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bought mine 07 brand new and since i have replaced 4 third brake light, back when it first happened i just smelled it then saw the healiner. the florda sun dry rots them extremly quick (3 years or so) before they rack and leak
FordTechMakuloco whats up buddy... i have a cuestion.! i have a 2004 triton 5.4 ford f150 ... i have a problem when is running at 4 gear..! it make a noise, sound like a kick and it does one or two times during acceleration you know... i dont know if is transmission or somthing else..! by the way awesome vidios...!
Thanks again, I ordered the light and cleaner last week. Changed the light yesterday and cleaned the headliner tonight. All went well. It's raining tonight so that will be the test.
Should be a recall period. I've never had a leak in my 2009 that I am aware of....but now I have to wonder if it's just been a small one all this time.
Awesome tip on the headliner cleaning. I'm due to get my hands on a new-to-me C-Max soon that I know has some mild staining on the headliner and this will come in really handy.
Great video as always! You can also use distilled water and a clean white cloth. Saturate the towell, then wipe the area. Then use a hair dryer to dry. Has worked great on mine 2 times now!
Thanks for this. I had an unknown water leak and someone pointed out the stains in my grey headliner. I thought it might be related to the rubber strips with rivets on each rear exterior side but this is most likely the answer. I have a 2013 model and have never changed or checked this.
On my ‘10 F150 it ended up being the rear window that was leaking. On the top left I could clearly see a gap in the seal. When I put a water hose up to it my headliner immediately got left. Fixed it with Flowable Silicone. No more leaks or wet headliner!
I don't have the water showing on my 2013 AF-150 headliner but in the light has all kinds of moisture .... maybe I should replace it before it does leak?
I had this issue with my 2010 and it rusted my cab corners out. I was a few days past the 5yr corrosion warranty by the time it achieved the "rust through " required by Ford and then Ford denied my claim and I had to pay out of pocket to fix it. Not sure how this hasn't ended up as a recall or in court as a class action lawsuit. Good to know there is a replace to to fix the issue and also how to get the stains out of my headliner. Be ordering both soon. Thanks for the tip on cleaning the headliner!
Same here. Biggest automotive regret of my life, and I am old! Ford Motor Company is a trash outfit now. They have lost my business for life! Should have bought a GM.
Heard that leak can drain down and contribute to the rocker panels rusting out. I know water gets in when I wash it but didn't know it was this easy to change it. Thank you.
I can 100% agree with you my inner and outer rockers are clean my cab corners are shot and I honestly believe that that was the culprit to my corners rusting
hello friend..and neighbor.... i hope you don't mind me commenting.. as far as stains along inside of headliner.. i used damp rag (wringed out) and put some Shout Laundry spray stain cleaner on it.. and wringed it out again... just a few sprays on the rag.. and wiped all along line...(totally cleaned it within an hour it was dry and gone)... just a thought... thanks for the video!
Just bought a brand new ford light assembly on eBay. I don't have the leak yet on my 2011 (I do have the old style light) but want to swap it out before it starts to leak! Read all over online forms that this is a common issue. I figured stop it before it starts!
cost me 154.00 but I did it today after watching your video! thanks, my cab corners are starting to rust and bubble from the inside and the lamp would fill with water each time I washed it (added led lamps while I was in there), but no headliner stains, Thanks for the info!!!
Hi. Thank you so much for being here!💗👍I have a 1997 Ford Escort and there's a water leak and it pools in the right rear area. It's the area where the wrench for turning your lug nuts if you have a flat tire. The little indentation and it's filling up with water is there a way that I can figure out where it is coming from and how to stop it? Thank you so much for any and all help!💗
Had the same leak on my 2008 Superduty. I sure wish ford would sell the gasket without the light. I fixed mine by pulling off light, cleaning all surfaces, and using some RTV to form a gasket. Back seat is dry as a bone now.
This video is gold. Now I'm going to get the OEM replacement and the cleaner. instead of the aftermarket junk. Had no idea that there was an "updated" version of the light, let alone headliner motorcraft headliner shampoo. Thanks for the video
I had that leak on my e 350 van would drip in rear,remove clean and used rv putty tape,worked great,never caulk or silccone,if you have to change bulb you are in for a fight.
Had this issue on my '04 F150 and my current '09 F150. Thankfully I caught it both times before it stained the headliner. Replaced the light on my '09 a couple years ago and went with a recon light instead of oem. The dealer wanted $250 for the oem light and I didn't trust it was going to be any better than the one I was replacing. The recon had a much thicker gasket and was less than $90 when I purchased it.
