Packed With Features....You'll Never Use! The Seiko Flightmaster
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Either the most feature and value packed in the world, or a complete nonsense of a watch, depending on your perspective. You tell me!! I still think it makes some sense as a daily, but you have to accept a few quirks into the bargain. Cheers, Jody
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I don't want to fly with a pilot who's watch has 200m water resistance.
Lol, getting it!
Lmao, true did not think of that.
😂
Just remember, there are more airplanes in the sea than submarines in the sky.
Darrell Butler this is a really funny line. Haha~
I've got a wild confession of my own. I'm not scuba certified, don't own a wet suit, much less a snorkel...and yet I still enjoy dive watches. Don't tell anyone!
The way I see it, dive watches are handy for using the bezel to time whatever project/task you're "diving into".
I can't swim but I still wear a Seiko SKX 007 diver. 😐
@@mr22guy I used mine last night to cook my pizza!
I wish dive watching was seen as a hobby
Your secret is safe with us man😉
How many people own a dive watch but don’t go diving ?
Many I am one of them, I have three dive watches
Or own a field watch without being in the military?
Robert Nelson divers are extremely useful as you can get them wet no problem (the dishes, swimming). No one said that you have to be a pro diver to own one. Also the bezel can be used to time...well many things, i use it in the kitchen for example.
🙋🏻♂️
@@julijzupan6292 Yep yep and yep
I don’t own a plane nor could I fly one, but I‘m a truck driver...
All the flight watch features are very useful as a driver watch too...
They are legible and complication as Chrono / GMT/ Date / Alarm are very useful too...
The slide ruler is a fantastic feature which I‘ve tried on a NavyTimer...
So all in all I would call the Flightmaster a Drivemaster....😇
Yeah,I'm driver also,and I wear a pilot watch,with a gmt bezel,AND an elapsed time bezel
The flighty has been our companions for years… And hopefully years to come as well! I better get one before anything happens
I bet hardly any of those Rolex owners even own a submarine
I bet Mr X has a plane
Or two
My thought also, I don't own one of these I have just bought a Citizen Nighthawk instead.
I’m sure that ‘HELLO’ is getting louder !
Eventually half of each video will just be him screaming HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO at the top of his lungs
Pardon?
@@Colddirector Finally
I think Jody should do a 'compilation video' of all his 'Helllllooooos'...
😂🤷
I used to be a private pilot (my licence has lapsed). This sort of watch is perfect for that. I had and still have a Citizen Skyhawk which I used to wear when flying. I certainly didn't use all the capabilities but some were useful.
No plane, well I am off to Producer Micheal’s channel he does own a plane, can’t believe you don’t have a plane bloody hell
All jokes aside, that guy is a colossal bellend.
@@MrShoryuken1 😂🤣
@@MrShoryuken1 I'm torn on him. He appreciates simple pleasures and is apparently quite willing to give people expensive crap as gifts, but the degree of frivolous spending on insanely expansive stuff is jarring.
Well Grant Cardone channel he has new Gulf Stream G550 perhaps Jody can do his next review of a flight watch on board when GC is back in Sydney, he has just been.
Still no plane? I guess you can pick it up on jomashop with 95% discount...
I would argue that being able to convert between metric and imperial or various currencies without having to take out your phone is a classy and elegant feature that a lot of people would use with some practice
Those “Haalloooo and welcome” give me life
Exactly!
Not with a hang over!😖 Certainly woke me up though! 🥴😂
They are part of what persuaded me to unsubscribe, so irritating, couldn't stand it any more.
I'm a weirdo with a slide rule collection, so this (and its solar powered cousin the SSC009) have both been on my wrist. For work I frequently need to convert between feet & meters or miles & km, so the unit conversions on the bezel are surprisingly useful.
Slide rules are making a comeback thanks to the interwebs! You must know that there are a few watches that have actual working circular slide rules on them! Really kind of rare but they do exist! There was one on kickstarter recently as well by "Caliper". Edit corrected name.
Caliper from Toronto did a Kickstarter for a nice slide rule watch too. I missed that campaign, but did pick one up on Amazon before they were sold out.
One thing I can say about this watch: it is cooler than the new Navitimers.
I've had mine just over a week, and I'm not disappointed with it. Bought it as a bit of fun. You can leave it in the watch box, and the next time you go to wear it, you don't have to worry about winding up, as it's good to go being quartz.
I don’t own a plane but I am a pilot and I do use the features. The slide rule has been invaluable on any watch I’ve owned with that feature.
