HI there, thanks heaps for the showcase. I've tweaked a couple of things with the mod over the last few days after some feedback from users: AI targeting can be disabled now, and power consumption is customisable - you can set a multiplier to increase/decrease the 300MW (large grid pull,) change the small grid divisor if the 1/8th doesn't suit you, and there's also an option to have power requirement based on mass. I haven't changed the manual-turn-guns-on requirement because, as you mention, they can be grouped and turned on with a hotbar key, or enabled via programmable block (personally I use a PB to turn off cloak and then turn on guns 5s when "cooldown" is over.) The guns timeout is to partially balance the advantage of sneaking up. Anyway, glad you liked it, and thanks once again for the showcase!
What I would like to see is a cloaking device that allows who/whatever in the ship to see who/whatever is in the ship with it still being invisible from the outside. A bonus would be, if you walked in, you could see it and if you walked out, you couldn't.
+DragonBlitz85 It was also the only Executor-class Star Dreadnaught that carried the TIE Phantoms, as well as being one of two Executor Star Dreadnaughts to be outfitted with a Stygium cloaking device. Unfortunately, the dreadnaught, its TIE Phantom complement, and cloaking device were destroyed by Rebel sabotage.
im watching this a year late but imagine using this but have a projector projecting a ship at the same time so say your bieng chased and you have this you can quickly go behind a astroid cloak and shoot a out a projection far ahead of you so he chases it and you follow behind only to decloak behind and open hell on his engines in the back
I've downloaded this mod,but have yet to try it. I do have some questions though(which I might answer on my own. 1: What happens when you crash the cloaked ship with something else? Does it break the cloak? Or crash the game? 2: What happens when you add blocks to the cloaked ship? Are the new blocks visible? 3: Could this be used to hide "mines" around a base? Add a bunch of Warheads and a cloak 4: Can you cloak a station(space or ground)? 5: Can this be used with the Energy Shields mod? Are the Shields visible? Okay, I'm gonna go test these right now!
All questions I want to know the answer to, if it can be used with and make the energy shields invisible along with making ramming into other ships not decloak then it's potentially the most powerful weapon in multiplayer, you could tear through enemies like an invisible sword and they'd never see it coming.
hey might add it if it didnt cloak fully. I mean its almost transparent. see through enough to not be able to see from medium or far distance but you could notice if it moved in he backround if your too close to a player.
I was playing around with the mod and realized that it uses the same system to cloak things as loading better textures. If you turn down your graphics settings a block won't have good textures until you approach it, the better textures load over the worse ones in a similar way to how your ship cloaks.
would be neat if you could cloak your starbase when you're not on it.also, how goes the voice hunt? I did make a RWI themed log entry for giggles...not sure if that was the sort of thing you were looking for.
a nice idea on lan bases. but imagine that 4 are playing the game and has to move. The fire is like the bird of pray from start trek that has to uncloak in order to fire.
this mod could potentially change how a battle goes, also if u r putting it on one of your ships i'd put it on the phantom (a ship named after a term for ghosts being able to vanish like one)
I really wish there was some sort of glitch in the cloaking device mechanism that would cause it to glitter or something ever so often. So other ships aren't completely blind-sided by this. I think it's a bit overpowered. A really cool mod nonetheless however.
How hard could it be to simply program the cloaking device to create a big invisible box around the ship where it basically renders anything inside of it invisible to the outside? I'm sure it's laggy now because it's applying the gradual invisibility effect to every single block of the ship individually, but what if you just do it to the image of the ship all at once? In theory that would also make it so anyone within the "derendering box" would be able to see everything else in it just fine.
the real question is can this be used in pve? if it can hide you from those pesky player seeking drones, than that means it can hide you from pretty much anything, and make an interesting single player experiance, if not than you could potentially use special drones to hunt down cloaked ships in multi player
Maybe the AI turrets can detect cloaked/hit ships because they're tracking using scientific instruments normally utilized for cataloguing gaseous anomalies to track the plasma/ionized gas output by the cloaked ship's sublight drives?
