reMarkable Paper Pro vs Boox Note Air 3 C - Which is the Best Colour E-Ink? Kaleido 3 vs Gallery 3
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If the question is "best" color then the PaperPro is a clear winner. Boox is dull in comparison and for a color upgrade definitely not worth it.
I totally agree.
Don't forget the screen size difference too.
I'm okay with the imperfections of each device. But I do prefer the better color of the Remarkable.
😂 5:13 “I can go to the web and distract myself… I can make those choices being an adult” Kit Bett-Masters 2024
That’s the way! That’s the way!
Great comparison. Remarkable is the clear winner here. Hopefully they will keep bringing out some good software updates to make the experience better and smoother
Thanks for sharing this. Personally, loving the colors of the Paper Pro more.
Thanks so much, yeah, they certainly are more true, but the trade off is the screen speed and flashing!
@@KitBetts-Masters I guess a better way to describe it is the double/triple flashes of the Remarkable versus the single refresh of the Boox. I guess it's the limitation of the technology - having to move ink particles versus changing RGB.
Out of curiosity I played the video at 0.25x speed. The remarkable had 5 flashes and the Boox had just 1. I wonder how this would affect people with photosensitive epilepsy.
My whole thing is that I need app or browser access for school to be able to read my textbooks and journal articles. It would be... remarkable if remarkable released a browser option, kindle compatability, and better cloud integration. Otherwise, it's just far too expensive of a device for what it can't do.
This is where I’m at too. I need an e-ink reader that will let me do what I need for school since so many textbooks are online instead of paper now. I need the flexibility and RMPP is beautiful but too pricey for what it can’t do, as you said!
There’s also a subscription required now which is very offputting.
Yeh, it won’t happen. These are highly tuned focused function premium devices. It’s part of the DNA of the company to make them razor sharp in functionality. For the Remarkable 2 I saw it as very clever. Many would have that for note taking and then an iPad or computer for media and colour ingestion. This device is for those who now want to get rid of the iPad as well.
Can't wait for BOOX to do a Gallery 3 device.
It's going to be very interesting to see what they do with the tech! They certainly shouldn't rush it out, you saw how Bigme got slated for the Galy!
@@KitBetts-Mastersnow that ReMarkable have laid their cards out, Onyx can’t fail. They could call it the Boox colour Flash or Boox Flicker 😂
@@KitBetts-Masterswith any luck they have been working on the tech for a while.
I'm still waiting on the RMPP to arrive. I THINK I may somehow be opposite to you about the flashing. Unless I'm just still in the excitement phase of the new device. When I see the selective area refreshing, it kind of tickles a part of my brain that enjoys seeing the solution to the problem. Seeing the EXACT pixels, and only the exact pixels 'quickly' refresh like that, makes me think of what's happening in the technology, and at least the idea and look of it through videos gives me a satisfying feel. When I've previously used e-ink devices I had always thought it would be good to see the screen refreshing only the pixels that need it in a competent way. I hope I still feel this way when using the device.
I don’t understand why most reviewers are making comparisons or reviews based on reading colour comic books? That is not the purpose of this tablet.
What is then?.. Color comic books are a perfect example to compare against, I don't see your point
@@flrn84791 Remarkable is a digital notebook. If you want to read comic books, get an Ipad or something similar.
100 years from now people would be amazed how slowly e-ink tech was moving back in 2024 and now they have true 60Hz refresh and 50 colours!
Here's to that!
Hahahha or humans exist no longer 😂 both most likely scenarios
Or battery tech will be such that a OLED tablet lasts for a month and eink doesnt exist. We already see that getting the Note Air C to have faster refresh destroys its battery so the battery is the real bottleneck
But o led is not as soft in the eyes
There's a show sci-fi called Sunny on Apple and I thought it was a cool effect that all the digital devices where textured e-ink.
Remarkable: focus/limited, slightly better white, much better colors, off putting flicker, good typefolio
Boox: android, basic video, good refresh rate
That's pretty much the long and short of it, yep.
