Remington 870 vs Mossberg 500/590
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- AMAZON Store: amzn.to/2H7Lq6Y
PATREON: / iv8888
JOIN USCCA LEGAL SELF DEFENSE NETWORK: usccapartners.c...
CHECK OUT OUR MUSIC CHANNEL: / guitarsenal
Which one is better? You decide and tell us in the comments below what YOU think...
Barry's shirt can be purchased from /
Shirts & other Apparel:
www.ballistici...
www.iraqveteran...
FACEBOOK: / iraqveteran8888
twitter @ iraqveterna8888
DISCLAIMER: Our videos are strictly for documentary, educational, and entertainment purposes only. All shooting is performed on state-approved firing ranges under the supervision of trained professionals. Imitation or the use of any acts depicted in these videos is solely AT YOUR OWN RISK. All work on firearms should be carried out by a licensed individual and all state and federal rules apply to such. We (including TH-cam) will not be held liable for any injury to yourself or damage to your firearms resulting from attempting anything shown in any of our videos. We do not endorse any specific product and this video is not an attempt to sell you a good or service. We are not a gun store and DO NOT sell or deal in firearms. Such a practice is heavily regulated and subject to applicable laws. We DO NOT sell parts, magazines, or firearms. We are not instructing our viewers on how to modify firearms, accessories or otherwise to change their basic legal function. These videos are free to watch and if anyone attempts to charge for this video notify us immediately. By viewing or flagging this video you are acknowledging the above.
Fair Use: In the rare instance we include someone else’s footage it is covered in Fair Use for Documentary and Educational purposes with the intention of driving commentary and allowing freedom of speech.
RIP Barry, coming back to watch these older vids sure tells how great you were for the community.
Trevor Smith the old guy died?
Trevor Smith How did he die? I heard he had a drinking problem or something.
StyrbjornStarke Natural causes. Let's honor his memory by not bringing up hearsay of personal demons. We all have them. Never cast aspersions on a man that can't defend himself. Let's just remember him in a positive light for his work and contribution to our community. R.I.P and God bless, Barry.
Trevor Smith wow had no freaking idea
StyrbjornStarke He did, but he had a heart attack. He was battling that drinking demon for a long time, like a lot of old timers.
It's very good both shotguns exist. They create competition and keeps both of them cheap and affordable.
+wallabing Which is why I own both.
You mean quality and affordable. Cheap and affordable sorta mean the same thing there hoss.
Kinda sad how quality has tanked with Remington in the last decade. They aren't what they used to be. Only way I'd buy Remington is if I found an older model.
Facts
You just proved the plight of capatalism lol
Missing Barry all these years later. The man, and these videos, helped me so much as I got into guns in my late 20's
My primary defensive longarm has been a Mossberg 590 Special Purpose 20" for almost 13 years.
I prefer Mossberg because of the superior ergonomics, light weight, durability, and easy ability to strip it. Plus replaceable ejectors. And especially low cost.
I found a 500 Mossberg in a shop. Military grade. 3" magnum. 12ga.
I realized that Barry is no longer with us, but it was very nice to see his memory kept alive in your videos. Loved the intel that you provided.
I'm a lefty. I like the Mossberg top tang safety.
same here. buying a bolt action is not an option
Same. I'm a lefty and I can't stand the controls on a Remington. The cross bolt safety I can live with but I hate the position of the slide release on the 870. Not sure if that has anything to do with being left handed, but on the Mossberg I can work the safety with my thumb and work the slide release with my middle finger, don't have to move my hand a bit
***** yes I have nothing against Remingtons performance just there controls
+jake gus my 870 express has failures to eject at least 1 every 1-2 boxes of ammo and I completely disagree with the recent quality control
Another lefty here. The Remington's controls are a dealbreaker for me. Ambidextrous or bust.
I miss Barry, he reminded me of my dad, may they both R.I.P
People like him use to be very common, now you're lucky to meet someone as genuine, as the real old school folks like them.
Like the part where Barry says I would just get a 590! R. I. P Barry!