Being able to fire immediately after uncloaking would just make the mod OP. Something like cloaking has to have serious consequences, otherwise it ruins the balance of a game.
It's a cool mod for thematic servers and games, but I don't feel it belongs in the main game. For one it's a highly advanced piece of military hardware which would be out of place as the game contains very little similar military equipment. Sure we have turrets but they feel pretty pathetic when you think of a military ship of today and it's weapon compliment, we don't even have auto cannons or basic space equivalents of Air to air missiles so a clocking device would feel like it was really at odds with the games level of military tech unless a whole new assortment of weapons and countermeasures were also introduced.
It is unknown if they will add water or how they will implement it, there's two routes they could take, making it dynamic and making it static, dynamic is likely impossible for Keen to implement seeing as how...lets say temperamental the game already is. Static water wouldn't be too difficult because it'd basically be a sphere overlaid on planets making a sea level where the terrain is low enough, downside being that you wouldn't be able to dig underground without water just magically being at that level regardless of how far from visible water you do so. Odds are they currently just don't want to spend the extra time and effort on it at the moment, figuring out how they'd want things to react to water etc, having stuff float or not too. The interior of ships not flooding would be pretty straightforward as they've already got the air pressurization code there so it'd just take some adjustments to that to make it work for water/air instead of vacuum/air. Long story short: God only knows when, how and why it isn't already in.
This would be better if it turned u not completely invisible but more see though. Maybe another version of the mod with this This is solely my opinion do not hate me
Exactly, I do use radar and shield mods. I am saying it would be cool if they implemented something like the transporter mod, where it has a block to stop unwanted transports; ie a block that detects cloaked ships
I'd say using the radar mods add a better balance than 'just' detecting cloaked ships, it detects everything that registers so it'd be more of a challenge to see which blip is a cloaked ship instead of it just going "oh look there it is". Still makes it so there's little to no reason to use the cloak if the enemy can just detect it anyway.
I don't think I like the idea of this in the vanilla game. It really doesn't fit with the aesthetic of the game; early deep space exploration and mining. Until planets were released it was all supposed to take place in the Asteroid Belt of our own solar system. Consider also that all 3 moons and two of the planets are modeled after planets in our Solar System and it still has the feel of taking place relatively close to home. Jump Drives and ion thrusters, remain the only science fiction systems in the vanilla game. And with Ion Drive experimentation occurring right now it's not a big stretch. Therefore Jump Drives remain the only truly sci-fi piece of tech in the vanilla game. And the ONLY reason it exists is so that travel between planets doesn't take real-world days...so it was a mechanical sacrifice in the interest of player enjoyment. That being said. I am by no means a vanilla player, and frequently run with about 20 mods and I am thrilled this mod exists and I will be using it extensively.
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HI there, thanks heaps for the showcase. I've tweaked a couple of things with the mod over the last few days after some feedback from users: AI targeting can be disabled now, and power consumption is customisable - you can set a multiplier to increase/decrease the 300MW (large grid pull,) change the small grid divisor if the 1/8th doesn't suit you, and there's also an option to have power requirement based on mass. I haven't changed the manual-turn-guns-on requirement because, as you mention, they can be grouped and turned on with a hotbar key, or enabled via programmable block (personally I use a PB to turn off cloak and then turn on guns 5s when "cooldown" is over.) The guns timeout is to partially balance the advantage of sneaking up.
Anyway, glad you liked it, and thanks once again for the showcase!
What I would like to see is a cloaking device that allows who/whatever in the ship to see who/whatever is in the ship with it still being invisible from the outside. A bonus would be, if you walked in, you could see it and if you walked out, you couldn't.
MineTech48 Nice Idea Lets Ask the creator
The eclipse has the perfect name and size for a cloaked ship
The 'Terror' from *Star Wars Legends*. It was a Super Star Destroyer that could become completely invisible.
