1980 Catalina 22 Sailboat Detailed Interior Review
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- Part 1 of a series of videos on the ubiquitous Catalina 22 swing keel trailerable sailboat.
A sailboat video series designed with the new enthusiast in mind, or for those who love to reminisce...
this was OUR BOAT!!! We sold her around 2011 or so, to a person who wanted to race her, in Folsom Lake, I believe. Looking at the video, she's the same even down to the pillows in the v-berth, which my wife made. The picture in the salon is a photo of Tarbert Harbor in the Hebrides, and your dinette table, I made as the original was just cheap plywood. I also added the heavy duty dogs which hold the table to the cabin. We had a VHF, full cruising lights for sailing at night or anchoring, and that mess of wiring is definitely NOT ours! We did all the wiring with marine grade connections, protected by heat shrink over the connections. Originally from Antelope, we even cruised her in the San Juans one August, leaving from Anacortes. We moved to high in the Cascades, and sailing in some of the lakes here, because of the steep-sided mountain surrounding them, makes them subject to high winds. We miss her, but it looks like she's doing a good job for you. She's a wonderful little boat!!
WOW! Thanks for checking in Alex!
This is so awesome haha. Love seeing comments like these. One time we ran into my mom's old car. The guy we sold it to lied to the new owner and said a new motor was put in it. He popped the hood open and my father (a mechanic) knew it was the same engine from when we had it. But it was nice seeing the car again a few years later. Can't imagine seeing it on TH-cam though! Haha
now we know who did the wiring
This is probably one of the best videos I’ve ever seen for a “boat tour.” A lot of us cruise TH-cam watching model specific videos, hoping to pick up one or two tidbits of info out of dozens (if there are dozens) of 5-10 min videos. This one video topped all of that in one place. Thank you for going through the effort of making it.
Thanks! I honed my craft for doing detailed reviews on motorcycles.
Totally agree with this comment. Maybe because I am also both pilot and sailer. He describes the boat as he might describe an airplane.
Oh Juan, this brings back memories. My folks had one built in 1982; Dad had bought a Sunfish in 1979 & lo & behold Mom loved it so much 6 weeks later they bought a used 22'. 3 yrs later they had one custom-built. Sailed every weekend they could down in Oklahoma. Dad died in '85, Mom tried on her own but it was hard (memories, not lack of sailors or ability) & sold it in '87. VERY FUN BOAT! Enjoy!
I always say:
Fishing and being on the water: Irons the wrinkles out of my soul.
We had a Catalina 27 and we had it at the time in Channel Islands. My dad and I raced sailboats and dad sold his Clipper 21 for the Catalina. The Clipper 21 is similar to the Cat22 with the retractable keel. Anyway one day we came back into Port after a race and there in front of the yacht club was the first ever Catalina 30. It was a bit beat up from testing and my dad inquired about it and eventually bought it. Well Butler took the boat back to the factory in Canoga Park and completely refurbished it for us and then my dad put a bow sprit on her and stepped the mast to the keel and added 10 feet to the length for racing. The boat had no interior as it was number one. They build these in three pieces, hull, deck and interior. Well the interior mold was not done and Butler wanted to get it into the boat show so he slapped the deck on it and locked it so no one could get inside. After that he used it for weight and balance testing for the interior design and thats how we came to buy it with no interior. The boat sat about a foot above the waterline because it was so light and our racing handicap was so extreme do to that it was hard to win a race even when we finished first. Anyway, we named the 27 Fury and the 30 was named Rage. If you ever see a Cat 30 named Rage it is number 1 and was my dads boat.
Yep looks like the same guy wired my half cab here in Aus. When I brought it I tidied up the helm wiring and removed 10 ft of wiring and everything still worked lol. Cheers mate.🍻
Juan, my name is Jose. I live in South Florida. I just started to see your video about the Catalina 22 Sailboat. My spouse and I just came back from visiting my elderly Mom in Pensacola. While we were there my brother-in-law happened to have a Catalina 22 in his commercial warehouse and showed it to me. He said he takes it out, from time to time, out in the Perdido Key area, where the water is nice and calm. He mentioned that if I was interested, he would get it ready for next summer and that my spouse and I could go sailing with him and my sister (his wife). It's a long story but I have always been fascinated by sailboats! So here I am, learning all about your boat, which looks just like his. I like the way you present yourself (down to earth) and the way you take the time to mention important things about boating. I continue to watch your videos and maybe experience sailing next summer. So happy to find you and your videos Juan! Thank you! Joe.
