John Wayne Gacy (Killer Clown) | Mental Health & Personality

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  • @call_me_p1cklez101
    @call_me_p1cklez101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2372

    "I think gacey did more damage to the reputation of clowns than any single person in history"
    I love this dude's humor

    • @crampfever
      @crampfever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      And the delivery... so dry, blink and you might miss it. I love it.

    • @padussia
      @padussia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yep. I've always been afraid of clowns though.

    • @youandopenflames9756
      @youandopenflames9756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agreed. Needs more brevity though.

    • @inkompetenzkompensationsko4188
      @inkompetenzkompensationsko4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I think Stephen King perfected this job tho😂

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188 Yes he did :)

  • @ledzepbrooklyn3890
    @ledzepbrooklyn3890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1891

    Dr.Grande is the KING of roasts but, im only speculating what could be happening in a situation like this

    • @hakimchulan
      @hakimchulan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hshshshs

    • @pacz1212
      @pacz1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      lol hes so funny

    • @elif-py1gt
      @elif-py1gt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      he’s not a psychologist...

    • @Alexis-dr4yo
      @Alexis-dr4yo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @staceylili6703
      @staceylili6703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Best comment ❤️

  • @MrBigtime1986
    @MrBigtime1986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1421

    The father apologized for beating him. You can't put the tooth paste back in the tube after you squeeze it out. The damage was done.

    • @thesparrow3902
      @thesparrow3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +179

      I blame the mother, too. Some women put their husbands before their children. I certainly don't know the circumstances with his mother but I am sad no one rescued him--not a teacher, not an older friend, no one.

    • @MrBigtime1986
      @MrBigtime1986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      @@thesparrow3902 child abuse definitely damages not only the child but puts the entire community at risk. I hate people who think abusing their children. All they're doing is killing whatever self-esteem they have .

    • @thesparrow3902
      @thesparrow3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@MrBigtime1986 Abuse of children, abuse of the elderly, abuse of animals...all just so grievous.

    • @powerful7661
      @powerful7661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      An apology is rare. Most abusers of their children, and all pedophiles that I've ever heard of, deny and gaslight what they did. I was surprised when I heard that he apologised. It's something. It can't fix or change anything. And it's something.

    • @powerful7661
      @powerful7661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@thesparrow3902 Many woman with abusive husbands are so beaten down that they cannot do much. We do not know of other situations that she might have been able to diffuse. Judge, if you must, bearing in mind that we simply do not know everything that happened in that house.

  • @alik1989
    @alik1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    Every person on earth: "He was an alcoholic."
    Dr. Grande: "He struggled to regulate alcohol intake."

    • @neilabernath5862
      @neilabernath5862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I loved that comment too.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So did Dahmer. Of course, normal drinkers just stop at around 2 drinks. They LEAVE some in the glass.

    • @joelewertow6095
      @joelewertow6095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Found it to be somewhat inaccurate. Alcoholism cannot be distilled(no pun intended)into the narrow behavior given

    • @ericablu-y8z
      @ericablu-y8z ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he said at the beginning “i’m not diagnosing anyone” so i think he avoids terms like alcoholic

    • @KellieGray-k4t
      @KellieGray-k4t 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My parents’ generation would say, “He has a ‘drinking’ problem “. My mom would say that about my father. Many years later I said to my family, let’s just all say the “A” word…. No one really does…. Except me. I wonder if it sounds disrespectful? Or is it wrong of me to diagnose? As was mentioned in this string. I’m glad it was brought up bc I’ve never thought about it this way before.

  • @sekenamcmurren2217
    @sekenamcmurren2217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +787

    Dr Grande telling jokes with a straight face is hysterical😂

  • @larrybuzbee7344
    @larrybuzbee7344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1154

    I was hitchhiking through Chicago in June of '75 when I got a ride from a robust fellow driving a pickup with a toolbox in the back and a sticker on the bumper that said "support your local clown". I immediately had a bad feeling and declined, vigorously, his offer to go home with him to have a beer. I have taken thousands of rides from perfect strangers over the years and can only remember 3 or 4 individuals, but that guy I remember. Maybe ten years later I read a book about GWG and as I went through it I began to make connections with the Chicago ride. I turned to the section of the paperback in the center with the black and white pictures. I immediately recognized Gacy and his pickup. I am grateful to my mom for having taught me to listen to my gut instincts. This is one reason I am fascinated by your analyses of these characters.

    • @madelynnemree2618
      @madelynnemree2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      omg this is crazy!!!! so glad you are ok!

    • @peggycearnach8034
      @peggycearnach8034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      Thank goodness you trusted your gut instinct there. Maybe the ones who became his victims had been conditioned not to trust their own instincts over many years. Best to you.

    • @kawaiibun2005
      @kawaiibun2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      OMFG that is insane!!! I always wonder what it's like finding out someone you interacted with could have killed or done something horrible after they become criminalized in the highest form.

    • @ashleyelizabeth8335
      @ashleyelizabeth8335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Thousands of rides?!

