L Ron Hubbard | Life & Death | Mental Health & Personality
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- This video answers the questions: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the life and death of L. Ron Hubbard?
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And that's the story of how Dr. Grande ended up on the Scientology watchlist.
Oh don't say that. I don't want Dr. Grande to be disappeared.
He better delete this right now!!
Funny. True. And sad 😂
I’m sure Dr Grande is already on the watchlist, given his profession. (Scientologists are the only people qualified to tell you about your brain, mind, emotions, behaviour, motivations, etc.)
They probably following him around with video cameras and harassing him to death right now.
"Hubbard's mother"....so...Mother Hubbard?
😂😂😂😂😂
hehehee
Being brought up in a cupboard would warp anyone.
I lol’ed
😂🥴
Would be interesting to hear Dr. Grande's take on the current leader of Scientology, David Miscavige.
Oh, definitely. Miscavige definitely has enough stuff going on to fill one, and possibly two, episodes.
I agree, I would enjoy hearing more abt David M.
I don't think Dr Grande wants to be stalked, harassed and sued by the cult David leads.
@@andrewl.8626 Well he might not have mentioned Miscavige personally, but he most definitely criticized the cult he leads, including its founder, L. Ron Hubbard.
I would love it too.
Got to give Hubbard credit for one thing -- he was one of the greatest conmen of all time.
He and Trump are birds of a feather.
@@Duh6666666 lol you beat me too it
@@Duh6666666 As I was listening to this, the parallels kept popping up! There are many.
Trump clearly outdid Hubbard on the biggest con award.
You have no F'ing clue what you are talking about. But actually in one way you are right. Your "Hubbard" is now the CNN, fake news, and the rest of the 24-7 political activist talking heads and comedians.
You are mentally enslaved from the leftist cult and you don't even know it yet (until now hopefully after your read this).
Having been in SCN ten years and then studying cults and political system history thereafter to understand how they work and tie in I know something of the subject.
Here are the hallmarks of a cult (the art of which Hubbard mastered, what totalitarians like Stalin, etc., use):
1) Closed information system. This is our USA main stream press that follows a scripted narrative. Why they repeat the same stuff, and the same time in unison. This includes not only manufacturing the narrative you are supposed to think, but excluding parts that would counter it.
Unlike 1934, or pre internet for SCN, there is no Hearst newspaper network, isolated TV news, etc. Today we have the internet (what you are reading) so the tactics have changed a bit. Just telling you what to think is not enough, you are shammed, grouped in to the "right" or "wrong" (I.E. "racist") thinking group, etc.
The main social networks have joined in on this as well by mass censorship and manipulation of search results, bring what they want you to read to the top of threads, etc.
You are to be considered a "conspiracy theorist", "your racist", etc., if you dare not follow along.
The internet is both a conduit for the controlled narrative, but also a bane or the cult masters as they can not shut you off from other communication (like mine).
2) Double speak (the 1984 book stuff). And generally redefining of words and using terminology to steer you to think in the way someone else wants you too. This stuff sort of twists your mind and gets you to otherwise throw out commons sense, and/or confuse you with the idea that there is a duality of truths. There are gray areas between distinct and related concepts, but two or more opposing truths can not exist at the same time (can only be truth or untruth, not both).
3) Human nature. The only reason cult techniques work on people is the human nature element. We have a mind that is like a super computer that is able to associate memories, etc., but still doesn't quite think like a computer. It's still an animal brain.
And like most mammals we are social animals. Naturally I/we will tend to believe what people tell us. You don't expect people to lie to you, you don't expect that a person might be a sociopath, etc. Generally people want to be loved and accepted by others. And people are very suggestable; myself included.
To get past this you must be educated that such people exist and rules on how to detect and handle them.
To get past our own limitations with associative memories, and handle our animalistic often emotionally driven responses to get past manifested logical fallacies, one must learn how to "critically think"; use the logical centers of brain to choose the best meaning and choosing the best actions.
When you join a group collective with the above components it supports it's self like a machine. You wind people up with what you want them to think and how to behave and let it go. Then reinforce it with 24-7 the same narratives.
Without writing a book, that's it in a nutshell.
This being said. Lets look what President Trump said most of the time. Not what is spun of what he said of what he ACTUALLY said and DID. Since I watched him actually speak, I would see him say "I'm going to drop the taxes because this will actually stimulate the economy". Sure enough he did this. True to his word he dropped taxes and I personally saw more of my own income to spend (as it should be). And sure enough the stats are the country was doing better than ever. I can personally attest to it too without even having to research the stats. Everything was better pre Obama days.
Then lets consider what Trump actually wrong to the country. He didn't that I can think of. Nothing major anyhow. He pretty much helped every citizen and industry across the board. Promoted industry, small and large business, etc.
Now lets compare that to the "Democrat-Biden leftist media mind cult" DBLMC for short.
Take anyone starting from Biden, to Harris, Pelosi, AOC, etc., and watch what they say and how the media reinforces what ever they say as the official narrative as gospel.
What ever they say they are for, or the resulting outcome of what they say they are doing is usually the opposite.
And they constantly lie to us. All on video as proof.
The cult part comes in with all the gaslighting, and the psi-ops to either getting you to overlook what these people are doing to you and our country, and/or to hide their constant mistakes.
And constantly attacking Trump 24-7. He's literally been called everything from Hit-ler to a dictator, to a dog hater, etc.
Still Biden and these people are blaming everything on Trump.
You were told by many simultaneous voices 24-7 that there was all this "wrongness", "strife", "discontent", when it was only in the minds of those that hated Trump and those that resented that they were loosing their grip over you.
Ask yourself this, why do they keep attacking him when he's not even the President anymore? What are they afraid off.
Are you sure you are not in the cult, are you sure your feelings about President Trump actually yours?
I come for the mental health analysis, but I stay for the dry wit :D
He could make 💵💵💵.
I came for the dry wit and learned something new during my stay.
He has a great delivery.
I could consider it mental awareness session 😁🇺🇸
Me too!!! 🤓
Look squirrel 🐿
Look aliens 👽 lol
I think this deserves a video on Tom Cruise and Scientology.
Is John Travolta on too?
Yes! *jumps on couch with excitement 😂
Let’s do one on doctor Grande
Dr. Grande summarized Tom Cruise in the video. There nothing more about him.
@@mrparlanejxtra BOO!
