House Full of Lies
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- A story of depression, deceit, and disillusionment. How a young kid watching Full House accidentally found a plot hole so big you could walk through it, and what happened sixteen years later. My love letter to television, and finally an answer to 'whatever happened to predictability?'.
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Why didn't they just have Jesse say "I can't help you with your campaign...because I got expelled right before graduation for driving my motorcycle into the gym." You'd get laughs and a callback to the other episode.
That would've made more sense than the "I dropped out because my teacher was bullying me."
Tell me you don't know anything about comedy without telling me you don't know anything about comedy.
I just hated how DJ and the rest of the family couldn't let it die when Jesse said he couldn't do it. I mean yeah his excuse was lame but if he said he's busy, he's busy. And DJ could have gotten someone else other than Joey 🤷♀️
@@LilyZerep You got a point. I hated that episode for that reason. I mean they even blocked the kitchen door so Jesse couldn't leave!
@@LilyZerep true but it’s Full House, everyone on that show had to make a big deal about everything
This is great man. I'm a little older than you but not by much. Grew up with a very broken family and the Tanners always felt like my "real" family. My family solved issues with yelling and fighting while they'd talk it out and hug it out. It was great. As the writer mentioned; it was intended to go on tv and disappear one day, but here we are in a new age.
Can't say I ever noticed this plot hole but I vividly remember both episodes so clearly.
Thanks for the write up and video and glad you could be a part of the Tanner legacy. :)
If that ending doesn’t make you smile you’re not human. Wonderful video
honestly
Wait till he notices how many episodes Steph had earrings before sneaking behind Danny's back🤣
I love this show. When my family first arrived in America back in 1992 it welcomed us and taught us the life there.
We see this in a great many of the shows of the 60's, 70's and 80's. They didn't really care very much about continuity while making these shows.They didn't understand or were unable to predict the marketability of these series in syndication and sale of seasons on DVD, wherein superfans would watch episodes multiple times and dissect storylines. As a writer of fanfiction for several obscure series of that time period, I have run into this on numerous occasions.
They change a lot in the series. In the beginning it was uncle Jesse and Steph, and then they change it to uncle Jesse and spoiled Michael
They retconned Jessie several times. In one episode he could dance in a later one he could not.
It’s so easy. “What are they gonna do, expel me?” They did. He was expelled and decided to drop out.
if he left before walking up to get his diploma without a major reason (like being drafted/joining the military) it is possible the school board expelled him giving him an incomplete.
it can happen, in one school an 18 year old female student who had a GPA of 4.0 and would have been the valedictorian was expelled 2 days before graduation because she (for some reason) filmed an adult movie that was released before she graduated even though at 18 you are not a minor. it violated "decency" clause in the private school she was in.
he also might have found out in the earlier episode from one of the teachers
also you picked that as the biggest plot hole: Jessie's last name changed in the middle of the show from Jesse Cochran to Jesse Katsopolis (born Hermes Katsopolis)
This is a masterpiece
This was unexpectedly beautiful
So we spent a train ride and a new shitty computer just for a plot hole. That’s pretty bad.
That's how I felt about the Brady Bunch dude. I was all prepared to call you a wuss, but I understand now. Bless you.
As a kid I noticed a lot of plotholes in sitcoms but usually chalked it up to being like The Simpsons where almost everything resets for each new episode. Still cool you got to talk to the writer!
The house layouts bother me.
It's because back before streaming/dvd box sets, we had 52 weeks a year. When a season is 20+ episodes, you only got to see maybe 2 episodes a year unless the show was so popular it got multiple airings. Even then, what are the odds you get to watch them all?
Writers didn't keep track of things in one off jokes and unless we binged during a marathon, we usually missed it.
growing up in an extremally toxic household, full house was the first family i remember asking, "Why can't we be like them?"
