Hey guys! Today we are comparing 3 of the most popular shotguns on the market! The Mossberg 500, The Benelli Nova, and the Remington 870. These are all great guns and pack a punch! Can you guess you wins??
Benelli Nova wins out. I've owned all three listed in the video. The nova has a smoother action, better ergonomics, and if you install the mercury recoil buffer, it handles stout rounds fairly well. Also the ability to use 3.5" rounds is a nice plus. The magazine disconnect option is nice. You can practice firing and loading a round manually and still have a reserve for rapid fire. The other two don't have that option.
Jesus. 14? I would only have a max of 5 in my collection. My grandfather's Nova and 870 Marine Magnum for starters. A single shot Pardner for a fun gun, a semi auto shotgun and then a SPAS-12 because its awesome.
If you want to make some profit, now is the time. Head on over to your favorite auction cite. I just saw a Rem 870 go for 1,000. A base model Remington, not even a Wingmaster.
Versatility is why you own a shotgun. Home defense, plinking, hunting. The more types of shells you can shoot is the better. The fact that the Benelli can reliably and accurately fire any 12 gauge shell on the market and is impervious to weather and regular use makes it the clear winner. And do your homework. I bought mine this year for under $400. The value is there.
I bought a Nova. It was the exact same price as the 870 and the 500 at the gun store I was at ($400). I also have a Mossberg Maverick 88. It is exactly the same as the 500 except for the trigger group and it is considerably lower in price. I also have my son's 870 Express in my gun safe. The Mossberg and the Remington are both more of a hunting configuration while the Benelli has the shorter barrel. All 3 work flawlessly. I like the mag bypass on the Benelli and it's ability to take the larger shells. I like the control configuration on the Mossberg the best. I also love my son's 870 Express. I would have a hard time picking a favorite. There are more options to change the Remington and Mossberg configurations but the Benelli does have a larger mag tube available and it does have the recoil reducer as an option as well. I haven't purchased those yet but they are on my list. That might swing the Benelli into first place if the recoil reducer works as advertised. Just buy them all and figure it out for yourself. I suspect you will keep all 3.
I have a supernova, its true what you say about the action getting smoother. But I've had issues with the gun trying to load two shells with 2 3/4 inch shells. I've come to the conclusion it's because you can work the pump back far enough to load a 3.5 inch shell, so I'm curious are you using 3 inch shell? Or do you think it's actually a manufacturing defect?
DeathTDOW ive used 3” and also 3 1/2” never a problem. I haven’t messed around with a supernova so it’s hard to say. I’ve been wanting to try one. Call Benelli, they have knowledgeable customer service, maybe they can figure something out for ya. Good luck!
@@kyles280 I only asked as the problems only seem to be with 2 3/4 inch shells. Moreover, it's not unique to the Benelli, my bro's Mossberg 335 Ulti-mag has the same feeding issues with 2 3/4 inch shells.
anton1949 My thoughts exactly. I have 9 12ga shotguns, 4 of them can shoot 3” shells and I never do. I carry a 1959 & 1980 Wingmaster. A 1967 Remington Model 1100. A Winchester model 1897 and a model 12. None of which have a even a 3” chamber. My two 14” 590a1 SBS’s and 14” Shockwave have 3” chambers but I never shoot 3” shells. Same with my Winchester Defender (1300). I like the option, but never use it. I’ve never shot a 2 3/4” slug, 00 buck, 1 buck or 4 buck at something and thought to my self “If I only I had a little more power...”. If I was a Turkey/water fowl/ goose hunter I might feel different. 2 3/4” shells had been getting it done for many many many decades.
The nova is by far superior! Best pump action shotgun on the market! Ran thousands of rounds through mine and it’s never failed. Italians rlly know how to make a shotgun!
Mine 870 was handed down from my dad and has over 15000 rounds through it at least amd has never had a part replaced, the only reason its ever malfunctioned is because we didnt pump the handguard back far enough or the ammo was faulty
Savage make the best shotguns ever made. I bought my Savage Stevens yesterday and had 300000 4” shells through it and it runs better than any shotgun ever made! Floridians really know how to make a shotgun!
Everyone here is a round counting FOOL... because MOST gun owners don't put 5,000/10,000/30,000 rounds through their guns... most sight them in or pattern them for hunting and they sit in the closet, except maybe for a bit of plinking, hunting, or self defense... you may be talking 50-100 rounds a year, or less... what's important is design, where is the safety and slide release? How easy is it to load in low light or even in the dark? and what type and length of barrel(s) do you need for what you're using it for? What sizes of shells will they shoot? Mossberg (with an adapter) will shoot shorts, which YES are just as deadly in a home defense scenario.
For what it is worth, I've been having a Mossberg 500 for about 20 years. Never jammed or failed me. I duck hunt mostly and a number of other things sprinkled in there. Again, it has NEVER failed me in any way. I'm pretty rough on it at times, too.
My Moss'y has ammo issues. It doesn't like Rem. low brass shot shells. I've gotten smokestack jams with field loads; high brass, never an issue. Once, only once, I had a smokestack jam with its favorite slug round. I may have short-cycled the action, but I'm not sure because I jumped up a buck at close quarters and scared the H*ll out of both of us...
@@that-soul-reaper-4u24 There's a video on youtube by a guy named mitchhunts, or something like that, I'm sure he would disagree with you. The Nova is a low end Benelli for a reason, it's not a $2,000 shotgun. Kind of sounds like it's a bit shit to be honest. Even in this video they admitted to hearing of feeding issues. Built better for duck hunting huh? Lmao! *Edit* The video posted by Dillon Brown, made superior...yeah, it looks like it.
The Nova is a 3.5 inch shell shotgun, while the other two are 3 inch shell shotguns. The feeding issues come with the 3.5 territory. It happens because you can work the action back far enough to load a 3.5 inch shell, which means with 2 3/4 inch shells you can have issues with the gun trying to load two shells.
The feeding issues with the Benelli are probably from short-stroking the pump. Because it can chamber 3.5-inch shells, the Nova has a longer pump stroke than the Mossberg or Remington. That's been my experience. Obviously YMMV
I just got the Mossberg 500 with the pistol grip recently and it was close to $550. Really good and reliable gun great for home defense and just going to the shooting range. I probably will be getting a Remington next. Thanks for your video.
I have owned dozens of tactical 12 gauge pump shotguns since the 80s. Back then they were called "riot guns" Here is my opinion with 30+ years experience: BENELLI Nova and Supernovas are superior and by a wide margin. Mossbergs have dreadful quality control issues and design flaws. Both Mossberg 590s I owned would engage the top mounted safety when firing magnum slugs and buckshot. This is basically a failure to fire malfunction when every single time you fire a shot you have to disengage the safety switch to fire again. Remington 870s are a vast improvement over Mossberg but Remington's reputation is in question as their quality has been steadily declining since about 2007-8 or so. Older 870s are superior but some will only fire 2 3/4" shells. NOVA and SUPERNOVA are by far my favorite 12 gauge pumps ever. The push button magazine stop alone makes their design more desirable to me. Ability to accept 2 3/4, 3 and 3 1/2" is a huge plus. They are Italian, look cool and affordable.
craigdamage agree i had a remington 870 had lot of problems. stuck spent shells and stove pipes. i have benelli nova now. that thing is flawless. no rust and eats everything. and spits shells with authority.
I turned 18 recently and the first gun i bought was a Benelli Nova, My dad owns a Mossberg 500 and a Remington 1187. I went to my gun shop (Mich-i-gun) and they all recommended the Benelli just like my dad. Greatest pump action shotgun i could ever ask for.
craigdamage Nice point you have made, but I would like to point put I do have a older 870, (bought it back in 1997) and it fires both 2 3/4 and 3 inch loads.
