The REAL Reason Riot's MMO is Set Up for Success
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After 2 years of production, Arcane was canceled by the higher-ups because the story wasn't good enough. So they threw more money at it, the writers started over from the beginning, and 4 years later, we got a masterpiece of a series.
Side Note: This temporary pause in production is also the reason Fortiche had time to create KDA's "Popstars" video - currently sitting at a casual half a BILLION views.
And "Rise" as well, that sitting at a third of a billion views.
Who ever make that decisión need a raise.
yeah i respect RIOT honestly for this type of practices they don't really care about if they lose money or not on a project if it's not looking up to be good commercially and would probably ruin their brand because they produced a half ass product they'd rather just scratch it and start over than get a short term cashout and probably bad reviews so just their history of them not wanting to produce mediocre sht and is willing to redo entire projects just so they can upgrade the quality is respectable already
@@Mezha07 They did it with their other game, too. Initially LoR was supposed to be closer to what MoTG was. But after seeing the success of HS, they scrap the whole game and started from scratch using HS as an inspire
@@dieptrieu6564 It's still not getting any new updates tho², after the initial shock & awe and "honeymoon" phase(the events & freebies phase), no one's excited to play it nor in a rush. The ones benefited the most from it are content creators due to people's curiosity.
²(at this time of writing, 5 mos already)
As a LoL veteran who plays league casualy, the more Necrit talks about the MMO the more i am hyped. Thank you!
Me too I am excited about the mmo I hope you can use Ahri❤
@@animeloveralqattan295 my bet is that you won’t be able to play characters from League, but you can make your own after your favorite
@@jthomofficial8968 thanks for the info
@@animeloveralqattan295 it definitely isn’t confirmed, so take it with a grain of salt. It just makes more sense from a gameplay perspective to have the players create their own characters for the adventures, which is how most MMO games operate
You must be really fucking hyped
Riot cannot complaint about you, you make a lot people get interested in lol's lore and give them ideas for their biggest project yet. Even the rants to give voice to our complaints.
Also, Riot can have a good laugh those times when Necrit gets something wrong :D
Agreed. I know a few voices on Riot's side have expressed... concern, in the past. Concern with Necrit's tendency to portray things somewhat inaccurately or jump to conclusions, but he's honestly gotten a lot better with that and I attribute most of it to him being ESL. At the end of the day, I'm sure every game company would love to have a creator like Necrit who's deeply passionate about their product and can reach a wide audience and share that passion. Riot defiantly appreciates the man- they gave him a character in one of their games after all! That's one of the coolest things that can happen for any gamer, we dream of having stuff named after us.
Necrit does tend to get carried away and gets too emotional at times, but he does so because he is passionate.
I would not get too concerned about no lore content though. There are many ways to experience Runeterra now. Not everyone who loves Runmeterra enjoys playing League of Legends, so with these many game genres everyone can experience Riot's IP in their own way.
Also, going just by who Riot is looking for on their recruitment page, lore is still important. It is just not going to be the department running League of Legends that is going to drive the stories forward. And frankly, once the MMO comes out, I would be not surprised if there are retcons again
@@stcy000 Honestly I could see it being either years prior or years after League's main lore timeline, just to keep it easy and as few retcons with as most freedom as possible. They could go a lot of ways with it, but I believe after the issues with Ruination they have a lore document now to maintain and it shouldn't be a huge issue. A lot of their stuff is vague in League too, plenty of room to expand/go more in depth on parts and not mess anything up.
@@animagamer2 what is esl?
See you in 10 years when the MMO actually comes out
Or immagine it been as balance as lol is now
@@DiabloTommaso Or imagine making so many mistakes in such short comment 🙄
@@AppleBaron english is not my first language. Thank god i have your not judgemental comment helping me
I can wait
@@DiabloTommaso league if way better in a balance term then it was 4-5 years ago
RIOT's got an incredible universe ready to go man.
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@@jamester0772 Comment for Necrits dope ass video
When release?
@@cupidok2768 fall or winter 2023 maby
it's mid at best to be honest
I love how the entire reason riot exist, is just to say, "What if this game, but better"
And so far their track record is spotless
now let's talk about their balancing
@@Spyphotic shhh...
