I Bought a Seiko Flightmaster SNA411 But Is It Any Good?
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- Mad Watch Collector Buys a Seiko Flightmaster Chronograph SNA411 But Is It Any Good?
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if your a pilot and you are 200m underwater, something in your slide rule calculation has gone rather wrong
Hahahahaha absolutely!;)
LOL BLOODY RUDDY AWESOME. I have to confess, I kinda like the gold one 😂😂
Enjoy it my friend! I hope all is cushty over there.
Cheers,
T.
MWC! The man himself loves your video. You've made it!
T you finally beat me down to get one! It’s a superb addition to my bulging collection! Low on pilots watches though so….;) a part of me wants the goldie one, bracelet off and on a brown leather strap! Thanks for watching my friend! All good back in Blighty!!!
My first thought was, "Well I hope he likes the watch or THAT friendship with TGV is not going to last long"
the blue one is quite nice
@@philthyphil6662 inner Del definitely came out of me!
This was the first Christmas gift I ever gave my fiancé’s son. He was 13 at the time and he still wears it daily, 10 years later.
A fantastic story Michael! Tell me how many battery changes since then?!
You crack me up...great presentation. Late to party, but I bought this a couple of years ago because of TGV! Never loved it, but I didn't hate it either. Little wrist time and paid about $230 for it from Jomashop. Prices have since skyrocketed so might flip it? Thanks for reminding me how to set the alarm! Cheers... and stay MAD!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you so much my friend!
I bought one about six months ago. First thing I did was chunk the bracelet and replaced with brown leather strap! Love it, wear all the time and get many compliments for it! Thanks to you and Urban G for reviewing. It made my decision to own one easier.
Irish!! That is superb! Glad you love it my friend!
I have had an SNA411 for years and I like it a lot. On its fourth battery. It, and a Citizen Nighthawk, were my both “gifts” I bought myself after getting my pilots license in 2007 so they sort of have sentimental value. Both are amazingly cool tool/pilot watches that won’t break the bank.
4th battery that is awesome my friend! May have to do a comparison show with a nighthawk!!
LOVE the Flighty! One of the biggest "bangs for the buck" in the Seiko line up. TGV turned me on to this watch 3 years ago when I first got into the hobby. GREAT watch. Fun watch. Get's a lot of comments when you wear it. Thank you Russell as always for a GREAT video! Appreciate ALL you do for the watch community.
Jeff!!! Thank you so much for watching my friend! What strap do you have on him!?;)
How much did it cost back then?
Bought one a few weeks ago. Love it. Mainly due to TGV, partly due to my thinking it might be future icon. Didn't mind the bracelet, but because of the polished sections took it off to keep it like new. Because you never know. Put it on an elastic strap (khaki green with a yellow stripe - of course) and then took that off and put it on a yellow nato. Curved spring bars helped there. Even learned some basic functions on the slide rule. Very interesting, well designed attractive little watch. It lives next to my Citizen Night Hawk now, and they spend all day swapping calculus.
Thank you for watching my friend!! Yes I’m with you on the polished centre links!!!!;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR 👍
LOLLLL, I have never heard cricket described as the great game between MAN AND STUMPS haaha!
They are obsessed with those wooden sticks Gringa!!! Played a lot of sport in my time….. cricket is too slow !;)
Great video. I’ve owned 2 of these. The first I modded with a Crystal times Saphire domed Crystal (purple Ar coated). It looked awesome, but lost the water resistance. It really bugged me, so I flipped it and bought another and left it with the stock Hardlex. I have the TGV style ndc strap, but I actually like the look and comfort of the stock bracelet, but totally get the criticism it garners.
That’s fantastic my friend!
Love your video. Your style definitely uncovers aspects of this watch that I hadn’t noticed before. Understand the reaction to bracelet, but after trying nato and leather options (yes, I have a 21mm leather strap) I am back on the original bracelet because it is the most comfortable (for me).
Greg! Thank you for your comments and for watching the show! Yes I just couldn’t get on with it. I have 2 watches in my collection on bracelets and they are a Rolex and a Tudor !!!!! So anything that falls slightly short exaggerated to me!!! Have a great weekend!
I got a new one from Creation Watches over two years ago for £170. Don't wear it a lot but I'll never sell as it looks too good in my collection 🤣
Thank you for watching Jason!