I just fixed my 2014 f150, the recommended part did not solve the problem, this gasket compressed paper thin. I appreciate you videos especially the ones relating to f150"s.
mine was leaking from roof panel meets back window , had to take back window out and they had to double caulk to fix . Same symtom head liner stained same as the third brake lite.
Great video, that cleaner looks to be awesome stuff. I have a 14 F150 that had that problem, and even the new cover and gasket didn't fix. I ended up making my own gasket out of 3/4" outdoor weather stripping from HD, hasn't leaked in over 2 years now. The new gasket Ford uses is very porous, and actually absorbs water like a sponge instead of repelling it. The 15 and up F150 appear to have the same brake light assembly, have you seen any water issues with the new body style?
i thought my 2010 was leaking around the 3rd brake light, but after replacing it i found out it still leaked water at the top left of the glass from inside.turn's out it was the seal around the outer edge of the back glass that was the gremlin, the corner had slide out of place,replacing it was easy, so you might consider a video on that issue if you have the time. a $15 roll of 3M 3/8" window sealant fixed her right up with plenty of tape to spare,plus in an afternoon your good to go,tho cleaning the old sealant off is a big pain lol
Nice Video. I have a 2004 Ford f150 crew cab. I removed the third brake light and put silicone around it. It stopped the leak on the side of the floor on rear passenger and driver side where the door is at for a while. Now the rear seats is getting wet. Could it be leaking from the roof channels or the rear back windows seal?
the 2004-2008 can develop a leak on the passenger side under the kick panel and carpet edge molding/trim. (could be confused with a firewall A/C drain leak) Water sets in the channel and rots the floor near the kick panel (low spot where the wiring lays). Reseal the floor inside and underneath the cab. (floor grommet located on bottom side, under passenger right foot area, will rot-out and lets water sneak between sheets of steel floor) check behind the fuse panel area on the passenger side too. (There is a grommet there as well as the wiring connector from the door could leak). Also, front fenders may have gunk/old leaves etc building up at the bottom ...open door slightly to see into bottom of fender...spray with hose until it clears. (fenders may not be related to the interior leak but while you're down there...) Use POR15 quart can with a brush for floor and wiring channel.
Robnation I sure am glad I found your comment on this video. I hear water sloshing around in my passenger floor board. Will be checking all this stuff you mentioned tomorrow. I’ll let you know what I find.
@@davidshockley2383 It seems to happen more often with the nose is low (backed into driveway) Check your 3rd tail light but you may want to buy some new bulbs prior to sealing it. Good luck! (I was considering putting a plug with a drain tube in the passenger side channel (pull up the wiring channel near the front door) There is a plastic plug there already.
My 2010 F150 has shown leakage this year (2021) during the monsoon season in New Mexico. I did the antenna fix a couple of years ago and should have addressed this issue at that time, now I have to deal with the water stains.
My 2016 f150 has the same issue already and is out of warranty, Ford really needs to re design this 3rd brake light/seal to better keep water out. My cargo,puddle,tailgate,bed lamps also have a mind of their own and turn off and on all day and night I wonder if this is related..although I suspect the switch it the bed is the reason for this... Your videos are great 👍
I just changed mine to an aftermarket smoked light and a few things are different. It was a pain to pull off the rear pushpins for headliner inside cab even with the panel prybar to access the connection point of wire to plug in the new light. there is a pushpin holding the cable/connection point to the truck that is put in from inside the cab. I decided to just pop the pushpin out from outside the truck through the brake light hole and just not secure that back down and the job was much easier and I didn't have to go find the right color headliner pushpin if I broke it getting it out or risk damaging my headliner.
Is there any carry over from the 3rd brake light assm. to have similar stains to appear on the a-pillar too or do I have another leak somewhere? Perhaps the front windshield seam/seal?
The look on your face when plugging those bulbs in! Haha Brian you crack me up! I just had to splice my new third brake light in. Got to love aftermarket!
First, thanks for all your videos. Extremely helpful. Best out there. Second, do you have a link for the gasket that you’d recommend? My light is fine. The gasket is deteriorated but still not leaking. I did put a aftermarket light that leaked so I’m trying to go back to oem & replace gasket
I have read that some of the newest gen F150's, 2015+ CHSML's have been melting from excessive heat. Have you seen one of those yet Brian? Whats the fix if you have? Good vid
First, I appreciate all you videos. As opposed to buying a new third brake light cover, why not just use a bead of silicone caulk on the inside and outside? The brake light covers aren't cheap and what's to prevent it happening again? Heat gun should help remove silicone when it's time to change brake lights, right?
