RAXXLA THEORIES : The Dark Loop

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  • In this episode of Raxxla theories i will be taking a look at the dark wheel novel by Robert Holdstock. I will be taking a closer look at the possible clues that this novel may contain in regards to Raxxla, or one particular theme that may or may not be included in the future storyline of Elite dangerous, Time travel.
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  • @lionofthemorning7997
    @lionofthemorning7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent ideas & speculation, as always!
    It has occurred to me, many times before, that Raxxla may have, or rather, SHOULD have, a connection to WitchSpace.
    Witchspace should be as intrinsic to Elite as the Empyrean is to 40k.
    Frontier really should employ some excellent & talented writers to deal with the Raxxla mystery. & they shouldn’t dispell it, any content should enhance that aspect of the lore.
    They should also tap into communities that have dealt with massive public games to help direct the player interaction with every element of E:D. The Alternate Reality Game companies & those who were involved in producing those experiences would be a prime example of that.
    Always a pleasure, Matt!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah exactly. Hiring someone like dan abnet would really improve the game. Excellent comment

    • @lionofthemorning7997
      @lionofthemorning7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MATTIUS Thanks for the pin!
      WitchSpace is both my favorite part of the lore & the most disappointing part of the game for me.
      We constantly travel through it, yet with the exception of the rare hyperdiction, we never really interact with it.
      I really hope Frontier takes advantage of it in the future as it opens the door for wonder to enter into this, otherwise, hard sci-fi experience.
      It is certainly an excellent game, with endless breadth, but it is missing the deep wonder that is hinted at in the lore.

    • @tyeman3039
      @tyeman3039 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m out in the Dark right now. Over 900,000 yrs traveled with over 20,000 systems encountered. I’ve been hitting all the Canonn Challenge spots across the galaxy. There were two places where gravitational Anomalies we present. One happened going into Witchspace. Not sure if it was a computer artifact but something I’ve never seen before. Instead of going into a classic tunnel a brownish like shield shape appeared just before going into warp. Strange that it happened each time I came back the left.

  • @CmdrMarkus-op4xd
    @CmdrMarkus-op4xd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like… tears in rain. Time to find Raxxla" Another great video..... Great music and fantastic editing.... keep up the amazing work Cmdr o7 ;-)

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rutger Hauer's grestest moment. Thanks Markus.

  • @CMDRGURU951
    @CMDRGURU951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The man, the myth, the legend, brings us yet another masterpiece. Thanks for taking us along on your Journey, Cmdr.

  • @SWIFTO_SCYTHE
    @SWIFTO_SCYTHE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    CALLING IT HERE - Raxxla is like the Warhammer 40k Dark Eldar city of COMMERAGH - a city hidden in the depths of the Webway Tunnels that the Eldar and Dark Eldar use to magically traverse the stars free of Chaos's grasp.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      with the words scratched into every surface "let us in"

  • @CMDRGURU951
    @CMDRGURU951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Such a great feel, such awesome writing an articulation. Proper execution, friend. Moving and shaking the galaxy, a real trait of Dark Wheel members. o7

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cheers guru. Thanks for the inspiration man.

    • @CMDRGURU951
      @CMDRGURU951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoffeeFiend1 I certainly hope so. The progress has been slow, but Im sure something's stirring. I appreciate it, but appear to have hitten a certain creative block. Another brick in the wall I suppose. Cheers.

    • @snikrepak
      @snikrepak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bloodbath-and-beyond have you contributed at all to the community? Or have you sat there mining ltd's?
      Don't bash people for thier ideas.

    • @CMDRGURU951
      @CMDRGURU951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bloodbath-and-beyond I'm gonna put this comment in my hall of fame collection for best insults.....wait, I just looked at my collection, and unfortunately not only has this exact comment been said several times but they were also about 2 years ago. Sorry bud, better luck next time.

  • @soup8249
    @soup8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    ngl i was a little bit gutted when it finished, could watch you for hours bro! Always top tier content!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you enjoyed it. More Raxxla stuff to come.

  • @agoodboy2150
    @agoodboy2150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Far Gods have blessed us on this day!

    • @JailBiden
      @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He found it

  • @JailBiden
    @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like this subject so much its getting out of hand , thank you

    • @JailBiden
      @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I got it , Rho cas is the mother of Andromeda heading there now

  • @kissushoto
    @kissushoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow man, just wow
    I found your series a week ago and I've been binge watching it on my free time and you've given me a whole new view of ED. I bought the game about a month ago because I loved the ships designs but all of this extra lore and theories you've shown me have made me want to go out there and explore as far as I can, I'm just in the process of fully engineering my anaconda so I can visit all these places.
    Great video, great pacing, great script. Keep going, you're gonna get big soon enough!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words, honestly means a lot.