Everyone and their brother recommended the 870 to me bragging about reliability. Picked one up and found it to be an absolute nightmare. Constant stuck shells after firing, would not eject. Was told to polish the chamber, did that, no effect, even did a barrel swap from Carlson's, still a problem. Got rid of that piece of garbage and bought a BPS, zero issues, worked flawlessly. Funny thing is though I have two other friends with 870's, zero problems. Also know others who own the 500 and the Nova, both fantastic. Probably just a fluke thing with the 870 I owned, but regardless I thought I'd share my experience.
Mossberg, and certainly Remington, are not the companies they once were. These days it’s all about cranking out volume…I’m sure Benelli and Browning also care about volume, but they definitely don’t seem to have the same QC issues. I had a BPS Field 12ga for a while…it was very reliable and I liked the bottom ejection, but the Nova just seems more well made. I shoot XBolt rifles so it’s not that I dislike Browning or anything…just hard to beat the Nova.
I've also always favored the Mossberg 500 series myself, I like how the elevator is not in the way when you load shells and I also like the ambidextrous safety and the position of the slide release, I am also from Connecticut where they are made so I have always been biased
The "slide release" of the benelli is perfectly placed to operate with the trigger finger. Having it on the other side like on the 870 is much less ergonomic.
I own all 3 of these and I somewhat agree with your assessment. Each shotgun has its own niche. For a tactical shotgun then hands down 870 or Mossberg maverick 88 with the extended magazine tube. Slight edge to the 870 for customization in mag extensions etc. For high volume clay target shooting then hands down the Benelli Nova.
I’m in the market for a new shot gun. I looked at a Benellinova yesterday and I liked it. I also like the mossberg 500. I will probably go with the nova
I own all 3. Mossberg and Remington in 18.5 inch tactical version, Benelli 28 inch for hunting. I still prefer my Benelli for self defence and hunting. Self rotating bolt assist gives you clear pump for following shots.
Had a bunch of old 2 3/4 reloads we were shooting clays with not long ago, couldn’t get them to load and eject reliably in three different 870’s we had (all different eras and express/wingmaster) and they worked 80%+ in our supernova compared to 0% in the 870’s and an A5. Other than that I’ve never had either nova or 870 jam/lock up ever after years of clays and bird hunting. Being polymer coated also means I would much rather expose the benelli to the elements instead of constantly fighting rust on my old blued receiver even though I love the way they look but I also love camo on the nova. The supernova has an oversized trigger guard for gloves and in my opinion the pump is way more ergonomic as well as having a shimmed stock with much more adjustability and recoil technology. I’m left handed and I could care less about the differences between safety ergonomics on these three, just train and you won’t even notice plus I think the nova might be reversible idk. Trust me I love classic American guns more than anything but for hard use I’ve gotta say the benelli is the better tool. Probably due to being a much newer design honestly
Mossberg fan boy here. I really love mossberg's guns. I also want to be a benelli fanboy, but I haven't had the money. My dream semi auto shotgun is a benelli m4 with the adjustable stock.
The feeding issues of the nova are short stroke related, i've short stroked mine a lot after using my mosberg 500 it feels like the pump is a little longer of a stroke.
I have the supernova it is pretty darn amazing for a pump. Only issues I have is my hands are smaller and I have issues with the slide grip being a bit too fat and a little uncomfortable. I have learned to shoot differently to make it comfortable. Then I have heard to change out the but pad to the better gel shaped benelli but pad and it makes it better
I had three shotguns in tactical style. Mossberg 590, Mossberg 500 and the Benelli Nova Tactical. I still have the Benelli Nova. I personally think it is the smoothest functioning shotgun in the tactical format I have ever owned. I love Mossberg and the Remington rocks too. All I am saying is the Nova edged them all out for me. It's a very subjective choice. Nice video and I think you have sound logic. Thanks for the test and evaluation.
I've owned many high-end shotties. My mossberg maverick 88 is the only one thay ever stuck around. Feels perfect, shoots perfect, and has zero problems. It's just a really good balance, and I can justify the price. Years of fun.
I have a 500 and an 870. I actually like the controls of the 870, and find them more intuitive (even as a lefty shooting right handed weapons) field strip is simpler as well
The benelli slide release could be a problem for some people but i have big hands so i don’t have to move my grip or let go i can hit it with my pointer
I won't comment on the 870 as I don't own one and don't remember ever shooting one. I have a 500 and love it. I'm sold on the open elevator design and the elevator stays tight against the bolt when the action is closed. As said in the video - easy to load because there's nothing in the way. I would think the open elevator would also be beneficial for clearing malfunctions should you ever have one - I have not. I have the long mag tube on mine and a 20" barrel. This is my home defense rig. I also own a Nova. It shoots as good as it looks. I've used mine for hunting and it's made many trips to the trap and skeet range. Very smooth and balanced. I installed the mercury recoil reducer to help with recoil because it gets a lot of rounds through it in each sporting clays session and the reducer helps quite a bit. It's seen a lot of rounds and I've never had a malfunction from it, either. It's stated in the video that a few people complained about malfunctions specifically with the Nova. Look at videos on TH-cam for all three of these shotguns (and any others) and you will find people complaining about issues with all of them. Some issues may be an individual gun, some may be the shooter. I can vouch for mine, though. They're both great.
I've always liked the safety position of the Remingtons instead of the others. You have to come out of the trigger guard to disengage on them. You can go into the trigger to shoot and squeeze (if your hand is adult size) to fire. Or, it's on the way to the trigger if you're carrying the gun by the grip. To engage, you come out of the trigger guard and pull with your index or middle finger to engage (assuming right-handed). The slide release being forward is the price you pay. However, 99% of the time, you don't want to be engaging the trigger when you're racking the gun; so, it's a small price to functionality.
i'll keep my mossberg500 12g, haven't had a issue with it yet, for the past 12yrs never had a flaw once with it yet cause I unlike others take care of my guns.
I have a 20 gauge 870 and love it I have handled both the mossberg from my dad and the nova from my uncle in 12 gauge all three are great though when I buy another shotgun I’m leaning towards the nova since it can shoot 2.75 -3.5 inch shell but all 3 are great all personal preference
I just bought a Mossberg Maverick 88 a cheaper version of the 500 over a month ago. Never had any issues i'll take it any day of the week. Mossberg guy for life.
This video was done very professionally! ABSOLUTELY GREAT CAMERA WORK and your production quality really deserves many more subscribers! Personally, I own a Remington 870, but I'm considering to get a Benelli Nova just for kicks. How many 2-3/4 in shells can the Nova hold in the magazine tube?
