. So it’s not a disadvantage it’s just works like that if you’re staying within the limits of stage 2.
Wow, literally one of the if not the best subaru channels. So glad you mentioned downpipe and intake on 15+ STI isn't a good idea without upgrading injectors, very solid point people miss. Only thing I wish is that you explained why.
I've touched on it a lot in prior videos, but the 15+ "makes more power" and caps the OEM fuel system a lot quicker than older models did. Thats why Cobb and a few others do not carry a stage 2+ OTS Map 🙏 the car will run lean, start to pull timing and not be a happy camper 😖
Woooohhh! No one ever mentioned that before. I went with MAPs stg 2 kit and there was nothing about upgrading fuel. See link. I new the turbo was a bit bigger but I didnt think it would max the fueling. Do you suggest pump upg too? When he said that in the video I crapped a brick! Definitely subscribing. www.maperformance.com/products/map-stage-2-package-2015-subaru-wrx-sti-sti-4g-s2
Good information as always. First thing I did was install the Cobb AOS on my 15 WRX, as you recommended for reliability from a previous video. Cant wait to see that EG33 go in.
as an fa owner i approve of your message! that sti drive train swap had me anxious for months. now i have bought a 4runner so thats my new project so the wrx is on hold. luckily i didnt buy a 4X4 so i wont be tempted to lift her as soon.
@@Smeedia i really like it so far. It has the 4.7 v8 so its got plenty of torque. Its 15 years old and is equal or better in paint condition than my 18 wrx. If i wasnt looking at the 162k on the odometer i wouldn't know any better.
I'm not going to assume you remember my comment as it was way back in February when I got my 2020 wrx and found your channel. But hell yeah I've been waiting for this type of video ever since I asked you back then about what you recommend on getting to modify the car priority wise. You even replied and said that would be a video worth making for sure in the future. You did not disappoint 👍
@@Smeedia I'm absolutely enjoying it! Love that I can add power and still have a good gas mileage. I'm taking car of the car like I never had before with any other car. I'm keeping the interior fresh as well as the exterior. I plan to get the car to a stage 2 at least then put a roof tent to take it out on all sorts of adventures.🏔️🏞️🏕️
🤯 mine blowing!!! Great information my dad and I are saving for a wrx to get my younger brother he likes your videos and you dont leave anything unsaid. Awesome stuff as always✌
Man I been watching all your videos for several days now. AmAzing channel, great content, very informative and I appreciate all of it. Thank you! You’ve helped me make several decisions and changes in my mind at the same time. 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼
Great content! Always enjoy and appreciate your videos. Been a subaru owner for almost 2 decades, bought my brand new 2012 WRX Hatch, and only done one thing to it since I bought it, stoptech brakes. With your advice, I have a better idea of what direction to go with and mod the WRX. Keep up with the videos bro!
Your channel made me buy my bugeye hacth so far iv removed the ej205 and fitted a ej207 shortblock with rcm 11mm headstuds and rcm headgaskets ej205 heads with shimless bucket conversion with 12mm oil pump cobb sf intake process west tgv delete process west tmic grimmspeed aos vf34 1200cc injectors down pipe with 3inch xforce exhaust mishimoto turbo coolant tank and 40mm alloy rad so im waiting on running it in then fuel pump and pro tune as its on run in tune atm so hopefully it makes decent power
Wow this is a very good video. Good attention to detail for those in our subie community to make power 🔋and not screw your car up. Me I'm a stock guy. I have a 2017 base model WRX and my next car will be the new STI. A great channel. Stay safe brother. Subies forever guys and gals
@@Smeedia Man I really appreciate you taking the time to educate us about the WRX and the STI. It will helpme going forward. Have a good weekend brother and stay safe. 🙏😀
My goal for my FA baby it's a 300whp+. I'm currently running an Invidia N1 catback and stage 1 Cobb. The only thing that really stop me it's the money. 🥲
@@Smeedia I'm trying to save money to get a catted downpipe and a tune at the same time. I live in VA so the emissions requirements are a pain in the ass.
Great video own a 18 wrx worked for Subaru for 2 years one thing I would add that would be informative to know is how much power the stock blocks can handle because once you do a stage 3 your already risking how much power the stock block can handle
something to add for FAs: the stock turbo with some porting work is plenty capable. the flow rate is only 1 lb/min from an FP blue, and it is half the price. I think this is more valuable than just running big turbo, as ultimately even at lower power levels it helps maintain boost at higher RPMs (in stock form by red line you are at less than half of peak boost) also, EGR can just be unplugged! makes sense if you want to remove clutter but effects are the same as a delete. otherwise, definitely a great starting place for those needing a crash course on how to mod their car!
@@Smeedia I mean besides the slight upgrade to the brz intake whats the other options besides a custom fab. Made one. But definitely looks interesting lots of parts.
2:35 you can run an intake, downpipe, and exhaust for 15+ stis. I ran that set up for a year before I did fueling upgrades. I was protuned so I don't know if that makes a difference but you can do that
All they do with the protune is dial boost down so your not fully utilizing the parts, OTS Tunes won't support it either. Car will run lean and throw CELs. You can run them but you won't see any gains
@@Smeedia i would peak at 19lbs sometimes 20lbs. Never ran lean or threw any cel codes. As far as power I was around 300whp and 320tq which around the typical "stage 2" numbers. Only hiccup the the car had was it over bossted once cause I was running a catless downpipe
With the FA would I still need the cylinder 4 cooling mod, and any other fueling upgrades? Not planning to go much more crazy then stage 2+. I just got my 17 wrx like a month ago. Love the channel always awesome content.
