It is pretty badass. I don't like the XMen being shamed by other heroes tho. One guy dogging the whole team. Smh and Magneto can kidnap a lady and rizz her up right after for a kiss? What the actual factual fuck?
A nice overview of the series! I would have like to have seen my name in the descriptions "credits" as "inker" but, I get it... inkers are left out a lot. Secret Wars was a deadline nightmare, so being able to do all the pages on all issues was not possible. But I did the majority of inks on all 12 issues. :-)
1:23:00 "What is pain to one such as I? I will shut it out. Other men fall prey to the very specter of death... When her cold embrace seems imminent... they simply swoon into her arms! But I... I am Doom!" Wow! 😱 He's now my favorite villian!
The moment when Xaviers super secret specially trained Mutie squad gets punked out by a guy who can’t keep a steady job and has zero training in anything at all. I miss these kinds of comics.
Minus Jean, Hank and Bobby (I think he could have handled Warren), He took out Xavier and Scot first (...but why not Ororo?), then trounced everyone else. Storm should have been a problem, and Rogue COULD have been a problem if her precog powers ever kicked in, but she was too brash back then. However, the rest of the team wasn’t more than he’d faced, before. Wolverine IS a joke to him, unless Logan catches him waaaaaaaaaay distracted. Spider-Man is probably one of the biggest fouls for night crawler. Colossus isn’t more than Titania. Oh...oh... and Kitty wasn’t there. If she was fast enough. She could be a problem for a LOT more people, but she isn’t. Storm, blitzed, is a good idea too. Fighting her is like fighting the Torch - they’re nerfed by having people in the room they care about. Hm.
I remember this storyline so well. Some great books came out at this time. My favorite era of Spiderman. Always the happiest time of month when a small stack wrapped in brown paper arrived in my mailbox.
Something that no one ever talks about when they mention Secret Wars is that that story was somewhat used in the Spider-Man animated TV show with Madame web and the beyonder
I remember reading the original secret wars thinking it was so cool that comic book fans finally got to see Dr Dooms face without his mask on during secret wars, and Spider-Man's new symbiote costume was so cool then in the original secret wars too, plus we were introduced to the new Spider-woman as well then too.
When I first bought a stack of beat up comics , 3 issues of Secret Wars was in it. Most would say I got ripped off for paying $40 for 35 comic books in poor condition, but that stack is what inspired me to collect up to 5,000 comics over the course of ten years It also sparked my fascination with Secret Wars and eventually I found the entire set and finished the storyline. This video was a great chance to relive that time period. While others complain about the Toyline, my first intro was through the comics so I didnt realize the toy collection until a few commercials on tv. Anyway thanks for this amazing video.
Spiderman pretty much telling Nightcrawler, you couldn't beat me on the BEST day of your life (and webbing him up) and then swatting away Wolverine like a fly - EPIC.
Which is how it always should be with anything under the strength levels of thor and the hulk, hell spidey has been shown slugging it out with the hulk and not losing ground..
@@Listlesseye agreeded spidey should be weaker than hulk and thor but stronger than basically most avengers i put him at physical strength to be ironman level or above the thing and most big guys but not like too crazy
This is one of my all time favorite story arcs in the Marvel Universe. I was 14 when this hit the racks and am still, to this day, at the age of 50, a huge comic nerd. Thank goodness for comics.
The first comic arc I recall growing up was the Trial of Gambit stuff in Uncanny X-Men in the mid 90's lol. Almost 30 years later I'm still here. And like ya said, thank goodness for that.
Two very underrated awesome moments in this series: 1. Spider-Man taking Titania down easily, even before he gets his black suit. Shows how much of a formidable fighter he is. 2. Cap going back to free the super villains, only to find Wolverine and Magneto are already there doing the same. Some great character moments, even if some of the dialogue may be a bit dated. I miss some of the magic older comics had.
The were a lot of surprisingly good moments there. One of my favorites was Molecule Man's arc -- specifically the scene when he realized his true power (turning the fly into an ice cube), and how he got with Volcana and settled down (though sadly, I just now double-checked to be sure that I'd remembered correctly, and read that things didn't quite work out between them in the end).
the problem with the beyonder is the same "up the ante" problem in all comics. it feels so shallow to introduce some universe crushing power, only to come out later with someone else who dwarfs the first ones' power
Agreed. I'm curious as to when this level of convoluted one-upsmanship becomes the iceberg that slowly sinks the MCU...or is the Multiverse that iceberg...?
At the same time there’s small things compared to ants and then there’s what ants are to us. And then there’s us compared to super hero’s. And the. There’s super hero’s compared to galactus. Honestly it’s just cool regardless.
It's not the same, because the symbiote itself mixed with the personality of the person is what makes it who it becomes. So I don't believe it was venom here, but it was the symbiote that would later become venom because of the toxic nature of Eddie Brocks personality. Jusy my opinion.
@@SingingWhileDrunk lighten up gotta lighten up gotta lighten up right now. Lighten up gotta lighten up gotta lighten up right now...Shine like the sun Can anyone name the Band that is responsible for this song? There's a very special award for the winner.
I think the only problem I had with the series is that there was no explanation as to how Doom actually defeated the Beyonder. Stealing the Power Cosmic from Galactus shouldn’t have been enough considering the Beyonder had already disposed of Galactus earlier in the series.
There actually is a detailed explanation in the comics (and missing from this review)! When Galactus first approached the Beyonder at the start of the story, in space, Dr. Doom flew behind him in his wake. When the Beyonder slapped Galactus down, Doom was there and analyzed the Beyonder's power with his armor's sensors. He kept this information until after he stole Galactus' power, and used it to craft an absorption device in his armor to use on the Beyonder to steal his power, the caveat being he had to be very close, like within arm's reach, to use it. This is why he attacks the Beyonder head-on, because he's just trying to get close. The Beyonder utterly wrecks him, but begins dissecting Doom out of curiosity. Doom, even while his body is being broken apart, is able to reach the device still hidden in his breastplate and activate it, stealing the Beyonder's power and winning the Secret Wars!
@@jasonseipler2665 Thank you for the explanation! I was thinking the same thing the entire time after the Beyonder was scanning Doom and learning about him, then Doom shows up giant and thats it haha, like a page was missing.