    • @larrybuzbee7344
      @larrybuzbee7344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      @@ashleyelizabeth8335 I was a hippy just freed from the army. I had a lot of seeing to do. And yes, over 20 years, thousands of rides and 99.9% very good people. Only three to four murderer types so far as I could tell. 😁

  • @neoseoul2528
    @neoseoul2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    I'm a simple person, I see Dr Grande, I like before watching

    • @kriskrispies2127
      @kriskrispies2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In that case, you are truly a man of culture

    • @sickboy7104
      @sickboy7104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kissass

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Old Iron yes be objective in your subjective taste for media fellas

    • @painwarriorprincess5120
      @painwarriorprincess5120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nothing wrong with that. You have prior knowledge from watching his other videos that Dr Grande puts out quality content. You can watch it, and if you find after engaging in an 'objective' viewing that your like was premature and ill-advised, you can remove it.😁 A TH-cam like is not a lifelong commitment if you don't want it to be.😉

  • @BA.77777
    @BA.77777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Your summaries are some of the best I’ve heard. No flash, no animations, just clear and deeply engaging storytelling. Love your evaluations and channel.

  • @victran5882
    @victran5882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    “Optimistic therapist club”
    Lol.

  • @olivierkepo
    @olivierkepo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    “Genetics loads the gun, personality aims the gun, and experiences pull the trigger” - Jim Clemente
    This guy seems like he was a perfect storm of those three factors.

  • @Andrei-yv8fz
    @Andrei-yv8fz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    What determines whether or not an abused child becomes dangerous? I don't know what saved me! Genetics? Lack of head injury? This fascinates me. Whatever it is, I'm so grateful.

    • @anjachan
      @anjachan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      my parents didn't have the best parent(s) too ... for this they are great parents to me. The outcome of abuse can be really different. Maybe it depends on how sensitive the child is.

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I think it just takes a lot of factors to make someone a dangerous predator. Thank goodness!

    • @anjachan
      @anjachan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toweypat Im not so sure about it.

    • @wilmer89
      @wilmer89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@charlesmiller5078 I got turned into batman

    • @barrymichlowitz1071
      @barrymichlowitz1071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wilmer89 That is so sick! Hahaha

  • @fiona-lyons
    @fiona-lyons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    Question to ask on a first date: So have you suffered one or more head traumas in your past?
    Another fascinating analysis Dr Grande.

    • @anjachan
      @anjachan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I did but Im "normal" ... thanx god xD

    • @popeye5274
      @popeye5274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah, head trauma seems to be a common pattern with a majority of serial killers.

    • @attheranch873
      @attheranch873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A lot of people have experienced head trauma.

    • @fiona-lyons
      @fiona-lyons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@attheranch873 myself included...twice. So far I seem ok though.

    • @anjachan
      @anjachan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@attheranch873 would be bad if everyone would be crazy because of it ;)

  • @bellam7359
    @bellam7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +863

    That picture of him dressed as the clown is terrifying.

    • @pkmcburroughs
      @pkmcburroughs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I can only imagine what his balloon animals looked like.
      "Um. What is it?"
      "It's a giraffe!"
      "It doesn't look like a giraffe."
      "It's just the neck. I keep the head and body balloons under my house."

    • @tadeogalvan565
      @tadeogalvan565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Makes Pennywise look like a cool clown.

    • @bruceswinford4901
      @bruceswinford4901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      He also purposefully painted his face with sharp points, something most clowns avoided doing to avoid scaring children

    • @crazyclown2650
      @crazyclown2650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Not all clowns are lunatics, most of us are crazy though. But being "crazy" and a "clown" doesn't always translate into someone like John Wayne Gacy. But there is a such thing as "fun crazy"

    • @mattheww797
      @mattheww797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bella M to be honest he was mostly just misunderstood. Anyone who is abused by their father will develop some bad habits

  • @brendanhiggins4939
    @brendanhiggins4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Quickly becoming my favorite channel. I’m a night custodian at a school, and this channel is perfect for when I’m working. Makes the night much more enjoyable. Thank you Dr. Grande

    • @mirandalangley9475
      @mirandalangley9475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ine as well! Thank you Dr Grande!

    • @blablatructruc
      @blablatructruc ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it has also something to do with repression

  • @Attabasca
    @Attabasca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    "Optimistic therapists club" cracked me up and yes, clearly that therapist was not a member! I imagine him having a giant rubber stamp with the word "HOPELESS" that he used for his files. 🤣

    • @sheilagravely5621
      @sheilagravely5621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, he wasn't wrong was he??

    • @whatsuplocs2813
      @whatsuplocs2813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @clutchkman
      @clutchkman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      With a diagnosis of “hopeless,” couldn’t the court at least have him held for more psychiatric assessment? For the public safety?

    • @MerHerrera5
      @MerHerrera5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clutchkman it's written. There is a recommendation not to release him because he was a danger to society. But someone didn't care at all and they released him anyway

  • @ladyphelps21
    @ladyphelps21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    " We're gonna need an inmate chapter, like these people are going to be arrested "😅🤣😂🤣
    Comments like these are why I'm a fan!