So I plan on putting a upgraded radiator, fuel oil separator, cylinder 4 cool, before getting a access port would that be a good start? I’ll also wait and put everything in at once accessport downpipe exhaust headers intake, I just wanna have a daily with a kick not focused on big numbers but I’d be happy with 300 tho, I have a 09 wrx , just put a new turbo(stock size) and replaced the engine(30kmiles) I keep watching and rewatching your videos they have been tremendously helpful so thank you and please keep it up 🙏🏼
Glad they help my friend and that would be a perfect place to start 🔥 the AOS AND cyl 4 cooling mod will help with longevity then jump into some power goodies
Ooooh... on the FA20 just UNPLUG the EGR!!! If you ever, EVER have to return to stock for any reason (like me currently), being able to plug the EGR back in and unmarry the AP will save you a LOT of headache!!
Your not fully deleting EGR by just unplugging it though, subsru can also see if you've married an AP to the weather you unmarry it or not as well. The car records ECU flash data and they will know its been modified
@@Smeedia Copy that - I was thinking more about sourcing OEM parts, if you throw out the OEM EGR parts deleted :^) Definitely true, dealership can definitely see flash count on the ECU.
I know i am 8 months late😂 what i am understanding is doing a ots tune is okay, but for better performance do you recommend getting with a tuner and getting a pro tune? Or should you get a pro tune when your done with all modifications?
I have a base Map from Cobb NMS Tunning Stage 2+ for a intake and catted dp(4th day on this map) (DP really freed the turbo smell don't know how I feel about it lol) Have not passed 8 psi but um, if I want to run this combo, all I need is the fuel pump, injectors, and a ebcs right? or do I need something else like fpr or fuel rails or anything else for reliability. I'd asked my tuner but I trust you more your contents really helped me out so much. I ordered the new IAG AOS street series and a cylinder 4 cooling mod last week good to know I'm on track lol. edit: Im planning on upgrading injectors next week cause this combo scares me as you said many times in your videos you don't recommend.
I would add st minimum the Cobb FPR, it helps smooth out fuel flow and gets rid of most of the fuel stumble around 3.8K in the RPM range. No need to go full rails and lines if you don't need to 🙏
Quick question. I have a 2015 WRX. I am on the Stage 2 Cobb map 91 oct. I have the cobb resonated jpipe and intake. I have the IAG street series AOS, but have not had enough time to install yet. Thank you for the suggestion on this by the way. You had mentioned decreasing rev hang with cat back exhaust. Do I have to change the mufflers from stock ones as this is not required to run the stage 2 map. FYI I am planning on getting protuned soon, but figuring out my build. Thanks again for the amazing channel!! Respect!!
The stage 1 OTS map will clean up the rev hand, a cutback alone unfortunately will not. You can use the stock cutback also of youd like with the J pipe set up without issue 🙏
Hey Tanner bro, is it better to stick with as many parts as it's possible or makes sense from the same manufacturer so that the OTS tuning is easier and more straightforward instead of mix matching parts from companies that had all different ideas in mind on how to build a system. For example wouldn't it save you a lot of headache to buy most of what your talking about from say grimmspeed and one of their stage packages since OTF is my only option and there is no Dyno in Hawaii that will do all wheel drive? Obviously Grimmspeed I would hope designed all their parts to work together well in a complete system such as other manufacturers. I know you can't do EVERYTHING the same manufacturer I'm just talking about the basics here that your referring to in this video. Thanks for everything man!!!! 🤙
Since your in Hawaii an Etune would be a better option for you. But if you were to stay with OTS it would be most beneficial to stick with one manufacturer and their OTS tunes as the tunes were designed to work with their parts 🙏😁
Great video bud, when do I need to upgrade the intercooler? Did I miss that? Although, I’ve already lost $90k in lost wages this year so it’ll be a while before I can buy more parts..... stupid Covid:(
No sir, they have plenty of stock block turbo applications on the market. The fa20s weak point is the connection rods but they can handle a little bit of power before needing to be built
Recently started to mod my 09 wrx (Australia) running the ots 2+ with downpipe and intake runs well minimal knock and dam holds strong Starting to collect my next bunch of mods just wanted your opinion on when to add a better top mount ? Love your videos Cheers man
Appreciate the support my man! Once you start doing fueling mods such as fuel pump and injectors would be a good time to swap it out. Thr GR intercooler are pretty small and pretty inefficient
Thanks for another great video. One question, though. Aside from the accessport, are the recommendations the same for the 2015 JDM ej20 motors? In terms of fuel system upgrades etc? Having trouble determining what parts are interchangeable between the ej25 and ej20. I don't want to end up buying a load of incompatible parts.
Tanner what’s up my dude.I have a 17 sti same build as yours same turbo,etc cars been running fabulous since I got it back from dyno on the 14th today on the highway drive home just driving normally car threw a code PO4F0 Evap System High Pressure Purge Line (CPC2) Perf any ideas were to troubleshoot to look for still have my evap checked the forums but haven’t seen to much on the code anywhere
Is running a Cobb SF Intake and a AWE Track exhaust reliable on the OTS tune? Or will it be a better idea to get an E-Tune. I am debating whether to get an E-tune or pro tune. The pro tune is twice as expensive but would love to know your opinion. I believe this is stage 1+. Just want to have a reliable subaru with that rumble :). Love your videos. They are very informative but would love to know your opinion on my situation.
Hey Tanner, If a mod list looks like this, what would you recommend on it? Catback Intake Downpipe Boost control solenoid Fuel pressure regulator Fuel pump Fuel injectors IAG street aos Pro tune. Thanks!
Any assumptions for power gain break down of stages. Obviously the intake stage isn't worth mentioning but what about the downpipe stage ect. I've read the numbers but more curious about your experience / the numbers you beleive it does!