@ComicsExplained I’ve probably commented on this video in the past and can’t recall but here I am yet again because I’ve read Secret Wars so many times in my life and it stands, to this day, as one of my favorite stories… I remember going to the comics store when I was like 11 and buying the TPB and 29 years later I still have the same one though it’s not in very good condition 😢 I can still remember so many lines that just cemented why Doom and Magneto were f’n awesome!!
Though he didn't use those words ("thot" didn't even exist 'til ~2010/2012), that's an evocatively accurate summation -- and yeah, that was one hell of a good scene there. :-)
I loved it when Marvel used to do the huge cross over stories. Me and my brother would walk to the White Hen to get all the new ones and sometimes take 3a buss with 3 transfers to get to a comic shop. Think the first one we did that for was the Contest of Champions a few years before this. Thanks for the video, brought back some good memories!
Just a idea but as a honor to Stan Lee since he's made cameos in all the marvel movies so far I think it would be dope to make him the One Above All and that was him watching over the situation. It just fits in too perfectly and in universe would explain why that guy always pops up.
@@RoxDZoro I know Jack Kirby has in one issue of fantastic 4 but as far the MCU goes I don't believe they have given a in universe answer to that guy so far.
On the topic of absorbing man. I had always thought to myself, if I had his powerset, I would make a bracelet/necklace/belt that had beads made from different materials. A bead of Uru, a bead of Adamantium, diamond, steel, concrete, ect ect ect. I would also go out of my way to meet molecule man, and have some custom, unique beads created for it.
This is something the kids of today can't understand. The world was so different at that time. Having Cable TV was not the afterthought it is today. There was NO internet. These publications were IT for us as kids! We looked forward with ANTICIPATION for release dates. I don't think there really is anything comparable currently. I love seeing kids today geek out over these same stories, because it lets me know I wasn't crazy after all.
"I am a prince of the Gods! I do not pledge my allegiance to many of mortal stature! This man I will follow through the gates of Hades!-Thor referring to Captain America Thor squashed that whole thing in an instant and he was right.
You need your own TV series lol, literally 70% of my comic book knowledge comes from you so thanks! Also like I mentioned before if I ever play a comic book role I'd like to have you as an advisor lol
Or an investment tip... When the Infinity War movie came out, the price of the original infinity war comics skyrocketed to insane levels. I think the price of the original 80s secret war comics are still kind of low, especially to how far they'll jump. I'd jump on them now before the price is astronomical.
I read comics, like a lot. This is confusing. I have a hard time seeing how they can do this “good vs evil” thing in the context of the Multiverse Saga and them fighting the extinction of reality. Maybe Beyonder Loki is exhausted from holding the multiverse together and is ready to just let the multiverse die and be reborn, unless the collaboration of these universes can show they deserve to exist. IDK just spitballing but so much of this story is contingent on good versus bad, so it’s hard to see how they can translate this to universes fighting, or AvX or whatever else they are planning on.
Dude! Awesome job! I wish you spoke of when Spidey humiliated the more powerful and overconfident Titania during their conflict which caused her to develop a fear of Spider-Man. Further showing how formidable the combination of spider-sense, speed, agility and strength are for Peter.
Secret Wars is the only marvel film I’m hyped for. I have never read comics, never liked the marvel movies all that much until I got into listening to comic experts on youtube. Best thing to listen to during big Space Engineers builds.
@@creatorwurms We all jus love seeing Rob get happy and hype over his favorite moments/ moments and comics he thinks are cool. I love that it makes me get happy and excited
Please, Do a massive Swamp Thing video! Please! From origin, through pre Alan Moore to Alan Moore and past into his modern day iterations, Please! Your long vids are so sick, and there is so much in that material!
@Galen Hill Damn!!! I remember that story! I think the point was even though they all had powers, they were all still "human". Things happen, but you have to bounce back. SMH, these comic books damn near raised me.
Colossus was 19 and kitty was 13 at the time. Which is disgusting. John Byrne had this gross habit of matching 12 year olds with adult men. He did it in his run of FF too. Ret-con’ed Sue Storm to have fallen in love with Read when he was 19 and she was 12. Marvel did a good job of quietly aging Kitty up to adult much latter, but in the beginning it was fucking retched.
@@ZeroCoolIsGod As opposed to some cultures nowadays doing the same, only in an official way? I find that more disgusting than someone pointing social issues in such a subtle way that most people aren't even aware of it...just my two cents.
@Andrei Burtila I am not entirely sure what you’re talking about. So, because some people somewhere on the planet approve of an adult entering a romantic relationship with a child, I shouldn’t point out how disgusting it is when it happens in a comic book? Look, it’s disgusting no matter where it happens. But seeing as this is a video about the X-men, it makes sense to bring up Kitty and Colossus. It would be weird to steer the conversation off to a tangent about... what culture? What culture specifically did you want to talk about? Why did you leave it out of your lame “but what about XX” argument?
@@ZeroCoolIsGod You may find it lame, how about you get out of your shell and think a bit. It seems disgusting, sure, totally agreed, with you so far. But it presents reality. Take a look at what happens to women in Hindu or somali marriages, or before, or after. You seem to miss the point. The author may look despicable or an a** but he's only showing a side of reality that nobody looks into. So before you qualify my comment as lame and stuff, you might want to understand that most comics present reality in an accessible way. The author himself might not like it, how about that? What if the writer, like Orwell for example, presents reality in a way that triggers feelings in you and tries to make you want to know where the whole situation comes from? I'm not looking for a debate. All I would like you to see is just a bit beyond the coloured facet and into the real world. Which is something that comics have been doing since the beginning of WW2. We're talking about Marvel, they usually have a bit of a lesson about society and life in general no matter how bad the story might be written. It's about reality, choices, situations just in a different way. Just as music, for example, does.
Sometimes I like objective summaries that only tell the story and thats it, but for stories like this I glad the story was "explained" bc you mentioned all the consequences or the reasons behind different plot points that I wouldnt have known otherwise. Great video!
