@@yamabeast5874 I'd love to see u do a comparison with the Eluder vs Goldwing, if u ever get a chance... u & Longhaul Paul probably have the best videos I've seen on this bike hands down....👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Oh, man,,,,do I love this bike! I have owned many Yamaha bikes over the years, currently own aN FJ-09 AND AN MT-07, but I absolutely love the look and features of this bike. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this video--so much great info. Nice job, buddy! You got a like and a sub from me. Thanks again!
Hi, love your review. I have the Venture Transcontinental. I got the 2.5 baffle pipes and Power commander from TAB Performance. I love them. I didn't know what a Power Commander was but, it was suggested. They do have a map for this engine specifically. Sounds great and folks can hear me now without it being too loud.
I appreciate it bud... Soon to have a riding video out but you definitely cannot go wrong with this bike.. If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a message and I can try to help out as best as I can
Will have a new exhaust one here shortly and a gps update as to fixing a slight air and i will have a riding one soon as the weather is breaking here in central PA so keep an eye out... thank you for taking time to watch this
Great review, just bought a Star Venture TC and your description is detailed and accurate as I can experience on mine. It's a wonderful bike, smooth, torquey, confortable and reliable. Thanks and keep up your good work!
How do you like it 2 years later? I have had 3 problems and they were small. New brake light switch, new starter and starter relay. Never uses a drop of oil and runs like a champ. I bought mine right too!
@Tri Pacer I don't know if your question is for me or YamaBeast 58, if for me, yes I still have it and more than satisfied with it. Just coming back from a trip to Alaska, BC, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and back to Montreal. 2 months, 24,000 km. It's comfortable, agile even loaded with all my luggage and reliable.
Great review. I've got a 2015 Yamaha FJR1300ES and a 2019 Kawasaki W800 Cafe, but I'm researching big, long distance baggers and leaning heavily to the Eluder.
I do not have any real legitimate complaints with mine I think it is absolutely a great bike and super comfortable compared to most cruisers I have sat on or road
I like the review I own the same bike but it's in silver the bike is phenomenal I've got lots of compliments here in New Hampshire on that bike they should come back with them .
My raider was fantastic the only reason i would have switched over is just for the storage and radio but the raider revs higher and is much quicker the Eluder also makes 2 up more enjoyable
Dig it. On a Vision right now looking at frame mounted fairing options. Eluder is at the top but waiting to see what Indian will do with their frame mounted fairing coming out.
Really great review, you addressed just about everything that I was curious about. I am looking to purchase one as well but have to wait for better weather before I can even take a test ride.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and respond with great feedback. As i stated it rides and runs great and if your looking for more storage and or a nice touring set up the venture starts about 2500 to 3k more and is just as great but you cant go wrong with either of these bikes!
@ Javier Origel...I can almost guarantee you'll enjoy the ride. I have ridden both the Eluder and the Venture and both were amazing. I didn't try to ride them like I ride my Raider, but I was impressed with the creature comforts and smoothness. I am waiting for the Indian ride day to ride the Chieftain. Thats the other bike Im interested in...
@@yamabeast5874 I'm curious what the horn sounds like. I find that most motorcycle horns are not really that loud and usually end up upgrading to an air horn.
@@jorigel62 i will be doing a another video in about a week as i install the new exhaust and i can add that portion in for you. This bikes horn is i believe a single horn set up and is fairly loud but i will upgrade to an air horn do the the loud pipes im putting on but it is currently fairly loud but i will add it in my next video which like i said maybe a week and a half out yet
I added the slash-cut 1.75" TAB Mufflers to my Eluder. Not obnoxiously loud so it's pissing off the neighbors at 0430, but a definite improvement to the stock muffler sound. The slash-cut really flows well with the lines of the rear end, IMO. I bought the base model though, had no need for the Sirius or Nav system. The Medium windshield I think should be the standard, but that's me... and I'd still like it a little taller for more face protection at highway speed. I prefer to wear a 1/2 helmet, but have a 3/4 for motovlogging. If you haven't already bought your passengers back rest, get the short one. The taller one looks ridiculous! Great overall review (minus the audio issues). I'm taking mine in next week for its 12000 mile oil service. The only reason I don't do my own is because I don't have a garage/carport or a level driveway. Keep it up man!
Appreciate it man. I agree with the windshield as well the the short one isnt worth anything... i did the tall backrest and i honestly was thinking the same thing about looks but once i got it on it looks a lot better than i thought
Excellent review ! I have the same bike and don't like to read :) I had most of the stuff figured out, but didn't realize the right side compartment housing the USB/AUX cords was lockable because of the cheesy plasticness of it .. I am so in love with this bike .. put 554 miles in it in the first 2 days :) My only real issues are the same as yours .. plastic lids and latches .. and the gas access lid opening backwards ... wonky :) Although, mine gets super damn hot off that left side of the motor .. even with the vent open .. 90 degrees already here in Vegas, and the road heat combined with the motor .. sizzle .. even with full height cowboy boots. Not a deal breaker though .. this bike is so EFFING fun to ride .. feels like a combo between a Ducati and a Barka lounger. I am also still in break in mode .. 600mile oil change scheduled for tomorrow .. so I haven't hit the rev limiter yet .. but the thought of that is bumming me out now ... wondering if that can be tweaked with a programmer ? The white Indian Chieftan Darkhorse was a strong runner up to my purchasing the Eluder .. took two test rides on one, but out of the box, the Eluder is more comfortable to me and is a great cross between a sporty ride and a bagger ride .. Indian had a better fit/finish, but less storage, and not as comfortable with the way I like to lay back a bit. The Indian stock seat and bars made me feel like I was in a high chair .. and the Eluder, I can sit up or slouch back low .. like I'm cruisin down main street in my multi color Ford Pinto on a friday night :D The Eluder GT was also 8k+ less :) I have a '15 Bolt R Spec too ..I've bobbed it out and put an intake and straight pipe ... and LOVE LOVE LOVE it ! I have a Power Commander for it .. must have to fix the fuel air mix with the removal of the O2 sensor and baffleless pipe .. sounds raunchy ! I've actually done more to it since this video .. made a rear fender etc.. but here that is .. th-cam.com/video/Pnwgt0o5YmM/w-d-xo.html so much fun as a bar hopper ! Husband has a Night Train and a '19 Road Glide .. which, is a sexy bike.. but I still prefer the Eluder .. and the $avings ! .. and nobody knows what either of my bikes are until you tell them !
Thank you for the kind words... i am currently at 3400 miles on mine and with the new exhaust and all the accessories ive added i cant say enough about the bike with a few of the minor details i found cheaply done... the new pipes i feel reduced some the heat on the left side but i only feel it if im sitting still for extended time.... im hoping to see if i can have my red line increased with a tune as well as overall performance
@@yamabeast5874 .. i'm looking at the zombie or no baffles so maybe that will help my heat too .. looking forward to hearing more about the results of a tuning if you have it done via dyno shop or buy a programmer and do it yourself ...
@@WoJoMoZilla most definitely i have the Zombie baffles on currently and there extremely loud... i have 2 other videos where you can hear them and i love it
amazing video! very in depth about all angles/features/characteristics of the bike! i bought a vstar 950 tourer with 1200 miles on it, and just passed 10k but want something bigger as i sit @285 LBS, would you ever recommend a raider as someone looking to graduate bike sizes? i'm stuck on the Raider/Stryker!
Thank you for the kind words but honestly if your looking between those 2 i will say youll fall in love with the raider. I personally like the styling more, at a glance you wont notice major differences until you get up close or on it. I liked where the guages were on the raider and thought it over all was cleaner.... and the 1900 motor dude you wont regret it, it is absolutely a beast and one hell of a performance machine i loved mine it has to hands down be Yamaha's best motor
I bought a transcontinental 4 months ago and love it. Had 3 Gold Wings with over 100k each and this is an awesome bike. Things I would change, the wimpy horn and the uncomfortable seat (personal). This bike is fully loaded.
I need some insight and I know this is going to be your personal opinion. I own a 06 GL1800. I love the bike, my wife loves it even more. I test rode one last Saturday. My biggest complaint is the power of the bike. I am a power junkie. Have been spoiled by my last bikes and I can’t go back. I had a 2014 BMW R1200 GSA (one of the best motorcycles I have ever owned), I had a 2015 Harley Ultra, Yamaha Raider, Yamaha Warrior, Yamaha Roadliner (currently own one now). All very powerful expect for the Harley, but she had great passing power. The Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental (SVTC) that I tried failed to impress me… especially on the passing power. From 70mph to 80 felt slow. On the get go was fun, but that fun was suddenly interrupted by the very short red line... 4750 rpms!!!!! Are you kidding me? Im only 5’7” 170lbs…riding solo, no cargo. The infotainment was not user friendly either. I was really was trying so hard to like the bike, because I like BIG BIKES… and the new 2018 Honda Goldwing got shrunk … which I hate. I love the mean looks of the Yamaha. Is a really beautiful bike. The transmission is by far the smoothest I have ever experienced on any motorcycle on my 20 years of riding, specially for a big bike like this. But the fit and finish is subpar, how hard the saddlebags are to open, the cheap plastic, the lack of power…it doesn’t feel like a 24K motorcycle. Could you please share your experience? I am not here to bash the SVTC, I’m just a very picky rider who wants the best but I’m poor LOL. If I could afford a nicer bike, I would buy the new Indian Challenger. OMG…. What a nice bike. Anyways thanks
I have owned a TC for 4 years now and really enjoy it. If it's a "dog" at 80 something is wrong with it! When I hit the sport button it flat out get down. The low RPMs keep that torque monster going down the road. It's a 1000 pound bike, it will never run like a sport bike.