I frequently see great emphasis being placed on the location of a combat shotgun's safety and slide release. Many consider the Mossberg's ergonomics superior. I'm going to tell you a universal truth... With combat shotguns In combat, these things are utterly unimportant. Here's an example. You are part of a team assigned to clear a building. Let's move beyond breaching the building and get to entering. You will have a round in the chamber and the safety off. From here on, your trigger finger is your primary safety until the building is clear and secure. Trigger and muzzle discipline herein rules the roost. Slide release... You have no need to unlock or open the action unless you suffer a serious feed malfunction, whereupon you will fall back to the tail of the team to clear the jam or simply discard the shotgun and go with your secondary weapon. You can recover it later. Other than a malfunction, there will be no reason to open the action. Misfire? Cycle the action. Reload on the fly as needed. Again, trigger and muzzle discipline are your safeties. House cleared and secured... Now you can set the safety to on and unload the chamber. There will not be a reason to do either while working the house. Thus, the ergonomics of the shotgun are unimportant, because you should not be using either while engaged in clearing or a fight. They may seem important playing around on the range, but you will not be fighting on the target range. You may be fighting from your bedroom door, in the dark, in your skivvies. Train the way you will most likely fight and you'll fight the way you trained. Understand what concealment and cover are, and how they differ... Trigger and muzzle discipline... Much to know and practice to be truly proficient. Safety and slide release location are absolutely at the bottom of the list. Think about it. You have bad guys close by. Why the hell would you want to unlock and open the action of your shotgun? Likewise, why would you set the safety? You won't do either (unless you have the common sense of frozen clam). Later, you can do both at your leisure, when the threat is, without doubt, gone. Also, I prefer a crossbolt safety to the tang safety for several reasons. I'm right-handed and the ambidextrous safety doesn't matter. Recoil can be an issue with the Mossberg tang safety. Moreover, I can feel if the crossbolt is on fire. With the 870, it partially obstructs access to the trigger when on safe. Especially if you install an oversized safety button. With the Mossberg, you'd better look at it. I'll take tactile over just ambidextrous every time. Another Mossberg issue... If you drop it on its side hard enough, a shell lifter pivot lug can pop out of its hole in the receiver. You're out of the fight until you get the lug back into its hole. Not easy to do in the dark in a combat situation. Granted, you have to drop it just right, but I have seen it happen. Not a great design feature. To reiterate, for a combat shotgun, used in actual combat, the ergonomics of the safety and slide release are completely unimportant. You should never use either with a threat in close proximity. You should not be concerned about moving your hand from a shooting position, because you will not have to. Learn to reload with your weak hand. reload the chamber first. I happen to own an 870 Express Tactical and a Mossberg 500 Tactical, among several other tactical shotguns. All of them will do the job...
No offense, but I would like to know what qualifies you to speak on this. A lot of assumptions are made here. One is that you will never run out of ammo while clearing. Shit happens, what if you get through with one room and immediately 2 people run in shooting? You gonna tell them to wait till you have enough shells loaded? Of course not, you shoot back. Second assumption is that keeping a weapon on safe is not standard procedure by anyone in a combat arms profession. That is false. It is common knowledge that sometimes, shit happens. You trip and fall because theres a metal wire in the doorway, fall and nail your buddy in the hip with buckshot. All because you were too "smart" for the safety.
If you don't clear buildings, and your not in combat all that stupid shit don't mean nothing, why don't you run it over with your pickup truck, just to make sure.
@@zer0768 that might be true but in either scenario, safety off from the start or safety on until ready for action, I don’t think the design matters. The tang safety is easier to operate, but also easier to potentially snag as it is on the top of the receiver…it’s not shielded by the scope/bolt like on a rifle. In reality you’re probably on switching the safety off, not back on until the job is done. I think the bigger consideration here is, what did you grow up with or have more time using? If you grew up with an 870 that and the Nova will feel right…grew up with a 500, it’ll feel right. Personally I’ve owned the 500 and the 870, amongst other makes/models of shotguns…just picked up two Novas, a 12ga and 20ga…20ga for my wife (compact stock). We mostly shoot clays with them together and maybe I’m just doing something right with my 12ga but I haven’t had any feeding issues. I’ll also be using my 12ga for pheasants and probably turkeys…I really like the polymer stock/receiver…seems very weather resistant.
I own all three and I agree...you really have to nit pick them. I have large hands and the Benelli feels better than the other two and I like the chamber clearing button feature. Honestly if I'm going hunting...I'm grabbing the Benelli.
Just came to say that I bought my 870 express brand new and it is a total piece of trash. Broken firing pin, mag follower jams, and now my ejector is broken and it is difficult to repair but I cant even fix it because Remington went out of business and I cant find the part. 10/10 would not recommend.
I found the Mossberg´s controls more ergonomic, the safety and slide release. Benelli is the medium, with the safety in front of the trigger guard, and the slide release just where the 870 has it´s own. The 870 the last one, because the safety is even in a more weird place. I´ve recently bought a Benelli Supernova Confortech with ghost rings and +2 magazine extensión from the factory, and in my opinión is WAY ahead the Mossberg 500´ and 870´s.
I’d like to get into a Benelli. My 870 was rusty trash, my mossberg is currently on its way back to eagle pass tx cause it’s currently dead. Even the replacement parts provided by mossberg didn’t even fix it.
I have 0 experience with the benelli but between the 870 and the 500 it's going to come down to preference. I chose the Mossberg and have not looked back. (3) 500's, (2) 535's, (1) 835, (2) 590's. Having said that I do have 2 870's in the safe just so I can let people shoot them and make up their own mind. Either way you have a great dependable shotgun for not a whole lot of money that will serve you well for years. Can't go wrong with either.
I just bought a Mossberg 835 which was returned due to shells releasing from the tube when the shotgun was fired or when racking the shotgun. A second Mossberg 835, which was supposed to be the replacement for my first 835, did the exact same thing when shells were racked. My honest gun shop gave me a full refund and shipped both Mossbergs out for manufacturer repair.
Two things I will throw out here on the Mossberg and 870 [I have never shot the Nova]. One, add a Vang Comp safety to the 870 and it is magic to release the safety. Two if you put a pistol grip stock on the 500 you destroy it's wonderful ability of the tang safety as you now have to completely release your shooting grip to manipulate it. My department issued 870 and I used one for almost 27 years, so that is hat is on watch in my home due to familiarity.
I just bought the nova this morning at 2am online. Was only $325 after a $50 discount for singing up for a sportsman’s warehouse credit card along with a $25 store gift card for buying the nova. Going right now to pick it up with the money saved will be buying some shells.
I got my Benelli Nova boxing day sale. Cheaper than either the 500 or the 870. So if price is the mediating factor you can definetly catch the Nova for the same price occasionally on sale making it worth it
The 500 series are just solid dependable workhorses. Not as smooth or refined, just super solid and dependable. (I’ll take my 1100 over all 3 of these)
Yep my late pops early 80's 1100 12ga. and my early 90's 870 Magnum 12ga all day every day so I'm not ashamed of being a Remington fanboy and by the way my pops 1100 has 10+1 capacity and my 870 has a 8+1 capacity !!!
I love my nova but it cost be a 6 pointer at 20 yards with a board side shot there was a click and no bang but I didn’t get a chance to clean it the night before
Great video. I own 2 Weatherby shotguns and I love em', but I've been looking at a 500 and 870 lately. I'll probably go with the 500. Excellent review!