There may be no one on earth who loves finger prints as much as you do 😆
I finally think i have reached my permanent device(s) for my use case. I have had A5X, A6x2, NA3C, RM2, Boox Go 10.3, and now RMPP. For my use case colors are important. I have settled on using the Go 10.3 for reading, studying while using the the RMPP for note taking and writing my lessons for teaching, i have them side by side while preparing my lessons. I am teaching from the RMPP and the colors are extremely helpful to my older eyes..
But i must say all these devices are use case specific. It truly depends on what your needs are. There's is just not one device that's going to support everyone's needs.
Thanks for bringing our attention to the flashing! it would literally drive me insane if I bought the Remarkable Paper Pro. Currently waiting on the Note Air 3c
No problem for me at all. Having RM Pro a couple of weeks :)
@@podeig No problem for me also, I love this thing.
Wow! The colours on the RMPP blow the Boox tablet out of the water.
The ReMarkable Paper Pro clearly has its niche - those who want a premium experience in a limited set of features. Knowing how many suffer from Attention issues in the social media world and struggle with working memory, I completely understand this. While the colours look more vibrant, besides the limited feature set, I simply couldn’t live with the colour cycling on the ReMarkable. Based on your analysis and excellent videos, I bought a Boox Note Air 3C in March. So far it has been excellent. I now feel even more happy. I have a feeling we’ll see an A4 colour device from Onyx very soon.
Great video as always! I gave away my note air 3c, it was just to dark and frontlight drained the battery. The Go 10,3 was much better and the form factor much better than the note series. Then my Go 10,3 got stolen the day before the RMpp was realesed. Now I have used the RMpp for almost a week and it is great. I like all the feautres of Boox, but it is a relife to not always worrying if I have the correct settings. The RM has the apps/desktop/web integration that works great. Furthermore, this is a linux device and hopfully I can install syncthing soon.
So worth it for the nice colors! Night and day difference. Note taking (the main point of the the device) is also better on Remarkable IMO since the strokes have no real lag. Love it! Your comparison is so leading man. The remarkable screen is obviously better, obviously slower, obviously brighter, and obviously higher resolution in color. I just wish it was cheaper that it is.
remarkable is terrible. slower refreshing rate is completely destroy the product, others advantages are marginally better but not critical enough to justify its price
@@devilalwayscry That's a shame and I believe it. What I was trying to say is that the demo didn't make this apparent. For the use cases shown, I would still prefer the Remarkable
This is the reviews i was waiting for. I love my remarkable 2 and was so excited by the announcement of paper pro but it doesn't seem like enough of an upgrade. I need it at least to be able to handle more document types!
Although the flashing is annoying, I am only turning the page less than 5% of the time whereas I am actually looking at the page 95% of the time. I would much rather have a RPP.
Thank you 🙏 we requested it, you delivered, well worth it. Can see the clear difference.
the paper pro screen has me really optimistic for color e-ink but I do agree that the performance isn't quite there for people who've gotten used to the performance of modern b/w or koleido e-ink
Tantalizing. The Paper Pro proves that we can expect more from colour e-ink in the future. But this twitchy, flickering mess isn’t ready for prime time. Maybe in another year or three? In the meantime, colour is a want rather than a need for me, so I’ll happily stay with my monochrome Carta 1200 tablet.
I'm still amazed that they went for Gallery 3. I kinda feel that's what a smaller start up company might have gambled with. We'll see how the market responds over time.
So you are saying you like an IPad with an e-ink screen? Eg a Boox device. Whereas in your earlier videos you talk about non-distraction and eye strain. Now it does seem you are saying you are “an adult”, so you don’t get distracted with notifications or lots of apps….I have an iPad that I use as an adult and an RM I use for thinking, writing, and reflecting…. I have a Boox note Air 3c. I have really tried to like it…. But in reality it’s just a bit of a dodgy iPad with a different screen. It is so complicated it doesn’t work for highlighting, note taking without lots of messing about…. I google on my iPad / phone and I read on my kindle. I have been pulled down the whole e-ink rabbit hole and I love the remarkable and have ordered the Pro… but IPad is still a powerhouse that Boox can’t really reach for me….. I know YMMV… But I am an IPad / RM guy. They both are amazing in totally different ways.
