Across Islands and Oceans was the first ebook that I read when I got my first sailboat, a decrepit 1985 Catalina 25'. The price was right at $10.00 for the title transfer though. It seemed only fitting a free boat and a free ebook download, but it was the last of the free items coming into sailboat ownership. I looked for a Triton, but alas there were none to be had. Later, I purhased a Watkins 29' Seawolf and spent many years aboard. Glad to see that you're still messing about James. Thanks for the inspiration. I wouldn't be afraid to take that C22 to the Bahamas in good weather, not my first choice but they are pretty good boats. I'm refitting a 76' Balboa 26' now, getting ready for the Great Loop next season, with any luck. Cheers and Fairwinds everyone!
As soon as this popped up I couldn't dig in fast enough! I admit it, just In awe of his ideas, attention to details and execution. And on a C-22! I hope there will be shake down video including new head sail. Great project. Thx!
Some really good ideas for this vessel. I've had one for several years, and it's a great lake boat for the area I live in (kuntucky). I keep my hunter legend 295 at my house in Cocoa Beach, FL. The c-22 has been a great little boat and I love it.
This was inspiring! Some excellent and practical ideas here. I'm thinking about getting a Catalina 22 (I have a bigger boat currently that's more than I can handle in terms of fixing it up). This was outstanding!
just watched a guy cross over on a 16' homemade skiff and made it no problem. this should make it as well. just keep an eye on the weather window and you'll be good.
Awesome boat! Just a heads up I have now had 3 of the pro sport battery chargers go bad in 2yrs. You might want to throw another battery charger on the boat as a backup.
Center chain plate connections for the upper shrouds should be turned 90 degrees. This allows the shroud connection to pivot. Currently they are going to put a lot of side load on that connection and it will fatigue faster.
@@SuperBullyone I wasn't invited to this discussion but I can see what he's saying & it does make some sense. The video shows the upper shroud chain plate deck connections oriented fore to aft. (the original ones in the middle that were not replaced) If the were oriented across the beam/port to starboard they would most likely not incur as much stress. Though, if those are the original ones, you would think Catalina knew what they were doing with their design & installation. At any rate, she's a nicely outfitted 22. Not sure what I think about the winches & cam line locks on the pop top. Don't think I would have installed them there. Probably would have installed them alongside the cock pit.
I have a Catalina 22, what I did for my "guest" was simple. There's so many hatchboards, so fill in the cabin walkway gap, joining port and starboard berths into one, and cover with the many cushions. Top off with thick sleeping bags to smooth it out. The bed is then the full width of the cabin. Every boat is trade offs. But I like to trailer, not be bound to a slip, and expensive haul out fees, etc. I saw a video, nice cockpit version, same idea. They said it was their favorite place to sleep. I also tent my cockpit overnights, with simple canvas, for showering privacy, and it really adds to the space. (And the diffused light is wonderful) I sailed with a guy who's been around our marina since the 70s, and he said those days, no sailors had a big boat, or even thought of it. There was a big telephone pole, set up in the parking lot, which they all used to step their own masts. I looked at bigger (and cheaper) boats before I bought mine, and am so glad I took advice not to buy too big. Works for me : )
@@stevepeterson5943 thank you for sharing, I believe I did see the video with the bunk as you described. A great solution! Yes, bigger is not always better, it's more maintenance and expenses. But for those who use it as a summerhouse on the water square feet is of the essence 🙂
Wow, that is some crazy well thought out upgrades for a catalina 22! I own one and i think this is fantastic, but at the same time they could have just purchased a 30 foot boat for the same amount of money and gone out to the bahamas.
@@SuperBullyone yeah I understand but you can pickup a 30 footer for like 15k, sail to the Bahamas have a great time and the sell it once you get back for even money. Then keep the c22 and race beer cans.
Yes and then for the next 5 or 10 years you would pay $4,000 or more a year in slip rent. I bought a 32 foot north sea boat, paid 25K for the boat, and 50K on slip rent and renovations for 12 years. I could have bought a house.
@@SuperBullyone Yes, you could in some areas. I sold my Tartan 37 when I realized that I was spending more owning the boat than I spent on my house, mortgage, insurance and taxes included!! Now when I was a full time live aboard cruiser, I could easily justify the cost of my well equipped, 46’ cruising sailboat as it was not just a toy, but my home, business, hobby and lifestyle enabling me to go nearly anywhere in the world!! But when a cruising boat becomes just an expensive toy, sorry, time to go.
The 12v clip on fan is good but have you thought about usb 5V 8 inch or 6 inch fans that can be powered with usb power banks. I have used solar for many years to supplement my house electric & living in FL during hurricane season usb power banks up to 30,000 mAh will power a usb 5v 8 inch ventilation fan for overnite air movement & will last for several nights before needing daytime recharging. These usb power banks are relatively cheap compared to "solar" charger units. Years ago when boondock camping I bought a Dometic 3 way compact frig that can run a long time on a 20 Lb propane tank. The new compact compressor frig's running on 12V are great if one has the power supply.
You did a wonderful job on these modifications, here is hoping the owner was able to use them as he hoped and had a safe trip, and is already planning his next one. Fair winds.
I sailed one of these from fukuoka Japan to Busan Korea. I hit some big choppy waves along the way. The waves would wash over the foredeck and get under the pop top right at the forward corners of the pop top. So much water would pour in. That pop top really needs some reinforcement.
That looks incredible. The only thing i don't like is the which on the pop top. The boat also needs a proper anchor unless its going to tie up in a marina every night.
@@SuperBullyone yes, those were described as halyard winches on the pop top. I have this model of boat and I wouldn't trust the pop top in how it's attached to the cabin to support that potential stress.
Though I strongly prefer my Precision 23 to the Catalina 22, I've always admired the asthetic of the C22's spoon bow. Nice classic look. I put the very same access hole in the aft bulkhead of my P23 because the existing one was too small for my fat hands and arms to get into and access the bottom gudgeon that was loose when I bought the boat.
Hi J Huberty, just bought a 96 Precision 23 and love it, could be nice to exchange with you if you made some improvement, P23 owner forum is quite dead :/
@@amcarru Sure. My one improvement so far is a mast raising gin pole. Uses a brake winch. I raise and lower mast, launch and retrieve all alone. Also just bought a Simrad TP10 tiller pilot I will be fitting come Spring, and a 100 watt solar panel and charger controller to keep the battery topped off.
Very well done. The electrical installation is awesome. Definitely a good Catalina 22 with the right modifications to reach the Bahamas in fair weather. Given the size of the boat, safety was a priority.
