reMarkable Paper Pro: The Ultimate Comparison!

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  • @heatherhutchinson3625
    @heatherhutchinson3625 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am joining everyone else in thanking you for wonderful demo! The Gallery 3 tech clearly seems a lot less sharp at black text content because there is no true black. Even newspapers are printed with CMYK which has a black color for the texts! As limited as Kaleido 3 is, each individual pixel can still show true black.

  • @rideralarm
    @rideralarm หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for taking the time to make two great videos on the Remarkable Paper Pro. So far, I find your videos to be the most informative on this new device. I agree with a lot of the points you made. When putting the devices next to each other to compare the text contrast, Remarkable PP's weakness clearly shows. However, when looking only its screen, our eyes adapt to it after a while. The color feature is really attractive on Remarkable PP. The picture at 9:30 is amazing. I may end up buying two devices, one for reading and one for writing. I may go with (Boox Tab X + a 2nd hand Remarkable 2) or (Book Go 10.3 + ReMarkable PP).
    If you plan to continue to make videos on this device, I wonder if you could test in an indoor environment with normal lighting, whether having the front light at max level can compensate the darkness of ReMarkable PP's screen, to make it at least comparable to Remarkable 2.

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for your comment. I will now move into using the device productively - and not only for reviews, but I am planning some more videos as well. As it is raining today, I will do the indoor comparison with reM2 and Go10.3.
      By the way sooner or later my arsenal of e-ink devices will outgrow my time to spend with them, so the question is what to keep. And my current position is exactly your second option: For me the combination of the reM PP for the large screen and great color will be perfectly complemented by the Go10.3 for lighter luggage, pure text in bright sunlight, and some Android apps for reading.

  • @rackhamro
    @rackhamro หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for this outstanding demo, in particular for drawing/painting on the Remarkable Paper Pro ! AND the super tuning of the Boox Go 10.3 (the one I own) 😊

  • @Claude-tj6ud
    @Claude-tj6ud หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! Thanks. Helps me to decide I would not get a Gallery 3 device. Too much flickering on every page turn.

  • @MegamanNova
    @MegamanNova หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Missing side by side comparison with the Boox device with Kaleido 3 showing colors. Was hoping to see the same file of your colored document shown side by side with Boox.

    • @scottwhitlow8468
      @scottwhitlow8468 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. It was what I was looking for.

    • @MegamanNova
      @MegamanNova หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottwhitlow8468 Check Kit Betts-Masters video 4-days ago. I saw it after some searching for comparison vids like this. The 1 hour and 46 minutes long one. Check his side by side comparison with a Boox Kaleido 3 reader at around the 1 hour 8 minute mark.
      Indeed, Gallery 3 is much more color vibrant. But plenty of commenters during the live stream was always noticing the flickering per page turn. Trade offs

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kit and also Voja are two channels providing great reveiws and I am a fan of them since a long time, highly recommended. But since you asked, I will once again post a video on the reMarkable PP comparing with an Onyx color device. Stay tuned ...

  • @jensmander4137
    @jensmander4137 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vielen Dank für dieses Video! Es hilft mir zu entscheiden, ob ich das Paper Pro wirklich haben will. Die Größe ist toll, die Implementierung einer sanften Beleuchtung ohne die Dicke des Geräts zu erhöhen, die tolle Latenz... alles großartig. Aber dass das Schwarz nicht wirklich schwarz ist, dass der Bildschirm beim Einsatz von Farbe jedes Mal flackert, dass der Bildschirm grauer als der vom RM2, das ich nutze, ist, lässt mich zweifeln, ob ich ein Farb-Eink-Display möchte. Ich würde es so gerne mögen...

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ich habe versucht, es so "neutral" wie möglich zu vermitteln. Für mich ist das "Flackern" solange nicht störend, als es die Benutzbarkeit nicht beeinträchtigt, also z.B. das Umblättern behindert und dadurch alles langsamer wird. Das, was für mich zählt, ist was statisch zu sehen und zu lesen ist - bei "ruhiger" Seite. Es halt kein dynamisches Device, TH-cam würde nie vernünftig auf dieser Hardware laufen. Als ich vor 10+ Jahren zum ersten Mal ein E-Ink Display benutzt habe (sehr brauner Hintergrund und nur 150 ppi) war ich begeistert von der Lesbarkeit im Freien ... Und das war praktisch die Steinzeit dieser Technologie.
      Vielleicht nochmal meine Zusammenfassung: Wenn nur Text zählt, ist derzeit das Go 10.3 unschlagbar (ja Android hat es auch, aber auch einschläfernd langsam). Aber alles andere macht das reM PP besser. Und ich habe vielleicht keine Augen mehr wie mein 11-jähriger Sohn :-) aber in normaler Leseentfernung sieht es nicht anders aus als das reM2, das übrigens auch etwas blasser im Schwarzwert ist also das Go 10.3. Es ist für mich super auch über längere Passagen zum Lesen. Aber es ist eine sehr persönliche Entscheidung.
      Achja und last but not least: Die angebotenen 100 Tage sind doch ein Zeitraum, wo man so einiges testen kann und wirklich weiß, ob es das richtige ist.

