What did you guys think about Turning Red? Let me know in the comments below! And if there's any aspect of the movie I didn't talk about in this video, just let me know and I'd be happy to share my answers with you all here. ❤ (P.S. why is 4Town actually so good??)
To me, it was a good movie. Also, being overprotective and turn their kids into the same person as their parents is a bad idea. There's a reason why Oscar Proud from The Proud Family, Simba from Lion King 2 Simba's Pride, King Triton from Little Mermaid, Alma Madrigal from Encanto and Ming Lee from Turning Red are overprotective characters. But, Simba, Alma Madrigal and King Triton are no longer overprotective and that's good. Oscar Proud on the other hand, he never changed. Also, the part were Ming Lee say that there's darkness in the Panda, she's wrong. Not every Red Panda has darkness, they have light. Even though the red panda does have darkness but there's a small fragment of light survive in the deepest darkness. It's the heart of children. (Sorry. I'm a fan of KH)
For me, the part of the movie that resonated with me deeply was when Ming in her teenage form was horrified at herself for “hurting” her mother. I too carry much guilt and self loathing for myself when I realize that I have wronged or hurt someone I care about in some way. Though I am learning to forgive myself as I would others, it’s not always easy. Now, for the reason why I added quotations around the word hurting. Rewatching this movie, I’ve noticed some clues that lead to the unlikeness Ming did in fact intentionally hurt her mother, or at the very least is absolutely responsible. I’ve also noticed the differing perspectives multiple people can have about the same situation. First, why Ming didn’t actually hurt her mother. The scar above the grandmothers eye is noticeable and imbedded in the skin. There’s no question about that. Meaning the cut was made a bit deeper than a superficial scar, which would’ve eventually become a faded scar. However, we see Ming becomes a Red Panda of nearly Kai-Ju size (Godzilla like so to speak). It’s likely when she was younger, the panda was smaller than what we saw near the end of the film, yet that doesn’t seem to be the case as even her husband states “I said she was big!,” implying even then she was of that size. Otherwise, he would’ve said “She’s gotten bigger,” or something of a similar context. The reason why Ming’s size is important is because if that was always the case, it’s hard to imagine how Ming could leave such a small scar on her mother in comparison to her size when in reality she mostly likely would’ve taken her head clean off. So I don’t believe Ming actually laid a hand, or paw, on her mother. As stated earlier, Ming’s husband said Ming nearly destroyed the temple. I believe what most likely happened in Ming’s rage is that as she was destroying the temple, some piece of debris or glass struck Ming’s mother, causing the scar. The placement of the scar is also no accident. It’s a head wound, and head wounds bleed… badly. Even from small cuts. When Ming saw her mother after she was hurt, she must’ve seen her mother’s face covered in blood. A truly traumatizing and terrifying thing to see. Even worse, Ming must’ve believed she actually physically hurt her mother without realizing it as she must’ve not noticed when her mother was struck by a piece of the temple. This may better explains the look of horror on her face we see in the movie, as she must be imagining her mother’s blood soaked face. So I don’t believe Ming ever actually hurt her mother, even in her rage. It was just an unfortunate accident. I think the writers of this story also tried to show the importance of perspective within this movie. Ming seeing the day she nearly destroyed the temple and “hurt” her mother as one of the most shameful and regretful days of her life is understandable. She believes in that day she acted horrifically and unjustly. Yet, when we look through the eyes of Ming’s husband, he saw someone amazing and powerful. He didn’t fear her nor was he appalled by her. He admired her for fighting for him. Interestingly enough, though for one of them it may have been a terrible day in their lives, for the other it reinforced why they loved their significant other in the first place and learned how much they meant to them as well. Ming and her mother also have shown to have different perspectives as to why they are no longer close. For Ming, it wasn’t because she doesn’t care for her mother or not love her anymore, but because the scar above the grandmothers eye reminds her of the worst day of her life, and the grandmothers cold behavior reinforces the idea her mother no longer loves her as she once did. Yet, the grandmother believes it was the spirit of the Red Panda that pulled her daughter away from her, not Ming’s shame. Ming most likely avoided her mother first out of shame, and the grandmother must’ve believed this behavior was the spirit of the Red Panda creating the schism between them. The grandmother may have also mistaken Ming’s changed behavior after the incident as Ming no longer loving her as she once did. Apologies for the long comment. Hope this analysis was at least interesting to read.
There is an element that is not usually addressed as much by reactors who are not from immigrant family backgrounds and that is the "Immigrant parent effect" .. People don't really realize how Alienating and traumatic immigration can be. To find one's self in a foreign land that share little to nothing with your culture, values or language is incredibly isolating. Thus many immigrant parents feel they have to work Triply hard to create a space for themselves and their families where they can have SOME element of the mother culture and values. So when the native born child gets to that "rebellious" period in their lives, it is a far bigger deal for the immigrant parents because they feel that their child's rebellion isn't just normal growing up but a rejection of them and their culture and an embrace of the native culture, a culture that they already perceive with great suspicion because all they can see of it are the flaws (Sex, drugs .. etc). I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I hear tons of criticism at the fact that the movie even discusses periods. “This should be pg-13 cause my little 7 year old daughter is too young to learn about periods ”, “My SON doesn’t need to learn about periods”. Karen please. No matter what age she hears about it, your daughter is going to get her period, so better sooner than later that she learns. And your son will probably have a girlfriend at some point, who you can help feel wayyy more comfortable talking to him about her period if he knows the ins and outs. This movie is great. It’s just the sexist stigma about periods that bring a LOT of the criticism. Edit: This goes for all people who have periods! Male identifying, Female identifying, and everything in between or off the spectrum, let’s all be properly educated so we can make ourselves or the ones we love comfortable with their period!
@@jericaneely949 yup! I started around 8 too and I literally thought I was dying. I told my mom and she handed me a pad and just told me “you have to put these on now when this happens”. Didn’t explain why, didn’t tell me most girls have them, didn’t teach me the proper hygiene and all that. Up until 12 I thought I was the only person in the world who had a period because that’s how little my mom told me. I eventually did research and found out that that was not the case at all. I found out why I have a period and how to better keep care of myself. Now I’m in school studying to become an OB/GYN, and to this day a huge advocate for women’s reproductive health and their rights to it! So yea, I 100% endorse this movie!
I hate how they correlate periods to something like intercourse , because those are two different things and more people should know about periods and how it works !
The fact that a pixar movie is breaking down the nuance of puberty for girls and those with uteruses feels incredibly important in breaking down the stigma. I have PMDD (Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder), so I truly do feel like this work is incredibly important in creating an openness that will lead to earlier diagnoses.
@@SassafrasTee7366 Premenstral Disphoric Disorder is the disordered version of PMS. Esentially, the brain does not know how to react to the fluctuations of reproductive hormones. It causes severe symptoms like anxiety, depression, swelling, and inflammation. One in twenty people with uteruses have it, but only 30% have a formal diagnosis. This is alaming considering that the rate of su*cide attempts, according to IAPMD, is 20% in those with known diagnosis. The symptoms are in the DSM, and self-monitoring is actually the first step to getting a formal diagnosis. I would love for Dr. Tracy to do a video on it!
YES!! I am 42 years old and have a very short cycle of every 20 days with extreme PMS symptoms that cause major pain, emotionally and physically, in the 8 days ahead of my first day...it's structured my entire life and relationships, or lack there of. I have never been able to get a doctor to understand the psychosis I go through in the days before, amongst wishing the world around me dead, I can also be completely suicidal, and I don't even know who that version of me is after it subsides. I'm finally learning it's not normal, and coming out of hiding to seek help, AT 42!! I have a complicated history and tend to hide from the world and relationships, and it feels like the pain and mental issues from my pms has played a huge part in my 30 years of having a menstrual cycle. We definitely need more support and education surrounding PMS and PMDD.
"Sometimes its okay for children to set boundaries with their parents." Ive been in need of this sentence for the last 10 years of my life. It wasn't before i had turned 20 that i realized i am actually allowed to tell my mother that opening my mail is technically illegal. I didnt get the mental help I needed because of this, i was going to get help about something and my mother decided to open my mail where i was called in and denied me to go because mental health problems doesnt exist. Everytime i order something now too she needs to know what it is. Ive just finally started denying her an answer.
I wish that parents would talk about periods before the age of 13 too! I started mine at 8 years old and it was super traumatizing and made me feel bad about myself for years. If kids knew this was going to happen to them eventually then maybe it wouldn’t be so traumatizing when it does.
I was told as soon as I turned 9 or ten about it so when I got it at 11 I was super calm about it in fact my first period was my best . SO yeah it is important to talk to your kids about things before it happens
@@carolinpurayidom4570 same here. i got mine a few weeks after my 10th birthday lol. i wasn’t freaked out by it bc my mom and cousins had spoken to me about it before. vaguely but i got the main gist of it.
Dude I got mine at 8 too and I was on a trip with my dad and uncle so it was super shameful and freaked me out so bad. Talking about it at like 7 or 8 would be better then 13.
I'm a little surprised you didn't touch on the little scene about Ming's panda in the tamogachi. This is someone else's piece, but someone mentioned about how clever and meaningful it was to show that Ming is taking care of her panda, the parts about herself that she hates the most and treating it like an individual entity that deserves care and attention. In nurturing those bad parts of herself, Ming is actively learning to accept those parts of her and in doing so hopefully she can ease up on herself and not be so hard on herself like her mother had done to her. With this, Ming can learn to be better at not being so hard on Mei as well because Ming is finally starting to see that those bad parts of herself, as well as any bad parts about anyone in general, are naturally occurring and deserve to be attended to appropriately to maintain a healthy homeostasis.