Both devices are excellent; one is a tablet with note-taking capabilities, and the other is solely for note-taking. Knocking the RM for features that it chooses not to include is odd. It really depends on the individual, but the refresh rate on videos is more noticeable than in person on the rM. When I'm using the device and concentrating on writing or reading colored notes, I don't even notice it.
Why would I bother using an eink device to do smartphone things on? Looks painful just watching you go on that browser. I have a iPhone pro max and a MacBook and a desktop PC. I really don’t need to punish myself by using a laggy eink device for anything other than writing and reading documents. Which are the two things that I won’t use my Apple devices for. That’s the point isn’t it?
@KitBetts-Masters is missing that point .. Or he can't just get himself to like rMPP.. Such a fanboy!
I was given the ReMarkable 2 as a birthday gift last year, and have since acquired the Kindle Scribe, the Boox Tab Ultra C Pro, and a week or so ago got the ReMarkable Paper Pro. While the colors are really nice on the Paper Pro, there's not much else I love about it, and I'm thinking of returning it. The larger size feels slightly unwieldy to me. The color inking is laggy, and the screen refresh/flashing is distracting. While I do like the screen feel, I actually slightly prefer the screen feel of the ReMarkable 2. I prefer the stylus functionality from the Scribe, with its side button erase option, and I would love to see that implemented on the other tablets. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of the screen feel on the Boox Tab Ultra C Pro, the colors are a bit too dull, and the grayish screen bothers me, the functionality of the Tab Ultra C Pro is light years ahead, and as a result it will probably continue to be my go-to going forward. If I could get the size and screen feel of the ReMarkable 2, the stylus functionality of the Scribe, the functionality and flexibility of the Tab Ultra C Pro, and the colors of the Paper Pro all in one tablet, I'd be a happy camper! 🤣
I keep trying to like the Remarkable. But that page “stutter” is a hard thing to ignore. Especially while drawing it is even more noticeable (understatement). Hopefully it can be fixed as a firmware update. And it’s not baked into the hardware.
Great video looking to purchase the Paper Pro and the colours are night and day. Remarkable does have great colour.
Great video! I have the attention of a squirrel so the Remarkable Pro would work better for me. Loving the color of the Remarkable, but Boox makes pretty solid devices as well. The Remarkable Pro definitely taps into a very specific niche. I started using paper notebooks again for journaling because I missed being able to write in color ink or highlight in color. I immediately ordered the Remarkable Pro! Now I can stop losing my journal or leaving it behind.
I brought a boox note air 3 c about 3 weeks ago. But then Paper Pro came out a week after I brought boox. So I brought paper pro. I still have a week to return boox note air 3 c. I'm still waiting for paper pro to come in the mail. but I think I'll keep both. I'll probably give my elementary school kid note air 3 c to use (it'll be good to see a digital history of his work from school age) and I'll keep paper pro for myself
I know its a lot of extra cost, and the contrast of the blacks is slightly degraded, but I feel the best application for gallery (outside of signage where refresh doesnt matter) is having permanent coloured book covers on a device while sleeping.
I think it still makes the most sense for predominantly black and white content while using it - and it is a lot of added cost for that functionality.
Wait - u pre-empted my question!
I think most of the colours in the boox are not usable for higlightings though. I also noticed that there still is the bug when you first draw a line in the notes and there is a delay. Re2 was much smoother for things like dragging text once you put it in the selection box, I wonder how the repp does in that regard too, but as another person said, not sure it is a good upgrade from a note air 2 as the colour by not popping up lose "functionality" too, it does add some aesthethic but it seems that in the repp they can also be used.
I miss from the pdf reader the button that allow you to go to the page you were before (really, really useful if you are reading a pdf with many links to other pages)
I dont mind the flashing at all its very quick but what you get in return is more vibrant colour I’ll take that trade off
Can you do a video on which eink tablet will you buy if you only had to pick one.?
What about the super note? I saw so much positive feedback on that but it is getting confusing because you seem to have all e-ink notebooks.
I am using the Air 3C just not because it is eink, or just not because it is color, I am using it because so many useful things Boox put inside the software, the seamless cloud integration inside the note and neoreader, the webdav, the android os, super nice note app, and the hundreds of other tweaks. I came from the iPad and Galaxy tablets, and no tablets give such seamless integration with so many clouds inside the notebook app. So yes, the Gallery 3 screen is good, but that is nowhere near to replace my Boox tablet. And the subscription for RM sync, seriously?
