RAXXLA THEORIES : The (possible) Thargoid connection
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2020
- In this episode of Raxxla theories i will take a look at the race known as the Thargoids and their POSSIBLE connection to the Raxxla myth. I will be exploring my thoughts on the Thargoid's motives and i will take a look at some out of game content from Steven Eisler that include the topic of Raxxla, the Oisir Raxxla and the Dark Wheel.
This is a discussion about these topics and as such they are not to be taken as confirmed canon lore.
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That although all confirmed lore researched to make these videos has been sourced from connected pieces of information such as gal-news articles, in game lore entries, wiki articles and forum posts some information mentioned is speculative. Extra material "outside" of Elite dangerous such as Robert Holdstock, wiki fandom, previous Elite games, forum speculation is mentioned as non canonical and is used to form opinion and speculation to future Elite dangerous storyline events. As such speculative sections to these videos are not to be regarded as confirmed lore and merely personal opinion. - เกม
15:30 "It's your sandbox - go build your castle"
SIR - im gonna buy the game now.
The real Raxxla are the theories we made along the way.
Exactly. Thanks for the watch
Alrighty Richard lol
I'm not gonna lie, typically I'm always for the giant reveal being something intangible like that, but for some reason I *_really_* fucking *_NEED_* Raxxla to be a physical ... whatever it is. No matter what, the human mind is so powerful, that there isn't anything it could EVER be that would satisfy any of us. But that doesn't mean I'd EVER LET IT GO. Ahahaha.
Whether or not frontier have any plans for raxxla is another question entirely, and to be honest after recent events I even doubt that they have the vision to implement something as big as a conclusion to the raxxla mystery.
Great stuff r kid... If I ever find the Dark Wheel, I'll be shouting you up in game to come along with me!
Sound larrrr
I only started playing a few weeks ago and don't know much about the lore but your videos have really inspired me to take more interest in the games story rather than just aimless exploration. 👌
Start with the codex entries on individuals within the game. There is hidden meanings in there somewhere.
Superb content mate. Can't fathom why this channel is not No1 in ED lore and such. You will get there. Keep it coming.
Thank you. Just gotta keep going.
Massively underrated channel. Keep the content coming CMDR 👍🏻
Thanks. Will do o7
This by far is your best theory or theories. I have been enjoying your stories now for a bit, they have always been very interesting but this one make a lot more sense . Thanks for taking the time to do them.
Cheers man. Means a lot. More next year for raxxla, but still more elite theory and galnet theory.
Could the hologram of the what is believed to be stars of a galaxy maybe be a witchspace map of the milkyway.
Excellent idea. Like a map on tracing paper layered above the map of normal space.
@@MATTIUS I have pondered on the idea that raxxla is a gateway, with a gateway you have an entrance and and exit depending on what end you star at. Why have only 2? there maybe more, sort of like the transwarp highways the borg made in ST franchise.
Is the door/gateway closed unless you have the key or omphalos to open it? Like the doors on the thargoid ruins that only open when certain items are in your possession.
I found it peculiar that there was a passable area contained within the col 70 sector.
I have been searching the Col 70 sector as it seems peculiar as to why we have a spherical locked area, that has passable space within it. One of the enclaves within col 70 is spherical in shape and has a strange concentration of stars in the middle that has a black hole at one end.
I am getting a bit tin foil hat here but I was looking at the dense cluster and wondering is that significant does it point at something?
Why go to the bother of making this area somewhere we can enter?
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These mysteries keep me playing elite.
it would pay credence to why the thargoids have an affinity within witchspace. As it is there is a confirmed presence of another extra galactic realm within elite dangerous called witchsapace. Excellent man.
An overlay. Interesting.
I have just started getting into raxxla hunting and your videos are so thought provoking, keep up the good work :)
Glad you enjoyed it.
That makes two Elite things I'm looking forward to for next year now. Have really enjoyed listening to your Raxxla lore stories. o7 Commander.
o7 paul. More galnet and elite theory to come though. Stay tuned for future collabs aswell
@@MATTIUS you had me at o7, 🤣
@@paulsweet322 just look after those wingman okay 😉
excellent stuff as usual Mattius. Cant wait for more on Raxxla. Been out in the rift almost 2yrs scanning, mapping my way close to 30 billion in data. I dont plan on returning anytime soon.
Yeah there are some pretty weird things out there. Keep up the good work lee
I'd be happy to bring a carrier out to you if you need anything as that is a hell of effort
I've got my own out here, I returned to bubble to pick one up when they released but thanks
@@leewalton7403 no videos up?
I'm absolutely enraptured in this. Also I never saw the Thargoids as celestial in till now, and realizing that their design is somewhat angelic, like many wings around a central 'wheel', something I've seen in Shin Megami Tensei.
Very stoked right now. Also, you're video work is insanely good. I wish the game looked this good while I played XD
Either way, cannon or not. The Thargoids are deliberately mysterious and I can't wait for more.
They've been world building for a long time, I have pretty high hopes that there is something magical in store.