Have you ever had to replace the third brake light wiring harness that melted where the bulbs screw into the sockets? I have this issue on my 2000 ford expedition 4.6L V8 Triton XLT and I'm trying to figure out how to do this but I'm getting different answers and some say that area has to be sauntered. Any advice from anyone would be appreciated for this newbie female diy mechanic.💅🏼😊
I had already suspected an issue with the light as the previous owner had done a grade school level of silicon sealing it with Black RTV , including the crack on top of the light. I've had the truck about a month now. I took the truck out today in the rain and saw water come from the center of the headliner / windshield area onto the dash , I suppose braking could cause it to flow to the front ? Wondering if you could make a gasket from door seal material ?
I have a 2013 Superduty with inoperative fog lights. I've verified the fuse, indicator on the headlight switch illuminates. Even tested the bulbs. Have you encountered fog lamp relay failures in the body control module?
I have a 2011 with no visable signs of leakage. Is this something that should be done regardless? I've also heard that this could be a cause of the cab corners rusting. Any truth to that?
Great video.. but I have a leak coming out of the bottom passenger pillar screw cap.. I check the third brake light seal and it not leaking . I removed the third brake light and stuffed a dry paper towel right behind it. Then I waited for it to rain . I live in the northwest so I didn't have to wait long. Sure enough my pillar leaked. I checked the towel the next day and it was dry as a bone. Next I pressurized the can by turning on the HVAC to recirculate and put my compressor hose in on full blast and shut the door. After that I made up some thick suds and went around all my exterior seals including all window. No bubbles ! I can't find a leak to save my life. Any suggestions ?
Safe lite was out to replace my windshield today and pointed out my rear window leaks. The stains are very faint and hard to notice without a flashlight. However, in want to fix it. Is that all it usually is, just the center brake light? He told me it's also the rivets or something under the weather stripping on both sides of the cab.
I never saw you mention the Focus hatchback body panel leaks. Old gen and new gen have same issues. Body separation from hatch weight. Seems to have been kept hush even though it's common.
What about the water the got inside? Does it mostly get soaked up by the headliner? Had my ranger parked for winter just noticed small stain... wondering about Rust obviously
I did a temporary fix on my old third brake light The rubber gasket foam was no good I cleaned it up as best as possible I put a bunch of marine grease underneath Try not to put too much because it’ll run out on your paint when it’s raining
When did the revised gasket come out? My 04 had a leak repaired under warranty, I wonder if it has the revised gasket or if I should replace it to prevent it coming back.
I cannot get the housing to be flush with the truck, I bought an OEM replacement, I think the lack of a 3rd screw in the middle is also a problem. I may go get some transparent caulk and do a bead around the seal.
hey i have a ford f150 and the wind took my door today and it banged hard fully open. now when I close my door it bangs hard. it seems that it knocked my door up and the latch that's on the truck hits on the bottom part of the door catch. Any suggestions on how to fix
Something bent for sure the hinges just don't move out of adjustment the striker and latch don't move much at all for adjustment. It is best to just have a body shop align it by moving the hinge mount point.
I'm looking to adjust myself where should I adjust. I don't think I should adjust the striker BC when it's closed all ceases line up perfect. it's only off by probably 1/8" tops. anyway u can post alittle video of how to adjust. I can't find anything on utube. it doesn't hit very hard but it's not perfect.
I noticed that my 3rd brake light has some green crap on the inside of the light and I am wondering if it has been leaking into my headliner as well. I have a black headliner and would not be able to tell without touching. I would think I would know since it rains 8 to 9 months a year here in Washington state and there would be some tell tale sign of an issue. I will check this out if it stops raining.
On black head liners I would still see white rings or stain lines. Water ingress in the light fixture is common it doesn't mean the outer seal is also leaking.
This leak is also sometimes the rear window Butal seal. on mine it had shrunk leaving the same symptoms. Best to runs water on the cab and test the Seal and the Break light.
About the only problem our service truck at work hasn't had out of the list of problems with that gen of ford truck has had. I think you said there had been issues in the wiring to the cam sensors on the 5.4. like to see a diagnose video as the CEL has been on about 3 years for cam sensors and replacing them didn;t help.
So replaced the back light the gasket that it came with was I would say kinda thick but I can't remember but it still leaks from somewhere any other ideas
my 08 dome light didn't wor,k, so I took it apart and found moisture stains and rust of the electrical contacts inside the Dome light fixture. I'm wondering where did the water come from ? My headliner looks ok ... could it have been the same reason ? the exterior brake light ?
My 2014 and now my 2015 F250 third brake light housing is allowing rain water to get in. Is there a similar fix or am I just stuck with using a gasket maker to the seal the housing against the truck body.
Any experience with water leaks with a 2018 F250? Mine leaks behind the kick panel while pouring water on the top corner of the windshield. Windshield is not OEM.