What do you mean R.I.P. Barry????
Barry passed away, check irag
Iragveteran8888 channel
When I found out, I was so sad. :'(
Brandon Susich Barry died in April of a heart attack. Great guy.
The direction of the spent shell can give your position away? What about the deafening shotgun blast? Lol.
My thoughts exactly. Lol
+KStylez05 *shotgun blast* "Damnit it Carl! Where is this bastard?"
*spent shell hits the floor* "Well shit. He's behind the sofa."
+Jason Hatherlee Gotdamn loud ass plastic empty shells givin' away my position!
+Jason Hatherlee That M1 Garand empty ping
I can only pick out the general direction of a sound usually. Not the exact location.
I've voted with my wallet twice so far in my 30 years of life 1st for a Rem 870 Police Mag 12ga 20" 6 shot came with walnut got ATI M4 6 postion w/shell holder, front pistol grip, tac star side saddle shell holder, heat shield. Second time Rem 870 Tactical 12ga 18" black stock and pump, 7 shot, rail on top, ghost rings and swivel stud sling. I like the quality of the 870 and the ease of disassembly and cleaning.
Mossburg 590 20" for the 9 rd capacity.
David Wolter I got the same with flex system
870 20 in 7 round tube ... I have both the disassembly on the 870 is easier
RIP Barry you will forever be missed. I was recently deciding on either a 870 or 590... Went with the 590.
The only thing I don't understand about this is:
How is it that the side eject option on the gun can give your position away, but an enormous blast from a double 0 buck shot round at 25 yards from a twelve gauge shotgun and the sound of re racking a new shell does not? Makes little sense to me.. I see this logic for rifles at moderate ranges but a shotgun? no way jose.. You pull that trigger and the whole world knows where your at.
Maybe they mean it this way:
You're in a hidden position and the intruder is around the corner from you or in the hallway, whatever the layout of the building is, and they can't find you. You fire a shot, it's loud, bad guy is still trying to find you and you rack the weapon. Say your she'll flies out the door or past a half wall and they spot it. I don't know. I now see your point clearer after writing this but he must've had a good reason to say it haha.
+Kevin Harker as a former marine grunt. if you are using a shotgun they most likely know where you at already.
That comment made me laugh, I was thinking same thing, big boom and your cool, ejected shell, oooo there he is.
if you are inside a building with a lot of corridors and hallways, the gunshots will echo and it will be hard to distinguish exactly where it's coming from (especially with all the other gunfire). When the shell ejects you can see which way it flies from so you know which side they shooter is on. This is only applicable in the case that you are already detected, such as in a gun fight
@@danielj5650 I'll worry about this if I ever move into a huge building with lots of corridors. My house doesn't fit that description.
To each their own, you can't go wrong with either but I have used both and I lean towards the Mossberg and prefer it for several reasons.
Dual extractors for shells with the Mossberg where the Remington only has one, a solid barrel bolt lug lockup, I find the slide release more comfortable and not having to readjust the hand, the open shell feed for high-stress situations and another one that people often mistake for a defect is that the Mossberg has a bit of play in the forend which actually allows for easier cycling in any of the slightest misalignment problems with the slide arms. My friend's Remington has no play in the forend and on the outward appearance it would appear to be better built but the slightest misalignment problem with the slide rails caused a huge crack down the middle of the forend under normal cycling and he shelled out some serious money for his Remington while my Mossberg Maverick was only a couple hundred bucks. The one thing the Remington has the edge is the steel receiver but I'm not sure that it's really a deal-breaker. I actually prefer the Mossberg Maverick to the Mossberg 500 because it has the safety location on the trigger group like the Remington. I highly recommend polishing the internals of either with a felt wheel and polishing compound on a Dremel to eliminate any casting flashes to help with smoothness and reliability, remember smoothing instead of metal removal. Have fun and stay safe.
Hunter Jordan His was older the stock is still in pristine shape but the forend got a crack down the center from fatigue. Most Mossbergs have a little side to side play while the Remington is stiff. My understanding is that under any misalignment or malfunctions if it is forcibly racked that the tight tolerances place the stress on the forend. For an older shotty it's a reliable beauty with the exception of that.