I think the nighthawk is the better watch if your looking for an aviator watch(even if you're not a pilot).. Cleaner more readable dial, solar/quartz(no battery required) dual time zones, 200mm water resistance, and excellent build quality.
I have one and I absolutely love it. It’s really comfortable, looks a million quid and goes with just about everything. I’ve definitely bought in to the cult of the flightmaster!
There are in fact actual pilots that own and wear the flightmaster.
But do they use the slide rule? It seems that you would be far better served by a real E6B slide rule... It is much larger and easier to read.
@@harrkev Pilot here. I wear a slide rule watch, and I use it all the time. Yes, a full-size E6B is better, but in a tight cockpit, I find a slide rule watch much more convenient. My full size E6B sits in my flight bag behind the seats.
Most the pilots I know rocked gshocks
When I crewed Blackhawks in the US Army, the pilots I flew with always had analog watches with second hands to time stuff...
Not sure what exactly, but I know it had to do with engine start-up... for one thing.
Something that sticks out to me, though, is that they never wore digitals that I can remember--
Don't remember any 'Flightmasters,' but that was a long time ago, and I wasn't a true 'watch guy' back then... My "80s Army green plastic Timex field watch" was good enough... lol!
@@Bradleewright How many pilots do you know personally?
I own a plane and fly it with a $220 Seiko on my wrist 😂
You're not the only one! Of course I usually fly it with my Speedy.
So do I :)
Im a student pilot and Most People don’t know how affordable planes can be and how budget minded pilots can be 😂
Bill Gates wears a Casio, so...
Bill Gates wears a Casio. Warren Buffet wears a Citizen while eating at McDonalds. What's your point?
It’s a fun watch. I have the “gold” version on a 21mm black leather strap. And the point you brought up about it being the “pick up anytime” quartz in a box full of autos is spot on!
As usual; great presentation and review.
I've owned this watch about a year. As with most that buy this watch, I only use the chrono and alarm features. I love that Seiko made the crown and function pushers screw-down.
How many people actually utilize their time pieces in regards to what they're designed for...
F1 or other racing, Diver, Aviation, etc.?
I have 30+ Divers rated from 200 - 1000m but have never been more than 40 ft beneath the surface.
I love collecting the different types of specialty watches. The best part is that I have family, friends or work associates that have experience utilizing their true functions. It's fun to watch them "play" with watches especially when they explain to me what they're doing.
My favorite experience was letting a coworker "use" my Flightmaster. Surprisingly, he enjoyed it. He had been a navigator on a B-52 and most of the squadron had Breitling's.
Already had this on my list. Your review confirmed what I loved about it. Thanks!
I still think the Citizen Nighthawk is the cooler looking inexpensive slide rule pilots watch, but it isn't a chronograph. I use the slide rule occasionally for unit conversion, so it is pretty handy. It is also a 200m watch, and it has a GMT hand and the hour hand can be set in one hour increments without changing the minutes or seconds, which is cool when you are travelling.
I gave my father one of these, it reminds him of his old slide rule and he loves it. Winning.
I'm the proud, non-pilot, original owner of a Seiko 7T34-6A09 Flight Computer (bought in 92), the predecessor for the SNA411 Flight Master. With only battery changes, this quartz gem still works like a charm. Thanks to pages like this, TGV, and Marc at LIW, I just pulled the trigger last week and received the sna411 two days ago from Jomashop. I'm liking it a whole bunch, and hoping it will show the same robustness it's ancestor continues to display.
Keep up with the great videos.
I like the Citizen Nighthawk and this Seiko Flightmaster for the GMT function and 200m water resistance. Great for a travel watch. I can't even read the pilot bezel on either of them due to the small print, even if I did know how to use them.
"I travel quite a bit..."
Jody, a man of the world.
Jody's an MI-6 asset, stationed in Australia, with the cover of being a watch guy and a "regular dad."
He's exceptionally good at it-- you can't tell but, deep down, he just wants to pull his hair out every time he has to say, "Helllooooo!" again...
He's got almost everyone fooled... but I have him figured out... 🕵
Pilot here.I bought this watch for my use.It helps me tremendously.
Thank you Jodie .
Now I understand why TGV likes his "Flighty" so much. I feel tempted to buy one … then in 2020 buy the new Microsoft Flight Simulator, so I can make use of the functions … ;-)
Underrated comment. Thanks for the laugh.
I don’t own any pilot watches, nor do I find them that interesting. That being said...This one is “glorious”! I absolutely hope to pick one up soon, as well as the Breitling Navitimer.