Silicone or butyl caulk would also seal up the poorly designed seal area. This water leak has also lead to many a rusted out cab corner on many a F150. I think designed that way on purpose, so they do not last as long as the older well built trucks. And it is not just Ford, it is the way everything is engineered these days.
Hey Boss!! Just got a 2010 f150 and it's leaking at the passenger holy sh$& handle. Found a forum that said it's either the third brake light (your video is appreciated) also could be the sat antenna. Do you happen to have a video for that as well?
So I’m currently at this problem. I just ordered a new 3rd light from Ford and installed it. Went outside after the rain last night and it was dry. Curiosity got the best of me though and I poured a 5 gallon bucket with probably 3-4” of water in it on the roof and it started leaking just like before. What is the problem? What’s my next step?
Is it possible that this issue is causing water build up between the cab and the “outer shell” of the cab? I can’t think of a better way to ask this question. I can hear water sloshing around when I turn and it sounds like it’s in the floor of the truck.
I literally went through this 6 months ago for my 2010. Funny how the OEM seal was only about 1/8" wide and all bunched up when they installed it at the factory.
Is there a way to order thicker gaskets/weather strip, I have upgraded my lights to LED and the Manufacture of those used the 1/8 specs for gasket seal.
I appreciate your response thanks. Would it called third brake light gasket lmao. I have been using air conditioner weather stripping and I would need to replace it.
loving the channel keep up the good work kind of off topic here, wondering what is the best and easiest to use j2534 pass thru device.I'm looking to purchase one.
I would check to see it takes less than a minute if it has a thick strip of foam around light. i had to clean my 2014 a few weeks ago because I got some dirt in the light there's almost no foam!
Yes they do. Doors our of alignment. And my particular 15 f150 ecoboost has a very annoying vibration that resonates through the gas pedal and steering wheel but only at around 2500 to 3000 rpms. Almost like a grinding at right at.shifting rpms. Dealer installed new gas pedal with no fix. Its not a deal braker but sucks to deal with. They recommend loosing engine mounts and let engine settle then retighten. Weird thing is it is only bad over 60 degrees and warmed up. Cold engine cold temps no vibrqtions at all.
Same here. My rear dont dont close to good unless the windows or another door is open. Sealed cabin is what i assume. Plus my dashboard is warping near the defrost vents.
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Great video, my 2010 has this very issue
bought mine 07 brand new and since i have replaced 4 third brake light, back when it first happened i just smelled it then saw the healiner. the florda sun dry rots them extremly quick (3 years or so) before they rack and leak
FordTechMakuloco whats up buddy... i have a cuestion.! i have a 2004 triton 5.4 ford f150 ... i have a problem when is running at 4 gear..! it make a noise, sound like a kick and it does one or two times during acceleration you know... i dont know if is transmission or somthing else..! by the way awesome vidios...!
Duragloss works better
My 2010 is leaking for there too thought it was the sides towards the back doors
Another awesome video. People like you are what make TH-cam great.
Thanks!
Absolutely
Thanks again, I ordered the light and cleaner last week. Changed the light yesterday and cleaned the headliner tonight. All went well. It's raining tonight so that will be the test.
Nice!
SaltLife no leaks,
Seems this is a common leak point for trucks from the Big 3 manufacturers. Glad to see that there's an updated part for these trucks.
have you ever come across the 2 rubber pieces on the left and right rear corners leaking water into the cab?
Thank you. Waiting on my parts now. 2010 F150 here. Your video is a great help.
Thanks!
Should be a recall period. I've never had a leak in my 2009 that I am aware of....but now I have to wonder if it's just been a small one all this time.
Just reseal it to get ahead of it...
Awesome tip on the headliner cleaning. I'm due to get my hands on a new-to-me C-Max soon that I know has some mild staining on the headliner and this will come in really handy.
Great video as always! You can also use distilled water and a clean white cloth. Saturate the towell, then wipe the area. Then use a hair dryer to dry. Has worked great on mine 2 times now!
Thanks for this. I had an unknown water leak and someone pointed out the stains in my grey headliner. I thought it might be related to the rubber strips with rivets on each rear exterior side but this is most likely the answer. I have a 2013 model and have never changed or checked this.
On my ‘10 F150 it ended up being the rear window that was leaking. On the top left I could clearly see a gap in the seal. When I put a water hose up to it my headliner immediately got left. Fixed it with Flowable Silicone. No more leaks or wet headliner!
I don't have the water showing on my 2013 AF-150 headliner but in the light has all kinds of moisture .... maybe I should replace it before it does leak?
