What Some Champions Almost Became
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It's funny to think that Braum went from Kratos to the Pringles man
Forreal, he needs a proper Kratos inspired skin
The reson they didn't pick Braum in Demacia is... They didn't like Braum to bark orders at everyone. No i am serious.
Hahaha
power level didn't change.
@@catmomchantel technically Pantheon is League's Kratos
sooo crazy that Sylas almost looked like what Chamber ended up looking like
Had to scroll way too long to see any comment about this, I was starting to wonder if I was the only one seeing so many similarities with the design of Chamber
i tought i was the only one who saw it
yeah for a second i thought necrit just photoshopped chambers head for the thumbnail lmao. they look so similar. i wonder if it's just a coincidence or maybe the same person worked on both characters
I was wondering why Necrit didnt say anything about Sylas looking like Chamber
I wonder if there was inspiration taken FOR Chamber given it’s both Riot.
evil braum doesnt exist he cant hurt you, evil braum:
Braum is a Braum Moment, Though it would be an intersting turn around of how a character looks, But it wouldn't work for his story.
A dark magic mirror that summons an opposite character version would be cool. Braum would be so dark.
He stole a door
I can take evil braum , mustacheless braum on the other hand
@@MIDO44444 oh my god i cant even imagine that
The only thing I wish they did with Viego is to play into how his sword is an item sold on the Rift, and have it to where his weapon base-line is a spectral manifestation of his blade, but when he buys the completed item it becomes corporeal and has those original purplish colors on it. Or even the new darker tones of green that make it look less like a holo-blade.
yeah it would have been cool if they tied the item into his champ more, he just feels disconnected from that item weve had for so long
Like Saber from fate?
@@josemanuelrojas214 saber is hiding her sword with wind magic
I also expected something like that, maybe even comedic lines when he meets a champion who bought it like: Oh, so can everyone just get themselves a magic artefact carried by my family? People these days..
That was of course not really in character but I think you could have make it work.
Anyways, I think why they didnt do something along those lines is because they can never see if Viegos build might change. Eventho blade of course is a very popular item, you never know what's gonna happen
Its just the over decade old code
@@freezzer0019 He should say "They can all buy copies, but only I have the original!"
I really wish we could get the "Darkin Behemoth" some day.
WE COULD SEE IT IN LEGENDS OF RUNETERRA! since norra got released all cards are on the table!
@@Chickensea10 i dont want a JPEG as a consolation prize
@@makes58 pretty cool jpg though!
Maybe a Kaiju line to compliment the Mecha line?
@@dmsviola1 ooooohhhhhh that sounds dope!
Glasses Sylas was not entirely wasted as he was ported to Riot's other game; meet Chamber from Valorant.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who noticed that, I wonder what other concept art from league went to valorant.
I'd like to think that if Sylas ever gets an ultimate skin, they should implement the chain color concept into it. Maybe they could add that pet lizard too
It would be cool af but like Necrit mentioned, it would probably be incredibly annoying to maintain as you’d have to update and test him with every single future champion. Even Udyr’s skins didn’t demand such a long term maintenance commitment
Pulsefire Sylas PLZ. Could give him the glasses too.
@@Elemental-Phoenix While thats true, they already have to do this to some extent just because of his ult. Adding a ult color to each champ when they're added would be relatively easy, and is significantly less maintenence than what they already have to do for him anyway.
@@Elemental-Phoenix I mean, with the little knowledge i have of coding, and about how sylas works, there seems to be many ways to do it that arent specially hard, and if they are bothersome, its because of the many present champs not because of new ones. For exemple, as with the art shown, making all champs fit within a series of categories isnt really that hard, you just flag them in a category (which im pretty sure all champs are already flagged within a set of categories), pretty sure couldnt amount to more than a single line of code (thou in each champ), and then make sylas ult check that flag and set the appropiate color, new champs would be easier rather than anything, you just code the flag in right away. This is, thou, a very general solution, and riot knowing exactly how sylas already works, could probably come with an even simpler solution, like, i dont know, just adding an extra parameter to each ult sylas has coded in (since they doing that anyway) that just says what color it has to be, which also im pretty sure isnt even extra work if you already have to code an ult, the issue rather being retrocoding it in the present ults
@@miser2570 In my (very unprofessional and uninformed) opinion: the issue is less a matter of implementation and more a matter of future QA. For one, it's yet another thing they would have to test on a fairly regular basis to make sure it hasn't broken. Additionally, if they want to update the graphics of the effect at any point in the future, or add another category for whatever reason, they'd have retroactively test all his interactions all over again.