Well done and welcome Stan!
I had one of these and really wanted to love it, but couldn't get past the small size of the time-telling face -- those slide rule rings make for a surprisingly small face and short hands. Stellar review!
Thanks for watching Joe! It is surprising how small the actual dial face is, that’s for sure. The watch definitely grew on me though!
Gives a Breitling a run for it's money. Yellow hands are lovely. Top purchase Mr Mad 👍
What a great review, I have been looking forward to your input on the Flighty.
It looks perfect on your wrist with NDC.
You hit the pros/cons perfectly. I can live with the weird strap width and spring bar placement with a NDC. The black/yellow Barton strap looks perfect for it too. I may have to pick one up. The Flighty and NDC are a perfect combo. It is the most comfortable watch I own, and it actually looks nice higher on the arm. At 8.75" wrist, it wears like my Sub. I just love the Flighty's charm. It is quite arguably, the best bang for your buck out there. History, accuracy, no servicing costs for a chrono, gmt, 200M WR, screw down buttons, crowns.
As you can tell, I adore mine. It sits next to watches that cost much more, but it doesn't look out of place. As TGV stated, it's an analog G Shock. hahahaha
Dig the new character, perfect to add the investment Stanpoint.
Thanks Brandon!!! I couldn’t believe how well it fitted! The price you pay is those awkward lug positions!!! But once the straps on……. It’s brilliant!!
Yay, a new character! Good work MWC!
Hahahaha cheers Sam!!! Appreciate the support!
Well done MWC. Love my 5610 solar as well. A true stunna! I have my Flighty on the Volmer mesh from LIW and it looks OEM and is very comfortable to wear daily.
Excellent! I adore my Flighty. I didn’t know about the Omega. I learned!!!
Thanks for watching Bryan! I know!! It’s not until you do your research that you find out some great little tid bits!
Awesome show as always MWC! Mr Pagani really made me chuckle this week 🤣 Secondhand Stan is a great addition too!
This is the most comprehensive video I’ve seen on how the sub dials on the Flightmaster actually work. I actually almost understand how that 6 o’clock alarm/dual time dial works now! 😂 I’m no closer to being able to use a slide rule bezel though 🤣 For some reason I still really want a watch with a slide rule bezel 🤷♂️
I love the Flightmaster! It’s a total icon that I like many others first became aware of thanks to TGV. I absolutely love the look of the classic monochrome 80s RAF issued Seiko chronographs but this reference is the one I think of when I hear the name Flightmaster. On an NDC strap though of course 😂
I think a chronograph is going to be my next lower end watch purchase and it’s between the good old Flighty or one of those Sugees panda dial chronographs with the Seagull ST1901 🤔😬
You’re absolutely crushing it recently MWC. Keep up the great work 👏👏👏👏
Thanks Gareth! Appreciate that a lot!! I know you’ve seen more than enough of my shows!!!!!
The busy dial certainly put me off for years . But when a busy dial is designed well and you look deeper into the making of it. It’s an impressive little watch!
Love it. I own it. I took the bracelet off immediate, basically before it was even built.
Mine is on a 21mm barton elite silicone strap. Black and bright yellow to match the dial.
A lot of people have put theirs on a Barton strap, I will be looking them up! Thanks for watching Anthony!
Still love this watch and still want to add it to my collection. Many thanks as always for this excellent review, your time and efforts to share this with us all.
I have the the SNA411 on the NDC strap and it a nice looker. I also have the SND255P1, blue dial, on a blue and orange nato for a daily work watch. Both are great watches. Nice review MWC.👍
Great review Russ. I really appreciate it as I've had this watch under my eye for a long time. Here in the US Amazon is selling it for $239 which is about £174. After watching your review I like it even more. I think it may be time to pull the trigger on this cracking piece 🙂 Thank you again and have a wonderful day 🙏👏👍👊
Felo! That is great value I think! You never know they may discontinue it one day!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Thank you and I agree 👍
Russ - I pulled the trigger on a Seiko Flightmaster today !!!! I cannot wait to get it. Thank you again for your review, it definitely helped me make up my mind on this cracking aviator piece.