@@Spyphotic believe me its not that bad. The meta this season was more balanced than ever before. Well it no longer is as it is preseason lol
@@Spyphotic isn't league of legends the most balanced MOBA on the market?
These videos to fill the gap are still manage to be really high quality and interesting to watch somehow xD
Great work Necrit my man.
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Shout out to Mortdog though, he's an amazing dev who's intensely honest (within contract) about the TFT side of things. Thanks for the video Necrit!
i almost have a tear to my eye everytime he speak ,cuz he's the legend we need on everygame dev team
It would be crazy if some of the really popular skin thematics were used as alternative reality raids in the game, but I don’t see that happening. Like a PROJECT or PENTAKILL raid as like dlc later down the line
why not? FF 14 already does that for example with nier automata raids
I can totally see that, may not at release, but for seasonal events or something similar this could be a big idea
Or a star guardian themed raid, that's what I'd really like to see
Fck. Dark Star raid would be so fckng cool man..
Maybe after the regions are fleshed out (or during), they could add portals that lead to these alternate universes to explore and fight
It could also just be a simple dungeon in the other reality
Imagine special event dungeons where you dwell into Dark Star, KDA, PROJECT, etc world, fighting some theme enemies and such. Unlock some project skin by completing it. Would be damn sick!
FFXIV has raids like that for example nier. Would love to see that in the riot mmo
@@rajder656 yeah but FF XIV is monthly p2p, considering there is a chance this is f2p, there is a rather high chance they won't give out free skins just like that
@@fitmotheyap have they confirmed if its f2p? 100%? cus I could totally see them going the same way where like first 10-20 levels are free then costs a monthy cost(and later on releasing expansions for totally free like ff14
@@d4s0n282 no explicit mentions that it's going to be f2p, but knowing riot, it's high probability that it's going to be free based on their history, which is what necrit was talking about.
Id perfer it if not
no way a full rune page T3 was only 6-7k, i remember filling 1 page for like 20-30k shit was ludicrously expensive. a single T3 quint alone was 1-2k depending on the rune
thank god they gave us our things back once it got removed, i was rich asf when it happened :D
I think it was 1320 IP for T3 quints and 920 for the normal T3 runes
the rune page alone was about 11k if i remember correctly
I feel like this mmo is a very crucial milestone when it comes to the future of mmo in gaming history. if it flops, game creators might be scared into creating mmo's in the future, hence not much mmos might be created and it will be scarce. but if it is a huge success, it will inspire more mmo games to be created, it will act as a beacon and will create a ripple kind of effect
yeah their thought process is probably "if an IP this big flops its better to not even try"
Counter point: ffxiv. The mmo that proves that mmos are still wanted and that an mmo won't always die within an year or two and even grow if you actually put in some effort.
@@dlcyKing haven't even heard of it lol. it's a classic game for old gamers that likes og mmos I reckon. what i'm portraying about is the future market of the mmo's, the younger and future generations. there will always be og old classic players that loves mmos, but sooner or later they'll either be too busy to survive life or eventually die. huge game companies target younger audiences anyway, hopefully to pique their interests on mmos, since most of the young peeps didn't experienced classic 90's or 2000's mmos anyways and play other genres
@@asura3955 i mean, ffxiv average age is like 22~25. Mmos are way too slow of games compared to fast games like fortnite and league so the very young audience won't naturally have interest in them. And the old school style of WoW will also simply die out, as it's more of a second job than a game. If riot makes an mmo of that type, it's dead. Just dead.
@@dlcyKing oh yeah now I get what you mean. riot really have to pull off this mmo then. or else the future of the gaming genre is at stake. hopefully it can spark a new generation of mmo players.
20:13 I'm pretty sure it was actually 2, not 3, unless incredibly early on they gave everyone a third one, because I vividly remember how much time I spent saving up ip to buy a page for tank runes
You definitely started with only two. I remember saving for a while and making the tough decision to forgo buying Darius when he was released for my third rune page
@@codyraboin6996 I remember starting more less when vlad was released, these times were so good dude. And then I was using these special Halloween Runes for the big ones cuz they were cheaper but almost as good.
they gave only 2 pages for starters I know that because I only played ad champions I used one attack speed page and one flat ad page
@@blomgrumthebossoftheriot4944 AS ad twisted fate was bomb yo
@@tanakathecowboy ah yes I remember the “tier 2.5” stuff they put out for events. Good times for sure, though it took me far longer than it should’ve to realize that building three bloodthirsters on chogath wasn’t the best idea lmao
I remember using a twitch free trial just to get toxitorium arena in TFT, it was just too good, they know what they are doing with their cosmetics.