Thanks Joe. I sold that Catalina and am fresh out of sailboat adventures at the moment. But a good friend bought a50' vessel - I need to do a sailing review of....
Mate, I thoroughly enjoyed your explanation and shear frustration with the ridiculous wiring, love it. Thanks so much, I have an Australian Sonata 6mtr which is so similar and can totally relate to the wiring dilemma. I am currently building a 40 foot Catamaran and will have it wired by a pro when the time comes.All the best Ross.
Good man, good pilot, good father, you are blessed man!
"Honey, when are you gonna move that boat?!" :D
Please, please use the keel lock. I witnesses two people die on Lake Dillon, Colorado when a gust hit them shortly after leaving the dock. With life jackets, they were trapped in the cabin as it swiftly sank in 450 feet of water. The four without life jackets escaped.
1975 Catalina 22 swing keel no pop top. First boat I ever owned. Bought her with my first commission check from Pioneer at the age of 18. You know a couple guys/couples sailed a group of them from Texas down to Guatemala and then off to the Caymens returning to Key West about a decade ago. There was a write up about them going and returning but then the follow up story never materialized. Basically they said the sailing was easy it you watched for the weather windows and sailed to the boats near limits not yours. Controversy with the visit to Cuba I think kept the whole article out of print. Search youtube and you can find two video interviews.
I've owned two trailersailors and the sight of that keel winch handle below the companionway made me cringe. It is an ACCIDENT waiting to happen....not to mention an annoying tripping hazard.
If this was my boat I would make the winch handle easily/conveniently removable with a stowage solution close by. While there is no problem at all if the keel is down (in the water) or if the keel weight is resting on a block/rest while on the trailer (something you should do to minimize wear)...the problem is one day somebody is going to forget the keel is up (450 pounds hanging on that wire) and then trip/nudge the winch handle and that handle will turn into a WEAPON in a nanosecond. An untimely simple failure of a small part in the winch mechanism will do the same.
With a boat like that more often than not you will anchor in shallow water with the keel up... then you, the wife and the kids will go by that winch handle lots of times going in and out of the cabin during the evening. As a captain, it is NO FUN AT ALL having a family member or guest seriously injure a foot or hand...especially when you're one day's sail away from your tow vehicle.
Dude, if u know a mainsail from a foresail from a jib; you r in. Keep soaring! PS, love the rats nest. That's how farmers string lights and outlets, and how boaters string electrical. No harnessing needed 'cept for the plow mules.
Those Catalina's are great trailer sailors, tons of them still getting regular usage.
you have a plane motorcycle and now a boat sounds your arsenal is almost complete
"Honey, when you going to move that boat?" That's all I needed to hear, Juan.
I laughed out loud at that!
Probably wants to go sailing
The classic saying from the wife to hubby... "I have a name for your boat". Husband, "oh what's that dear?" She says "For Sale". Boating isn't for everyone, but it is very rewarding in ways that usually make up for the expense, for a long while hopefully.
By the look on her face in the picture I think she enjoys it
my wife just said that, when are you going to put it in the water? You have been working on it for 2 years or more
Particularly in that swing keel version it may be the best all around 22' available.
That one looks to be in EXCELLENT condition Juan, should have great times with it.
I am looking at a swing keel for 2500 this week!
First of all, good job with the video. Very informative. As a Catalina 22 owner, one can appreciate the detail provided in your video.