I have had all 3, waterfowl hunted with all of them. Have the NOVA propped in. The corner of my bedroom for protection. I bought an 870 express, hunted with it once and sold it to a friend , losing 30 bucks. Felt cheap, the barrel slowly rusting right in front of me in the morning fog. The Mossberg 500 was my first shotgun, given to me in the 1970’s. I still have it today. Good blueing, good wood finish, never failed, havent used it much in many years . I also bought a NOVA when they first came out. Great shotgun. I installed a Mercury recoil reducer in the stock with the frame in like 5 minutes. Added a little weight to the hollow stock but also helped a lot in shooting 3.5 inch BB shells for geese. Many times when hunting salt water, the NOVA would get sprayed a lot in the boat and handled with salt/ muddy hands all day. No babying waterfowl guns in the salt marsh. At night I would remove the barrel and hold it and also the stock and reciever under the shower to clear out the salt. Put it in the corner in a pail to drain over night. Use it the next day with a spray of WD40 in the barrel and action. Did this for a week at a time. That gun took a beating year after year. It never failed. 3.5 goose loads down to 2.75 dove loads, always cycled and shot. What I like about the NOVA vs the others beyond it’s overall design: NOVA comes standard with a 3.5 chamber. The other two charge a lot for the 3.5 version, a different shotgun with the Mossberg if you want 3.5 NOVA comes with a chrome lined barrel as a standard feature, others not so NOVA has the shell cut off feature, standard, others not available at any cost. NOVA has built in gun strap points, others dont. NOVA has an end cap that is also a tool for knocking out the pin to remove the trigger assembly that comes out in one piece. Others do not. NOVA was originally designed for the POLICE in Europe. The others were designed for. Sportsman. NOVA is manufactured by Benelli, a top firearm company in Europe, the USA and the world. Benelli is big in clay sports of all types, where is Remington and Mossberg? Remington is sold mostly in North America. Remington has been know for dropping it’s quality as well as Mossberg. Remington is currently in bankruptcy proceedings.
had my first jam from my supernova today! granted, it was after about 50 shots, but for 1 jam after 8 years, I can't complain. the only problem I really have with it is the lack of aftermarket and factory parts, and the long ass pump (I guess I shouldn't complain considering it can shoot 3 1/2 inch magnums)
Yeah, the 3.5 inch chambered pump shotguns are made with long action bars to prevent the gun from trying to feed 2 shorter shells while being able to load the 3.5 inchers. The fastest and shortest stroking pump shotguns are made to accomodate 2.75 inch shells only for this reason.
Benelli supernova nova is well worth the money Remington 870 will rust in your gun safe the finish is so bad stovepipe mossberg a little better you get what you pay for
Great video! I recently handled a couple new Mossberg 590s in a gun store and the action was so stiff as though it was in a bind… Turn me off immediately. I handled a couple new Mossberg 500s and the difference was night and day with such smooth action. I would assume the 590 and 500 are built off of the same platform? has anyone else experienced this with Mossberg?
Your correct about the controls in my opinion, the mossberg is over $100 cheaper but I just bought one although I do have a 877 Remington that’s great but the safety button is not easy
Only one choice for me: Mossberg. Reason: I shoot from the left shoulder, and cross-bolt safeties aren't my friend. I'm digging this channel. I hope to see more new stuff from you soon!
I shoot lefty too. There's a trick where you can reverse the cross bolt safety on the Benelli. That said, I use the Benelli for birds and the Mossberg for home defense.
I on all of these and two of the Mossberg. I had purchased a third Maasberg recently and I was greatly disappointed this thing would either jam on misfire every time I want to use it. It was one of the Mossberg set comes with two barrels one for deer hunting. When I brought it down to the local gun shop to have the scope put on and bore sighted they told me in the barrel was tweet couldn’t be cited in. so yes I definitely think the new Mossberg‘s are junk. I’m not sure when their production went to shit.
Mossberg FTW! (Disclaimer: I cut and pasted the quoted text from a response I recently made on another video.) "My parents gifted me with a brand new Mossy 500A combo (it came with a bird barrel, and a slug barrel) for my 21st b-day. Over 40 years later, it is my go-to shotgun, and I took another deer with it this year . It's a smoothbore slug barrel that prints a standard paper plate at 100 yds every shot; less than 6" groups with open sights. The action is smooth as butter, and I can cycle it one-handed (which I don't advise). I love that gun, it's a keeper. YMMV, and invariably will..."
What do you guys think of the browning bps? I have had a Remington 870. And had issues. Wouldn't feed. Then when cleaning I pulled the pump arm out but the bolt stayed in the chamber ,:S
BPS is my favorite pump shotgun of all time. The slide and trigger are both so smooth that I could shoot pairs in sporting clays no problem. You hardly notice cycling another shell.
As a gunsmith, the mossberg is the easiest to service of the 3. The 870 is a good shotgun until you need to drive the receiver to replace an ejector...
The Bellini performed flawlessly, has a corrosive resistant polymer coating, shell stop, can utilize all 12 gauge shell sizes., and has good controls/ergonomics, but rank it third because of price?
@@archeryhunter72 well, before this garbage the last few months... You could occasionally find deals on shotguns. Not anymore. I'd take the deal as well. Edit- I bought two (one down the road will be my son's) in January... Ended up coming out to be like $419.
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I’ve been the owner of many pump shotguns over the last 50+ years , the Benelli supernova tactical I have now is the best so far .
Benelli Nova wins out. I've owned all three listed in the video. The nova has a smoother action, better ergonomics, and if you install the mercury recoil buffer, it handles stout rounds fairly well. Also the ability to use 3.5" rounds is a nice plus. The magazine disconnect option is nice. You can practice firing and loading a round manually and still have a reserve for rapid fire. The other two don't have that option.
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All great points. I bought the Nova because it shoots 3.5s. That makes it even more versatile, in a group of versatile guns.
@@jessaroo3291 The 590 and the Nova are both $399.99 now. I liked the Nova better. Want to buy USA but the Benelli had a better finish
Is the mercury recoil buffer a Benelli accessory or aftermarket item? 👀
@@seven_auras it's an accessory benelli offers but it's not included with the shotgun
I have 14 shotguns...my nova is my favorite.
Jesus. 14? I would only have a max of 5 in my collection. My grandfather's Nova and 870 Marine Magnum for starters. A single shot Pardner for a fun gun, a semi auto shotgun and then a SPAS-12 because its awesome.
If you want to make some profit, now is the time. Head on over to your favorite auction cite.
I just saw a Rem 870 go for 1,000.
A base model Remington, not even a Wingmaster.
Me too
Versatility is why you own a shotgun. Home defense, plinking, hunting. The more types of shells you can shoot is the better. The fact that the Benelli can reliably and accurately fire any 12 gauge shell on the market and is impervious to weather and regular use makes it the clear winner. And do your homework. I bought mine this year for under $400. The value is there.
That's a phenomenal point! Thank for you sharing! That's a great price btw!
Yeah I got mine for 400
I bought a Nova. It was the exact same price as the 870 and the 500 at the gun store I was at ($400). I also have a Mossberg Maverick 88. It is exactly the same as the 500 except for the trigger group and it is considerably lower in price. I also have my son's 870 Express in my gun safe. The Mossberg and the Remington are both more of a hunting configuration while the Benelli has the shorter barrel. All 3 work flawlessly. I like the mag bypass on the Benelli and it's ability to take the larger shells. I like the control configuration on the Mossberg the best. I also love my son's 870 Express. I would have a hard time picking a favorite. There are more options to change the Remington and Mossberg configurations but the Benelli does have a larger mag tube available and it does have the recoil reducer as an option as well. I haven't purchased those yet but they are on my list. That might swing the Benelli into first place if the recoil reducer works as advertised. Just buy them all and figure it out for yourself. I suspect you will keep all 3.
I love my Nova. That beast eats everything. Never had a jam or malfunction. Gets smoother every time you go shooting.
I have a supernova, its true what you say about the action getting smoother. But I've had issues with the gun trying to load two shells with 2 3/4 inch shells. I've come to the conclusion it's because you can work the pump back far enough to load a 3.5 inch shell, so I'm curious are you using 3 inch shell? Or do you think it's actually a manufacturing defect?
DeathTDOW ive used 3” and also 3 1/2” never a problem. I haven’t messed around with a supernova so it’s hard to say. I’ve been wanting to try one. Call Benelli, they have knowledgeable customer service, maybe they can figure something out for ya. Good luck!