Protunes i can't really guess on but for stage 2 in the STI you'd be looking a t around 265WHP/270WTQ ISH as for the FA20 WRX I wouldn't even have a guess for it 😅
Just got a '13 WRX. Already had a AP, but just ordered cylinder 4 mod, AOS, and intake. Excited to get full exhaust down the road and either lowering springs or coilovers.
Brother, I didn't understand what you were saying about ext wastegates. To be more specific, I thought the way of choosing wastegates depends on how much horsepower would you like to possess, I mean, for instance, 700hp require better emission, therefore, you have to acquire wastegate with a larger outlet. Am I right or I understand it incompletely?
You are correct, buy for 90% of the builds out there a single 38mm or a single 44mm will get the job done. But your right, for example on the EG33 build ill be using two 38mm EWGs
I have a 2020 wrx running the Cobb air intake big sf with the ots stage 1+ 91 with a custom cat back 3 inch with a boomba bpv I should be fine like, if I’m not planning on pushing power right? I’m thinking of added my street series AOS separator in, just to be safe ? I’m trying to do it without a pro tune what you think ?
@@Smeedia Forsure I’ll be installing the OAS soon and thank you I’ve been following you for a bit now and I’ve tried to watch most videos of yours and they really helped a lot thank you 🥹👌🏽🤞🏽
My 2018 WRX FA20 is FBO with 15K miles and awaiting protune. Everything; headers, full tgvs, FF, etc. I bought one step colder plugs (Denso). Should I install them or get new stock NGK's? I emailed my tuner last week, but he hasn't responded.
What's the suggestion for a invidia catted down pipe and n1 exhaust stock turbo and a Cobb cold air with a aluminum filter housing on an 08 WRX and no get rid of it and buy a 12+ isn't a good answer
@@Smeedia huzzah I need an access port they kept it it's a beater runs pretty strong so my next question is is the tune still in the car or did it go with the AP?
The low pressure pump in the tank helps to feed to high pressure pump, swapping over to a higher flowing pump means more fuel. And AEM of DW are good options 🙏😁
I’ve heard multiple stories of people running about 1-2 gallons of e85 to their fuel to top it off without a tune or flex kit. Anyone know if this is TRUE and can confirm before I put some in my Rex today, I’ve read too many back and fourth opinions on this
I’m on flex fuel right now with the stock fuel lines and and rails with ID1050s. Does a ebcs help with a stock turbo? What exactly does a aftermarket boost controller help with?
I defer to you on engines in a Subaru. You are a boxer engine guru, so I would be a dumb ass fool not to. But I have one question for you that revolves around reliability, a subject near and dear to you and me. For engines that will be revving high consistently, secondary torsional vibrations can be a killer most certainly. I was told and am sold on a high quality crank shaft damper to drastically reduce or eliminate that vibration and consequently eliminate that destructive situation. What about you, are you of the same mind on a damper too? (To come up with that technical rhyme, was challenging and took me a little bit of time!)
Lol I like it! I will be using a super dampened on my car, I've seen people swap to light weight pulleys without any type of dampener but having it on there should help to clean up a lot of it
Hey so I recently got a egr/tgv delete on my 15’ wrx, I currently have a remark axle back and a Crawford aos v3. I have the stage 1 Cobb ots tune and I was just wondering if the only way to get rid of the CEL from the deletes is getting an etune/protune?
For a 15+ wrx, can you run an intake and J-pipe at the same time. Might of got confused in the beginning where you say you can’t or is that just for an STI?
Hey Smeedia, Watched your videos on mods that will and will not void your warranty... you never mentioned cylinder 4 cooling system! Will that void my warranty?
I've never used the Cobb 20G before so I can't speak on it too much. But the Cobb turbo maxed out around 400QHP while the FB blue is capable of around 450WHP. Spool is relatively comparable between both turbos as well as cost 🙏
If it already has a protune and you connect an access port it will wipe the ECU and you will lose the tune that is already on the car. If you can get the map you can upload it onto the acessport and put it back on the car
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Probably the most underrated TH-camr for information on Subaru's that you can only find in the forums. Appreciate you!!
Anytime! Always appreciate the support and hoping the videos help some peeps out 🔥😁
A crash course into Subaru tuning. This is EXACTLY WHAT WE ALL NEED, a road map of what there is ahead before going into the 🐇 hole.
Oh my friend the rabbit hole goes so much deeper! Hopefully it helps some newer owners out 🔥😁
@@Smeedia Thanks for the best content on Subaru modification, great quality information and best advice out there. I have told you before after your videos my knowledge surprises mechanics and other enthusiasts, you should be on the educational section of TH-cam.
Thanks for the video! Definitely liking this 09 WRX I just got. Any suggestions for the 5spd glass box trans we got? Heard pretty much only a couple of ways to beef it up...
Moore blast plates for the trans 🙏😁
@@Smeedia much thanks my man
Two words; unibomber’s manifesto. This is a great mods list to reference the aforementioned for best/most efficient parts.
Unibombers got a ton of good info on NASIOC 🔥
I love this guy, the way he explains things, makes it easy and quick to understand. He should have been a school teacher!
Ok not that anybody asked, but for the EJ smart guys out there that are curious.