@@felo6035 yes congratulations!!!!!!!!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Thank you my friend 🙏
Just ordered mine… I’ve been holding off for a long time. Then browsing through your channel and ended up here again. Now off to look for some straps for my new Flighty 😁👌🏻
Got mine a few years ago, absolutely love it, have it on a 22mm bond nato with curved spring bars, also works on a 20mm… I get a lot of comments. An absolutely must for any collection..
Awesome Mark! It’s definitely a talking piece!
Congrats on your originality and a good review to boot!
Appreciate that a lot N Wind! Thanks for watching! All the best.
I can rationalize a dive watch because I can swim, but I can't see myself getting a flight watch because I can't flight. But it is a cool watch.
Really great video on this useful beauty. Top two or three video on this watch. Well done! Love my Flightmaster. I don’t like big watches and was also concerned about how it would look to me on my 7” wrist. Wears like a dream (without that garbage bracelet of course). I use a black parachute NATO style strap. You inspired me to wear mine today 🤘🏼
Yes my friend!!! Thank you for watching the show my friend! Glad you got it on today!!
What a fantastic watch! Loved this video... As always. ;)
Would suit you a treat! You’d be flexing in a different way with this!!!! Put your Daytona down and get in with the Quality Quartz!
These videos are so well done...funny and good review too! Current favorite channel.
Very kind my friend! Thank you so much for watching and supportive the channel!
Yessss Russell! Great informative and entertaining video as always! Bring on Christmas I say! It's going to be top of my list!
Fantastic Nelson!!! You’ll love it!!!
It’s a great watch and a fantastic review! I’ve been a pilot for 28 years and I still can’t use the features of this watch’s slide rule bezel!!!! That’s what modern pilot apps are for!!! 😂
Hahaha!! Well I’m glad about that for myself my friend!!;)
The slide rule bezel on these type of watches is very useful for daily math computations (e.g., restaurant tips, price comparisons, sales taxes, currency conversions, etc).
I bought one a while back and wear it regularly. I currently have it on a black, with yellow underside, Barton Elite rubber strap (they do it in 21mm) which is very comfortable. I bought some curved watch pins that allow me to put a Nato on it a bit easier. If you're struggling with the NDC band that might be an option you could try.
I did know Barton did them ! Thank you!
Thanks very much for help Martin, I will definitely be looking in to Barton straps, particularly a good old brown leather one!
Thanks Martin, good option but I wish the yellow wasn't hidden underneath.
I have that strap on it, really like it, though currently looking for a brown distressed, leather strap as I feel it would look gorgeous on that I reckon.
I don't mind the original bracelet at all though.
Have owned this one for several years and it will never leave my collection of way way way too many watches! Price alert!!! Jomashop for less than $200 and that is the absolute steal!!!!
Have a look at steeldive watches, some say they're doing Seiko better than Seiko, and the price is a lot cheaper too,,great show by the way it's brilliant 👍💯🇬🇧
I got it and loved for a day. Then I hated it for about 6 months and now I love it and wear it every Monday because the dial looks busy in an optimistic way. Apperently, according to my other TH-cam binge watching channels, having an optimistic mindset is paramount. Thanks flighty, thanks.
Be positive my friend! It’s the only way to be in this world!!!!! Glad it’s back on the wrist!!!!
I love busy dials like these. I have the Citizen Nighthawk and I love it. I will definitely get the Flightmaster soon.
What a pair that would be my friend! Thanks so much for watching!
Always so entertaining. Great review as per usual
Thank you so much for watching my friend! I’m slowly improving!;)
Secondhand Stan 😂😂 you’ll thank me in the morning … 😂😂
Hahahahahahahaha cheers Terry!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR that was awesome!! Haha
Always thought too busy , but you may have convinced me . Great stuff
Another great video Russ matey, gotta love the old Seikos, thanks for putting me and my watch in Casio corner, a great honour, have a great weekend
It’s a pleasure Mike, thanks for tagging me in! That watch is coming in soon. All the best!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR cheers Russ, the 218H is a fantastic watch and cheap to buy, it comes in loads of colours and does everything you need a watch to do, I feel its starting to get quite a following in the Casio circles
Sna411One of my favorite watches very beautiful design very nice build just perfect
Great review on the flightmaster Russ! I do like mine on a comfy nato. Keeping my fingers crossed in case they ever reissue this stunna!