  • @xchandler79
    @xchandler79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thoroughly enjoyed as always, man - but this one I really liked! Keep it up! 👍

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
    @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video as always.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers :)

  • @SledgeFox
    @SledgeFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy this, thank you very much!

  • @cmdrfilthymick4208
    @cmdrfilthymick4208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. You never disappoint

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Mick. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @MacVerick
    @MacVerick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Stay a while and listen” haha niiiiice lil Diablo reference. Excellent video !!!!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Ahh the horodric cuuube" Glad someone got it!

  • @Paradigmfusion
    @Paradigmfusion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats interesting is that Thargoids can come and go from witch space and wander around in there at their leisure, hence why we get Hyperdicted, and the way that Hyperdrives work on current ships (not including fleet carriers and capitol ships) is that they sort of "brute force" their way through witch space and will always target the largest mass in a system (hence why we always come out at a star) however Fleet Carriers and Capitol ships can enter and exit close to where they want to. but those drives arent availble for smaller ships as they are massive.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be amazing if one day a fleet carrier got trapped in witchspace for a player to log in, inside the carrier and realise he can explore witchspace.

    • @Paradigmfusion
      @Paradigmfusion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS Witch Space is a tricky bastard. Back when Hyperdrives first started using witch space, ships would have to spend sometimes weeks in there, now we've never had any control in there at all, so spending weeks in Witch Space with no real timeframe on when you were going to exit was kind of nerve wracking, I mean yeah, there were simulations before jumping, but they were very VERY basic back then. And in the end, the max distance was only around 7LY. But still, if the generation ships had these early drives, they would've probably faired a lot better than many of them did.

  • @dgb253
    @dgb253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I look forward to these.

  • @joshuaandrewvives9676
    @joshuaandrewvives9676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your real awesome dude keep up the great work

  • @cmdrablearry3815
    @cmdrablearry3815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant as always Mattius!
    There are many a huge number of Raxxla theories out there, creating a gold mine of narrative options for FDev as we move forward. And given that FDev have recently introduced the massive storyline through Arthur & Co we can hope to see something Raxxla related in the coming months. Fingers crossed.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Hope they do add some progression in the next update. Thanks for the watch

  • @somedude4805
    @somedude4805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a hell of a theory. Very interesting stuff.

  • @BuzzedL1ghtyear
    @BuzzedL1ghtyear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    frontiers gonna make a story for an ai commander on how he got to raxxla trust me. no ones going to find it before frontier want them too

  • @paulsweet322
    @paulsweet322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some good theories there and with this game you can't dismiss any of them, the truth is probably only known to a very small number of people and may never be known be the rest of us!

  • @CMDRShadow
    @CMDRShadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You, sir, are spoiling us!!

  • @selbie
    @selbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That mountain looks eerily similar to the one in the landscape signal! Amazing work.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It isn't that but yeah it does look strangley similar.

  • @Windrake101
    @Windrake101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Currently. I believe Raxxla is beyond our jump range, not behind a permit. There could be a way to it. Like a special series of stars that make the jump there very difficult, or the Omphalos rift exists outside of Raxxla systems and allows an instant jump to Raxxla, wherever it is.

    • @JailBiden
      @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mythology and constellations ....

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Raxxla is near sol as i picked it up it couldnt be to far as primitive ships could reach it

    • @JailBiden
      @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielstokker the lore goes to show there is unknown tech that may of been out of common knowledge

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JailBiden like hyperdrives that can do 1000 LY or more ? It could explain why the raxcla hunters are looking for it around Saggetarius A bkack hole trying to pinpoint the landscape signal , however that becomes unlikely when a dev said something about the systhem was honked but raxxla was passed , i think its right under our noses or just a few hundred LY outside off the bubble , if somebody already passed it in 2014 its closer then we might think

    • @JailBiden
      @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielstokker who is Andromeda mother ?

  • @far-outman1730
    @far-outman1730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "...GO WATCH SOMETHIN ELSE.." TELL EM!!!

  • @mossaic13
    @mossaic13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get elite status with Dark Wheel, then follow the jump the original crew. Redo the same jump from ______ to earth.

  • @TheAussiB
    @TheAussiB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the content

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you do Austin.