Who's here before the Scientologist bots start spreading their propaganda?
Wait, is this a trick? R u THE BOT!!??
👻👻👻👻😊
Oh ya lol. But technically, unless you’re a celeb member, you can’t be on the internet. Celebs get special perks. It’s what entices them
@Romanticide it's one thing you're better off without!
I forgot that Kirstie was married to Parker Stevenson from the Hardy Boys. Whatever happened to him ?
@@justine7083 i think shes busy with trump twitter atm 😂
"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard
Or a megachurch, either one will work
where's todd: Right after saying that, he said "The second best way to gt rich is to start a religion." He said thede th9ings during an interview for a sci-fi zine beofre he statred scientology or Dianetics.
He later started Scientology, a religion, and then Dianetics, which he called a sceince.
There is actually no evidence that L. Ron Hubbard ever wrote or said that. One guy claims to have heard him say that, but anybody can say that they heard somebody else say something. It's just hearsay.
No. Christianity is Truth while Scientology is a satanically powered cult. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
Is it mega church a bit like a mega pint?
@@EBR1 Oh stop.
They’ll come out of the woodwork to brand you as a ‘Suppressive Person’ for this one
Suppressive. Lololololol 😭
that's a compliment to me
That's a badge of honor
Truly a badge of honor, but, in Scientology a 'Suppressive Person' who is speaking out is perceived as a severe threat. Many people have had horrible, unethical and illegal attacks from this organization with the intent to literally destroy them. Evil. Okay, I guess that makes me a Suppressive now...
@@michaelwagner8859 yeah, basically they view anyone who even questions the church as suppressive. It’s one of the most idiotic ‘religions’ on the planet
OH SNAP! When Dr. G risks Scientology backlash, I click immediately. ❤️
The voice of reason speaking quietly about the ridiculous unscientific scam perpetrated on the under educated and susceptible! As always a masterful video worth listening to more than once! Bravo!
Excuse me? This guy is a quack.
@@justinlavine9209 how so 🤔
@@justinlavine9209 have we found the Scientologist?
I can't understand why anyone with half a functioning brain would join Scientology. A friend of mine tried to get me to join Scientology and my response was to run the other way. My friend has spent tens of thousands of dollars on classes. In 2002, she told me she was saving up to take a class that would enable her to levitate and walk through walls. It took every ounce of self-control I possessed not to break into laughter.
I’m not a Scientologist, but have met a few, & I’ve lived with ex-Scientologists…I wouldn’t say either group are undereducated. Scientology actually appeals to people who are intellectual, because initially they love the idea of science in the teachings. This explains the nature of man & gives an intellectual cure to mens foibles (the process is called clearing) . The “clearing” is done with a scientific looking machine, that yields data which is very believable. Scientology sells itself with intellectual seduction. 🤔 Many join , then figure it out after a bit, others stay due to a sense of belonging, or guilt, or contracts, or threats & potential harassment. Then many smart people grow up in it, like Leah Remini & they eventually recognize that the “religion” is about power & control, rather than spirituality. Why the stars stay is different, since they are treated like royalty & have tremendous drawing power to the org..
“You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.” ― L. Ron Hubbard ".
Epic
Considering he had a habit of typing on rolls of butcher paper and never bothered with more than 1draft, probably not.
Well, he was right about one thing, have to give him that.
He also told people when he decided to turn Dianetics into a cult that he was “going to sell people a patch of blue sky”. He was always a huckster
Scientific proof he wasn't crazy...
"Battlefield earth is considered one of the worst movies ever made but amazingly, this still does not capture just how bad it was " I'm dying 😂😂😂
Barry Pepper's career never recovered from that movie.
Battlefield earth should have been a Tyler Perry movie
The book is way better than the movie
The only thing worse I can think of is “Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas” 😂
The movie is worse than garbage, the book however is quite enjoyable for any science fiction fan and I would recommend you read it if you do in fact enjoy sci fi. The description of Psychlo's (the invading alien race) in the book is nothing like the representation in the movie. In order to do justice to the book it would require a massive budget and a Lucas, Jackson type director. I believe it "could" be on the level of Star Wars or LOTR. I wouldn't call myself a Hubbard fan per se, although I have also read the ten books of the Mission Earth series and enjoyed that as well. There are some disturbing themes in these books that could point to Hubbards overall mental state and Scientology has a quite dubious history and rightly so. A destructive cult if ever there was one. Imagine paying a quarter of a million for the secret of Lord Zenu, that's a face in palm moment.
When I was 18, I was struggling to pay my college tuition and raise a family, and so I applied for a receptionist job at the Church of Scientology in Austin. I had no idea what Scientology even was, but after I was hired, I quickly found that it was very odd to say the least. They would pull me from my job for a couple of hours a day to give me personality, IQ tests, and various courses--such as better ways to study--and I'd have to pass those courses. They had told me that my pay would be based on a percentage according to ranking within the group, and when my first paycheck was less than $10.00, I was shocked. I suddenly had kidney stones and took a couple of days off and when I returned, they hit me up with meters and little cups connected to tubes. With that and my next pay check, which was lower than the first, I quit.
Oh my! Wonderful story. I remember in the 1960's, people were thought to "disappear"in Sierra Madre, after getting in trouble with the Scientologists.
You had a lucky escape!!
Lol that's some funny stuff thanks for that laugh.
Lucille, looking back, that was the wisest decision you could have made.
No use going to Stupidology without any money, they're in the usiness of making money, not giving it away, still, you had a lucky escape
Does anyone else find Dr. Grande's voice and manner of speech very soothing and relaxing?
@Lindsay Antwine! Isn't that the truth! I want him for MY therapist!
It’s ASMR esque
Somewhat. I mean, he's no Gilbert Godfrey but id tend to agree. Gilbert's voice is the definition of soothing, relaxing and smooth as butter though you know?
I always listen in bed
@@daisymoonmccool8769 i, agree, but, there, are, a few, o, t, h, e, r, s, that ar, e , smooth,.,.
"5 hours into that voyage, he attacked what turned out to be a magnetic deposit, believing it was an enemy submarine. This attack lasted 68 hours. I guess the good news was that he taught that magnetic deposit a lesson."
DEAD. 💀🤣 I lost it, how did you keep such a straight face when you said that??
lol he could have started WW3,the guy was incompetent to say the least🤡💀
His dry sarcasm is world-class 😂 😂 😂
When does he say that?