That MAP stage 2 tune for the 15 plus STi uses a flat flange down pipe, rather than the bellmouth design used by Cobb to create the ots maps. The mechanical restrictions on the MAPerformance DP allow them to run an intake with it. So if anyone is curious, doing what MAPerformance did, but with Cobb parts will lean the car out. The flat-flange downpipe has a similar design to the oem Downpipe, a wall with two holes, and a divorced section. This barrier limits the turbos ability to spool mechanically because the forces have smaller chambers to escape through, therefore, you run less boost through mechanical limitation. The intake they use isn’t volumetrically larger or crazy less restrictive than the oem version. The filter and piping amount to a safe level of air flow restriction. Cobb on the other hand, the filter is thinner and larger in certain sections that your MAF will notice. Also the Cobb downpipe is a bellmouth design, meaning it’s basically not restricted until you hit the cat. With this you can hit boost targets, but you have the ability to overshoot them as well. Couple this with a Cobb intake on an OTS map and you will run lean due large volumes of air over running what the fuel system can provide. The MAF calibration is 389 gallons a sec for the oem tune, stage 1, and 2 (excluding 1+sf) maps. And it’s damn near 500 for I think for the SF intake calibration on stage 1 lol. Most downpipes you can get are bellmouth. There are a few offerings of the flat-flange design available from MAPERFORMANCE, Grimm speed, and HKS I think.
I’m not shitting on anyone or what they want but Smeedia is right, you will lean your car out, and the examples you see are either stage 3, mechanically limited or doing it wrong/running lean. It can’t be done on an OTS map and it ends up being that you can’t have your cake and eat it too in terms of mechanical limitation.
Interesting, did not know they altered the downpipe to accommodate for it. I am curious if its even worth buying though. If your handicapping the downpipe with intentions of making more power later on it seems like it wouldn't be a worth while purchase for a short term use of an OTS Tune
@@Smeedia I wouldn’t recommend it as a temporary part either. The design still provides plenty of room for more power, I was just explaining how MAPerformance makes it work. It’s kind of like, if you’re good with stage 2, there’s a way I guess to have it. But yes, now you’re dealing with mechanical limitation. If you had a flat flange downpipe, use a LWG OTS map. You have to download them from the website though. You are right on all accounts bro, I’m just adding that, we see offerings like MAP that use an intake with a downpipe, but they are doing it a very specific way. The only choke point is up top with the flat flange downpipe versus the bell mouth. The intake provides a larger mesure of airflow but it’s restricted through the piping , filter density and the MAF calibration on the tune I’m sure. It’s a stage 2 specific solution, but I think they did that’s because stage 2 seems to be the common level to stop at. Like if all you want is stage 2 power, here’s how you can do it with an intake. The flat flange design will still hold up to stage 3 power I’m sure, but you have enough mechanical limitation to run an intake on stage 2 with stock injectors I guess. Like I said I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying it’s done with specific parts. It’s not something you can do with all parts out there on offer though is where I’m going with this. The Cobb OTS tunes are MAF based and they all use the oem MAF calibration. The Stage 1 plus sf is the only exception to the ots maps. That’s why dudes commonly run lean on stage 2 ots maps. The bellmouth design is enough flow for the injectors already, so the addition of the intake demands more fuel. However the flat-flange design doesn’t overwhelm the injectors like the capability of the bellmouth does at stage 2. So it allows for an intake at this stage. But this only works if you’re staying stage 2. You still can’t run a stage 3 map with out the inlet and fueling anyway. So it’s not a disadvantage it’s just works like that if you’re staying within the limits of stage 2.
Wow, literally one of the if not the best subaru channels. So glad you mentioned downpipe and intake on 15+ STI isn't a good idea without upgrading injectors, very solid point people miss. Only thing I wish is that you explained why.
I've touched on it a lot in prior videos, but the 15+ "makes more power" and caps the OEM fuel system a lot quicker than older models did. Thats why Cobb and a few others do not carry a stage 2+ OTS Map 🙏 the car will run lean, start to pull timing and not be a happy camper 😖
Woooohhh! No one ever mentioned that before. I went with MAPs stg 2 kit and there was nothing about upgrading fuel. See link. I new the turbo was a bit bigger but I didnt think it would max the fueling. Do you suggest pump upg too? When he said that in the video I crapped a brick! Definitely subscribing.
www.maperformance.com/products/map-stage-2-package-2015-subaru-wrx-sti-sti-4g-s2
I appreciate how you include the fa20 so I’ll watch the whole video 😭
Trying to help everyone out 🙏😁🔥
Dude.... you're like an encyclopedia of Subaru tuning knowledge.. Freaking awesome, keep up the great work!
Thanks Mike! Here to help where I can 🙏
Always the solid voice of reason. Well said, and great advice.
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This is what i need. Power and reliability in modifying my sti💚
Thanks Tanner!
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Good information as always. First thing I did was install the Cobb AOS on my 15 WRX, as you recommended for reliability from a previous video. Cant wait to see that EG33 go in.
Thanks my man! And can't go wrong with the AOS, one of the best first mods to get knocked out 🔥😁
as an fa owner i approve of your message! that sti drive train swap had me anxious for months. now i have bought a 4runner so thats my new project so the wrx is on hold. luckily i didnt buy a 4X4 so i wont be tempted to lift her as soon.
Jealous! I've wanted one of the newer 4 runners for so long! How are you liking it?!
@@Smeedia i really like it so far. It has the 4.7 v8 so its got plenty of torque. Its 15 years old and is equal or better in paint condition than my 18 wrx. If i wasnt looking at the 162k on the odometer i wouldn't know any better.
I'm not going to assume you remember my comment as it was way back in February when I got my 2020 wrx and found your channel.