@@SuperBullyone Just because it was done that way doesn’t mean that you have to redo it that way. The bilge is the worst place for wiring. Well, on deck would be worse. So the bilge is the second worst.
What an awesome job! I wish Catalina never went to the Capri, there is now no small, light-weight swing keel boat with any real accomodations. They’ve written off the entire compact-cruiser market altogether, this is the perfect little island hopper! I would prefer the C-25 but this is a dang fine option.
If your going to modify a sailboat you sure can find a lot of Catalinas around. The C-22 sport is supposed to be the new Catalina 22 sport in production right now.... But is it really the capri 22? We basically have three Catalina 22s the 1970s year models the 1986 and up years and then back to the 1970s model with a few small things changed. All of them years are popular. We have spent a lot of long weekends and a few weeks of vacation on our C-22 I would not call it a sailboat built to cruise but it fits our budget. We get to camp on the water. If we are careful about the weather go about anyplace on a weekend. Who wants to sail in the southern ocean with cold confused seas? I always say I am a Jimmy Buffett fan not an Ernest Shackleton man. The best part about it is sitting at home it has no marina or dock fee . It is in a convenient location to work on. Kind Regards
That has to be the best rigged Catalina 22 in the history of C22's. Thanks for showing all the upgrades in detail, some excellent ideas. BEAUTIFUL electrical system upgrades. Sailing across the Gulfstream to Bahamas is not a monumntal feat, but you are definitely offshore... no C22 will ever be more safe than this one. I wonder if the 220AH battery bank will be kept charged with the single solar panel?.. I guess that depends on load usage. The owner must have money, having just invested $30-$40k in high quality upgrades... why not a bigger and more seaworthy boat like Island Packet 27?
There are two 50w solar panels on the arch, which is enough for the 200 AH bank. The battery bank was sized large enough for his expected electrical usage during several days of clouds and rain with little solar input and based on experience living aboard my own boat. Why not a bigger boat of different design. Everyone is going to prefer one over another but the owner tells me he wanted to go with the boat he has and didn't want to deal with starting over with a bigger heavier boat and the issues that come with that.
Anyone know the manufacturer of the swing bracket at 13:34? Looks like an excellent mounting solution for a chart plotter and much better looking than the RAM mount alternatives I have seen. TIA
@@SuperBullyone Hmmm. Thank you. I see you used the passed tense, so I guess I will have to try to find one on eBay... Thank you for taking the time to respond.
1. That is the kind of work I would like to do on my boat. Fantastic. I do understand why the owner might want to do that, there is great satisfaction in sailing a well prepared small boat. However... 2. I agree with people who would have preferred a different boat for the proposed trip. The C22 is sort of tender, and I have seen them get exciting on flat lakes in just a moderate breeze. A potential challenge for the skipper on this trip. 3. I do have a question about the modifications of the forward area. It seems that although you put a water-tight storage space in the bow area, you have created a large space that could fill with water in the event of a hull failure. Would it have been better to leave the molded structure in place, seal those spaces with a bulkhead, and maybe fill the voids with foam??
Yes leaving the pan liner in the v-berth and filling voids with foam is a good option. But as I mentioned in the video, someone had already cut out the bottom before the boat came to us. We were at least able to maximize storage this way.
I was daysailing a Catalina 22 on Lake Ontario this past summer. Had some terrific windy days sailing her. But to take this boat across the Gulf Stream, albeit upgraded for that type of sailing, I can't imagine. Thanks for the video. Lots of good things to take away from it.
@@SuperBullyone The only time I sailed a swing keel Catalina 22 was a long time ago in the Florida Keys. That was also a windy day th-cam.com/video/JymoQcdiDS8/w-d-xo.html I like small boat sailing. I was a dinghy sailor first. But having sailed in the Caribbean, my preference would be at least a coastal cruiser for a Caribbean jaunt.
Has anyone done an ocean crossing in a C22? I don't see why it couldn't be done with a few mods. The East to West crossing from Africa to Caribbean should be easy enough. North Atlantic US to UK could be kinda tough.
I don't see why the trade winds route from southern Europe via Canaries or Africa couldn't be done since it's been done many times with lesser boats. You'd want a good long weather window at the start in southern Europe. As you point out, the W-E high latitude route is risky for all small boats. I've crossed in both directions several times on boats as small as 28' and wouldn't hesitate to do it E-W on this Cat 22. I'm not familiar with centerboard models though and their lesser stability and unknown strength of the board and trunk would give me pause.
I am not wanting to negative but I feel that all should be informed that the Rudder Craft Kickup rudder on this boat has been installed incorrectly. The pintles on the rudder need to resting directly on the transom gudgeons so that it is metal on metal. The plastic spacer goes underneath the gudgeons not between the pintle and gudgeon. This incorrect installation will add a leveraging stress on the pintles that may lead to failure. Also, dont know why the hole was drilled in the rudder? The gas strut on the rudder is designed to hold the blade down but still allow it to kickback if an obstacle is hit. This rudder does not need a shear pin. By adding the shear pin one has reduced the rudders ability to kickup and may cause damage to the rudder during an impact.
The steersman seems (from videos) to work, but commercially it's gone I think. The website's down and I've not seen found from the past few years about it. Perhaps because it offers no advantage over a well set up conventional sheet-to-tiller arrangement. There's a lot of fine, easy adjustment possible with a few blocks, clutches, and eyes, it's not necessary or economical to involve rods, rails, and various other rigid metal structures.
I didn't get that far when working on this boat and am not currently in touch with the owner. But as a general rule I try to select a light air headsail about 20-25% more sail area than the boat's genoa to be worthwhile.
@@atomvoyager, it's a shame you're in Georgia or I'd be a customer. I come back to this video often for inspiration. Have you ever worked on and done similar work on a Catalina 25?
What worries me more than any other design feature a Catalina has is the cockpit lockers have no bottoms and open up to the bilge. If the hatches fail and the lids open up to the sea as in a knock down, even though the companion way is secured, the sea will flow into the very bottom of the entire boat.
That's true on most boats. When possible I like to add a sturdy latch and rubber gasket to the cockpit locker lids and seal each locker from the bilge with watertight bulkheads and drain valves.
I haven't heard back from the owner but will post an update here if I do. No reason why a Bahamas cruise can't be done successfully in this size boat provided you have reliable equipment and plan around good weather windows.
wow, wow, wow....that guy spent 3x more than the boat is worth....GREAT JOB. Only thing i saw was when you had to cut holes....you should have put some type of protected coating for the wires and hose, so the rubbing will not cut the wires/hoses
If you want a small boat that's easy to trailer. For coastal fair weather cruising. It doesn't get much better than this. Not to mention upkeep on such a small boat is probably really low. I bet this boat is also a lot of fun to sail.