    • @endorfiene7457
      @endorfiene7457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      im trying to look up information about that inmate chapter but i can't figure out the spelling, can you help me? lmao

  • @veggiequeen2738
    @veggiequeen2738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    All these years of true crime tv and I learned more from you than all those shows combined. Well done once again Dr. Grande👏

  • @yoitsrami
    @yoitsrami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Dr. Grande here is a suggestion:
    The personality characteristics of bullies and trolls

    • @h.borter5367
      @h.borter5367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He's done the internet troll already

    • @timsharpe6652
      @timsharpe6652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was bullied at High School myself , so might be interesting to look into their possible psychology 🙂

    • @jackrainwater7966
      @jackrainwater7966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he's done that or something similar.

    • @elinelinka
      @elinelinka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Natalie grande does not actually read his comments....I could explain it very simple for you...not becouse I am a psychiatrist...even if I am...but because I have an understanding of the human nature...and etnologi is much more helpful in understanding behaviors because of the fact that humans is just another species of animal.....

    • @elinelinka
      @elinelinka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there is no such thing as one characteristic of people that bully...but if you have to categorize then its actually very simple, just because of the fact that it is a very normal human(animal) behavior....most people can be made into bullying because we are flock animals...and instinctively we fell like we can't survive without the approval of others...and the majority of humans are not able to think for themselves...this also makes us innately insecure...and therefore in order to fit in and make us feel better about ourselves we like to put others down...and because everything is relative...(proven fact!) putting others below us, automatically makes us better...just nature...its not complicated....!!!!

  • @LEVI040910
    @LEVI040910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really love Dr. Grande's dark humor/sarcasm. There seems to be at least a tinge of it in each video. Thank you for all your content, Dr. Grande!

  • @moxiemaxie3543
    @moxiemaxie3543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love that he recaps someone's life cut dry without dramatization or drama music. Even his voice is neutral 😁

  • @mikeformisano764
    @mikeformisano764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    Rachel Dolezal would be a great analysis. It would be awesome to hear a professional describe what she could be suffering from.

    • @nancydocimo5526
      @nancydocimo5526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      This doctor is brilliant

    • @nicoolpeg7821
      @nicoolpeg7821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes! Hers would be quite interesting 🤔

    • @Hannah-zw9ow
      @Hannah-zw9ow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Johnny Flannigan as we have all (hopefully) learned from these videos, delusions are symptoms of some psych disorders. That’s why an analysis would be interesting.

    • @burntreynolds8312
      @burntreynolds8312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree

    • @burntreynolds8312
      @burntreynolds8312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Or talcum X

  • @judithcampbell1705
    @judithcampbell1705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No clowning around.. Gacy is the lesson in why people should never hitchhike, especially alone. Thanks for your interesting analysis Dr Grande.

    • @humanbeing5300
      @humanbeing5300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bundy too victimized hitchikers

  • @atomarkanov8201
    @atomarkanov8201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    There is an ice cream truck on the streets outside my house. The song reminded me of clowns, which made me think of John Gacy. The I get on TH-cam and see this video. Good timing, good video.

    • @myriamguns2162
      @myriamguns2162 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mr. Layth Adrian
      I don't get your meaning??

  • @leavemealonewillya
    @leavemealonewillya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "This mental health professional was probably not a member of the optimistic therapist club" 😂😂😂

  • @istateyourname4710
    @istateyourname4710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Sinister and obnoxious to the end. He stated that he shouldn't have been charged w/ murder. He should have been charged w/ operating a cemetery without a license.

  • @p0stry
    @p0stry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm here for the fresh Grande. Thank you for my one (1) dopamine molecule this week.

  • @jenilynneful
    @jenilynneful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Lol the Girl Scout joke was great

    • @kriskrispies2127
      @kriskrispies2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those were some salty cookies 🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂

    • @celesteisneat
      @celesteisneat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I let out a single loud obnoxious laugh when he said that! My cat won’t come back!

  • @gracelove5211
    @gracelove5211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    You’re the best Dr. Grande! Thank you!

  • @valaries.5944
    @valaries.5944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dr. Grande is so in depth. He gives entire, history of the subject. Before his analysis on the subject.
    Interjecting his own, humor throughout. This is my go to on the web.

  • @MissMaeww
    @MissMaeww 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hearing Dr G use the word bombastic is a highlight of this video for me.

  • @nikki4534
    @nikki4534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Right on time as usual. Liked it already💃🏽

  • @kavitadeva
    @kavitadeva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Well, he's not your ordinary
    BOZO.

    • @franmellor9843
      @franmellor9843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Real Deal was not

    • @JohnGalt1960
      @JohnGalt1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We're all bozos on this bus.

    • @Zara-js9wz
      @Zara-js9wz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pogo

    • @RYMAN1321
      @RYMAN1321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He truly was, the most evil kind.

    • @ericwalters5382
      @ericwalters5382 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blozo always said you can tell a lot about a Clown by the size of his shoes.

  • @davidmenke7552
    @davidmenke7552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This is the best Friday night ever!!!