Pretty sure they are still making them my friend! However I don’t think it’ll be long!
Just bought the watch from creation watches using extra 10% discount. Paid the final price at the checkout £159. Amazing!
Very good review 👍
Thx for your work!
Congrats!! What a bargain!!!
I agree-the Flightmaster IS a great watch with a super-cool look!! I got mine from Creation Watches too, but I ordered it on a black leather strap, because I prefer straps to bracelets..
Love the new character Second hand Stan. Top work mate. Bit too busy for me that watch, but a bargain from creation watches. I've used them before and really recommend them too.
Thanks for watching Ryan! It’s definitely a grower in the metal for sure!
Have it, love it. All those numbers and rulers that I don't understand somehow make me feel very clever.
The Flighty is a do anything watch. On a leather strap, it's a dress watch. On a NATO, you can wear it with anything. I wear mine on the NDC. I highly recommend it.
Need to get the Barton leather strap! 21 mm of loveliness hahahaha
Fantastic episode mate 😉 very smooth throughout. Definitely Will be picking up a flightmaster 😉
Cheers Richie!! Has to be done!
Excellent tip about laying the strap on the watch and adding the spring bars... wish I had done thst, would have spared my Nato some wear and tear. But it does look tremendous on Nato. The bracelet gets a bad rap, I've enjoyed it on that as well.
Thank you my friend! Well the only bracelet watches I wear are the black bay 58 and the Explorer ! It’s got a lot to live up to I guess;)
Just got the Flightmaster in 2022 for $299.00 USD off Amazon. I didn't know what to think of it at first, I was ready to send it back. I already knew the band was crap, so I had ordered in advance a dark green leather Nato style. Still on the fence days later (without wearing it), I put it on and took it outside. Right then, the dial blew up. As soon as the sunlight hit it, I was mesmerized. It was beautiful. I told myself, "No way am I sending this back." Then I added the Nato strap and now it looks and wears beautifully.
The stock bracelet is heavy by itself. I like a watch with a little weight to it, but not where I'm mindful of it. Once I put on the Nato strap, the watch felt the right weight for me, and like I said, looks great.
Fun Fact: I had bought a Blue Angels Nighthawk at the same time, the strap on that is beautiful, and the watch is great. But next to the Flightmaster, the dial looks a bit cartoon-ish.
Thank you for sharing this experience my friend ! A lot of people may have taken it back at the start but you found what works for you and that’s great!
Great review, love mine. I have it on a Marine Nationale strap and used curved spring bars, gives you a little more room for the strap. Cheers
Thanks for watching Andrew! Curved spring bars are definitely the way to go!!
Been looking at creation watches on this for a while but always been worried about the import tax. Thanks for the advice
great review, convinced me to pull the trigger! if you don’t mind clarifying, was it the Royal Mail or DHL (duty on delivery) option that you chose on Creation? Also UK based. Thanks!
It was the default postage option my friend, you won’t get original box but you won’t pay that Tax!
Brilliant - I bought one thanks for a great review.
I got mine about 3yrs ago when everyone was saying they were discontinued. That gold one needs to be in your ugly watches list by the way 🤣.
Hahahaha nice to hear from you Harold! Same battery???
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR oh ya, still on the same battery... but now that that's mentioned, probably jinxed it and die tonight 🤣.
This is my first time seeing secondhand Stan…I like him.
Hahahahaha he’ll be back!
With a paratrooper strap you wouldn’t be able to fit it through the spring bars anyways but I hear what your saying.
Great review, you covered everything honestly and I like that you covered the price new / used and at different sites
Bought mine about 6 months ago , got it on a limited edition single pass NDC strap. I always prefer saphire but this domed hardlex crystal is something else ! Stunning watch and a true bargain for what you get. The strap is not good so spoon it !
Hahahaha 100% spoon it Dale! I really do love that dome too!
For some reason I’ve been avoiding this watch for years but I don’t know why 🤪 And I love TGV. However after watching your video…… I just bought one!!! 😁😁😁 Thanks for yet another great review!!!
Yes Jack!!!! Superb!!! Congrats my friend
Had one for six years and only put a new battery in it within the last three months. My crystal is scratched from an early morning wheel change within the first two years of owning it, I occasionally put it on the bracelet but it spends most of its time on a black, quick release leather racing strap which looks great.
