ELITE DANGEROUS THEORY. : The survivors of the Hesperus.

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  • In this episode of the Elite dangerous theories i will be taking a look at the recently found Proteus ship, which was crewed by the survivors of the Hesperus megaship. I will be having a look at the logs at this site and speculating on where FDev could be going with the story of this.
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  • @kirr5304
    @kirr5304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The more im learn about elite - more darker its become.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both update wise and Lore wise.

  • @fossiliitv824
    @fossiliitv824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    On that little planet there is proof of 3 civilizations...... Awsome!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching

    • @fossiliitv824
      @fossiliitv824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MATTIUS I like your videos on Ed and as a cmdr I'm interested in your point of views

    • @steingrimurolikristjansson112
      @steingrimurolikristjansson112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hi, we know about the thargoids,guardians, who are the third civilization

    • @fossiliitv824
      @fossiliitv824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@steingrimurolikristjansson112.... Us.......

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for giving me your feedback! Glad you like the content. What are your thoughts on this event?

  • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
    @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is the best lunch time show ever. You do such an amazing job making the lore come to life.

    • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
      @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A note: this kinda makes me lean away from Salvation being a Guardian AI.
      As for your theory about the Guardian v Thargoid significance, I think you're right. The guardian tech uses that blue energy glow that we see from the objects on the pillars. You even need one of those to activate them to get the guardian blueprint as well. It's likely intended to be a power source for a weapon but needs to be directed and controlled to be usable against the Thargoids.

  • @ssgpentland8241
    @ssgpentland8241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was looking for the Hesperus and am currently looking for another generation ship. I will resume the Hesperus search thanks to this. Cheers

  • @ridgerunner_21
    @ridgerunner_21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn it I just went home from this section of space last night after giving up on the search! Now I'm going to be heading back out there. My heart's racing I can't wait until I get off work tonight

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @fossiliitv824
    @fossiliitv824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It would be nice if on Odyssey we could enter all the abandoned sites and ships and see all those corpses

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES haha

    • @Magmadon
      @Magmadon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was incredibly disappointed to find out I couldn't enter. We get on foot content, only to then not get on foot content.

    • @fossiliitv824
      @fossiliitv824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Magmadon maybe it s a working progress....... If only frontier guys could hear us

    • @williamread5652
      @williamread5652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Magmadon it’s so Horizons only players are able to take part……seems kind of decent….don’t you think?

    • @Magmadon
      @Magmadon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@williamread5652 While I agree it seems kind of decent, I still think it's a shame. Most if not all of the story/lore comes from beacons outside of the ship/settlement so there's no real need to enter them, but it still feels weird to only ever experience parts of this amazing lore from the outside. I honestly thought Odyssey would give us the chance to see laboratories and lore locations from the inside.

  • @bilbogavins8597
    @bilbogavins8597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always good to see your videos in my feed.
    Also, the voicing you did while reading that log was actually really good. You've got natural talent for voice acting.
    From what we know currently, I feel like Salvation being a Guardian is the most plausible outcome. And it could be explained by revealing the Guardians as extinct not through death of the entire species, but through becoming so advanced as a species that they leave the Universe entirely and are postbiological. A Kardashev rating of such a species would be 4, or maybe even 5.
    They could see something in humanity that could warrant us being of value to the Guardians. Hence Salvation's attempts at helping us and, in his own words, preventing the extinction of humanity.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thought it was a bit cheesy myself haha. I think that at least it would be plausible to suggest that a certain portion of the Guardian race has survived via implementation into the Monolith network. They mention in the Ram Tah logs that towards the end of the Apparent extinction, that those who embraced the new technology, had the ability to project their consciousness into robotic technology.

    • @bilbogavins8597
      @bilbogavins8597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MATTIUS Agreed. But that begs the question regarding where the AI went. It seems most logical that it would leave the galaxy and either destroy itself or somehow get destroyed. Or maybe the Thargoids destroyed it.

    • @williamread5652
      @williamread5652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bilbogavins8597 I can’t see the logic in that…….