As an Oregonian I would like to thank Mr. Hubbard for his brave service against that magnet deposit, damn things been siiting around the Pacific NW like they own the place for far too long.
@@MrRobertFarr 3:30
L. Ron Hubbard was another warning to all of us…. but as always; we tend to never listen. It is amazing that he got as far as he did.
It’s amazing his ramblings are still being followed and generating sweet, sweet cash.
Many of us could accomplish amazing things if we just had no conscience and no shame.
There seems to always be a market for a con artist.
Official Acknowledgment-United Nations Society of Writers: In recognition of L. Ron Hubbard as a great science fiction writer of the twentieth century.
@@nadinewhite993and it starts in Washington smh 🙃
It’s amazing how busy crazy people are.
This should be top comment, dude. The World in a few words... 🥴
This might be the single best comment I've ever read on youtube. And at least two or three other places too. How does this not have more upvotes?
They ride on pure mania energy
Sometimes it's also amazing how crazy busy people are.
Even more amazing how crazy busy people are.
Let’s talk about the CEOs wife missing for years Shelly Miscavige ? I watched the Leah Remini Aftermath of Scientology and this is a horrible cult full of lies and hate.
Sloan Bella /psychic,medium/ did a video on what she has picked up about the wife’s energy
@@annagalka274 how interesting! You can always rely on 'psychic mediums' to jump on any passing bandwagon. They're even bigger frauds than Hubbard.
Kidnapping seems to be one of their specialties. It has been suggested that in his last years Hubbard himself was held in seclusion by the people who eventually took over. It's also possible that by then he was either mentally ill or demented, but the Scientology mind-set would not allow them to recognise that.
@@faithlesshound5621 they didn't want their leader exposed. Plus some believe that by this point others were really in charge.
Me, too. How can this “mystery” be allowed to continue?
A cousin of mine used to be the personal body guard of Hubbard. He went to Scientology hoping to find relief with PTSD from 'Nam. Ended up being in a cult, and finding difficulty getting himself, and his family out of it.
My nan was a slave to the Russians in World War II, survived but of course she didn't come out of it completely normal, mentally. She met someone who introduced her to the matter and did all those stupid fucking tests with her and made her believe all kinds of bullshit her family and normal friends then had to deal with. Thank fuck this person is dead now but there are two more weirdos she's around who still breathe scientology. She also nurtured my early onset psychosis with her Hubbard crap when I was young so I had to heal from that too which isn't the easiest journey. I love her so much but I wish she wouldn't have gotten into contact with those disgusting people.
So pleased that he was able to escape...
Oh my God that's terrible and I'm sorry this happened.
My grandpa was onboard the USS Missouri during WWII and one Halloween when I was little I dressed up like a Commando. I went to show him my costume and he said “Don’t you ever sign up for the military”. He saw first hand the aftermath of the bombs and even got to see the Emperor of Japan surrender his sword aboard the ship he was on. He didn’t talk about it. I only found this out through my Uncle. I hope your cousin found some peace ❤
@@turekjames1274 Dat soon?
I was in the Celebrity Center once. I was a Medical Social Worker with the VNA Hospice. Our patient was a Scientologist with terminal cancer. She assured me that she would be healed. As we talked people came into the room as if on cue. I felt uneasy but they only smiled more. Love Bombing without the love, I thought. They all agreed that she would beat the cancer. I expected to be offered koolaid. I was relieved to be shown the door. There is nothing scarier than six or seven strangers gazing at you with unconditional love.
Oh believe me, it was not unconditional love.
I nursed one in the inpatient psych unit. I will never forget this poor lost soul. I rang them, I said he wants a visit what time can you come? They said we won't, we don't deal with that type of condition. Will never forget.
Poor guy!!
So sad but so true!
I would be quite interested in a separate video focusing on L. Ron Hubbard's successor, David Miscavige. I've long suspected dangerous pathology with him that is of a darker nature than Hubbard's, characterized by such features as megalomania, paranoia, manipulative, controlling, and obsessive tendencies, vindictiveness, and even outright sadism. I would love to hear your thoughts, doc. Thanks.
Things will not end well for mister m.
@@markmarco2880 I certainly hope not. I would love to see him meet his comeuppance and take a hard fall. And if there's any chance that Shelly is still alive, what I wouldn't give to hear her spill the tea on David and divulge everything that has really been going on at the "church" this entire time.
I'm afraid you're spot on. And Dave is a huge success, more than the Tomster. All that free labor..
Where is this man? I wish to go and worship him.
And St John Travolta.
Your analysis was much “nicer” than I expected.
“Running out of ink for more diplomas” was pretty good!
Try reading reviews for some of the "real," accredited universities. Ouch.
He is very kind, or, at least impartial in all of his videos. Running out of ink also caused coffee to come out of my nose. Unexpected humor!!
@@DarkbutNotsinister The unexpected humour sneaks up on us. 👍
Scientology is notoriously litigious
I remember a man I dated when I was 18. He carried the Dianetics book with him everywhere. He was VERY forceful about trying to get me to read it. I kept saying no. I came home one day and he left the book by my door 🙄 I never read it and never dated him again 😂
talk about dodging a bullet!
@@poindextertunes "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a cult!" LOL.
THE MAD LAD DID IT! You, sir, are a f*cking hero! Everybody, form a human shield around Dr Grande. Don't worry, Dr Grande, we'll protect you from the Scientologists!
Nice platitude but you will do nothing to protect him so just shut b up.
@@lynnfisher3037 You should get to know Jesus. You'll be so much happier.
@@lilyw.719 jesus is just alright with me
@@lilyw.719 You should get to know Thor. Then you would be happy.
I love the deadpan humour, especially apt when Scientology doesn't like humour. One of Chris Shelton's videos interviewed a mental health professional who thought Hubbard had temporal lobe epilepsy that accounted for his huge output. My only concern about your video Dr Grande is that Scientology isn't going to like you for this and they may target you with surveillance and harassment. They're a nasty lot and they don't take criticism too well. Destroying people's lives is what they do best.
I’ve seen some videos about that. It’s up to Scientology to change my mind. I believe it. It’s been 5 months since your comment. Is there an update?
Scientology SHITBALLSDAMNPENISVAJ is not a religion and I want to know where David’s wife is.