Thank you for doing this video. Your are correct in your observation regarding reviews on this bike. I am looking at replacing my '08 Goldwing. My girlfriend and I were involved an accident on 3/4/2020. lady heading eastbound on the westbound lane of the Schuylkill expressway at the King of Prussia/ Pa Turn Pike interchange. I'm sure you know it, we live in Lebanon Pa. Car v's Motorcycle = not good for motorcycle. We are blessed to be alive, we are both still recovering but will heal. Anywho... I don't want to go back into a Goldwing, and, although I like Harley (I have a Dyna in the garage) I can't justify the $. If you are looking for comfort, all the tech, AND the VTwin rumble, I feel that the Yamaha Venture delivers at a great price point. Since B & B are right down the road from me, I WILL be checking them out..... Just as soon as I'm able to walk again, which I will. Again, I thank you for this review.
Sorry to hear about the accident man thats rough and hope the best for you two... check b&b, Yamaha of camp hill, and maybe the former lebabon valley cycle. Otherwise if your willing to travel a little you will be able to find a brand new 2018 at an unbeatable price point as sales slowed a bit since a lot of guys dont really know about this bike.... its super comfortable and has a mean rumble and carries itself really well
Great videos as usual, took mine out for the first time yesterday and did 200 miles. Not one ounce of fatigue. 2 questions if you don’t mind. The medium windshield, have you ever ridden without your helmet? And if so how was it. Do you think a larger one will help? To take the seat off do you have to take both the side panels off? Oh, one more. Where do you keep the spring load at? I’m 5 10 250. Thank you
I have gone out multiple times with no helmet having the tall windshield on and it makes a world of difference. As far as the seat, it is just 2 allen head bolts under the seat right near the tank you do not need to remove the sides for the... i am 5' 8" 260lbs and i have mine set at like 4 or 5 right in the middle i believe and that works well for me and when my girlfriend rides with i leave it set at that and feels more than fine
Every rider will find what works for them... for me as someone who like to hit the roads for a fun trip and ride more sporty this bike is a dream as it handles like no other bike ive ever road on and the options it came with are great
great video, I love this bike. I really enjoyed the test ride I was able to take. I am only concerned with it being the next "honda CTX 1300". I am hoping yamaha will continue to support this model down the road. If that will be the case, I will have one next year. If not, I will get a Vaquero.
Thank you for watching i appreciate you taking the time. And yes i hope Yamaha will stand behind this as i feel it will take a bit to catch on tho maybe a slightler smaller asking price to split the venture and eluder may help i dont know but i feel its a great bike personally and hope for good things out of it
@@yamabeast5874 I agree, I think the initial asking price of the Eluder could be a little lower. I am finding them for 17.5K now new for models that have been sitting in the dealership all year. I have one at my local dealership that has been sitting for a year now.
@@AnthonysWestTexasRides oh ok very nice i think tax title and tags here in Central PA i got mine out the door around 25k give or take.... another dealership was going to give me the same price on a Venture with the full TC package in red i just felt i liked the black bagger more
Thanks for the vid. Do you know of any top box options or anything at all to help strap bags to on the rear of the bike? Any guidance would be awesome. :)
Update the mods I ordered are the 8 inch windshield, highway pegs that fit on the factory crash bars, heal toe shifter and 6 inch mini ape handlebars with grips . Went with 6 so I don't have to lengthen brake clutch and electrical lines. Next mods will be a full freedom performance exhaust and a 21 inch front rim next year.
I was kind of curious to know the same thing I am not sure what all the system on the eluder allows for... I am actually going to my dealership today so I will ask the question and see if maybe they could find an answer out
I bought the venture tc also love it ,great review I wish you could turn the alam off or on when you want i always forget and pick up the bike and it gos off, its annoying .
When you park it open the gas cap and close it you will see the light on the dash blink i think 10 times and withen 10 seconds you will hear 2 beeps and thay disengages the alarm
I’m the same height as you and also wear a full face ...thinking about getting this bike...do you get any kind of buffeting with that taller windshield ..?
I get very little with the taller windshield obviously if you're at really high speeds you might get some.. The stock one is not bad at low speeds but when you start to get upwards of 60 you start to pick up a little bit that is why I added the taller windshield.. it helps a lot
Hello, thanks for the review got mine last week. Put 200 miles already. Did you have to program your own Navi or did the dealer do it for you? I have the card and access number just not a computer guy. Did the bigger windshield help when the helmet was off?
Awesome first off welcome to the club... and the navigation i did myself i bought a 32gb flash drive which one of that size is not necessary but i did not have luck with the 8 or 16 gb for some reason, pnce i had that i downloaded the software on the computer that is labeled either in the manual or on the card, your computer will then identify it and you can plug in your access code... once that is done you then plug it into your bike and go the settings and activate that code and it should start working for you if you need more help on that let me know i can try and throw a video together...... as far as the large windshield, it makes an absolute difference i thought id switch back and forth for short and long distance and i find that i keep it onn 99% of the time
@@yamabeast5874 Thanks man, You have been a big help with many things. I was a BMW rider for the last 10 years and I just thought that riding, while fun, had to be a bit uncomfortable. I am so pleased with this bike, I could not be happier. My wife and I did 200 miles last weekend and was not fatigued at all. It was almost effortless. 25 years as Chicago PD and will be retiring in a few to Arizona. I can ride all day. Thanks Again YB, much appreciated
@@CPDRV from a volunteer firefighter here in PA, good luck and happy soon retirement i wish you the best.... the bike you will find has a lot to offer in all aspects of riding... my next upgrade i am looking to do is an amplifier for my speakers so hopefully a video in the future and i just built an extra storage rack to upgrade storage space
Yes the rear seat is headed but not separately controlled like on the venture you have to set everything in the command center... the grips are not standard you have to buy them through yamaha but are easy to install
Very informative review.👍🏻 Now that you've had the bike a while, I was wondering if you've experienced any of the valve train issues I've been reading about on the Yamaha forums? I've had my Transcontinental Venture for about 2k miles now and there's a lot of clattering going on in the top end when you put a load on it at take-off. I've also read that this engine is just inherently noisy in the valve train and that's something you just have to get used to.
I personally have not noticed it but the possibility that i got use to it and not realized it could be there as well.... i have not had any issues with my bike other than the break switch issue that a handful of guys have been discussing on forums... i will have to fire my bike up when i get home and listen to it closely and get back to you.. i currently have 7500 miles on it
@@yamabeast5874 Just a follow-up. I rode my bike over to the Yamaha dealer (not the one I bought it from) to let them have a listen, but you really need to ride the bike to hear the top end tapping sound I'm talking about. Well, just as I expected, my Venture was the first one they'd ever even seen so they weren't much help. That's the thing with the Japanese brands, they usually sell multiple brands and they may not have ever seen an exclusive bike like the Venture/Eluder if they haven't sold any before. You walk into any Harley or Indian dealership and the service techs can tell you anything you want to know about their bikes off the top of their heads. The guys I spoke to today will have to look it up in a service manual just to change the oil. At any rate, they said to just ride the hell out of it and if it breaks, they'll fix it under warranty, and keep fixing it as long as it's under warranty. I didn't find that very comforting. I bought this bike to tour on so I need to trust it not to leave me stranded 500 miles from home. Well, time will tell I guess. I may just be imagining a potential problem, but I don't think so.
@@gabbyhayes1568 i have a fantastic relationship with my local dealer who only sold 1 venture and i was the 1st eluder they had ever seen or worked on and that was prior to selling the venture.. i will see what i can find out with my bike or see what they may know
Great review! Thanks! I’m in Spokane Valley Wa, and have not seen another Eluder! I’m loving mine! I just put on the tall back rest and trying to put together the Communication system but I’m having trouble finding the PTT for my passenger! Any help would be great, also Yamaha hooked up my alarm to the Comm system by mistake too!
Are you looking to buy the passenger system or do you have it? They sell it on their website. But i believe its all plug and play.... the alarm system is under the left saddle bag and is easy to access if you need to change the plug
YamaBeast 58 , i bought the extension for the passenger. Installed it, along with everything else on their site, however there’s no PTT for the passenger. I’m over the comm system. Love the bike!
@@ewledoux1 oh that's interesting. I currently use the Sena s20 so im not to familiar with the on board comms. I will have to ask my dealer as im now curious myself.
YamaBeast 58 That would be great because my dealer hasn’t a clue about it. I know they make one for the left side. The right side has the dual zone controller so your passenger can listen to something totally different than the driver. If you find out a part number I would be forever in your debt! I called J&M but they don’t have it, they only make The headsets.