  • @vill824
    @vill824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stay a while an listen. Good one man :)

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙂

  • @theburningsolander3375
    @theburningsolander3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid mate thanks again for another good watch. I also believe that raxxla isn't accessible right, even if it is in game as many claim it to be. Its not something someone is just going to trip over and find. Its Elite's baby, the raxxla mystery. I imagine FD will treat it as such with as much respect and care as they can afford, wrapping it in a series of stories and events when they are ready. Cheers man

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do hope they had some event to the game related to it, come the update. cheers

  • @danielstokker
    @danielstokker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started playing this game 2 weeks ago heard about elite dangerous maybe 2 years ago didnt know any of the previous games i was born in 1984 tho lol , this raxxla myth is very very interesting to me the story off elite is fantastic as im getting to know it piece by piece its way more then just a "space truck simulator" as some people call it the imagination of something bigger and meaningfull and mysterious keeps people going , its easy to give up the grind and just stop playing as i heard others also talk this and the story of commander jameson the thargoids and everything i love it this is why i know i cant get bored on this game with these stories rolling in the back of my mind awesome game great story ... i hope one day we really do find a way to travel FTL maybe witchspace is real maybe its the space filled by dark matter things that are moving faster then light by nature if the universe can exspand beyond the speed of light i think traveling at that speed should be possible with the right knowledge ... any fans here of the alcubierre drive ?? A real warpdrive preposed by a french professor in 1997 that NASA was very very curious about to the point they are still investigating this

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is one of reasons i wanted to make a youtube channel on Elite dangerous, the people claiming it has no story. Yes it could do with being less hidden but sure the game has a sometimes amazing story narrative. Hope you enjoy the game anyway in the future, welcome to one of the most positive game communities in history.

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS i just got my earth permit i cried 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome. Make sure you visit all the tourist beacons.

  • @SilverHandTCG
    @SilverHandTCG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just returned to Elite, your videos are amazing! I hope you return soon!

  • @arxtryannus1837
    @arxtryannus1837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are offended by speculation, monologues, people discussing Raxxla, or The Dark Wheel, it's probably time to have a really good hard look at your life. Loving the videos sir. Keep up the great work.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'll be surprised

  • @sigurdrr1015
    @sigurdrr1015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was looking for a kick ass bed time story. Found it right on time !

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HAHA Glad you enjoyed it :)

    • @sigurdrr1015
      @sigurdrr1015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS extremly my good sir.

  • @acerba
    @acerba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Similarly to a vase, the most useful thing about a spoked wheel is the voids, which are strongly paralleled with the wheel structure of the galaxy's arms.
    Witch space is itself a void within the void.
    So, perhaps Raxxla is not a proper place but rather a nonplace of noneuclidian immaterial nonreality?
    I don't think it's a coincidence that Carcosa, a name strongly associated with cosmic horror, is a stone's throw from Colonia.

    • @acerba
      @acerba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Along the shore the cloud waves break,
      The twin suns sink behind the lake,
      The shadows lengthen
      In Carcosa.
      Strange is the night where black stars rise,
      And strange moons circle through the skies,
      But stranger still is
      Lost Carcosa.
      Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
      Where flap the tatters of the King,
      Must die unheard in
      Dim Carcosa.
      Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
      Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
      Shall dry and die in
      Lost Carcosa.
      -"Cassilda's Song" in The King in Yellow Act 1, Scene 2

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you a thousand times for Showing me this. I wasn't aware of it until now.

  • @platypusrex2287
    @platypusrex2287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    o7. See you in the next loop....

  • @darthhunter69
    @darthhunter69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This blew my mind

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching

  • @leesmith1898
    @leesmith1898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, I'm not new to elite, but am becoming interested in the Raxxla myth.
    You mentioned time travel in your video with reference to Jason Ryder. How did you make that connection?
    Very interesting video's by the way, keep up the good work.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time travel is mentioned in the novel "The dark wheel" I refer top the section where they mention time travel wondering how they know about the time travelling malfunction. Surely if someone had travelled through time no mention of them would be noted other than that the pilot had disappeared.

  • @andywelch4251
    @andywelch4251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, and awesome theory. So where does Black Flight fit in? Are the Men In Black of the 'club'?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Black Flight are basically a covert ops group run by the feds on behalf of the club. Basically The people who attacked the Ryder ship in the dark wheel novel.

  • @Worldopain
    @Worldopain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been thinking that Raxxla is tied to witchspace. Could the key be finding an old ship that can go into witchspace? Maybe one of the old generation ships is still going out there somewhere..

  • @vieuxhibou1756
    @vieuxhibou1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it makes your mouth water all that il faut continuer 😉

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      En avant, tourner la roue.