It's a somewhat common problem if you do a Google search. I don't think it''s just Remingtons I'm sure but any kind of wood forend but from what I understand the tight tolerances stress it a little more. Nothing to really sweat, all that much excuse for him to get a new furniture set for it. Still cycles really well although I did notice his action release is a little more difficult to depress than that of that of the Mossberg.
Hunter Jordan In all honesty I think most modern pump shotguns are created equal in terms of reliability. Most of it just comes down to personal preference, I never understood why Remington didn't use the dual extractors. As a Mossberg fan one distinct advantage I think the Remington has is the steel receiver. One thing is for sure I trust a pump shotgun in a home defense situation more than a semi-auto just because they'll feed just about anything where some of the semi-autos seems a little more picky.
The part I was referring to is the shell extractors that grab the shell out of the chamber not the elevator. The Remingtons only have one and the Mossberg has two.
I'm not so sold on steel dude. Let's see what's made of aluminum today
Engine blocks
Landing gear
Etc.
Steel's good for two things, marketing and bluing.
I miss Barry so glad we have him to look up on youtube. Thanks for all you do for us Eric.
8 year old content still solid and super applicable!
The capacity is impressive but I like the Mossberg's simple design and vast selection of parts and accessories. With the 500 and 870 being so popular there's a build for anyone's tastes.
I love Barry and I really miss him I only found this channel 3 years ago but I did go back and watch a lot of the older videos
I had both the Remington 870 (Woodmaster) and the Mossberg 500. I loved the 870 more than I did the 500. I won a Benelli Nova in a raffle at a fundraiser for a brother of some family friends. I absolutely love the Nova. But do miss the 870.
I remember when this video came out miss Barry r.i.p been watching this channel since 2012 great times.
Mossberg 500/590s are easier to use if you are left handed, just a little fact.
I disagree. I find the 870 to be just as easy. The safety is fine for a lefty. Just use your middle finger.
having owned both and being left handed, i gotta say, the 870 takes the cake.
i put my index finger on the lever and pull the trigger with my middle finger, no one shoots faster than me.
Well the fore grip release is only a consideration for first round, once it's been fired they release automatically. That being said I never have to change my natural hand position thus I have several accurate shots in a short amount of time. Speed does not win in life or death situations, the accurate shot wins. Not to mention you need to be deadly accurate with a shotgun in a home defense situation as the buckshot hasn't expanded more than a few inches.
You can put a reverse safety in a right-hand-ejecting 870, or you can just use the standard safety left-handed, it's not hard with practice. There are also fully-reversed left-handed 870 models.
***** All of witch is very, very true. The reasons I bring it up is left hand guns tend to cost more and why learn to practice something extra when you can avoid it all together. These two shotguns are so close in every category that it's going to be the little things that make a difference.
I must admit, I find it interesting that the first two things he mentioned for ergonomics on the 870 are the two things I hate most about it. I can neither rack the first shell nor turn on the safety without moving my shooting hand. That's always seemed dumb to me. I thought that Mossberg just had a patent on the behind-the-guard action release until I learned that the 870 came before the 500. Besides those two things and the lift gate, I'd take either gun.
People sometimes release the pump on a Mossberg due to it being behind the trigger guard.
I agree with the 870 being a good beater shotgun. I have the marine magnum and toss it around a lot. Hunting trip buddy twisted his foot and i had to carry him across a wide creek so he didnt slip an make it worse. We held his rifle while i simply threw my 870 to the other side of the creek (was unloaded at that time). Held up just fine. But both great shotguns though
This is like Chevy vs Ford...
and glock vs 1911
i would pick 1911,Mossberg,and Chevy
+Antonio Brito more like glock vs m&p or glock vs xd. technically the 1911 is nothing even close to a glock. not to be that guy
+Antonio Brito more like glock vs m&p or glock vs xd. technically the 1911 is nothing even close to a glock. not to be that guy
+parker simpson no,glock aren't close to 1911.its true glocks are reliable but 1911's are quality.