  • @fiilmstar
    @fiilmstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I live in the town where this happened, and my fathers friend was one of his murder victims. My grandpa tore down his house and saw the basement. Everyone here is still affected by it to this day.

  • @timmy4312
    @timmy4312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Rest in peace to all of the victims, it's truly horrifying how he could just take their life away from them.

  • @kathleenryan1371
    @kathleenryan1371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Oh, I love me some Dr. Grande! Thank you for the consistently unbiased and scientifically method based content. But, to be honest, I have to admit the best part of your videos are the deadpan, straight-faced sarcastic comments that make even the most morbid content hysterical! :)

  • @cindyrhodes
    @cindyrhodes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    JWG is absolutely one of the most heinous and creepy killers ever. Thank you so much, Dr. Grande, for helping us peer into the mental health and personality factors of this guy!! Fascinating!!!!!! (And... I am going out to start creating that Girl 👧 Scout 🍪 recipe.... You know... the one with the file baked into each one.)

    • @patmanchester8045
      @patmanchester8045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Read The Last Victim. It is on line, now. It is a creepy true account of a young man who 'befriended" gacy to write a class paper on serial killers.

    • @cindyrhodes
      @cindyrhodes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patmanchester8045 thank you for the excellent suggestion!

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@patmanchester8045 And if you don't know the whole story behind the author, DO NOT Google it until after you have finished reading the book.

    • @leannatimmerman9922
      @leannatimmerman9922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can’t think of anyone worse, so I think he’s the very most disgusting human who ever lived

    • @dukey19941
      @dukey19941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His arrogance when he is interviewed in prison is astounding. He really thought his poop didn't smell.

  • @resop3
    @resop3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    What's disturbing to me is that people would pay large sums of money for some of the paintings that Gacy painted.

    • @dortesandal4303
      @dortesandal4303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      There is a hot marked for that stuff, serial killer art, writings aso - I want to be open minded, but I in All honesty find it revolting.

    • @gigiarmany
      @gigiarmany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ppl are garbage

    • @765kvline
      @765kvline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hitler's original watercolors are worth a small fortune.

    • @BeckBeckGo
      @BeckBeckGo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gigiarmany I don't think that's fair. Most people buy art as a conversation piece. This would definitely fall into that category. People collect all kinds of weird things that have no comment on their character. I collect insect/arachnid/chilopod taxidermy. like we're talking massive beetles from Asia, giant hornets, centipedes, all things that would make me literally crap my pants if a living on approached me, and I obviously don't catch them (they come from antique stores or people in the business). But I love admiring them on the wall because I can look at them close up, learn about them, touch their wing casings or stingers etc. And that sounds cruel as hell, but since i usually get them secondhand, I don't feel too badly about it.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gigiarmany I have a tee with an alien and it says "Humans suck." Lol

  • @ColletteMartell
    @ColletteMartell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for covering John Wayne Gacy. I read and wrote about him in college when I did a research paper about serial killers.

  • @elenafalconsseedlaboratory403
    @elenafalconsseedlaboratory403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "This therapist was not a member of the optimistic therapist club, but it turns out they were right ..." Dr Grande 😂 Great overview, as always!

  • @notdomonique
    @notdomonique 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You spoil us, Dr. Grande ❤️

  • @CommanderBunky
    @CommanderBunky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally! Been waiting for this one. I actually owned copy #13/500 of the book he wrote in prison called A Question of Doubt. Never read it, but I did sell it to the East Alcatraz Crime Museum so if you want to see one in person it is on display there.

  • @TheTroyandAbedfan
    @TheTroyandAbedfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    Reasons why parenting classes should be mandatory.

    • @b_ail1999
      @b_ail1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Dakota Lyons Commie.

    • @ifartmagic
      @ifartmagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Dakota Lyons Not in the least bit. I don't want the govt raising my kids. Mt principles and morals don't line up with our ever changing system (here in the USA atleast). Not sure where you fall on the spectrum, but im sure you don't want the opposite party telling your kids what's right. That's a scary thought.

    • @pregnantmiltank
      @pregnantmiltank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Dakota Lyons you gotta be joking

    • @sanitary103
      @sanitary103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Dakota Lyons the last thing we need is more government control. Please rethink your entire ideology.

    • @jessestewart169
      @jessestewart169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true.

  • @melissa9375
    @melissa9375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for telling people to report crimes - it can make a difference in the future!

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just report anyone you get a bad feeling about or they're acting funky. Let the cops deal with it.
      We saw this odd guy looking at all the houses while we were standing outside talking with the dog. He didn't ask us for help to find a place or even say anything. All 3 of us were weirded out.

  • @ladylaois8184
    @ladylaois8184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It’s funny you did this one. I watched an interesting interview he did. He came across a lot more intelligent and composed than I expected. He seemed very normal. I’m not sure what I expected. But wasn’t this. Your analysis of these people is excellent. I’m a retired Psychiatric professional of 45 years, and the minds of people never cease to Intrigue and amaze me. Many thanks 🙏

    • @declankelly9829
      @declankelly9829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bet YOUR mind never ceases to intrigue and amaze some people you have had a relationship with ... Lady Laois!