@@kyles280 I only asked as the problems only seem to be with 2 3/4 inch shells. Moreover, it's not unique to the Benelli, my bro's Mossberg 335 Ulti-mag has the same feeding issues with 2 3/4 inch shells.
@@deathtdow I shoot 2 3/4 and 3 and never had a problem
Nova can shoot 3 1/2 in. magnum rounds. Other two cannot.
Sure they can. Rem super mag and the 835 moss
Or the Moss 535.
Elpidio Simon , moss berg 535 can
Who needs a 3.5 inch 12 gauge?
anton1949 My thoughts exactly. I have 9 12ga shotguns, 4 of them can shoot 3” shells and I never do. I carry a 1959 & 1980 Wingmaster. A 1967 Remington Model 1100. A Winchester model 1897 and a model 12. None of which have a even a 3” chamber. My two 14” 590a1 SBS’s and 14” Shockwave have 3” chambers but I never shoot 3” shells. Same with my Winchester Defender (1300). I like the option, but never use it. I’ve never shot a 2 3/4” slug, 00 buck, 1 buck or 4 buck at something and thought to my self “If I only I had a little more power...”. If I was a Turkey/water fowl/ goose hunter I might feel different. 2 3/4” shells had been getting it done for many many many decades.
The nova is by far superior! Best pump action shotgun on the market! Ran thousands of rounds through mine and it’s never failed. Italians rlly know how to make a shotgun!
Mine 870 was handed down from my dad and has over 15000 rounds through it at least amd has never had a part replaced, the only reason its ever malfunctioned is because we didnt pump the handguard back far enough or the ammo was faulty
@@Motorcyclecbr I'm shocked, absolutely shocked that a gun made decades ago is good quality.
Savage make the best shotguns ever made. I bought my Savage Stevens yesterday and had 300000 4” shells through it and it runs better than any shotgun ever made! Floridians really know how to make a shotgun!
Everyone here is a round counting FOOL... because MOST gun owners don't put 5,000/10,000/30,000 rounds through their guns... most sight them in or pattern them for hunting and they sit in the closet, except maybe for a bit of plinking, hunting, or self defense... you may be talking 50-100 rounds a year, or less... what's important is design, where is the safety and slide release? How easy is it to load in low light or even in the dark? and what type and length of barrel(s) do you need for what you're using it for? What sizes of shells will they shoot? Mossberg (with an adapter) will shoot shorts, which YES are just as deadly in a home defense scenario.
Second best.
The Browning BPS is the top of the line pump action.
The Nova is awesome, especially at 3/5ths the price of a BPS.
For what it is worth, I've been having a Mossberg 500 for about 20 years. Never jammed or failed me. I duck hunt mostly and a number of other things sprinkled in there. Again, it has NEVER failed me in any way. I'm pretty rough on it at times, too.
My Moss'y has ammo issues. It doesn't like Rem. low brass shot shells. I've gotten smokestack jams with field loads; high brass, never an issue. Once, only once, I had a smokestack jam with its favorite slug round. I may have short-cycled the action, but I'm not sure because I jumped up a buck at close quarters and scared the H*ll out of both of us...
"all of them can be found for right around the price of a nagant revolver" what an odd thing to compare price to
I have all three , I love them all . For hunting I prefer the Bennelli it’s lighter and impervious to the elements.
Benelli Nova is definitely superior for hunting purpose.
It doesn't kill anything deader than the Remington or Mossberg. Lol.
Tim vest actually it’s actually better for duck hunting there built that way so yes there definitely superior definitely if you waterfowl hunt
@@that-soul-reaper-4u24 There's a video on youtube by a guy named mitchhunts, or something like that, I'm sure he would disagree with you. The Nova is a low end Benelli for a reason, it's not a $2,000 shotgun. Kind of sounds like it's a bit shit to be honest. Even in this video they admitted to hearing of feeding issues. Built better for duck hunting huh? Lmao!
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The video posted by Dillon Brown, made superior...yeah, it looks like it.
@@that-soul-reaper-4u24 btw it's "they're" definitely superior, not there.
No thanks, i really don't like the polymer reciever. Wouldn't own a Benelli.
I have both a 28" and tactical bedside Benelli. I have owned all 3 and the Benellis survived the cut after about 6+ years.
The Nova is a 3.5 inch shell shotgun, while the other two are 3 inch shell shotguns. The feeding issues come with the 3.5 territory. It happens because you can work the action back far enough to load a 3.5 inch shell, which means with 2 3/4 inch shells you can have issues with the gun trying to load two shells.
The feeding issues with the Benelli are probably from short-stroking the pump. Because it can chamber 3.5-inch shells, the Nova has a longer pump stroke than the Mossberg or Remington. That's been my experience. Obviously YMMV
Great point
The Nova is the best gun of those three, no question...
I just got the Mossberg 500 with the pistol grip recently and it was close to $550. Really good and reliable gun great for home defense and just going to the shooting range. I probably will be getting a Remington next. Thanks for your video.
I have owned dozens of tactical 12 gauge pump shotguns since the 80s. Back then they were called "riot guns" Here is my opinion with 30+ years experience: BENELLI Nova and Supernovas are superior and by a wide margin. Mossbergs have dreadful quality control issues and design flaws. Both Mossberg 590s I owned would engage the top mounted safety when firing magnum slugs and buckshot. This is basically a failure to fire malfunction when every single time you fire a shot you have to disengage the safety switch to fire again. Remington 870s are a vast improvement over Mossberg but Remington's reputation is in question as their quality has been steadily declining since about 2007-8 or so. Older 870s are superior but some will only fire 2 3/4" shells. NOVA and SUPERNOVA are by far my favorite 12 gauge pumps ever. The push button magazine stop alone makes their design more desirable to me. Ability to accept 2 3/4, 3 and 3 1/2" is a huge plus. They are Italian, look cool and affordable.
craigdamage agree i had a remington 870 had lot of problems. stuck spent shells and stove pipes. i have benelli nova now. that thing is flawless. no rust and eats everything. and spits shells with authority.
I turned 18 recently and the first gun i bought was a Benelli Nova, My dad owns a Mossberg 500 and a Remington 1187. I went to my gun shop (Mich-i-gun) and they all recommended the Benelli just like my dad. Greatest pump action shotgun i could ever ask for.
craigdamage Nice point you have made, but I would like to point put I do have a older 870, (bought it back in 1997) and it fires both
2 3/4 and 3 inch loads.
Couldn’t agree more!
I'd say Hatsan/Armsan > any today's american 12ga.
Everyone and their brother recommended the 870 to me bragging about reliability. Picked one up and found it to be an absolute nightmare. Constant stuck shells after firing, would not eject. Was told to polish the chamber, did that, no effect, even did a barrel swap from Carlson's, still a problem. Got rid of that piece of garbage and bought a BPS, zero issues, worked flawlessly. Funny thing is though I have two other friends with 870's, zero problems. Also know others who own the 500 and the Nova, both fantastic. Probably just a fluke thing with the 870 I owned, but regardless I thought I'd share my experience.
Mossberg, and certainly Remington, are not the companies they once were. These days it’s all about cranking out volume…I’m sure Benelli and Browning also care about volume, but they definitely don’t seem to have the same QC issues. I had a BPS Field 12ga for a while…it was very reliable and I liked the bottom ejection, but the Nova just seems more well made. I shoot XBolt rifles so it’s not that I dislike Browning or anything…just hard to beat the Nova.
Same, I have had nothing but issues with my modern 870.
I've also always favored the Mossberg 500 series myself, I like how the elevator is not in the way when you load shells and I also like the ambidextrous safety and the position of the slide release, I am also from Connecticut where they are made so I have always been biased
Thanks for the review! Great job!