I had this issue with my 2010 and it rusted my cab corners out. I was a few days past the 5yr corrosion warranty by the time it achieved the "rust through " required by Ford and then Ford denied my claim and I had to pay out of pocket to fix it. Not sure how this hasn't ended up as a recall or in court as a class action lawsuit. Good to know there is a replace to to fix the issue and also how to get the stains out of my headliner. Be ordering both soon. Thanks for the tip on cleaning the headliner!
Wow . . . That's why my cab corners rusted out. That really pissses me off! Agree . . . Should have been a recall!
@@SuckerPunchT10recalls are only for safety issues.
I am very disappointed in the Ford F-150, I bought a used 2005, constant fixing!. Thanks for your videos!.
You are a money saver!.
Same here. Biggest automotive regret of my life, and I am old! Ford Motor Company is a trash outfit now. They have lost my business for life! Should have bought a GM.
Glad I figured out any/all possible leaks ahead of time, sliding rear glass will also leak.
Heard that leak can drain down and contribute to the rocker panels rusting out. I know water gets in when I wash it but didn't know it was this easy to change it. Thank you.
I can 100% agree with you my inner and outer rockers are clean my cab corners are shot and I honestly believe that that was the culprit to my corners rusting
yep, my corners on my 2014 are turning brown (rust) and the bubbling! Sad!
Nice to see you go the extra mile and clean the headliner to like new condition and not just repair the cause.
+DJ R I am just used to doing the complete repair at the dealer is all but it sure does make it like New again!
The Motorcraft product worked great following the videos instructions. Thanks,
hello friend..and neighbor.... i hope you don't mind me commenting.. as far as stains along inside of headliner.. i used damp rag (wringed out) and put some Shout Laundry spray stain cleaner on it.. and wringed it out again... just a few sprays on the rag.. and wiped all along line...(totally cleaned it within an hour it was dry and gone)... just a thought... thanks for the video!
Just bought a brand new ford light assembly on eBay. I don't have the leak yet on my 2011 (I do have the old style light) but want to swap it out before it starts to leak! Read all over online forms that this is a common issue. I figured stop it before it starts!
cost me 154.00 but I did it today after watching your video! thanks, my cab corners are starting to rust and bubble from the inside and the lamp would fill with water each time I washed it (added led lamps while I was in there), but no headliner stains, Thanks for the info!!!
Hi. Thank you so much for being here!💗👍I have a 1997 Ford Escort and there's a water leak and it pools in the right rear area. It's the area where the wrench for turning your lug nuts if you have a flat tire. The little indentation and it's filling up with water is there a way that I can figure out where it is coming from and how to stop it? Thank you so much for any and all help!💗
Had the same leak on my 2008 Superduty. I sure wish ford would sell the gasket without the light. I fixed mine by pulling off light, cleaning all surfaces, and using some RTV to form a gasket. Back seat is dry as a bone now.
Could you show how to replace the P roof drip molding and dust cover on a 2004 4.5 super cab thanks for all the video!
This video is gold. Now I'm going to get the OEM replacement and the cleaner. instead of the aftermarket junk.
Had no idea that there was an "updated" version of the light, let alone headliner motorcraft headliner shampoo. Thanks for the video
I had that leak on my e 350 van would drip in rear,remove clean and used rv putty tape,worked great,never caulk or silccone,if you have to change bulb you are in for a fight.
Had this issue on my '04 F150 and my current '09 F150. Thankfully I caught it both times before it stained the headliner. Replaced the light on my '09 a couple years ago and went with a recon light instead of oem. The dealer wanted $250 for the oem light and I didn't trust it was going to be any better than the one I was replacing. The recon had a much thicker gasket and was less than $90 when I purchased it.
How's that Recon Holding up? I just had this leak issue this weekend, due to all the the recent rain.
I just fixed my 2014 f150, the recommended part did not solve the problem, this gasket compressed paper thin. I appreciate you videos especially the ones relating to f150"s.
mine was leaking from roof panel meets back window , had to take back window out and they had to double caulk to fix . Same symtom head liner stained same as the third brake lite.
Great video, that cleaner looks to be awesome stuff. I have a 14 F150 that had that problem, and even the new cover and gasket didn't fix. I ended up making my own gasket out of 3/4" outdoor weather stripping from HD, hasn't leaked in over 2 years now. The new gasket Ford uses is very porous, and actually absorbs water like a sponge instead of repelling it. The 15 and up F150 appear to have the same brake light assembly, have you seen any water issues with the new body style?
My 16 leaks
I just noticed a leak in my 16 that I have had since new
My 15 leaks
Right on i have the same problem but it drips only, and my ford is a 99 thanks for the tips
Is there any link between the leaking brake light and cab corners rotting out?