DragonBlitz85 That, sounds incredibly terrifying. *SURPRISE*
+DragonBlitz85 It was also the only Executor-class Star Dreadnaught that carried the TIE Phantoms, as well as being one of two Executor Star Dreadnaughts to be outfitted with a Stygium cloaking device. Unfortunately, the dreadnaught, its TIE Phantom complement, and cloaking device were destroyed by Rebel sabotage.
Raymond W. Shipe,lll I was really hoping you would say was accidentally misplaced
DragonBlitz85 isn't that the SSD from rogue squadron 3?
Dont froget the TIE Phantom ! BTW Phantom´s can self-destruct to prevent capture of the cloaking matrix
All it needs is the sound effect from the romulans
Yes!
.....Put that on the Scimitar model, but rather put the device inside as it's a little more protected.
im watching this a year late but imagine using this but have a projector projecting a ship at the same time so say your bieng chased and you have this you can quickly go behind a astroid cloak and shoot a out a projection far ahead of you so he chases it and you follow behind only to decloak behind and open hell on his engines in the back
just get a timer block for uncloaking set it up with weapons switch and cloak on/off
all we need now is for the round shield mod to be remade don't get me wrong I don't mind the block looking one but like the round one more.
Can you use a jump drive while cloaked
I've downloaded this mod,but have yet to try it. I do have some questions though(which I might answer on my own.
1: What happens when you crash the cloaked ship with something else? Does it break the cloak? Or crash the game?
2: What happens when you add blocks to the cloaked ship? Are the new blocks visible?
3: Could this be used to hide "mines" around a base? Add a bunch of Warheads and a cloak
4: Can you cloak a station(space or ground)?
5: Can this be used with the Energy Shields mod? Are the Shields visible?
Okay, I'm gonna go test these right now!
All questions I want to know the answer to, if it can be used with and make the energy shields invisible along with making ramming into other ships not decloak then it's potentially the most powerful weapon in multiplayer, you could tear through enemies like an invisible sword and they'd never see it coming.
Masterdude94 Have you tested them yet? How'd it go? Are you going to make a video on this? I'd like to see that!
Not yet, I haven't made any videos yet, but I am going to try to record something this week, when I have time.
hey might add it if it didnt cloak fully. I mean its almost transparent. see through enough to not be able to see from medium or far distance but you could notice if it moved in he backround if your too close to a player.
A cloaking device this powerful could probably even cover my Praetor-class battleship! I wonder about what kind of mayhem that could cause.... ;P
I was playing around with the mod and realized that it uses the same system to cloak things as loading better textures. If you turn down your graphics settings a block won't have good textures until you approach it, the better textures load over the worse ones in a similar way to how your ship cloaks.
Will you still be visible if it cloaks while you're in a cryo-pod?
would be neat if you could cloak your starbase when you're not on it.also, how goes the voice hunt? I did make a RWI themed log entry for giggles...not sure if that was the sort of thing you were looking for.
You could make a spec force drop ship out of that
I liked that gray ship with the upward angled thrusters. Is that your creation? Link?
+Mark Baron Indeed, that is the RWI Discovery 😏
I like how the angled blocks were used to make the structure. Nice. Looking forward to a feature of the ship.
Imagine the next villain of Jack's next machinima series uncloaking in front of the Eclipse! Or whatever ship is planned for the next series!
I wonder if this would work with a warhead attached. Basically making cloaked mines
There are only 2 words which come into mind when I see this: RAMMING SPEED!!!
i wonder if I can cloak my 470m fleet carrier :3
Seems Legit That Kirito face REALLY makes you look serious :3
ik
Nah Xendor, he's just very intimately thinking about Asuna ;P
you can my friend ! you can
That's a very inquisitive face for that comment.... :3
jack do you still use the blue yeti? if so how do you get the quality so nice, if not what mic do you use now. also nice vid :D
Still rocking the Blue Yeti bro :P
a nice idea on lan bases. but imagine that 4 are playing the game and has to move. The fire is like the bird of pray from start trek that has to uncloak in order to fire.
that awesome I think I would love to sneak up on freinds!
kulsnipr 76 friends
I would love to pop up behind my friends with a big ass fleet out of nowhere.