I really enjoyed this movie! It was pretty cool seeing a children’s movie talk about menstruation in a fun and simple way. I got my period on the younger side so I definitely don’t think 13 is too young to talk about it!
As someone who has a cousin that was hysterical after getting her period because she thought she was dying, I am a great believer that periods need to be discussed beforehand. My cousin was the only reason I was informed of periods, and for that, I am grateful for her sacrifice.
I would guess the group is called 4*Town because they came from four towns (two came from the same town). The director acknowledges that she presents what she has lived in Turning Red. I believe the intended primary target market is Millennials like the director who were young teens in 2002 and are parents of young teens today. Jin: What has your mother told you about her panda? Mei: Nothing And that is the point of the movie right there. The director has acknowledge that she has displayed elements of her own life in this movie. I believe the real target audience for this movie are Millennials who were young teens in 2002 and are parents of young teens today. The movie reminds those parents of the awkward and painful changes and conflicts they experienced, and it warns them to open up discussions with their children about those changes and conflicts. As parents, there are some dangers of growing up that we can totally shield our children from...like being hit by cars from playing in the street. But we can't shield them from the natural awkward and painful changes and conflicts of growing up, nor can we handle them ourselves. We can only give our children tools to handle those changes and conflicts. We can actually remove the red panda entirely and the basic issues of the story remain as for all of us. Mei had already been living a social life that she'd kept secret from her family. Her mother had already failed to discuss unavoidable life changes with her, and because of that, Mei automatically kept that secret from her mother. The fight between Mei and Ming, in all its necessary level of ferocity)r, mirrors the fight between Ming and grandmother Wu. The fight had to be all-out so that we understood the stakes: Mother and daughter might be permanently separated. The fight threatened to repeat the permanent emotional separation between Mei and Ming as happened between Ming and Wu, which was clearly also physical (the scar remained on Wu's forehead). I'm not a certified therapist, but I'm a 68-year old man who had both a boy and a girl who were teens in the early 2000s.
They probably also wanted to use “4” in the name since the pronunciation of the word Four sounds like the word Death in Chinese, so Four is a taboo bad luck word in Chinese culture. Her mother’s disapproval of a band that she loves also happens to have a number Chinese people don’t like.
@@hikki6089 I think that's the most likely explanation. Grandmother Wu was explicit about that, and although Ming didn't say it outright, it probably had a negative effect in the back of her mind.
There were a couple lines in the movie that stood out to me. First, Ming to Meilin: "There is a 'darkness' to the red panda", then Grandma to Meilin: "Your mother and I were close once, but 'the panda' took that away." It was interesting that Ming and her mother blamed the panda for the injuries caused that day, but don't want to blame Ming and her reactive anger, as if it wasn't really her fault, it was the mystical red panda's fault (to be fair, not many families have a hereditary magical transformation). This also shows when Ming accused the girls for Meilin's idea by calling her "a good girl". Even though there were signs that she was rebellious, including all the hidden things under her bed (literally the WORST hiding spot for anything, especially with a mother with no sense of boundaries) and sneaking out to go to the party, she doesn't acknowledge them. Deflections from the truth can really make generational trauma like this last for a long time.
I'm a fully grown cishet man who also grew up around the early-mid 00's and I was curious about this movie because I was hearing so much discourse about it. I surprisingly genuinely enjoyed it and I think the generational trauma aspect was wonderfully presented and effectively hits an emotional note that I could imagine would be quite important for some women/girls to become aware of. I definitely think its a girls movie but if you (other men) can get past that I think there is a very human story with believable emotions to enjoy. The red panda that was previously a perpetual force in driving a wedge in the relationship between mother and daughter might now be what saves their relationship. Keeping the panda brings a new level of emotional honesty thats accessible as a tool whereas before said tool was shunned. Pretty powerful to be honest lmao.
Right! The demographic that a movie is made for is never going to totally overlap with all the demographics that a movie is enjoyed by, nor should it. It’s SO important to be able to watch movies and read books with characters and problems that you can’t personally relate to. It teaches you to empathise with people who are different from you and, as you say, get past the surface to connect with the underlying human aspect of every well-told story.
@@SassafrasTee7366 don't know a single 'man' who has an issue with this movie, parents either.. where is everyone in this comment section seeing such blowback about this movie? i swear to god if y'all say twitter, well, whose fault is that..
I loved that they made a movie about these topics! My mum prepared me for getting my first period really well - one day (I would have been about 11 and already knew a bit about periods) she came home from the supermarket with several different types/brands of pads. She said "someday soon you're going to get your first period and when that happens I want you to be comfortable - so let's try on all these different types of pads and find one you like, and we'll make sure we have some in the house for the day that you need them" - best prep ever! No pressure, no judgement, and also made me feel more confident about my first period arriving.
Charming movie with sympathetic and entertaining characters. The feeling that you're not good enough for someone I could relate, especially when I was younger
As a cis guy, I'm flabbergasted by the people who act like 13 is too young for girls or boys to learn about puberty and menstruation. I went to school in a small rural town and girls were getting the puberty video in 4th grade, with boys getting it in 5th, and that was in the 90s. The earlier these things can be normalized, the better.
There is no controversy. Somebody dares to mention a period 🙄 If that becomes normal (which it is ) people are frightened women are not controllable any more, and we can't have that now can we. That's why it's such a no go.
They’re also upset they have to empathize with a girl, and cuz they cant, are finally eating their words when they mocked women for wanting representation and saying “you should be able to relate to everything without it needing to be like you”. They failed to do it when women have done it for years; they officially can’t say shit they can’t practice what they preach
I find it very interesting that the Mom says "It's too soon" when she thinks MeiMei has gotten her first period. Because 13 really is in the normal age range. Parents seem to think having a Period means we are suddenly adults and want to frick anything that moves, but that is something _Socity_ put on young women, not the other way around. The idea of menstruatio being equated with becoming a woman is an outdated Idea of a time where women were married as soon as they were able to have children, and isn't really applicable anymore. Plus due to our lifestyle in first world countrys providing an abundace of food and secure shelter (for the most part) There is a trend of girls having their periods sooner then they used to, sometimes at 11 or younger. This seems to be a simple physiological response to the fact that the body has the _physical_ capacity to produce another life, even if the owner of that body doesn't have anywhere near the _mental_ capacity to make such a decision or take on such a responsibility.
The first time I watched this movie, the scene where Meilin comforts the younger version of her mom made me cry particularly hard, because sometimes I wish I could do that for my parents. We've had our ups and downs, and the intergenerational issues are definitely a big factor, but just like Ming and Jin I'm able to really see the good in them despite the hard moments I've had with them where I've had to set harsher emotional boundaries. I'm sure part of my wanting to heal their wounds is an embedded mentality of always wanting to be of service and take care of them (something I actually have dealt and come to terms with through therapy), but something about that scene and the ending of Encanto really pulls out that want in me. As usual, I really enjoyed your reaction and breakdown and learned a lot from it, so thank you for everything you do!
Me neither! As if the same people who disliked Turning Red because Mei was a rebellious 13 year old girl, and dealing with her emotions around her identity, didn’t see “Inside Out” where Riley, an 11 year old girl, was dealing her emotions around moving away and needing to adapt to a new city, and wanting to run away
I am 17 and watched it with my younger siblings. It was cringey and had a lot of secondhand embarrassment at some points but that is what made it relatable and enjoyable. Overall, don't get the hate over it.
I watched this movie with my wife and 10 (almost 11) year old daughter and we all got something from the movie. We could see ourselves each in the Lee family members. We came up with a term for when we get angry at each other; we now say, "our panda is out."
My parents were very conservative Christians, so my sister and I grew up in a very strict household. We weren't allowed to watch certain shows or read certain books because my parents didn't approve of them. They didn't want to learn certain topics that ran against the Bible like evolution. But at least they didn't object when, upon reaching fourth grade, it was time for sex ed. Essentially for grades fourth through sixth grade, the school had a three day long session teaching students basic sex ed and how to care for our bodies. Come middle school is when they really went into more mature versions of sex ed, and again my parents didn't object. They always said they wanted my sister and I to know everything we can about our bodies so we don't do something stupid to endanger ourselves (IE sex without protection; risking both pregnancy and an STD). When we hit the teenage years, our parents kind of relaxed the strict boundaries and allowed to explore things they had previously forbidden us from. They told us they did that to show whether or we can be trusted to remember what they taught us and behave ourselves. My sister became a rebel girl, sneaking out at night and smoking and drinking, and had two pregnancy scares before she hit eighteen. I was the exact opposite, I continued to behave as if nothing has changed. As a result, I think my parents favored me over my sister and, to this day, she resents me for it. And in truth, I resent her for essentially abandoning me as a teen to do her own thing. Leaving me to deal with typical teenage problems like bullying and school life. Not to mention my parents getting a divorce when I was 13, so I was left on my own.
It's basically being religious without being wise nor spiritual. Like in Dunning-Kruger effect, only reach 'Mount Stupid', just understanding Bible on surface level. I've watched a YT video about religious leaders discussing many subject matters with scientists, and they are surprisingly open minded.
The amount of diversity in the movies is, in fact, incidental. It is set in Toronto, a city of 3 million people, 50% are immigrants, 49% are non-white.