This speaks to me haha. I used to think, “if I did what Stephanie did, my parents would actually have murdered me. I was hit if I accidentally spilled milk and my parents before divorcing had quite possibly the worst marriage ever
same literally same! now that im out of there im asking why cant my relationships be like jesse & beckys
This show was as toxic as your life. Fyi: stop watching tv
@@jondoe9491Why can’t you be nicer?????
The character of Danny Tanner is why I wanted to be a dad
I think the biggest plot hole, for me, was how the house grew an attic above the second floor. We see exterior shots showing two main floors and a lower-level area for the basement. There's no space for an attic level! Yet Jesse, Becky, and the twins move into an area which cannot exist. LIES!
I completely relate to being depressed and turning to old sitcoms as a teen. For me it was Nick at Nite. It's absolutely incredible that you got the writer involved. This is a great video.
Hey, me too! I loved Nick at Nite!
@@yessumyecrad Me three it was great
My 6th grade term paper in 1992 was on the Dick Van Dyke Show thanks too my obsession with Nick at Nite!
I completely agree
I WASS ONLY 8 YEARS, WATCHINN NICK AT NITEEE
I never saw that as a plot hole because I knew people like Jesse. He was popular and loved by all. It would be shameful if he told people he wasn't graduating. So he lied. Told everyone he was walking together. And maybe even do rehearsal. But come the big moment. He isn't there, he didn't have enough credits. He never went back to school to finish the credits because he doesn't want the younger ones to see his shame. So he dropped out. Because at the end of the day. Once high-school is over most people don't see each other every again. Because fall comes and everyone has jobs or have gone away to college or just plain moved.
Bro you’re wrong… Jesse Cochran graduated from High School but Jesse Kastopolis didn’t so no plot hole it’s two different Jesse’s
Back in 2012 I suffered from depression and I was unable to leave my house for 4 months. I binged on this show during that time, although it wasn't my first full house run, it made me feel better, safer even. It was because of the support of my family and this show that I was able to get out of my depression
Degrassi is my show that lifts me out of my depression
Oh my gosh you young TH-camrs are something else. First of all, everyone already knows this…we even knew this waaaaay back in 1992. Sitcoms of every series has plot holes Sherlock. So far, I have only watch the first one but let me guess the second one is Becky’s singing? Pressing play to see if I am right.
Hmm, not even the writer can think about Becky’s good singing voice, then bad, then good again. You better go investigate this bone chilling plot hole.
Wouldn't it make perfect sense that he lied to his girlfriend in high school because he was embarrassed about dropping out?
must easier to write into the story that my thought of "maybe he was suspended for riding the motorcycle in and then had to go to summer school to graduate and he passed on that"
My first thought lol
Or that he actually did get expelled for riding a motorbike into a school
@@nintalespaw yeah no getting expelled on the day before graduation still means he got a highschool education
But not a diploma and would not walk across the stage
Why am I crying?
This was great. Thank you, from one grown up depressed teen to another
Guys... this is 90's TV. Characters are not complicated.... minimal depth. What you see is what you get. Based on those flashback scenes, Jesse absolutely graduated high school. This is 100% a plot hole. Well done spenceramsdell! And great storytelling.
The 90’s were just a time of simplicity
Yeah. My classmates thought the girls hugging uncle Jesse was somehow illegal and my classmate Jacob needed me to explain so I explained about everything.
Well, yes it is technically a plot hole. But the show isn’t actually real life, it’s make believe. So like in the way ppl come up w SpongeBob and breaking bad theories, Jesse not graduating in contradiction to him graduating early on in the series is easily explained away. That said, it was a neat story how he spoke w the writer. I was actually waiting for him to throw in an explanation as a twist somehow. Like resolving it w the writer like that in some way. But either way it’s pretty cool that he was able to talk w the writer. Sometimes you never know the possible opportunities that can arise by just simply asking.
This was great. Also not at all what I thought it was going to be about when I clicked lol
"characters are no complicated" thats a lie specifically when you had shows like boys meet world,twin peak, sopranos, or the x-files just depends on the writers
I grew up watching this show, sitting down for dinner watching TGIF with the family in the 90s. It was an oddly magical time. I’m 41 now and feel like a boomer talking about “the good ole days”. Full House was the standard for that era. It holds up well as a time capsule.