  • @RPGenieUS
    @RPGenieUS หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You love your eink devices huh 😂, understandable I have too many as well. Great to get a good gauge of how the RPP screen looks. Thank you again for the time and effort on another video when you could just be enjoying your device 😊

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the kind comment! Will continue to use the device and report my findings.

  • @OzdogArt
    @OzdogArt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for posting this follow up video, very useful.

  • @robertopopitanu
    @robertopopitanu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the review! it would have been great to see the same handwritten notes (maybe only black ink notes) on the RM2 side by side in order to check the contrast and the difference between the two. It seems to me that the different screen coating makes the text less legible on the paper pro compared to the RM2.

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope you will like this one: th-cam.com/video/wEZauwoM_Zw/w-d-xo.html

  • @JoseDelgado-ol1lb
    @JoseDelgado-ol1lb หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video man! Appreciate all the comparisons

  • @Christian-Vain
    @Christian-Vain 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried it! I think they should take it off the market before they lose face! The writing sensation was much better on RM2! It has serious problems: when you refresh the page or use color (even just to highlight) that flashing is very annoying! I preferred a larger MR2 with 1300 technology! With the same writing sensation! ps: obviously I tried more than one.. same problem!

  • @jacksonier
    @jacksonier หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review! Thank you!

  • @davidr1431
    @davidr1431 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very helpful and interesting. Thank you.

  • @NizoniWulf-mz9ss
    @NizoniWulf-mz9ss หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review! Thank you!! One thing I don't see anyone in reviews doing is printing in colors other than black. Reviewers are doing long continuous back and forth lines. I may have missed you demonstrating writing in blue or or other. But, what happens to when you print in color? Does it flash each time you lift your pen?

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      th-cam.com/video/LTg0UH-7WfQ/w-d-xo.html I have done some Q&A and written content live in various colors. Does this help?

    • @NizoniWulf-mz9ss
      @NizoniWulf-mz9ss หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Artellico thank you!

  • @mbsgt112
    @mbsgt112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! Gives me the right information to choose from all the options. I own the Boox go 10.3, and indeed this one of the best options actually. A bit surprised about that coming from a company like Boox that usually goes for mass production. The RM PP looks somehow interesting but I also get the feel that this technology will be old very quickly. There seems to be a lot of compromises made in order to make it work..

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I fully understand your point. As a tech nerd I do love the latest, greatest, fastest ... but I think they understand, that for productivity this does not count. And I always come back to the reMarkable (until recently version 2), because "it just works" ... I know this is Apple language again :-)
      So I convince myself to remember, regardless of the CPU clockspeed, memory (2GB is ridiculously low in 2024), it has two purposes: note taking and e-reading. It can even handle > 100MB PDFs easily. So what?

  • @coco_munroe
    @coco_munroe หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like the Palma but the android was brutal for me 😭 so I returned it. 😊

  • @Vliegende-Hollander
    @Vliegende-Hollander หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can I sync my notes/PDF on the RM Pro with my Google-Drive (or any other drives) like on Boox devices or do I have to manually export the files to save them like on the RM2?

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You can access Google Drive, OneDrive, and Dropbox, but not fully synch. You browse the files and can download the files to your device, annotate etc. and then re-upload. So while this is possible, it is not replacing the simplicity of a full SYNC.

    • @kjetit
      @kjetit หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will all your annotations be visable if you view the pdf in macos Preview or Adobe?

  • @klemmbaustein7233
    @klemmbaustein7233 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the great Video. My paper pro also arrived yesterday and I could test it today. I use the remarkable 2 before and the update is amazing. I read something today in the bed and there I hear every time I touch the display to change the side or something a tone from the paper pro, does your devices also make this?

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No I could not hear any noise like that. I had another issue so far, which I need to reproduce (device unresponsive after long period of inactivity - night - needing a reset). But my reM PP is absolutely silent.