This is probably my all time favorite Marvel crossover story. I know it's not perfect. And the writers even admitted it was just meant to sell toys. But it's so fun to see all my favorite characters interact. From Spiderman all the way to Dr. Doom. The Thing ACTUALLY being a great character as opposed to a one liner. It's just fun and interesting. I hope that if they ever incorporate it into the MCU the actually try to be as faithful as possible. Not just have it be a one film pony like Civil War. But go all out Infinity War style and make it a trilogy or something.
I remember reading this when I was around 10 or 12 and back then I had to collect all the issues so I could follow the story, unfortunately I lost the comics during the next years and I felt sad about it. Not so long ago I went to a comic store and asked if they had the full novel and they did. Best purchase I've done, it brought me to my younger years when I was a kid getting amazed and that feeling of awe of reading about super heroes and their stories. Thank you so much for this video, you have made my inner child smile with excitement.
1:12:54 I love that Klaw shows up and tries to be all meta by going "You narrate everything you do. Are you being recorded or something?" And then Doom just goes "Yeah, bro. I'm Doom. Everything I do is worthy of history."
17:33 is misinterpreted The reason Reed doesn't have Ben change back to human, is Reed was able to look into Ben's mind thanks to Franklin's power, and it was Ben who had a deep desire to remain as the Thing. Because Ben feared Alicia only loved the Thing, and didn't love the man inside. Like if you literally read the panels you displayed it says that
That was an amazing analysis, secret wars issue 2 was the first comic I bought, and after that I was a collector addict hanging in a comic book shops for 2-3 hours after school every day…
Okay, a few things: 1: I'm an avid fan of tech and I read comics regularly 2: I don't know if I'd call this story great. I mean, yeah, it's pretty decent, but there's definitely some problems with it. I would go into them, but that would take a while. Not disappointed, though. Wouldn't expect a great story from a toy selling scheme 3: I find it weird that you're complaining about technology while on technology. That's kinda like I wrote a book about how I hate writing.
@@them. I mean I think you & I both know what he was getting at. I'm sure he thinks it's great anyone can jump on YT and experience these old stories. But as someone old enough to have read comics as a child and also come of age at the same time "comics on the internet" did, I can attest that it isn't the same. If you're old enough to have bought them as a kid then you know what I mean. You couldn't just jump online, you waited for the new ones to drop or you got caught up on older ones at the comic book store, and it had alot more excitement to it, definitely a more special feeling. I think that's what he was trying to get at. I mean sure I like watching stuff on YT but it doesn't feel the same. So these days I wait for the physical collections (stuff like Omnibus-type things) of stories I dont know yet and buy those lol. Close as it gets.
This was a gateway for a lot of kids. I loved it. In the UK it was spread over I think 32 issues. It would be a bit of Secret Wars, a backup strip (Alpha Flight, Iceman, Iron Man 2020, Zoids spring to mind), and there was a running gag with a Secret Artist leaving doing humorous pictures of characters in Secret Wars in the Marvel Offices (check them out - they were really good!) and lots of 'free gifts' ubiquitous to UK comics at the time: stickers, posters on which to stick the stickers, sticker albums, transfers, pull out posters, etc. One little nitpick: not sure why you kept calling Klaw 'Ulysses Klaw' - he was never called that in the comic (or in general at the time) - he was just called 'Klaw'. It would be like constantly calling Dr Doom 'Victor Von Doom'.
Yes but he didn't say he was Rhodes to anyone in the whole story, because the ones that knew were him and Stark only, and he did'nt want the others to think of him as a novice among them. EDIT: Reed knew. In issue 9, Rhodes, who wasn't so familiar with the armor, asked for Reed's help and was forced by him to reveal that he was in fact not Tony Stark.
I really thought you were ending the video with Galactus and I hit the red bar to see how far in the video was n it just made me laugh. I always appreciate your videos and bringing forth these amazing stories!
Bro imagine being Hawkeye, that’s like playing basketball at your school, but then immediately being placed next to MJ, Lebron, Kobe, Steph C, and all the other greats…
All my friends where into comics growing up so I decided to also learn about the marvel universe and Secret Wars II was just starting. So I purchased only comics with the Secret Wars corner tab on the cover. That allowed me to get one comic of almost every series. So I felt like I had to also collect the original Secret Wars and is still probably my favorite 12 comics. That is basically my entire small collection. This video was such a jem for me, thank you.
@@_Spectrum_288 most likely they’ll just take the overall idea of the story and do their own tweaks on it like they did with civil war so to answer your question I don’t think we’ll get either
@@dutttxpe_8081 Oh alright, thx. Tbh I'd rather they twist the story a bit, otherwise what's the point of wasting money on something in which you know what is gonna happen cuz of the source material that you have read ?
@@_Spectrum_288 I understand to an extent but I think it’s just cool to see a good adaptation of an already great story but I do get where you’re coming from
Good breakdown of one of the more fun Marvel stories from the 80s. Would you consider a story breakdown of Daredevil #7, when he gets his red suit and takes on Namor?
I was 1 when this came out. I'm so happy you can find these old classics on your phone now. I read it right away I watched this video. Thanks Rob! Waiting on a contest or something for a Rob core ring! 😉😉
Dude I love your channel me bot reading comics but loving them so I dont know anything but you explain things that spark questions for every time and I love actually knowing what's going on or why people dont like other people and power/relationships
I must say, I enjoyed the breakdown. But after watching 9hours of your other Secret Wars Hickman run. I'm wanting more you can do so much more. You gota redo this video with all the random details and small pieces of info like you did with the 2015 Secret wars. None the less, thank you for even putting this together
This was one of my all time favorite stories ( # 10 awesome ) just looking at some of these panels reminds me of how much I miss Mike Zeck's pencils....anyone know whatever happened to him ?
Am I the only one who has to watch this on 3/4 playback speed to have any hope of absorbing any of the information? Great video even if I have to turn it from 2 hours into a 2.5 hour video to soak it in!
Thanks for all this Rob, 1984 was the year I really got into comics and this storyline is AMAZING! I always felt that Secret Wars was a sim of every possibility that could happen and we were reading just one iteration 🤔
Hey bro I just gotta say I love your videos. You have a great way of breaking stuff down so that folks like me who have missed a lot can still follow along. And even when I do get lost you let us know where to go back and watch something that will help fill in the blanks. So thank you for all you do and all your research. I gotta admit. You really know your stuff bro. And you tell it in a fun way as well. We'll done!