I wanted to touch on the subject of the keel bolt. The keel bolt isn’t to “lock the keel” in place, rather to act as a friction brake in the event of grounding or hitting obstacles in the water so as to not damage the keel trunk; essentially to slow the boat down in a controlled manner. There is a common misconception with the keel bolt and it’s purpose. The Macgregor Venture had a keel bolt design that went through the head of the keel. The through bolt was specifically chosen to bend or break in the event of an underwater collision, which could easily be replaced. Beefing up or changing the design of the keel bolt on the Catalina 22 would be contradictory to the design plan; which if changed could result in damaging the keel trunk (thin fiberglass) to a point which could result in loss of the vessel or keel. Just some food for thought. See below for some interesting references regarding the subject.
thisoldsailboat.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/why-your-swing-keel-lock-bolt-wont-save-you-in-a-knockdown.pdf
www.google.com/amp/s/stingysailor.com/2015/11/07/why-your-swing-keel-lock-bolt-wont-save-you-in-a-knockdown-2/amp/
Great points! Thanks John.
Great video. I think C-22 is more capable than just being a lake boat. I think retractable keel design makes much better sailing boat than shoal draft. However, they stopped investing and now this design is still used on some large yacht and much more sophisticated. I personally don't think that 1 ton boat makes a practical trailer sailer. I think 30-45 minutes launching time is overly optimistic. I would say it would take about an hour to hour and a half for two adults. It could be much longer in the beginning. I think this size sailboat being marketed as trailer sailer is what discourages a lot of people who use it as a starter boat. Nevertheless she's a real beauty and in fantastic shape and loads of fun for persistent sailors.
At 2:18...your drone looks like it's saying..." Look at me , look at me..." well , I got a chuckle out it anyway. Cool production, thanks Juan...sail on.
funny looking shadow...like a bug.
Sure is nice to see someone living the American dream! Goes to show what can be accomplished with good direction, hard work and, no doubt, perseverance!
As I quickly found out, learning to sail is pretty easy...learning to sail WELL takes,a little bit if time.
Check your cockpit drain for a hose. 11;25. Double clamp it with Stainless clamps.
Nice boat at a good price.
I have a Mac 26D and a Siren 17. (Picking up an Opti on Sunday for my daughter.)
Marty
Good idea! Thanks!
Looks like you'd be happier living up here on Puget Sound with the rest of us Vikings !!!
C’mon Juan, sailboats don’t tip, they heel. 😀
Nice boat Juan. As a former professional sailing instructor I always knew the best students were the airplane pilots since they already knew about lift :)
Great video! Your channel is a true gem. Cant wait to see more of you and the boat. I have wanted to sail for a while and this seems to be my most realistic option. Especially living in the midewest.
In was looking for informations for a Catalina 22 (or Jaguar 22 in Europe) Thanks for these videos about that boat. I found all the infos i was looking for. Very nice videos!
My father once owned a 22' trailer sailer. It was the same design as 'The Dove' apparently. It had a twin cylinder Yanmar Deisel in it, and twin keels.
Robin Lee Graham's "Dove"? That was a Lapworth 24.
Can't wait for part 2
Nice. Oh that wiring isn’t that bad. I mean compared to what I’ve seen and even done myself. I have a 22’ Mac. Love it
I just woke up...having my first cup of coffee. This video really made my day! Thanks so much for sharing. I've never been on a tour of a small sailboat. Thanks so much Juan for sharing!
"Welcome Aboard"!
Great stuff Juan - I'm way too old to even consider sailing (did do a bit decades ago) but it's very enjoyable sharing your descriptions etc. Your videos, whatever the subject, are terrific.
A vetran sail maker told me of the "boat owner" conditioning exercises you need to perform before owning a boat.
1) Remove the screen on your shower drain. 2) Put on rain slickers. 3) turn water on full cold. 4) stand and rip up $100 dollar bills, watch them dissapear down the drain. But would not change my 30 years of boating for nothing.
I have to say, that was a very good purchase. You're dead right about electrical systems on boats. They do have a tendency to look exactly like yours, but on a boat like that, you can probably live without it, in this day and age, but it might make a good project for winter. It would certainly make the boat more liveable for a couple of days out. Only poor sailors drink warm beer!
One thing that I noticed was your through hulls. You might want to consider replacing those along with the hose work and double clamp them with quality marine grade clamps.
These are potential points of failure with potentially life ending consequences. You might also consider having some tapered dowls onboard within easy reach with which you can plug holes in the unlikely event of a disaster. And one last thing. Trailer wheel bearings and electricals.