Yeah, I doubt have a lot of love for the show, but it was definitely a snapshot of the time. The only reason I watched the video was that it seemed like it would be a nice hit of nostalgia. (Which it was. Damn you, algorithm!)
Simpler times. I remember every Friday sitting down in front of the TV, freshly showered, tearing into a brand new bag of cool ranch Doritos, and settling in for 2 hours of great TV. Then waking up Saturday morning, pouring a bowl of cereal and watching cartoons. I'd give almost anything to feel that one more time.
Not only was this incredibly well made, I found it to be beautiful. You tied in our collective past, our adolescence, with your own a generation later. I'm almost crying, you did something special here. Damn it, nostalgia, gets me every time 🥹
Beautifully said! And beautifully made!
Right 🥹🥹🥹
I do think the two plot points aren't terribly irreconcilable if they wanted to expand on it. One possibility is that he did actually get expelled (how would that work if you've passed your final exams anyway?). The second possibility that he thought he was graduating but actually he was being held back a year but he was such a truant he didn't even know before graduation day (and then gave the big middle finger to that idea). Third possibility is that he was laid back about driving his motorcycle into the gym because he had already quit but he didn't want to admit that to his girlfriend.
You can absolutely get denied your diploma for misconduct the day before your graduation.
Or they expelled him for driving a motorcycle in the gym and needing to spend a hundred grand replacing the floor boards he ruined.
I prefer thinking about it as two Mirror Universes with subtle differenes, each one where one of the Olsen Twins plays Michelle. In one of those universes, Jesse doesn't graduate high school...
In some schools if you have outstanding payments for school functions or anything like that you can get denied your diploma despite passing everything else. Or he could've just punched the principal in the face.
Also, or it was an idealised flashback where he chooses to misremember things??? I feel that it’s more likely this than an actual plot hole
Seeing you hold
the shooting draft Script
at the end was so Heartwarming
Thank you for this 💗💗💗
Full house was a BIG PART
of my childhood as well.
I didn’t come from a warm family environment so seeing them come together and love one another helped me know that families like that exist.
May God Bless you
& thank you again for sharing this awesome video with us
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🕊🕊🕊🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
RIP to Bob Saget
I loved Full House growing up and he was one of the better father figures on TV. This show also helped me discover Bob Saget and a few other actors whom I still follow to this day.
Look up his comedy acts and the roast that they did for him. The jokes about the kids especially the twins was disgusting.
@@earthmama9597 🤢🤢 yep. So gross
Saget was a degenerate irl, nothing like Danny Tanner
@@earthmama9597 he got his karma…
Man was a pervert. Idgaf.
I noticed that too. My kids and I laugh about it a lot. We also laugh about the total changes between season 1 and the rest of the show. Danny is more laid back and less obsessed with cleanliness and Jesse's last name is Cochrane instead of Katsolopis.
I suppose they just changed Jesse to have Greek heritage instead of Irish because the actor is Greek.
I didn't expect to cry today but here we are. Your video awoke the inner child within me, I too recall watching re-runs of Full House down here in Australia as a young boy, wanting desperately to be a part of the Tanner Household. My real life family was and is good enough in some respects but were very very flawed. I appreciate the time you took to tell this story and was very touched by your video.
I find myself missing a lot of 90s style sitcoms. The TGIF lineup was amazing. Family Matter's don't get enough credit.
Thata my favorite. Family matters. My name is laura so my friends would always tease me that urqel was going to get me lol
What ever happened to Judy!?
@@jessicamcvey5588 Wikipedia will tell you it all. I just looked her up.
i never noticed this and i’ve seen this series probably 7+ times from start to finish. it’s always cool to discover these little things after so many years of loving something.
i loved this video. full house has been a favorite of mine since i was little and we’re about the same age. i almost got teary-eyed when you were talking about how it swept you away into a better world. it will always have that power over me.
you did a fantastic job with this. the production and presentation are both stellar and i hope you continue to make videos.