@@ewledoux1 ill see what i can come up with and get back to you. I am the only one that has the Eluder that my dealer works with and they happened to call me the other day for some help haha so ill see what i can work with them and find some info
As someone who was a previous owner of a Raider myself.... How does the power between these two bikes compare? As in, am I going to feel like I made a mistake power wise?
Absolutely will not regret it the power is there. I had a 2014 raider s and i feel right at home you will notice the slight weight difference but other than that youll feel like its almost the same bike
I cant remember what i stated or if i had gone into it but i believe it is a different signal and is just for bike to bike but i could be wrong ive personally never used mine do to using in helmet coms like sena
So heres my personal opinion.... its not as terrible as people talk it up to be, there are 2 easy ways to minimize it more number 1 do a set of slip ons and get that heat flowing out faster and number 2 send your pipes out to jet hot coatings which will do more than the slip ons and is something i will be doing sometime in the near future.... i road 7 hours one way on a trip in 85 degrees and it did not bother me once while wearing jeans, i do feel it more if i wear shorts which a rare occasion... but ive seen what the jet hot coating does and hear nothing but great things about it... i have almost 12k miles on the bike and have not had a complaint yet
Yamaha have to pay you for this in depth review. I'm currently riding my FJR, but I miss the V-twin feeling of my previous VTX. So this one is on my radar for sure
Unfortunately they discontinued the Eluder but they continued the Venture...ive done so many different types of riding and have been more than pleased with its over all capabilities
@@yamabeast5874 thanks! I ride a Harley Electra glide but I want to get away from the vibrations and $$ that follows there name. I’m 5’7 , do you feel I’d reach ground comfortable? I had my HD lowered
REALLY interested in the Eluder. I am currently on a '10 Raider... 40,000 miles... Incredible bike! No storage... I like the Yamaha product. I also have a 1993 Yamaha V Max.... a true BEAST! I'm a bit concerned that the Eluder hasn't sold well. I have yet to see one on the road. Every dealership where I live that had Eluders, still have them a year later...
I heard the same thing from dealerships they told me they could be ordered once all dealers have sold them out but they wouldnt remain a typical production thing i dont know if thats true or not i personally cannot find anything wrong with it, i feel people just arent use to Yamaha being in the bagger game but going from the raider to this it feels identical in the chassis just more comfortable suspension but i think its a fantastic bike
I am concerned that the aftermarket parts selection won't be plentiful if the bike doesn't do good sales numbers. Being able to install a Razor Pack on this puppy would set it all the way off!
@@trw1024 yeah i totally understand i have seen a few places selling things as they develop them but how far or long that will go who knows. I just ordered my new exhaust which will be here in less than a week has me pretty happy... but for sure that uncertainty can be a changer depending on what youd like to have done.... i sat on a new Indian Chieftan and that would have been my next choice in either the bronze or matte white
Great video! I just purchased an identical bike last week. I've only been able to put 120 miles on it so far. Did you have to get a usb drive from Yamaha to activate the navigation? I tried an older usb drive and I can load the fingerprint from the bike to the drive but the Yamaha toolbox program won't recognize it.
Hey just picked this bike up a couple days ago, its got 2500 miles on it, have you noticed that the seat stays pretty warm even with the seat heater off? I love the bike and am just curious if others have the same experience? Thank you!
So just below your left butt cheek/thigh is your oil reservoir and that will warm up as you ride there are floor vents at the bottom of the front fairing... If you open those up it will help to reduce the heat while riding The exhaust for the rear cylinder also comes out behind your left calf so you will feel that when you are sitting still or when you are wearing shorts if you do so while right
Thank you for the reply, and thank you for your videos, they were a good part of why I went with the Eluder. There's not much out there but your videos are very helpful and much appreciated, subscribed and looking forward to more. Thanks again!
I have been waiting for the backrest mounting kit for almost a year now and this is the second season my passenger has had to go without. Do you have any specs or schematics on the mounting hardware that may help me machine my own since I'm tired of waiting on Yamaha?
@@yamabeast5874 A picture of how it looks with the backrest on and off would help. From the side of the bracket, just open the case to get the lid out of the way. I should be able to make something with views from that angle. I'm not expecting anymore than that. As many of these bikes that are probably out there it's odd that you are the only one that has any good videos on it, thanks for that.
@@yamabeast5874 So Yamaha just released the mount kit and I received it the other week. They left out the four spacers. Apparently the entire shipment is missing these spacers and they refuse to tell the distributors when they are going to send them if at all. They won't even give the size of them. All the dealer did was offer me 15% off if I keep the partial kit and source the spacers myself. Crapping customer service in my opinion. I know you don't know me or owe me anything but I'm sure I'm not the only one that is in this situation at this point and if you were able to provide the thickness and diameter of the spacers you would make me and possibly others very happy.
Super easy probably a halfhour to 45 minute job and yes they are worth it... chilly days they are great and if your doing long hauls i like to turn them to low to releave the tension in the wrists
As far as chassis and handling id say there about the same the Eluder just handles a bit better... motor is just an upgraded version of the raider so you cannot go wrong there.. the weight is higher and noticeable but not overwhelming by any means.... definitely is a worthy upgrade for the comfort and storage
If you wanted to still away your Note 8 on the tank you could actually use a surface charger I have one that's rectangular and would fit perfectly sitting behind where you placed your Note 8 Let's Play Rumor plugging it in it's actually a battery backup that's proximity charger. Just a suggestion however the Note 10 probably would not fit in that storage compartment but on the Venture there is a rear plug for charging I'm sure you could get creative and run your Port accessories to your back Apartments just fine on that bike
Yes that is something you can purchase separately through Yamaha's website it gives you a new shift pedal and then you can get the heel pedal to add onto... but you have to purchase the different forward pedal first
I just bought an Eluder as well and I am having trouble with the Navigation. I noticed when you were going through your Nav. I saw the same thing I’m getting ( Navigation Not Ready) What is up with this? I just downloaded the new software update, and it all went successfully, but now when I want to use Navigation, I’m getting that message.. If you can help me out with this, I would really appreciate it. Thanks for a great review.. Ed..
Ed thank you for watching and the positive review. I am currently in the process of working on that i notice the gps is working as i ride, it knows what streets im on so i think it may need reset. I plan to work on that this weekend i will message you as soon as i can figure it out. I want to get it fixed before my exhaust come monday for it.
YamaBeast 58 Yea, let me know if you can get it figured out. I can’t get my Navigation to work at all.. Like I said, I just get that message. I’m going to call the Dealer tomorrow and talk to service to see if they have any insight of the problem.. Thanks for getting back to me...
@@edmaggiacomo4810 no problem, i called my dealer and they gave me some info so i can try something before having to take it all the way to them so ill definitely get back to you by the end of tomorrow once i see what i can do
@@edmaggiacomo4810 hey boss im still currently attempting a couple things i had detached the antenna to see if that did anything and that failed... i am trying to redownload the yamaha toolbox but am running into laptop issue that i am hoping to resolve today and see if i can get something worked out ill get back to you as soon as i fix it or run into a deadened beyond my capabilities
YamaBeast 58 Thanks a lot.. Yea, I’m going to call the Yamaha support hot line tomorrow and see what they say.. I know there are other guys out there that are having the same problem.. Yamaha has really not said anything about it that I know of.. I just want get this thing working.. Again, thanks for keeping me posted...
I have been looking and I cannot find an honest comparison between this Yamaha and the new Indian Challenger. I would find it very interesting because the Challenger and this bike are probably closest competition to each other.
@@jj.4167 as of right now Yamaha has the best with a 11% failure rate and Honda has a 12%... so i will say Yamaha comes out on top for longest lasting engine
@@jj.4167 ive only owned Yamaha's. Ive been on some of the smaller Honda's so i dont know that i can speak on those overall. Ive had 3 different bikes now by Yamaha because i felt there over all performance and maintenance was the best, friends that have had Yamaha's for years with high mileage on them have had nothing but good things to say about there motors...but with any motor you get out of it what you put into it, i dont know a lot about Honda's nor do i have many friends that ride them
Good for a stock system there is room for improvement but if you plan to upgrade exhaust pipes then speakers with an amp would help but i can still cruise about 75 and still hear my system over the zombie baffles
Hey man I messaged you earlier on a different video I think about buying and bike from Florida. Anyways seller couldn't find sissy bar keys. He sent me pic of keys. Yours have 3 numbers on it also?