I love my Supernova. Specifically got it for it's 3-1/2" chambering. Most flexible and I find it incredibly comfortable.
The "slide release" of the benelli is perfectly placed to operate with the trigger finger. Having it on the other side like on the 870 is much less ergonomic.
plus I've noticed while out duck hunting that the controls of the benelli are much easier to use with gloves on than the controls on my mossberg 500.
I agree…might require a slight grip adjustment for some but it’s directly forward of where a right hand shooter’s finger is already
Great vid/demo !!!
I happened to own all 3 of these shotguns. I love each one.
I own all 3 of these and I somewhat agree with your assessment. Each shotgun has its own niche. For a tactical shotgun then hands down 870 or Mossberg maverick 88 with the extended magazine tube. Slight edge to the 870 for customization in mag extensions etc. For high volume clay target shooting then hands down the Benelli Nova.
I’m in the market for a new shot gun. I looked at a Benellinova yesterday and I liked it. I also like the mossberg 500. I will probably go with the nova
Great choice.
Bennelli - No tools required for teardown! use the nut on the tube to remove the trigger group pins - easier to clean, polished barrel
Great video. Good job!
I own all 3. Mossberg and Remington in 18.5 inch tactical version, Benelli 28 inch for hunting. I still prefer my Benelli for self defence and hunting. Self rotating bolt assist gives you clear pump for following shots.
Bro, this are quality videos. Where are the subscribers! Hope this channel grows big!
Had a bunch of old 2 3/4 reloads we were shooting clays with not long ago, couldn’t get them to load and eject reliably in three different 870’s we had (all different eras and express/wingmaster) and they worked 80%+ in our supernova compared to 0% in the 870’s and an A5. Other than that I’ve never had either nova or 870 jam/lock up ever after years of clays and bird hunting. Being polymer coated also means I would much rather expose the benelli to the elements instead of constantly fighting rust on my old blued receiver even though I love the way they look but I also love camo on the nova. The supernova has an oversized trigger guard for gloves and in my opinion the pump is way more ergonomic as well as having a shimmed stock with much more adjustability and recoil technology. I’m left handed and I could care less about the differences between safety ergonomics on these three, just train and you won’t even notice plus I think the nova might be reversible idk. Trust me I love classic American guns more than anything but for hard use I’ve gotta say the benelli is the better tool. Probably due to being a much newer design honestly
Mossberg fan boy here. I really love mossberg's guns. I also want to be a benelli fanboy, but I haven't had the money. My dream semi auto shotgun is a benelli m4 with the adjustable stock.
The feeding issues of the nova are short stroke related, i've short stroked mine a lot after using my mosberg 500 it feels like the pump is a little longer of a stroke.
It is longer in the action because of the ability to handle 3.5" shells. Your mosberg 500 cannot do that.
I had the list the same ! Mossberg 500/590 wins hands down! It's as user friendly as they get especially reloading it ! All three are Quality shotguns
I live in Canada and I envy that you've earned the right to own these beauties. I salute you!
Who else is watching this in the 2021 ammo crisis and cringed when they said you can buy ammo fairly cheap
I have the supernova it is pretty darn amazing for a pump. Only issues I have is my hands are smaller and I have issues with the slide grip being a bit too fat and a little uncomfortable. I have learned to shoot differently to make it comfortable. Then I have heard to change out the but pad to the better gel shaped benelli but pad and it makes it better
The Benelli has a chrome lined barrel the others don’t. My supernova has been flawless. And it shoots 3 1/2” shells.
I had three shotguns in tactical style. Mossberg 590, Mossberg 500 and the Benelli Nova Tactical. I still have the Benelli Nova. I personally think it is the smoothest functioning shotgun in the tactical format I have ever owned. I love Mossberg and the Remington rocks too. All I am saying is the Nova edged them all out for me. It's a very subjective choice. Nice video and I think you have sound logic. Thanks for the test and evaluation.
I think anyone could make a sound argument for any one of these shotguns. All great choices
I've owned many high-end shotties. My mossberg maverick 88 is the only one thay ever stuck around. Feels perfect, shoots perfect, and has zero problems. It's just a really good balance, and I can justify the price. Years of fun.
I have a 500 and an 870. I actually like the controls of the 870, and find them more intuitive (even as a lefty shooting right handed weapons) field strip is simpler as well
You should have compared with the Benelli Nova tactical model, standard ghost sites and 18 1/2inch barrel plus Benelli quality.
The benelli slide release could be a problem for some people but i have big hands so i don’t have to move my grip or let go i can hit it with my pointer
I won't comment on the 870 as I don't own one and don't remember ever shooting one.
I have a 500 and love it. I'm sold on the open elevator design and the elevator stays tight against the bolt when the action is closed. As said in the video - easy to load because there's nothing in the way. I would think the open elevator would also be beneficial for clearing malfunctions should you ever have one - I have not. I have the long mag tube on mine and a 20" barrel. This is my home defense rig.
I also own a Nova. It shoots as good as it looks. I've used mine for hunting and it's made many trips to the trap and skeet range. Very smooth and balanced. I installed the mercury recoil reducer to help with recoil because it gets a lot of rounds through it in each sporting clays session and the reducer helps quite a bit. It's seen a lot of rounds and I've never had a malfunction from it, either. It's stated in the video that a few people complained about malfunctions specifically with the Nova. Look at videos on TH-cam for all three of these shotguns (and any others) and you will find people complaining about issues with all of them. Some issues may be an individual gun, some may be the shooter. I can vouch for mine, though. They're both great.
I've always liked the safety position of the Remingtons instead of the others. You have to come out of the trigger guard to disengage on them. You can go into the trigger to shoot and squeeze (if your hand is adult size) to fire. Or, it's on the way to the trigger if you're carrying the gun by the grip. To engage, you come out of the trigger guard and pull with your index or middle finger to engage (assuming right-handed). The slide release being forward is the price you pay. However, 99% of the time, you don't want to be engaging the trigger when you're racking the gun; so, it's a small price to functionality.
i'll keep my mossberg500 12g, haven't had a issue with it yet, for the past 12yrs never had a flaw once with it yet cause I unlike others take care of my guns.
Amen Brother, have had mine for 33 years. Still my go to shotgun.
Love my Nova but all are great guns.
Cool video, very informative, thanjs for that..
I have a 20 gauge 870 and love it I have handled both the mossberg from my dad and the nova from my uncle in 12 gauge all three are great though when I buy another shotgun I’m leaning towards the nova since it can shoot 2.75 -3.5 inch shell but all 3 are great all personal preference
I'm trying to decide between the Benelli SuperNova and a Remington 870 Wingmaster. Is the recoil on the SuperNova noticeably less?
I just bought a Mossberg Maverick 88 a cheaper version of the 500 over a month ago. Never had any issues i'll take it any day of the week. Mossberg guy for life.
This video was done very professionally! ABSOLUTELY GREAT CAMERA WORK and your production quality really deserves many more subscribers! Personally, I own a Remington 870, but I'm considering to get a Benelli Nova just for kicks. How many 2-3/4 in shells can the Nova hold in the magazine tube?
4+1 I think
I frequently see great emphasis being placed on the location of a combat shotgun's safety and slide release. Many consider the Mossberg's ergonomics superior. I'm going to tell you a universal truth... With combat shotguns In combat, these things are utterly unimportant. Here's an example. You are part of a team assigned to clear a building. Let's move beyond breaching the building and get to entering. You will have a round in the chamber and the safety off. From here on, your trigger finger is your primary safety until the building is clear and secure. Trigger and muzzle discipline herein rules the roost.