Is there a Bigme device which is equivalent to the Boox Note Air 3 C and Tab Ultra C Pro?
@@jakibotham5600 yeah, closest is the inknote x. It's the best that Bigme have made yet. 🙂
The size and color saturation out-weight the slight refresh, ill take the Paper Pro. As for the BOOX, it seems for activity you have to adjust settings to make it work best. Pretty annoying to do and a bit frustratingly distracting.
Can you do a simple comparison with bigme Galy? just focus on the image quality.
Hey, thx for your videos 😊 do you know if there is a boox tab x color coming soon ? After seing all your reviews, I thinks it would be the perfect device for my use. The note air c and c ultra pro are too small !
The Paper Pro is a remarkable piece of engineering, but for those who do simply want something to replace their notebooks, I don't think that the color is worth the extra cost or the distraction (of all things) of all the flashing (that would for sure bother me). Two months in on my Go 10.3 (my first e-ink tablet), I'm just blown away how much I enjoy it. The build, the thinness, the writing, the 300dpi. To me-and I understand this is probably blasphemy to some-but the Go 10.3 is the current Remarkable 3 that, I assume, will eventually come to market. It reminds me of the Apple Vision Pro-a big amazing thing for a small number of users. The rest of the world, however, is waiting for the Apple Vision (non-Pro).*
*Totally just an example. As big of an Apple fan that I am, I'm not waiting for the world to have itself covered in headsets, even amazing ones Apple makes.
I have the Go 10.3 but not enjoying writing on it. Waiting to see what Supernote comes ups with the A5X2.
I maintain that the ideal would be some mix of the RM’s and Supernote’s best features. I bought the Boox Ultra Tab C and hate the writing experience (barely better than the feel of an iPad). Also for such an expensive device, it dings up so easily. I’ve owned my remarkable for years and no damage. Nor on my supernote. But the boox has so many scratches and dents and I’ve never even dropped it.
Currently I have the Go 10.3 and I only use it to read pdf (math, physics). Although I like the device so much, I wish that the screen were a bit (or a lot) larger. Therefore, the bigger screen RMPP is very appealing. I just hope that the lower screen resolution is not so terrible for reading pdfs. By the way, I heard you said reading large pdf files feels slow on the remarkable, no?
Interesting! There is an admittedly notable difference in the colour reproduction. However, I do wonder how long (if ever) it will take to get used to the flicker after every page change. Seems to take me out of it every time.
By now I'm honestly a bit baffled by these comparisons. I've owned a Boox Note Air 3C, and it sucked! The background is incredibly grey, colours were almost indistinguishable, ghosting was insane. I had to return it. I've ordered the Paper Pro, and it might not be for me after I test it, but setting up the Boox as a great device is just... I don't understand it. And the fingerprint reader because it's a Pro device, while being stuck with an old version of Android that rarely receives security updates, it's not a nice look.
Yeah, I hear you on some of that, but I think this comparison focused on the screen technology. I've always talked about the learning curve with Boox.
Bought the boox last year too to replace my rm2 but sent it fast back again. The gosting was just too much and the lack of vibrancy, it wasnt the upgrade i hoped for so i stayed with my rm2. Im looking forward for my rmpp to be delivered =D
ah yea and i hated the latency of the boox
edit: i was hoping for fujitisus A4 gallery 3 but seems it wont happen soon thats why i setteled with the rm again
Amazing quality of the video , from the perspective of the focus - the focus is on the both devices, NA3C as well as on the RM PP, allowing to really adequately/objectively compare the displayed content/letters very precisely. This is great.
Can you please advice which camera (Gear) have you used when filming this video?
Hiya, top down shot is Canon R5, with an older 17-35mm f/4 L lens. Stopped down to f/7.1 I think. :-)
Kitt, you’re a Boox fanboy…how could you possibly look at the Boox UI and say it’s “civilized”…? The flashing doesn’t even compare to the madness of Boox devices. I’ve also never understood reviewers who pull up YT and say they wouldn’t use it but you can…what’s the point of a use case that’s hypothetical?