Sorry about that outburst, I have Tourette’s Syndrome.
@@YTInnovativeSolution 😂😂😂
I think Scientology has fallen on pretty hard times. They still have large real-estate holdings, but their membership has fallen drastically due to exposés by famous ex-members. I don't know if they still file frivolous lawsuits either.
@@YTInnovativeSolution Sadly still no news on his wife.
Oh, deadpan.
This is an excellent overview of L. Ron Hubbard's life. It surprised me how much of his rubbish ideas have infiltrated the social consciousness.
You writiing bullshit Milosz
But you are actually writing bullshit Milosz
The doctor’s casual disses are the reason I live. “He also learned to do research without a brain.” Dead...
Scientology is a cult. Makes Jim Jones look normal. Jim was a murderer of over 1000 people.
Drag queens could take notes on the doc's ability to throw subtle but savage shade.
@@sweetpotatofries99 Oh hell yes. This. Savage is definitely the right adjective.
Yes. I add his lethal snark to my regular mental health care. It's ice cold healing.
Wow. I had no idea my psychiatrists were all aliens... I just thought they were nice people with gigantic student loan debts...
This may be true, but all realtors are also aliens.
@@TheFirstManticore What about their comrades the banksters? They live in a different world and a higher realm.
Just found this channel and it's the most interesting YT channel I've come across in a very very long time. Bravo Dr Grande.
We love Todd here within his subscriber base.
Just did a quick read on Quentin Hubbard, his son that died. Poor kid, I can't even imagine having LRH as a father figure/parent.
After many years, myself and some other mutual friends realized that our friend "K" has paranoid schizophrenia. She cut us off for many years before re-establishing contact. I PM'd her son on Facebook. He describes living in a madhouse, with unpredictable temper episodes, bizarre actions, and more-- all of which made him suicidally depressed and constantly stressed.
There was animal hoarding at one time, which resulted in either the deaths of all the pets at once or (more likely) their seizure by govt authorities (which in her delusions, she has rewritten to be that her son killed them all). We cannot be certain because no one knows what is real, when looking at her stories of events. She also definitely killed a dog while younger, because she thought her father was trying to hurt the dog, so she kept it in her car while at work one day-- while the Chicago-area summer weather was already dangerously hot. (It was this episode that caused me to be glad for her cutting me out of her life at that time.)
Her son ran away from home to escape her, and cut off ties to his entire family, who either did not want to openly admit to her mental illness, or who just didn't seem to want to do anything to help (her or even him😡). He has taken to doing stand-up comedy as one outlet for his childhood, but he is much healthier and happier for having gotten away from her.
Interestingly, she (like Hubbard) has found success hiding her mental illness by compartmentalizing friends and changing jobs and residences often. When there is long-term exposure to her, then her mental issues become obvious. Because (until recently) she kept friendships with people who didn't talk to one another much, no one could compare notes to realize her claims were so dramatic, illogical, and delusional. By only feeding people one bite at a time, we all believed what she was saying-- until we started comparing notes.
She has repeatedly refused mental health treatment, because she doesn't want to be thought of as "crazy." But this has caused us to break off contact with her again. At least this time, prior to cutting off ties, we were able to make contact with local govt agencies and make them aware of her issues.
Wow.... Insane manic life story...
Excellent, like a complete biography in under 20 minutes...three gold stars
Dr. Grande knocks them out of the park almost every day! First thing I check for every morning and evening is to see if he posted a new video!
This one earned the sub! Possibly the most succinct overall review of the LRH in under 20 minutes. Impressive. I've been diving research into this man for well over 7 yrs since learning of Lisa McPhearson's demise at the hands of care takers and Miscavage. In short the Doc is in on the mark! Job well done sir! Could not have said it better myself!
Oh look! A squirrel. I laughed right out loud at that one. He was clearly in need of the thing he hated most: psychiatry. Thank you Dr Grande. 👍🌹
Me too!
Psychiatry is not scientific other than the chemists coming up with the drugs
well put Tom.
@@ToyotaTom04 Psychiatry as a science is in it's infancy. But it is 100% more scientific than Scientology.
Now I'm just addicted to Dr. Grande. I can't wait everyday to see who he's speculating about. We're never disappointed. Again, the variety of personalities are awesome! Thank you, Dr. Grande. ( I love the commenters as well ✌️)
Agreed -these are great commenters!
Dr. Grande is very indifferent, informative, and I adore his corny jokes and innocent sense of humor. There have been many commentaries that I have prior knowledge about and I am not aware of any erroneous discrepancies so far. Thanks Dr. Grande for doing the homework and delivering it to us so often.
Even me and I only discovered him on the first January 2022
Oh yeah👍🏻😁
Very interesting exposé on Dianetics/Scientology, Dr Grande. We were in London on business (we live in Dublin, Ireland) and saw a Dianetics board outside a hall. We went in out of curiosity. At that time it was still Dianetics and they talked about aliens a lot. Don't remember much, tbh, except that it was very difficult to leave. There was a lot of pressure put on me and my husband to join up. We really dodged a bullet there.
I did read one or two stories written by Hubbard. He was a pretty good writer. "Typewriter in the Sky" was an excellent novella. Pity he didn't stick to that rather than perpetrating a gigantic scam and ruining so many people's lives.
As always, loving the dry wit and subtle shade you throw.
Omg...lol..I talk about that kind of stuff because of the political environment. Dem's and Republicans have seen weird lights in the sky. Plus no one is offended by your comments.
I'm sure the tragic stories are endless. I had a secretary back in the early 80s who basically lost everything she owned to Scientology.
A funny thing happened on my way to joining the Red Cross... I decided to found a cult.
As someone who is Catholic and does have therapists, my church has always encouraged me to seek medical treatment. The idea now is that mental illness is a physical illness. Doctors are skilled in treating that, and religion helps, but they work together. We aren't given these tools just to laugh in God's face and beg him to heal us when we get too sick. No, you're supposed to use what you've been given, and seek his counsel during treatment.
Amen 🙏 from one Catholic to another.
“He taught that magnetic deposit a lesson.” Lol
The DSM classification of L Ron is clearly Raving Loony, or, two stops short of Dagenham (Barking).
Actually, my father ( with no medical training) was the first to come up with this diagnosis, having been trapped in the next seat on a 10 hour flight.
OMG, your Dad... how many years of therapy did he need to heal from that horrible experience?? Bless his heart, what a trooper.