I don't recall if the owner had a lightning ground already installed or planned to add one later but I wasn't asked to install one. On other boats I have used a 1/4" x 4" x 20" copper ground plate with cables connecting its bronze mounting bolts inside to upper shroud chain plates and base of mast if keel-stepped. Or a simple version could be something like a sheathed heavy copper cable such as battery jumper cable with it temporarily clipped on to an upper shroud with other end dangling in the water when needed.
@@atomvoyager one nicely sealed copper bolt going from inside to outside, just below the water line, to the ground on the fuse box should be enough to ground a small boat?
That may help but the experts I've consulted recommend a copper plate of any thickness with a perimeter of 48" which comes out to a 4x20" plate. That's perhaps extravagant for a 22' boat though. There seems to be some witchcraft in lightning protection so it's hard to know what's best. Also, a #6 awg wire from upper shrouds and/or mast base to the copper or bronze thru-hull ground below waterline is recommended. Add a wire to the fuse box as you say, is secondary.
I have a video on the Lagun table linked below with supplier link in the description. They no longer offer the table top so you need to source one elsewhere by looking around online or make your own or recycle another table top to install on the Lagun bracket: th-cam.com/video/9wTvr4WrCD4/w-d-xo.html
I'd like to share some feedback but I have not heard from the owner. Having worked on and then sailed other small boats I'm sure most things worked but there are always several things each person would do differently according to their priorities and preferences. Sometimes after cruising on a small boat an owner decides he needs something bigger that has more comforts and safety and can go to windward in rougher conditions.
The owner had it custom fabricated at a metal fab shop somewhere and gave it to me to install. If you want to ask him about the source you can email me at atomvoyages.com and I'll forward it to him. Or make your own sketch and find a local fabricating shop that welds marine grade aluminum.
I didn't keep track of the cost of materials the owner purchased himself and don't want to discuss the owners expenses but we had about 140 hours of labor into the work.
Yowza! I think I am going to need a lot of labels. I take it you have doubts whether the owner installed chain plate frame connector will actually work as intended. How long did it take to remake this boat? The owner must really love her. Well done. Wish I could have done something similar to my boat.
We've got about 140 hours of work in this. I wasn't really questioning the effectiveness of the chain plate reinforcement beam just that I don't have experience with sailing the boat to know if it was needed.
Many really good ideas that appear to be well executed. But you have to wonder why the owner didn't just buy a boat that was made to cross the Gulf Stream? I'm wonder if your modifications to a slighter bigger, blue-water boat would probably end up costing about the same.
Good point. Some people just want the most minimal boat they can get away with for a variety of reasons. It's true that the costs for these types of upgrades are only slightly less than for a boat that's a bit larger and many of us would choose to have a larger boat for cruising. But some folks value more the benefits of an ultra-small trailer-sailer. They only live aboard for up to a few weeks at a time, maybe trailer to northern cruising grounds in summer and south for winter. A small boat doesn't require a big tow vehicle or travel lift and is easy to set up and step the mast and parked in a driveway at home when not used rather than an expensive marina slip or boatyard.
I was sitting here thinking the exact same thing. If ya like a trailer sailor, then even something a little larger. But it just goes to show that everyone's right boat is very personal and not for everyone else. This looks to be the nicest Catalina 22 I've ever seen.
My Tanzer 22 approaches the level of what is done in this boat, and improvements are always under way. As to why this size and not a G26, well I can tow with a 5000 pound rated vehicle that isn't a truck. Get to work on it at home, while sailing out of Georgian Bay, but could one day do the Bahamas or Pacific coast. I have a plastic portal like the one on the cockpit floor, but have not installed it, being skeptical of plastic in such a critical location. There are aluminum equivalents but $$$. I am surprised that there is not a removable solent stay. My Tanzer tensions one with a 6:1 purchase Garhauer tackle, but my smaller boat uses a Highfield lever.
Between 604 to 635 pounds will lower the waterline by 1 inch. The more difficult problem in a small boat is getting it loaded correctly so there is not a tendency to yaw, pitch, roll, sway, and heave.
Could you link us to the one way valves in the Cockpit? I have been unable to find them and will be upgrading my boat (C-22) and really want one ways as I live on the west coast and we blue water our little boats often here.
The owner gave me those scupper valves to install but I wouldn't do it that way again because the joker valves are too restrictive of water flow. ON other boats I install these type valves on the outside and finish off the inside with a glued in mushroom thru-hull with the outside end cut flush: www.amazon.com/Seachoice-Self-Bailing-Cockpit-Mounted-Scupper/dp/B0006ZCFKW/ref=asc_df_B0006ZCFKW
Wow !!! That's a lot going on in that C22, no wonder the tour took so long. Lol. Was anyone else expecting to see a freshwater marine electric head instead of a bucket?
Do you think this boat can be upgraded to electric motor? Are you saying the wing keel will be inadequate for off shore or rough seas? I found this this walkaround helpfull, I am currently contemplating buying a Cat 22 for sailing around NYC harbor and Long Island NY. The asking price is $35,000 is that a good price. Found your video doing research for Catalina 22!
Yes an electric outboard would be fine on this boat if you can accept the limited motoring range and a bit less thrust than the average owner demands. I'd go with the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 EVO long shaft linked below. That model has regeneration to recharge your battery when under sail although you won't get much output under 5 knots. For the keel type, I said the wing keel on this boat is less common but is better for stability offshore than a swing keel. I don't know why that boat is priced that high but I'm assuming it's a new boat. If you look at other listings you'll see used C22s cost much less. I haven't looked into the values though: www.epropulsion.com/spirit-evo/
@@atomvoyager I am flabbergasted that you replied so very promptly and in such detail! Thanks, thanks, your videos and responses to queries are a service to the fledgling sailors!
I own this same boat… 1990 Catalina 22 Wing Sail number 15094. I’ll bet this guy rolled off the line about the same time as mine. Can you give any advice on having a trailer fitted for it? I have seen a lot of bunk trailers available for the swing keel, but not many used trailers for the wing. Would it be difficult to modify a trailer to make it work for the wing?
Any used trailer you find that is not specifically for a boat and keel of this dimensions will be somewhat difficult and costly to modify to fit your boat. But any trailer designed for keel boats should be easier to modify than one with bunk rollers for a shoal draft centerboard. You might ask for ideas on a Catalina or trailer-sailer facebook group. Unless you get lucky and find a cheap used trailer designed for your model boat then you may be better off buying a new one. You can ask Sail trailers in Columbus, GA about that if they are in your region. I have bought several custom trailers from them over the years.