Excellent my friend! Continue to wear it in good health!!
Great review love using creation watches another watch to consider.
I know! Almost an untapped resource ! They were till selling SKX 013’s at a decent price not too long ago!
I put mine on a Barton silicone strap black on the outside and yellow on the inside I think everyone is putting it on the same strap, because it’s sharp as hell! Nothing wrong with the bracelet, I brushed mine with a green scotchbrite pad and it’s gorgeous
Nice one Mark! Thanks for watching my friend!
I’ve got one for 3 years. Still impressed by the design everytime I wear this absoulte masterpiece. The bracelet does get a lot of scratches over time. And after all those years of wearing it almost daily, I often get compliments on it :). Think the next one on my collection will be a sports 5.
Congrats my friend! Couldn’t handle the bracelet! Too chunky for me!;)
My first "real" watch and Im hooked. Next on the list is a seiko skx mod (etsy), presage with a pretty dialand then maybe the royal oak seiko mod watch (etsy)
That seiko 5 rolex explorer homage is noice too
Got one over the holidays. Put it on an NDC style elastic strap but in black. I like it a lot. Great video.
Thanks for watching my friend! Chuffed you’re still in love with the watch! Can’t wrong with NDC strap!
I'm gonna try your method of installing the NATO on it tonight!!! Genius! I've been searching far and wide for curved 21mm lugs to fit never thought about what you did. Thanks!
Yes my friend!!!;) it was the only way I could do it! A little fiddly but the strap hasn’t popped out yet!!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR it worked brilliantly! Appreciate the tip!
Love your video. Great edits! 👌🏻😎👌🏻🇨🇦
Thank you for watching my friend!
I wasn't keen but now it's growing on me. I really like the yellow seconds hand. Nice to see second hand Stan and Mr P. For a second when his moustache fell off I couldn't help but think he might be a distant relative of yours :)
Hahahahaha so hot in MADHQ , the sweat was not helping keeping that moustache on!!!
It’s a lovely pilots watch full of features we don’t need or will use! But it’s great!
Your review is spot-on.
I didn't even bother with the bracelet and odd sized lugs are some kind of cruel prank.
I have a Flightmaster on yellow & green paratrooper style strap (part of my travel watch trio).
*There is a rumour, that the Seiko Flightmaster is discontinued.
Oooooo I haven’t heard that my friend!!!! It’s a great watch and that would be a shame! Thanks for watching!
Top work. Still on the fence about this model. Loving Secondhand Stan™️…😂👍👍
Cheers Simon! I was too, for a long time… but once I got it, it really did grow on me! All the best my friend.
Secondhand Stan ! awesome matey ! Bought mine from Amazon for £185 a few years back , of course TGV inspired me to buy , just like everyone else! keep on a bezelling my friend 😜
Thanks so much Mal! Yes he finally ground me down too!
I LOVE the flighty bracelet. Guess I like’em chunky. Also ANY leader/stitched leather strap will look amazing on any pilot’s watch… ❤
I've hardly taken my 5610 off my wrist since March. I absolutely love it, maybe thinking about my time in the 80s.
That is superb my friend, thanks for watching!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR 🤗
I see dexter picked up a new hobby, glad to see him fascinated with watches instead of blood
Great review Russ. 👏
Thank you my friend!
Had Mine since 2013.. but got strap with the Flighty colours from Cheapest NATO straps....in Sweden & British Virgin Islands, Brilliant Stuff...Well Done Mate! Cheers!
Thanks For watching James! How many battery changes have you had?
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR only 4 since...then Bloody things are a bother ...but hit the lottery with 2 of them 4 years each...Check out Cheapest NATO straps Incredible prices & Top Shelf Quality...Gobsmacked when I received mine ...fits the Flighty with No Problems, Cheers! MWC JSMB
I wear mine on the Rios IWC style strap. Looks the part and it’s 21mm. I choose to wear it on leather because it reminds me to not get it wet as I keep the pushers unscrewed so I can actually use them!
That is a great idea my friend!
Been after one of these for ages but buying online from Singapore put me off! Looking to get one from Creation Watches which delivery option did you go for DHL or Airmail? Love the channel and great review.