I used my slide ruler today to convert lbs to kg for a survey I was taking. Also used it on my last trip to estimate range on a driving trip. It is nice in a pinch if you have enough lighting to read the very small numbers.
I’ve had it for three years now and it stays on a sail cloth strap. There are many strap choices available at 21 mm now and a 22 mm marine nationale strap fits perfectly. It’s a fun watch to wear, It looks great and the original batteries going strong 3+ years in.
I have the 911 version (Solar). Love it! Lugs are different so easily accepts different straps and the stainless band is much nicer being fully brushed. No 200m water resist but not a deal breaker for me.
I looked at this watch about a year ago, but ended buying the SND253P1-4. Currently only $130, with a less busy dial and a better chronograph function (12 hour totalizer and 1/20 second resolution), but only 100m WR. I did end up gifting that watch to a friend, in a generous moment after I bought a Citizen Blue Angels World Chronograph AT8020-54L (a major step up in features, quality and price).
I picked up one of these awhile back when I saw TGVs review. I hadn't really ever considered a slide-rule pilot watch before that. What got me was the depth of the thing. You can look at it for the time and see one thing, look further and you see the chronograph, look further and you have the alarm, ticking seconds and dual-time, look further and you have conversions to your heart's content. It's like staring into the depths of a successively complex bowl of complication. Yet, it's also legible, not very monstrous and can take a beating. So I roll it out every now and again and enjoy it. Lately, I've had more wrist time with the Arnie reissue, but I come back to the flightmaster and it feels like I never put it down.
Great Video Jody. I bought this watch 12 years ago in the Blue and White colours....really love it especially for the Alarm/Dual time features. I just love the look of mine especially in the blue and white. Its a keeper for me!
Thanks for the honest review.
I have been waiting for this video from you in a long time, thanks mate! This is bonza!
Jody, please do a head to head for this vs. the Nighthawk! 😊
Hey! I HAVE used almost all the E6B features, while actually flying or flight planning. And I owned the predecessor to the 411 for about 14 years until bumping to the 411. Now my 411 is my beater and my 16710 GMT II Coke, is my good watch.
I used to fly planes, all the way to twin-engine turboprops, and I do own a Flightmaster as well. I bought it as a replacement for my Breitling Navitimer Cosmonaute Ref. 809 that I foolishly sold about 8 years ago for, if memory serves me, around $1,650.
The Flightmaster costs less than a simple service of the Navitimer, and it has a wonderful wrist presence. In my opinion, it looks way about its price point, although I had to pay $315 for an open box item but price are already around the $400 mark. A great all around watch to own indefinitely!
And...only a few of us are divers. And those that are divers...most likely rarely use a dive bezel for timing much of those dives. But....we love all the watches!
Love my flighty, of all the features I use the unit conversions the most. The bracelet is good and bad at the same time. Solid endlinks are always nice. The polished center links, help the watch dress up a bit but the center line in them kills it. I ended up getting a 21.5mm super engineer bracelet (meant for the seiko tuna) with straight links, and shaved down the ends (with a dremel) to fit. Love it to bits, always gets a worried reaction from my friends when I jump into the water with it haha.
My dad owns a plane, it’s his hobby. Got one SNA411 for me and for him. He couldn’t be happier with it, he always wears it while flying. :)
I enjoy my Flightmaster. While mostly unnecessary it's fun to calculate tips with.
I have a friend who flies his own Corsair. His only watch is a Seiko mini-Tuna.
Yeiiiii! Slide rule watch! I use slide rule every day... Although I'm not a pilot! Thanks Jodi!!!
Love your reviews and the t-shirts. They are both great. Thanks for the good work. A fan from Brazil here.
Have one, love it! Thanks again Jody!
I’ve owned this watch for a few years now, and love it. It is one of two grab and go analog quartz watches in my collection.
I love this watch, and I plan on owning one someday. Great video, and I love your tongue in cheek presentation!
nicer than the breitling equivalente and more precise . great watch
I had this for a short while. It's a great watch for the price. Love the yellow accent on it. Often discounted and up on Mass Drop a lot.. I think for around $200, not a bad watch at all.
Couple notes that might be worth considering should you keep this watch for a while and information of interest below:
- I appreciate it comes with a bracelet option, although this is probably best paired with NATO/Zulu or 2-piece strap. That being said, I never liked the high-polished double center links. It looks cheap, especially since you can see the seam between the 2 pieces.. why they did this and not just make 1 solid center link, IDK? I remedied and improved it by brushing it out to match the brushed finish of the rest of the bracelet which looks a lot better. It even helps reduce that thin seam in the middle, also.