I always thought L. Ron Hubbard wrote Scientology up as a prospective science-fiction novel. When he saw that people were latching onto it he was sort of like “Oh is this a thing?“ And then ran with it.
Yes, his book “Excalibur” (paraphrased title) was much like you describe, that is, a fantasy from which eventually came the diatribe he entitled “Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health”. This was an idea that could actually float at the time it came out, 1950, a time when society was hungry for a new “spiritual” narrative. LRH then used every trick in the book - to build an army of “believers”.
Person:"That guy who founded Mormonism was such a con-man"
Hubbard: Hold my beer
Trump: Let me try. 😎
@@coppersky Try is the key word. 🙃
@@coppersky Cultist
Trump to Hubbard “hold my Diet Coke”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My self-proclaimed "intelligent" aunt was a dingbat who believed his crap.
She ended up living with her mother in a "Grey Gardens" type of lifestyle.
She was a pleasant person, but I wouldn't trust her to find her way out of a porta-potty. Thank you Dr. Grande for another religious experience. ;)
Like your dingbat comment, haven’t heard that one for a while.🙂
That's sad... Sorry that happened😰
So much for being “intelligent” which means very little.
I wonder if “dingbat” can be used to describe men too or is one used especially on women.
@@paulabrown6840 It's not gender-specific. "Dingbat" can be used describe any eccentric person, however it tends to be used particularly for older people that either on their way to losing it or already have lost it.
“He could have gotten several doctorates, but they ran out of ink” nothing like a good morning belly laugh 😂😂😂😂 gotta love Dr. G!
If Dr. Grande disappears, we know the Scientology Ninjas got him.
Seriously, Scientology has a history of persecuting people in outrageous ways, people who expose this cult. While I praise Dr. Grande for this video, I hope he doesn't become targeted...
Dr. Grande has seen Hell. It's the people sent after him who need to worry.
@@peculiarlittleman5303 "You're locked in here with me" -Dr. Grande before shanking a ninja.
@@michaelwagner8859 He just might receive some propaganda from them. They're very persistent and defensive.
@@melindac3368 Undoubtedly...it will be interesting... If they try to discredit him, though, I hope Dr. Grande's fan base can help make sure those efforts backfire!!
As much as scientology bashes psychiatry this is an EPIC troll!! Well done!
I enjoyed the book "Battlefield Earth" back in the 80's, when I was in my early 20's and had no idea who Hubbard was. I thought he was simply a great pulp writer. Maybe he was too good at it, and saw that creating images in people's minds could be much more profitable in a different setting than fiction. Anyway, as a fan of the book, I actually paid money to see the damn movie in the theater. I must say that while I have seen worse movies, I am having difficulty coming up with any of them at the moment.
It will be a tv series believe me once everyone has had enough of Star Wars
My brother and I were little kids when we saw it and thought it was the dumbest thing ever. Tried watching it again as an adult with my husband (we're both Sci fi dorks) thinking I'd "get it" but no, it remains awful. Def in my top 2 list of worse movie ever.
I worked in LA with a few guys whose girlfriends were heavy into Scientology, and what struck me was their having "all the answers to the questions" attitude. Sort of like country club wives that never watch the news, never volunteer, never see out side their little circle, but have all the worlds' solutions right at their finger tips. It's a TYPE.
ahh yes, insufferable pseudo intellectual karen’s. you find them in the inner circles of hell.
Very accurate
Yup. Echo chamber
Some people don't like uncertainty. Cults give them certainty.
“Good schools run out of money, bad schools run out of ink”. Got it.
Dr. Grande is definitely an SP now
LOL!!!
This man needs an auditing! His Thetan levels are through the roof!
Dr. Grande was an SP already based on what he does.
Hey: Just K.S.W., okay?
@@mlovmo kifflom!
I was trying to buy his book (Dyanetics) back in the day at Walden Books, the store clerk asked me if I was a Christian, I replied that I was, she said Honey you don't want this book. I bought the damn book anyway. She was right I shouldn't have bought that ridiculous POS book!!!
I'd complain to the business. That's like some clerk who doesn't sell undergarments asking me what my bra size is.
@@BeckBeckGo Maybe the woman had the same bra in the same size as you and it hurt her when she wore it because of the wire or something, so she sees you eyeing up the same one and says 'you don't want that bra, honey'.... You'd waste everyone's time complaining to a manager about it?? OK Karen
I borrowed it from a Library once and couldn't get past Page 3. It is unmitigated rubbish.
Dianetics has NOTHING to do with true biblical christianity...she was right!!!
To be fair, the Bible is also trash.
Frank Zappa referred to him as _"L. Ron Hoover from the Church of Appliantology."_ Zappa even created an entire rock opera album called "Joe's Garage" which used brilliant musicality infused with hilarious satire, all centered around Mr. Hubbard, err...Hoover. I highly recommend giving it a listen.
Back in the 60's I was just a kid reading a sci-fi story he wrote. All I remembered about it was the main character was a man who watched his two cats die a horrible death from some goo that came from snow. It was so sick (not in a good way) that I made a note of who the author was and promised myself not to read any more of his books.
It was a good decision
Might have saved your life
“Dianetics” was highly repetitive nonsense. I threw it out
You are so right. See my comment above!
@@themurrrr Priceless.
I remember seeing it advertised on TV when I was a kid; this would have been around 1981, '82.
Glad I never read it; I was so desperate for answers back then, I would have likely swallowed it, hook line & sinker
A penny a word and not worth a penny.
I read so many books in my lifetime and that Dianetics book gave me the worst headache literally. I also threw the book out.
Back in 1990, I bought the book Dianetics. I was having problems at home and looking for a place of acceptance. The commercials were frequently on TV and I was sold thinking this organization would solve many problems. I filled out a post card requesting someone to call me, but before they did, Sally Jesse Raphael did a show on Scientology. It scared the mess out of me and I backed away.
Thing is, they are aggressive! Every now and again, I get notifications from them despite having moved a good three times. One of their letters started off as, "Are you the person who lived at _______ address?" The last contact they made was about five years ago.
Dr Grande, please do a video on the historical Phinneas Gage case and the frontal lobe disorder? The interconnection between brain damage and personality change may be interesting to many people.
OMG that's a great suggestion! One of the most bizarre cases ever.