I was collecting and working part-time in a comic book store at the time this series dropped. I remember really enjoying it at the time. I liked the continuation of this in Secret Wars 2 even though it wasn't as well-received as the 1st series.
Imagine if we got a live action version of this instead of Endgame. Dr Doom leading an army of supervillains instead of Thanos leading an army would have been amazing.
These were an ominous and mind- blowing monthly event that centered my 1st full year collecting. This is how I got to know of most of these characters. One thing: who ever thought that the heroes would slay anyone for this Beyonder? Especially in 84.
I just saw the blurb from Spiderman saying "I wonder if I can sue her for infringement?" Right after spiderwoman showed up. Had to pause, cuz that was hilarious.
You move to Columbus? I live in New Albany and when this ban is lifted my buddy is putting about 30,000 comic books in his barber shop. You should come for sure.
I'm super new to the Marvel Universe in understanding it from the Comic viewer level. And these videos are TREMENDOUSLY helping me give the TRUE respect due to these wonderful characters. Ty so much for creating these tutorials 😊😊
Was in Columbus over 20 years ago driving across the country coincidentally during 9/11. Absolutely loved it. Just loved it. From Syracuse originally, so Columbus is a fantastic place to live and thrive. Keep up all the hard work Rob.
Forgot how badass this one is. Everyone is talking about the 2015 one but nobody ever gives the original enough credit.
It is pretty badass. I don't like the XMen being shamed by other heroes tho. One guy dogging the whole team. Smh and Magneto can kidnap a lady and rizz her up right after for a kiss? What the actual factual fuck?
i agree
A nice overview of the series! I would have like to have seen my name in the descriptions "credits" as "inker" but, I get it... inkers are left out a lot. Secret Wars was a deadline nightmare, so being able to do all the pages on all issues was not possible. But I did the majority of inks on all 12 issues. :-)
you are my favourite artist John Beatty. I would so love you to draw me a secret wars cover.
Did they ever make a Secret Wars Poster?
Hey man I stared at those books for years it was the most amazing thing to me as a kid in middle school.
Legend! Most fun comic ever
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wow, huge fan, Mr. Beatty! Nice to see you around these parts.
Doom being a BAMF, my all time favorite character having his low key first appearance, Magneto starting his redemption... Tak about a classic! 🤩
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Taskmaster
Namor
Galactus
Silver Surfer
Molecule Man
Franklin Richards
What character had their first appearance? 😮
@@BovineDesigns the Venom symbiote
It made me fall in love with Marvel as a kid.
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1:23:00 "What is pain to one such as I? I will shut it out. Other men fall prey to the very specter of death... When her cold embrace seems imminent... they simply swoon into her arms! But I... I am Doom!"
Wow! 😱 He's now my favorite villian!
Doom is the most layered super villain there is. His character is amazing.
and he really has some of the best and iconic lines. Sooo arrogant and entitled, great villain
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@@codekhalil6437The Books of Doom motion comic is in YT and is a great way to spend an hour and half.
The moment when Xaviers super secret specially trained Mutie squad gets punked out by a guy who can’t keep a steady job and has zero training in anything at all.
I miss these kinds of comics.
Minus Jean, Hank and Bobby (I think he could have handled Warren), He took out Xavier and Scot first (...but why not Ororo?), then trounced everyone else. Storm should have been a problem, and Rogue COULD have been a problem if her precog powers ever kicked in, but she was too brash back then. However, the rest of the team wasn’t more than he’d faced, before. Wolverine IS a joke to him, unless Logan catches him waaaaaaaaaay distracted. Spider-Man is probably one of the biggest fouls for night crawler. Colossus isn’t more than Titania. Oh...oh... and Kitty wasn’t there. If she was fast enough. She could be a problem for a LOT more people, but she isn’t. Storm, blitzed, is a good idea too. Fighting her is like fighting the Torch - they’re nerfed by having people in the room they care about. Hm.
Stan Lee: who wins in a fight between super heros? It's all up to the writer at the end whether you like it or not.
"He ain't gonna reach out and touch nobody, unless he can find a pay phone!"
Haha what a quintessentially 80's joke.
you’d be shocked, they had doom use a pay phone during sins of sinister.
I remember this storyline so well. Some great books came out at this time. My favorite era of Spiderman. Always the happiest time of month when a small stack wrapped in brown paper arrived in my mailbox.
Bro was getting donations from the mob 💀😭
Honestly I don't see Galactus as a super villain I see him as a force of nature
These are facts
Yea. Hurricane isn't a murderer...unless it's the UN manipulation of the weather to redirect a hurricane
The trial of Reed Richards brings that point home
That was actually mentioned in the comic
He's a force of nature, but also a conscious entity. There are some stories where he grapples with the morality of what he does.
Something that no one ever talks about when they mention Secret Wars is that that story was somewhat used in the Spider-Man animated TV show with Madame web and the beyonder
That's awesome!
And earl boen from terminator voiced the beyonder
Yeah i remember that!
Madame Web was hella annoying
@@1988ZER randomly poppin in with riddles and no damn help!
I remember reading the original secret wars thinking it was so cool that comic book fans finally got to see Dr Dooms face without his mask on during secret wars, and Spider-Man's new symbiote costume was so cool then in the original secret wars too, plus we were introduced to the new Spider-woman as well then too.
When I first bought a stack of beat up comics , 3 issues of Secret Wars was in it. Most would say I got ripped off for paying $40 for 35 comic books in poor condition, but that stack is what inspired me to collect up to 5,000 comics over the course of ten years It also sparked my fascination with Secret Wars and eventually I found the entire set and finished the storyline. This video was a great chance to relive that time period. While others complain about the Toyline, my first intro was through the comics so I didnt realize the toy collection until a few commercials on tv. Anyway thanks for this amazing video.
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Spiderman pretty much telling Nightcrawler, you couldn't beat me on the BEST day of your life (and webbing him up) and then swatting away Wolverine like a fly - EPIC.