@@yamabeast5874 yes it's definitely stock haha you know they don't have any aftermarket parts for this thing. And I'm upset they discontinued the heal toe shifter after I bought the heal shifter! Lol
@@jeffreys704916 ive seen some who have modified others to fit thats why i asked.... the stock one new comes with a kit for the key tumbler so it can be set to the fob key
Honestly probably close to the seat height just a bit heavier but manageable im 5'8" and sit very comfortably and ive been on rides with guys a good bit shorter and they do just fine
@@yamabeast5874 oh that's nice. I'm a little scared of the weight, especially in parking. I used to ride Royal Star classic but it was 40kilograms lighter. how do you feel about this weight?😄
@Michu 93 sorry haha i had to do the conversion there since we use pounds .... youll feel the weight no doubt but it won't be so drastic that you will be fine with it in a short period of time
@Michu 93 one thing to note is that 2018 is the only year the eluder was made... i love this bike, i have around 20k miles on it and have loved evey mile.... i do wish i went with the venture but thats just for storage space but i cant say anything negative about it... i had a raider prior to it so it just feels right at home
@@yamabeast5874 That's great to hear. There's a lot to like about these bikes, they overpriced them and did a TERRIBLE job of marketing them.... JMHO. "Emotional V-Twin", sounds like something you see a doctor to have removed.
You get some good heat radiating from the motor and the left pipe if your sitting still for a little while but when moving you lose that but i havent found it to be an issue in the 2800 miles ive put on this bike
@@DJGENOTYPE I have not found at any point that my raider or my eluder (both having the same 1900cc sized V Twin) has or had shown any decrease in power... it may on a dyno or some other computer system but ive not been able to feel a decrease in power and ive road on some hot days... on another note i have had it shut off in traffic from warming up to much at idle and the computer is to auto shutoff to prevent damage and in that case you turn your key off then back on to reset and continue on
Honestly liquid cooled is just one more thing to go wrong... after riding both there is not q big enough difference and its nice not having to worry about leaks or failures in the system
Why did they drop the V4? Makes no sense to me.....they have the Vmax 17 motor, it is a perfect example of Yamaha's technical prowess. They could have had a home run.
Unsure of why they chose to other than it produces more tourqe than the old venture in a better more reliable motor with less moving parts . As an owner with over 10k miles on this motor and 6 or so thousand on the older version of this motor i.e. the raider motor i believe its probably the best motor on the market. Do i wish this eluder pushed a little more? Absolutely but this bike has done its fair share of proving that the 2 cylinder v twin is an absolute monster
@@yamabeast5874 - there is no way that a V-Twin is "better more reliable motor" than Yamaha's V4. V-twin engine characteristics suit low speed crusing, and straight line acceleration (and throttle blipping). When you are exiting a sweeper and you start accelerating you want linear power to help stand the bike up, not peak torque! The V-twin is all about the sound and the rumble, it is an inferior motorcycle motor for everything but slow speed slalom courses. I wish Yamaha would listen to thier loyal followers and not try to ripoff Harley Davidson. If we wanted an ancient technology motor with a 45lb crankshaft we would buy a Harley. Sales data shows that the Venture missed the mark, time to go back to the V4.
@@aioesj yeah idk the whole back story on why they did it but ill be honest as far as the bagger goes anything other than this motor would have not done this bike justice.... And from the recent owners group ride that I was involved with in vermont the owners of the venture had nothing but good things to say about it come from the older ones or bikes similar thats been my experience so far..... As far as power coming out of turns this bike eats up turns no problem
You are correct i miss spoke not sure where that came from i think i may have been thinking about my raider or had it written wrong in the board but its between 75 and 80
Im tossed on it i feel like the design is definitely one of its own i wish airflow was better but that can be fixed with the side fairings you can add on but i hear what your saying... it would have to be something i would have to see to judge it
Cyclecruza talked about a case where debris flew into someones kneecap while riding. Thats why i an looking at this bike and roadglide which both have these lower
I just feel like a bike this size and weight with such LITTLE horsepower would be a huge issue for me. Most of my bikes have been in the 140hp range, I couldn't imagine driving a 900 pound mororcycle with 80hp? Seems like it should have at least 130hp.
Honestly the place i feel it lacks is the rev range... but it has great power.... now you can get it flashed and have that all unlocked and it pulls really well.... i ride 2 up with my fiance and luggage to do weekend rides and we total over 1000lbs plus and this bike still pulls on a bunch of harleys
only if yamaha road star 1700 had ABS brakes the would be the last bike any would own. hmmm now if had bit more money I would buy eluder and never look back..
I want one, but I wont buy one until I see yamaha supporting their decision to venture into the big bike business and continue production...so far it looks like they have thrown in the towel and have foregone any further production beyond 2018... Im not going to buy a bke that was only prduced for one year....not a smart choice
Hey, don't you know you have to throw your hands around like a tweeker when doing a Y/T review?! It was way too easy to pay attention to what you were saying.
i was always loving the f6b then i saw this and was blown away from the looks then i heard its air cooled and hot and now you say its belt drive hahahahahah why would they do that? f6b here i come. I have more storage in my 2003 st1300 panniers
The heat for me is not a deal breaker and there are ways to get around it... i cant stand the bag design of the f6b with the doors flipping outward i feel top load is way better but some bikes arent for everyone... best of luck with your decision and ride safe
Beautiful bagger! One of the best looking bikes Yamaha ever made IMO
This is the most useful information on the web about this bike THANK You . 👍👍
Thank you very much... new exhaust and some other info coming asap hoping to have loaded this evening
@@yamabeast5874 I'd love to see u do a comparison with the Eluder vs Goldwing, if u ever get a chance... u & Longhaul Paul probably have the best videos I've seen on this bike hands down....👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Oh, man,,,,do I love this bike! I have owned many Yamaha bikes over the years, currently own aN FJ-09 AND AN MT-07, but I absolutely love the look and features of this bike. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this video--so much great info. Nice job, buddy! You got a like and a sub from me. Thanks again!
Greatly appreciate the kind words and thank you for watching i hope future content will be as good
Hi, love your review. I have the Venture Transcontinental. I got the 2.5 baffle pipes and Power commander from TAB Performance. I love them. I didn't know what a Power Commander was but, it was suggested. They do have a map for this engine specifically. Sounds great and folks can hear me now without it being too loud.
Good review. Thanks man. I'm shopping around for an Eluder right now and this info helped.
I appreciate it bud... Soon to have a riding video out but you definitely cannot go wrong with this bike.. If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a message and I can try to help out as best as I can
Watched your video and had my local dealer track me down a new in crate 2018 eluder GT black and I'm modding it immediately! 👍
Hell yeah good luck with it... youll fall in love
Excellent Review!!! Thank you for the time you put into this, if you have any updates, don't be afraid to post them!!!
Will have a new exhaust one here shortly and a gps update as to fixing a slight air and i will have a riding one soon as the weather is breaking here in central PA so keep an eye out... thank you for taking time to watch this
New exhaust video is jow uploaded hope you enjoy
New exhaust video is up hope you enjoy it
Fixed fairing like the Road Glide?
Great review, just bought a Star Venture TC and your description is detailed and accurate as I can experience on mine. It's a wonderful bike, smooth, torquey, confortable and reliable. Thanks and keep up your good work!
Thank you for the kind words hoping to get some more videos done soon
How do you like it 2 years later? I have had 3 problems and they were small. New brake light switch, new starter and starter relay. Never uses a drop of oil and runs like a champ. I bought mine right too!
Do you find it cooler to ride than your Goldwings? Mine is way cooler than my 1985 Goldwing, that thing put out some heat in all conditions.
@Tri Pacer I don't know if your question is for me or YamaBeast 58, if for me, yes I still have it and more than satisfied with it. Just coming back from a trip to Alaska, BC, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and back to Montreal. 2 months, 24,000 km. It's comfortable, agile even loaded with all my luggage and reliable.
@@691053 Thanks so much for taking the time to reply!!
Great review. I've got a 2015 Yamaha FJR1300ES and a 2019 Kawasaki W800 Cafe, but I'm researching big, long distance baggers and leaning heavily to the Eluder.
I do not have any real legitimate complaints with mine I think it is absolutely a great bike and super comfortable compared to most cruisers I have sat on or road
I like the review I own the same bike but it's in silver the bike is phenomenal I've got lots of compliments here in New Hampshire on that bike they should come back with them .
I was looking at the Eluder and still do but just love my Raider.
My raider was fantastic the only reason i would have switched over is just for the storage and radio but the raider revs higher and is much quicker the Eluder also makes 2 up more enjoyable
WOW this is better then professional moto reviews. No bs and straight to the point
Thanks for the kind words
Good review man I have a 14 street glide right now but my woman wants something more comfy for long trips been looking at the star venture.
Our team at V-gang.com loved your review. this is a great one, every aspect covered.
Thank you very much for the kind words. I hope after this pandemic issue starts to go away that i can get some more content out there with this bike
I Just Purchased A Harley Street Glide... However I'm Really Thinking About Adding That One To Start My Collection... Great Video.👍🏾
It really is a sweet machine
This may be the best video on TH-cam I've seen in my life ever. Dude you should do that professionally.
I’m a Harley guy but I have to say that I just love the looks of this bike.
They ride better than they look haha
good review thanks for sharing
Dig it. On a Vision right now looking at frame mounted fairing options. Eluder is at the top but waiting to see what Indian will do with their frame mounted fairing coming out.
I will have to look that up... i personally prefer frame mounted version vs bar mounted
Really great review, you addressed just about everything that I was curious about. I am looking to purchase one as well but have to wait for better weather before I can even take a test ride.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and respond with great feedback. As i stated it rides and runs great and if your looking for more storage and or a nice touring set up the venture starts about 2500 to 3k more and is just as great but you cant go wrong with either of these bikes!