Once again, great purchase. Get the family out for a few weekends over summer and its paid for itself at the price you got her for. Enjoy her, I'm envious.
Enjoyed it Juan, I`m guessing your wife added the Lighthouse cushions to break up the monotony of the dated interior they match well ha ha, the boat makes me think of that great old Beach Boys song "The sloop John B". Happy sailing!
A little time, some solder, shrink wrap, cable clips and tesa tape and you could have that mess cleaned up and professional looking! The Tesa tape is one of the things manufacturers cheap out on, except in the automotive industry! Also before starting buy some 1 x 3/4 Inch Panduit Self-Laminating Laser Inkjet Labels, 91 are $5.79+$3.49 with no tax at "show me labels", use them to label your wiring connections!
Just start with a diagram or layout, use labels, use new wire if possible to replace the mess and pre-wire it all to the control unit, then install it, if you have to do tie-ins just make sure you solder the connections and that you labelled them, only use quick push type connectors where something needs to be removed and reconnected regularly, a cheap 100 watt gun type iron works best for these jobs!
If you need an idea of what I am talking about just swing over to "five star car stereo" and watch a few videos of how they do car audio installations, you are basically doing the same thing on a boat and they could show you some great pointers for fixing your wiring mess, they make their installs look as close to factory as possible and never leave a mess!
I'm susprised the kids don't want to spend the night on it!
I always find it fascinating that the type of person who is into planes are generally into the same other hobbies.. boats, motorcycles, rc stuff, modelling (not the playboy type😂), simulators/computers, photography/cameras etc.. basically anything the costs an arm and a leg to participate in hahh,..
Very nice video, and thank you. One little question, can you explain something about "go to the bathroom" and do N°.1 and N°.2, Thank you, and happy sailing
@blancolirio Im 22 years old and just bought my first boat.
I have i think a 1979 Catalina 22
My boat is in very rough shape.
I need alot of parts. Idk what i need or what its supposed to look like, please feel free to let me know anything that would help me.
I dont know anything about boats. Any advice would be great.
Thanks!
Excellent overview of the Catalina 22. Nice example here given its likely age. It's more of a coastal pocket cruiser than a lake boat with that heavy swing-keel and no mast lowering system. Polish lake boats have some ballast in the bilge, plus a much lighter swing centreboard, drawing a foot of water when up. They also have an A-frame at the bow, which allows the mast and furled headsail to be lowered or raised in minutes under way using a winch at the cockpit. More ocean-going versons have a stub keel and swing centreboard, drawing perhaps a foot and a half when up (somebody sailed a TES 22 footer across the Atlantic a few years ago). I'm surprised that Polish-style lake sailboats have not caught on in a bigger way; the Macgregor sailboats of some years ago were much less substantial than the Polish ones. That style of trailer sailboat certainly opens up many lakes and rivers, allowing easy passage in shallow passages beneath low bridges between sailing areas, e.g. the finger lakes of Ontario and New York state. The Canadian equivalent of the Catalina 22 is the Shark, a 24 footer, which also is extensively raced and has also crossed oceans, but it has a fixed keel.
Good video Juan! As you said these were made in Australia and are known as "Boomaroo 22"'s . Let's know when you're in Sydney next time and we'll have a beer. Andy Mc. B737 and C550 pilot.
That is an incredible shape for nearly a 40 year old boat and for a great price.
Damn, that's a very clean and cozy Catalina (one of the best on youtube), Thank you!, i was wondering if you could clean this up (im very allergic to dust, like someone to bees) and you proof that its just the owners culture and not the crap$i space.
It's time to sell everything, load up the boat with family and supplies and circumnavigate the planet. What could possibly go wrong?
Precious young man ❤️ ❤️ ❤️❤️ ❤️❤️ ❤️
I'm starting to like blancolirio guy
You have too much fun! Making up for those of us who don't have enough fun.
Thank you so much for this video. I love flying airplanes, riding motorcycles, and Sailing boats. It looks like you have a motorcycle, do a video of riding motorcycles.