On his best day 😂
Which is how it always should be with anything under the strength levels of thor and the hulk, hell spidey has been shown slugging it out with the hulk and not losing ground..
@@Listlesseye Precisely.
Nightcrawler could do beat Spider-Man. Not to be messed up but all he gotta do is teleport him to space 😂
@@Listlesseye agreeded spidey should be weaker than hulk and thor but stronger than basically most avengers i put him at physical strength to be ironman level or above the thing and most big guys but not like too crazy
This is one of my all time favorite story arcs in the Marvel Universe. I was 14 when this hit the racks and am still, to this day, at the age of 50, a huge comic nerd. Thank goodness for comics.
The first comic arc I recall growing up was the Trial of Gambit stuff in Uncanny X-Men in the mid 90's lol.
Almost 30 years later I'm still here. And like ya said, thank goodness for that.
im 41 just discovering comics now. 😅
Two very underrated awesome moments in this series:
1. Spider-Man taking Titania down easily, even before he gets his black suit. Shows how much of a formidable fighter he is.
2. Cap going back to free the super villains, only to find Wolverine and Magneto are already there doing the same.
Some great character moments, even if some of the dialogue may be a bit dated. I miss some of the magic older comics had.
The were a lot of surprisingly good moments there. One of my favorites was Molecule Man's arc -- specifically the scene when he realized his true power (turning the fly into an ice cube), and how he got with Volcana and settled down (though sadly, I just now double-checked to be sure that I'd remembered correctly, and read that things didn't quite work out between them in the end).
Cosmic Spiderman
And the beyonder introduction
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the problem with the beyonder is the same "up the ante" problem in all comics. it feels so shallow to introduce some universe crushing power, only to come out later with someone else who dwarfs the first ones' power
Agreed. I'm curious as to when this level of convoluted one-upsmanship becomes the iceberg that slowly sinks the MCU...or is the Multiverse that iceberg...?
At the same time there’s small things compared to ants and then there’s what ants are to us. And then there’s us compared to super hero’s. And the. There’s super hero’s compared to galactus. Honestly it’s just cool regardless.
thats the Dragonball mantra right there...
As someone who hasn't read these comics, thank you. This was a fun way to learn about the event :)
It's not the same, because the symbiote itself mixed with the personality of the person is what makes it who it becomes. So I don't believe it was venom here, but it was the symbiote that would later become venom because of the toxic nature of Eddie Brocks personality. Jusy my opinion.
I can do this all day!
@@SingingWhileDrunk Yea yea I know
@@lukenakfoor4128 man lighten up
@@SingingWhileDrunk lighten up gotta lighten up gotta lighten up right now. Lighten up gotta lighten up gotta lighten up right now...Shine like the sun
Can anyone name the Band that is responsible for this song? There's a very special award for the winner.
Spider-Man beating the entirety of the X-Men is still one of the best moments in Marvel History.
He was kinda getting after them, huh? Reminded me how powerful Spidey can be. Then Prof. X reminded me how X-Folks handle complicated situations.
Yeah...slapped them around pretty good didn't he ?
I totally agree!
I love the whole story but this part is by far my favorite. I have gotten crap from X-Men loving friends but still defend it.
...you misspelled "bullshit" 😉🤣
I think the only problem I had with the series is that there was no explanation as to how Doom actually defeated the Beyonder. Stealing the Power Cosmic from Galactus shouldn’t have been enough considering the Beyonder had already disposed of Galactus earlier in the series.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Chalk it up to doom being bmf.
Try reading the book about secret wars
There actually is a detailed explanation in the comics (and missing from this review)!
When Galactus first approached the Beyonder at the start of the story, in space, Dr. Doom flew behind him in his wake. When the Beyonder slapped Galactus down, Doom was there and analyzed the Beyonder's power with his armor's sensors. He kept this information until after he stole Galactus' power, and used it to craft an absorption device in his armor to use on the Beyonder to steal his power, the caveat being he had to be very close, like within arm's reach, to use it. This is why he attacks the Beyonder head-on, because he's just trying to get close. The Beyonder utterly wrecks him, but begins dissecting Doom out of curiosity. Doom, even while his body is being broken apart, is able to reach the device still hidden in his breastplate and activate it, stealing the Beyonder's power and winning the Secret Wars!
@@jasonseipler2665 Thank you for the explanation! I was thinking the same thing the entire time after the Beyonder was scanning Doom and learning about him, then Doom shows up giant and thats it haha, like a page was missing.
"Remember kids, violence isn't always the answer. But it is ***A*** answer, and usually a very effective one"
Wise Words to live by
This was the most exciting time in comic collecting for me, especially this series and its tie-ins
As a kid I was familiar with certain Marvel characters, but this was my introduction to the Marvel Universe.
@ComicsExplained I’ve probably commented on this video in the past and can’t recall but here I am yet again because I’ve read Secret Wars so many times in my life and it stands, to this day, as one of my favorite stories…
I remember going to the comics store when I was like 11 and buying the TPB and 29 years later I still have the same one though it’s not in very good condition 😢
I can still remember so many lines that just cemented why Doom and Magneto were f’n awesome!!
Captain America really said “LEAVE ME BE THOT” and knockout enchantress
@Animation And Stuff 1:03:43
Though he didn't use those words ("thot" didn't even exist 'til ~2010/2012), that's an evocatively accurate summation -- and yeah, that was one hell of a good scene there. :-)
And now Captain Marvel is the thot, really a die a hero moment.
I loved it when Marvel used to do the huge cross over stories. Me and my brother would walk to the White Hen to get all the new ones and sometimes take 3a buss with 3 transfers to get to a comic shop. Think the first one we did that for was the Contest of Champions a few years before this. Thanks for the video, brought back some good memories!
This was one of me and my lil bro favourites growing up. So happy to see it here. This channel is the best
Secret Wars, Atlantis Attacks, Mutant Massacre, Inferno. All big deals when i was younger.
Just a idea but as a honor to Stan Lee since he's made cameos in all the marvel movies so far I think it would be dope to make him the One Above All and that was him watching over the situation. It just fits in too perfectly and in universe would explain why that guy always pops up.
justin york I can get behind that
Wasn't he shown as the one above all before ?