Once the pandemic happened, I went to my local Ffl dealer and asked what the best shotgun he had that was for home defense. He came out with mossberg 590. I grabbed it.
Better late then never
@@blakedavis2447 gunbroker's shotty prices are insane right now
You mean PLANdemic
I'd choose the Mossberg over the Remington.
I'm a Winchester guy myself. Nothing like an 1897 or model 12
+gomer 1993 the military seems to think it's just fine.
Don't forget the 1200 and 1300 defenders
is that the terminator shotgun?
Too expensive
loved the old mans closing words, this is my first time tuning into you guys, Will not be the last, good work fellows
"It's in a much more convenient place.... You do have to move your shooting hand." Then it's not convenient!
The material of the receiver makes no difference. The lockup is in the barrel.
Stop it with your facts. People want to be told feelings.
@@elche1976 love your honest commentary. Could you kindly advise a 1st time shotgun buyer what to buy? I'm looking to practice and become a good shot and take my skills towards hunting. Which pump and would it be better to get an over/under 1st instead? TY!
The ultimate bottom eject shotgun, the Ithaca 37. Find an older Deerslayer 12 gauge or a Ithaca 37 DS police version with the longer magazine tube. I have had Ithaca's for years and they are tough as nails. I do have a Remington 870 for defense use these days and it will do everything the Mossberg wishes it could do, especially since mine is 30 plus years old and is steel. Of course I could have gotten a Mossberg 590 but I couldn't afford it so I snagged the 870, I got it used for what I would have paid for a Maverick 88.
Always loved these well-done comparisons.
It's really difficult for an established authority on firearms to give a completely unbiased comparison with honest opinions on two rival products without skirting around the issues equivocally for fear of stepping on any toes of fans or companies.
At 7:00 when he said the side shell ejection would give your position away...and he prefers bottom ejection....ummmm I think the sound of the shotgun will give your position away, lol
I was thinking the same damn thing,unless hes using a sniper shotgun.!!!
Well, my understanding is that it is hard to tell where a big blast came from indoors and in urban areas (places you would generally be using a shotgun) because of the way the sound bounces off of hard objects. A shell dropping does not have the same awesome concussion and its sound would be limited to a specific area. Now, that being said, I do agree we are splitting some hairs here.
Pretty sure he means by popping up above your cover exposing your position.
I think i understand his point with ejection. If the shell lands at your feet, it could land on your shoes or lightly on the carpet or whatever floor is below you. With the side eject, you launch the shell out of your way, possibly going around a corner or hitting the wall with the force of the ejector. The enemy also might see the shell fly
If I had a bottom eject shotgun I would give it away. The 870 is a beast; like that camo! 500 is just what I'd rather have at the field.
Yet another outstanding gun review/comparison (it's become part of my standard YT viewing). I too (like many) have both models and I also lean toward the 870 for the more durable feel. However, if I had the Moss 590 A1 I am sure I would prefer it to all others (pumps to be specific). I have also become more and more fond of the tactical semis but that another story for another day...Keep up the OUTSTANDING work as this is quickly becoming my favorite YT "Gun" channel!
I own a 870, wonderful shotgun! I love the weight and the finish to it! But, I have to add, not to be a smarty or anything but; Bottom or Side eject really doesn't matter to me. If you're in combat, neither matters, because you're going to be making a load of racket and I doubt a shell flying out the side will give away your position while using a short barreled shotgun, LOL. Great video guys, really enjoyed it!
I had a 1970s 870 Wingmaster with 28 inch non vent rib smooth-bore barrel and combat ringed fore-end. Threw a mag extension on it so it held 7+1 and I kept the barrel 28 inches. It was a big boy, very light recoil, and it was my go-to shotgun. Paid $100 bucks the day after I graduated High School, and I sold it last year to buy a pistol. It was the smoothest shotgun I've ever had/fired. That's out of Mossbergs, A Winchester 97, Stevens, and some lower end 12 gauges. Man I need to get another 1.