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose in the back of our minds, we always imagine these people will look like werewolves and have a voice like Darth Vader. It's bewildering when they appear to be like an everyday person. The writer Hannah Arendt wrote about 'the banality of evil' - that most evil is carried out by banal, everyday people.

  • @teresas8173
    @teresas8173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    At the same as Gacy, there was Dean Corll, the Candyman doing the same thing in Texas. Sadistic torture and murder of young boys. It didn’t get as much coverage as Gacy because I think he was caught first, but this guy was just as evil. I don’t know how or if family members ever get over their loved one being so brutally murdered. Grief I can’t even imagine 😞

    • @Timeren2010
      @Timeren2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dean Corll wasnt caught, he was killed by one of his associates/near future victims during a night of horror. The survivors of that evening, made the ball roll, and the murders public.

    • @teresas8173
      @teresas8173 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HamsterJoe Hanson , yes, I do know that Corll was shot and killed by one of co-horts who was likely going to be Corlls next victim. He along with another teen were getting Dean Corll his victims. They both got life sentences, I believe. I guess I just meant that that those serial killings came to end about he same time as Gacy, not that Corll was ever caught. I should have been more clear.

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Timeren2010 Yes, Corll killed boys, but interestingly, one of those potential victims was a young woman.

    • @inkompetenzkompensationsko4188
      @inkompetenzkompensationsko4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Considering your discussion, i would also be interested in Dr. Grande analysing this Case

    • @Timeren2010
      @Timeren2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sarah2.017 I think she was just in the way, he actually asked the teenager who would become his killer, to be her killer. Meanwhile he would kill another teenage boy that was in his apartment that evening. All 3 teens survived, but it could easily have been the other way around. Corll had all 3 tied up at one point, but his "associate" managed to talk himself out of it, after which Corll was killed. Crazy story, crazy man..

  • @RoCkbunny769
    @RoCkbunny769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You don’t know how much I appreciate your videos. Your steady, calm way of speaking really helps with my anxiety, especially with the pandemic.
    And today has shaken me to the core, and even if the subject is especially dark, hearing you break it down so calmly has helped bring me down.

    • @b4u992
      @b4u992 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn. That's a beautiful, voluptuous woman. How'd you get thighs like that girl? Jesus.

  • @WitchOfThePage
    @WitchOfThePage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yesssss! I am so excited for this video, I clicked out of another with much vigour.
    John Wayne Gacy really seemed to instill a lot of fear in parents. He was one of the first serial killers I heard of as a child, my mother always warned me about clowns. 🎈
    Thank you, for all of your research and speedy uploads Dr. Grande.

  • @jeffinphx517
    @jeffinphx517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    The ability to make a balloon Dachshund is a precursor to perverted behavior.

    • @LW-ej6id
      @LW-ej6id 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😄

  • @SusanSez1
    @SusanSez1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dr. Grande, I'm addicted. I love your style and your cadence and your voice. And you make me laugh out loud when I don't expect you to...like when you said Gacy did more to ruin the reputation of clowns than anyone else did. You're great!!

  • @blazinvenus3914
    @blazinvenus3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I come for the dark humor and stay for Dr Todd's vast knowledge! Thank you 4 the daily fun!

  • @metaphoricalmusician
    @metaphoricalmusician 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’m just sitting here with my cat and listening to you. Great analysis!

  • @nope2190
    @nope2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dr grande,
    Just found your channel a few days ago, and it’s awesome, intriguing and factual. You are a charming person and treat these social “monsters” with dignity and grace while profiling them. I commend your work and you are a fantastic narrator!

  • @gram5963
    @gram5963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    My husband: “WHAT are you listening to?” Me: “Do not speak while the doctor is speaking”.

  • @MJPedersen
    @MJPedersen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I just watched the documentary about him on Netflix and I wanted to watch your analysis afterwards. Very exciting yet terrifying case. Thank you for your input.

  • @Alien--eh2yh
    @Alien--eh2yh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for everything you do, Dr. Grande. I’ve learned so much from your videos. You’ve grown to be my favorite TH-cam channel of all time. Anyways, have a good night !

  • @justinhulet2848
    @justinhulet2848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been waiting for you to cover John Wayne Gacy ever since I discovered your channel. Thank you very much not only for this video, but also for the plethora of other quality videos you pour out.

  • @gracelove5211
    @gracelove5211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Please do a video on the musician Prince! I’d LOVE to hear your views on him💜

  • @garthreiman9148
    @garthreiman9148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These videos are amazing. Dr. Grande is so we'll spoken, well researched and I enjoy his dry sense of humor. I'm an addict.

  • @MissMiisha
    @MissMiisha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Hi Dr. Grande! I can’t help but notice how the most discussed serial killers have traumatic brain injury in their history. This includes Edmund Kemper, Richard Ramirez, John Wayne Gacy Jr., Jerry Brudos, Gary Heidnik, and Ed Gein just to name who I know of. I have heard of athletes who play football who also had violent behavior after TBI occurrences. I’m not sure if you would be willing to discuss this, but I’d love to hear your opinion about it. Love your channel so much! Thank you if you read this!