Yeah me too. I hope im right in thinking they are going to knock it out of the park. Thanks for the compliments.
I feel that they will hold true to being themselves. Elite has been around for such a long time. These guys and gals exist in a different time scale than anyone else. They don't deal in this months top game that won't be played anymore next year. Small world, small arena, fast paced combat. Exciting? Yes. Short-lived? Yes.
Not Elite. They have been slowly, but constantly, building a universe in which to live. They allow us to exist in their universe as they create. This is a piece for your bookshelf. To be picked up and revisited over many years. I love it. And you capture it. Good work. Safe flying o7
@@malignusrex3968 Beautifully put
SO KEEN FOR ODYSSEY
100%
I've always suspected Raxxla is a gate to another galaxy, but have never really dug into the Raxxla and Thargpid mysteries.
It is a fascinating thing to discuss. One of the highlights of the games lore.
Superb quote at the end. A castle is what I intent to build as I play.
HaHaHa! @4:50 I laugh, but I don't think your theories are that outlandish. I also think there is some connection with the recent events in the galaxy. Just look at those involved, and their relationships, such as Liz Ryder's heritage. And I for one believe that there is more to this. The events as of late feel like a distraction, an act of subterfuge, designed to keep our focus off of the real events going on behind the curtain. But maybe I am biased, due to my fondness for tin foil!
Thank you for sharing this with us, Commander. o7
Yeah i think there is something no doubt going on with the Empires problem with terrorist thargoid bombs but i don't think it is as simple as the Thargoids being an invading army for us to destroy. Cheers for the support over the months Matt, honestly mate I've seen you plugging my videos on different things and i cant thank you enough.
the Raxxla was the friends we made along the way
That is rather disappointing :( I rly wish it to be like in the book.
@@yvone2919 my honest thought, or perhaps wish, is that it will be and we will find it after oddesy drops
Thats my thoughts. They are not going to forget about how much pull the subject has for new fans. My point on the video was it is more than just an end point (a planet to scan) but a whole series of stories that concludes at an end point. It's a world building exercise
@@MATTIUS Exactly! Thats one thing that makes this game special. Between the mystery and the players actually driving the narrative it just creates some truely unqiue.
David Gate I really hope. Many of us have been looking for it since the beginning of the game.
Incredible work cmdr
Fantastic Elite videos you make. Lot's of great information. I do have one question, you mentioned thargoids being sighted as far as the conflux and cone nebula. Was wondering what your source is regarding this. Can't seem to locate any info on the thargoids being seen this far out. Thanks
Watch my video on the Conflux. There is mention of them in the logs
They'll also happily nom up imperial slaves if offered
"it's your sandbox" .. so true! o7
So... i really feel like Witch Space is not some distant place, but rather its layered over/through the milky way. That the Thargoid map isnt one of Andromeda, but of the Milky Ways local Witch Space. The big thing my brain attaches to here is the yellow/orange and white neutron star looking things we pass in witch space. They seem to share the colors of the "stars" on the thargoid map. You would think a star map would show red dwarfs and so on... but this map is only 2 colors. Same as those odd star things we pass in witch space, you never see a red one.
Yeah i think in regards to witch space this is exactly what it is, like sub-space. To be fair think you argue a compelling point. I have seen those green stars in witchspace quite a bit but only in certain areas. Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
Great vid. 07. Subscribed. XD
Welcome to the channel
This is maybe a cop out idea, but perhaps the thargoids see occupied escape pods as something like a disembodied cockpit? Perhaps their ships' cores can detach, so they think a similar thing happened to the pods? Though, they should have better friend or foe recognition to realize they aren't the same.
"No thargoids have started to attack systems" They are currently following a ship on its way to Sol
This was made a while ago.
My current theory is Raxxla is a criminal freeloading organization that supplies npc pirates with good ships. Thus finding it is the greatest police operation in the whole galaxy.
Have you ever noticed some of the mission givers look like there 1/2 alien looking. Eyes are bugged out and looked deformed
Yeah Jacques is basically a cyborg and Rafe zetter is human(IOD) strangely enough, according to the dark wheel novel.
I wonder what the thargoids look like on foot
Do you think there is anything lore wise to the fact you can only be hyperdicted if you've ever picked up a thargoid sensor? If you have never picked one up you'll never be intercepted in hyperspace by them. However if you grab one you start getting pulled out.
Do you think it's just a coding trigger or is there actually something lore wise going on?
Love the content keep it up.
I think there is BGS going on with the thargoids yeah. That's what's weird about the thargoids, they dont seem to attack unless provoked in one way or another and even then they seem to have some level of restraint. Thanks for the support man. Good things coming soon beginning with a Y.
@@MATTIUS I am curious if perhaps, from a lore perspective, picking up the sensor somehow interacts with your ships navigation system and makes you forever flagged to the Thargoids as someone of interest. Obviously you have to forgive that you can grab it in an SRV or switch ships and still be snatched out of space, but curious if that's the lore reference to why it's the Sensors/probes you pick up that make them suddenly know to grab you.