@@RoxDZoro I know Jack Kirby has in one issue of fantastic 4 but as far the MCU goes I don't believe they have given a in universe answer to that guy so far.
“I am so fired!”
Jack Kirby is the one above all.
Day 1 after secret wars was officially revealed at comicon. View count: 3.3 million.
I remember the 2nd spider woman from the old iron man cartoon's, back when i was a kid, that brings back memories, that show was so good!
On the topic of absorbing man. I had always thought to myself, if I had his powerset, I would make a bracelet/necklace/belt that had beads made from different materials.
A bead of Uru, a bead of Adamantium, diamond, steel, concrete, ect ect ect.
I would also go out of my way to meet molecule man, and have some custom, unique beads created for it.
Kinda like Kevin Levin’s little bag of marbles made from different material that gwen tried to give him
To 15 year old me this was the greatest thing in the world when it came out.
I was 10 but yeah same.
Ernest Crunkleton both same
Dude oh my god this and Handbook of the Marvel Universe was awesome
@@bigrob351 No doubt! I had those also and they were the coolest thing ever. I went hunting down first appearances of characters just from those books
This is something the kids of today can't understand. The world was so different at that time. Having Cable TV was not the afterthought it is today. There was NO internet. These publications were IT for us as kids! We looked forward with ANTICIPATION for release dates. I don't think there really is anything comparable currently. I love seeing kids today geek out over these same stories, because it lets me know I wasn't crazy after all.
Captain America uses powers to fix his broken shield = Good
Dr. Doom uses powers to fix his broken face = Bad
Got to love Marvel's logic.
The difference is Captain America is using his powers to fix his shield to protect others. Not only just to protect himself.
"I am a prince of the Gods! I do not pledge my allegiance to many of mortal stature! This man I will follow through the gates of Hades!-Thor referring to Captain America
Thor squashed that whole thing in an instant and he was right.
Was the highlight of my 4th grade.
Each month for 12 years was a new issue, along with the comics all continuing inbetween
1984 rocked.
You need your own TV series lol, literally 70% of my comic book knowledge comes from you so thanks! Also like I mentioned before if I ever play a comic book role I'd like to have you as an advisor lol
Ah, my phase 6 homework.
Same 😎
Or an investment tip... When the Infinity War movie came out, the price of the original infinity war comics skyrocketed to insane levels. I think the price of the original 80s secret war comics are still kind of low, especially to how far they'll jump. I'd jump on them now before the price is astronomical.
crazy now we got RDJ playing doom for it
May 2027
I read comics, like a lot. This is confusing. I have a hard time seeing how they can do this “good vs evil” thing in the context of the Multiverse Saga and them fighting the extinction of reality. Maybe Beyonder Loki is exhausted from holding the multiverse together and is ready to just let the multiverse die and be reborn, unless the collaboration of these universes can show they deserve to exist. IDK just spitballing but so much of this story is contingent on good versus bad, so it’s hard to see how they can translate this to universes fighting, or AvX or whatever else they are planning on.
Doom: *becomes God*
Klaw: *just there*
I was not ready for Rob's impression of Magneto spitting game to Wasp xDDD
Dude! Awesome job!
I wish you spoke of when Spidey humiliated the more powerful and overconfident Titania during their conflict which caused her to develop a fear of Spider-Man. Further showing how formidable the combination of spider-sense, speed, agility and strength are for Peter.
Secret Wars is the only marvel film I’m hyped for. I have never read comics, never liked the marvel movies all that much until I got into listening to comic experts on youtube. Best thing to listen to during big Space Engineers builds.
Rumor has it THIS might be what the next MCU phase is based on.
But with the Multiverse like the most recent Secret Wars
That'd be interesting. I would've thought it'd be Avengers vs X-Men first
Rumor has wrong.
@JB JG well thats your opinion
Hope so
Man i enjoy these videos so much mostly because of how enthusiastic this guy is when he is reading these stories
Fax
@@creatorwurms We all jus love seeing Rob get happy and hype over his favorite moments/ moments and comics he thinks are cool. I love that it makes me get happy and excited
Yessss a full story comp for Secret wars. I loved this story and I love Rob
Please, Do a massive Swamp Thing video! Please! From origin, through pre Alan Moore to Alan Moore and past into his modern day iterations, Please! Your long vids are so sick, and there is so much in that material!
Just finished the series the other day and am excited to be watching it all at once now! Thank you!
As a kid I read perhaps 5 of the comics.. At almost 50 I'm glad through you I was able to finish.. Thanks!
Bro, your storytelling is off the damn chain! I really enjoy watching your videos! 🤜🏾🤛🏾😁
Its his sexy voice.....
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"Colossus! Stop tuggin' on it!" lol
You know what the secret was? _That Colossus made time with an alien broad while still with Kitty._
@Galen Hill Damn!!! I remember that story! I think the point was even though they all had powers, they were all still "human". Things happen, but you have to bounce back. SMH, these comic books damn near raised me.
Colossus was 19 and kitty was 13 at the time. Which is disgusting. John Byrne had this gross habit of matching 12 year olds with adult men. He did it in his run of FF too. Ret-con’ed Sue Storm to have fallen in love with Read when he was 19 and she was 12.
Marvel did a good job of quietly aging Kitty up to adult much latter, but in the beginning it was fucking retched.
@@ZeroCoolIsGod As opposed to some cultures nowadays doing the same, only in an official way? I find that more disgusting than someone pointing social issues in such a subtle way that most people aren't even aware of it...just my two cents.
@Andrei Burtila
I am not entirely sure what you’re talking about. So, because some people somewhere on the planet approve of an adult entering a romantic relationship with a child, I shouldn’t point out how disgusting it is when it happens in a comic book?
Look, it’s disgusting no matter where it happens. But seeing as this is a video about the X-men, it makes sense to bring up Kitty and Colossus. It would be weird to steer the conversation off to a tangent about... what culture? What culture specifically did you want to talk about? Why did you leave it out of your lame “but what about XX” argument?