Another thing is how good it feels to get free skins seemly at random, you often get things you don't want but when you get something amazing it feels even better than buying it
I definitely agree with what you said. I remember the time when I got my 3 Ultimate skins just from the loot box and re-rolls. I definitely didn't expect anything above rare skins or even some legendary. Imagine my surprise when I heard that distinguishing sound of an Ultimate skin popping out. It's one of my best League experience.
Ghostcrawler covered this topic in the interview.
The East (Korea, China, Japan and a few other countries) internet games mainly operate out of Internet Cafes, as such in those countries it is NOT pay to win but considered a more pragmatic thing, as needing to grind 100h fro an unlock when you have to pay $1/hr for game time makes it more economical to buy the unlock for $40 flat fee.
It is a point that is foreign to western countries where a lot of internet access is either free or unlimited for a nominal fee.
One thing I do think would have been cool to mention is that the multiverse is essentially canon in league with the new skin line with Pyke as well as Pulsefire confirming as such (also Darkstar where the darkstar entities have infected 2 universes not their own). So we could have "Summoned Rift" events so to speak where we get raids or dungeons which lead into alt universes and they would make sense within the lore c:
Its going to be amazing seeing people coming from every riot game once that mmo is announced/released!
Legends of runeterra players do have a bit of the upper hand though since we get to see a more in-depth league with all the card art designs! Cant wait to see what happens in the future! :)
I remember playing LOl back when Zack first released and the grind for runes and championship was awful, I started playing again a couple of months ago and it's so much better, you don't have to buy runes and you earn blue essence way faster plus on top of that you can earn skins for free at a reasonable tempo. I'm almost completely sure that monetization in the MMO will be fair.
Runes :'( fuck those
Their mmo will definitely be a success.
When the wind is slow and the fire's hot the vulture waits to see what rots
@@obvilivionhdee2301 thankyou confucuius
We need more Riot MMO content like this one
I really love how Riot is actually being careful and aware about how they monetize things, unlike other big game companies(cough..cough actiblizz cough..). I hope they never change who knows they might get a cashgrabbing CEO like Bobby Kotick in the future and then there are none :( Never change riot, it does not go unnoticed.
Thats nice to see a company actually carring more about releasing a finished game than releasing a game on schedule that is incomplete (looking at you activision)
I hold their Transformers games with some sense of nostalgia, however not enough to ignore their flaws
Wish they would fck off garena out of wild rift so i would want to play it again because garena basically makes all the skins loot box exclusive and even label them legendary even tho theyre not and actually makes skins at least 2 times more expensive
@@demonkil6283 wild rift is not handled by garena
@@diamondcrafter78shane68 in the east it is thats why its not very popular there
@@demonkil6283 Bruh I literally live here in the east. It's not handled by Garena. Wild Rift is run by Riot themselves
I really enjoy this video, but I wish you covered the battle pass for Valorant. It has absurd amounts of value when it comes to shooters. Getting around 5 weapon skins including a unique melee for just 10 dollars. Let alone giving players a free weapon skin at the end of the battlepass. So it's still possible for anyone can acquire a skin no matter their budget. Valuing time and money.
I'd agree but to me Valorant's BP is the grindiest of them all.
I literally had Rainbow Six Siege, Apex Legends, Valorant and Genshin Impact BPs at the same time, and I spent the most time on Valorant, but I still finished the other 3's BP before Valo.
The one thing people forget to point out with of the things that could come into Riot's MMO is that aside from Riot's Modus Operandi of Free to Play and Cosmetic Monetization, is for the most part the grind is fucking real. Riot is literally just a tier - naye they are THE tier below Korean MMO grinding - Sure I think Runeterra isn't as bad as the rest but dear lord.
If this ever happens, does anyone know if this will work on Mac? Riot games doesn’t seem to be for it or against it. Although League and TFT works on Mac, Valorant and Legends of Runeterra doesn’t have Mac support.