I loved the movie, i'm a 21 year old man, but around 13 i was in a very similar situation like Mei, so i saw a lot of myself in her and it was great , btw can you react to the movie “The Fallout”??
I love the fact that they address a lot of controversial topics here such as unnecessary ridicule, treating natural bodily functions as a terrible thing, generational trauma, etc. I'd say screw those people who think this movie is bad. It's clear these 'critics' do this sort of thing often as a part of their lives thinking it's perfectly normal when it's not. As somebody who especially has autism, I sometimes get ridiculed for saying intelligent things. Or even respectfully speaking my mind. The common phrases of ridicule I hear is "No. I'll show you how the real world works, ---". "That's just your autism speaking" "Stop being sensitive". For the life of me, I could not keep track of how many times I've been hurt by this toxic mindset. Sometimes I feel like it had almost set me back once or twice when getting into adulthood. But I'm a stubborn sort and ignore that garbage to the best of my ability XD.
This movie made me cry so much because it reminds me of me, my big sister and my mom. My mom did her best to raise us with what she had but she also struggles to see that despite that, there are so many things that she taught us (knowingly or unknowingly) that hurt. I lover her so much and i also want to make her happy and not cause her problems like Mei-mei to her mother because it feels like a safe choice and there won't be disappointment, but because i did that, I'm scared of making mistakes or doing things that she wont like. I find it hard to breakout of that now because I've done it for so long that i only make choices that she would want me to make because I'm scared to fail. My big sister on the other hand, has begun to openly express her resentment to her and my mom doesn't think she did anything wrong enough to have my sister react as she is, and hides behind the "i didn't have that when i was little" and thinks she's just holding on to anger that my sister "never got everything she wanted just because she wanted it". My big sister never had room to make mistakes and was grounded all the time and I find it hard to attempt to do anything when i feel i have a higher chance to fail and never end up trying. And the last part where Ming apologized to Mei-mei? The acknowledgement that she did things that affected her and hurt her? Made me cry even more because that's all that you need sometimes to feel better, but somehow when my mom apologizes it feels like she's just saying it and not meaning it and thinks that it's good enough. This was very long, super sorry ^^
What Ming Lee says in the end is all I’ve ever wanted to hear from my mother all my life. “If I taught you ____, I’m sorry” when she breaks down I never fail to cry, I’m going thru a lot of shit rn.
I find it interesting that the color red is a bad color in this movie but in Chinese culture, it’s a lucky color. I think red in this movie represents puberty along with the awakening of passionate emotions like love, anger, and embarrassment. Red represents change in the movie.
As you've said, red represents anger, embarrassment, puberty, change, luck in Chinese culture and the native red panda in China, but it's also prominent in the Canadian flag so in turn it also represents the essence of Canadian culture - a mosaic landscape of multiculturalism. A blend of one's heritage with one's upbringing, East meets West, acknowledgement of the importance of both in Mei's own personal identity. The reprise of Nobody Like You in the final scene, tied to the Cantonese chanting was a great example of this marriage between cultures. This movie was amazing.
i still dont understand why this is related to periods since all and all its basically about a mom being too overprotective and thinking the protagonist has period at first later on this doesn't get mentioned however, its basically hormonal changes in their psyche when puberty hits it not only periods but also the brains of the individual as well. I think the show focused on it however bruh those people saying this is sexual idk man (just think dudes and gals).
I heard someone say "IT SUCKS, STOP SAYING IT DOESN'T!" but i'm like, it doesn't suck, its a funny, interesting and fun movie. People will hate on a movie and then think that everyone else should feel the same way, and that their personal opinion is universal law. No chief, it ain't. As for people freaking out about periods, I got my period when i was 11, and my friend got hers at age 10. We're both Millennials and our parents are baby boomers who had no issue explaining periods and letting us know in advance what was going to happen at some point. It's hilarious and pathetic how periods are still a taboo subject today.
We still see it today how many WANT it to remain taboo. A Right Wing politician that DID go on about the 3 P's, Menstrual equity/Period Poverty and shockingly supported a bill for free pads/tampons in public schools (good on him for at least trying to reduce the stigma and open up the conversation) - and yet it didn't pass because others on the Right saw it as "too liberal", the terms Menstrual equity/Period Poverty as too "woke" and the whole topic of allowing dignity for all and prevent missed school hours as “Why are our schools obsessed with the private parts of our children?"
Having grown up in an Asian household, I related to this film, to a certain extent anyway. Respecting the elders is big and the thought of disappointing parents in any way is unheard of.
This movie makes me sad but happy because I don’t have exactly the best relationship with my mother and seeing this movie broke my heart, especially seeing the ending…I’m glad to see you cover this
For the 4Town name, I just assume they came from four different towns. There's probably a completely different reason why the writers picked that name specifically, but as far as in-world logic goes, it makes the most sense. Even though I didn't notice how many until it was pointed out. When it comes to periods... I remember being told what one was and how to mentally prepare for it by the school, but not one of the five adults in my household thought to have anything like pads for me. When it did arrive one school morning, I had to make do with a single liner gotten from the school's "special talk", failed attempts at putting in a tampon (the school itself did not have pads) and a heavy layer of toilet paper. I still vividly remember that afternoon, too: I was picked up by my father (typically, it was my grandfather who did this) and my aunt, taken to the supermarket where I was presented with a wall of sanitary products and told to choose despite not knowing what I needed. All whilst my usually emotionally distant father kept trying to hug me and moan how I'm no longer "his little girl". An all-around not good time. When it came to my child, I was determined to ensure they were way more mentally prepared. They also had their own supply of pads. When they reached around the same age, they came directly to me with all the details and several queries they wanted more information on. That first time, I gave them several days off school and spent that time letting them just loaf around as they chose (I still do if they're cramping too much, including picking them up halfway through the day). For a while, they used to burst out of their room with the Jaws Theme playing on their phone as an announcement.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Especially your dad making it all about him, that’s unbelievable. Great on you for deciding to do better and putting in the effort to do better. ❤❤❤
The part that makes me cry the most is when Mei Mei leads her mother out of the forest. As someone who grew up having to be the family emotional dumping ground it brought up those memories
As you asked, here are some reactions from asian american/canadian creators to turning red : Sophia Phan th-cam.com/video/X7jew9gJ3pY/w-d-xo.html ANGELINA th-cam.com/video/4z_klSQia4w/w-d-xo.html Xiran Jay Zhao th-cam.com/video/OYzW1OSH714/w-d-xo.html Hope you find it interesting !
Totally love this movie, first off all the Toronto refernces as a Canadian. I love that as a teen they talk about periods in such a open way. I love that Sandra Oh voices the mother cause Sandra is one of my favorite actresses of all time. One of my friends who is Chinese brought up the movie and said they found the way they potrayed the family dynamisme too be very relatable especially the scene with the aunties, and the mother daughter fights. Great reaction
Before I say ANYTHING, I must state this. I am female to male transgender. I grew up female. My mom told me about "it" before it happened. I was terrified when she told me but when it happened, I was surprisingly calm.
when i was in the 2. elementary school year we had each week a chair circle where we would talk about our week. But there was this one week when our teacher was talking about periods instead of us talking as usual. Even tho the topic didn't touch me at all (or so i thought as a small boy ;) ) the whole thing stuck in my head and i asked my mom about it. she told me that one of the girls, who was coming from an extremely religious family, did get her first period quite early and didn't knew a thing so our teacher taught us all the basics. It must have been terrifying for that girl and its really sad that she did talk about that with her teacher first and not the family. I bet that kind of family is steering the "controversy" today...
I remember when I was nine, a few days after me and mom went to the hospital "for tests", the results said my body was more around twelve than nine, or something along the lines of that. She then confronted me about periods in kid terms and to the day of today i still believe she has some majestic intuition, because a month after i got my first one when grandma was babysitting us ❤
I wish I knew that it’s actually okay to set boundaries with my parents before 😢 I’m 25 with 2 kids and I still struggle to say no to my Mexican parents. If I say no or just give them my opinion, they think I’m talking back or being disrespectful. I hate that my parents never thought me how to be independent.
I'd love to see you react to Encanto, although given all the music that might be tough to edit. Cool side note unrelated to psychology: the music is primarily done by Billie Eilish and her brother Fineas. (and also Ludwig Emil Tomas Göransson)
its not therapy related but a super (in my opinion) underrated joke in this movie is the grandma being upset about the '4' necklace, not because its for a boyband but because the number 4 is synonymous with death, and therefore unlucky. I thought it was a nice touch lol
I roll my eyes at lot of that criticism. Like the periods one, people clutching their pearls about this being discussed openly. Making something that is part of puberty for a lot of people...something that is natural, this shameful secret that shouldn't be discussed ever unless it's in an awkward conversation and in hushed whisperers. And god forbid there is the opposite sex present! Because I guess boys and men should like...never know about it and treat it as yucky and disgusting.
Unfortunately, the fans aren't much better. Every _Turning Red_ video I see, the comments are all like, "OMG, THEY MENTIONED PERIDOS? WOW, HOW PROGRESSIVE! NORMALIZE PERIODS!!!!" like... bruh, it's literally something that happens to *every* girl - why is that so hard to comprehend?