@@ZeroCoolIsGod You may find it lame, how about you get out of your shell and think a bit. It seems disgusting, sure, totally agreed, with you so far. But it presents reality. Take a look at what happens to women in Hindu or somali marriages, or before, or after. You seem to miss the point. The author may look despicable or an a** but he's only showing a side of reality that nobody looks into. So before you qualify my comment as lame and stuff, you might want to understand that most comics present reality in an accessible way. The author himself might not like it, how about that? What if the writer, like Orwell for example, presents reality in a way that triggers feelings in you and tries to make you want to know where the whole situation comes from? I'm not looking for a debate. All I would like you to see is just a bit beyond the coloured facet and into the real world. Which is something that comics have been doing since the beginning of WW2. We're talking about Marvel, they usually have a bit of a lesson about society and life in general no matter how bad the story might be written. It's about reality, choices, situations just in a different way. Just as music, for example, does.
I like how they say altogether now like they’re in a musical at 59:47
Instead, they’re trying to murder an insanely powerful green lady
All the most marketable characters... and the Wrecking Crew
A Wrecking Crew movie would be lit, tho...
Wrecker is cool though. I have figures of all of those guys. Lol
Aren’t most of them in the Raft?
We will see the wrecking crew in the MCU...if they have batrock the leaper
I was hoping for a epilogue of the what if they stayed and their kids
I think I missed collecting a lot of these stories while growing up and I completely appreciate the energy that went into this essay.
I had a subscription and got these in the mail...still my favorite comic story ever
Sometimes I like objective summaries that only tell the story and thats it, but for stories like this I glad the story was "explained" bc you mentioned all the consequences or the reasons behind different plot points that I wouldnt have known otherwise. Great video!
37:50 skip the skillshare ad
UH NOOO HE WORK TOO HARD FOR THAT
This is probably my all time favorite Marvel crossover story. I know it's not perfect. And the writers even admitted it was just meant to sell toys. But it's so fun to see all my favorite characters interact. From Spiderman all the way to Dr. Doom. The Thing ACTUALLY being a great character as opposed to a one liner. It's just fun and interesting. I hope that if they ever incorporate it into the MCU the actually try to be as faithful as possible. Not just have it be a one film pony like Civil War. But go all out Infinity War style and make it a trilogy or something.
Nothing Wrong with Toys is story is good
I was a kid in the 80s this was how I got into comics along with super friends
one of the few doom appearances around this time where you knew it wasn't a doombot
I remember reading this when I was around 10 or 12 and back then I had to collect all the issues so I could follow the story, unfortunately I lost the comics during the next years and I felt sad about it. Not so long ago I went to a comic store and asked if they had the full novel and they did. Best purchase I've done, it brought me to my younger years when I was a kid getting amazed and that feeling of awe of reading about super heroes and their stories. Thank you so much for this video, you have made my inner child smile with excitement.
Close that tab, and put that thing away true believer! It's time for,
COMICS EXPLAINED!!!
🤣🤣🤣
lol that crazy cause I really did close that tab and put my thing away to watch this
And this is why doom is the greatest villain ever
I understand now
"My name is Jeff Albertson, everyone just calls me 'Comic Book Guy'."- Comics Explained.
"EVERYMAN"
1:12:54
I love that Klaw shows up and tries to be all meta by going "You narrate everything you do. Are you being recorded or something?" And then Doom just goes "Yeah, bro. I'm Doom. Everything I do is worthy of history."
One of my fav stories from the 80s hope to see rest of the secret wars stories 2 and 3 get vids too 😎🤘🙏
17:33 is misinterpreted
The reason Reed doesn't have Ben change back to human, is Reed was able to look into Ben's mind thanks to Franklin's power, and it was Ben who had a deep desire to remain as the Thing.
Because Ben feared Alicia only loved the Thing, and didn't love the man inside.
Like if you literally read the panels you displayed it says that
This is literally one of my favorite super stories .. all my favorite characters. .. I’ve watched like 3 times already
That was an amazing analysis, secret wars issue 2 was the first comic I bought, and after that I was a collector addict hanging in a comic book shops for 2-3 hours after school every day…
It’s unfortunate that with all of today’s technology the next generations will never understand how great comic books were.
I have a comic book store right down the street... They literally still have to be production inked to be included in the continuity...
@@djinngandee3179 whats that have to do with what i said
Or how to use the many powerful characters, properly.
Okay, a few things:
1: I'm an avid fan of tech and I read comics regularly
2: I don't know if I'd call this story great. I mean, yeah, it's pretty decent, but there's definitely some problems with it. I would go into them, but that would take a while. Not disappointed, though. Wouldn't expect a great story from a toy selling scheme
3: I find it weird that you're complaining about technology while on technology. That's kinda like I wrote a book about how I hate writing.
@@them. I mean I think you & I both know what he was getting at.
I'm sure he thinks it's great anyone can jump on YT and experience these old stories.
But as someone old enough to have read comics as a child and also come of age at the same time "comics on the internet" did, I can attest that it isn't the same. If you're old enough to have bought them as a kid then you know what I mean.
You couldn't just jump online, you waited for the new ones to drop or you got caught up on older ones at the comic book store, and it had alot more excitement to it, definitely a more special feeling.
I think that's what he was trying to get at. I mean sure I like watching stuff on YT but it doesn't feel the same. So these days I wait for the physical collections (stuff like Omnibus-type things) of stories I dont know yet and buy those lol. Close as it gets.
This was a gateway for a lot of kids. I loved it. In the UK it was spread over I think 32 issues. It would be a bit of Secret Wars, a backup strip (Alpha Flight, Iceman, Iron Man 2020, Zoids spring to mind), and there was a running gag with a Secret Artist leaving doing humorous pictures of characters in Secret Wars in the Marvel Offices (check them out - they were really good!) and lots of 'free gifts' ubiquitous to UK comics at the time: stickers, posters on which to stick the stickers, sticker albums, transfers, pull out posters, etc.
One little nitpick: not sure why you kept calling Klaw 'Ulysses Klaw' - he was never called that in the comic (or in general at the time) - he was just called 'Klaw'. It would be like constantly calling Dr Doom 'Victor Von Doom'.
Except it wasn't Stark in the Armor, It was Rhodes.