That was an old stock item but may not be available now and I'm not sure where to source one like it. I normally use the RAM-109V Marine Single Swing Arm Mount. The RAM is overbuilt and this one was handy because it's less bulky and lighter. Here's a description of a homebuilt one that's bulky but cheap: www.catalina22experiment.com/home/projects/gps
Hi James, Catalina did indeed make a 22' with a swing keel...It was my first boat. About 2 weeks after taking ownership of it, the keel broke off(my introduction into sailing). I vowed never to buy anything other than a fixed keel again. I was kind of shocked that someone was going to take a Catalina 22 on a blue water sail like that. I've learn a lot from your videos and thank you for that. I have question: The bowsprit that you mounted on the Cat 22, is it a fairly easy mount? There was a Bristol 24 that I was looking at. I know they are a bit under powered and slow and thought: what if a bowsprit was added? Also putting a 3' taller mast on it. Do agree with either one of these applications? Thanks James, I hope you are doing well. James Zi
Adding 1-2' to mast height should not be a major issue but over that the trade-offs of extra windage and weight aloft when reefed and sail balance issues start to creep in. Check to see if other B24 owners have discussed this mod somewhere. It's a big expense to replace mast, rigging and sails so usually not practical anyway compared to buying a different boat that you find suitable as is. Removable or retractable bowsprits attach in various ways. You need to look at the stemhead to come up with a plan, but yes it's doable on most boats. you can email me through atomvoyages.com if you want to discuss it further. The email is at the bottom of the homepage.
We have an 86 swing keel and so far have been good with it. But, when we first bought it back around 2005, the cable was pretty shredded. So, I had to replace it immediately and I've always checked it for fraying. One thing that I found is that if you keep the boat in the water with the keel up or partially up, the turning ball will basically saw through the cable within a year. I also check the keel bolts yearly. That being, I'd be reluctant to have a swing keel on choppy seas. We're lake sailors here and the swing keel has gotten us off of more than a few groundings.
I sailed a swing keel Catalina 22 the weekend before last for the first time. I seriously disliked it. It was a slow boat, under power as well as sail, had a tendency of lee helm, and the hank on jib and winches with cleats were just a hassle… I’d never invest in one, even as a beginner boat
@@Monkeywrenchmotorcycles personal choices. The helm can become unbalanced depending upon the relationship between main and foresail. Lots of factors with that of course. There are faster boats of course. The swing keel can be an issue if not well-maintained but is great for our lake because of the unexpected shallow spots. Interestingly, Catalina uses the exact same keel setup for their 25 model but with an even heavier keel.
The swing keel is a must for rivers and areas like the Bahamas where the coral grows, and causes chart data to be inaccurate. If you follow the channels, you should be ok with a fun keel.
People have crossed the ocean in canoes. I personally wouldn't do it. But this is a perfect little boat for coastal cruising, and smaller passages given a good whether window.
I couldn't say other than to first look at the price of comparable boats on the market, then add to it a value that you feel the modifications and equipment this boat has are worth to you compared to other boats offered.
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Across Islands and Oceans was the first ebook that I read when I got my first sailboat, a decrepit 1985 Catalina 25'. The price was right at $10.00 for the title transfer though. It seemed only fitting a free boat and a free ebook download, but it was the last of the free items coming into sailboat ownership. I looked for a Triton, but alas there were none to be had. Later, I purhased a Watkins 29' Seawolf and spent many years aboard. Glad to see that you're still messing about James. Thanks for the inspiration. I wouldn't be afraid to take that C22 to the Bahamas in good weather, not my first choice but they are pretty good boats. I'm refitting a 76' Balboa 26' now, getting ready for the Great Loop next season, with any luck. Cheers and Fairwinds everyone!
It is insane how much I have learned from this video. I have a Catalina 25 project boat and your videos are helping me get this on the water. Thanks!!
As soon as this popped up I couldn't dig in fast enough! I admit it, just In awe of his ideas, attention to details and execution. And on a C-22! I hope there will be shake down video including new head sail. Great project. Thx!
That was about as “top notch” as it gets. I wonder how the voyage/adventure went?
Great work again. I know of two Catalina 22 that made it the Bahamas and back.
The most outfitted Catalina 22 ever! Nice balance of working with a small coastal cruiser to give her extra security to venture father.
Some really good ideas for this vessel. I've had one for several years, and it's a great lake boat for the area I live in (kuntucky). I keep my hunter legend 295 at my house in Cocoa Beach, FL. The c-22 has been a great little boat and I love it.
Great functionality added. Work is top notch and it shows, everything is nicely hidden and thought out.
I just found your channel. I’m going to buy a C22 soon and this is like the Rolls Royse of Catalina 22’s. Amazing 🤩
Lots or really sensible mods and good looking craftsmanship. Very nice Catalina!
This was great for me as I now own a1990 Catalina 22 wing level.
This was inspiring! Some excellent and practical ideas here. I'm thinking about getting a Catalina 22 (I have a bigger boat currently that's more than I can handle in terms of fixing it up). This was outstanding!
This gives me some great ideas for my Hunter 23.5. The quality work is inspiring. Thanks for sharing!
Great set of mods., especially accessing all the storage underneath the cockpit, and moving the batteries lower and forward.
just watched a guy cross over on a 16' homemade skiff and made it no problem. this should make it as well. just keep an eye on the weather window and you'll be good.
Awesome boat! Just a heads up I have now had 3 of the pro sport battery chargers go bad in 2yrs. You might want to throw another battery charger on the boat as a backup.
Center chain plate connections for the upper shrouds should be turned 90 degrees. This allows the shroud connection to pivot. Currently they are going to put a lot of side load on that connection and it will fatigue faster.
@@SuperBullyone I wasn't invited to this discussion but I can see what he's saying & it does make some sense. The video shows the upper shroud chain plate deck connections oriented fore to aft. (the original ones in the middle that were not replaced) If the were oriented across the beam/port to starboard they would most likely not incur as much stress. Though, if those are the original ones, you would think Catalina knew what they were doing with their design & installation.
At any rate, she's a nicely outfitted 22. Not sure what I think about the winches & cam line locks on the pop top. Don't think I would have installed them there. Probably would have installed them alongside the cock pit.
Very nice work. Love the attention to detail.
Wow, you do excellent work! That is the best setup on a 22 I have ever seen. Outstanding job sir!
I love this boat! I wish it had a bunk big enough for two. great craftmanship on all the upgrades!!
it does have a full size berth, if you put the table down.
@@SuperBullyone Yes for one person, but it's nowhere near a double :)
I have a Catalina 22, what I did for my "guest" was simple. There's so many hatchboards, so fill in the cabin walkway gap, joining port and starboard berths into one, and cover with the many cushions. Top off with thick sleeping bags to smooth it out. The bed is then the full width of the cabin.