But hell yeah I've been waiting for this type of video ever since I asked you back then about what you recommend on getting to modify the car priority wise. You even replied and said that would be a video worth making for sure in the future. You did not disappoint 👍
Knew I would get it out at some point, how are you liking the car since you got it? 😁🔥
@@Smeedia I'm absolutely enjoying it! Love that I can add power and still have a good gas mileage. I'm taking car of the car like I never had before with any other car. I'm keeping the interior fresh as well as the exterior. I plan to get the car to a stage 2 at least then put a roof tent to take it out on all sorts of adventures.🏔️🏞️🏕️
🤯 mine blowing!!! Great information my dad and I are saving for a wrx to get my younger brother he likes your videos and you dont leave anything unsaid. Awesome stuff as always✌
Always appreciate the support! Follow up with how he likes it when he gets it! 😁
Man I been watching all your videos for several days now. AmAzing channel, great content, very informative and I appreciate all of it. Thank you! You’ve helped me make several decisions and changes in my mind at the same time. 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼
Eyyy appreciate the feedback and glad the videos are helping 🥳🔥
Great content! Always enjoy and appreciate your videos. Been a subaru owner for almost 2 decades, bought my brand new 2012 WRX Hatch, and only done one thing to it since I bought it, stoptech brakes. With your advice, I have a better idea of what direction to go with and mod the WRX. Keep up with the videos bro!
Glad they're helping my friend and trying to include as much as I can 🔥😁
Your channel made me buy my bugeye hacth so far iv removed the ej205 and fitted a ej207 shortblock with rcm 11mm headstuds and rcm headgaskets ej205 heads with shimless bucket conversion with 12mm oil pump cobb sf intake process west tgv delete process west tmic grimmspeed aos vf34 1200cc injectors down pipe with 3inch xforce exhaust mishimoto turbo coolant tank and 40mm alloy rad so im waiting on running it in then fuel pump and pro tune as its on run in tune atm so hopefully it makes decent power
Sounds like you've got a solid set up! The EJ207 is pretty stout for a stock motor 🔥😁
@@Smeedia im hoping 350 to 400 atw but I gotta do 6 speed swap or be very gentle with the 5 but there's no fun in that
Wow this is a very good video. Good attention to detail for those in our subie community to make power 🔋and not screw your car up. Me I'm a stock guy. I have a 2017 base model WRX and my next car will be the new STI. A great channel. Stay safe brother. Subies forever guys and gals
Alqays appreciate the support my friend ❤
@@Smeedia Man I really appreciate you taking the time to educate us about the WRX and the STI. It will helpme going forward. Have a good weekend brother and stay safe. 🙏😀
all i have done to my bone stock legacy spec b is catback exhaust and cyl 4 cooling mod, i plan on doing intake and aos soon!
Omg this was the perfect video I needed
Glad it helped 🥳
I was in need of this so bad. Thanks TH-cam algorithm to showed me this badass boi☝❤.
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My goal for my FA baby it's a 300whp+. I'm currently running an Invidia N1 catback and stage 1 Cobb. The only thing that really stop me it's the money. 🥲
I know the feels, takes some time but you'll get there 🔥🙏
@@Smeedia I'm trying to save money to get a catted downpipe and a tune at the same time. I live in VA so the emissions requirements are a pain in the ass.
Great video own a 18 wrx worked for Subaru for 2 years one thing I would add that would be informative to know is how much power the stock blocks can handle because once you do a stage 3 your already risking how much power the stock block can handle
To an extent, we were able to pull over 400WHP from my stock block. But also will vary from engine to engine 🔥
something to add for FAs: the stock turbo with some porting work is plenty capable. the flow rate is only 1 lb/min from an FP blue, and it is half the price. I think this is more valuable than just running big turbo, as ultimately even at lower power levels it helps maintain boost at higher RPMs (in stock form by red line you are at less than half of peak boost) also, EGR can just be unplugged! makes sense if you want to remove clutter but effects are the same as a delete. otherwise, definitely a great starting place for those needing a crash course on how to mod their car!
Good to know! I've seen a few people port the OE Turbos but never saw any data or info about how they perform afterwards 🔥
So you're suggesting porting the stock turbo instead of getting a aftermarket one?
@@ABZ9654 yep, SoCal Porting is the big company that does it, it's a great choice for getting more out of your turbo without dropping 1400 dollars.
@@theman3343 sweet! I never considered that, thanks!
Another amazing informative video, I'm loving the way the channel is growing 🔥
Trying to cover all the info I can 😁🔥
This guy is amazing!
Good stuff man, keep it up broseph.
Eyyy, thank you 🙌 appreciate the support 🙏
Thank you it helps so much. Kinda lost on the 15+ models but think I heard catback and intake can run stage 1 +
My man thanks for the helpful videos been watching them for a year now, great content! By the way I live here in tri-cities, wa 🤟🏾
Eyyyy, not too far at all! 😁😁😁
Never clicked so fast on the notification
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Ibr just came out with there own intake manifold looks good IIR showed me them when I picked up my last parts.
I saw! Their manifold looks uhhhh.... interesting
@@Smeedia I mean besides the slight upgrade to the brz intake whats the other options besides a custom fab. Made one. But definitely looks interesting lots of parts.
2:35 you can run an intake, downpipe, and exhaust for 15+ stis. I ran that set up for a year before I did fueling upgrades. I was protuned so I don't know if that makes a difference but you can do that
All they do with the protune is dial boost down so your not fully utilizing the parts, OTS Tunes won't support it either. Car will run lean and throw CELs. You can run them but you won't see any gains
@@Smeedia i would peak at 19lbs sometimes 20lbs. Never ran lean or threw any cel codes. As far as power I was around 300whp and 320tq which around the typical "stage 2" numbers. Only hiccup the the car had was it over bossted once cause I was running a catless downpipe
EJ257 has entered the chat😂👍🏾 and how do tune a basemap from our tuner? So that we can be able to make it driveable to our dynotune day?