This movie touched something deep inside me, but I'm still unsure what that was. I just know it has affected me deeply and certain scenes, the part where they're driving home in the car and Ming reaches over to put her hand on her daughters; the part where Mei decides to keep her Panda; the part where she hugs her tail; and especially the part where she springs into the air and a big slow-motion look of sheer joy on her face as she becomes aware of what she can do, then running and jumping over the rooftops to go to the concert to make up with her friends makes me tear up every time. Just so damn beautiful. The part in the bamboo forest with Ming as a child and her speech to her daughter through the portal just destroys me every time. I think in time, this movie will be mentioned in the same breath as The Incredibles and Toy Story. Easily one of their best movies. So ridiculously good, it's untrue.
i feel like kids probably wont notice the contorversial par? t, its very cute and colorful and I appreciated the detail and the authentic Chinese cultural references for the story origin.NIce review !
Thanks for the vid! I subscribed. I appreciate what you said about not commenting on how Mei and Ming react to each other in the beginning. I usually tell parents who criticize the film to watch it with their kids so they can talk about it later. It's great for growth. I don't really see anything wrong with the film.
I seriously think that's kind of continuation of Inside Out. Look, Inside Out ended when Rally was 12 years old and an extended control panel with a RED 'puberty' light is installed. In Turning Red, Mei is 13 and this light actually TURNS RED. Of course, there are also externalized emotions. People wondered how Inside out would have looked with those themes and now it turns out that is controvercial, but NO it's natural. What can Pixar discuss topics about trauma, death, killing, guns, betreyals, fraud, and not about puberty? Kids should know earier than it happens. I have to admit that trailers of turning red seemed to me not encouraging, but I watched movie and I love it. Pixar instead of focusing on deep metaphysical themes, this time it focused on a down-to-earth, inevitable topic. The time of the action is also not accidental, 2002 was the year in which the current 33-year-olds were 13 years old and matured in those realities, and now they probably have their own 13-year-old children. This was to remind you of the times when they were teenagers and surely these awkward things happened to them and to understand the individuality of their child. In 2002 I was 2 years old so I cannot fully identify with those realities xD, but I am in between these 2 decades and I have not "forgotten" yet what it is like to be at this age and this film is so accurate. I also love that cultural references and generational trauma.
I was 11 and had the misfortune to get my menarche when I was at my grandmothers. I’d spent much of my childhood there. Now, my grandmother was an alcoholic and housebound as a consequence. Her reaction was to hand me some money and send me to the local corner shop to ask the male shop keeper for a packet of pads. It was mortifying. Nana’s been dead for more than 40 years, now, and I still can’t quite forgive her for that.
Not Gonna Lie: legitimately surprised there hasn't been a reaction to "Encanto" on your channel. Most of that family could benefit from an evaluation...
Honestly when I watched the movie I never thought the red panda could be menstruation, I thought it was the stage of developing as a teen psychologically, growing out of childhood (i am nothing close to an expert tho). Maybe it was because I was studying for a psych exam where we talked about the mournings of the teenager, their childhood bodies, their role as kids and their parents. I saw these things in the movie, the body is different, bigger, stronger and sometimes is super weird to get used to your own bodie when you get taller or gain weight during that stage, also the breaking point with the parents, the boundaries and the limits "this is me // this is you. I loved it. Loved this movie, cried, laughed, it was GREAT
It IS a puberty/growing out of childhood but not yet being an adult metaphor, but in people AFAB, that generally goes hand in hand with first Menses and boobs.
I realised something a few weeks ago that i havent seen anyone talk about(correct me if im wrong). The mom's Panda ends up ik a tamagochi right? A TAMAGOCHI. She is seen taking care of it. And by principle you have to take care of it to keep it alive. I wonder if this is a metaphor for the mom finally taking care of her inner self and her childhood trauma...🥲💔
Guys, get this, I’m a 15 yr old girl now, and my best friend is a boy and also my age. My younger sister was menstruating once, and (it wasn’t my idea) my mom decided to let him know of this to tell him why she couldn’t participate in today’s activities. And that’s the day I learned that he was 13/14 ish when he first learned about periods. From my mom 🤦🏻♀
I don't get the drama around this movie, because from what I've been told... parents where ALREADY LIKE THAT GROWING UP (Or even WORSE) back then. They were exposed to more things and a lot of their things weren't censored..So people are just looking for reasons to be mad about something like this.
A lot of people think generational trauma has to take back decades ago, but that's not always true. Movies like this prove that generational trauma can exist in the modern world beyond just what people think.
11:40 On a personal level I wasn't that big of a fan of the "Are you a triangle, 'cause you acute" because yeah, it was catcalling, even if it seemed consensual. A good scene from a filmmaking and just being honest about middle schoolers perspective though.
Do you have any tips on how I can manage my detachment with my womanhood? My boobies don't feel like they are a part of me and I am unable to get my period without getting emotionaly wrecked. I am 23 now and all this started at around 12. Is this normal? Do I need more time?
I would speak about this with a doctor just to be safe. You feeling horrible is not really normal and you could have something going on. You shouldn’t have to live in misery if you can change it or make educated choices to lessen it.
@@ladycobrana852 I am not in pain, thankfully, this is more psychological related. No one takes me seriously, so I just wait it out for now and take the pill everyday to not bleed.
@@leaflet1686 You should really ask a doctor, like I have a similar thing called PMDD that was diagnosed by my gyno. Not saying you have to same thing but you should really ask a doctor.
I wish i had a Jin dad growing up T_T . My father wasn't exactly the ideal parent especially coming from a divorced home. My father liked to be Mr Fun times on the weekends but as i grew up and found my own thing and discovered more about myself my father became more and more distant from me. I've tried on a few occasions in the past to try and extend a bridge to him but he doesn't do things unless their on his terms. He hasn't even tried to speak to me much since I came out of the closet as Homosexual. The last time he was in town i couldn't see him because i had made plans with friends a month in advance and i couldn't cancel. Dad kept telling my sisters how much he wanted to see me but he made no other attempt to actually see me after that. Everything has to be on his terms and he's never tried to find compromise with me.
I adore this video from you and your perspective!!! It definitely spoke to me so much even as a non chinese canadian non girl LOL You mentioned looking for reactions and I recommend this one from a chinese youtuber - th-cam.com/video/5JPALrP2-2o/w-d-xo.html
I haven’t watched it yet. Puzzled there was controversy the film had a PG-13 rating. What age do people think girls experience menarche? Soo much ignorance out there.
Maybe this is just my literal mindedness kicking me again, but why does everyone keep asking why are they called 4town? Perhaps they came from four different towns. It is not called 4dudes or the quartet or anything no one asks why there are not 41 people in sum 41. Gosh Blink 182 would insanity.
Turning red isn’t controversial. People just obviously dont know how teenage girls are especially at 12-15..i remember girls loved justin Bieber and hardy styles and would scream over them. Like be so fr!!! Its VERY VERY realistic and just because u dont align with the culture of mei mei doesnt mean u cant align with the teenage aspect
Personally, I blame girls not knowing about periods until they get them on them being neurotypical. Neurotypical kids *hate* learning about the world - they're always questioning why we need to learn state capitals, or mitochondria, or how to play the piano, asking why they're ever going to need all that knowledge in life. And then they *claim* they'd rather learn important stuff like taxes and how to get a job, but in reality they just prefer to memorise fictional creatures like Magcargo and Geodude.
What did you guys think about Turning Red? Let me know in the comments below! And if there's any aspect of the movie I didn't talk about in this video, just let me know and I'd be happy to share my answers with you all here. ❤
(P.S. why is 4Town actually so good??)
To me, it was a good movie. Also, being overprotective and turn their kids into the same person as their parents is a bad idea. There's a reason why Oscar Proud from The Proud Family, Simba from Lion King 2 Simba's Pride, King Triton from Little Mermaid, Alma Madrigal from Encanto and Ming Lee from Turning Red are overprotective characters. But, Simba, Alma Madrigal and King Triton are no longer overprotective and that's good. Oscar Proud on the other hand, he never changed. Also, the part were Ming Lee say that there's darkness in the Panda, she's wrong. Not every Red Panda has darkness, they have light. Even though the red panda does have darkness but there's a small fragment of light survive in the deepest darkness. It's the heart of children. (Sorry. I'm a fan of KH)
This is the best magical girl transformation ever :)
For me, the part of the movie that resonated with me deeply was when Ming in her teenage form was horrified at herself for “hurting” her mother. I too carry much guilt and self loathing for myself when I realize that I have wronged or hurt someone I care about in some way. Though I am learning to forgive myself as I would others, it’s not always easy.
Now, for the reason why I added quotations around the word hurting. Rewatching this movie, I’ve noticed some clues that lead to the unlikeness Ming did in fact intentionally hurt her mother, or at the very least is absolutely responsible. I’ve also noticed the differing perspectives multiple people can have about the same situation.
First, why Ming didn’t actually hurt her mother. The scar above the grandmothers eye is noticeable and imbedded in the skin. There’s no question about that. Meaning the cut was made a bit deeper than a superficial scar, which would’ve eventually become a faded scar.
However, we see Ming becomes a Red Panda of nearly Kai-Ju size (Godzilla like so to speak). It’s likely when she was younger, the panda was smaller than what we saw near the end of the film, yet that doesn’t seem to be the case as even her husband states “I said she was big!,” implying even then she was of that size. Otherwise, he would’ve said “She’s gotten bigger,” or something of a similar context. The reason why Ming’s size is important is because if that was always the case, it’s hard to imagine how Ming could leave such a small scar on her mother in comparison to her size when in reality she mostly likely would’ve taken her head clean off.