Idk. If I had a steel bar lodged through my skull, I might get a bit testy from there on out too.
Is that the 'Jekyll and Hyde' guy? Went through a complete personality change after the accident.
@@CaptApril123 Yes.
Not trying to diagnose you, Doc, but it seems like you’re having a hard time coming to terms with your alien-ness.
Your humor is so sharp but subtle, the way you punctuate the irony’s, your examples are priceless. (How fabulous it would be to get a sound producer to edit in a crowd audience with “ooohs” and “aaaaahs”, a light laugh track here and there, maybe some claps where appropriate)
Uh oh. Dr. Grande will be on Tom Cruise's case next!
Hopefully!😁
Good idea!
@@adhdsuperpowers1257 we can only hope. He's nuttier than a fruitcake. That demonstration he put on that time he was jumping up and down on the couch n the thing with Brooke Shields. Yup. Nuttier than a fruitcake alright.
@Romanticide yep! The jumping up and down on the couch was because of his love for Katie H. Lol man honestly I wish a dude would be that enthusiastic of his love for me! Hahahahahaha.
@Romanticide yeah, not sure why that would make you act like a caveman or treat Brooke like a POS. But hey, that's Tom Cruise..... Lol
I think you can see one of their lawyers through the blinds....
😂😂😂
Best comment.
Jack Parsons is an interesting person to look at as well. He was very influential in early rocketry and part of the group that founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. But by the time he as 30 years old he was so caught up in "occult" activities that he was forced out of the industry altogether and never worked in it again. While working in rocketry he had a reputation for lax adherence to safety standards and later died in an explosion in his home laboratory.
Holy crap, didn't know to what extent Hubbard was a wackadoodle and a huckster.
When I was a teenager, my grandmother would pick up paperback books for me when she would go to rummage sales. One time it was Dianetics. It was literally unreadable.
I, too, was a teenager when I picked it up, and even at that age I could tell after the first ten pages or so that Hubbard was just completely bullshitting his way through the whole thing. Needless to say, I read no further.
@@suzintex2002 Mr. Tony (the little man who lives in my thumb) thinks you're very astute. 🤣
I had the same experience, as a teen I tried reading that book. I was completely lost, didn't make it to far. Anyway, it's a cult.
But it had a pretty cover.
I agree. It's a mess.
Really interesting! Thank you for giving us the history on his early life, so many details! And I really enjoy your synopsis and your perspective!
Dr. Grande, an amazing analysis of L. Ron Hubbard. “Squirrel Moment” describing his focus and interests in academics was spot on. The majority of people do not understand Scientology or L. Ron Hubbard. You made it simple to digest. Thank you!
I’d love to hear your take on Joseph Smith.
For sure!!!!!
YES!
Same guy practically..bad writer as cult leader...charlatan..but you knew that
@Ginny Webb..So would I!!! I was raised LDS. Spent 38 years in the church. Which is embarrassing to say...I left in 1992. Took me long enough! Breaking out of a "high demand religion" was TOUGH.
@@kkheflin3 I’m sure! Congratulations on making such a difficult decision!
One of your best evaluation. I believe L Ron Hubbard was a Lunatic.There are people that have been harassed and destroyed because of Scientology.
“Absolute power does not corrupt absolutely, absolute power attracts the corruptible.”
― Frank Herbert
Actually, both are true!
@Daniel Duvalle. Great quote! I'm an English and History teacher and I give the high school kids a quote every morning they have to analyze for the "meaning" and then their opinion of it. I'll use THIS one tomorrow! Thanks for sharing! Here's another one similar to it....especially for a so-called "religion".... “The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. The demaslave is one who listens to what these idiots have to say and pretends to believe it himself." ― H.L. Mencken
MWA DEEEEEEEEB!!!!!!
@@kkheflin3 pretends? The worlds' first billionaire, J. Paul Getty: "You CAN fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on"!!
@@kkheflin3 Another quote you may find interesting.
" Any visible position of authority tends to attract pathological personalities ". David Drake,science fiction writer,lawyer,Vietnam veteran.
When I was in grad school (in the 70's), there were both Moonies and Scientologists hawking their ideas on the quad. One of them tried to get me interested in the Dianetics book. It was THE SINGLE MOST BORING BOOK I've ever tried to read-pompous, vague, unclear-like intellectual candy floss ( cotton candy), with about as much nutritional substance...you might convince yourself that you'd consumed something significant, but it had no vitamins, minerals, or protein, to continue the food imagery. Pointless.
I didn't even get it. I thought, "Was there supposed to be some point to this?"
@Jill Short..When I was in grad school we had to read "Battlefield Earth" in some "literature" class. Professor was all into Hubbard. I skipped reading "Dianetics" and from your post I'm glad I did! He was a lousy writer so guess he decided to do religion as a day job. Yikes!
I came across 3-4 of his books in the library back in ‘06/‘07. L. Ron was a dreadful writer who apparently wished to construct some intergalactic hierarchy with himself as Supreme Being. I imagine these books he wrote were his efforts to “even things up” after his string of failures-but you’re all Correct. He had no talent, no storytelling skill, no imagination.
But like other “success stories” today, why should incompetence stop anyone from gaining power, control & dominion over vast swathes of people to manipulate & exploit?
Agreed. I also tried to read Dianetics, but the way it was written, made it extremely difficult to follow. In good writing, you are supposed to transfer the message in the most concise manner. In Dianetics, it came across as if all the sentences were padded out with extra unnecessary words.
@@maiaallman4635 “Concise” for Journalism, “precise & documented (sourced)” for scholastics. Either way, failure, I’m sure. One of my parents had a paperback copy of Dianetics in the 70s or 80s-and there was a little Dianetics center in town, too. At the time, I just thought: “This is too hard! Over my head.”
It was trying to “read” some of the novels Hubbard wrote after they’d “switched up” to Scientology in the 90s that clarified what a charlatan that guy was for me. Gibberish!
YET, they were/are able to reel in all those people, & they raised their children to “believe” 👻👾☠️👽🎃 Do you think people who can read can start their own religion? I guess that’s what book clubs are, come to think of it. O well.