Can it clock any docking ships? if so that would be awesome.
If the antenna of a friendly ship gone also or is it still see able
more funny seeing your character sitting around and flying in midair/space, that'll be funny
Can you put the cloaking device inside the ship as opposed to mounting it on the roof?
I would love to see that ship in the steam workshop
Cloaking device + tractor beam = open fire destroy all ships
Does this mod still work?
What happens if you activate weapons whilst Cloaked do they just not work?
this mod could potentially change how a battle goes, also if u r putting it on one of your ships i'd put it on the phantom (a ship named after a term for ghosts being able to vanish like one)
what about jump drive activation while cloaked?
Is there an RWI carrier
I really wish there was some sort of glitch in the cloaking device mechanism that would cause it to glitter or something ever so often. So other ships aren't completely blind-sided by this. I think it's a bit overpowered. A really cool mod nonetheless however.
How hard could it be to simply program the cloaking device to create a big invisible box around the ship where it basically renders anything inside of it invisible to the outside? I'm sure it's laggy now because it's applying the gradual invisibility effect to every single block of the ship individually, but what if you just do it to the image of the ship all at once? In theory that would also make it so anyone within the "derendering box" would be able to see everything else in it just fine.
the real question is can this be used in pve? if it can hide you from those pesky player seeking drones, than that means it can hide you from pretty much anything, and make an interesting single player experiance, if not than you could potentially use special drones to hunt down cloaked ships in multi player
Check the Steam page (Description), might have some more information for you :D
Maybe the AI turrets can detect cloaked/hit ships because they're tracking using scientific instruments normally utilized for cataloguing gaseous anomalies to track the plasma/ionized gas output by the cloaked ship's sublight drives?
Good one :P
Question...how is target from enemy ships affected when the cloak is on? Do they still fire or wait until your ship fires first?
He answered this in the video, AI controlled turrets will target and shoot the ship regardless of cloak being active.
Sol Zen the modded fixed this
No more targeting a cloaked ship
does the cloaking device only work on ships can you cloak a base on the ground
Statewide tfd it should be fine with that as u just need to place the device on top of your base
That is for the tie Phantoms
Being able to fire immediately after uncloaking would just make the mod OP. Something like cloaking has to have serious consequences, otherwise it ruins the balance of a game.
AWSOME!
ROMULANS!
the star trek and tauri can fight like in the TV shows!
Can a cloaked ship be detected by ai ships?
Yes because ai don't go for ships, they go for players, and can detect them from very very very far distances.
Maybe you could make the RWI Apollo some sort of experimental cloaking ship? Or make the Shadow command ship truly a shadow?
Also if my computer didn't lag I would be apart of the RWI.
Reaction to cloaking device:
Star wars :Woooooooow
Star trek :K
i have the mod now... prety nice for Scout ships And for large ships. very nice
It's a cool mod for thematic servers and games, but I don't feel it belongs in the main game.
For one it's a highly advanced piece of military hardware which would be out of place as the game contains very little similar military equipment. Sure we have turrets but they feel pretty pathetic when you think of a military ship of today and it's weapon compliment, we don't even have auto cannons or basic space equivalents of Air to air missiles so a clocking device would feel like it was really at odds with the games level of military tech unless a whole new assortment of weapons and countermeasures were also introduced.
oooh Man it's Soooo Cool :D
Is it available on console?
This mod is ... Awsome! What else is there to say? Dunno.
What to use this Mod on, any Sufficiently advanced looking Ship or Alien Ships.
you should build a klingon bird of prey and put it on that
What I want in space Engineers is Warter Do you think they will add it in to the game someday but why haven't added it yet can you guys tell me
and a water pump so you can drain it into tanks aswell
It is unknown if they will add water or how they will implement it, there's two routes they could take, making it dynamic and making it static, dynamic is likely impossible for Keen to implement seeing as how...lets say temperamental the game already is. Static water wouldn't be too difficult because it'd basically be a sphere overlaid on planets making a sea level where the terrain is low enough, downside being that you wouldn't be able to dig underground without water just magically being at that level regardless of how far from visible water you do so. Odds are they currently just don't want to spend the extra time and effort on it at the moment, figuring out how they'd want things to react to water etc, having stuff float or not too. The interior of ships not flooding would be pretty straightforward as they've already got the air pressurization code there so it'd just take some adjustments to that to make it work for water/air instead of vacuum/air.