The ultimate 870 v. 590A1 video: Why not both?
+veggie530 because is hard to to carry and to shoot both at the same time i guess
Budget.
Hey Guys, Your not getting bigger because of us, your getting bigger because you guys are awesome and put out excellent vids. If you sucked I wouldn't watch, instead of watching everything and wanting more. Keep up the great work, and thanks for all the time you guys take to make all these vids.
I love my 870... I love remington period. My remington 700 bdl is my favorite gun ever 30.06... Great video guys!!
Damn. Randomly coming up on an old video with Barry. RIP Barry. You're missed.
I have the 500 Mossberg it's a slug gun. has a rifled barrel 18.5 inches have fixed power scope with cross hair in a diamond shaped square. I bought the scope because I liked the reticle and it didn't cost that much.big plus.and the switch barrel for Turkey hunting get the neck in the square and pull the trigger.
I worked for Military Sealift Command as a 3rd and 2nd mate and the navy issued our ships the mossberg 500, i loved shooting those things.
Have you heard anything about the freedom group producing crappy 870's now. There are tons of videos on here with failure to extract. I wish it werent true but there are lots of forums online discussing the QC of Remington now. Too bad
Problems simply corrected though. Replace the mim extractor with the big steel one and polish the chamber. Worked great for my 870.
@@smittysmith6173 ... yup there still having this problem with the 870s.
No...its not always so easy to fix smith..
I have to say the tang safety for me is much better than a cross bolt one. And a bottom ejecting/loading shotgun would be much slower to feed and run and gun with compared to a side loader. You can't chuck a shell in and feed as you go or throw a different type of shell in ie: a slug. Hence why they aren't as common.
I love the 500 and I love the 870, I'd love to make a hybrid of the mossbergs safety and and action release on an 870 receiver.
I looked at an 870 beside a mossberg today and I found the 870 had a lot of slop in it compared to the Mossberg.
Strange, I heard more people say the opposite!
Minute 10:20 is the best sound I've ever heard!
Do Remington 870 meltdown
Better have plenty of spare shoulders.
Just picked up a Mossberg 590 9-rd with ghost ring sights last week. Absolutely LOVE the gun.
I have real world experience with both guns and data on both going back 2 decades. I owned an 870 and sold it to by a 590a1. The 590a1 and only that model is more durable than the 870 and the reason why I switched. The 870 will absolutely break before the 590a1.
Barry called that shotgun a good "home blaster". Love that guy!
Visiting Barry in 2018. This guy is missed. I miss the channel being like this.
May Barry rest in peace, but the 870 wasn't even entered in 3443. Remington already knew they wouldn't get the contract due to cost per unit!
***** It's not simply about what's cheapest. It's about economical AND durable. Mossbergs are like the AKs of the shotgun world. They have higher tolerance, less precision, which is exactly what makes them so popular for so many different organization.
I wrote to Brandy "Mrs. IV888" about ideas for future "Vs." videos. A 870 vs 500/590 video to be exact on 11/20/2013. She kindly replied with a "It's on the list" of ideas and sure enough it was already done 1.5 months prior. Big Ups to Eric & Barry. I am an 870 owner and love it, but wanted ti know what Eric & Barry thought of it. Now I know. Thanks Guys!
Thanks for the feedback. Seems my husband had one in mind all this time, but felt my getting involved in the process all this time is what he wanted me to do. I have had plenty of good helpful advice from the youtube community, I thank you all for that.
I think that we are going with the mossberg for several reasons, mostly its ability to perform under less than ideal conditions and its pricing is side by side with the remington. The deal breaker is its good performance. Thanks, ER
R.I.P Berry.
Berry was the best! I Miss him! Appreciate that you guys continue to run the channel in a way he would be proud of!
I feel like 70 percent of the people on this video have never hunted ducks and needed a reliable shotgun aka the 870
Ikr i would trust remington 11/10 times!