So I don’t believe Ming actually laid a hand, or paw, on her mother. As stated earlier, Ming’s husband said Ming nearly destroyed the temple. I believe what most likely happened in Ming’s rage is that as she was destroying the temple, some piece of debris or glass struck Ming’s mother, causing the scar. The placement of the scar is also no accident. It’s a head wound, and head wounds bleed… badly. Even from small cuts.
When Ming saw her mother after she was hurt, she must’ve seen her mother’s face covered in blood. A truly traumatizing and terrifying thing to see. Even worse, Ming must’ve believed she actually physically hurt her mother without realizing it as she must’ve not noticed when her mother was struck by a piece of the temple. This may better explains the look of horror on her face we see in the movie, as she must be imagining her mother’s blood soaked face.
So I don’t believe Ming ever actually hurt her mother, even in her rage. It was just an unfortunate accident.
I think the writers of this story also tried to show the importance of perspective within this movie. Ming seeing the day she nearly destroyed the temple and “hurt” her mother as one of the most shameful and regretful days of her life is understandable. She believes in that day she acted horrifically and unjustly.
Yet, when we look through the eyes of Ming’s husband, he saw someone amazing and powerful. He didn’t fear her nor was he appalled by her. He admired her for fighting for him. Interestingly enough, though for one of them it may have been a terrible day in their lives, for the other it reinforced why they loved their significant other in the first place and learned how much they meant to them as well.
Ming and her mother also have shown to have different perspectives as to why they are no longer close. For Ming, it wasn’t because she doesn’t care for her mother or not love her anymore, but because the scar above the grandmothers eye reminds her of the worst day of her life, and the grandmothers cold behavior reinforces the idea her mother no longer loves her as she once did.
Yet, the grandmother believes it was the spirit of the Red Panda that pulled her daughter away from her, not Ming’s shame. Ming most likely avoided her mother first out of shame, and the grandmother must’ve believed this behavior was the spirit of the Red Panda creating the schism between them. The grandmother may have also mistaken Ming’s changed behavior after the incident as Ming no longer loving her as she once did.
Apologies for the long comment. Hope this analysis was at least interesting to read.
4 town, members are from 4 towns..why 5 members?? Two of them are brothers...
There is an element that is not usually addressed as much by reactors who are not from immigrant family backgrounds and that is the "Immigrant parent effect" .. People don't really realize how Alienating and traumatic immigration can be. To find one's self in a foreign land that share little to nothing with your culture, values or language is incredibly isolating. Thus many immigrant parents feel they have to work Triply hard to create a space for themselves and their families where they can have SOME element of the mother culture and values. So when the native born child gets to that "rebellious" period in their lives, it is a far bigger deal for the immigrant parents because they feel that their child's rebellion isn't just normal growing up but a rejection of them and their culture and an embrace of the native culture, a culture that they already perceive with great suspicion because all they can see of it are the flaws (Sex, drugs .. etc). I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I hear tons of criticism at the fact that the movie even discusses periods. “This should be pg-13 cause my little 7 year old daughter is too young to learn about periods ”, “My SON doesn’t need to learn about periods”. Karen please. No matter what age she hears about it, your daughter is going to get her period, so better sooner than later that she learns. And your son will probably have a girlfriend at some point, who you can help feel wayyy more comfortable talking to him about her period if he knows the ins and outs. This movie is great. It’s just the sexist stigma about periods that bring a LOT of the criticism.
Edit: This goes for all people who have periods! Male identifying, Female identifying, and everything in between or off the spectrum, let’s all be properly educated so we can make ourselves or the ones we love comfortable with their period!
Agreed! It's only weird if we make it.
I had my period when I was 8, kids are hitting puberty faster so to say that 13 is a good age is definitely old school
@@jericaneely949 yup! I started around 8 too and I literally thought I was dying. I told my mom and she handed me a pad and just told me “you have to put these on now when this happens”. Didn’t explain why, didn’t tell me most girls have them, didn’t teach me the proper hygiene and all that. Up until 12 I thought I was the only person in the world who had a period because that’s how little my mom told me. I eventually did research and found out that that was not the case at all. I found out why I have a period and how to better keep care of myself. Now I’m in school studying to become an OB/GYN, and to this day a huge advocate for women’s reproductive health and their rights to it! So yea, I 100% endorse this movie!
I hate how they correlate periods to something like intercourse , because those are two different things and more people should know about periods and how it works !
"My SON doesn’t need to learn about periods".
So, you rather have him with a boyfriend ? :D
The fact that a pixar movie is breaking down the nuance of puberty for girls and those with uteruses feels incredibly important in breaking down the stigma. I have PMDD (Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder), so I truly do feel like this work is incredibly important in creating an openness that will lead to earlier diagnoses.
What is PPMD. I’ve never heard of it 🤔
@@SassafrasTee7366 Premenstral Disphoric Disorder is the disordered version of PMS. Esentially, the brain does not know how to react to the fluctuations of reproductive hormones. It causes severe symptoms like anxiety, depression, swelling, and inflammation. One in twenty people with uteruses have it, but only 30% have a formal diagnosis. This is alaming considering that the rate of su*cide attempts, according to IAPMD, is 20% in those with known diagnosis. The symptoms are in the DSM, and self-monitoring is actually the first step to getting a formal diagnosis. I would love for Dr. Tracy to do a video on it!
YES!! I am 42 years old and have a very short cycle of every 20 days with extreme PMS symptoms that cause major pain, emotionally and physically, in the 8 days ahead of my first day...it's structured my entire life and relationships, or lack there of. I have never been able to get a doctor to understand the psychosis I go through in the days before, amongst wishing the world around me dead, I can also be completely suicidal, and I don't even know who that version of me is after it subsides. I'm finally learning it's not normal, and coming out of hiding to seek help, AT 42!! I have a complicated history and tend to hide from the world and relationships, and it feels like the pain and mental issues from my pms has played a huge part in my 30 years of having a menstrual cycle. We definitely need more support and education surrounding PMS and PMDD.
@@angelinaveneziano5303 oh wow thank you for the explanation! I had no idea
You say that, but 20 years from now, there's be another kids' movie about periods, and everyone will be pretending *that* is the first.
"Sometimes its okay for children to set boundaries with their parents."
Ive been in need of this sentence for the last 10 years of my life. It wasn't before i had turned 20 that i realized i am actually allowed to tell my mother that opening my mail is technically illegal.
I didnt get the mental help I needed because of this, i was going to get help about something and my mother decided to open my mail where i was called in and denied me to go because mental health problems doesnt exist. Everytime i order something now too she needs to know what it is. Ive just finally started denying her an answer.
I wish that parents would talk about periods before the age of 13 too! I started mine at 8 years old and it was super traumatizing and made me feel bad about myself for years. If kids knew this was going to happen to them eventually then maybe it wouldn’t be so traumatizing when it does.
I was told as soon as I turned 9 or ten about it so when I got it at 11 I was super calm about it in fact my first period was my best . SO yeah it is important to talk to your kids about things before it happens
I can relate. It happened to me too. I'm there for you sister.
@@carolinpurayidom4570 same here. i got mine a few weeks after my 10th birthday lol. i wasn’t freaked out by it bc my mom and cousins had spoken to me about it before. vaguely but i got the main gist of it.
Damn. You are right. It should be taught.
Dude I got mine at 8 too and I was on a trip with my dad and uncle so it was super shameful and freaked me out so bad. Talking about it at like 7 or 8 would be better then 13.
I'm a little surprised you didn't touch on the little scene about Ming's panda in the tamogachi.
This is someone else's piece, but someone mentioned about how clever and meaningful it was to show that Ming is taking care of her panda, the parts about herself that she hates the most and treating it like an individual entity that deserves care and attention.
In nurturing those bad parts of herself, Ming is actively learning to accept those parts of her and in doing so hopefully she can ease up on herself and not be so hard on herself like her mother had done to her. With this, Ming can learn to be better at not being so hard on Mei as well because Ming is finally starting to see that those bad parts of herself, as well as any bad parts about anyone in general, are naturally occurring and deserve to be attended to appropriately to maintain a healthy homeostasis.
Never thought it like that. Incredible perceptiveness 👍🏼
I really enjoyed this movie! It was pretty cool seeing a children’s movie talk about menstruation in a fun and simple way. I got my period on the younger side so I definitely don’t think 13 is too young to talk about it!
i think 13 is so late to talk about it tbh. the earlier the better so when it happens your child doesn’t freak out and think they’re dying
Agreed
Me too.
Literally. My mom got hers when she was 9 and I got mine when I was like 11 so it’s not a “you’re too young” matter.
@@El1society Exactly! Especially since it's a normal thing that happens to every female anatomy person
As someone who has a cousin that was hysterical after getting her period because she thought she was dying, I am a great believer that periods need to be discussed beforehand. My cousin was the only reason I was informed of periods, and for that, I am grateful for her sacrifice.
I would guess the group is called 4*Town because they came from four towns (two came from the same town).
The director acknowledges that she presents what she has lived in Turning Red. I believe the intended primary target market is Millennials like the director who were young teens in 2002 and are parents of young teens today.
Jin: What has your mother told you about her panda?
Mei: Nothing
And that is the point of the movie right there.
The director has acknowledge that she has displayed elements of her own life in this movie. I believe the real target audience for this movie are Millennials who were young teens in 2002 and are parents of young teens today. The movie reminds those parents of the awkward and painful changes and conflicts they experienced, and it warns them to open up discussions with their children about those changes and conflicts. As parents, there are some dangers of growing up that we can totally shield our children from...like being hit by cars from playing in the street.