Every boat is trade offs. But I like to trailer, not be bound to a slip, and expensive haul out fees, etc.
I saw a video, nice cockpit version, same idea. They said it was their favorite place to sleep. I also tent my cockpit overnights, with simple canvas, for showering privacy, and it really adds to the space. (And the diffused light is wonderful)
I sailed with a guy who's been around our marina since the 70s, and he said those days, no sailors had a big boat, or even thought of it. There was a big telephone pole, set up in the parking lot, which they all used to step their own masts. I looked at bigger (and cheaper) boats before I bought mine, and am so glad I took advice not to buy too big. Works for me : )
@@stevepeterson5943 thank you for sharing, I believe I did see the video with the bunk as you described. A great solution!
Yes, bigger is not always better, it's more maintenance and expenses. But for those who use it as a summerhouse on the water square feet is of the essence 🙂
Wow, that is some crazy well thought out upgrades for a catalina 22! I own one and i think this is fantastic, but at the same time they could have just purchased a 30 foot boat for the same amount of money and gone out to the bahamas.
@@SuperBullyone yeah I understand but you can pickup a 30 footer for like 15k, sail to the Bahamas have a great time and the sell it once you get back for even money. Then keep the c22 and race beer cans.
Yes and then for the next 5 or 10 years you would pay $4,000 or more a year in slip rent. I bought a 32 foot north sea boat, paid 25K for the boat, and 50K on slip rent and renovations for 12 years. I could have bought a house.
@@SuperBullyone Yes, you could in some areas. I sold my Tartan 37 when I realized that I was spending more owning the boat than I spent on my house, mortgage, insurance and taxes included!! Now when I was a full time live aboard cruiser, I could easily justify the cost of my well equipped, 46’ cruising sailboat as it was not just a toy, but my home, business, hobby and lifestyle enabling me to go nearly anywhere in the world!! But when a cruising boat becomes just an expensive toy, sorry, time to go.
Amazing job very well planned and thoughtout!
Every time I get in my head some fun boat idea, Atom voyages did a video on it! Great stuff as always James.
The 12v clip on fan is good but have you thought about usb 5V 8 inch or 6 inch fans that can be powered with usb power banks. I have used solar for many years to supplement my house electric & living in FL during hurricane season usb power banks up to 30,000 mAh will power a usb 5v 8 inch ventilation fan for overnite air movement & will last for several nights before needing daytime recharging. These usb power banks are relatively cheap compared to "solar" charger units. Years ago when boondock camping I bought a Dometic 3 way compact frig that can run a long time on a 20 Lb propane tank. The new compact compressor frig's running on 12V are great if one has the power supply.
Sounds like a good idea for a small portable power supply for a 5v USB fan as well as phone and other things.
Here's a link to the portable clip-on USB fan I've been using lately and so far has been functioning good: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09PQH4VBK/
You did a wonderful job on these modifications, here is hoping the owner was able to use them as he hoped and had a safe trip, and is already planning his next one. Fair winds.
I sailed one of these from fukuoka Japan to Busan Korea. I hit some big choppy waves along the way. The waves would wash over the foredeck and get under the pop top right at the forward corners of the pop top. So much water would pour in. That pop top really needs some reinforcement.
That's good to know. Sounds like the gasket and latching could be improved.
Awesome little pocket trailer cruiser. Very practical. Wouldn't mind owning something like this. Great work!
very complete tour!!
That looks incredible. The only thing i don't like is the which on the pop top. The boat also needs a proper anchor unless its going to tie up in a marina every night.
those are extra winches on the pop top.
@@SuperBullyone yes, those were described as halyard winches on the pop top. I have this model of boat and I wouldn't trust the pop top in how it's attached to the cabin to support that potential stress.
Though I strongly prefer my Precision 23 to the Catalina 22, I've always admired the asthetic of the C22's spoon bow. Nice classic look.
I put the very same access hole in the aft bulkhead of my P23 because the existing one was too small for my fat hands and arms to get into and access the bottom gudgeon that was loose when I bought the boat.
Hi J Huberty, just bought a 96 Precision 23 and love it, could be nice to exchange with you if you made some improvement, P23 owner forum is quite dead :/
@@amcarru Sure. My one improvement so far is a mast raising gin pole. Uses a brake winch. I raise and lower mast, launch and retrieve all alone. Also just bought a Simrad TP10 tiller pilot I will be fitting come Spring, and a 100 watt solar panel and charger controller to keep the battery topped off.
Haha, brings me back to my 1971, hull #823 swing keel Cat 22... Nice mods, I'd like to see the new head sail in action.
Yeah me too! How about a drone shot of that code zero?
...looks like you got it all ready to go, nice!
Very well done. The electrical installation is awesome. Definitely a good Catalina 22 with the right modifications to reach the Bahamas in fair weather. Given the size of the boat, safety was a priority.
You consider running the wires through the bilge 'awesome '?
@@keithb6717 that is where they are run when the boat comes from the factory
@@SuperBullyone
Just because it was done that way doesn’t mean that you have to redo it that way. The bilge is the worst place for wiring. Well, on deck would be worse. So the bilge is the second worst.
Wow what an incredible job. The nicest C-22 in the world! Any idea of the cost of this work? Thanks.
We've got about 140 hours of work in this. I didn't keep track of materials cost because the owner bought many of the parts directly himself.
Haven’t heard from you in a while. Glad to see your still fixing up boats and making them do spiffy. Happy New Year
Congrats very nice and clean job have you done!!!
What an awesome job! I wish Catalina never went to the Capri, there is now no small, light-weight swing keel boat with any real accomodations. They’ve written off the entire compact-cruiser market altogether, this is the perfect little island hopper! I would prefer the C-25 but this is a dang fine option.
If your going to modify a sailboat you sure can find a lot of Catalinas around. The C-22 sport is supposed to be the new Catalina 22 sport in production right now.... But is it really the capri 22? We basically have three Catalina 22s the 1970s year models the 1986 and up years and then back to the 1970s model with a few small things changed. All of them years are popular. We have spent a lot of long weekends and a few weeks of vacation on our C-22 I would not call it a sailboat built to cruise but it fits our budget. We get to camp on the water. If we are careful about the weather go about anyplace on a weekend. Who wants to sail in the southern ocean with cold confused seas? I always say I am a Jimmy Buffett fan not an Ernest Shackleton man. The best part about it is sitting at home it has no marina or dock fee . It is in a convenient location to work on. Kind Regards
That has to be the best rigged Catalina 22 in the history of C22's. Thanks for showing all the upgrades in detail, some excellent ideas. BEAUTIFUL electrical system upgrades. Sailing across the Gulfstream to Bahamas is not a monumntal feat, but you are definitely offshore... no C22 will ever be more safe than this one. I wonder if the 220AH battery bank will be kept charged with the single solar panel?.. I guess that depends on load usage. The owner must have money, having just invested $30-$40k in high quality upgrades... why not a bigger and more seaworthy boat like Island Packet 27?