  • @DaveSkillzGaming
    @DaveSkillzGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats worse than Elite's space madness.... TH-cam adverts every couple of minutes at completely random times during a video

  • @wearecoterminous
    @wearecoterminous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't think I didn't catch that Diablo reference, you cheeky boi.
    I have always felt that raxxla needs to be fairly close to Sol because of how old the legends are. We could only go so far back then ya know?
    Do you think the Mars artifact has anything to do with raxxla?
    I wonder if the powers that be see these kinds of videos sometimes.
    Sorry for spamming all your videos lol
    o7

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly comment as much as you want it helps the channel get suggested to more people. In regards to the mars artefact I think that it is possibly either some kind of guardian artefact or something else non thargoid related. I haven't made my mind up yet.

  • @anilsabahoglu9930
    @anilsabahoglu9930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why your ship named after Piri Reis?

  • @austindavies6371
    @austindavies6371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbs up after the 1st sentance!!!
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  • @mfdrew5768
    @mfdrew5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait a min didnt a dev confirm that someones been in the system where raxxlas located?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a myth. From a DJTruthsayer livestream. It has been debunked.

    • @mfdrew5768
      @mfdrew5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS damn that is a bummer. Since there's alot less explored systems then there are unexplored I hoped it would have expedited the search.

  • @TheLartomar
    @TheLartomar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it seems from the intro that i am the only one considering the Ys. Can any one help me out with this?

  • @Obi-Wan81
    @Obi-Wan81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree R Kid... It's not in the game. Frontier have still not turned on the magic switch. This is the closest we've come to the location of the dark wheel I believe : -
    th-cam.com/video/k1jzYld9uHg/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo
    Whatever Raxxla is - it will have to be something so mind blowing, that anything else, will just be a huge letdown for a large portion of Elite's player base. This is WHY Frontier have not made it available in the game...

  • @pigboiii
    @pigboiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Odysey has been released now... Where is Raxxla Fdev?

  • @jigsawalwayswins8636
    @jigsawalwayswins8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to get lost in witch space

  • @walulu6531
    @walulu6531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video currently has 4 downvotes. Who are the other three besides Braben?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cannon Research members.

  • @cobaltblue1975
    @cobaltblue1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't Frontier say at one point that it is in the game and that players have passed through the system?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is a myth. They have said it is in the game game but have never said it is accessible.

    • @cobaltblue1975
      @cobaltblue1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MATTIUS Ahhh, good to know. So the passing through the system thing was just wishful rumor.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The honk rumour came from someone claiming that they had heard one of the games senior devs say that Raxxla had been honked but they didn't realise it was there. It was debunked.

    • @Obi-Wan81
      @Obi-Wan81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope - Chinese whispers on the Elite grape vine. Never confirmed. The only CONFIRMED things we have about Raxxla is what's in the Codex in the game about the DW, and what Michael Brooks confirmed to DJ Truthsayer in the live interview. That "it's in the Milky Way, but it's a journey that every commander has to go on themselves", which is the most vague thing I've ever heard...

    • @cobaltblue1975
      @cobaltblue1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Obi-Wan81 "it's in the Milky Way, but it's a journey that every commander has to go on themselves"
      Intriguing, sounds to me like every one researching this should really be making all attempts in solo mode.

  • @danlavirre
    @danlavirre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    to the Cmdr Asking for the system i was refearing early...Lyncis Sector AV-Y c8...... as mentioned it may be just a bug but the planet/moon or something has an orbit going through a gas giant it does not move also it does not show itself in the map niether in the contacts/nav tab....not that far of the bubble also 3 fc there including mine the Samael's Revenge

    • @CMDRGURU951
      @CMDRGURU951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely gonna give that a visit. Thanks.

    • @danlavirre
      @danlavirre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CMDRGURU951 checked it again today the weird orbit is there is the last gas giant c3 i think it is the black af gas giant o7

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a glitch i saw one in another systhem aswell

    • @danlavirre
      @danlavirre 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielstokker ahhh ok thanks for the Info Cmdr o7... Never came across with such a glich before

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danlavirre i play this for a week seen 2 already lol

  • @soloshooter5806
    @soloshooter5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raxla isn't real....i asked a flat earth expert, and he said so. Awesome work commander 07.

  • @IronHead42
    @IronHead42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hypothesis. Just saying... 😉😝

  • @pregister
    @pregister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stay a while, and listen. :)

  • @thegnome87
    @thegnome87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disliked for lying about the flatness of the Earth

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whist in space. Gotcha 😉