Looking forward to your next work! I always love listening to your videos.
@@MinistryOfMagic_DoM there could be some subspace communications going on with the probes, maybe they scan you as a person and flag your genetic make up for thargoid investigation and possible destruction. After all they are masters of both sub/witch space and biology.
@@MATTIUS oooh I like that. They aren't flagging the ship, they are flagging the commander! That is interesting and makes sense from a lore and coding perspective. Good thinking.
Side note: that video clip of the thargoid war at the end of your video: where is it from? I'd like to watch that.
@@MinistryOfMagic_DoM it's on the elite dangerous official youtube channel, under the trailers section.
7:10 there’s an error: Thargoid don’t take all escape pods... only occupied escape pods. Something I want to know is if I meet a thargoid trying to collect an occupied escape pod but find a way to snatch it before they do; will they attack for it? Are they looking to collect them even though they have no serious value to them. Or are occupied escape pods some high value commodity. Along with this, say there is Occupied escape pod and thargoid tech... what do they go to collect first.
Yeah should of mentioned occupied escape pods. Apologies. If you drop into a NNHS and there is a Thargoid probe or sensor as far as im aware they always go for that one first, my experience is that i have to bolt for the Probes before they tractor them. In terms of escape pods they scan all items in a NNHS. if they find an occupied escape pod they will pull it in, but it is a methodical process were they scan the items randomly. If you snag one before and run they will leave you as i guess they dont know there is a pilot onboard the item you have claimed.
It's all fun and games until the goids unlock their engineers
#nerfNOW
Is it the landscape signal? Im sorry Im not sure what you said
Yeah Landscape signal. Watch my video "the signal" in Raxxla theories. There is a good explanation to what i think it is. Important to remember these videos contain different and often conflicting theories, they are not necessarily connected to one another.
Great video ,loved the tin foil lol.
Cheers John. Glad you enjoyed it.
What if in the odyssey update there is a special new hyperdiction from a thargoid interceptor that has them launching a canopy popping drone that abducts you from your chair and you have to escape the alien ship
Been in my thoughts for years haha. That one day out in the black, you hear the door open behind you and a Thargoid appendage slide over your face as you reach for your sidearm.
@@MATTIUS well considering they are huge insectoids who require astronomically low temperatures to survive i would doubt they would go into our ships
I know we can't follow thargoids through there own witchspace portals or scan their wakes, but has anyone ever thought of attaching a tracking dart to their hull/exoskeleton? I think that would be a viable method of tracking, if it works. I could see that as a hard point attachment too. Has anyone made a sensor capable of transmitting from those distances?
The only system I know of in the game that is like this is the recon limpet. I dont know whether anyone has tried but my guess is that it has been tried bit with little success. Hopefully there will be stuff in the game like this come the update, the idea is really good.
They make take that as an attack. I don't know how the tracker works but do they still work if you are dead?
@@johnw30 Yes, they would very likely find that action hostile, though it's not impossible to run away from a thargoid interceptor. I've succeeded in outrunning a cyclops varient, but you'd need a very quick ship to escape from all the others as they (to my knowledge) are faster.
@@MATTIUS Thanks, to continue the thought: I reckon that the sensor would have to be outfitted with something that uses witchspace as a medium for the signal to travel (Like subspace in StarTrek) otherwise, if the signal is radio moving at lightspeed, it would take far to long.
@@astroseia3380 hell yeah subspace probes haha. I love it. Give me a oberth type large exploration vessel aswell please fdev haha
Dope
You forgot to include the thargoid barnacles and relics @ 1:40
The story is going to 2022 as per the live stream
I Do apologise. Litte error.
@@MATTIUS it's OK been a long year for everyone 👍
This kind of content is what makes me avoid exploring close to nebulas.
"The writers got bored of the story" AKA someone is refusing to do their job and write a satisfying story for the player base that is really interrested in it... Yeah I find that hard to believe... It could be but it be hella lame
You know the thargoids ARE the rogue Guardian AI that's been self evolving for over a million years don't you?
They simply responding to
Humans using guardian tech and looking for the source.
Wrong, thargoids attacked the Guardians before the guardians started to make their ai. The Thargoids attacking was the prime reason the guardians made their ai.
Still playing lad?
Fudge this game man!!!! Just when I think I'm over this shit someone puts out a video and I'm right back in .......... love this stupid game.
(Braben whispers out of the darkness) "PLAAAAYYYYYY THE GAAAAAMMMEEEEEEEE
wait what? they take escape pods? you said people were taking meta alloys to them... but did anyone take them some escape pods? Alright, hear me out on this... we get all those cultists that worship the thargoids and we put them in some escape pods... lol...
Yes they have extensively. It seems the Interceptor's have a taste for them.
Ouch. The intro hasn't aged well. :(
I love your videos, I really do, but please can we get it clear that its not a 'fargoid' and please, please please pronounce the Th's and the F's correctly!!!!!!!!! Its not a Thucking Fargoid!