Ya man all the way
My dad banned mossberg guns from our house
not every gun owner hunts. but i do hunt dove never ducks but my mav 88 has never failed me for dove hunting or anything else
I said never duck hunted not all gun owners hunt what's your argument
The Mav 88 really impressed me for the price and I almost thought it wasn't real because it's so light until it fired very satisfactory!
Albiet the remmy seems like something to camp out in hell with, but empty it weighs more than the fully loaded mav with 3 extra capacity in the mag
I held airguns that felt heavier than that mav and it's a non corrosive material product.
I appreciate you reminding me why I have the remmy
🇺🇸 ✝️
I’ve tried them both, my bets go on the mossberg 100%
There’s also a little plastic bit that you can put in the back of the mossberg receiver to shorten it so the mini shells can feed correctly, just slide it in, made possible by the style of the loading arm
I love the thumb safety on the Mossberg. Of course my first gun was a Mossberg 500 so I'm very used to it.
For me...the apples to apples comparison is the 590 vs 870. They're about the same price.
Watching this in 2021. Those ammo shelves are making me cry .... Need a time machine.
I have the chance to trade my Mossy 500 for a Remington 870 Tactical model.
Should I do it?
I don't really like the 870 having 1 extractor and I'm not a fan of the door on the 870. Other than that I like the 870.
I would do it, I love my 870
I would not do it, 2 extractors & open loading (no door) of the mag tube is too big of an advantage for a home defense shotgun to give up.
I'm a lefty, and I have a Mossberg 590M full-size 12ga., and I also have a Mossberg 590M Shockwave 12ga., (the "M" stands for "Magazine" fed). I replaced the plastic safety buttons with metal one's from Brownells, and I've not had a problem with either of them (not that I'd ever had a problem before, but ... better safe than sorry). I have the original 10 round magazines that came with both, AND, I also have a 20 round magazine for both ... the 20 round magazines are just INSANE, lol.
I also installed a "LS-250G Crimson Trace Shotgun Lasersaddle with Ambidextrous Control", on both 590M's. It brought my accuracy with the Shockwave up 100% since I fire the Shockwave from the hip as it has no stock, so shoulder firing is NOT an option. I use the Shockwave as my home-defense shotgun, loaded up with 2 3/4' 00 Buck, 8 shot. (The magazines are chambered for 2 3/4' ONLY)
They are both great weapons end of story.
love my 870 and my 500 but my favorite shotgun is my ithaca model 37 with walnut stock set holds 7+1 and its a bottom eject its a great shotgun
I really like your channel. I watched many other gun themed channels, but yours is the best. Why? You really give objective review. No all is super blaber just to sell a gun. You point out good and bad of specific model. You also educate some of us not that familiar with all the specifics and acronyms used. So keep up the good work and looking forward to the new material from you guys. Br
I used the Mossberg in Iraq when we had to switch from rolling our tanks to rolling around in humvees. Anytime I had to fire warning shots, I used the shotty lol it was just funner than using the M9 or M16 (or M4. When I enlisted we still used the "musket" and we got the M4 eventually). The ones we had had pistol grips and the regular stock; just depends on what cree got issued what, and luckily I got one with a pistol grip. They're just cooler and funner to use.
I'm wondering how many people are watching this to see which they should buy for combat and room clearing, I'm here for shooting ducks
I'm here for home defense
I prefer a choked Mossberg with a full length barrel. A friend has an 870 and it gets heavy after awhile carrying it around. Don't get a 590 for hunting, they're awesome guns but I don't think they make a long barrel/ choked barrel for them.
Mossberg sells separate barrels for the 500/590 up to 28". But it'll cost about 200$
I'm here for a shotgun for all around use
I'm zeroing in on the Mossberg 500 Grand Slam Turkey. It's the best all-around shotgun I've seen. It has a 20" ribbed and threaded barrel, so you can hunt _anything_ with it and still have a short enough length for walking hallways, to defend your home.
nice vid. one thing overlooked is the Mossberg is much more left handed friendly than the Remington. the safety and the slide release are very accessible w/ the left hand. designers don't realise how many sales they lose by being righty centric. not just w/ firearms.