    • @maryjanekapteyn8964
      @maryjanekapteyn8964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The behaviour panel cites perfect storm for creation of serial killers are three things: abuse in childhood, mental illness and brain damage. This is the killers created not born theory.

    • @rayleanlissness8837
      @rayleanlissness8837 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't know I had a s***** childhood and a lot of abuse and I've had like I don't know six or seven concussions. I mean knockout concussions. And I have about a 4 and 1/2 mm lesion in my frontal lobe and I actually think I'm pretty well regulated. I grew up I have a wonderful husband beautiful children and I'm a public defender. Give back to the community. Or maybe I just can't hack it as a real lawyer as some of the other attorneys say lol. But yeah Head Trauma + Abusive upcoming does not always equate to being doomed. Or I'm just a genetic mistake of nature who knows. Light and love.

    • @develyntwocentshenderson5739
      @develyntwocentshenderson5739 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched the movie 'concussion' (based on a book) and it demonstrates that these injuries do lasting damage and alter personalities.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Would you please discuss the type of personality the Jack the Ripper killer could have had? He has never been identified, although many men & even some women have been put forth as the Ripper. Just interested in your opinion of the killers personality type.

    • @Earlybird86
      @Earlybird86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He has been identified. He was a Jewish man from Poland.

    • @Max-el7zd
      @Max-el7zd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Zachary Moses Care to elaborate?

    • @pinecone1113
      @pinecone1113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He got syphilis from a prostitute because he couldn't keep it in his pants and went on a revenged-fueled prostitute-killing rampage because of it. End of story.

    • @Earlybird86
      @Earlybird86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Max-el7zd his name was Aaron Kosminski. He was witnessed in the act, but the witness was a fellow Jew who refused to identify him.
      DNA was used to identify him from some preserved clothing from a victim.

    • @damothomas5783
      @damothomas5783 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pinecone1113 lol he was asking who he was lol we know the story 😂😂

  • @adrianaandrade8809
    @adrianaandrade8809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That is my favorite shirt Dr. Grande! ⭐

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 I just commented on another of your comments, and...same lol

    • @adrianaandrade8809
      @adrianaandrade8809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kdelka81 I think we are watching to much Dr Grande! LoL... Our husband gonna have to deal with it 😅

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adrianaandrade8809 My line of thinking, too 😊

    • @franmellor9843
      @franmellor9843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pinstripe is always smart

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@franmellor9843 True. But I've seen him in it all buttoned up with a tie, and I like the smart look but also a tad laid back like how he wears it now on yt.

  • @sunshinecoasttrailcam
    @sunshinecoasttrailcam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for making sense of these complicated people who live amongst us! Clowns will never be the same.

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Thanks doctor, wow it would be interesting to hear how his two children feel about their father.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Proof WHY you run a background check. They would have found his pervert arrest records.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Proof WHY you run a background check. They would have found his pervert arrest records.

    • @rucianapollard4057
      @rucianapollard4057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm sure they changed their last name and live in obscurity.

  • @cantfindmykeys
    @cantfindmykeys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Deadpan, we love your sense of humor and the way you deliver it. I hated clowns until the day my tire blew on the turnpike many many years ago on a winter night. Before we had cell phones. It was getting dark and more than one creepy person(s) had stopped to offer help but I declined on my gut feelings. I had raised my hood but no trooper appeared to rescue me. After the worst creepy guy wearing gloves walked 3 circles around my car staring at me but saying nothing until I started blasting the horn to get rid of him, I locked all my doors and grabbe a screwdriver from the glovebox to use as a weapon. The windows stayed up though it was getting stuffy. My gas was very low, it was so cold and I needed the heater. Then a station wagon filled with balloons pulled over. A driver dressed as a clown stepped out and from the passenger side a female clown. They approached my window and said pop the trunk and don't be afraid. The wife clown stayed by my window cheering me up with jokes and her clown husband changed my tire. I asked how to thank them and No No we are glad to help, so I said do you have a card? She handed me a card through the window. Jiggles and Sparky, clowns for hire. I tried to contact them about a week later and send them flowers or something but the number wasn't in use and nobody ever heard of them. True story.

    • @Johnbartheart
      @Johnbartheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😳

    • @cantfindmykeys
      @cantfindmykeys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Johnbartheart Yep, it really happened. On the highway after I left Philly to go home many years ago.

  • @quintincole1357
    @quintincole1357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I'm interested in what kind of issues his father had that caused him to treat his son that way.🤔

    • @attheranch873
      @attheranch873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too, because my dad was like his.

    • @thesparrow3902
      @thesparrow3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He was an alcoholic.

    • @diankreczmer6595
      @diankreczmer6595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think the father treated gayce badly because thst is the way he was treated

    • @myriamguns2162
      @myriamguns2162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thesparrow3902
      Mostly one becomes an alcoholic for (a) reason(s)

    • @CanadianMonarchist
      @CanadianMonarchist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@attheranch873 I'm sorry to hear that.