There are two 50w solar panels on the arch, which is enough for the 200 AH bank. The battery bank was sized large enough for his expected electrical usage during several days of clouds and rain with little solar input and based on experience living aboard my own boat. Why not a bigger boat of different design. Everyone is going to prefer one over another but the owner tells me he wanted to go with the boat he has and didn't want to deal with starting over with a bigger heavier boat and the issues that come with that.
@@atomvoyager Thanks Atom, all good stuff.
Anyone know the manufacturer of the swing bracket at 13:34? Looks like an excellent mounting solution for a chart plotter and much better looking than the RAM mount alternatives I have seen. TIA
West Marine sold those under their own name brand.
@@SuperBullyone Hmmm. Thank you. I see you used the passed tense, so I guess I will have to try to find one on eBay... Thank you for taking the time to respond.
@@Thuban06 I see there is a similar one now on ebay at:
www.ebay.com/itm/Swing-out-intrument-bracket-for-boat-instrument-computer-etc/293936736413?
Wow,Top Notch improvement s to Cat 22,Shows the Potential to this boat.
More accurately, it shows the stupidity of some owners.
Why? They really brought the quality up.
@@cwalke32477 no matter what you do, at the end of the day it's, unfortunately, still a c22.
Wow what an amazing setup, really makes the most of the C-22
1. That is the kind of work I would like to do on my boat. Fantastic. I do understand why the owner might want to do that, there is great satisfaction in sailing a well prepared small boat. However...
2. I agree with people who would have preferred a different boat for the proposed trip. The C22 is sort of tender, and I have seen them get exciting on flat lakes in just a moderate breeze. A potential challenge for the skipper on this trip.
3. I do have a question about the modifications of the forward area.
It seems that although you put a water-tight storage space in the bow area, you have created a large space that could fill with water in the event of a hull failure. Would it have been better to leave the molded structure in place, seal those spaces with a bulkhead, and maybe fill the voids with foam??
Yes leaving the pan liner in the v-berth and filling voids with foam is a good option. But as I mentioned in the video, someone had already cut out the bottom before the boat came to us. We were at least able to maximize storage this way.
Obrigado James and Mrs. May. Happy new year.
Outstanding job!
I was daysailing a Catalina 22 on Lake Ontario this past summer. Had some terrific windy days sailing her. But to take this boat across the Gulf Stream, albeit upgraded for that type of sailing, I can't imagine. Thanks for the video. Lots of good things to take away from it.
@@SuperBullyone It was a fixed keel Catalina 22. Here's a video of it under windy conditions th-cam.com/video/XgL3UEDlZGY/w-d-xo.html
@@SuperBullyone The only time I sailed a swing keel Catalina 22 was a long time ago in the Florida Keys. That was also a windy day th-cam.com/video/JymoQcdiDS8/w-d-xo.html I like small boat sailing. I was a dinghy sailor first. But having sailed in the Caribbean, my preference would be at least a coastal cruiser for a Caribbean jaunt.
Has anyone done an ocean crossing in a C22? I don't see why it couldn't be done with a few mods. The East to West crossing from Africa to Caribbean should be easy enough. North Atlantic US to UK could be kinda tough.
I don't see why the trade winds route from southern Europe via Canaries or Africa couldn't be done since it's been done many times with lesser boats. You'd want a good long weather window at the start in southern Europe. As you point out, the W-E high latitude route is risky for all small boats. I've crossed in both directions several times on boats as small as 28' and wouldn't hesitate to do it E-W on this Cat 22. I'm not familiar with centerboard models though and their lesser stability and unknown strength of the board and trunk would give me pause.
A very thoughtful conversion, practical and it much improves the seaworthiness! Is there provision for a small tender?
An inflatable kayak would be the most practical tender for a small boat although it does have its own limitations.
This is excellent, thank you. Proud to “like”
Anyone know where I can get a recessed cubby like the one seen in the cockpit c. 8:50?
I’ve been looking for these too!
I've seen those for sale, but can't remember where! catalina direct maybe?
I am so jealous 😭😭😭. Beautiful work
I am not wanting to negative but I feel that all should be informed that the Rudder Craft Kickup rudder on this boat has been installed incorrectly. The pintles on the rudder need to resting directly on the transom gudgeons so that it is metal on metal. The plastic spacer goes underneath the gudgeons not between the pintle and gudgeon. This incorrect installation will add a leveraging stress on the pintles that may lead to failure. Also, dont know why the hole was drilled in the rudder? The gas strut on the rudder is designed to hold the blade down but still allow it to kickback if an obstacle is hit. This rudder does not need a shear pin. By adding the shear pin one has reduced the rudders ability to kickup and may cause damage to the rudder during an impact.
good to know. thank you for sharing
The steersman seems (from videos) to work, but commercially it's gone I think. The website's down and I've not seen found from the past few years about it.
Perhaps because it offers no advantage over a well set up conventional sheet-to-tiller arrangement. There's a lot of fine, easy adjustment possible with a few blocks, clutches, and eyes, it's not necessary or economical to involve rods, rails, and various other rigid metal structures.
Fantastic video. Some of the best of TH-cam.
Great mods. Thanks for all the ideas. Would love to see the asymmetrical chute/genaker in action. Any idea what size was to be used?
I didn't get that far when working on this boat and am not currently in touch with the owner. But as a general rule I try to select a light air headsail about 20-25% more sail area than the boat's genoa to be worthwhile.
Wow! Excellent work. Inspiring.
Thinking of buying a small Grampian 26 for the great loop. This vid is very helpful. Thank you.
Sailboats are terrible LOOP boats.
It’s a motor boat route..
Fantastic job you have done on her. Cudo's.
Your doing the things to boats that I want done to my Ranger 33.
Great video. Amazing work. Where did you get the sprit pole assembly at 0:26?
It was custom fabricated at a local metal fab shop according to the owners specs.
@@atomvoyager, it's a shame you're in Georgia or I'd be a customer. I come back to this video often for inspiration.
Have you ever worked on and done similar work on a Catalina 25?
@@wolfpacksix I haven't had the opportunity yet.
Just amazing. You're an incredible craftsman.
boat looks in great shape congrats!
That is really nice! Well done!