Holy fuck. Who the fuck would watch this bullshit start to finish 7X?
My god, go outside
This wasn't the only plot hole I noticed. The other one was involved Joey getting chicken pox twice?
@Melissa Cooper my sisters, my children and I all had chicken pox twice, how does that tie into a plot hole?:)
@@bridgetthomas7664 Now that I think about it it's not really a plot hole. Joey most likely had the chicken pox the first time as a child and got them again as an adult. It would make sense that he would claim he never got them because according to his father he was only three. He couldn't remember that far back!
Great job! It’s amazing that you connected with the actual writer!! 👏
Their conversation brought a big smile to my face for some reason.
RIP Bob Saget. Now we know why he left us too early. He was carrying this burden and couldn’t live with it.
... he left beacuse he died ...
Lmfao the burden was to hard to handle
I always thought it was because secretly Uncle Jesse REALLY didn't want to help with the project so he just flat out lied. What if he gets out of doing stuff all the time by making up wild lies?!
It was his only out at that point, the entire family was on his ass! What a toxic gang-up!
That would mean he went back to school soley to perpetuate this lie and get out of doing stuff..... Which I could see Jesse doing!
I don't know how i was able to stumble upon this gem of a video but im so happy i did. Full house was also a comfort show for me when i was little so its really nice to know that at least some of the people behind it are genuinely cool
This video was sooooo good. No joke. Wholesome as hell but also earth shattering too. I don't think I can ever be the same again...k maybe not. Great job mate!
I have never seen the show. Not one single episode. My first thought on "I graduate tomorrow" was, yeah right. There's no way someone who looks and acts like you would have paid attention in class.
So, when he said he never graduated my thought was "yup, thought so"
In my mind, there was no plot hole whatsoever.
Thank you for your work. I was a avid watcher of full house and it raised me. You really did some digging and I'm so glad that you finally got this cleared up for yourself and the fans. You, my friend, are very intelligent
I'm not sure why this showed up in my feed, or why I actually watched it. However, I really did enjoy it! lol Was awesome seeing it all come full circle for you. Thanks for telling the story!
😊 Great smile, too!
No idea why this showed in my feed, but I watched all of this. I’m glad that the writer actually gave you some time to discuss the episode. RIP BobSaget. Can’t believe he’s gone.
it's funny because before DVDs and binge watching streaming media, continuity was not always important to writers. Especially in sitcoms. But now it's crazy to even consider writing something this comically inconsistent.
Yea. Growing up then, if you missed an episode and never taped it, you are royally screwed.
Either a witch hunt for someone who's hopefully taped it, or a rerun months/years later
I have a young mentally challenged member of my family who lives in Pennsylvania and he was obsessed with Full House. After learning we lived in Sacramento his family flew out and I was tasked with finding this house. We drove for about an hour, actually passed the house but for some reason decided it was not it, (too many cooks driving). We ending up heading home and he just lit up and said he was SURE that we passed it and we need to go back. In a car full of tired relatives I said "ok" and turned the car around. He was right and now has his picture too. He didn't say one word on the way home, just sat in contentment. Good times.
This made me smile. Thank you for that
YESSSS THIS IS FANTASTIC
There was also a huge plot hole…where Uncle Jesse in one episode reveals his first name is actually “Hermes”…and in another episode….first season, if I remember correctly…he said his last name was “Cochran”…I know these things…because I used to have an email address that was “HermesCochran”…at whatever email site I was on…anyway…full house is amazing…The Katsopolis just was created later since Stamos wanted to use his Greek heritage as part of the character….and I agree…the episode with Papouli and then the Stavros one…are awesome…him being Greek makes the character a lot cooler…
You know, maybe you solved the plot hole. Jesse Cochran graduated and Hermes "Jesse" Katsopolis didn't.
> I know these things…because I used to have an email address that was “HermesCochran”
The causation is reversed here.