But we can't shield them from the natural awkward and painful changes and conflicts of growing up, nor can we handle them ourselves. We can only give our children tools to handle those changes and conflicts.
We can actually remove the red panda entirely and the basic issues of the story remain as for all of us. Mei had already been living a social life that she'd kept secret from her family. Her mother had already failed to discuss unavoidable life changes with her, and because of that, Mei automatically kept that secret from her mother.
The fight between Mei and Ming, in all its necessary level of ferocity)r, mirrors the fight between Ming and grandmother Wu. The fight had to be all-out so that we understood the stakes: Mother and daughter might be permanently separated. The fight threatened to repeat the permanent emotional separation between Mei and Ming as happened between Ming and Wu, which was clearly also physical (the scar remained on Wu's forehead).
I'm not a certified therapist, but I'm a 68-year old man who had both a boy and a girl who were teens in the early 2000s.
I actually thought that it was called 4 town cause there is two people named Aaron. But your explanation makes more sense
I thought it was because they were a group 4 the town but that makes sense too
They probably also wanted to use “4” in the name since the pronunciation of the word Four sounds like the word Death in Chinese, so Four is a taboo bad luck word in Chinese culture. Her mother’s disapproval of a band that she loves also happens to have a number Chinese people don’t like.
@@hikki6089 I think that's the most likely explanation. Grandmother Wu was explicit about that, and although Ming didn't say it outright, it probably had a negative effect in the back of her mind.
5:18 It's borderline a boomer joke, but the dad in the background freezing and then just slowly backing up just cracks me up
"NOPING OUTTA THIS ONE!"
Same, though
There were a couple lines in the movie that stood out to me. First, Ming to Meilin: "There is a 'darkness' to the red panda", then Grandma to Meilin: "Your mother and I were close once, but 'the panda' took that away." It was interesting that Ming and her mother blamed the panda for the injuries caused that day, but don't want to blame Ming and her reactive anger, as if it wasn't really her fault, it was the mystical red panda's fault (to be fair, not many families have a hereditary magical transformation). This also shows when Ming accused the girls for Meilin's idea by calling her "a good girl". Even though there were signs that she was rebellious, including all the hidden things under her bed (literally the WORST hiding spot for anything, especially with a mother with no sense of boundaries) and sneaking out to go to the party, she doesn't acknowledge them. Deflections from the truth can really make generational trauma like this last for a long time.
I'm a fully grown cishet man who also grew up around the early-mid 00's and I was curious about this movie because I was hearing so much discourse about it.
I surprisingly genuinely enjoyed it and I think the generational trauma aspect was wonderfully presented and effectively hits an emotional note that I could imagine would be quite important for some women/girls to become aware of. I definitely think its a girls movie but if you (other men) can get past that I think there is a very human story with believable emotions to enjoy.
The red panda that was previously a perpetual force in driving a wedge in the relationship between mother and daughter might now be what saves their relationship. Keeping the panda brings a new level of emotional honesty thats accessible as a tool whereas before said tool was shunned. Pretty powerful to be honest lmao.
I’m glad you liked it. A lot of people who hate on this movie are men and mostly parents.
Well said!
Right! The demographic that a movie is made for is never going to totally overlap with all the demographics that a movie is enjoyed by, nor should it. It’s SO important to be able to watch movies and read books with characters and problems that you can’t personally relate to. It teaches you to empathise with people who are different from you and, as you say, get past the surface to connect with the underlying human aspect of every well-told story.
@@SassafrasTee7366 don't know a single 'man' who has an issue with this movie, parents either.. where is everyone in this comment section seeing such blowback about this movie? i swear to god if y'all say twitter, well, whose fault is that..
Yeah same as my mother said "I suffered so should you", great parenting xD
I loved that they made a movie about these topics! My mum prepared me for getting my first period really well - one day (I would have been about 11 and already knew a bit about periods) she came home from the supermarket with several different types/brands of pads. She said "someday soon you're going to get your first period and when that happens I want you to be comfortable - so let's try on all these different types of pads and find one you like, and we'll make sure we have some in the house for the day that you need them" - best prep ever! No pressure, no judgement, and also made me feel more confident about my first period arriving.
Charming movie with sympathetic and entertaining characters. The feeling that you're not good enough for someone I could relate, especially when I was younger
As a cis guy, I'm flabbergasted by the people who act like 13 is too young for girls or boys to learn about puberty and menstruation. I went to school in a small rural town and girls were getting the puberty video in 4th grade, with boys getting it in 5th, and that was in the 90s. The earlier these things can be normalized, the better.
We have similar in Australia, start the puberty talks in school at about grade 4 and continue throughout primary school and highschool.
So... why can't the parents just buy their kids books on the human body?
Even in the movie, one of the girls at school mentions having kidneys, so clearly these kids are learning about the human body from somewhere.
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster what exactly are you upset about?
There is no controversy. Somebody dares to mention a period 🙄
If that becomes normal (which it is ) people are frightened women are not controllable any more, and we can't have that now can we. That's why it's such a no go.
They’re also upset they have to empathize with a girl, and cuz they cant, are finally eating their words when they mocked women for wanting representation and saying “you should be able to relate to everything without it needing to be like you”. They failed to do it when women have done it for years; they officially can’t say shit they can’t practice what they preach
I find it very interesting that the Mom says "It's too soon" when she thinks MeiMei has gotten her first period. Because 13 really is in the normal age range. Parents seem to think having a Period means we are suddenly adults and want to frick anything that moves, but that is something _Socity_ put on young women, not the other way around. The idea of menstruatio being equated with becoming a woman is an outdated Idea of a time where women were married as soon as they were able to have children, and isn't really applicable anymore. Plus due to our lifestyle in first world countrys providing an abundace of food and secure shelter (for the most part) There is a trend of girls having their periods sooner then they used to, sometimes at 11 or younger. This seems to be a simple physiological response to the fact that the body has the _physical_ capacity to produce another life, even if the owner of that body doesn't have anywhere near the _mental_ capacity to make such a decision or take on such a responsibility.
The first time I watched this movie, the scene where Meilin comforts the younger version of her mom made me cry particularly hard, because sometimes I wish I could do that for my parents. We've had our ups and downs, and the intergenerational issues are definitely a big factor, but just like Ming and Jin I'm able to really see the good in them despite the hard moments I've had with them where I've had to set harsher emotional boundaries. I'm sure part of my wanting to heal their wounds is an embedded mentality of always wanting to be of service and take care of them (something I actually have dealt and come to terms with through therapy), but something about that scene and the ending of Encanto really pulls out that want in me. As usual, I really enjoyed your reaction and breakdown and learned a lot from it, so thank you for everything you do!
Watched it with my nearly 12 yr old, we loved it, both of us can't understand the negativity.
Me neither! As if the same people who disliked Turning Red because Mei was a rebellious 13 year old girl, and dealing with her emotions around her identity, didn’t see “Inside Out” where Riley, an 11 year old girl, was dealing her emotions around moving away and needing to adapt to a new city, and wanting to run away
I am 17 and watched it with my younger siblings. It was cringey and had a lot of secondhand embarrassment at some points but that is what made it relatable and enjoyable. Overall, don't get the hate over it.
I watched this movie with my wife and 10 (almost 11) year old daughter and we all got something from the movie. We could see ourselves each in the Lee family members. We came up with a term for when we get angry at each other; we now say, "our panda is out."
My parents were very conservative Christians, so my sister and I grew up in a very strict household. We weren't allowed to watch certain shows or read certain books because my parents didn't approve of them. They didn't want to learn certain topics that ran against the Bible like evolution. But at least they didn't object when, upon reaching fourth grade, it was time for sex ed. Essentially for grades fourth through sixth grade, the school had a three day long session teaching students basic sex ed and how to care for our bodies. Come middle school is when they really went into more mature versions of sex ed, and again my parents didn't object. They always said they wanted my sister and I to know everything we can about our bodies so we don't do something stupid to endanger ourselves (IE sex without protection; risking both pregnancy and an STD).
When we hit the teenage years, our parents kind of relaxed the strict boundaries and allowed to explore things they had previously forbidden us from. They told us they did that to show whether or we can be trusted to remember what they taught us and behave ourselves.
My sister became a rebel girl, sneaking out at night and smoking and drinking, and had two pregnancy scares before she hit eighteen. I was the exact opposite, I continued to behave as if nothing has changed. As a result, I think my parents favored me over my sister and, to this day, she resents me for it. And in truth, I resent her for essentially abandoning me as a teen to do her own thing. Leaving me to deal with typical teenage problems like bullying and school life. Not to mention my parents getting a divorce when I was 13, so I was left on my own.
It's basically being religious without being wise nor spiritual. Like in Dunning-Kruger effect, only reach 'Mount Stupid', just understanding Bible on surface level.
I've watched a YT video about religious leaders discussing many subject matters with scientists, and they are surprisingly open minded.
Can we talk about the dad (Jin) coming through every time with the understanding and knowledge?
The amount of diversity in the movies is, in fact, incidental. It is set in Toronto, a city of 3 million people, 50% are immigrants, 49% are non-white.
I loved the movie, i'm a 21 year old man, but around 13 i was in a very similar situation like Mei, so i saw a lot of myself in her and it was great , btw can you react to the movie “The Fallout”??