What worries me more than any other design feature a Catalina has is the cockpit lockers have no bottoms and open up to the bilge. If the hatches fail and the lids open up to the sea as in a knock down, even though the companion way is secured, the sea will flow into the very bottom of the entire boat.
That's true on most boats. When possible I like to add a sturdy latch and rubber gasket to the cockpit locker lids and seal each locker from the bilge with watertight bulkheads and drain valves.
Any idea if the owners took it to the Bahamas? Looking at doing something similar and wanted to know thier experience
I haven't heard back from the owner but will post an update here if I do. No reason why a Bahamas cruise can't be done successfully in this size boat provided you have reliable equipment and plan around good weather windows.
Very nice, you do great work! How much was the total cost in parts?
I didn't keep track of that because I bought some parts and the owner bought some.
wow, wow, wow....that guy spent 3x more than the boat is worth....GREAT JOB. Only thing i saw was when you had to cut holes....you should have put some type of protected coating for the wires and hose, so the rubbing will not cut the wires/hoses
It's definitely decked out with options and custom items. Very nice setup
A boat is a waste of money, not an investment.
If you want a small boat that's easy to trailer. For coastal fair weather cruising. It doesn't get much better than this. Not to mention upkeep on such a small boat is probably really low. I bet this boat is also a lot of fun to sail.
wouldn't that wing keel be better in rough seas giving better stability?
I agree that a wing keel can be an advantage over a centerboard for offshore sailing.
Nice setup!!
Beautiful Job! Happy new year from San Diego!
Very good set up
Coconut shavings are good for the composter
Its not a composter. Its a bucket.
Nice work. Is there a wire or metal going into the water to ground the boat from a lightning strike?
I don't recall if the owner had a lightning ground already installed or planned to add one later but I wasn't asked to install one. On other boats I have used a 1/4" x 4" x 20" copper ground plate with cables connecting its bronze mounting bolts inside to upper shroud chain plates and base of mast if keel-stepped. Or a simple version could be something like a sheathed heavy copper cable such as battery jumper cable with it temporarily clipped on to an upper shroud with other end dangling in the water when needed.
@@atomvoyager one nicely sealed copper bolt going from inside to outside, just below the water line, to the ground on the fuse box should be enough to ground a small boat?
That may help but the experts I've consulted recommend a copper plate of any thickness with a perimeter of 48" which comes out to a 4x20" plate. That's perhaps extravagant for a 22' boat though. There seems to be some witchcraft in lightning protection so it's hard to know what's best. Also, a #6 awg wire from upper shrouds and/or mast base to the copper or bronze thru-hull ground below waterline is recommended. Add a wire to the fuse box as you say, is secondary.
You do Great work!! Where are you located, contact info?
Thanks. We're in Brunswick, GA and can be reached through atomvoyages.com
Could you spell the name of the table and bracket or add a link?
I have a video on the Lagun table linked below with supplier link in the description. They no longer offer the table top so you need to source one elsewhere by looking around online or make your own or recycle another table top to install on the Lagun bracket: th-cam.com/video/9wTvr4WrCD4/w-d-xo.html
Perfect! Found it and thank you. @@atomvoyager
Next on "Pimp my Catalina" . . .
@atomvoyager Did you ever get any feedback on Their cruise? I wonder if there is any feedback on what worked/didn't and what they would change.
I'd like to share some feedback but I have not heard from the owner. Having worked on and then sailed other small boats I'm sure most things worked but there are always several things each person would do differently according to their priorities and preferences. Sometimes after cruising on a small boat an owner decides he needs something bigger that has more comforts and safety and can go to windward in rougher conditions.
This is the best Cat-22 I have ever seen.! Good job👍
What an interesting and informative video thank you so much. Really enjoyed this 😀
Where did you source the sprit pole and plate??
The owner had it custom fabricated at a metal fab shop somewhere and gave it to me to install. If you want to ask him about the source you can email me at atomvoyages.com and I'll forward it to him. Or make your own sketch and find a local fabricating shop that welds marine grade aluminum.
What was the full cost of all this work.?
I didn't keep track of the cost of materials the owner purchased himself and don't want to discuss the owners expenses but we had about 140 hours of labor into the work.
Yowza! I think I am going to need a lot of labels. I take it you have doubts whether the owner installed chain plate frame connector will actually work as intended. How long did it take to remake this boat? The owner must really love her. Well done. Wish I could have done something similar to my boat.
We've got about 140 hours of work in this. I wasn't really questioning the effectiveness of the chain plate reinforcement beam just that I don't have experience with sailing the boat to know if it was needed.
Many really good ideas that appear to be well executed. But you have to wonder why the owner didn't just buy a boat that was made to cross the Gulf Stream? I'm wonder if your modifications to a slighter bigger, blue-water boat would probably end up costing about the same.
Good point. Some people just want the most minimal boat they can get away with for a variety of reasons. It's true that the costs for these types of upgrades are only slightly less than for a boat that's a bit larger and many of us would choose to have a larger boat for cruising. But some folks value more the benefits of an ultra-small trailer-sailer. They only live aboard for up to a few weeks at a time, maybe trailer to northern cruising grounds in summer and south for winter. A small boat doesn't require a big tow vehicle or travel lift and is easy to set up and step the mast and parked in a driveway at home when not used rather than an expensive marina slip or boatyard.
I was sitting here thinking the exact same thing. If ya like a trailer sailor, then even something a little larger. But it just goes to show that everyone's right boat is very personal and not for everyone else. This looks to be the nicest Catalina 22 I've ever seen.
My Tanzer 22 approaches the level of what is done in this boat, and improvements are always under way. As to why this size and not a G26, well I can tow with a 5000 pound rated vehicle that isn't a truck. Get to work on it at home, while sailing out of Georgian Bay, but could one day do the Bahamas or Pacific coast.
I have a plastic portal like the one on the cockpit floor, but have not installed it, being skeptical of plastic in such a critical location. There are aluminum equivalents but $$$.
I am surprised that there is not a removable solent stay. My Tanzer tensions one with a 6:1 purchase Garhauer tackle, but my smaller boat uses a Highfield lever.
That is crazy, when its all loaded and provisioned how low is it going to be in the water?
Between 604 to 635 pounds will lower the waterline by 1 inch. The more difficult problem in a small boat is getting it loaded correctly so there is not a tendency to yaw, pitch, roll, sway, and heave.
@@SuperBullyone IMHO, Coastal/Lakeshore boat, don't leave sight of land !!
@@AlienX69 probably right, but the most dangerous place is within sight of land.
Could you link us to the one way valves in the Cockpit? I have been unable to find them and will be upgrading my boat (C-22) and really want one ways as I live on the west coast and we blue water our little boats often here.