The tuner should be able to whip up a base map, normally it's an extra $50 or so for one 🙏
Well done kind sir 😎 realize subscribing to this has been very helpful and my subie loves watching too 👍
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Mannn this just made my list longer.. so much for keeping it stock 😂
What fun is keeping it stock 😅
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With the FA would I still need the cylinder 4 cooling mod, and any other fueling upgrades? Not planning to go much more crazy then stage 2+. I just got my 17 wrx like a month ago. Love the channel always awesome content.
No sir, the FA20 is more efficient 🙏
So I plan on putting a upgraded radiator, fuel oil separator, cylinder 4 cool, before getting a access port would that be a good start? I’ll also wait and put everything in at once accessport downpipe exhaust headers intake, I just wanna have a daily with a kick not focused on big numbers but I’d be happy with 300 tho, I have a 09 wrx , just put a new turbo(stock size) and replaced the engine(30kmiles) I keep watching and rewatching your videos they have been tremendously helpful so thank you and please keep it up 🙏🏼
Glad they help my friend and that would be a perfect place to start 🔥 the AOS AND cyl 4 cooling mod will help with longevity then jump into some power goodies
Ooooh... on the FA20 just UNPLUG the EGR!!!
If you ever, EVER have to return to stock for any reason (like me currently), being able to plug the EGR back in and unmarry the AP will save you a LOT of headache!!
Your not fully deleting EGR by just unplugging it though, subsru can also see if you've married an AP to the weather you unmarry it or not as well. The car records ECU flash data and they will know its been modified
@@Smeedia Copy that - I was thinking more about sourcing OEM parts, if you throw out the OEM EGR parts deleted :^) Definitely true, dealership can definitely see flash count on the ECU.
Highly informative thanks for clearing some things up
Thank you, and Anytime 🙏😁
I know i am 8 months late😂 what i am understanding is doing a ots tune is okay, but for better performance do you recommend getting with a tuner and getting a pro tune? Or should you get a pro tune when your done with all modifications?
200% get a protune when you do all your modifications 🙏🙏🙏
I have a base Map from Cobb NMS Tunning Stage 2+ for a intake and catted dp(4th day on this map) (DP really freed the turbo smell don't know how I feel about it lol) Have not passed 8 psi but um, if I want to run this combo, all I need is the fuel pump, injectors, and a ebcs right? or do I need something else like fpr or fuel rails or anything else for reliability. I'd asked my tuner but I trust you more your contents really helped me out so much. I ordered the new IAG AOS street series and a cylinder 4 cooling mod last week good to know I'm on track lol.
edit: Im planning on upgrading injectors next week cause this combo scares me as you said many times in your videos you don't recommend.
I would add st minimum the Cobb FPR, it helps smooth out fuel flow and gets rid of most of the fuel stumble around 3.8K in the RPM range. No need to go full rails and lines if you don't need to 🙏
Quick question. I have a 2015 WRX. I am on the Stage 2 Cobb map 91 oct. I have the cobb resonated jpipe and intake. I have the IAG street series AOS, but have not had enough time to install yet. Thank you for the suggestion on this by the way. You had mentioned decreasing rev hang with cat back exhaust. Do I have to change the mufflers from stock ones as this is not required to run the stage 2 map. FYI I am planning on getting protuned soon, but figuring out my build. Thanks again for the amazing channel!! Respect!!
The stage 1 OTS map will clean up the rev hand, a cutback alone unfortunately will not. You can use the stock cutback also of youd like with the J pipe set up without issue 🙏
Another Fire Video, Great job explaining everything. 👍
Thank you! Hopefully it helps out 🔥😁
Dorian is here, great video as always...#team smeedia
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I only trust this guy. Now a video about clutches please.
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Have this one but can definitely make one when I get my new one in
Hey Tanner bro, is it better to stick with as many parts as it's possible or makes sense from the same manufacturer so that the OTS tuning is easier and more straightforward instead of mix matching parts from companies that had all different ideas in mind on how to build a system. For example wouldn't it save you a lot of headache to buy most of what your talking about from say grimmspeed and one of their stage packages since OTF is my only option and there is no Dyno in Hawaii that will do all wheel drive? Obviously Grimmspeed I would hope designed all their parts to work together well in a complete system such as other manufacturers. I know you can't do EVERYTHING the same manufacturer I'm just talking about the basics here that your referring to in this video. Thanks for everything man!!!! 🤙
Since your in Hawaii an Etune would be a better option for you. But if you were to stay with OTS it would be most beneficial to stick with one manufacturer and their OTS tunes as the tunes were designed to work with their parts 🙏😁
@@Smeedia Thanks dewd!!
Great video bud, when do I need to upgrade the intercooler? Did I miss that?
Although, I’ve already lost $90k in lost wages this year so it’ll be a while before I can buy more parts..... stupid Covid:(
Sorry to hear 😖 once you get into the protune section is when you should do an intercooler. Either top mount or FMIC, whichever you prefer 🙏
Wouldn't you need to rebuilt the engine with a short block when you're going to put a new turbo on the FA20? Awesome content btw!
No sir, they have plenty of stock block turbo applications on the market. The fa20s weak point is the connection rods but they can handle a little bit of power before needing to be built
Recently started to mod my 09 wrx (Australia) running the ots 2+ with downpipe and intake runs well minimal knock and dam holds strong
Starting to collect my next bunch of mods just wanted your opinion on when to add a better top mount ?
Love your videos
Cheers man
Appreciate the support my man! Once you start doing fueling mods such as fuel pump and injectors would be a good time to swap it out. Thr GR intercooler are pretty small and pretty inefficient
@@Smeedia little update
Car makes 230AWKW unfortunately limited by the stock injectors 😂😂
Thanks for another great video.