Is there anything else you were curious about that i may not have addressed in this video?
@ Javier Origel...I can almost guarantee you'll enjoy the ride. I have ridden both the Eluder and the Venture and both were amazing. I didn't try to ride them like I ride my Raider, but I was impressed with the creature comforts and smoothness. I am waiting for the Indian ride day to ride the Chieftain. Thats the other bike Im interested in...
@@yamabeast5874 I'm curious what the horn sounds like. I find that most motorcycle horns are not really that loud and usually end up upgrading to an air horn.
@@jorigel62 i will be doing a another video in about a week as i install the new exhaust and i can add that portion in for you. This bikes horn is i believe a single horn set up and is fairly loud but i will upgrade to an air horn do the the loud pipes im putting on but it is currently fairly loud but i will add it in my next video which like i said maybe a week and a half out yet
thank you and thumbs up from Romania!!!
Thank you for taking the time to watch
I added the slash-cut 1.75" TAB Mufflers to my Eluder. Not obnoxiously loud so it's pissing off the neighbors at 0430, but a definite improvement to the stock muffler sound. The slash-cut really flows well with the lines of the rear end, IMO. I bought the base model though, had no need for the Sirius or Nav system. The Medium windshield I think should be the standard, but that's me... and I'd still like it a little taller for more face protection at highway speed. I prefer to wear a 1/2 helmet, but have a 3/4 for motovlogging. If you haven't already bought your passengers back rest, get the short one. The taller one looks ridiculous! Great overall review (minus the audio issues). I'm taking mine in next week for its 12000 mile oil service. The only reason I don't do my own is because I don't have a garage/carport or a level driveway. Keep it up man!
Appreciate it man. I agree with the windshield as well the the short one isnt worth anything... i did the tall backrest and i honestly was thinking the same thing about looks but once i got it on it looks a lot better than i thought
Awesome review Sir!!
Thank you
Excellent review ! I have the same bike and don't like to read :) I had most of the stuff figured out, but didn't realize the right side compartment housing the USB/AUX cords was lockable because of the cheesy plasticness of it ..
I am so in love with this bike .. put 554 miles in it in the first 2 days :) My only real issues are the same as yours .. plastic lids and latches .. and the gas access lid opening backwards ... wonky :)
Although, mine gets super damn hot off that left side of the motor .. even with the vent open .. 90 degrees already here in Vegas, and the road heat combined with the motor .. sizzle .. even with full height cowboy boots. Not a deal breaker though .. this bike is so EFFING fun to ride .. feels like a combo between a Ducati and a Barka lounger.
I am also still in break in mode .. 600mile oil change scheduled for tomorrow .. so I haven't hit the rev limiter yet .. but the thought of that is bumming me out now ... wondering if that can be tweaked with a programmer ?
The white Indian Chieftan Darkhorse was a strong runner up to my purchasing the Eluder .. took two test rides on one, but out of the box, the Eluder is more comfortable to me and is a great cross between a sporty ride and a bagger ride .. Indian had a better fit/finish, but less storage, and not as comfortable with the way I like to lay back a bit. The Indian stock seat and bars made me feel like I was in a high chair .. and the Eluder, I can sit up or slouch back low .. like I'm cruisin down main street in my multi color Ford Pinto on a friday night :D The Eluder GT was also 8k+ less :)
I have a '15 Bolt R Spec too ..I've bobbed it out and put an intake and straight pipe ... and LOVE LOVE LOVE it !
I have a Power Commander for it .. must have to fix the fuel air mix with the removal of the O2 sensor and baffleless pipe .. sounds raunchy ! I've actually done more to it since this video .. made a rear fender etc.. but here that is .. th-cam.com/video/Pnwgt0o5YmM/w-d-xo.html so much fun as a bar hopper ! Husband has a Night Train and a '19 Road Glide .. which, is a sexy bike.. but I still prefer the Eluder .. and the $avings !
.. and nobody knows what either of my bikes are until you tell them !
Thank you for the kind words... i am currently at 3400 miles on mine and with the new exhaust and all the accessories ive added i cant say enough about the bike with a few of the minor details i found cheaply done... the new pipes i feel reduced some the heat on the left side but i only feel it if im sitting still for extended time.... im hoping to see if i can have my red line increased with a tune as well as overall performance
@@yamabeast5874 .. i'm looking at the zombie or no baffles so maybe that will help my heat too .. looking forward to hearing more about the results of a tuning if you have it done via dyno shop or buy a programmer and do it yourself ...
@@WoJoMoZilla most definitely i have the Zombie baffles on currently and there extremely loud... i have 2 other videos where you can hear them and i love it
amazing video! very in depth about all angles/features/characteristics of the bike! i bought a vstar 950 tourer with 1200 miles on it, and just passed 10k but want something bigger as i sit @285 LBS, would you ever recommend a raider as someone looking to graduate bike sizes? i'm stuck on the Raider/Stryker!
Thank you for the kind words but honestly if your looking between those 2 i will say youll fall in love with the raider. I personally like the styling more, at a glance you wont notice major differences until you get up close or on it. I liked where the guages were on the raider and thought it over all was cleaner.... and the 1900 motor dude you wont regret it, it is absolutely a beast and one hell of a performance machine i loved mine it has to hands down be Yamaha's best motor
Great video, but I agree that gas tank panel is opening the wrong way. I can see it's in the way, even without an actual hose and nozzle.
I bought a transcontinental 4 months ago and love it. Had 3 Gold Wings with over 100k each and this is an awesome bike. Things I would change, the wimpy horn and the uncomfortable seat (personal). This bike is fully loaded.
I need some insight and I know this is going to be your personal opinion. I own a 06 GL1800. I love the bike, my wife loves it even more. I test rode one last Saturday. My biggest complaint is the power of the bike. I am a power junkie. Have been spoiled by my last bikes and I can’t go back. I had a 2014 BMW R1200 GSA (one of the best motorcycles I have ever owned), I had a 2015 Harley Ultra, Yamaha Raider, Yamaha Warrior, Yamaha Roadliner (currently own one now). All very powerful expect for the Harley, but she had great passing power. The Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental (SVTC) that I tried failed to impress me… especially on the passing power. From 70mph to 80 felt slow. On the get go was fun, but that fun was suddenly interrupted by the very short red line... 4750 rpms!!!!! Are you kidding me? Im only 5’7” 170lbs…riding solo, no cargo. The infotainment was not user friendly either.
I was really was trying so hard to like the bike, because I like BIG BIKES… and the new 2018 Honda Goldwing got shrunk … which I hate. I love the mean looks of the Yamaha. Is a really beautiful bike. The transmission is by far the smoothest I have ever experienced on any motorcycle on my 20 years of riding, specially for a big bike like this. But the fit and finish is subpar, how hard the saddlebags are to open, the cheap plastic, the lack of power…it doesn’t feel like a 24K motorcycle. Could you please share your experience? I am not here to bash the SVTC, I’m just a very picky rider who wants the best but I’m poor LOL. If I could afford a nicer bike, I would buy the new Indian Challenger. OMG…. What a nice bike. Anyways thanks
I have owned a TC for 4 years now and really enjoy it. If it's a "dog" at 80 something is wrong with it! When I hit the sport button it flat out get down. The low RPMs keep that torque monster going down the road. It's a 1000 pound bike, it will never run like a sport bike.
Thank you for doing this video. Your are correct in your observation regarding reviews on this bike.
I am looking at replacing my '08 Goldwing. My girlfriend and I were involved an accident on 3/4/2020. lady heading eastbound on the westbound lane of the Schuylkill expressway at the King of Prussia/ Pa Turn Pike interchange. I'm sure you know it, we live in Lebanon Pa. Car v's Motorcycle = not good for motorcycle. We are blessed to be alive, we are both still recovering but will heal.
Anywho... I don't want to go back into a Goldwing, and, although I like Harley (I have a Dyna in the garage) I can't justify the $. If you are looking for comfort, all the tech, AND the VTwin rumble, I feel that the Yamaha Venture delivers at a great price point. Since B & B are right down the road from me, I WILL be checking them out..... Just as soon as I'm able to walk again, which I will.
Again, I thank you for this review.
Sorry to hear about the accident man thats rough and hope the best for you two... check b&b, Yamaha of camp hill, and maybe the former lebabon valley cycle. Otherwise if your willing to travel a little you will be able to find a brand new 2018 at an unbeatable price point as sales slowed a bit since a lot of guys dont really know about this bike.... its super comfortable and has a mean rumble and carries itself really well
Great videos as usual, took mine out for the first time yesterday and did 200 miles. Not one ounce of fatigue. 2 questions if you don’t mind. The medium windshield, have you ever ridden without your helmet? And if so how was it. Do you think a larger one will help? To take the seat off do you have to take both the side panels off? Oh, one more. Where do you keep the spring load at? I’m 5 10 250. Thank you
I have gone out multiple times with no helmet having the tall windshield on and it makes a world of difference. As far as the seat, it is just 2 allen head bolts under the seat right near the tank you do not need to remove the sides for the... i am 5' 8" 260lbs and i have mine set at like 4 or 5 right in the middle i believe and that works well for me and when my girlfriend rides with i leave it set at that and feels more than fine
Thank you for the video....