  • @thatpointinlife
    @thatpointinlife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh, man- I've been waiting for this one!!!

    • @CB-jx9pw
      @CB-jx9pw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, dude..!

  • @FrasFs
    @FrasFs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love your content Dr. Grande, keep it up 👍

  • @chewychibi03
    @chewychibi03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am in love with your content.

  • @AndreaBaixinho
    @AndreaBaixinho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was reading about Gacy yesterday evening and now a dr. Grande video? What a coincidence!

  • @helenbirdart
    @helenbirdart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had to revisit this presentation today after watching the new Netflix 3 part documentary on Gacy. There are previously unreleased confessional tapes by Gacy that are very interesting. Well worth a watch. Thank you so much Dr Grande!

  • @stephanieturner2142
    @stephanieturner2142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow this was so informative. I never knew about his past this much , this is so detailed . I wish you could make docs on hbo , this is the quality docs need

  • @christinekrebs2420
    @christinekrebs2420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an interesting (and very scary!!) person to discuss. I have always wondered what his possible diagnosis would be since he committed such horrifying crimes. Thank you for this assessment. Always so fascinating to listen to what you have to say.

    • @christinekrebs2420
      @christinekrebs2420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also wanted to add that I enjoyed your extensive amount of research of Gacy's earlier years. I had no idea that he had worked at the mortuary. The story of him with the deceased teen was so creepy! YIKES!!!

  • @denverdanoreno
    @denverdanoreno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just came across Dr Grande and find the first few videos intriguing. Regards to John Wayne Gacy, I've known about this case since 1980 and had a girlfriend in the 90s who interviewed him when she worked for Time Life she said out of five serial killers that She interviewed she feared him the most.

  • @nicholasschroeder3678
    @nicholasschroeder3678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's so impressive and chilling about him is how resilient and able he was. He must have had exceptional cunning.

  • @georgesehy8058
    @georgesehy8058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thanks Dr. Grande for such a extensive analysis of the Killer Clown. I am struck by how many young men were killed and how little investigation went on concerning Mr. Gacy even though he had those tendencies all along. And i wonder why the families of the victims didn't insist on deeper investigations. I wonder if the homophobia at the time wrote the victims off because they considered killing homosexuals as a "lesser" crime and therefore not top priority?

    • @Khymeira
      @Khymeira 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%.

  • @gsafadi2
    @gsafadi2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video Dr.Grande! Plz make the deep dive in topics of personality disorders and other mental issues, really miss them 😆👍

  • @jameswaysayquom9237
    @jameswaysayquom9237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Especially love when you do the serial killers. Very interesting insights as well as entertaining along the way... have a great night!!

  • @swearudont8669
    @swearudont8669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a a friend who I appreciate him asking me if he could be physically violent during intimate times, I can see why he would say that I do not know how to love myself. He has no desire to live with me and I agree with him about this situation because I know me better now and he was just right. So if he sees this I want him to know I don't hate him and I respect him for his honesty as always do appreciate honesty even when it hurts. I don't think people appreciate my honesty but they wouldn't.

  • @randyperfecto7468
    @randyperfecto7468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding sir , as a teenager I was fascinated with this clown and studied in the psych field as a LEO. Today ur shows remind me of the similarities these killers have. Again thank u

  • @drjohnson98
    @drjohnson98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Grande's theories are always interesting. I grew up in Chicago and remember the frenzied media speculation once victims of an unknown killer began appearing in the Des Plaines River. Then when Gacy was caught and all those bodies were found in his crawlspace it was both horrifying and a relief that the killer had finally been captured. As more details of the case have come out, it became clear that many opportunities to catch Gacy sooner were missed because of unreported suspicions or knowledge of attacks and simple failure by law enforcement to follow-up or connect dots. Sadly, because of some remarks by one near-victim who survived an assault and some dates of murders that don't line up with Gacy's whereabouts there is a plausible theory that Gacy had at least one unnamed accomplice.

  • @almightybilly
    @almightybilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    "struggle with regulating alcohol intake"😂😂😂😂

    • @almightybilly
      @almightybilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Death Embrace poor thing, you must have an emotionally absent and sexually intimate mother growing up.

    • @Zara-js9wz
      @Zara-js9wz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahaha omg so funny bitch omg
      No

    • @spiritanimal8836
      @spiritanimal8836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is that funny ffs?

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have to struggle to regulate it, you're already probably an alcoholic.
      You NEVER see that with normal drinkers.

  • @livingchariot
    @livingchariot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “The optimistic therapists club” had me laughing out loud in this dark, sleeping house. Surprised myself! Gotten into the habit of listening to Dr. Grande to relax before 🛏

  • @juliemay9295
    @juliemay9295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love your work Dr. Grande!
    I found the theory about killing off a part of himself very interesting. So perhaps he saw in those men something of himself, probably projecting assuming that internally they were just like him? He didn't like that, he doesn't like himself because he's a product of his father's abuse. So he sought to eliminate that by murder, and in doing so defeated his father. That really is fascinating. Maybe the additional sadistic behaviour would be him punishing his father also. Or he just wanted others to suffer like him. Who can tell really?
    I think it's true to say that abuse in childhood is not proportionate to the crime committed by those suffering mental illness due to that abuse. That sometimes there might be no apparent abuse. It's just how ther mind works and how humans unravel in their own individual way.