The owner gave me those scupper valves to install but I wouldn't do it that way again because the joker valves are too restrictive of water flow. ON other boats I install these type valves on the outside and finish off the inside with a glued in mushroom thru-hull with the outside end cut flush: www.amazon.com/Seachoice-Self-Bailing-Cockpit-Mounted-Scupper/dp/B0006ZCFKW/ref=asc_df_B0006ZCFKW
@@atomvoyager Thank you.
Splendid! Thank you!
Wow !!! That's a lot going on in that C22, no wonder the tour took so long. Lol. Was anyone else expecting to see a freshwater marine electric head instead of a bucket?
May we know what it is worth now?
Welcome back, James. Great info. It's been too long. P.S. I never heard of a "LOOOM" inverter. :-)
Do you think this boat can be upgraded to electric motor? Are you saying the wing keel will be inadequate for off shore or rough seas? I found this this walkaround helpfull, I am currently contemplating buying a Cat 22 for sailing around NYC harbor and Long Island NY. The asking price is $35,000 is that a good price. Found your video doing research for Catalina 22!
Yes an electric outboard would be fine on this boat if you can accept the limited motoring range and a bit less thrust than the average owner demands. I'd go with the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 EVO long shaft linked below. That model has regeneration to recharge your battery when under sail although you won't get much output under 5 knots. For the keel type, I said the wing keel on this boat is less common but is better for stability offshore than a swing keel. I don't know why that boat is priced that high but I'm assuming it's a new boat. If you look at other listings you'll see used C22s cost much less. I haven't looked into the values though: www.epropulsion.com/spirit-evo/
@@atomvoyager I am flabbergasted that you replied so very promptly and in such detail! Thanks, thanks, your videos and responses to queries are a service to the fledgling sailors!
I paid $4,000 for that boat and trailer in 2005, the trailer was NEW.
@@SuperBullyone Good deal on that boat. We have an 86 "new style" C22 and have enjoyed it for the last 17 years now.
I own this same boat… 1990 Catalina 22 Wing Sail number 15094. I’ll bet this guy rolled off the line about the same time as mine.
Can you give any advice on having a trailer fitted for it? I have seen a lot of bunk trailers available for the swing keel, but not many used trailers for the wing. Would it be difficult to modify a trailer to make it work for the wing?
Any used trailer you find that is not specifically for a boat and keel of this dimensions will be somewhat difficult and costly to modify to fit your boat. But any trailer designed for keel boats should be easier to modify than one with bunk rollers for a shoal draft centerboard. You might ask for ideas on a Catalina or trailer-sailer facebook group. Unless you get lucky and find a cheap used trailer designed for your model boat then you may be better off buying a new one. You can ask Sail trailers in Columbus, GA about that if they are in your region. I have bought several custom trailers from them over the years.
great to see you back, love watching your videos. Could you tell me where did you purchase that swing out bracket for the nav?
That was an old stock item but may not be available now and I'm not sure where to source one like it. I normally use the RAM-109V Marine Single Swing Arm Mount. The RAM is overbuilt and this one was handy because it's less bulky and lighter.
Here's a description of a homebuilt one that's bulky but cheap:
www.catalina22experiment.com/home/projects/gps
@@atomvoyager I have the Ram mount now and that is an understatement that it's overbuilt
Hi James, Catalina did indeed make a 22' with a swing keel...It was my first boat. About 2 weeks after taking ownership of it, the keel broke off(my introduction into sailing). I vowed never to buy anything other than a fixed keel again. I was kind of shocked that someone was going to take a Catalina 22 on a blue water sail like that.
I've learn a lot from your videos and thank you for that. I have question: The bowsprit that you mounted on the Cat 22, is it a fairly easy mount? There was a Bristol 24 that I was looking at. I know they are a bit under powered and slow and thought: what if a bowsprit was added? Also putting a 3' taller mast on it. Do agree with either one of these applications? Thanks James, I hope you are doing well. James Zi
Adding 1-2' to mast height should not be a major issue but over that the trade-offs of extra windage and weight aloft when reefed and sail balance issues start to creep in. Check to see if other B24 owners have discussed this mod somewhere. It's a big expense to replace mast, rigging and sails so usually not practical anyway compared to buying a different boat that you find suitable as is. Removable or retractable bowsprits attach in various ways. You need to look at the stemhead to come up with a plan, but yes it's doable on most boats. you can email me through atomvoyages.com if you want to discuss it further. The email is at the bottom of the homepage.
We have an 86 swing keel and so far have been good with it. But, when we first bought it back around 2005, the cable was pretty shredded. So, I had to replace it immediately and I've always checked it for fraying. One thing that I found is that if you keep the boat in the water with the keel up or partially up, the turning ball will basically saw through the cable within a year. I also check the keel bolts yearly. That being, I'd be reluctant to have a swing keel on choppy seas. We're lake sailors here and the swing keel has gotten us off of more than a few groundings.
I sailed a swing keel Catalina 22 the weekend before last for the first time. I seriously disliked it. It was a slow boat, under power as well as sail, had a tendency of lee helm, and the hank on jib and winches with cleats were just a hassle… I’d never invest in one, even as a beginner boat
@@Monkeywrenchmotorcycles personal choices. The helm can become unbalanced depending upon the relationship between main and foresail. Lots of factors with that of course. There are faster boats of course. The swing keel can be an issue if not well-maintained but is great for our lake because of the unexpected shallow spots. Interestingly, Catalina uses the exact same keel setup for their 25 model but with an even heavier keel.
The swing keel is a must for rivers and areas like the Bahamas where the coral grows, and causes chart data to be inaccurate. If you follow the channels, you should be ok with a fun keel.
You must be an electrician by trade or something. It’s so outfitted yet so organized.
Someone crossed from abroad to UK in a leisure 17 Hurley silhouettes have done so too no reason a Catalina 22 couldn't
People have crossed the ocean in canoes. I personally wouldn't do it. But this is a perfect little boat for coastal cruising, and smaller passages given a good whether window.
Can you tell us, what would be a fair price to buy that boat ?
I couldn't say other than to first look at the price of comparable boats on the market, then add to it a value that you feel the modifications and equipment this boat has are worth to you compared to other boats offered.
Keep them from leakin, keep them drained, nice boat. Little bit of weight, make sure that bomar is skrewed down.
Nicely done!!!
Is gasoline storage vented?
Yes, because the locker lid is not sealed by a gasket and there is a notch cut into the bottom corner of the lid, it vents to the cockpit only.
That was fun!
Steersman is no longer operating it seems 😕looks like a great system though :)