    • @klemmbaustein7233
      @klemmbaustein7233 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Artellico ok thanks for the feedback, then I will contact the support

  • @liketheduck
    @liketheduck หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love that it’s a Linux device from a (mostly) trustworthy company. Boox makes me nervous and runs old android.

    • @fouzr
      @fouzr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The fact that they give you full access if you so please and do whatever you want with the hardware *you own*

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Just something I have not metioned and did not find in the reM 2 the last time I wanted to "hack" the software ... You now need to enable "developer mode" explicitly to give you SSH access. And do this early on in your journey as it wipes the entire device.

    • @fouzr
      @fouzr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Artellico assuming you set it up correctly, even if it wipes the device, everything should be in the cloud. Just that it’ll take a while to fetch _everything_
      on another note, does dev mode show an extra setting screen? Also, I’ve heard the pen feels more slippery than the rM2, how much of that is true? My rM2 has actually worn out a bit, cause the writing feel is smoother and less tactile than the brand new rM2s my friends bought

    • @slothsarecool
      @slothsarecool หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fouzrdon’t forget it’s China, they surely collect all your data

  • @neeharikabhavarajuvenkata8926
    @neeharikabhavarajuvenkata8926 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! Thank you for the review. I need a device to read RFP documents in PDF form (page range is 30 - 125 pages). I am using kindle scribe at present but i am not very happy with it. Also color is not that important for me. Having access to Microsoft Teams application would be an added benefit. Can you please suggest the device I go for?

    • @MamaJama-b8c
      @MamaJama-b8c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Boox tab X

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it depends on what type of user experience you want. Is this the use case for e-ink? IF yes, then Tab X is an option, I agree, but maybe also Tab Ultra C Pro - productivity, colors, speed, ... Or the Go 10.3, which I prefer if you don't need the massive size of the Tab X. Regarding MS Teams, is it about video calls? Then, of course, you need a front-facing cam ... So a couple of options :-)

  • @zhandosa77777
    @zhandosa77777 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you see and use Kindle scribe?
    What about reading black and text on Kindle scribe, whiteness of screen to compare with Onyx go 10.3 ?

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I purchased the Kindle Scribe immediately when it came out (in Europe), but I have sent it back after extensive evaluation. I know that the software has evolved quite a bit since. The Kindle is - for my use case - too much limited as I am not so deep in the Kindle ecosystem. Sure I buy some books, but more often tech gadgets. My books are sourced from other stores that give you unencrypted PDFs or ePubs. This is why it is not the ideal device for me.
      As far as I remember, the reading experience on the Kindle Scribe was very good as well, but I cannot do a side-by-side anymore.

    • @zhandosa77777
      @zhandosa77777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Artellico Thank you for the answer!

    • @RyanKonnad
      @RyanKonnad หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would you mind sharing some of the sources where you find your books? I'm looking to get away from the Kindle books and more into open PDF and ePub books myself.

  • @SightlyJester
    @SightlyJester หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please tell me which one is better when studying notes, I care that the text is more grand them vertically so as not to strain the eyes so much, and that you can also take notes well. But above all that it is good to study my PDFs because I do not want to have to print them and carry everywhere a lot of sheets to study.

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If reading text is your main concern, my first choice is Go 10.3, followed by reMarkable 2, with all advantages of simplicity, but the limitations of the ecosystem.
      But - this is also true for me - if large PDFs are your thing (A4 / US letter), then bigger is better ... Then the Paper Pro is the winner.

  • @yiduohe-mq2vj
    @yiduohe-mq2vj หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How does the remarkable paper pro's size compare to an A4 paper? I want to buy it to read journal articles and I own the Sony DPT RP1. I wonder if the remarkable's screen is too small.

    • @EH-dx8mr
      @EH-dx8mr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A4 diag = 36.37 cm = 14.96 inches
      RPP diag = 28.67 cm = 11.8 inches
      dif = 7.7 cm = 3.16 inches
      To compare; most colored e-ink devices (in kaleido 3) : 25.02 cm = 10.3 inches
      Dif with A4 = 11.34 cm = 4.66 inches.
      So... It's still be a bit smaller than A4 but better than other devices and colors are way more vivids than with kaleido 3.
      I've a tab ultra C (boox), in 10.3 but i really think about RPP. I read a lot of work papers and comics (french and us on it) and i'm a bit frustrated with size and color.
      I don't know if i buy it or if i wait for a boox system... It's hard.