One question, though. Aside from the accessport, are the recommendations the same for the 2015 JDM ej20 motors? In terms of fuel system upgrades etc?
Having trouble determining what parts are interchangeable between the ej25 and ej20. I don't want to end up buying a load of incompatible parts.
Yes same same, only difference is going to be tuning 🙏
Great video and thanks for all the content and info!!
Anytime! 🔥😁
Tanner what’s up my dude.I have a 17 sti same build as yours same turbo,etc cars been running fabulous since I got it back from dyno on the 14th today on the highway drive home just driving normally car threw a code PO4F0 Evap System High Pressure Purge Line (CPC2) Perf any ideas were to troubleshoot to look for still have my evap checked the forums but haven’t seen to much on the code anywhere
Loose gas cap, purge selanoid may have popped a line off, could be bad as well. I'd start with hosed and make sure everything is still solid first
Is running a Cobb SF Intake and a AWE Track exhaust reliable on the OTS tune? Or will it be a better idea to get an E-Tune. I am debating whether to get an E-tune or pro tune. The pro tune is twice as expensive but would love to know your opinion. I believe this is stage 1+. Just want to have a reliable subaru with that rumble :). Love your videos. They are very informative but would love to know your opinion on my situation.
With thr mods you have you'll be okay using an OTS Tune with that intake, the catback shouldent effect anything 😁🙏
Hey Tanner,
If a mod list looks like this, what would you recommend on it?
Catback
Intake
Downpipe
Boost control solenoid
Fuel pressure regulator
Fuel pump
Fuel injectors
IAG street aos
Pro tune.
Thanks!
Whats the car? 👀
@@Smeedia my 2016 STI! Planning to go this route but I want to know if this is okay. I don’t want to break the bank but I also want to be safe!
I would add a radiator and cyl 4 cooling mod to that list 🔥
My engine just went, how do you know what type engine you got an Ej or Fa. I have a regular 2016 wrx not sti unfortunately 😅
Me: doesn’t even have a Subaru but an audi
Also me: Hmmm interesting how do I modify a wrx sti
Still solid info to have 😅 i mean ya never know 😉😁
Any assumptions for power gain break down of stages. Obviously the intake stage isn't worth mentioning but what about the downpipe stage ect. I've read the numbers but more curious about your experience / the numbers you beleive it does!
Protunes i can't really guess on but for stage 2 in the STI you'd be looking a t around 265WHP/270WTQ ISH as for the FA20 WRX I wouldn't even have a guess for it 😅
@@Smeedia Right on haha. So around 25 30 whp ish!
Why would you not recommend a blow off valve?
love your vids
Eyyyy, thank you! 🙏😁
How reliable is a stage 3 sti like urs was with all supporting mods same thing u had and a good tune !
Solid! Your clutch will go before anything else does 😅🔥
@@Smeedia thanks
Have a jdm ej205 longblock, what do you recommend for internals to run 350 whp reliably
Do you run this channel for the money or is it more because you enjoy it?? Underrated asf btw :)
Enjoy it 🔥🙏 TBH doesn't pay that well 😅🤣 trying to help people out the best i can so others don't make my mistakes
Just got a '13 WRX. Already had a AP, but just ordered cylinder 4 mod, AOS, and intake. Excited to get full exhaust down the road and either lowering springs or coilovers.
Congrats on the car! 🙌🔥
How do you not have more subscribers? I'm genuinely confused...
Very small niche on TH-cam 😅🙏
Don't need the deletes only at big power and fa bent Conrods don't handle much power
Brother, I didn't understand what you were saying about ext wastegates. To be more specific, I thought the way of choosing wastegates depends on how much horsepower would you like to possess, I mean, for instance, 700hp require better emission, therefore, you have to acquire wastegate with a larger outlet. Am I right or I understand it incompletely?
You are correct, buy for 90% of the builds out there a single 38mm or a single 44mm will get the job done.
But your right, for example on the EG33 build ill be using two 38mm EWGs
@@Smeedia I appreciate your responsiveness so much!)
I keep an eye on your news!
Had to stop by ☝️ cre8tive garage in the building 🏎 keep up the vids 💯
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I have a 2020 wrx running the Cobb air intake big sf with the ots stage 1+ 91 with a custom cat back 3 inch with a boomba bpv I should be fine like, if I’m not planning on pushing power right? I’m thinking of added my street series AOS separator in, just to be safe ? I’m trying to do it without a pro tune what you think ?
Street series AIS is a great addition and you should be solid 🥳
@@Smeedia Forsure I’ll be installing the OAS soon and thank you I’ve been following you for a bit now and I’ve tried to watch most videos of yours and they really helped a lot thank you 🥹👌🏽🤞🏽
My 2018 WRX FA20 is FBO with 15K miles and awaiting protune. Everything; headers, full tgvs, FF, etc. I bought one step colder plugs (Denso). Should I install them or get new stock NGK's? I emailed my tuner last week, but he hasn't responded.
I believe NGK makes 2309s for the WRX personally I would go with a one step colder plug
So if I do everything you said except a turbo upgrade for my 19 wrx will I need a stronger clutch? Can my transmission handle that much power?
Stock clutch I've seen handle up to about 340 WTQ really going to come down to hwo aggressive the tune is
What's the suggestion for a invidia catted down pipe and n1 exhaust stock turbo and a Cobb cold air with a aluminum filter housing on an 08 WRX and no get rid of it and buy a 12+ isn't a good answer
On an OTS Tune you'd be around 260ish WHP with a pro tune and a boost controller closer to 280ish
@@Smeedia huzzah I need an access port they kept it it's a beater runs pretty strong so my next question is is the tune still in the car or did it go with the AP?