  • @catgirl6803
    @catgirl6803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I’d like to hear an opinion about the dude who shot Reagan for Jodie Foster. John Hinkley? I read people didn’t agree on the insanity defense.

    • @cloudattack3279
      @cloudattack3279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pamela Fasolo He walks the streets today, a free man.

    • @AirForceFalcons_9922
      @AirForceFalcons_9922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cloudattack3279 Can you believe that shit??!!!

    • @mikeymorrison272
      @mikeymorrison272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The insanity defense is one that has always had controversy around it. Be interesting to hear Dr. Grandes thoughts

    • @spacecowboi5466
      @spacecowboi5466 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean, i think a lot of people would shoot Reagan for Jodie Foster. i sure would.

    • @mikeymorrison272
      @mikeymorrison272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spacecowboi5466 I mean I don't think a lot of people would.

  • @Bradders-ik3vm
    @Bradders-ik3vm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This is a big one buckle up!!

    • @CanadianMonarchist
      @CanadianMonarchist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only Gacy's father had kept his belt buckled up! Then again, I know lots of guys who were spanked with belts and never grew up to rape or kill anyone.

  • @nicoolpeg7821
    @nicoolpeg7821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Girl Scout cookies with little files in them 😆 😂🇨🇦

  • @andersonbroberg3531
    @andersonbroberg3531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    me and my gf found you while we were browsing youtube and you have quickly became one of our favorite channels.

  • @elle9543
    @elle9543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Grande- I love your analysis. The program I watched said that Gacy's mom was a pharmacist!When I heard that I thought: couldn't she have just left her abusive husband? Maybe there was unequal pay. Also, during the 40s and 50s you did not simply walk away from a marriage.
    Gacy apparently sexualized torture. Cruelty was his thrill. Nothing that hasn't been said before. Glad to watch your assessment.

  • @thebaby2436
    @thebaby2436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’d be eternally grateful if you could discuss Joan Crawford.

    • @staceylili6703
      @staceylili6703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thebaby2436 that would be a good one💯❤️

    • @vickibejma1338
      @vickibejma1338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The daughter might be an interesting study too

  • @Kaigirl27
    @Kaigirl27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s crazy to think how he could have succeeded in life but no, he was crazy! I mean he could have become wealthy with the whole KFC restaurants his father-in-law owned. 😭Thank you for another great video Dr. Grande

  • @nerdieone1
    @nerdieone1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always informative. Love the small bits of wry humor.

  • @stephaniesaberhagen
    @stephaniesaberhagen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stuck in bed with pneumonia means I get to go back and watch some of the classics! Thank you for keeping me company, Dr Grande. The old background is making me feel all nostalgic.😘

  • @toweypat
    @toweypat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I wonder if Gacy sustained a brain injury from any of his father's beatings, particularly the one that knocked him unconscious. And, as I type this, I hear that he was struck in the head by a swing and suffered a blod clot in his brain. Poor kid.

  • @briesthoughts2261
    @briesthoughts2261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yay Dr. Grande!! Great video!!

  • @lightseeker134
    @lightseeker134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic video that is rich in detail with profound insight into his motivation. As a former girl guide, the files in cookies comment was golden😂😂

  • @freeroamer9768
    @freeroamer9768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Dr. Todd Grande part time phycologist full time comedian

    • @pwallace5359
      @pwallace5359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dang man, you need to change that photo 😬

    • @freeroamer9768
      @freeroamer9768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pwallace5359 but it's me

    • @squidwardtesticlesthelsdsq3204
      @squidwardtesticlesthelsdsq3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice to see the creator of french fries on youtube. Or how its called in french "Pommes Fritzl" XD

    • @stephenpmurphy591
      @stephenpmurphy591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope your basement or cellar is no longer occupied with a captive young women.....Yuck!

    • @freeroamer9768
      @freeroamer9768 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​ @Stephen P Murphy it is. I keep telling them to leave but they are so stubborn.

  • @noahschmartz2354
    @noahschmartz2354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant think of many as skilful as Dr G at telling a story in a way thats easy to follow.

  • @diana3599
    @diana3599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Gacy and Dahmer were active at a time when there was much more shame around male on male sexual assault. So it may not get reported or if it did who knows what the response of the authorities might have been. The lack of or inappropriate police response may have contributed to the success of the male on male serial killer, Bruce McArthur in Toronto Certainly the case w Dahmer. Other serial killers such as the Green River Killer have had some degree of success d/t the marginalized populations they prey upon and how their cases are prioritized.

    • @jefftaylor844
      @jefftaylor844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another great example of your point is Willy Picton in Vancouver, Canada.

  • @cherylcaardillo1702
    @cherylcaardillo1702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This analysis is excellent ty Dr.Grande