I love the fact that they address a lot of controversial topics here such as unnecessary ridicule, treating natural bodily functions as a terrible thing, generational trauma, etc. I'd say screw those people who think this movie is bad. It's clear these 'critics' do this sort of thing often as a part of their lives thinking it's perfectly normal when it's not.
As somebody who especially has autism, I sometimes get ridiculed for saying intelligent things. Or even respectfully speaking my mind. The common phrases of ridicule I hear is "No. I'll show you how the real world works, ---". "That's just your autism speaking" "Stop being sensitive". For the life of me, I could not keep track of how many times I've been hurt by this toxic mindset. Sometimes I feel like it had almost set me back once or twice when getting into adulthood.
But I'm a stubborn sort and ignore that garbage to the best of my ability XD.
I would love to see your insight to Encanto! I don't think I can watch it without sobbing unconditionally haha
This movie made me cry so much because it reminds me of me, my big sister and my mom. My mom did her best to raise us with what she had but she also struggles to see that despite that, there are so many things that she taught us (knowingly or unknowingly) that hurt.
I lover her so much and i also want to make her happy and not cause her problems like Mei-mei to her mother because it feels like a safe choice and there won't be disappointment, but because i did that, I'm scared of making mistakes or doing things that she wont like. I find it hard to breakout of that now because I've done it for so long that i only make choices that she would want me to make because I'm scared to fail.
My big sister on the other hand, has begun to openly express her resentment to her and my mom doesn't think she did anything wrong enough to have my sister react as she is, and hides behind the "i didn't have that when i was little" and thinks she's just holding on to anger that my sister "never got everything she wanted just because she wanted it".
My big sister never had room to make mistakes and was grounded all the time and I find it hard to attempt to do anything when i feel i have a higher chance to fail and never end up trying. And the last part where Ming apologized to Mei-mei? The acknowledgement that she did things that affected her and hurt her? Made me cry even more because that's all that you need sometimes to feel better, but somehow when my mom apologizes it feels like she's just saying it and not meaning it and thinks that it's good enough.
This was very long, super sorry ^^
What Ming Lee says in the end is all I’ve ever wanted to hear from my mother all my life. “If I taught you ____, I’m sorry” when she breaks down I never fail to cry, I’m going thru a lot of shit rn.
I find it interesting that the color red is a bad color in this movie but in Chinese culture, it’s a lucky color. I think red in this movie represents puberty along with the awakening of passionate emotions like love, anger, and embarrassment. Red represents change in the movie.
They talked about the red panda thing being lucky in china, too. It's just that it didn't fit the environment.
As you've said, red represents anger, embarrassment, puberty, change, luck in Chinese culture and the native red panda in China, but it's also prominent in the Canadian flag so in turn it also represents the essence of Canadian culture - a mosaic landscape of multiculturalism. A blend of one's heritage with one's upbringing, East meets West, acknowledgement of the importance of both in Mei's own personal identity. The reprise of Nobody Like You in the final scene, tied to the Cantonese chanting was a great example of this marriage between cultures. This movie was amazing.
The father DID state that Red was a Lucky Color. (included in this at 07:32)
i still dont understand why this is related to periods since all and all its basically about a mom being too overprotective and thinking the protagonist has period at first later on this doesn't get mentioned however, its basically hormonal changes in their psyche when puberty hits it not only periods but also the brains of the individual as well. I think the show focused on it however bruh those people saying this is sexual idk man (just think dudes and gals).
I heard someone say "IT SUCKS, STOP SAYING IT DOESN'T!" but i'm like, it doesn't suck, its a funny, interesting and fun movie. People will hate on a movie and then think that everyone else should feel the same way, and that their personal opinion is universal law. No chief, it ain't. As for people freaking out about periods, I got my period when i was 11, and my friend got hers at age 10. We're both Millennials and our parents are baby boomers who had no issue explaining periods and letting us know in advance what was going to happen at some point. It's hilarious and pathetic how periods are still a taboo subject today.
We still see it today how many WANT it to remain taboo.
A Right Wing politician that DID go on about the 3 P's, Menstrual equity/Period Poverty and shockingly supported a bill for free pads/tampons in public schools (good on him for at least trying to reduce the stigma and open up the conversation) - and yet it didn't pass because others on the Right saw it as "too liberal", the terms Menstrual equity/Period Poverty as too "woke" and the whole topic of allowing dignity for all and prevent missed school hours as “Why are our schools obsessed with the private parts of our children?"
Having grown up in an Asian household, I related to this film, to a certain extent anyway. Respecting the elders is big and the thought of disappointing parents in any way is unheard of.
This movie makes me sad but happy because I don’t have exactly the best relationship with my mother and seeing this movie broke my heart, especially seeing the ending…I’m glad to see you cover this
For the 4Town name, I just assume they came from four different towns. There's probably a completely different reason why the writers picked that name specifically, but as far as in-world logic goes, it makes the most sense. Even though I didn't notice how many until it was pointed out.
When it comes to periods... I remember being told what one was and how to mentally prepare for it by the school, but not one of the five adults in my household thought to have anything like pads for me. When it did arrive one school morning, I had to make do with a single liner gotten from the school's "special talk", failed attempts at putting in a tampon (the school itself did not have pads) and a heavy layer of toilet paper. I still vividly remember that afternoon, too: I was picked up by my father (typically, it was my grandfather who did this) and my aunt, taken to the supermarket where I was presented with a wall of sanitary products and told to choose despite not knowing what I needed. All whilst my usually emotionally distant father kept trying to hug me and moan how I'm no longer "his little girl". An all-around not good time.
When it came to my child, I was determined to ensure they were way more mentally prepared. They also had their own supply of pads. When they reached around the same age, they came directly to me with all the details and several queries they wanted more information on. That first time, I gave them several days off school and spent that time letting them just loaf around as they chose (I still do if they're cramping too much, including picking them up halfway through the day). For a while, they used to burst out of their room with the Jaws Theme playing on their phone as an announcement.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Especially your dad making it all about him, that’s unbelievable. Great on you for deciding to do better and putting in the effort to do better. ❤❤❤
The part that makes me cry the most is when Mei Mei leads her mother out of the forest. As someone who grew up having to be the family emotional dumping ground it brought up those memories
As you asked, here are some reactions from asian american/canadian creators to turning red :
Sophia Phan
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ANGELINA
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Xiran Jay Zhao
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Hope you find it interesting !
I neeed an Encanto reaction next - please!
You are the best! I love listening to you speak and learn something every time!
Totally love this movie, first off all the Toronto refernces as a Canadian. I love that as a teen they talk about periods in such a open way. I love that Sandra Oh voices the mother cause Sandra is one of my favorite actresses of all time. One of my friends who is Chinese brought up the movie and said they found the way they potrayed the family dynamisme too be very relatable especially the scene with the aunties, and the mother daughter fights. Great reaction
The whole movie took place in Toronto.
@@Kalani_Saiko ik
Before I say ANYTHING, I must state this. I am female to male transgender. I grew up female. My mom told me about "it" before it happened. I was terrified when she told me but when it happened, I was surprisingly calm.
when i was in the 2. elementary school year we had each week a chair circle where we would talk about our week. But there was this one week when our teacher was talking about periods instead of us talking as usual. Even tho the topic didn't touch me at all (or so i thought as a small boy ;) ) the whole thing stuck in my head and i asked my mom about it. she told me that one of the girls, who was coming from an extremely religious family, did get her first period quite early and didn't knew a thing so our teacher taught us all the basics.
It must have been terrifying for that girl and its really sad that she did talk about that with her teacher first and not the family.
I bet that kind of family is steering the "controversy" today...
I remember when I was nine, a few days after me and mom went to the hospital "for tests", the results said my body was more around twelve than nine, or something along the lines of that. She then confronted me about periods in kid terms and to the day of today i still believe she has some majestic intuition, because a month after i got my first one when grandma was babysitting us ❤
I wish I knew that it’s actually okay to set boundaries with my parents before 😢 I’m 25 with 2 kids and I still struggle to say no to my Mexican parents. If I say no or just give them my opinion, they think I’m talking back or being disrespectful. I hate that my parents never thought me how to be independent.
20:29 😆 20:39 biting 20:45-20:48 confrontations 21:49 headbutt 22:27 makes me want to cry 😿
If you notice a little detail, when Jin is talking to ming and she's about to break down, you see that all she can hear is his voice and her heart.
I'd love to see you react to Encanto, although given all the music that might be tough to edit.
Cool side note unrelated to psychology: the music is primarily done by Billie Eilish and her brother Fineas. (and also Ludwig Emil Tomas Göransson)
its not therapy related but a super (in my opinion) underrated joke in this movie is the grandma being upset about the '4' necklace, not because its for a boyband but because the number 4 is synonymous with death, and therefore unlucky. I thought it was a nice touch lol
I roll my eyes at lot of that criticism. Like the periods one, people clutching their pearls about this being discussed openly. Making something that is part of puberty for a lot of people...something that is natural, this shameful secret that shouldn't be discussed ever unless it's in an awkward conversation and in hushed whisperers. And god forbid there is the opposite sex present! Because I guess boys and men should like...never know about it and treat it as yucky and disgusting.
Unfortunately, the fans aren't much better. Every _Turning Red_ video I see, the comments are all like, "OMG, THEY MENTIONED PERIDOS? WOW, HOW PROGRESSIVE! NORMALIZE PERIODS!!!!" like... bruh, it's literally something that happens to *every* girl - why is that so hard to comprehend?