When you uninstall the AP it reverts the ECU back to the OEM Tune unfortunately 😖
I dont even own a subie but goddam I love your vids
Soon my friend! And always appreciate the support 🔥😁
Facts bro im still looking into getting a car thats reliable and I could mod
Do you have a video on how to reliably make 350whp or so on pump gas?
th-cam.com/video/YO4GRUNWfOk/w-d-xo.html 🙏🙏
Why the low pressure fuel pump? Which one should I buy?
The low pressure pump in the tank helps to feed to high pressure pump, swapping over to a higher flowing pump means more fuel. And AEM of DW are good options 🙏😁
That's the perfect video
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I’m noob here, I’m just getting into STI Stuff, which one or how can I tell if my car has EJ or FA engine? 2016 sti limited is what I’m talking about
STI will have an EJ and thr 2015+ WRX will have the FA20.
I’ve heard multiple stories of people running about 1-2 gallons of e85 to their fuel to top it off without a tune or flex kit. Anyone know if this is TRUE and can confirm before I put some in my Rex today, I’ve read too many back and fourth opinions on this
I’m on flex fuel right now with the stock fuel lines and and rails with ID1050s. Does a ebcs help with a stock turbo? What exactly does a aftermarket boost controller help with?
It helps with boost controller and wastewater actuation, it definitely helps to benefit on a stock turbo 🙏
I defer to you on engines in a Subaru. You are a boxer engine guru, so I would be a dumb ass fool not to. But I have one question for you that revolves around reliability, a subject near and dear to you and me. For engines that will be revving high consistently, secondary torsional vibrations can be a killer most certainly. I was told and am sold on a high quality crank shaft damper to drastically reduce or eliminate that vibration and consequently eliminate that destructive situation. What about you, are you of the same mind on a damper too? (To come up with that technical rhyme, was challenging and took me a little bit of time!)
Lol I like it! I will be using a super dampened on my car, I've seen people swap to light weight pulleys without any type of dampener but having it on there should help to clean up a lot of it
How much fuel lines are needed to be replaced to run e85 safely without corroding any fuel lines?
Fuel lines in the bay, FPR, injectors and fuel rails
Is it really safe to put a larger turbo on a FA20? Wouldn't the torque spike bend the rods? Over 350 torque is bad i hear. Im curious on this mod
I've seen people do it without issues, there's 1 stock block WRX up here that was making 500WHP for a little over a year
Any suggestions on a low pressure pump?
AEM340 🙏
I have a 2019 STi...
what exactly is a fuel stumble?
Essentially a rough patch in the RPM range where the stock fuel system struggles
Hi, I would like to ask you if I can put an equal length header without having to tune the car.
You will need a tune 🙏
I say, get that get a dom tune cooling mod, radiator, oil catch can and rest leave all stock so you can outlive your subaru
What fun would that be 😉🔥
Hey so I recently got a egr/tgv delete on my 15’ wrx, I currently have a remark axle back and a Crawford aos v3. I have the stage 1 Cobb ots tune and I was just wondering if the only way to get rid of the CEL from the deletes is getting an etune/protune?
Unfortunately yes 😭😭😭
For a 15+ wrx, can you run an intake and J-pipe at the same time. Might of got confused in the beginning where you say you can’t or is that just for an STI?
Yes you can, thats STI only that you can't 🙏
@@Smeedia thank you!
Why should you change the turbo inlet piping or some of the other cooler pipes you see. Is it just for look?
Smoother airflow for the turbo, and the stock inlet has been prone to melting or breaking from heat over time 🙏
To run a IAG street series v3 AOS do I need a tune
No tune needed 🙏
Hey Smeedia,
Watched your videos on mods that will and will not void your warranty... you never mentioned cylinder 4 cooling system!
Will that void my warranty?
Unfortunately yes it will 😪
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Last question... how much horsepower can I reliably make?
When I say reliably I mean reliable as a stock engine!
If that's even a reality!
Whats the car?
@@Smeedia 2020 sti
People have been pushing those blocks to around 500WHP 🙏
I have a 2008 Subaru wrx sti
Love it, can't wait till my warranty is up or i decide to just say F@#$ it..... awesome video thanks for the knowledge my man
Anytime my dude 🙏
Which aos should I get for my 18 wrx ? Since there different versions of it ?
Either the IAG, Cobb or radium 🙏
what do u feel on the heads on the 2020 block, any work u think would need to do to push 400+
You can touch 400, for me I ran out of CAM on the dyno around that interval. I believe they're still the W25 heads
@@Smeedia they have the N25 heads .
Between the FP blue and Cobb 20G, which one is better? I know that you have fp blue loved but I haven't anything about the cobb 20g
I've never used the Cobb 20G before so I can't speak on it too much. But the Cobb turbo maxed out around 400QHP while the FB blue is capable of around 450WHP. Spool is relatively comparable between both turbos as well as cost 🙏
@@Smeedia gotcha thanks bro, now I can make my decision when that time comes! 👍🤜🤛
I got a 2015 wrx its got a aem intake headers and a straight pipe exhaust I was told it already has a protune am I able to use a accessport
If it already has a protune and you connect an access port it will wipe the ECU and you will lose the tune that is already on the car. If you can get the map you can upload it onto the acessport and put it back on the car
So you can’t do a turbo back exhaust on a 2020 WRX STI?
You can but you can't do an intake at the same time on the stock fuel system.
Stage 2 OTS tunes for an EJ (02 wrx) is no longer available correct? And only option is to get e-tune or protune?
Correct 🙏
@@Smeedia fuckin A lol