Nice review...beautiful unique bike. I think amenities are better than the GW.
Every rider will find what works for them... for me as someone who like to hit the roads for a fun trip and ride more sporty this bike is a dream as it handles like no other bike ive ever road on and the options it came with are great
great video, I love this bike. I really enjoyed the test ride I was able to take. I am only concerned with it being the next "honda CTX 1300". I am hoping yamaha will continue to support this model down the road. If that will be the case, I will have one next year. If not, I will get a Vaquero.
Thank you for watching i appreciate you taking the time. And yes i hope Yamaha will stand behind this as i feel it will take a bit to catch on tho maybe a slightler smaller asking price to split the venture and eluder may help i dont know but i feel its a great bike personally and hope for good things out of it
@@yamabeast5874 I agree, I think the initial asking price of the Eluder could be a little lower. I am finding them for 17.5K now new for models that have been sitting in the dealership all year. I have one at my local dealership that has been sitting for a year now.
@@AnthonysWestTexasRides oh ok very nice i think tax title and tags here in Central PA i got mine out the door around 25k give or take.... another dealership was going to give me the same price on a Venture with the full TC package in red i just felt i liked the black bagger more
@@AnthonysWestTexasRides new exhaust video is uploaded i hope you enjoy
i have a honda f6b,i like the honda but i like the look of this one.Might be taking a test ride when it warms up.
Its definitely a beast and an awesome ride
Great review
Thank you
Great review.. i ride ktm Superduke R my lady wants to ride leaning hard on the eluder gt. Is the back rest oem..
It is but has to be purchased seperate
Do a review on a 2004 Yamaha Venture Royal Star 1300 cc. Thank you Bro. Just bought one 3 days ago. I'm in Texas
Thanks for the vid. Do you know of any top box options or anything at all to help strap bags to on the rear of the bike? Any guidance would be awesome. :)
I have some more videos recorded and lne covers a custome rack i built for jt
Can you review the V-max ?
I appreciate it very much.
Update the mods I ordered are the 8 inch windshield, highway pegs that fit on the factory crash bars, heal toe shifter and 6 inch mini ape handlebars with grips . Went with 6 so I don't have to lengthen brake clutch and electrical lines. Next mods will be a full freedom performance exhaust and a 21 inch front rim next year.
Nice
Put Freedom exhaust on mine, sound great and look awsome
Great looking bike and enjoy the videos. Does this bike have Bluetooth and with what connectivity ?
Has Bluetooth for audio and i think you can read texts on the screen and if you have the hookup into the bike you can call on your phone i believe
Damn you look taller than 5'8 bro great review
Haha thanks
I'm wondering, how difficult would it be to install the same windshield system that the Venture has? It should be plug and play also?
I was kind of curious to know the same thing I am not sure what all the system on the eluder allows for... I am actually going to my dealership today so I will ask the question and see if maybe they could find an answer out
I bought the venture tc also love it ,great review I wish you could turn the alam off or on when you want i always forget and pick up the bike and it gos off, its annoying .
When you park it open the gas cap and close it you will see the light on the dash blink i think 10 times and withen 10 seconds you will hear 2 beeps and thay disengages the alarm
Great video.
I’m the same height as you and also wear a full face ...thinking about getting this bike...do you get any kind of buffeting with that taller windshield ..?
I get very little with the taller windshield obviously if you're at really high speeds you might get some.. The stock one is not bad at low speeds but when you start to get upwards of 60 you start to pick up a little bit that is why I added the taller windshield.. it helps a lot
Hello, thanks for the review got mine last week. Put 200 miles already. Did you have to program your own Navi or did the dealer do it for you? I have the card and access number just not a computer guy. Did the bigger windshield help when the helmet was off?
Awesome first off welcome to the club... and the navigation i did myself i bought a 32gb flash drive which one of that size is not necessary but i did not have luck with the 8 or 16 gb for some reason, pnce i had that i downloaded the software on the computer that is labeled either in the manual or on the card, your computer will then identify it and you can plug in your access code... once that is done you then plug it into your bike and go the settings and activate that code and it should start working for you if you need more help on that let me know i can try and throw a video together...... as far as the large windshield, it makes an absolute difference i thought id switch back and forth for short and long distance and i find that i keep it onn 99% of the time
@@yamabeast5874 Thanks man, You have been a big help with many things. I was a BMW rider for the last 10 years and I just thought that riding, while fun, had to be a bit uncomfortable. I am so pleased with this bike, I could not be happier. My wife and I did 200 miles last weekend and was not fatigued at all. It was almost effortless. 25 years as Chicago PD and will be retiring in a few to Arizona. I can ride all day. Thanks Again YB, much appreciated
@@CPDRV from a volunteer firefighter here in PA, good luck and happy soon retirement i wish you the best.... the bike you will find has a lot to offer in all aspects of riding... my next upgrade i am looking to do is an amplifier for my speakers so hopefully a video in the future and i just built an extra storage rack to upgrade storage space
Hi, does Eluder have heated passenger seat like Venture?
Also are heated grips as standart?
Yes the rear seat is headed but not separately controlled like on the venture you have to set everything in the command center... the grips are not standard you have to buy them through yamaha but are easy to install
I'd love to get this bike....
Very informative review.👍🏻 Now that you've had the bike a while, I was wondering if you've experienced any of the valve train issues I've been reading about on the Yamaha forums? I've had my Transcontinental Venture for about 2k miles now and there's a lot of clattering going on in the top end when you put a load on it at take-off. I've also read that this engine is just inherently noisy in the valve train and that's something you just have to get used to.
I personally have not noticed it but the possibility that i got use to it and not realized it could be there as well.... i have not had any issues with my bike other than the break switch issue that a handful of guys have been discussing on forums... i will have to fire my bike up when i get home and listen to it closely and get back to you.. i currently have 7500 miles on it
@@yamabeast5874 Just a follow-up. I rode my bike over to the Yamaha dealer (not the one I bought it from) to let them have a listen, but you really need to ride the bike to hear the top end tapping sound I'm talking about. Well, just as I expected, my Venture was the first one they'd ever even seen so they weren't much help.
That's the thing with the Japanese brands, they usually sell multiple brands and they may not have ever seen an exclusive bike like the Venture/Eluder if they haven't sold any before. You walk into any Harley or Indian dealership and the service techs can tell you anything you want to know about their bikes off the top of their heads. The guys I spoke to today will have to look it up in a service manual just to change the oil.
At any rate, they said to just ride the hell out of it and if it breaks, they'll fix it under warranty, and keep fixing it as long as it's under warranty. I didn't find that very comforting. I bought this bike to tour on so I need to trust it not to leave me stranded 500 miles from home. Well, time will tell I guess. I may just be imagining a potential problem, but I don't think so.
@@gabbyhayes1568 i have a fantastic relationship with my local dealer who only sold 1 venture and i was the 1st eluder they had ever seen or worked on and that was prior to selling the venture.. i will see what i can find out with my bike or see what they may know
Great review! Thanks! I’m in Spokane Valley Wa, and have not seen another Eluder! I’m loving mine! I just put on the tall back rest and trying to put together the Communication system but I’m having trouble finding the PTT for my passenger! Any help would be great, also Yamaha hooked up my alarm to the Comm system by mistake too!
Are you looking to buy the passenger system or do you have it? They sell it on their website. But i believe its all plug and play.... the alarm system is under the left saddle bag and is easy to access if you need to change the plug
YamaBeast 58 , i bought the extension for the passenger. Installed it, along with everything else on their site, however there’s no PTT for the passenger. I’m over the comm system. Love the bike!
@@ewledoux1 oh that's interesting. I currently use the Sena s20 so im not to familiar with the on board comms. I will have to ask my dealer as im now curious myself.
YamaBeast 58 That would be great because my dealer hasn’t a clue about it. I know they make one for the left side. The right side has the dual zone controller so your passenger can listen to something totally different than the driver. If you find out a part number I would be forever in your debt! I called J&M but they don’t have it, they only make The headsets.
@@ewledoux1 ill see what i can come up with and get back to you. I am the only one that has the Eluder that my dealer works with and they happened to call me the other day for some help haha so ill see what i can work with them and find some info
I love that bike!
6k awesome miles so far
As someone who was a previous owner of a Raider myself.... How does the power between these two bikes compare? As in, am I going to feel like I made a mistake power wise?
Absolutely will not regret it the power is there. I had a 2014 raider s and i feel right at home you will notice the slight weight difference but other than that youll feel like its almost the same bike
Looking at trading my Kawasaki Vulcan s in on a 2018.i hope it rides good.