Slide release... You have no need to unlock or open the action unless you suffer a serious feed malfunction, whereupon you will fall back to the tail of the team to clear the jam or simply discard the shotgun and go with your secondary weapon. You can recover it later. Other than a malfunction, there will be no reason to open the action. Misfire? Cycle the action. Reload on the fly as needed. Again, trigger and muzzle discipline are your safeties.
House cleared and secured... Now you can set the safety to on and unload the chamber. There will not be a reason to do either while working the house. Thus, the ergonomics of the shotgun are unimportant, because you should not be using either while engaged in clearing or a fight. They may seem important playing around on the range, but you will not be fighting on the target range. You may be fighting from your bedroom door, in the dark, in your skivvies. Train the way you will most likely fight and you'll fight the way you trained. Understand what concealment and cover are, and how they differ... Trigger and muzzle discipline... Much to know and practice to be truly proficient. Safety and slide release location are absolutely at the bottom of the list.
Think about it. You have bad guys close by. Why the hell would you want to unlock and open the action of your shotgun? Likewise, why would you set the safety? You won't do either (unless you have the common sense of frozen clam). Later, you can do both at your leisure, when the threat is, without doubt, gone.
Also, I prefer a crossbolt safety to the tang safety for several reasons. I'm right-handed and the ambidextrous safety doesn't matter. Recoil can be an issue with the Mossberg tang safety. Moreover, I can feel if the crossbolt is on fire. With the 870, it partially obstructs access to the trigger when on safe. Especially if you install an oversized safety button. With the Mossberg, you'd better look at it. I'll take tactile over just ambidextrous every time. Another Mossberg issue... If you drop it on its side hard enough, a shell lifter pivot lug can pop out of its hole in the receiver. You're out of the fight until you get the lug back into its hole. Not easy to do in the dark in a combat situation. Granted, you have to drop it just right, but I have seen it happen. Not a great design feature.
To reiterate, for a combat shotgun, used in actual combat, the ergonomics of the safety and slide release are completely unimportant. You should never use either with a threat in close proximity. You should not be concerned about moving your hand from a shooting position, because you will not have to. Learn to reload with your weak hand. reload the chamber first. I happen to own an 870 Express Tactical and a Mossberg 500 Tactical, among several other tactical shotguns. All of them will do the job...
Great comment. Lots of good points.
Finally a fighter's perspective using a shotgun! Well said!
No offense, but I would like to know what qualifies you to speak on this. A lot of assumptions are made here. One is that you will never run out of ammo while clearing. Shit happens, what if you get through with one room and immediately 2 people run in shooting? You gonna tell them to wait till you have enough shells loaded? Of course not, you shoot back. Second assumption is that keeping a weapon on safe is not standard procedure by anyone in a combat arms profession. That is false. It is common knowledge that sometimes, shit happens. You trip and fall because theres a metal wire in the doorway, fall and nail your buddy in the hip with buckshot. All because you were too "smart" for the safety.
If you don't clear buildings, and your not in combat all that stupid shit don't mean nothing, why don't you run it over with your pickup truck, just to make sure.
@@zer0768 that might be true but in either scenario, safety off from the start or safety on until ready for action, I don’t think the design matters. The tang safety is easier to operate, but also easier to potentially snag as it is on the top of the receiver…it’s not shielded by the scope/bolt like on a rifle. In reality you’re probably on switching the safety off, not back on until the job is done.
I think the bigger consideration here is, what did you grow up with or have more time using? If you grew up with an 870 that and the Nova will feel right…grew up with a 500, it’ll feel right.
Personally I’ve owned the 500 and the 870, amongst other makes/models of shotguns…just picked up two Novas, a 12ga and 20ga…20ga for my wife (compact stock). We mostly shoot clays with them together and maybe I’m just doing something right with my 12ga but I haven’t had any feeding issues. I’ll also be using my 12ga for pheasants and probably turkeys…I really like the polymer stock/receiver…seems very weather resistant.
I own all three and I agree...you really have to nit pick them. I have large hands and the Benelli feels better than the other two and I like the chamber clearing button feature. Honestly if I'm going hunting...I'm grabbing the Benelli.
I love my Benelli Nova's (standard long barrel and my new H2O Tactical)
Just came to say that I bought my 870 express brand new and it is a total piece of trash. Broken firing pin, mag follower jams, and now my ejector is broken and it is difficult to repair but I cant even fix it because Remington went out of business and I cant find the part. 10/10 would not recommend.
I have all three and the Nova is my pick with a GG&G mag extension to hold more shells.. Get the enhanced follower with it!
I found the Mossberg´s controls more ergonomic, the safety and slide release. Benelli is the medium, with the safety in front of the trigger guard, and the slide release just where the 870 has it´s own. The 870 the last one, because the safety is even in a more weird place.
I´ve recently bought a Benelli Supernova Confortech with ghost rings and +2 magazine extensión from the factory, and in my opinión is WAY ahead the Mossberg 500´ and 870´s.
I’d like to get into a Benelli. My 870 was rusty trash, my mossberg is currently on its way back to eagle pass tx cause it’s currently dead. Even the replacement parts provided by mossberg didn’t even fix it.
Good video. Totally fair conclusion. I prefer the 870, but all your points are valid.
The Benelli SuperNova tactical 14" is what I went for.
I really like that navy quilted jacket! Who makes it? Where can I find it?
I have 0 experience with the benelli but between the 870 and the 500 it's going to come down to preference. I chose the Mossberg and have not looked back. (3) 500's, (2) 535's, (1) 835, (2) 590's. Having said that I do have 2 870's in the safe just so I can let people shoot them and make up their own mind. Either way you have a great dependable shotgun for not a whole lot of money that will serve you well for years. Can't go wrong with either.
In the 1990s I knew lots of people who had feeding and jamming issues with Rem 870 express. Only heard good things about Wingmaster
I just bought a Mossberg 835 which was returned due to shells releasing from the tube when the shotgun was fired or when racking the shotgun. A second Mossberg 835, which was supposed to be the replacement for my first 835, did the exact same thing when shells were racked. My honest gun shop gave me a full refund and shipped both Mossbergs out for manufacturer repair.
Two things I will throw out here on the Mossberg and 870 [I have never shot the Nova]. One, add a Vang Comp safety to the 870 and it is magic to release the safety. Two if you put a pistol grip stock on the 500 you destroy it's wonderful ability of the tang safety as you now have to completely release your shooting grip to manipulate it. My department issued 870 and I used one for almost 27 years, so that is hat is on watch in my home due to familiarity.
Supernova is seriously where it’s at
I just bought the nova this morning at 2am online. Was only $325 after a $50 discount for singing up for a sportsman’s warehouse credit card along with a $25 store gift card for buying the nova. Going right now to pick it up with the money saved will be buying some shells.
I got my Benelli Nova boxing day sale. Cheaper than either the 500 or the 870. So if price is the mediating factor you can definetly catch the Nova for the same price occasionally on sale making it worth it
The 500 series are just solid dependable workhorses. Not as smooth or refined, just super solid and dependable. (I’ll take my 1100 over all 3 of these)
Yep my late pops early 80's 1100 12ga. and my early 90's 870 Magnum 12ga all day every day so I'm not ashamed of being a Remington fanboy and by the way my pops 1100 has 10+1 capacity and my 870 has a 8+1 capacity !!!