Love your video series! The fact that Hubbard's son committed suicide at age 22 makes me wonder if he did so because he himself was suffering from schizophrenia, which I have read can run in families and often manifests in the early 20s. Similarly, as someone who likes James Joyce, I have wondered if Joyce had a mild form of schizophrenia (Finnegan's Wake strikes me as written in a style that resembles schizophrenic word patterns like "clang association." Joyce's daughter Lucia struggled with severe mental illness and was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Maybe you could feature a segment on this? Thanks for providing so many informative segments.
by many accounts, Quentin Hubbard was gay and his hideous father was wicked homophobic. people who knew Quentin think he committed suicide because of it (making hubbard an even bigger piece of shite than anyone thought).
@@thomkatt3385 That's terribly sad. Something I hadn't heard.
" Without a brain"... That brought a chuckle. My analysis of this guy was that he had some talent, but his inner insecurities led him down a path of grandiose thinking. It seems his followers existing today( including major celebrities) would take a step back and ask, Well, how's that working for you... But they can't, because that's how brain washing works Thanks for covering him Dr G
Dr Grande that analysis was quite disturbing This man seems really weird What suprises me is the numerous amount of famous people who follow his ideologies Thank you for this topic it was disburting and interesting Thank you Dr Grande your channel is the best!
Cotton Tails - Scientology uses celebrities to attract young people new to acting. There are Scientology "Celebrity" Centres in Hollywood. One young man who was new to acting and had left Scientology now makes TH-cam videos to inform people of all the terrible things about Scientology. He said someone took his credit card to charge for the courses and books because he couldn't afford it. To get to the different levels, it costs many thousands of dollars and they are pressured into spending more money than they have, especially a young actor new to Hollywood. Tom Cruise had dislexia and he believed he was cured of it through Scientology. Perhaps he has a mild case of dyslexia and just believes he is cured of it. Leah Remini was introduced to Scientology by her mother and is now an outspoken critic of this so called religion that is a business preying upon people. Katie Holmes was a Scientologist after she was married to Tom Cruise and left Scientology and divorced Cruise. Tom Cruise knows David Miscavage well. Miscavage is also a malevolent person. He is the top person in this cult. Cruise seems to like the recognition he gets from Scientology. They seem to cater to Cruise's needs. I have never been a Scientologist. This is a harmful cult and is only a religion on it's surface. If someone leaves Scientology and they have a family member in it, they won't have any contact with that family member.
@Jenn D especially when you have none.
@@jerryb504 Thank you for that it makes a lot of sense.
I'm enjoying your Videos so much! You're kind of like the College Professor that has been at a College for quite a few years, (so you're comfortable in your role) and everyone is trying to get into your classes, bc your Lectures are not only informative but you add a bit of Characteristic Humor, as well! Thanks "Professor", for your Enjoyable Analysis on L.Ron Huber! I never knew about his "failed" Military Career & his other Life Failures! What a piece of work HE was!!
11:43 "It is considered one of the worst movies ever made, which amazingly still does not capture just how bad it was." I'm crying, lol! He is so deadpan :D
Except it's far from the worst movie ever made. If it weren't for the Scientology connection it would be forgotten as a z-grade sci-fi.
You can see John Travolta is hamming it up big time in his costume.
This was an amazing insight into the madness of Scientology.
I wonder whether Tom Cruise and John Travolta are aware of LRH’s zany history? Bet they aren’t!
@@annchildress1058 They arent -
There's an online forum called ESMB - Ex Scientologist's Message Board
I dabbled in Scientology for about 6 months amd I would hardly qualify as a 'Real Scientologist' by True members, who have pursued the practice as a career.
But If someone is interested, they can join ESMB - but be prepared - Scientologists have their own language and anyone who's never be a member will have a very difficult time following along.
There is a man today, who claims to be the new re-incarnation of LRH and his movement is gathering momentum with many followers
Members of the Curch Of Scientology are shielded from any information that is considered by the church as being 'Supressive'
I'll add to that after some additional thought :
A few individuals appear to have set themselves on a personal mission to become L.Ron Hubbard , In the sense of trying to become their own messiah, by somehow cracking the code between mental health, religion and individual well-beingness.
... But those others fell short, where Hubbard became desperately motivated and created a cult of members whom he experimented upon successfully in the majority of cases.
It's basically a system using technology to elevate an individual's spiritual awareness....
How many people have actually been inspired to pursue the spiritual aspect of mental health? Or felt that ; Just possibly the diagnoses that patients are labelled with, are bogus... But who else is there to turn to?
@@annchildress1058 what?! they certainly are. Tommy is totally full of it. Why do you think he rejected Nicole? Because she thought they were all bat shit crazy
Read “Scientology: A to Xenu” by Chris Shelton.
It's more factual, goes into the history of LRON, and what "Dietetics" actually does.
It's the least of the more explosive/drama books that goes into the details.
Also "Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me" is pretty good.
Hi Todd, great video! Could you please take a guess as to what LRH's Myers Briggs Personality Type was? Thanks
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
sure you did
Me 2
Me too.
I knew that. I have a photographic memory.
Doctor Grande is just the best best best.
Agree agree agree
2 days in a row!!!!!
@@fallyneprinciotta9058 Budd Dwyer tomorrow maybe?
YES, HE IS!!!!!!!!
@@SleimanSam that's the 1 besides Benoit that I'm really interested in. So here's hoping.
L.R. Hubbard was always projecting.
He had a intense hatred of psychology/ psychiatry. He had a fanciful imagination.
He combined these traits to build his own cult, to make a fortune and exert power.
His Scientology "religion" has ruined many lives.
I hope that cult will soon face their demise.
After watching this video, I would love to see you analyze John Travolta & Tom Cruise.
"Conducting research without a brain?" Someone's in danger if being labeled a suppressive person.
L. Ron Hubbard would be livid to know that he was being analyzed by a psychologist haha.
Hey can we talk about Tom Cruise?? 🚬
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He is summarized in this video. There nothing more about him. LOL.
What does 🚬 mean?
@@staciesheppard2048 it means, I’m sitting here having a casual conversation with the doc..... glass of lemonade in one hand, and my pretend cigarette in another...., wanting to talk about Tom :)
Stupid
Uh oh, I feel myself edging towards another Scientology rabbit hole...
Dammit.
Don't do it.
Operation Clambake is excellent.