I don't think THEY know if it will run on Mac yet lol
Just buy a better PC a real one maybe
dude, 300 dollars PC can run any riot's game, if you can afford mac im sure you can afford that
@@kharismanando9051 my brother plays valorant on a patato pc and Im not joking
When you showed the runes pages I got hit by a truck of ptsd
we all know the real reason. its already confirmed to have fishing. thats all i need to know really
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14:45 Shoutout for Risk of Rain 1 soundtrack (Chris Christodolou - Monsoon)
I'm learning game development, I have to disagree on the "polygons" that's not ingame/inmatch, usually those polygons inmatch are way lower cause you can't zoom in anyway to check the said "polygons", it's called LOD(Level of detail) just youtube "Unity LOD". Sometimes they're even just billboards, just youtube "Unity billboards"
as a league and mmo veteran it feels like christmas every time you see yet another necrit pop up in your notifications. thank you so much for the videos and for fueling my copium tank time and time again!
Dude i forgot about the old rune pages, i don't remember it was that bad but it was a long time ago.
I'm not a LoL fan, because I don't like moba games in general, but I always liked the aesthetics of the characters and I find the lore quite interesting. After watching your videos about the mmo i'm really hyped about it and can't wait for it to be released.
this is going to end up like another lost ark flash in a pan and good night
I think Necrit could've highlighted Riot's actions in regard to poorly received Montezied Content a bit more. He mentions Eternals in the end, but not the 2nd Series that was just released. I also think they revised their strategy around Chromas heavily after community backlash.
When Daddy Necrit mentioned runes. Nostalgia hits me and the one percent crit rune on tryndamere running in my mind hitting 5 crits at level 1 without charge keeps on playing.
God. I remember getting 30-40 magic penetration at like 7 minutes on zilean support. Good times.
thinking about ancient runes gave me fckin ptsd dude, it was the worst time to play as you could either had the champs you wanted, or good runes, it was so frustrating and when they talked about the new runes it was such a relief.
Anyway good content as always, waiting even more this mmo after each of your videos
If this mmo is what I think it is it will be my main game to play then
Necrit the more you post about RIOT MMO the more I get excited and hyped. I know this game will probably be released after more than 2 years, but oh god you keeping us updated and just talk about the RIOT MMO it makes me feel so much better. The wait is worth it and we will finally get into the game and have an absolute best experience ever. Thank you Necrit
what a massive blast to the past with the old rune pages. lawrdy
I literally watched the 2 last ones in lunch and it feels like you said that left and then came 4 hours later talking about it again 🤣
i love how netcrit is using wildrift and legends of runeterra for skins showcase
If I worked at Riot, I'd also be interested in what people choose to unlock with currency they receive for free.
As someone who avoids spending money on League whenever I can, I put a lot of care into which skins I unlock for the ornage essence. I have a collection of skin shards I like stocked up, but only unlock the ones I want the most and disenchant the skins I know I don't like. That way I usually have enough OE to unlock any preffered shard I get.
Necrit, you're literally the Riot Lorekeeper.
Please lets make sure they immortalize you in every game, Necrit for Arcane When????
the skin lines can be like lost ark, every class (mages, warriors, assasins, fighters, etc) have skins per class and they release different skins for different events/ holidays. i can see them do this wtih league skins, a mage kda skin, doesnt matter if you are a bard , summoner, or sorcceress, they all share the the skin kinda.
I would love open rifts or just realm tears that lead to missions in an alternate skinline
its crazy to think that by earliest estimates I will be 23 when this game comes out (18 first semester of a 3 year Uni course)
I think they could also put some of the alternative worlds in the game for events or something like that.
Fun Fact:
The old "Pay for Power" Rune System was implemented into Pokémon Unite not too long ago. It wasn't there at launch, they actively added it in.
Sigh
Where did you get that sweater from? Its sick.
Every time necrit makes a mmo video I think of that meme where a farmer goes to milk his cow that's skinnier than a stick.
no idea if it's a good or bad idea since i don't play it but for legend of runeterra can't they make a 50/50 tournament ( where you put a said ammount in and if you win the tournament you get half and riot keeps the other half ) i feel like it would work like poker tournament or like seen in some MTG ones
I thought Necrit gonna mention Inferno with fire all around
It makes me excited to watch your videos in hopes for some reveal by riot
The eventpass in Legends of Runeterra is most super worth it. You can get 2 skins worth 20-40 € for 15€ amd a bunch of cards and extras like pets and bonus gems.