Barry! Barry! Barry! Man I loved you. I never met you but I loved you like a brother man! RIP....
Nice to see Barry again.
I've got a Mossberg 535 that I bought at Walmart for like $300. I love it. Can't beat the accessories. I think I have like $400 in a slug set up I can hold 2" group with.
I own an 870 and I love it.
You guys should have mentioned the NEC/pardner pump/knockoff 870. It even takes all the 870 parts, neat history on it too. i love my 870 knockoff. I also love you show, thanks for the fan appreciation I'm glad you guys are growing.
Aww come on, we all have a 500 on our night stands.
I have a model 37 Ithica and it is quite a sturdy gun and it ejects spent shells through the bottom its one of my favorite shot guns
Don't forget about Ithica Shotguns, these shotguns are also both bottom feed and bottom eject as well as being a pump shotgun.
I'm catching up on y'all vids I've missed joining here in 2019. Past or present these vids are great. Sad I Miss you Barry. You are legendary and Erik and Chad are doing a great job. P.s. I owned a 870 Express magnum that shot 3-1/2" I loved it
I also dig the 590. That Benelli looks like an interesting piece though
Miss Ol'Barry! Damn it man!
rip barry!
Eric, I heard you say that you like the position of what you call the "operating bar stop" better on the Remington over the Mossberg. Maybe you've figured this out by now since this video is 7 years old, but if not, try this - while holding the Mossberg in the firing position, rotate your firing hand very slightly to the right and reach under the grip with your right middle finger. It's very easy to release the action with a very small motion of your hand and you don't have to completely release your grip - just a small rotation will do. After many, many years of owning and shooting Mossbergs I only recently learned this trick.
please do a video showing the different types and effects of various shotgun chokes with representations. And also use different types of rounds with each choke to show what would happen. Ex: 00 buck with a full choke vs. improved choke. But then use slugs and birdshot as well. And Thank you for all your informative videos.
Thumbs up so they can see!
Great video! Erik, you and Barry, sure worked well together! You Guys were a great team.
Shot for my first time ever last sunday and i can say that it was a great experience! The remington was fun to shoot and it kicks!
I've got an old Mossberg 500, I've had it since about 1970, alloy trigger guard but a single action bar, but I've never had any kind of problem. I've also got an 870 that's a couple of years old with the black plastic stock, that's the hardest kicking gun I've ever shot, I've ordered a Magpul stock and forend for it, hoping that will make it handle better.
Miss you, Barry. Good to see you.
The 870 is more ergonomical than the 500!? Hahahahaha, cool story bro.
Yeah, that seemed a bit silly to me too...
Ergonomics are a very subjective. For me personally, the 870 is a lot more comfortable and natural to operate.
I'm going to have to disagree with you about ergo's being subjective. No 870 can be put on fire, action released to load a round, and be fired with one hand.
Now with that being said, I'd never turn away from owning an 870, it would be good to have as a reference gun only. As a back up to my AR15's? Hell no, I can get my 590 in action much faster than I could with an 870.
Adam Gold I can absolutely do all of those things with one hand, very easily too.
Not me, I find the 870 as slow and painful. But if the 870 works for you, rock on then.
those guys are terrific especially Barry he was the original real deal he could sell anything
I came in last week for the first time as I was in town so cool to meet and great you guys really love your work
Yea shooting a shotgun won't give your position away but ejecting the shell out the side will. Lmao what kinda shit is that!
My Uncle just got that Benelli new for 450. It's amazing, not a bad recoil, I love it. Great Buy I recommend it, good for Trap, Home defense, ETC.
Now I'm leaning again towards the Remington. ...crap. xD
Goodluck with that lol
Eric, you can MOST definitely purchase a 3.5 inch chambered 12 ga BPS. Great info on those awesome shotgun models. We use every one of those models in the blind to great success - stuffed with mud, grass, and rusted to hell.
I'm partial to the 870 myself but the 500 with the side winder venom kit is sick.
Remington 870
Wrooooonnngggg