You might want to use the keel lock if there is the possibility of a lot of wakes. When a C22 with a swing keel hits a wake and pitches, the keel, if not locked, tends not to move with the boat, The result is that the keel can slam against the hull and potentially damage the hull and the swing pin. The keel lock keeps that from happening, although a big wake can bend the keel lock bolt. I found that out the hard way on my swing keel boat back in the 70s (a Venture 21). The fix was easy. Basically I drilled the hole through the keel that the lock bolt went through to 3/4" from the 1/4" it came as. I machined a derlin insert to just fit into the keel and also give a snug fit for a 1/2" stainless steel bolt The heavier bolt gave a stronger lock and the derlin insert stopped the unpleasant banging of the keel against the lock bolt. The only hard part of the project was dropping the keel, but at only 550 lbs that can be done easily with a couple of hydraulic jacks (after you get the boat off the trailer). C22s are nice lake boats though.
Yes Mike, Derlin. Derlin doesn't swell when it gets wet like nylon does. It is also easy to machine and drill. The idea is to provide a strong, snug, low friction mount for the keel bolt.
Delrin is a duPont plastic that makes for very good bearings, probably what's meant here.
The wiring is so bad bc in old boats they have typically been diy jobs to replace original corroded wiring. Often this gets compounded the more the boat has changed hands.
Nice video Juan. Thanks for the information. I have heard some about the history of the catalina's I have sailed a little most power boated for about 25 to 30 years. We are boatless at the moment and do not miss them. LOL You know what they say the two happiest days of a boater is when they buy there first boat and sell there last one. LOL
The kitchenette went in what you called the quarter birth. I agree with the bad wireing. Its why many boats burn. Catalina didnt make replacing the wireing easy either, but every boat has its issues.
Also, a twin air mattress fits perfectly over the dinette. I keep my air matress, pillow, sheets and large beach towels in a laundry vacuum laundry bag. Then if i need my towels for a blanket i have them or there are always towels if needed.
I had one, named it the "secret adventure" wish I still had it. had title trouble when I move from TN to VA, gave up arguing that I actually owed it, and sold it cheap.
Being a bit of a 'sailing nerd'---as it were---I want to congratulate you. Albeit not perfect; your use of the nomenclature was just fine.
With that said I must admit you produced and excellent video. Very well done!
Looking forward to the next video.
A lightning strike provided the opportunity to replace every light and completely rewire my small sailboat. I now know every wire and it's function.
Great boat tour. If I am looking at a Catalina 22, and it is a beginner's boat, we would not understand all the terminology anyway. I learned to sail alone 50 years ago and I still don't know much more than starboard has two Rs and it means right. We had the same El Toro as an American Airlines pilot down the canal from us. Interesting how pilots like the wind!
I keep searching for boat tours for the trailer sailers I am interested in - there's not much out there that compares with this. Thank you for posting and sharing your boat.
Beautiful video thank you, she is a beauty, there is one for sale here in Ireland at the moment and I can't make my mind up about it!. I love the idea of the cooler boxes for the bed. Best wishes. Gérard lacey in Ireland.
Great tour! Glad I stumbled upon this. Would love to master one of these things but I'm afraid my starter would have to be a Sunfish.
WOW! 266 thousand views in 2022!!
Interesting, I have owned about 40 Cat 22, 5 Cat 25, and 3 Cat 30 sailboats. Catalina boats are good for the beginner due to all the info and help on the internet.
im wanting to buy my first boat but have no experience and little money. this video is great! thanks! just what i needed
Have a look at my videos I am busy restoring a 17 ft boat. I agree wiring is a mess. Is there not a way to keep power local to different light etc. So you don't have wires running through the boat.
I just bought a 82 Carolina 22 without a trailer wondering if u could help with pictures of ur boat trailer and some measurements thanks
he seems to treat his possessions like people. Like naming ones dog George.
Your comment made me laugh because my dogs name is George.
Two best days in a boat owner's life.....
irgski the day you buy your boat and the day you sell it.
what is the name of the wood cover for the storage where the chainplate was that holds the hook at the bow? Mine is missing that and I would love to replace it.