I absolutely love it every time i get on it
I know is a dumb question but you said CB it that the same CB trucks use or is it a different Frequency
I cant remember what i stated or if i had gone into it but i believe it is a different signal and is just for bike to bike but i could be wrong ive personally never used mine do to using in helmet coms like sena
How is the engine heat looking for a new bike but I really don't want unbearable engine heat
So heres my personal opinion.... its not as terrible as people talk it up to be, there are 2 easy ways to minimize it more number 1 do a set of slip ons and get that heat flowing out faster and number 2 send your pipes out to jet hot coatings which will do more than the slip ons and is something i will be doing sometime in the near future.... i road 7 hours one way on a trip in 85 degrees and it did not bother me once while wearing jeans, i do feel it more if i wear shorts which a rare occasion... but ive seen what the jet hot coating does and hear nothing but great things about it... i have almost 12k miles on the bike and have not had a complaint yet
Yamaha have to pay you for this in depth review. I'm currently riding my FJR, but I miss the V-twin feeling of my previous VTX. So this one is on my radar for sure
You will not regret your decision haha
@@yamabeast5874 yeah, I have like 3 more years till I hit 100k miles... so got plenty of time for thought 😂
Great video! Do they make these any more ? How are they for in city riding ?
Unfortunately they discontinued the Eluder but they continued the Venture...ive done so many different types of riding and have been more than pleased with its over all capabilities
@@yamabeast5874 thanks! I ride a Harley Electra glide but I want to get away from the vibrations and $$ that follows there name. I’m 5’7 , do you feel I’d reach ground comfortable? I had my HD lowered
if you buy the regular Eluder , can you buy the GT package later and install It your self ?
Yes you can or you can just pick certain features up from there website and install them
Awesome review brother. I was looking for a way to message you privately, but if I may...how much did you pay for yours?
Around 24 or 25k with tax title tags i dont remember exact numbers but ive been seeing them brand new for between 14 and 17k
REALLY interested in the Eluder. I am currently on a '10 Raider... 40,000 miles... Incredible bike! No storage... I like the Yamaha product. I also have a 1993 Yamaha V Max.... a true BEAST! I'm a bit concerned that the Eluder hasn't sold well. I have yet to see one on the road. Every dealership where I live that had Eluders, still have them a year later...
I heard the same thing from dealerships they told me they could be ordered once all dealers have sold them out but they wouldnt remain a typical production thing i dont know if thats true or not i personally cannot find anything wrong with it, i feel people just arent use to Yamaha being in the bagger game but going from the raider to this it feels identical in the chassis just more comfortable suspension but i think its a fantastic bike
I am concerned that the aftermarket parts selection won't be plentiful if the bike doesn't do good sales numbers. Being able to install a Razor Pack on this puppy would set it all the way off!
@@trw1024 yeah i totally understand i have seen a few places selling things as they develop them but how far or long that will go who knows. I just ordered my new exhaust which will be here in less than a week has me pretty happy... but for sure that uncertainty can be a changer depending on what youd like to have done.... i sat on a new Indian Chieftan and that would have been my next choice in either the bronze or matte white
@@trw1024 i just uploaded the new exhaust video i hope you enjoy
Are you pleased with the sound of the new exhaust?@@yamabeast5874
Great video! I just purchased an identical bike last week. I've only been able to put 120 miles on it so far. Did you have to get a usb drive from Yamaha to activate the navigation? I tried an older usb drive and I can load the fingerprint from the bike to the drive but the Yamaha toolbox program won't recognize it.
I bought a new one and got either a 32 or 64gb because a lot of my older ones would not identify
I'll try that. Thanks for the info!
@@Wilson778 your welcome if it dosent work get back to me
Beautiful bike
Thank you
Hey just picked this bike up a couple days ago, its got 2500 miles on it, have you noticed that the seat stays pretty warm even with the seat heater off? I love the bike and am just curious if others have the same experience? Thank you!
So just below your left butt cheek/thigh is your oil reservoir and that will warm up as you ride there are floor vents at the bottom of the front fairing... If you open those up it will help to reduce the heat while riding The exhaust for the rear cylinder also comes out behind your left calf so you will feel that when you are sitting still or when you are wearing shorts if you do so while right
Thank you for the reply, and thank you for your videos, they were a good part of why I went with the Eluder. There's not much out there but your videos are very helpful and much appreciated, subscribed and looking forward to more. Thanks again!
@@SendNoodNoDudes Thank you and I hope you enjoy your bike and I greatly appreciate you watch in the videos
I have been waiting for the backrest mounting kit for almost a year now and this is the second season my passenger has had to go without. Do you have any specs or schematics on the mounting hardware that may help me machine my own since I'm tired of waiting on Yamaha?
Id have to take a look, there are 4 disk brackets and 4 bolts
@@yamabeast5874 A picture of how it looks with the backrest on and off would help. From the side of the bracket, just open the case to get the lid out of the way. I should be able to make something with views from that angle. I'm not expecting anymore than that. As many of these bikes that are probably out there it's odd that you are the only one that has any good videos on it, thanks for that.
@@yamabeast5874 So Yamaha just released the mount kit and I received it the other week. They left out the four spacers. Apparently the entire shipment is missing these spacers and they refuse to tell the distributors when they are going to send them if at all. They won't even give the size of them. All the dealer did was offer me 15% off if I keep the partial kit and source the spacers myself. Crapping customer service in my opinion. I know you don't know me or owe me anything but I'm sure I'm not the only one that is in this situation at this point and if you were able to provide the thickness and diameter of the spacers you would make me and possibly others very happy.
Could an s&s crate motor be dropped in if ya wanted???
Id assume you probably could woth some modifications to the frame for motor mounts
I just can't believe that they didn't add the reverse gear to this bike. I keep waiting to see if it will be added on the 2019's but I'm doubtful.
I totally agree i do have a call into my dealer to see what the cost and capabilities are of adding it
It does have reverse, at least mine does.
I am considering adding heated grips to my Eluder. How easy are they to add, and are they worth it?
Super easy probably a halfhour to 45 minute job and yes they are worth it... chilly days they are great and if your doing long hauls i like to turn them to low to releave the tension in the wrists
I almost never use mine, but I ride with gloves.....
Nice review. Did you say you were 5'8" tall with a size 14 shoe?
So in nike for some reason i run a size 14 in everything else a 13 ... the cut in the shoes ran a little differently
@@yamabeast5874 13 is my size also, however I'm 6'1" and until I hit about 60 my shoe size was 12. It does not matter, I was just surprised.
Do you still have your Yamaha? If so, how many miles on it?
Yes and almost 23k i believe
Any more updates?
Work in progress this year has been a little whacky
How does this bike compare to the raider , i own the raider?
As far as chassis and handling id say there about the same the Eluder just handles a bit better... motor is just an upgraded version of the raider so you cannot go wrong there.. the weight is higher and noticeable but not overwhelming by any means.... definitely is a worthy upgrade for the comfort and storage
If you wanted to still away your Note 8 on the tank you could actually use a surface charger I have one that's rectangular and would fit perfectly sitting behind where you placed your Note 8 Let's Play Rumor plugging it in it's actually a battery backup that's proximity charger. Just a suggestion however the Note 10 probably would not fit in that storage compartment but on the Venture there is a rear plug for charging I'm sure you could get creative and run your Port accessories to your back Apartments just fine on that bike
Thanks for the info
Can a heel adapter be added for heel toe shifting?
Yes that is something you can purchase separately through Yamaha's website it gives you a new shift pedal and then you can get the heel pedal to add onto... but you have to purchase the different forward pedal first
@@yamabeast5874 ok thanks
are we gonna get an update?
Update on what?
What size are the speakers?
Approx 5 1/4 in
I just bought an Eluder as well and I am having trouble with the Navigation. I noticed when you were going through your Nav. I saw the same thing I’m getting ( Navigation Not Ready) What is up with this? I just downloaded the new software update, and it all went successfully, but now when I want to use Navigation, I’m getting that message.. If you can help me out with this, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks for a great review.. Ed..
Ed thank you for watching and the positive review. I am currently in the process of working on that i notice the gps is working as i ride, it knows what streets im on so i think it may need reset. I plan to work on that this weekend i will message you as soon as i can figure it out. I want to get it fixed before my exhaust come monday for it.
YamaBeast 58 Yea, let me know if you can get it figured out. I can’t get my Navigation to work at all.. Like I said, I just get that message. I’m going to call the Dealer tomorrow and talk to service to see if they have any insight of the problem..
Thanks for getting back to me...
@@edmaggiacomo4810 no problem, i called my dealer and they gave me some info so i can try something before having to take it all the way to them so ill definitely get back to you by the end of tomorrow once i see what i can do
@@edmaggiacomo4810 hey boss im still currently attempting a couple things i had detached the antenna to see if that did anything and that failed... i am trying to redownload the yamaha toolbox but am running into laptop issue that i am hoping to resolve today and see if i can get something worked out ill get back to you as soon as i fix it or run into a deadened beyond my capabilities
YamaBeast 58 Thanks a lot.. Yea, I’m going to call the Yamaha support hot line tomorrow and see what they say.. I know there are other guys out there that are having the same problem.. Yamaha has really not said anything about it that I know of.. I just want get this thing working..
Again, thanks for keeping me posted...
I have been looking and I cannot find an honest comparison between this Yamaha and the new Indian Challenger.
I would find it very interesting because the Challenger and this bike are probably closest competition to each other.