Thank you Dr. Todd Grande for revealing the weaknesses in L.Ron Hubbard's Scientology. Remind me again where he got his Bachelor's degree and Master's degree in psychology? Oh, that's right, he never earned any college degrees. I think Scientology shows us how desperate disillusioned people are to find something to believe in. When I first moved to California, a man approached me on the street trying to sell me a book 📖 on Dianetics. I refused. I lost a lot of respect for Tom Cruise when he made his attack on Brooke Shields. He should have kept his mouth shut and kept making movies 🎥 The only people who believe in Scientology are those are don't have a real education and/or good critical thinking skills.
"Hubbard seemed to be high in..."
Yeah, I think we can just leave it at "high" with this one.
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He was constantly high, most often on amphetamines.
"Look, squirrel!"
Be careful saying that to a $cientologist, it means something quite different in Scientologese! Seriously though, as a fairly hardcore $cientology watcher, I was highly impressed with your summary of Hubbard's life. Detailed yet fast-moving, and highly accurate. Thank you, this was a very pleasant surprise. 10/10! Especially throwing in a bit of J&D ("Joking and Degrading") at Hubbard's expense in there! You're going to be OSA'd for this one, Dr. Todd SP Grande!
Just a nitpicky side note for anyone thinking of dabbling in Scientology and keeping their former religion:
"members are allowed to have other religious beliefs." This is a lie $cientology used to put out a lot for public relations purposes. I'm not sure if they still spew this one, but based on their partnering up with the Nation of Islam, I'm assuming they're still spinning it. Get deep enough into $cientology, and it won't be all that long before you find out you can't have another religion. For example, Christianity - the very religion this PR lie was meant to mollify - is completely incompatible with $cientology, since Hubbard says: "The man on the cross. There was no Christ! The Roman Catholic Church, through watching the dramatizations of people picked up some little fragments of R6", and "the product of two implants dating back more than 43 trillion years.” R6 is, funnily enough, one of the "implants" associated with the infamous Xenu/Xemu story, implants being brainwashing damages inflicted on thetans (souls) between lives, to keep them prisoner on Teegeeack (Earth).
Isn't the "squirrel" W. Erhard, est, Landmark? I think I read that somewhere.
I can't believe anyone doesn't know that by now, but then again, people still support trump.
@@kimberlygabaldon3260 "Squirrels" are anybody who practice all or some of the teachings of Scientology, but not under the auspices (read: paywall) of the official Church of Scientology.
@UC565MJXQ-HOpFuv5FBQx1cw We know that the global flood DID happen, and I'm no Christian. You do realize that the earth has been hit by huge meteors in the past, right? When that happens, the water tends to go up in the air. Hard to move on climate change, as it's caused by the position of the earth/precession of equinoxes, etc. Have you ever heard of the Ice Age?
@@kimberlygabaldon3260 ah yes, alternative facts
When I was in a theological school we were taught to do premarital and some marital counseling.we were also taught to have the resources to refer people to qualified psychologist, psychiatrist or social workers to help some one with a mental health issues.
YES!!! Been looking forward to this one! Just introduced you to my husband and you gained another new subscriber 👏🏻💜
Wow! I'm from germany and Scientology is rare here and considered not a church but a cult. So i didn't know anything about Hubbard. From what i know about Scientology i imagined him as an evil genious and bad person and am so surprised, he wasn't a genious at all and clearly mentally ill.
They're not even considered a religion but a for-profit, as far as I know. I would prefer the category criminal organization, though.
@@alexanderfo3886 Technically they are a religion..they won tax exempt status by claiming such in court.
@@geraldfriend256 I didn't know that. Thank you.
@@alexanderfo3886 They still have tax-exempt status. Unbelievably. I'm in the wrong business.
@@kkheflin3 So am I. It's a good example of how you can get away with almost anything when claiming it's a religion. Very telling and concerning.
Dr.,In the early 1970s I was in the tenth grade and had an english class in which we read science fiction books. I knew Mr. Hubbard as a top writer of science fiction before I knew of Scientology. They believe in some of the scariest monsters in outer space being real leaders of the church. He was a SiFi writer. His disdain for medical and mental health professionals might have been the people that could have helped him greatly, by what you described. Also, the churches violent acts back as now toward their enemies and detractors was legendary, like putting poisonous snakes in the mail boxes of people the church considered threatening. Keep up the good work, Dr.
Boy, I hope you don’t get harassed by the Scientologists. They don’t like anyone speaking the truth about their organization.
They aren't a threat. They are honestly struggling and losing members every day. I genuinely wouldn't worry about them, they are pathetic.
@@nightshadehelis9821 So eventually their membership will be down to just Tom Cruise and David Miscavige, two handsome white men with severe anger issues. Cruise seems like he's _becoming_ David Miscavige, and I don't know that I'd wish that on anyone.
They still have $$$ & harass critics.
Well if they don't harrass outsiders then they would have nothing to agree on the whole sham would fall apart
I don't think you can be harassed (remotely) by someone you don't care about and who has no way to find you. Oh noes. My inbox is flooded with smites and threats i don't believe in.
Google account selector > create account.
Leave the burning barge to the sea.
And even if they can find you, what are they going to do? Email your employer and tell them about your blatant disregard for Thetans?
Oh fabulous choice!
Hey, if Scientology isn’t going to combat Xenu, the extraterrestrial supervillain and free us from the thetans that occupy us, who will?
I think it's probably safe to say that Hubbard worked relatively hard at defrauding many people, and was quite successful in doing so. People like this guy are so easy to pick up on if one just uses logic. If you encounter a person like Hubbard, simply turn around and run as far away as you can. Just get the hell away from them.
I know a YT channel with a creator who is VERY MUCH like Hubbard. In fact, I was scammed out of 3K by this YT channel creator.
Thank you for the interesting analysis, Dr. Grande. Another "benefit" of starting a religion would be tax exemption.
You should check out the story on getting their tax-exempt status. They actually were denied such status for a long time. Then in the late 80s - early 90s they launched a campaign against the IRS, including 1000 lawsuits and attacks against individual IRS agents. Very high drama. Unethical and horrendous. However, in the end, they won that status, although they are clearly a business and a cult.
Oh, baby! I would give many millions of Euros to witness the meeting of Dr. Grande, L. Ron Hubbard, and Dr. Gene Scott!!!!! And, of course Ray Bradbury and Robert Heinlein.
So you are saying that you are not a space alien?
Disappointing
Well, he never denied it.
"Based on the quality of this so-called research, I'm surprised they didn't say he learned to conduct research without a brain."
Possibly your finest burn yet! XD