It's just showing what can be done with the screen. It's like watching a review of a car who takes it out for a track day to show you what piece of technology you are paying for. You know that power is there, should you ever need it to get you out of trouble. Similarly, as Boox Tab Ultra C can handle video at 15fps, it can probably manage a page turn in an unobtrusive manner.
Totally agree though, that was what I was trying to get across, I was amazed by how I felt when I "went back to Boox" from the rM Pro and didn't have the jarring flashing.
Can we agree a new adjective for Boox, "cultured" UI, "comprehensive" UI... I'm open to suggestions! :-)
What’s wrong with the boox ui? It looks good. Has all the info I need.
Completely agree.. who cares about the technicality of the colors. These are note taking devices.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I loved this one
The flashing is diabolical
I've got a note air 2 plus, the look of the new displays is nice. I don't need to update for a while though.
bottom line: you need very bright diffuse room lighting to use the rmpp comfortably without front light. there's a range of low light conditions where the week front light helps. but there's a middle gap of lighting conditions where it's hard to read compared to a brighter background B&W screen like RM2. with BOOX Kaleida 3, lighting for every condition built in.
you are not wrong
Android e ink which can run whispersynch for kindle and has play store?
I'm going to end up having both the Tab ultra c that I got about a year ago and the RPP that I am waiting for. My previous experience with gallery 3 (Galy) makes me a lot more chill about the flashing. So for me it comes down to a 12-in remarkable with color. It fits a different space than every Boox or Bigme I owned.
One thing to bear in mind is that the kind of things that the Boox devices do would never work well with gallery 3 barring some miracle. Gallery 3 just can't move that fast which is why it's perfectly fine on the RPP which doesn't do the things that Boox does. I can't see a way they get around it where you could ever play a video on a gallery 3 however clever you are.
For me there is no choosing between the tab ultra c and the RPP because they are such different devices.
If you want the Play store, don't buy the RPP ...how simple is that.
Seems a good product but it’s just untenable for a 600 USD tablet to be locked into an OS with no browser or a single 3rd party app. It kills it for me from the get go.
What was the second Onyx device? The Note Air 3 C? And does it really have a more glare display? It is readable in bright light? And what was the more matte first Onyx device?
Matte was the Note Air 3 C, and other one was Tab Ultra C Pro. 🙂
@@KitBetts-Masters Good to know. I hate glossy displays. 😁
For web browsing, youtube, games, etc I use my phone. Why would I use e-ink (I have the Boox Note Air 3C) for those functions when my phone, which never leaves me, is so much better at them?
P.S. Apologies, that sounded a little too assertive. You are very welcome to use e-ink for whatever purpose your heart desires :)
In the meantime I've ordered the RMPP to replace my Boox NA3C because I only want e-ink for writing and reading PDFs.
Boox devices become more and more tablet-like now, and seems eventually it will just be another brand of tablet with eink screen. If someone really prioritizes all these rich features, why not just get an ipad air with pen.
What app, site are you using to read/get the comics ? :)
Color for remakable more vivid
Thx Bro for testing - but now - return your RPP and stop whining. thank you :-)
The Ghosting on my boox note air 3c is unreal.
aren’t they both 10.3”?
Doesn't look like it. The one on the right looks much bigger.
The colour on the Remarkable looks so significantly better than the Kaleido 3, I think the flicker seems fairly insignificant, but obviously would only work for page turns I would assume not scrolling which I wish they would work out
'I can make those choices, being adult." xD
Boox cant paint yellow and red.
Please make the music more silent
Thanks, I try to get a balance! :-)
I liked it
wow this direct comparison finally answers it for me: remarkable made a bad design decision
I can not deal wjth the flashing. it triggers something inside of me that creates discomfort
Colors are much more beautiful on the Caleido.
Do you think? That's the Boox Note Air 3 C and Tab Ultra C Pro. Do you mean the Gallery?
Remarkable is trying hard to be the Apple of the einks. But Apple plays well with others, while remarkable doesn’t even let you use a separate Bluetooth keyboard.
Boox all the way for the value.