This movie touched something deep inside me, but I'm still unsure what that was. I just know it has affected me deeply and certain scenes, the part where they're driving home in the car and Ming reaches over to put her hand on her daughters; the part where Mei decides to keep her Panda; the part where she hugs her tail; and especially the part where she springs into the air and a big slow-motion look of sheer joy on her face as she becomes aware of what she can do, then running and jumping over the rooftops to go to the concert to make up with her friends makes me tear up every time. Just so damn beautiful. The part in the bamboo forest with Ming as a child and her speech to her daughter through the portal just destroys me every time. I think in time, this movie will be mentioned in the same breath as The Incredibles and Toy Story. Easily one of their best movies. So ridiculously good, it's untrue.
i feel like kids probably wont notice the contorversial par?
t, its very cute and colorful and I appreciated the detail and the authentic Chinese cultural references for the story origin.NIce review !
Thanks for the vid! I subscribed. I appreciate what you said about not commenting on how Mei and Ming react to each other in the beginning. I usually tell parents who criticize the film to watch it with their kids so they can talk about it later. It's great for growth. I don't really see anything wrong with the film.
This video has turned out to be one of my fav disney movies 🥺
react to Everything Everywhere all at once, its a chaotic but has a lot of deep meaning that touches your heart
And this is why Jin is the best father and a good character. Jin is our favorite character.☯️
I seriously think that's kind of continuation of Inside Out. Look, Inside Out ended when Rally was 12 years old and an extended control panel with a RED 'puberty' light is installed. In Turning Red, Mei is 13 and this light actually TURNS RED. Of course, there are also externalized emotions. People wondered how Inside out would have looked with those themes and now it turns out that is controvercial, but NO it's natural. What can Pixar discuss topics about trauma, death, killing, guns, betreyals, fraud, and not about puberty? Kids should know earier than it happens. I have to admit that trailers of turning red seemed to me not encouraging, but I watched movie and I love it. Pixar instead of focusing on deep metaphysical themes, this time it focused on a down-to-earth, inevitable topic.
The time of the action is also not accidental, 2002 was the year in which the current 33-year-olds were 13 years old and matured in those realities, and now they probably have their own 13-year-old children. This was to remind you of the times when they were teenagers and surely these awkward things happened to them and to understand the individuality of their child.
In 2002 I was 2 years old so I cannot fully identify with those realities xD, but I am in between these 2 decades and I have not "forgotten" yet what it is like to be at this age and this film is so accurate.
I also love that cultural references and generational trauma.
I was 11 and had the misfortune to get my menarche when I was at my grandmothers. I’d spent much of my childhood there. Now, my grandmother was an alcoholic and housebound as a consequence. Her reaction was to hand me some money and send me to the local corner shop to ask the male shop keeper for a packet of pads. It was mortifying. Nana’s been dead for more than 40 years, now, and I still can’t quite forgive her for that.
Your hair looks so cute!!
The mother as a teen in the bamboo forest, man, that got to me. sniff.
Can you do encanto?! I was surprised by that film, the family dynamics are really messed up and I would love to see your interpretation!
Not Gonna Lie: legitimately surprised there hasn't been a reaction to "Encanto" on your channel. Most of that family could benefit from an evaluation...
Absolutely on the list! Movies are harder for our team to do reacts to because of the length but I love Encanto and can’t wait to talk about it. 😍
Long ago, the Four Towns lived in harmony. But all that changed when the Fire Panda Nation attacked
The funniest thing about the movie is that Mei DIDN'T have her period. She still have to go through all of that xD
Honestly when I watched the movie I never thought the red panda could be menstruation, I thought it was the stage of developing as a teen psychologically, growing out of childhood (i am nothing close to an expert tho). Maybe it was because I was studying for a psych exam where we talked about the mournings of the teenager, their childhood bodies, their role as kids and their parents. I saw these things in the movie, the body is different, bigger, stronger and sometimes is super weird to get used to your own bodie when you get taller or gain weight during that stage, also the breaking point with the parents, the boundaries and the limits "this is me // this is you. I loved it. Loved this movie, cried, laughed, it was GREAT
It IS a puberty/growing out of childhood but not yet being an adult metaphor, but in people AFAB, that generally goes hand in hand with first Menses and boobs.
Same with mom and daughter in Brave..
Have you ever considered doing a crossover with Cinema therapy
I realised something a few weeks ago that i havent seen anyone talk about(correct me if im wrong). The mom's Panda ends up ik a tamagochi right? A TAMAGOCHI. She is seen taking care of it. And by principle you have to take care of it to keep it alive. I wonder if this is a metaphor for the mom finally taking care of her inner self and her childhood trauma...🥲💔
Guys, get this, I’m a 15 yr old girl now, and my best friend is a boy and also my age.
My younger sister was menstruating once, and (it wasn’t my idea) my mom decided to let him know of this to tell him why she couldn’t participate in today’s activities. And that’s the day I learned that he was 13/14 ish when he first learned about periods. From my mom 🤦🏻♀
such a great analysis
SPOT ON
I don't get the drama around this movie, because from what I've been told... parents where ALREADY LIKE THAT GROWING UP (Or even WORSE) back then. They were exposed to more things and a lot of their things weren't censored..So people are just looking for reasons to be mad about something like this.
Hazing seen the full thing but I love it already
could you react to billie eilish’s documentary 🥲 she touches so much on depression and mental health
A lot of people think generational trauma has to take back decades ago, but that's not always true. Movies like this prove that generational trauma can exist in the modern world beyond just what people think.
Hi! Can you please react to the movie "the fallout"? I really liked watching you talk about Euphoria and I think that this movie is kinda similar.
The "I didn't went to concert", could it be jealousy ?
If you haven’t already, could you react to Encanto?
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On a personal level I wasn't that big of a fan of the "Are you a triangle, 'cause you acute" because yeah, it was catcalling, even if it seemed consensual. A good scene from a filmmaking and just being honest about middle schoolers perspective though.
have you seen Encanto yet, another good movie to breakdown
It's 4 town because they are from different towns and 2 of them are brothers
4Town is called 4 town because Robaire plans on being a solo artist
It's 4 town when there is five members because they are 4 the town
If Disney movie about Filipino they're gonna be trauma
(I'm sorry about my bad spelling)
Do you have any tips on how I can manage my detachment with my womanhood? My boobies don't feel like they are a part of me and I am unable to get my period without getting emotionaly wrecked. I am 23 now and all this started at around 12. Is this normal? Do I need more time?
I would speak about this with a doctor just to be safe. You feeling horrible is not really normal and you could have something going on. You shouldn’t have to live in misery if you can change it or make educated choices to lessen it.
@@ladycobrana852 I am not in pain, thankfully, this is more psychological related. No one takes me seriously, so I just wait it out for now and take the pill everyday to not bleed.
@@leaflet1686 You should really ask a doctor, like I have a similar thing called PMDD that was diagnosed by my gyno. Not saying you have to same thing but you should really ask a doctor.
I wish i had a Jin dad growing up T_T . My father wasn't exactly the ideal parent especially coming from a divorced home. My father liked to be Mr Fun times on the weekends but as i grew up and found my own thing and discovered more about myself my father became more and more distant from me. I've tried on a few occasions in the past to try and extend a bridge to him but he doesn't do things unless their on his terms. He hasn't even tried to speak to me much since I came out of the closet as Homosexual. The last time he was in town i couldn't see him because i had made plans with friends a month in advance and i couldn't cancel. Dad kept telling my sisters how much he wanted to see me but he made no other attempt to actually see me after that. Everything has to be on his terms and he's never tried to find compromise with me.
Talk to your father and let him know how he makes you feel. He will listen. Allow yourself to listen to him, too.
I adore this video from you and your perspective!!! It definitely spoke to me so much even as a non chinese canadian non girl LOL
You mentioned looking for reactions and I recommend this one from a chinese youtuber - th-cam.com/video/5JPALrP2-2o/w-d-xo.html
I haven’t watched it yet. Puzzled there was controversy the film had a PG-13 rating. What age do people think girls experience menarche? Soo much ignorance out there.
A great and fun movie.
Please react to Wandavision, queen!!!
Maybe this is just my literal mindedness kicking me again, but why does everyone keep asking why are they called 4town? Perhaps they came from four different towns. It is not called 4dudes or the quartet or anything no one asks why there are not 41 people in sum 41. Gosh Blink 182 would insanity.
I love you!!
Did you hop out of the grill? Because that hair is FIRE!
Loved this ♥
becuse every boyband in the 90s early 2000 had boybands with 5 members
She is beautiful
The film is mostly good, but very controversial
Great movie
Heal yourself
Turning red isn’t controversial. People just obviously dont know how teenage girls are especially at 12-15..i remember girls loved justin Bieber and hardy styles and would scream over them. Like be so fr!!! Its VERY VERY realistic and just because u dont align with the culture of mei mei doesnt mean u cant align with the teenage aspect
Personally, I blame girls not knowing about periods until they get them on them being neurotypical. Neurotypical kids *hate* learning about the world - they're always questioning why we need to learn state capitals, or mitochondria, or how to play the piano, asking why they're ever going to need all that knowledge in life. And then they *claim* they'd rather learn important stuff like taxes and how to get a job, but in reality they just prefer to memorise fictional creatures like Magcargo and Geodude.
I think it bc others around girls stigmatize puberty and sex ed to the points girls are embarrassed to ask about their changing bodies.