Yes but he didn't say he was Rhodes to anyone in the whole story, because the ones that knew were him and Stark only, and he did'nt want the others to think of him as a novice among them. EDIT: Reed knew. In issue 9, Rhodes, who wasn't so familiar with the armor, asked for Reed's help and was forced by him to reveal that he was in fact not Tony Stark.
Bruh Hawkeye was there, but iron man gapped…
I really thought you were ending the video with Galactus and I hit the red bar to see how far in the video was n it just made me laugh. I always appreciate your videos and bringing forth these amazing stories!
been waiting for your full story of this cant stand listening to other comic channels #explainordie #robcorps
One part you left out was how insignificant Hawkeye felt being surrounded by super powered beings.
Bro imagine being Hawkeye, that’s like playing basketball at your school, but then immediately being placed next to MJ, Lebron, Kobe, Steph C, and all the other greats…
One of my favorite story lines
All my friends where into comics growing up so I decided to also learn about the marvel universe and Secret Wars II was just starting. So I purchased only comics with the Secret Wars corner tab on the cover. That allowed me to get one comic of almost every series. So I felt like I had to also collect the original Secret Wars and is still probably my favorite 12 comics. That is basically my entire small collection. This video was such a jem for me, thank you.
Here after they revealed this’ll be a movie
There's two versions of this story.
How do we know which one ?
@@_Spectrum_288 most likely they’ll just take the overall idea of the story and do their own tweaks on it like they did with civil war so to answer your question I don’t think we’ll get either
@@dutttxpe_8081 Oh alright, thx.
Tbh I'd rather they twist the story a bit, otherwise what's the point of wasting money on something in which you know what is gonna happen cuz of the source material that you have read ?
@@_Spectrum_288 I understand to an extent but I think it’s just cool to see a good adaptation of an already great story but I do get where you’re coming from
@@dutttxpe_8081 I understand.
Like don't completely stray from the inspiration but make your own version unique in a way.
Good breakdown of one of the more fun Marvel stories from the 80s. Would you consider a story breakdown of Daredevil #7, when he gets his red suit and takes on Namor?
Dude you're the best. Love your work. I was able to catch up on years of missed comic books because of you. You're the best Rob!
I was 1 when this came out. I'm so happy you can find these old classics on your phone now. I read it right away I watched this video.
Thanks Rob! Waiting on a contest or something for a Rob core ring! 😉😉
Wolverine "Hands off, hawkeye. Cycplops may be a jerk, but he is OUR jerk." 🤣🤣🤣
Shots fired, as always
Dude I love your channel me bot reading comics but loving them so I dont know anything but you explain things that spark questions for every time and I love actually knowing what's going on or why people dont like other people and power/relationships
When Storm gives her speech to Charles , it is the same speech that Sun Tzu gives to The Emporer.
I must say, I enjoyed the breakdown.
But after watching 9hours of your other Secret Wars Hickman run. I'm wanting more you can do so much more. You gota redo this video with all the random details and small pieces of info like you did with the 2015 Secret wars. None the less, thank you for even putting this together
This was one of my all time favorite stories ( # 10 awesome ) just looking at some of these panels reminds me of how much I miss Mike Zeck's pencils....anyone know whatever happened to him ?
Am I the only one who has to watch this on 3/4 playback speed to have any hope of absorbing any of the information? Great video even if I have to turn it from 2 hours into a 2.5 hour video to soak it in!
It’s hard to keep up sometimes
Thanks for all this Rob, 1984 was the year I really got into comics and this storyline is AMAZING! I always felt that Secret Wars was a sim of every possibility that could happen and we were reading just one iteration 🤔
Is this gonna happen in upcoming avengers secret wars?
Absorbing Man is pretty lethal but I can't see him getting passed Rogue. Awesome video on Secret Wars--much appreciated.
Imagine a being being able to steal The Beyonder's power...ridiculous.
Too pushy
Hey bro I just gotta say I love your videos. You have a great way of breaking stuff down so that folks like me who have missed a lot can still follow along. And even when I do get lost you let us know where to go back and watch something that will help fill in the blanks. So thank you for all you do and all your research. I gotta admit. You really know your stuff bro. And you tell it in a fun way as well. We'll done!
I was collecting and working part-time in a comic book store at the time this series dropped. I remember really enjoying it at the time. I liked the continuation of this in Secret Wars 2 even though it wasn't as well-received as the 1st series.
This video is damn near as long as Endgame and you know what? Worth every minute. Thanks!
Imagine if we got a live action version of this instead of Endgame. Dr Doom leading an army of supervillains instead of Thanos leading an army would have been amazing.
We may get something like this on the big screen on day
@@sebastianwells9205 they would need Steve Rogers back
These were an ominous and mind- blowing monthly event that centered my 1st full year collecting. This is how I got to know of most of these characters.
One thing: who ever thought that the heroes would slay anyone for this Beyonder? Especially in 84.
You’re about to get a ton of views on this video
I just saw the blurb from Spiderman saying "I wonder if I can sue her for infringement?" Right after spiderwoman showed up. Had to pause, cuz that was hilarious.
You move to Columbus? I live in New Albany and when this ban is lifted my buddy is putting about 30,000 comic books in his barber shop. You should come for sure.
I live in Delaware and im putting 31000 in mine so you should come to mine instead
27:58 "Vo-Lump-tuous" Rob inventing words now.😏
I'm super new to the Marvel Universe in understanding it from the Comic viewer level. And these videos are TREMENDOUSLY helping me give the TRUE respect due to these wonderful characters. Ty so much for creating these tutorials 😊😊
Was in Columbus over 20 years ago driving across the country coincidentally during 9/11. Absolutely loved it. Just loved it. From Syracuse originally, so Columbus is a fantastic place to live and thrive. Keep up all the hard work Rob.
Glad I just watched this! Psyched for Avengers: Secret Wars🔥🔥🔥
It’ll most likely be based on Hickmans 2005 Secret Wars comic because it is a multiversal story.
Actually check out rob cpver 2015 secret wars. That is most likely what MCU is adapting loosely
Bring me back to my childhood, I remember waiting monthly for the latest book.