Hope we get to see a necrit npc in riot mmo too 😂 thanks for great work
Put him in the tutorial town asking you if you like to hear about lore of runeterra
I want he become npc Character that in tutorial camp/base
@@trashyplay6932 I WOULD SAY YES ( if my friend are up to listen 126h of lore explain)
The character with his name is basically canon and have a decent role in the lore, he's one of Viego's advisor and kalista's colleague. We have a good chance of seeing him, hopefully prayge.
Necrit NPC as a Bard telling stories would be good to see 😂
Man I have such high hopes for this. I've been waiting for what feels like an eternity for an new MMO that grows into what WoW was all those years ago. If this has massive success, I see WoW going free to play in order to compete.
Achievements part got me
I bought ruined king league of legends story and unfortunately it’s not working in PlayStation I connected the costumer service it’s still not fixed what I should do? Can someone tell me what to do?
i remember special runes from events bro like the razer rune
What's the OST playing around 20:00 ?
i liked the old runes added more diversity to the game and you can buy them with in game currency and this was before they had a daily cap on LP
would love to see some Odyssey stuff in the MMO as well, but sadly not likely probably
Oh god Runes is a blast from the past. Slapping Gold/second Quints in all 3 slots and buying 2-3 gold/sec items as support so buying wards didn't bankrupt you after lane phase.
Part of me misses them, but then the rest of me realized that part that misses them is insane.
The Eternals jab at the end was too funny 😂
I never understood complaints about skin prices or loot boxes (for skins) since its just cosmetic.
I cannot wait for the mmo to finally release. Every single one of your videos is flaming up the hype again and increasing it. I need it now! :)
I love the Space Goove Skin from Nasus. I mean its a little cute dog in a robot suit protecting the Groove. Its pure love
what if riot created a vgu poll for a limited month like for 3 months, wherein players get to vote what champion needs an update asap by buying skins, whomever champion gets the most bought skin/s, riot needs to update that champion asap. for example, chogath gets the most bought skin on that poll event duration, chogath would get updated asap
"everything past that would be pure theory crafting"
Ok, that sounds awesome. Id love to hear your theories, please continue
As a player that just got into League half a year ago, I wish that the grind was a bit more player friendly. For example I got dominated by Tahm Kench in the botlane 3 games in a row. Turns out all the champions I owned were either countered by him or really unfun to play, with me not owning any ranged toplaners and not experienced enough to play other roles toplane.
Are we gonna get a survival or sandbox game too? Not sure if this would fit, but would be interesting to see.
If they make weapons in an MMO similar to weapons in a shooter and they're composed of tagged parts. They could sell cosmetic weapon customization. Like making your blades edge crimson. Adding a dangly keychain thing at the butt of the sword. Particle effects on the swords attacks.
Every MMO has tried to introduce balanced skill trees, unfortunately one usually stands above the rest in the case of min/maxing. What if instead of a skill tree to offer customization. You could buy things that makes your Knight class have animations that make them feel more like a berzerker with the exact same kit as a knight.
Or I could be an Ice mage instead of a generic mage?
Where can I get that amazing jumper ?? Please, pretty please
Let´s go boys more Riot MMO content!!!
On the discussion about pay2win, I remember seeing a phrase somewhere on a Riot blog post back on the old forums saying they don't sell power in the game, and I sent them an email right after Darius's release, quoting said phrase, and asking them why didn't they give Darius for free to everyone because of how OP he was, and that some people were ahead of others by simply having the champion and being able to play it. Fun times
18:25 There are also pick order shenanigans. You might want to secure a highly-picked champion for a teammate if you're early in pick order. This isn't possible if your teammates early in pick order don't own the champion in question. They would need to secure it and then trade for the less contested champion you presumably pick for them.
I'm glad you brought up runes and rune pages. It's crazy to ignore their existence while you preach Riot's monetization model history. A lesser thing that could've been brought up is how some skins are banned in pro play but aren't in ranked play. Some of that is due to competitive integrity no doubt.