Yes, the changing of Cochran to Katsopolis was a deliberate creative choice, and a cool one at that. But if there's only a single mention of "Hermes" that's only played for laughs and never mentioned again, is that really a plot hole? If you never again choose to bring up a name that you're born with and you're otherwise embarrassed by, so be it! lol! To me, it could play out as if initially, Jesse was simply going by Jesse Cochran, as an ode to the musician Eddie Cochran, but then slowly revealed his Greek ancestry over time.
@@jaketheman091 Jesse is a musician after all, so maybe Jesse Cochran was his stage name? And then as the seasons go on and his Greek heritage is explored, we learn his real lastname is Katsopolis
How about the Joey/Uncle Joey being the real father of Danny's kids and Jesses kids LOL! All have blonde hair and blue eyes hmm... Sounds like someone has been full housing around LOL!🤔👱♀👱♂🏠
Wonder why the title wasn't "Full House...of lies."
Seems more obvious.
1. We never saw him graduate. 2. He could have been lying to his girlfriend. Hell I knew a guy who did graduate and kept coming back to our high school because he was such a loser he wouldn't move on. Jesse could have been expelled but kept showing up anyway. 3. Funniest option from comments, he actually was expelled for the motorcycle stunt, or held back and then refused to finish. Or any other technicality that might have required him to go to Summer school, but he ended up refusing. That would make the most sense, it would mean he thought he was going to graduate, it would mean he did drop out by refusing another semester. It would even make sense that he'd not think it was a big deal then, but be embarrassed and ashamed of it years later. It would also explain him being invited to his high school reunion without actually graduating.
I went to 3 high schools. I could have gone to any of their reunions. I only graduated from one. Graduating isn't an absolute rule for a reunion.
This reminds me of Adam Carolla who believes he never technically graduated from high school. He was told they wouldn't give him his diploma or let him walk in the ceremony unless he paid an overdue book fine. He didn't pay the fine, never got the diploma.
Calm down. It’s just a Tv show. No need to make a big deal about it… Unless you just have a boring life and want to make a video about all the research you done about the show 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Ok, so i choose to believe that this was a crossed universe episode where Uncle Jessie was a stereotypical 90s dropout musician. They wrote a Mandela effect into the show! lol There, fixed it 🙂
You presented a Full House PowerPoint at someone's birthday party? That's great can't figure out why you didn't have friends..
I always knew about this and thought that it would have been a great idea if the writers did this on purpose to illustrate Jesse being ashamed of being a dropout and living this lie but the flashback episode kills that theory. It use to really bothers me but I got over it. Just like Jesse signing deals with labels on episodes and then going back to struggle with his music as an independent without explanation. Most sitcoms have those holes to be fair. I think that's because back in those days you would watch the show in real time so the writers probably thought that if something was said 3 seasons ago it won't be remembered by anyone 3 years later.
The only deal he ever signed was with Fat Fish Records. I'm not sure what else you could be referring to - having one number one hit in Japan and then plateauing thereafter? That doesn't necessarily insinuate a plot hole. Plus, for all we know, he could have been a one hit wonder. just sayin! lol
@@jaketheman091 that Japan tour thing came right after he had his first video aired on MTV so you would think his career was taking off
Watch the 14 seasons of Bonanza , and the 10 seasons Little House on the Prairie/ Little House a New Beginning and you will find similar mistakes. I'm sure other shows that ran for a long time had them too.
Growing up as a military kid I remember my first move as a kid with friends it was one of the toughest moments of my life and I understand the feeling
This was pretty dumb I was expecting something more sinister. A lot of shows have mad plot holes. I'm surprised this was the only he found. A lame one at that.
I think he was high when he graduated or he didn't pick it up lol that could be in a later show omg I did but I was too high to pick it up that's why I don't remember and here I thought I quit school looks like I was in enough to get my diploma omg I can go and ask for it you see how that could be an episode on fuller house and of course ad others quirky stuff that have to do with kids and their mothers fixing it.
A… a Power Point Party?? Good Lord am I that removed from a social life that parties aren’t just parties?