I have seen videos of the fork shaft inside, the two bigger pins on the back of the receiver will come out if dropped and then jam up everything
I love my nova but it cost be a 6 pointer at 20 yards with a board side shot there was a click and no bang but I didn’t get a chance to clean it the night before
Great video. I own 2 Weatherby shotguns and I love em', but I've been looking at a 500 and 870 lately. I'll probably go with the 500. Excellent review!
I have had all 3, waterfowl hunted with all of them. Have the NOVA propped in. The corner of my bedroom for protection. I bought an 870 express, hunted with it once and sold it to a friend , losing 30 bucks. Felt cheap, the barrel slowly rusting right in front of me in the morning fog. The Mossberg 500 was my first shotgun, given to me in the 1970’s. I still have it today. Good blueing, good wood finish, never failed, havent used it much in many years . I also bought a NOVA when they first came out. Great shotgun. I installed a Mercury recoil reducer in the stock with the frame in like 5 minutes. Added a little weight to the hollow stock but also helped a lot in shooting 3.5 inch BB shells for geese. Many times when hunting salt water, the NOVA would get sprayed a lot in the boat and handled with salt/ muddy hands all day. No babying waterfowl guns in the salt marsh. At night I would remove the barrel and hold it and also the stock and reciever under the shower to clear out the salt. Put it in the corner in a pail to drain over night. Use it the next day with a spray of WD40 in the barrel and action. Did this for a week at a time. That gun took a beating year after year. It never failed. 3.5 goose loads down to 2.75 dove loads, always cycled and shot.
What I like about the NOVA vs the others beyond it’s overall design:
NOVA comes standard with a 3.5 chamber. The other two charge a lot for the 3.5 version, a different shotgun with the Mossberg if you want 3.5
NOVA comes with a chrome lined barrel as a standard feature, others not so
NOVA has the shell cut off feature, standard, others not available at any cost.
NOVA has built in gun strap points, others dont.
NOVA has an end cap that is also a tool for knocking out the pin to remove the trigger assembly that comes out in one piece. Others do not.
NOVA was originally designed for the POLICE in Europe. The others were designed for. Sportsman.
NOVA is manufactured by Benelli, a top firearm company in Europe, the USA and the world.
Benelli is big in clay sports of all types, where is Remington and Mossberg?
Remington is sold mostly in North America.
Remington has been know for dropping it’s quality as well as Mossberg.
Remington is currently in bankruptcy proceedings.
Also, Mossberg’s lowest priced shotgun is the Maverick 88 and Remington’s is the 870 Express. The lowest Benelli is the NOVA.
I just watched this video. I learned that the NOVA also has a 10 year warranty.
Do you hunt with the Nova on cold wet weather? How is it on this condition?
had my first jam from my supernova today! granted, it was after about 50 shots, but for 1 jam after 8 years, I can't complain. the only problem I really have with it is the lack of aftermarket and factory parts, and the long ass pump (I guess I shouldn't complain considering it can shoot 3 1/2 inch magnums)
Yeah, the 3.5 inch chambered pump shotguns are made with long action bars to prevent the gun from trying to feed 2 shorter shells while being able to load the 3.5 inchers. The fastest and shortest stroking pump shotguns are made to accomodate 2.75 inch shells only for this reason.
what model is that fiber optic front sight on the mossberg 500? thanks.
The slide release on the Benelli seems like a good thing though?
Benelli supernova nova is well worth the money Remington 870 will rust in your gun safe the finish is so bad stovepipe mossberg a little better you get what you pay for
That's just a ridiculous statement.
If stuff rusts in your safe like that, you REALLY need some silica gel dehumidifiers. Badly.
How about clean your freaking gun?
Great video! I recently handled a couple new Mossberg 590s in a gun store and the action was so stiff as though it was in a bind… Turn me off immediately. I handled a couple new Mossberg 500s and the difference was night and day with such smooth action. I would assume the 590 and 500 are built off of the same platform? has anyone else experienced this with Mossberg?
Your correct about the controls in my opinion, the mossberg is over $100 cheaper but I just bought one although I do have a 877 Remington that’s great but the safety button is not easy
i own all three, my Mossberg is the 590. i put the Benelli at first place. Mossbreg at second.
Only one choice for me: Mossberg.
Reason: I shoot from the left shoulder, and cross-bolt safeties aren't my friend.
I'm digging this channel. I hope to see more new stuff from you soon!
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I shoot lefty too. There's a trick where you can reverse the cross bolt safety on the Benelli. That said, I use the Benelli for birds and the Mossberg for home defense.
I've got a mossberg maverick. it's a budget 500 and the maverick is amazing especially for the price point.
considering getting a benelli nova 20 ga
I on all of these and two of the Mossberg. I had purchased a third Maasberg recently and I was greatly disappointed this thing would either jam on misfire every time I want to use it. It was one of the Mossberg set comes with two barrels one for deer hunting. When I brought it down to the local gun shop to have the scope put on and bore sighted they told me in the barrel was tweet couldn’t be cited in. so yes I definitely think the new Mossberg‘s are junk. I’m not sure when their production went to shit.
Love the 500
Same here.
This was a well done video and I’m surprised! I would’ve def thought nova being top #1
VERY WELL DONE ! YOU MUST BE A IDIOT TOO
I'm biased towards my Benelli Nova with a +4 mag and hi-viz sight
Mossberg FTW! (Disclaimer: I cut and pasted the quoted text from a response I recently made on another video.) "My parents gifted me with a brand new Mossy 500A combo (it came with a bird barrel, and a slug barrel) for my 21st b-day. Over 40 years later, it is my go-to shotgun, and I took another deer with it this year . It's a smoothbore slug barrel that prints a standard paper plate at 100 yds every shot; less than 6" groups with open sights. The action is smooth as butter, and I can cycle it one-handed (which I don't advise). I love that gun, it's a keeper. YMMV, and invariably will..."
I have looked at all three and decided on the Mossberg. great video, thanks!
What do you guys think of the browning bps? I have had a Remington 870. And had issues. Wouldn't feed. Then when cleaning I pulled the pump arm out but the bolt stayed in the chamber ,:S
BPS is my favorite pump shotgun of all time. The slide and trigger are both so smooth that I could shoot pairs in sporting clays no problem. You hardly notice cycling another shell.
I love my Nova tactical, but my 870 Marine Magnum and the Mossberg 500 beat it for 1 major reason for me: Customization.
Which store did you buy the benelli from....cause I need one for peigon shooting
thoroughly enjoyed ! subscribed.
Thanks brother!
Benelli at last place? ... I did not think it would ever happen.
67claudius well, maybe because it's the most expensive out of the three?
Quality costs, you know.
67claudius true
David Ji quality my friend... they other 2 feel cheap specially the 500 moss
The Benelli Nova can't be customized, aside from a different barrel or having to drill and tap the receiver.
As a gunsmith, the mossberg is the easiest to service of the 3. The 870 is a good shotgun until you need to drive the receiver to replace an ejector...
Do one on the Del-ton 360 echo Smith and Western sport the Ruger AR15s Using different ammunition
All of these guns are great and this video have given me good insight about these guns and you can never go wrong with a pump shotgun
The Bellini performed flawlessly, has a corrosive resistant polymer coating, shell stop, can utilize all 12 gauge shell sizes., and has good controls/ergonomics, but rank it third because of price?
Your point is understood. But at the price, you can get multiple 500's and still send lead down the barrel.
@@elche1976 bs... Tell me where i can buy multiple mossberg 500's for $400...ill take that deal.
@@archeryhunter72 well, before this garbage the last few months... You could occasionally find deals on shotguns. Not anymore. I'd take the deal as well.
Edit- I bought two (one down the road will be my son's) in January... Ended up coming out to be like $419.
Buy all 3 👍