Love it
Great primer video on the Cat 22', Juan! Dean and I used to sail Capri 22's on San Diego Bay as members of Harbor Island Yacht Club, which only featured Capris in the 22' model, plus other larger craft--all rentals owned by the Club! We passed our quals during the America's Cup Regatta ahead of the Cup Race in 1988--it was a roaring baptism by fire but an exhilarating accomplishment! Many great memories of times on those 22's and the 280 (I think Hunter) in San Diego Bay! Happy Sailing to the Brownes! ;-)
Can't wait to see you sailing around the world :-) LOL
Please, who sung this cover of ‘if I had a boat’ at the end of the video? Thanks, dom.
The wiring issues are always the result of a quickie repair on the water, or a tool bag solution on the dock while the family is nagging you to get out on the water
9:26 you can get a plastic ball that screws onto the end of that screw so you don't crack your head by accident.
lol, good video. I just bought one of these for 2k. It needs cleaned up but is an active sailer.
Good stuff Juan, thanks for the tour. Looking forward to the rest.
Your electronics must have been installed, by a shade tree, general aviation, avionics technician.
Cat 22's are great boats. There are many Catalina sites on the web with good advice. Wiring on the boats started out fine but after a few owners they all end up wired by bears. Be sure and look over the keel hardware, it will avoid the embarrassment of being unable to load the boat because the keel winch has failed in some sneaky way. And check the pivot also believe me that can be a weekend ruiner if it drops the keel.
OMG. We don’t have a “big 5” here. What to do?? 🤔
Love the boat 🚤
This is great. I’m looking at a Catalina 22 and this was a very informative 20 minutes. And enjoyable start to finish right down to the Lyle Lovett cover. Big thanks!
After 27 sailboats of various sizes and builds we just went back to a Cat 22. Just the best.
I'm thinking your legs go into the niche on the quarter berth, not your head and shoulders.
How did you know I want a Catalina 22? Again, I came for the dam updates and am staying for all this other great, relevant content!
wow you never stop amazing me should have your own show so interesting keep on with the Dam cheers john
Juan, you triggered a lot of memories. 45 years ago I was shopping for a trailer sailer, and the Catalina 22 was at the top of my list. Financial limitations placed me in a South Coast 22 instead. It wasn't a bad boat, but I really would have preferred the Catalina.
Nice video. Many people sail the Catalina 22 in SF Bay. I can't resist though. Sailboats don't "tip," they "heal" or "heal over."
heel?
You're right. I was mixing medical terms with nautical ones. Incidentally Royce's "Sailing Illustrated" taught me a lot when I started sailing years ago.
Broach and capsize as well
Like our Santana 22, but a convertible. : ) Enjoy!!
I'm a sailing boat nerd. You are just as nerdy, and would be good to sail with.
I wanted to tell you thankyou very much for giving a concise lesson on this boat, we are thinking of buying a 20 foot boat in the near distant future.
I loved my cat 22 rebuild it 100% had about $16.000 when I was done . Best sail boat easy and fast .
Juan,
As a retired pilot, sailor and motorcyclist I enjoyed your quality and well informed videos. Many trips from my Midwest base into the Bay Area, SoCal and Central Valley have given me an interest in keeping up on local news.
Keep up the good work! ps: expect several RVs in your future, good finger crunchers too.
I learned to sail @ the BITTEREND Resort in NORTH END of VIRGIN GORDA BVI, Nick Trotters Sailing school Sailing 101, we used Rhodes 19 ft, named after cocktails, nice boat, NO engine, then you could stay on a CAL 27, also sail it. There were some 12 ft Boston Whalers, all you need /day was insurance.
yep, n rv's are even worst! boating is a hobby on maintaining the boat as well as sailing the boat...
Hope you really enjoy sailing with your family - it looks perfect. Love that Lyle L. song, BTW!! Thanks for the sharing it with us.
I'm about to move back home, buy a small boat under 20k and live on that bad boy.
this videos funny , ilive on my boat and this catalina is so basic
Makes me have few misgivings about the 1986 Catalina 27 i'm about to assume ownership of. Missing the kind of stuff you just buy and carry aboard for the most part. Electronics and cook stove and little woodstove. All the rigging and sails look good. Recently gone thru 10hp. 2 stroke Merc. with broken mounting clamp.$2,500.
What’s the current status of your boat? Taking it out this summer?