You want to talk about plot holes….look at saved by the bell. 😂.
The characters on that show did whatever the plot needed them to.
If they needed to be in band…suddenly they played instruments.
If they needed them to be in a musical, suddenly not only were they in theater but now they had the leads.
Crazy!
I thought it would be about his name change. I swear his name is Jessie katsopolis. But at one point isn’t his band Jessie Cochran and the rippers?
I'm 28
I haven't heard the full house theme since 2004
Holy f word
I dropped out of high-school. I was still invited to what would have been my graduating class reunion.
It was more fun than I was expecting.
Oh, please. You want plot holes? Become an avid fan of The Golden Girls, and then we'll talk. ;-) Great video, by the way.
This is a fantastic video! The pacing, the niche story, the surprises…I loved it
U r all wrong sweet heart full house is not a bunch of lies bc the director and the writers are bc they are the one made full house the ppl playing full house just showed up and audition for the show so before u start bad mouthing the show get ur story straight first
this was amazing! such a plot twist tracking down the writer, good job!
When I was younger, I watched the hell out of this show, Fresh Prince, and George Lopez thanks to Nick at Nite reruns
I watched the full house when was little boy. I was born in 2003.
This video was not what I expected. But it’s a story so wholesome it should be on the show itself. Tom is a great sport.
Rest In Peace Bob Saget. ❤️🕊️
is it powerpoint presentation parties something normal among your friends? lol
Remembering Bob Saget with love, always.
This is amazing -> you got interview with Tom Buckhard.
PowerPoint birthday party??? Wtf lol🤔
A power point birthday party ? That sounds just awful.
It sounds fun to me.
@@Aster_Risk And I'm sure you're no fun at actual parties either. Lets all do homework for my birthday ....yay
Michelle being played by 2 girls isn't a lie they told. They are both credited in the intro lol
There was the episode where Jesse refers to about not wearing a cap at graduation
I expected this video to be super dark and disturbing 😂
Boy meets world had the most plotholes but still my favorite
I grew up similar time frame and was my respite back then
Jesse Catsopolis used to be Jesse Cochran.
I have a question did you watch fuller house
What an awesome piece of history you not only discovered yourself, but actually own the script to the plot hole! Frame that for sure!
Hello I have subscribed to your TH-cam channel
This is so cool! That's great that you got to talk with one of the writers and get a script out of it. I've noticed a bunch of plotholes over the years too, including the reason for Pam's death. In the first episode, Jesse mentions she got sick before she died. But much later in the series, DJ says her mom was killed by a drunk driver.
Who the hell has a power point birthday party
It's make believe 🤷♀️
This was so wholesome ☺️
What the hell did I just watch?:-D
My fellow Virgo brother
Did you watch on Nick at Nite
I was one of the lucky ones that got to watch full house as it aired. Thank you for doing the deep investigation this issue deserves! Great story :)
Never been to a power point party my guy.
Have you watched fuller House since it came back for a few seasons
5 seasons of fuller house
That was a big ass lobster
Wow, this presentation is & was unexpectedly incrediblely emotional; quite insightful about the human condition/ experience. Thank you for producing & publishing it.
Grew up in the 80's and 90's, we only had broadcast TV those days in my country, it was only public TV so we had 3 channels to choose from. Full House was always aired just before prime time, around 7pm I think. My sister and I would always tape it on the VCR and we spent years watching those reruns on VHS tapes. Those episodes really were magical for us kids, they showed us a better family life where everything ended as an experience learning something and it was always hugs after any conflict. It really did take us away from the much bleaker real world. Many thanks to Tom and all those involved in the series, you guys really did make this little boy's life feel better for half an hour each week. 🥰🥰🥰
You live in Des Moines :o
This was well done. I look forward to other, seemingly inconsequential, videos that have such a heart behind it. This was honestly moving and inspiringly simplistic
Yo, well made video.
You're on reddit. This is going to blow up. Great work, I really enjoyed watching it. Keep making videos!