  • @jacksonier
    @jacksonier หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which application did you use for showing the PDF on the Go10.3? I think it was not NeoReader, some other? Would the image quality be the same in the NeoReader, since it's a native app...?

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I used a few, mainly Neoreader and the included library organization feature. However, this was never properly synching between dives, so I changed to Bookfusion (a cross-platform e-book tool). You can optimize the settings for e-ink, the only advantage Neoreader had for me: sever settings to truncate the margins to make large PDFs better readable ... BTW, this is still painful while possible on the reMarkable tablets.
      Regarding the image quality, I did not see any difference, this is controlled in the e-ink center.

  • @NishitNath23
    @NishitNath23 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know why people aren't talking about the extremely loud high pitched noise that the Paper Pro makes. I got mine yesterday and it drove me up the wall within 30 minutes of using it. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD does it make your ears bleed.

    • @Claude-tj6ud
      @Claude-tj6ud หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe it's only your unit that has this problem?

    • @NishitNath23
      @NishitNath23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Claude-tj6udoriginally I thought so too. But slowly and steadily reviews and reddit are soaking about it. I'm extra sensitive to sounds so hate it, but it seems people have noticed it and find it extremely annoying

  • @zeroxinfinity5816
    @zeroxinfinity5816 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you think of rm color pro vs boox tab ultra c pro? I'm torn between the two

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am reluctant to give a recommendation without knowing your use case. If Android and many apps are necessary for you, there is nothing that beats the Onyx product line. If you go Onyx, my favorite is the Go 10.3 despite being B&W.
      If you need color, then the main arguments for the reMarkable Paper Pro - from my perspective - are: size, color quality, usability and simplicity, as well as the best integrated workflow. Again, if apps like Kindle, Medium, Substack, Reddit etc. are a must, then Android is the way to go.
      Does this help?

    • @KamalaChameleon
      @KamalaChameleon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Basically boils down to, Boox: way better refresh and rudimentary video, android. Remarkable: slightly better white, noticably better colors, very distracting refresh and flicker, focus

    • @zeroxinfinity5816
      @zeroxinfinity5816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Artellico Thank you! That really helps. with the cost of the boox tab ultra c being just as much as rm color pro, it makes it a hard sell

    • @zeroxinfinity5816
      @zeroxinfinity5816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KamalaChameleon Thanks! That's helpful. Honestly a combination of these two would make the perfect device.

    • @KamalaChameleon
      @KamalaChameleon หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zeroxinfinity5816also the typefolio on remarkable is very nice, and the camera bump on ultra pro bothers me, which is why I got a note air 3C. I really like mine but the most disappointing part about it is the whiteness without backlight.. it's more greyish. Still perfectly fine but not that crips contrast of text like black and white model. I really just treated my purchase as my expirment with the tech beyond Kindle. I might get something like the paperpro later on if they can get that contrast up and white looking white, and battery life is put to the test. Have fun spending hundreds of dollars on a e ink device lol, It was a confusing experience for me too

  • @zhandosa77777
    @zhandosa77777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!

  • @jacksonier
    @jacksonier หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 5:58 | When showing the RM PP on the natural light, from what I see (from what the video can show to us), it is not "very easy" to read the text , am I wrong? How do you perceive it when you were looking on that device in the natural light, were you able to read for a long time, easily, that text?

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I a normal desk setup - I am creating one more video about that - with no artificial lighting just beside the window, I do not need the reMPP lighting turned on. However, it is darker than them reM2 and the Go10.3, which are both much brighter.
      But I am 51 yo and have grown up with books printed on quite yellowish and low quality paper far away from white ... While the reMPP is not perfect in this area, it is no reason for me not to use it - the size and the color compensate this by far.

    • @jacksonier
      @jacksonier หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Artellico Got you, very interesting. Thanks.

  • @ikumaler
    @ikumaler หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Es gibt schon so viele videos auf Englisch, Warum macht ihr es nicht auf Deutsch? Oder wenigstens mit Untertiteln.

    • @Artellico
      @Artellico  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Danke trotzdem fürs Anschauen, mehr als 95% der Zuschauer sind aus US/UK und in Europa sind das immer noch Nischenthemen. Ich denke aktiv darüber nach, das mit Untertiteln zu machen, oder auch das mehrsprachige TH-cam-Feature zu nutzen, aber das erhöht den Workflow enorm, und derzeit sehe ich da noch Probleme, die ich nicht stemmen kann. Aber kommt Zeit kommt Rat. Ich werde das jedenfalls im Hinterkopf behalten!! Danke dir!