Im hoping after this pandemic to be able to test ride one
The Challenger is better. The real question is, is it $10 thousand better.
Sir can u pls tell me which has the most reliable engine in long run ...is it Honda or yamaha pls reply
Yamaha has been ranked number one over all in reliability for the past few years with Honda and callus saki in a fairly close 2nd
@@yamabeast5874 but which is best in engine department Honda or yamaha
@@jj.4167 as of right now Yamaha has the best with a 11% failure rate and Honda has a 12%... so i will say Yamaha comes out on top for longest lasting engine
@@yamabeast5874 don't follow that cr report tell me with ur personal experience....
@@jj.4167 ive only owned Yamaha's. Ive been on some of the smaller Honda's so i dont know that i can speak on those overall. Ive had 3 different bikes now by Yamaha because i felt there over all performance and maintenance was the best, friends that have had Yamaha's for years with high mileage on them have had nothing but good things to say about there motors...but with any motor you get out of it what you put into it, i dont know a lot about Honda's nor do i have many friends that ride them
Your slowly talking me into giving the eluder another look
Honestly with the little things i wish they did different the almost 8k miles it has on it i dont regret it i love the bike
Hey man you live in York pa area dont you.i used to live in Columbia near mount joy
Yeah man im from the Hershey area
@@yamabeast5874 AWESOME! I live in Williamsport, PA and have a 2014 Raider!
@@JohnBrosan i miss my raider this eluder feels almost identical... williamsport is a nice from here i love riding up in northern pa
Where is the MT-10 videos!?
Never made it that far i traded it in to get the eluder
how is the sound system ?
Good for a stock system there is room for improvement but if you plan to upgrade exhaust pipes then speakers with an amp would help but i can still cruise about 75 and still hear my system over the zombie baffles
@@yamabeast5874 TY
Hey man I messaged you earlier on a different video I think about buying and bike from Florida. Anyways seller couldn't find sissy bar keys. He sent me pic of keys. Yours have 3 numbers on it also?
When you buy the sissy bar it comes with a lock and little sliders to put in the tumbler and you set it up to match the key in your fob
@@yamabeast5874 what you mean you set it up to match? I don't have the keys that originally came with sissy bar
@@jeffreys704916 is this a stock sissy bar?
@@yamabeast5874 yes it's definitely stock haha you know they don't have any aftermarket parts for this thing. And I'm upset they discontinued the heal toe shifter after I bought the heal shifter! Lol
@@jeffreys704916 ive seen some who have modified others to fit thats why i asked.... the stock one new comes with a kit for the key tumbler so it can be set to the fob key
Hi! my height is 5'6 and I'm thinking about changing my Warriors to Eluder.. do you think I can ride this bagger?😅 it's a huge bike😂
Honestly probably close to the seat height just a bit heavier but manageable im 5'8" and sit very comfortably and ive been on rides with guys a good bit shorter and they do just fine
@@yamabeast5874 oh that's nice. I'm a little scared of the weight, especially in parking. I used to ride Royal Star classic but it was 40kilograms lighter. how do you feel about this weight?😄
@Michu 93 sorry haha i had to do the conversion there since we use pounds .... youll feel the weight no doubt but it won't be so drastic that you will be fine with it in a short period of time
@@yamabeast5874 I forgot, sorry. 😄thanks for your time and answer. last question, do you recommend buying this monster?😄
@Michu 93 one thing to note is that 2018 is the only year the eluder was made... i love this bike, i have around 20k miles on it and have loved evey mile.... i do wish i went with the venture but thats just for storage space but i cant say anything negative about it... i had a raider prior to it so it just feels right at home
4 years later, do you still own it?
Yes currently over 20,000 miles on it and still running strong
Really great to hear that! I'm waiting on my starter relay to get here.@@yamabeast5874
@@yamabeast5874 That's great to hear. There's a lot to like about these bikes, they overpriced them and did a TERRIBLE job of marketing them.... JMHO. "Emotional V-Twin", sounds like something you see a doctor to have removed.
This is a nice bike but I wish they’d bring back the Stratoliner. If they put the six speed and cruse control on the Strat I’d never buy another bike.
And a bigger gas tank! I still have my Roadliner.
That bike is nice
Any heat issues while riding?
You get some good heat radiating from the motor and the left pipe if your sitting still for a little while but when moving you lose that but i havent found it to be an issue in the 2800 miles ive put on this bike
@@yamabeast5874There is also a concern that an air cooled bike can lose HP if the temps get too high. Have you witnessed that?
@@DJGENOTYPE I have not found at any point that my raider or my eluder (both having the same 1900cc sized V Twin) has or had shown any decrease in power... it may on a dyno or some other computer system but ive not been able to feel a decrease in power and ive road on some hot days... on another note i have had it shut off in traffic from warming up to much at idle and the computer is to auto shutoff to prevent damage and in that case you turn your key off then back on to reset and continue on
@@yamabeast5874I guess i'm going to pull the trigger this weekend then. Thanks for the video and your answers.
@@DJGENOTYPE let me know how you make out and what you think... i appreciate you watching
If this was liquid cooled this would be my next bike
Honestly liquid cooled is just one more thing to go wrong... after riding both there is not q big enough difference and its nice not having to worry about leaks or failures in the system
It runs MUCH cooler than my Goldwing!
Why did they drop the V4? Makes no sense to me.....they have the Vmax 17 motor, it is a perfect example of Yamaha's technical prowess. They could have had a home run.
Unsure of why they chose to other than it produces more tourqe than the old venture in a better more reliable motor with less moving parts . As an owner with over 10k miles on this motor and 6 or so thousand on the older version of this motor i.e. the raider motor i believe its probably the best motor on the market. Do i wish this eluder pushed a little more? Absolutely but this bike has done its fair share of proving that the 2 cylinder v twin is an absolute monster
@@yamabeast5874 - there is no way that a V-Twin is "better more reliable motor" than Yamaha's V4. V-twin engine characteristics suit low speed crusing, and straight line acceleration (and throttle blipping). When you are exiting a sweeper and you start accelerating you want linear power to help stand the bike up, not peak torque! The V-twin is all about the sound and the rumble, it is an inferior motorcycle motor for everything but slow speed slalom courses. I wish Yamaha would listen to thier loyal followers and not try to ripoff Harley Davidson. If we wanted an ancient technology motor with a 45lb crankshaft we would buy a Harley. Sales data shows that the Venture missed the mark, time to go back to the V4.
@@aioesj yeah idk the whole back story on why they did it but ill be honest as far as the bagger goes anything other than this motor would have not done this bike justice.... And from the recent owners group ride that I was involved with in vermont the owners of the venture had nothing but good things to say about it come from the older ones or bikes similar thats been my experience so far..... As far as power coming out of turns this bike eats up turns no problem
@@yamabeast5874 glad to hear it, enjoy the bike
5 foot 8 wearing 14s! Damn dude!
Yeah got stuck with big feet some how haha
I thought the hp was around 76
You are correct i miss spoke not sure where that came from i think i may have been thinking about my raider or had it written wrong in the board but its between 75 and 80
Imagine how good the bike would look with the 2 lower farrings removed.
Im tossed on it i feel like the design is definitely one of its own i wish airflow was better but that can be fixed with the side fairings you can add on but i hear what your saying... it would have to be something i would have to see to judge it
Cyclecruza talked about a case where debris flew into someones kneecap while riding. Thats why i an looking at this bike and roadglide which both have these lower
I just feel like a bike this size and weight with such LITTLE horsepower would be a huge issue for me. Most of my bikes have been in the 140hp range, I couldn't imagine driving a 900 pound mororcycle with 80hp? Seems like it should have at least 130hp.
Honestly the place i feel it lacks is the rev range... but it has great power.... now you can get it flashed and have that all unlocked and it pulls really well.... i ride 2 up with my fiance and luggage to do weekend rides and we total over 1000lbs plus and this bike still pulls on a bunch of harleys
I just came to say, 42 minutes….WoW!
Needed to get all the info out there
@@yamabeast5874 Thank you for all the info.
only if yamaha road star 1700 had ABS brakes the would be the last bike any would own.
hmmm now if had bit more money I would buy eluder and never look back..
I want one, but I wont buy one until I see yamaha supporting their decision to venture into the big bike business and continue production...so far it looks like they have thrown in the towel and have foregone any further production beyond 2018... Im not going to buy a bke that was only prduced for one year....not a smart choice
You could do reviews for a living. Thanks.
Thanks i appreciate and that would be an awesome job
Hey, don't you know you have to throw your hands around like a tweeker when doing a Y/T review?! It was way too easy to pay attention to what you were saying.
Crap ill have to remember that for next time haha thanks for watching
i was always loving the f6b then i saw this and was blown away from the looks then i heard its air cooled and hot and now you say its belt drive hahahahahah why would they do that? f6b here i come. I have more storage in my 2003 st1300 panniers
The heat for me is not a deal breaker and there are ways to get around it... i cant stand the bag design of the f6b with the doors flipping outward i feel top load is way better but some bikes arent for everyone... best of luck with your decision and ride safe