Long story short: God only knows when, how and why it isn't already in.
Daniel Crawford can you English
Any romulan ship from star trek
it would be realy good to have an invizibiliti device
can you learn to see in the dark captain?
nemesis battle recreation pls
Can you put the device inside the ship?
No, because he's lazy.
+Eclipseslayer98 Thanks 😂😂😂
They should make it that you can see when your inside
Very sneaky scary
If the Cloak acted like the ones on StarTrek then maybe. I haven't exactly used it my self so I can not say.
its multiplayer compateble
stealth tanks here I come
This would be better if it turned u not completely invisible but more see though. Maybe another version of the mod with this
This is solely my opinion do not hate me
Jack can you do a review on the Apollo
+Alastair Lam Of course! When it's completely finished thought :)
hey jack I tried this cloaking mod on a ship I have that has about 60k blocks and it crashed my game
Jack When you will start making live video's ?
Why dont we have more cloaking mods!?
Can u release a non mod eclipse
Unlikely.
when you will upload rwi apollo in the workshop
Nbd Nbd when he introduces it to the story (redwood)
that is so cool
Damn second????
I would like Cloaking Devices for Space Engineers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if it could cloak this one large colony ship I know the existence of
Why don't you cloak a B-WING or an X-Wing ?
The commander sent small ships to do it
Romulan Warbirds
yes yes yes yes yes add it add it add it
modify the Phantom with the cloaking device
it needs to be something in vanilla
What if you had a kidnaping ship and de clocked after you have the ship in its hull...
the stargate daedalus and atlantis
I belive the 304 "Odyssey" was the one that cloaked :P
The Odyssey did cloak but that was with some voodoo magic when Daniel was a Prior of the Ori along with having a ZPM on board.
It seems broken without a way to detect cloaked ships
Use one of the radar mods, that should still pick it up. Kinda ruins the point of cloaking the ship though.
Exactly, I do use radar and shield mods. I am saying it would be cool if they implemented something like the transporter mod, where it has a block to stop unwanted transports; ie a block that detects cloaked ships
I'd say using the radar mods add a better balance than 'just' detecting cloaked ships, it detects everything that registers so it'd be more of a challenge to see which blip is a cloaked ship instead of it just going "oh look there it is". Still makes it so there's little to no reason to use the cloak if the enemy can just detect it anyway.
Colony wars mod?(add it plz)
Star Trek war birds
If you make a new starship and need a name can I suggest the name star opal
Where rwi is watching you
I don't think I like the idea of this in the vanilla game. It really doesn't fit with the aesthetic of the game; early deep space exploration and mining. Until planets were released it was all supposed to take place in the Asteroid Belt of our own solar system. Consider also that all 3 moons and two of the planets are modeled after planets in our Solar System and it still has the feel of taking place relatively close to home.
Jump Drives and ion thrusters, remain the only science fiction systems in the vanilla game. And with Ion Drive experimentation occurring right now it's not a big stretch. Therefore Jump Drives remain the only truly sci-fi piece of tech in the vanilla game. And the ONLY reason it exists is so that travel between planets doesn't take real-world days...so it was a mechanical sacrifice in the interest of player enjoyment.
That being said. I am by no means a vanilla player, and frequently run with about 20 mods and I am thrilled this mod exists and I will be using it extensively.
Cen2050
only 20 mods?
I run about 50.
Game takes about 4-6 minutes to load at that point though....
I have a 3 minute load time, it used to be like 6 when I was running the Star Wars mod...that thing is HUGE.
Cen2050 TD:LR I don't like it but I like it.
Still no ladders in vanilla game
First😁