I lowkey miss the build your own rune page era of League, It's probably for the best that it's gone but damn i wish we could go back to that time for a bit.
Just by having Twitch Prime, I can get Prime Gaming Capsule each month and get so many cool things. Thanks to the League's looting system, I gathered around 30 skins this year just by playing occasionally and opening the Capsule. I haven't spent a single dollar on League and got so much stuff. I'm pretty alright with Riot's monetization.
19:40 since I first started playing around early 2017, I mained Blitzcrank because I thought he looked cool, and the old Rune system was super confusing, but I thought "1% crit sounds funny, I'll take that in my tank setup". I will say, old Blitz E when it crit really hurt early game
as a person that enjoys collecting coop transmog..I really hope they will not sale expensive mogs... or none at all...
I didn’t even know there was a league card game.
I still think that it's better not to overhype the game.
Keep the expectations looooow
True. Though Riot has a...decent track record, an MMO is quite the gamble of investment.
I mean, the most recent, "anticipated" MMO is Blue Protocol, and that's probably not due until 2024.
Cyberpunk is the product of overhyped right?
i think hype is based on the person. he is kinda just talking about what riot has done in this video. even his other videos i wouldnt really call it hype
@@ghostsider001 Yeah. But not by players, instead it was overhyped by the marketing team
Ah yes, the iconic rune systems.. my attack speed Kayle was a monster back then.
I'm listing along and as soon as tft battlepass was mentioned i immediately was like "oh yeah I get that every single time bc I know I will complete it every season and get some cool rewards I actually want". As someone who played archeage for many many thousands of hours I am really hoping the new mmo catches me as much as that one did. I've always liked riots monetization for LoL and TFT (exclud eggs) so I'm def looking forward to it.
Bro I can already see a friend of mine visiting and although he'll see I have tons of games at different genres, he'll go "damn bro, do you have anything that ISN'T from Runeterran lore?!"
Having a perfectionist management team does delay a couple of things from being launched but dayum it launched with grace. like, polished AF bro
The fourth point is interesting, imagine if you will, purchasing a skin line that allows you to travel to the alternate universe...
Scarizard wos so funny, he used to do the patch notes. I think most ppl who read those back in the day knew his name.
Anytime you want to drop a video about Riot's mmo, I'll be here to watch it. :) Perhaps you can get someone at riot to share some concept art.
I would be glad to pay one time purchase for the game.
I dont really understand how skin payment in mmo works. I farm gear from dungeon and do the skins relate to specific gear sets?
i remember old runes in league, putting 1%crit and lifesteal, i won every lvl 1, 1v1 by just clicking
Well they better hurry up. This new season for the regular game plus the new “ behavioral updates” just forced people to create side accounts and be as toxic to THEIR OWN teammates like never before. I started playing since a couple weeks before shyvanna was released and I’ve never been so annoyed with the game… I really hope they hurry up with this and do it right so I can just swap over to the mmo
2 Things, Kiriko is the first Character that needed to be unlocked by battlepass where the Battlepass itself for complete need 73h of non stop playing so not even a week. 2. Right now Overwatch will be balanced in a way to make counter picking less impactfull so there won't be a sytuations where one team losses cause their Tank don't have the newes hero. There still will be soft counters like Reaper into any tank or Soldier into Pharah but that's it
19:04 My PTSD kicks in while my scoliosis hitting my back again lol
My build was just gold generation and 1 crit rune enemies keep wondering how the hell did I get an item so fast by passively playing on my lane
I wonder if skins like Project would break immersion in the MMO
Also in terms of Transmog/Glamour People in FFXIV absolutely adore their glamour slots. There is currently 20 slots in FFXIV, and Im thinking they could give 3-4 glamour slots for free and you could maybe buy more for a couple bucks a pop (maybe like how much an emote costs in LOR) and since the game is already free, I feel like more people would be more likely to buy glam slots
As a LoL newbie who plays League casualy, the more Necrit talks about the MMO, the more I am hyped.
at this point im convinced that necrit already know about the riot MMO that rito already approach him about it and he is just spilling the beans to us bits by bits.
I played 2022 LoL pretty active before I paused for 2023 now. In my active one year I got 65 Champions in total. Which means I unlocked more than one Champion per week without buying them or without spending money.
Oh god not the runes. You're giving me PTSD