- As you know, it's obviously a strap monster, but, the spring bars are really close to the case. I recommend getting a set of curved spring bars, 21mm.. Yes, it's an odd lug/strap space. BUT, you should have no problem fitting 20mm straps to this as the 0.5mm gap on either side is negligible. Attacking from the opposite end, you can squeeze in perhaps the next most common strap size of 22mm. With the aforementioned use of curved spring bars, it will facilitate such attempts.
- There are many cool complications and features on the watch.. mainly to look at and rarely, if ever, to be used in practice. The alarm subdial on the bottom. It is a bit finicky to actually set the alarm if you've read or familiar with how to do it. As such, I might set and possibly use it as a 2nd-time zone instead, a pseudo-gmt.
If you like this, maybe you might like the rarer panda white dial blue subs variant SNA413? You say that you are not into vintage, but you may at least want to familiarize yourself with the older automatic Flightmaster SBDS001 which I believe you will find pretty cool and be more useful to you overall in terms of the details and features.
My Dad gave me his flightmaster he wore for 30 years.
He owned a plane and loved this Seiko.
The watch is incredible.
By the way. The 30 year old version i own does not even come near 15 sec per month.
More like 5 seconds.
What back and watch this video again in anticipation of receiving flight master number 2. I’ve regretted selling my first one and can’t wait to get it back in my collection… Having owned it I can share that it is a great wearing watch and the NDC style/Parachute stretch cord straps work wonderfully and makes it even better wearing watch...It is a great alternative 28 die watch…
Jodi, one of your funniest videos thus far! As our family is going through a number of significant challenges, one of which is my wife battling cancer, it was good medicine to laugh out loud at my T.V. more than a few times. Thanks so much!
I have my Flightmaster on the NDC MN strap with curved spring bars. I couldn’t get it off that bracelet fast enough. Even by Seiko standards it is subpar.
I've always been a bit shocked when this watch beats the Citizen Nighthawk in head to head reviews. If you can find a good strap to match both main colour & the red features on the dial, the Nighthawk looks incredible. It always seemed to get panned on the fact it wasn't a Seiko, but as we well know, that isn't always a bad thing.
Jody - Seiko uses that chrono movement everywhere! It is remarkable. Note - you can use that Alarm for a second time zone. Instead of setting it to current time, then the alarm, just set the time on the alarm to the desired timezone.
I love mine, a great stunning piece for descent price, you get lots functionality with this one,a can be anything from diving pilot ect. Thank you for sharing this amazing and reviewing this piece..👍👍
I use a 22mm leather strap and it works great. The leather compresses half a mm on each side and it looks great.
beautiful watch
I bought one of these some 18 months ago Jodi, simply because it was so busy!🤪 I wore it only a few days ago & every time I glance the time which is quite legible I just love it! Maybe it raises my IQ?🤔💭 Yeah ok that’s subjective! I put mine on a nylon NATO & yes it was fiddly to do but the result was worth it. I also have several flieger watches, some WW2, some modern. The nostalgia gets me, my dad was a WW2 veteran. But the modern interpretation I think harks back to those simpler older watches, obviously with a today application. Good review as always mate👍🏼😎
I've got an older Pulsar watch with that movement and I love it. It's what started off my collection. When I was driving school bus, that alarm was a great reminder to get back to work between routes. And the chrono was perfect for timing brake checks. Interesting note, the alarm chime sounds different depending on if the chrono is running or not. @6:28 The chime goes once per second, but the chrono somehow makes it sound choppy. Kinda weird.
Jody great video, very thorough as always. This watch was on my bucket list. Youve actually talked me out of it. Gonna turn my attention to the new Seiko 5 SRPD series which are just as stunning to look at but "featureless"!! Until i get my first plane that is!
I love my Flightmaster!! I got mine on a 22mm sailcloth strap with white stitching that i shaved the sides to fit.. Look's great!!
I got myself an SNAB67 Flighty. It's at 43.5mm diameter, but it has a more manageable 24mm lug width!Thanks for the vid!
That is one of my favorite watches I own. The look is awesome
I have pretty much the same watch - mine is blue and white. That being said, mine is a 2005 model, but nothing has really changed. Comfortable as all hell with the bracelet and am still wearing it regularly. 2 battery changes since purchase. Bloody brilliant watch!