    • @bilbogavins8597
      @bilbogavins8597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamread5652 Well it could start asking itself existential questions and have a crisis, prompting it to destroy itself.
      But then again it could also be unphased by inherent meaninglessness of existence and be destroyed by something else at some point. It has been millions of years after all.
      It is pretty unlikely that an entire society's worth of AIs all have existential crises all at once. The idea that they were destroyed by an external factor is a lot more plausible. Probably the Thargoids or something.

  • @darthronin2158
    @darthronin2158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game and community needs you now more than ever Cmdr! o7

  • @jeremy7383
    @jeremy7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just binged so many of you videos. Glad there is a new one. Glad it's Elite. Great work.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the watches!

  • @timesthree5757
    @timesthree5757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What if Banard's Loop is really the location of the Guardian homeworld. And that salvation are survivor Gaurdians trying not to reveal who they are or were they are for fear of the AI.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Interesting stuff! Salvation is definitely a mysterious character.

    • @skywarren4470
      @skywarren4470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MATTIUS Or Salvation could be the AI?

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS A Gaurdian site next to the loop. This seems more a defensive location than offensive. Like an early warning/look out.

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skywarren4470 One problem an AI that wiped out a sentient race would not have sympathy for another. Especially one as violent as humans.

    • @peoplez129
      @peoplez129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say that Salvation could be one of three things: An ancient Guardian AI that has tapped into human communications networks, or the last living Guardian, or a member of the Dark Wheel. In any case, it's clear that Salvation has access to more information than a normal human could, either by being something from the past, or being related to the Dark Wheel people who were sent back in time. The Dark Wheel's purpose seems to be trying to unravel a mystery, and in the first timeline before they were sent back, these locations were possibly never discovered.

  • @edt6290
    @edt6290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done CMDR. Way cool. o7

  • @danielsegewitz6956
    @danielsegewitz6956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great voice acting Mattius! Thanks for your thoughts and insights on this mystery!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Somewhat hate it myself but i thought id give it a go myself :)

  • @WarriorTech_FTW
    @WarriorTech_FTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing as this is next to the Col70 sector, we might see more of the guardian sites surrounded by dead goids or maybe the opposite, goid structures next to crashed guardian drones that we’ve heard mention of in the codex. Who knows, but I sure as hell would like to

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yean and MAYBE (Please FDev) the COL70 permit.

  • @mattsmechanicalssi5833
    @mattsmechanicalssi5833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exemplary work as always, Commander! This is the kind of stuff that keeps me going in Elite. I am currently out there at the Proteus. I did a run through of the Guardian structure to get a vessel blueprint. Luckily I had a few keys on my FC already. Checked out the ruins and the crashed Thargoid ships as well. Gonna scout the nearby systems later today, and see if I can't find some Brain Trees. They should exist within 80Ly of the Guardian Structure.
    o7

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome thanks for the watch Matt. Had a little look at the guardian sites myself.

  • @timjerrom7173
    @timjerrom7173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well narrated and excellent work thank you Commander.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @timjerrom7173
      @timjerrom7173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS well you have a new subscriber now 😁

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :) Thanks!

  • @chillichap8848
    @chillichap8848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are many questions to be raised with this excellent piece. Who were here first, Guardians or Thargoids?
    Did the Thargoids stamp this place out due to their expansion or was it the other way around?
    Not having been there yet, is this Guardian site offering new technology?
    I personally think that this is some kind of Guardian outpost or settlement that was discovered during the war and as such neutralised, but without destroying the technology.
    I’m also starting to think that Sanctuary is a collective or group as opposed to a single person. Sanctuary have recognised a threat to humanity and are stepping in to support us in a forthcoming conflict. o7 CMDR

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching. Glad you like the video. I like the ideas you have with Salvation being a Group!

  • @williamread5652
    @williamread5652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely brilliant! 🤩

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks William. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @aavvv_
    @aavvv_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video and storytelling.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :)

  • @cmdrpanditt
    @cmdrpanditt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good narration. Keep it up!!

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ian.

  • @solidstate2b
    @solidstate2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for such good voice acting.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching. Glad you liked the video.

  • @paulsweet322
    @paulsweet322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was another great video, really enjoyable. Leaving us again with more questions than answers. These rabbit holes seem to be leading deeper into god knows where. The body that was found, who found out originally about the location of the Guardian site and so on. Hopefully we'll get some answers along the way.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Paul. Hope things a good with you guys.