This! I have the same question.
i thought my 2010 was leaking around the 3rd brake light, but after replacing it i found out it still leaked water at the top left of the glass from inside.turn's out it was the seal around the outer edge of the back glass that was the gremlin, the corner had slide out of place,replacing it was easy, so you might consider a video on that issue if you have the time. a $15 roll of 3M 3/8" window sealant fixed her right up with plenty of tape to spare,plus in an afternoon your good to go,tho cleaning the old sealant off is a big pain lol
HotRod9967 Same with my ‘10. I used Flowable Silicone along the seal. Can’t see it at all and hasn’t leaked since. 👍🏻
Nice Video. I have a 2004 Ford f150 crew cab. I removed the third brake light and put silicone around it. It stopped the leak on the side of the floor on rear passenger and driver side where the door is at for a while. Now the rear seats is getting wet. Could it be leaking from the roof channels or the rear back windows seal?
the 2004-2008 can develop a leak on the passenger side under the kick panel and carpet edge molding/trim. (could be confused with a firewall A/C drain leak) Water sets in the channel and rots the floor near the kick panel (low spot where the wiring lays). Reseal the floor inside and underneath the cab. (floor grommet located on bottom side, under passenger right foot area, will rot-out and lets water sneak between sheets of steel floor) check behind the fuse panel area on the passenger side too. (There is a grommet there as well as the wiring connector from the door could leak).
Also, front fenders may have gunk/old leaves etc building up at the bottom ...open door slightly to see into bottom of fender...spray with hose until it clears. (fenders may not be related to the interior leak but while you're down there...) Use POR15 quart can with a brush for floor and wiring channel.
Robnation I sure am glad I found your comment on this video. I hear water sloshing around in my passenger floor board. Will be checking all this stuff you mentioned tomorrow. I’ll let you know what I find.
@@davidshockley2383 It seems to happen more often with the nose is low (backed into driveway) Check your 3rd tail light but you may want to buy some new bulbs prior to sealing it. Good luck! (I was considering putting a plug with a drain tube in the passenger side channel (pull up the wiring channel near the front door) There is a plastic plug there already.
Just changed mine out with a new factory fixture. Thanks for all the advise!!!
Tried that 4 months ago and it leaks too!! Reaching for the clear silicone now!
Are there different 3rd break lights for trucks with tow/haul options or down hill control options
Great info by the way thanks !!
My 2010 F150 has shown leakage this year (2021) during the monsoon season in New Mexico. I did the antenna fix a couple of years ago and should have addressed this issue at that time, now I have to deal with the water stains.
My 2016 f150 has the same issue already and is out of warranty, Ford really needs to re design this 3rd brake light/seal to better keep water out. My cargo,puddle,tailgate,bed lamps also have a mind of their own and turn off and on all day and night I wonder if this is related..although I suspect the switch it the bed is the reason for this...
Your videos are great 👍
Nice vids you have going, boy I'd be pissed having a 80k any kind of truck leaking like that and causing a issue
I just changed mine to an aftermarket smoked light and a few things are different. It was a pain to pull off the rear pushpins for headliner inside cab even with the panel prybar to access the connection point of wire to plug in the new light. there is a pushpin holding the cable/connection point to the truck that is put in from inside the cab. I decided to just pop the pushpin out from outside the truck through the brake light hole and just not secure that back down and the job was much easier and I didn't have to go find the right color headliner pushpin if I broke it getting it out or risk damaging my headliner.
This Video help me so much to fix my F-150.....You got one more subscriber here
Gracias Mr Makuloco, you are amazing.
I just see that issues on my 2014 you the best i always wacth you videos tanhk you so much sir
Is there any carry over from the 3rd brake light assm. to have similar stains to appear on the a-pillar too or do I have another leak somewhere? Perhaps the front windshield seam/seal?
Great informational video as always, thorough explanation. Thanks
The look on your face when plugging those bulbs in! Haha Brian you crack me up! I just had to splice my new third brake light in. Got to love aftermarket!
Hey can you give details on the splicing job done ?
First, thanks for all your videos. Extremely helpful. Best out there. Second, do you have a link for the gasket that you’d recommend? My light is fine. The gasket is deteriorated but still not leaking. I did put a aftermarket light that leaked so I’m trying to go back to oem & replace gasket
I have read that some of the newest gen F150's, 2015+ CHSML's have been melting from excessive heat. Have you seen one of those yet Brian? Whats the fix if you have? Good vid
Mine on the interior has, and it's leaking now. I am ordering a new one currently.
my 02 explorer had the 3rd light leak, which caused a few of the lights to short and melt. I also had sunroof leak I just used air to free it up.
First, I appreciate all you videos. As opposed to buying a new third brake light cover, why not just use a bead of silicone caulk on the inside and outside? The brake light covers aren't cheap and what's to prevent it happening again? Heat gun should help remove silicone when it's time to change brake lights, right?