Jody, I have mine on a 21mm black silicone strap from Barton Watch Straps. Massively recommend!
Seiko's are one of my fav brands of watches
20 thousand views in a few days!? Yes lad, going places in 2019, 2020 is going to be huge for Jody and JOMW. Love your content, you've got the format dialled in now and it's really starting to tell.
Big love from Blighty.
I have solar version without the screw downs. I love it, I always wanted a slide rule watch as a kid. One useful trick is to set it to convert currency if you are abroad!
I agree with you Jody. A lot of watch for the money. I wear mine with a black tropic rubber strap, a 20 mm yellow rubber strap, a 20 mm stainless steel engineer watch bracelet or a marine nationale khaki green and yellow strap.
I know this review is old, but I have to say, I love my Flighty. It looks like it's on a mission, it's reliable, and some day I'll go through the manual and figure out how to do a few of the functions for a party trick.
Had mine for year's it's a cool looking watch. 😎
It also has a tachymeter and a compass bezel, something you don't see often in combination with a chronograph, alarm AND slide rule. It definitely is feature-packed.
Also the slide rule can be used for any calculations, for example you could use it to figure out how much to tip at a restaurant, engineers and mathematicians could use it for quick on-the-go math as well. Just like the chronograph can be used to time laps or the tachymeter can be used to calculate how many envelopes you can seal in an hour, all these features are useful in aviation in the event of electronics failure but certainly aren't limited to it.
Great review. Love the watch. Will be buying it from Jomashop as well. Thanks! 😊
Love this Seiko Jody, TGV has been talking about this watch for years calling it "Flighty". Great review as always.
If I had one of these I wouldn't have lost my drone in a field last year....🤦....⌚🏴⌚🏴
Darling flighty!
Another great video.....thanks!
Another one that I've been considering in direct competition with this 1 is the citizens blue angel with the blue leather strap AT8020 I'm really digging on that 1. I am not a navy pilot nor have I been in the navy or military I like to watch.
The trick to adding alternate straps (Zulus, NATOs, etc.) are a pair of Curved Spring bars (works "a treat" as Jody might say ;- )
Great watch, owned mine for years, cost £200...odd 21mm width so I wear it on my NDC stretchy.
i use a pilot watch to do basic calculations, working out average speed, distance and few other stuff. its cool once you know how to use it
No doubt Seiko will be discontinuing it soon and replacing it with something inferior that costs more. I'm so jaded...
I love my flighty!! Great review as always!
It's a beautiful watch! Thinking about getting one.
Hi. I’m thinking of selling one. It’s currently on a beautiful vollmer mesh bracelet à la Long Island Watch. Original bracelet barely worn. Box and papers. You can have the lot.
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Another great vid/ review. I’ll be receiving my SNA411, today. And, i plan to throw on a 21mm parachute nato. I’m excited!!
The slide rule is not just about pilot things, you can actually use it for calculating or converting a lot of every day stuff. Really love that watch, but i have a quite similar solar seiko with chrono, alarm and 100m wr that I love so I've always wondered if they wouldn t be a bit redundant...
OMG!!! The Flightmaster review is here!
6 1/4 inch wrist here. Watch suits my wrist absolutely great in my opinion. I recently ordered a 21mm green with yellow stripe paratrooper band, suits the look insanely well. I love the stock bracelet except the clasp has only 2 micro adjustments. That is actually my only complaint with the watch is only 2 micro adjustments. It's my favorite time piece and will probably get about half my wrist time once the new strap comes in (the lack of extra micro adjustments makes the strap not quite fit my wrist to my liking)
Nice one Jody dial a bit too busy for me , just bought a nice Fleager style pilots watch The Citizen Avion Eco Drive B type realy enjoying it.
I know how to use a slide ruler and I'm not a geek. Mine arrived yesterday from JomaShop. Now that it's in my hand I understand why it's TGV's favorite Seiko.
I got the Seiko SSC609 flighty its solar so you can play with the chrono for ever! Keep up the great channel. I got the San Martin 62 MAS took and i bloody love it😁
I can see some of the appeal, the water resistance, sweeping second hand, and alarm are quite nice. Maybe a bit too busy for me but I guess if I had enough watches it could find a place in the collection.
I just ordered one today cant wait! I bought the Blue Angle Nighthawk last week its only right I get it it's Seiko friend..
Great review! A real review, unlike 'you know who' who just talks about how much he loves the 'flighty' without giving any really informative, practical or useful insights into it.
Love this watch. Got the sna413.