    • @paulsweet322
      @paulsweet322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS both doing well thanks, still a journey but going in the right direction.

  • @sirtrogdor9001
    @sirtrogdor9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hopefully you make a return. Some things going on in Elite that could use your touch. I hope all is well. o7.

  • @SWIFTO_SCYTHE
    @SWIFTO_SCYTHE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always I knew it had something to do with the guardians I want the guardians to bein Odyssey. t I want to see the main artificial intelligence be a huge city ship or death star planet computer

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah like a Giant Guardian Arkship

  • @jinzo457
    @jinzo457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Angry Admiral noises.*

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comments of Stacy, Admiral?

    • @jinzo457
      @jinzo457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS "Due to the sensitive nature of the Admiral's current assignment, the exact nature of his dealings with Ms. Lovelace cannot be disclosed at this time.
      However the public can rest assured that it is a matter of Federation security and is strictly a professional relationship.
      You can totally trust us, because we're the government and we'd never lie to you." - The Government.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahaahah Brilliant

  • @Ponial
    @Ponial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, if only I had some popcorn left after that euro match.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one?

    • @Ponial
      @Ponial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS Spain vs Sweden, was a good one

  • @HudyHubaHa
    @HudyHubaHa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to ask: Where's that demon core now?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly Gamma Velorum.

  • @jacobite1017
    @jacobite1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My tin foil theory is the guardians split into two and the thargoids are the bio half, we can see from their ships that they are bio in nature. It always bothered me that the guardians were supposed to have wiped themselves out entirely when the milky way for one is so large. We have found human remains but as far as we know no guardian/thargoid. Could it be that the thargoid site was a satellite station now abandoned ? The guardian sites also have no obvious signs of life, there does however seem to be one doorway that is closed on their temple sites. Fantastic work commander mattius 07.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have found Live Thargoids before, as in there original form, INRA logs mention this. Not sure about Guardian Remains, don't think we have. Thank you for watching!

    • @jacobite1017
      @jacobite1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MATTIUS True, though that could still fit with my theory that we found live guardian:)

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacobite1017 To have the last surviving member of the Guardian race as some part of a major story would be amazing.

    • @jacobite1017
      @jacobite1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MATTIUS I can go one better, Hell on the milky way.

    • @jacobite1017
      @jacobite1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or the remake enemy mine

  • @followthewolves1991
    @followthewolves1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm wondering if the thargoids are invading human space becuase they are running from something(a re-emergence of the Guardians, their AI or maybe something entirely different). Perhaps whomever Salvation is, knows what this threat is and is helping humanity find technology that will save them in the coming conflict with whatever is out there.

  • @JailBiden
    @JailBiden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope all is well 🙏

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm fine. Don't worry, I'm still watching

  • @SoulImageProductions
    @SoulImageProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can Salvation be like Jaques? A cyborg perhaps?

    • @Solnoric
      @Solnoric 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An AI created by the club, that has escaped and gone rogue? I mean given the club's entire MO... It's dead on theme.

    • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
      @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Solnoric I've been wondering if it had a connection to The Club as well. They absolutely canonically exist in the game so there is no question there. It seems like it could be them wanting to get their hands on the tech.
      On the flip side, could it be The Dark Wheel reaching out? They've recently been on the move via Turning the Wheel and when we first started doing that the CMs got a smirk on their face during the live stream then all this kicked off. Could be connected, though highly unlikely, to the expansion of TDW all over the bubble they are now ready to take a fight to The Club once again. Might need to call up the OG Children of Raxxla as well. It won't be related to the faction in game as that is our player faction, but in lore they also exist as NPCs and an off shoot of TDW.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plausible. There are other augmented humans in the lore as well.

  • @Solnoric
    @Solnoric 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jesus people move goddamned fast.

    • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
      @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was a massive effort by folks. A ton of it came from non Canonn members this time as well which leans away from the standard accusations of data mining as well. Though certainly some of it was mined up without doubt as it always is. The very first commander to find the Hesperus didn't report it to anyone at all and found it via data mining.