Have you ever had to replace the third brake light wiring harness that melted where the bulbs screw into the sockets?
I have this issue on my 2000 ford expedition 4.6L V8 Triton XLT and I'm trying to figure out how to do this but I'm getting different answers and some say that area has to be sauntered.
Any advice from anyone would be appreciated for this newbie female diy mechanic.💅🏼😊
Dude thank you so much for this video!
I had already suspected an issue with the light as the previous owner had done a grade school level of silicon sealing it with Black RTV , including the crack on top of the light. I've had the truck about a month now. I took the truck out today in the rain and saw water come from the center of the headliner / windshield area onto the dash , I suppose braking could cause it to flow to the front ? Wondering if you could make a gasket from door seal material ?
I have a 2013 Superduty with inoperative fog lights. I've verified the fuse, indicator on the headlight switch illuminates. Even tested the bulbs. Have you encountered fog lamp relay failures in the body control module?
I have a 2011 with no visable signs of leakage. Is this something that should be done regardless?
I've also heard that this could be a cause of the cab corners rusting. Any truth to that?
Can you please tell me which spark plug i should use in a 1997 f-150 with the 4.2? can't find the original p/n, thanks
These are the latest plugs for your engine from Motorcraft- amzn.to/2nKzo9z
Great video.. but I have a leak coming out of the bottom passenger pillar screw cap.. I check the third brake light seal and it not leaking . I removed the third brake light and stuffed a dry paper towel right behind it. Then I waited for it to rain . I live in the northwest so I didn't have to wait long. Sure enough my pillar leaked. I checked the towel the next day and it was dry as a bone. Next I pressurized the can by turning on the HVAC to recirculate and put my compressor hose in on full blast and shut the door. After that I made up some thick suds and went around all my exterior seals including all window. No bubbles ! I can't find a leak to save my life. Any suggestions ?
Safe lite was out to replace my windshield today and pointed out my rear window leaks. The stains are very faint and hard to notice without a flashlight. However, in want to fix it. Is that all it usually is, just the center brake light? He told me it's also the rivets or something under the weather stripping on both sides of the cab.
I never saw you mention the Focus hatchback body panel leaks. Old gen and new gen have same issues. Body separation from hatch weight. Seems to have been kept hush even though it's common.
What about the water the got inside? Does it mostly get soaked up by the headliner? Had my ranger parked for winter just noticed small stain... wondering about Rust obviously
I did a temporary fix on my old third brake light The rubber gasket foam was no good I cleaned it up as best as possible I put a bunch of marine grease underneath Try not to put too much because it’ll run out on your paint when it’s raining
Yes ! Definitely !!! My 2010 F150 , STX super cab headliner looks just like that !!
When did the revised gasket come out? My 04 had a leak repaired under warranty, I wonder if it has the revised gasket or if I should replace it to prevent it coming back.
Just had this leak happen on my 2013. Great video, thanks for the info! Gonna order an LED, cheaper than OEM.
Thank you sir. 2015 that just started leaking. glad i found this!
same here. hoping this is the problem and its only a 12 dollar fix. are your floorboards soaked too?
It seems like you like pennzoil pure plus?
I tried to replace my lights earlier on my 2012 but the light housing is stuck on should I use a pry tool to try and get it off
Any fix for the fog lights that keep blowing up in the 2004 F150? Thanks for all the videos.
I cannot get the housing to be flush with the truck, I bought an OEM replacement, I think the lack of a 3rd screw in the middle is also a problem. I may go get some transparent caulk and do a bead around the seal.
hey i have a ford f150 and the wind took my door today and it banged hard fully open. now when I close my door it bangs hard. it seems that it knocked my door up and the latch that's on the truck hits on the bottom part of the door catch. Any suggestions on how to fix
Something bent for sure the hinges just don't move out of adjustment the striker and latch don't move much at all for adjustment. It is best to just have a body shop align it by moving the hinge mount point.
I'm looking to adjust myself where should I adjust. I don't think I should adjust the striker BC when it's closed all ceases line up perfect. it's only off by probably 1/8" tops. anyway u can post alittle video of how to adjust. I can't find anything on utube. it doesn't hit very hard but it's not perfect.
tks Trevor
Also had this problem with a Ranger.
I noticed that my 3rd brake light has some green crap on the inside of the light and I am wondering if it has been leaking into my headliner as well. I have a black headliner and would not be able to tell without touching. I would think I would know since it rains 8 to 9 months a year here in Washington state and there would be some tell tale sign of an issue. I will check this out if it stops raining.