DHL Daniel no added fees loved it!
Nice one thanks for responding. I will go with the DHL option without the import fee. Worst case I get collared for import tax but still have an awesome watch.
Great review, with some laughs too.. Subscribed. 👍
David! Appreciate that and welcome aboard!!
2:35, The original ‘Flightmaster’ was the 7T34 in the very early 90’s, your SNA411 is the 2° iteration of the model, updated for the 21st Century. 09:47, Excerpt taken from Airbus A350 FCOM manual: ‘ As a general rule, during the scan sequence of the overhead panel:
ALL WHITE LIGHTS (except MAINTENANCE panel) OFF ‘. Yes it’s dark up there (night time).
Watched this and just bought a new Bezel and crystal for my Flightmaster so I can wear it as a beater watch.....Don't wear it enough!!! time to stop babying my favorites!!!!
SNA413 Blue one is the beezknees, bought it last week...
still in the Post....Bezel and crystal for that one inbound too!!!
Ok I have to say I laughed a lot watching this, wish all videos were the same. Good job man! You should have a comedy channel. Very good review as well.
Thank you so much Doc!! Appreciate that!
Another entertaining video. I think I’m gonna like Secondhand Stan!
Thanks for watching Dennis! Do you think he’s a keeper?
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Absolutely a keeper! Perfect for when Kurt can’t make an appearance. .
First video I've seen of yours. You made sure there was well thought content with the comedy.
I appreciate that a lot Mike thank you!
Great addition to your Collection Russ
Thanks Jim!!!! All the best
Great review you crack me up like always 🤣
I love what you are doing bro. Very, very nice.
I appreciate that a lot my friend! All the best to you and have a great weekend!
TGV claims that, in fact, you can use Polywatch on hardlex. So, which is correct?
Super review, as always 😎👍🙂
Thanks Mario!!
I have a Casio Edifice EQS500DB-1A1 and it covers many of the features needed for a pilot. There’s also a EF527D-1AV that’s got a proper flight computer and is sapphire crystal. Yet Seiko is more charming.
Great video! Do not like the watch at all but found it very entertaining. amazing job!
Roberto!! Thanks for watching my friend! I appreciate that a lot seeing you don’t like the watch!;)
You da man, ‘second hand Stan’ 👏👏👏
Hahahahaha cheers Nigel!
Hahaha. so fun to watch!, subbed
Thanks HB!
Just got one about 3 weeks back and love it.
Awesome Phillip!! Was it a grower or was it love at first sight?;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR I had one years ago and lost it somewhere. I thought to myself I’ll get another one of these days. 20 watches later I figured it was time I grab another. (Ha ha ha never thought I’d be buying so many bloody watches) Kinda kicking myself for not replacing it sooner. It’s a real fun watch.
Mr pagani is outstanding and super funny 😂😂😂
He should be in every video.... Good work.
Thank you my friend!
TGV’s got it right with the Marine Nationale strap. I’ve been wanting this one for years.
Love the vids lad, video idea: best value in-house movement
Thanks very much my friend, that is a great idea! A few episode perhaps?! All the best.
Loved your review and love your channel. I own one and is a great watch. Just don't get that much negativities about the bracelet. It is an average bracelet. Just like all the Seiko divers. There is actually a nice touch on the bracelet if you haven't noticed. The links form like airplain wing from side. I wouldn't toss that into the bin and put on a cheep nylon strap because the "great" TGV did the same.
Appreciate that a lot my friend! It’s a beautiful pick up and go tooly stunner this one!
Another crackin review Russ! Must admit I copied TGV too and wear it on a green and yellow French nationale nato. Perfect combo! Lovin secondhand Stan! Sure I've seen him round my local market! Not sure the rolex he had were the real deal though! Lol..... See u in a Tick tick.....
John appreciate that a lot!!! Hahahahaha Stan certainly gets around!!
Here is an idea on a next video: when you buy a Flieger ie German pilot watch , do a presentation. Trick is to narrow it down. Do you go with the affordable ie Miyota powered (Laco) or go full tilt ETA (Stowa) . Though there are some good ones out there: Steinhart which is very affordable and they use SWISS ETA as they sell directly eliminating middle men, or B-Uhr,Tisell, Escapement Time, Parnis, corgeut
Like it Carlos!