    • @williamread5652
      @williamread5652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MinistryOfMagic_DoM kind of cheating, no? Not my ideal progression method….brute forcing is ok, as it can involve large swathes of the ED community, which is always good. But a decent all round brain teaser is always the best!

  • @steingrimurolikristjansson112
    @steingrimurolikristjansson112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey man

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Working on new content currently. Expect new content around the end of September, if all goes well.

    • @steingrimurolikristjansson112
      @steingrimurolikristjansson112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@MATTIUS hey man

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will do!

  • @tbgelectr0
    @tbgelectr0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great voice acting..

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @NinjaZXRR
    @NinjaZXRR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t get to the proteus Anaconda, I have a 57LY Krait Phantom and can’t reach the star. It kinda sucks do you need a Fleet carrier to get there?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lock on to a system called Lam01 Orionis first. Then navigate to the location from there. Its a bit tricky guiding your craft using autopilot from the bubble.

    • @NinjaZXRR
      @NinjaZXRR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS thats great thanks!

  • @MrErikm
    @MrErikm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What system was that in , the three on one?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trapezium Sector YU-X C1-2 on planet 1 a

    • @MrErikm
      @MrErikm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS awesome thanks 🙏

    • @MrErikm
      @MrErikm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS did you see that galnet did a piece on this system

  • @acidpandagames1062
    @acidpandagames1062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of the song he used

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one?

  • @crowsnest8295
    @crowsnest8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salvation is darkwheel?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a possibility.

  • @tacos_tequila
    @tacos_tequila 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hesperous was slower than light, but the crew show up in an Anaconda?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hesperus wasn't Sub-light. It had a Quirium Drive which would of eventually got them to SAG A

  • @korzendorferzackary1
    @korzendorferzackary1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t find the cords for the location anyone here help a commander here and give the location

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google the sites on the video. Cannon will have a page about it.

  • @davegreenwood2643
    @davegreenwood2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What or who creates a weapon that reacts to ‘biological’ life. The Gaurdian AI advanced.

    • @NinjaZXRR
      @NinjaZXRR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminds me of the Reapers AI from Mass Effect

  • @TheXelum
    @TheXelum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

  • @JailBiden
    @JailBiden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I brought a new roll of tin foil mate . Cygnus is the door to the afterlife ...a journey we all must take . Constellation has a northern cross . It is mentioned in treasure planet. I'm at cygnus x-3 now and its a dud so far , further exploration is undergoing.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome :)

  • @jinzo457
    @jinzo457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you considered putting together a discord for your fans? Would love to share conspiracy theories, screenshots, and memes with you and all the other tin-foil hat lads.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I literally have so little time, making these videos, IRL and some gaming. I have considered setting up a discord but i would need to invest the time into it all, as i know very little about setting one up. Welcome to the channel by the way. You will find the members videos on the playlist at the bottom of the homepage of the channel.

    • @jinzo457
      @jinzo457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MATTIUS Thanks! I'm happy to support my favorite content creators. I'll definitely check those videos out!
      As for the discord, I'm not super well versed in the art, but I'll do a bit of research and get back to you if you're that interested.

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any help on this would be massively appreciated mate :)

    • @jinzo457
      @jinzo457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MATTIUS Sure! My wife and I run a guild on WoW and it turns out she's sort of a pro at working Discord. How should I get in touch with you?

    • @MATTIUS
      @MATTIUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mattius#4408 (discord tag)

  • @brentkeller3826
    @brentkeller3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salvation is an AI.

    • @Solnoric
      @Solnoric 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been of the opinion that salvation is tied to the club, either as a rogue former member or in some other way... But "salvation" as the code name for an AI that the club created? Oh that is entirely too on theme.

    • @bilbogavins8597
      @bilbogavins8597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Solnoric I posted a comment on this channel detailing how Salvation could be affiliated with The Club. Although I don't personally believe this is the case, I am open to the idea.

  • @zontarr8812
    @zontarr8812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This bullshit broken promise game sell you a story with the ending as Game of Thrones. Wake up and look on what it have become, just text story like in 90's that connects the aliens with humans, ridiculous. I thought by now in 21 century we gone have real time story line not a newspaper to read. Guardians player interaction based on story happened in 2017 that s why we all have Guardian weapons and ships, it repeat itself for the new players.