On black head liners I would still see white rings or stain lines. Water ingress in the light fixture is common it doesn't mean the outer seal is also leaking.
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I just checked it out and it's nice and dry.
This leak is also sometimes the rear window Butal seal. on mine it had shrunk leaving the same symptoms. Best to runs water on the cab and test the Seal and the Break light.
About the only problem our service truck at work hasn't had out of the list of problems with that gen of ford truck has had. I think you said there had been issues in the wiring to the cam sensors on the 5.4. like to see a diagnose video as the CEL has been on about 3 years for cam sensors and replacing them didn;t help.
Do the screws on the lights need individual seals?
So replaced the back light the gasket that it came with was I would say kinda thick but I can't remember but it still leaks from somewhere any other ideas
Ford really does make some of the best OE branded chemicals.
My 2011 leaks at the corner through the black trim piece on the top corner of the roof have you seen that before? How wouldI fix that.
my 08 dome light didn't wor,k, so I took it apart and found moisture stains and rust of the electrical contacts inside the Dome light fixture. I'm wondering where did the water come from ? My headliner looks ok ... could it have been the same reason ? the exterior brake light ?
My 2014 and now my 2015 F250 third brake light housing is allowing rain water to get in. Is there a similar fix or am I just stuck with using a gasket maker to the seal the housing against the truck body.
Any experience with water leaks with a 2018 F250? Mine leaks behind the kick panel while pouring water on the top corner of the windshield. Windshield is not OEM.
Silicone or butyl caulk would also seal up the poorly designed seal area.
This water leak has also lead to many a rusted out cab corner on many a F150.
I think designed that way on purpose, so they do not last as long as the older well built trucks.
And it is not just Ford, it is the way everything is engineered these days.
It’s called planned obsolescence
Would you happen to know if the 2011 Ford Escape and Ford Explorer use the same size third brake light?
Hey Boss!! Just got a 2010 f150 and it's leaking at the passenger holy sh$& handle. Found a forum that said it's either the third brake light (your video is appreciated) also could be the sat antenna. Do you happen to have a video for that as well?
So I’m currently at this problem. I just ordered a new 3rd light from Ford and installed it. Went outside after the rain last night and it was dry. Curiosity got the best of me though and I poured a 5 gallon bucket with probably 3-4” of water in it on the roof and it started leaking just like before. What is the problem? What’s my next step?
rear window seal?
How many cans of cleaner did it take for the two applications?
Just one half of a can.
Is it possible that this issue is causing water build up between the cab and the “outer shell” of the cab? I can’t think of a better way to ask this question. I can hear water sloshing around when I turn and it sounds like it’s in the floor of the truck.
Will the cleaner work on black mold?
I literally went through this 6 months ago for my 2010. Funny how the OEM seal was only about 1/8" wide and all bunched up when they installed it at the factory.
Is there a way to order thicker gaskets/weather strip, I have upgraded my lights to LED and the Manufacture of those used the 1/8 specs for gasket seal.
Amazon has a thicker gasket available
I appreciate your response thanks. Would it called third brake light gasket lmao. I have been using air conditioner weather stripping and I would need to replace it.
why are the rivets at the top corners of truck??? What is the purpose of the molding rivet strips?
Not but a couple weeks and my new OEM 3rd brake light from the ford dealer leaked. this time not just inside the fixture .
I have a different leak my 07 Ford F-150 Driver side floor board. I don’t know if it’s from the rain or from my heater or evaporator AC unit ???
Great video FordTechMakuloco Keep them coming.
loving the channel keep up the good work kind of off topic here, wondering what is the best and easiest to use j2534 pass thru device.I'm looking to purchase one.
The pass through device is usually passive its the scanner software that makes a difference. I use the VCM 2 pass through from Bosch.
You rock!!! This was very helpful, thank you.
15s have this issue? understand they are new and probally dont. but did they change design?
I would check to see it takes less than a minute if it has a thick strip of foam around light. i had to clean my 2014 a few weeks ago because I got some dirt in the light there's almost no foam!
I have not heard of any yet I know they have many other body fitment issues though.
Yes they do. Doors our of alignment. And my particular 15 f150 ecoboost has a very annoying vibration that resonates through the gas pedal and steering wheel but only at around 2500 to 3000 rpms. Almost like a grinding at right at.shifting rpms. Dealer installed new gas pedal with no fix. Its not a deal braker but sucks to deal with. They recommend loosing engine mounts and let engine settle then retighten. Weird thing is it is only bad over 60 degrees and warmed up. Cold engine cold temps no vibrqtions at all.
Same here. My rear dont dont close to good unless the windows or another door is open. Sealed cabin is what i assume. Plus my dashboard is warping near the defrost vents.