It's not that it's impossible or even really that hard, but in a game like League, with millions of interactions and possible bugs...is it really worth it?
Really sad to see Aphelios not mentioned at all
Aphelios had a bunch of different and unique early concepts, such as being looking like 'Braums evil brother', to a Demacian Ranger a la Quinn, or even a Zaunite 'Bard'
And even when they landed on the sleek Lunari look, his design, alongside his weapons, sister, and HUD went though many iterations
That final Viego concept art looks really COOL and BADASS.
Fromsoftware vibes
kinda wish they went with teh hecca demon look
Riot somehow managing to pick one of weakest designs they could. We know that armored Viego looked best, but other ones were good too and actually did not conflict much with already existing champs. They still settled on a design that does not make him in any way special compared to rest of champions in game, probably even more blank, because he is average pretty boy, they had to make his sword comically large so he would be distinct from someone like Yasuo
I just wish he had that kingly long white beard and then just make his skins hot ffs
@@mrszmatan2727 they seem to always end up with the least detailed ones. Especially kaisa with his armor instead of a jagged armor that actually looks like it protects her we got a very smooth condom suit :
The A in D.N.A just stands for Art, which encapsulates all art around a champion. This goes for their animations, sound effects, visual effects, 3d models and more.
Basically, the art team are there to create any palpable thing for a champion.
I know how excited you are to cover up the new Runeterra cards, like Xolaani and the World Runes, and I'm as hyped to see your video about it.
I really hope he's doing it. Its been a while since he made a video talking about LoR cards :(
dont forget about the giant darkin *Ballcocks*
Just so you know, "cover up" means "hiding something so people don't find out", the thing I assume you were probably going for was just "cover" without the "up"
Thumbnail Sylas be looking like Chamber if he was arrested for drug possession
Funny thing about jhin. The assassin sniper was first made for kindred until riot changed them into the death spirits and left behind the assassin sniper idea
The idea of urgot as a behemoth that slowly pulls you in is terrifying and amazing at the same time.
And I feel like it shows a way that urgots ult could have been so much cooler.
Honestly it is already one of the coolest abilities in the game
Theu already had it implemented, but it felt too clunky and took way too long, so they scrapped iy before release
Urgots ult pulling the enemy slowly sounds cool and terrifying but in-game that ult would suck balls fam
@@edrienmanzanero4081 not if it was implemented correctly, imagine fighting urgot and being unable to finish him off as he slowly pulls you in to your death, his entire kit could be built around it realistically, compared to now where we have mister walk in a circle and faceroll keyboard.
@@edrienmanzanero4081 or, what if, instead of an ult it was a passive where when you engage urgot the chain starts pulling you in, and all of urgots abilities are designed to make it hard for you to escape.
Honestly my favorite was concept art for Sylas. I can see that maybe the glasses, shirt, and sharp hair cut gives off the "high class" or manipulative type. While sylas was meant to be more of a devil, rugged but able to do his schemes (plus seen some trauma). But I love the idea of the collar chain being part of his shirt, like an insane asylum coat in some ways (also makes him look more like a high level demancian threat. Granted shirtless makes him look like an animal that demacia shoved in chains).
Spirit Blossom Sett also has the same kind of "spirit arms" as the "Vastayan Gangster Boss" Concept art
Well it gives me comfort to know that early concept Braum influenced K'sante. Both are big muscular men, but one used to wield two shields and K'sante wields tonfas taht in a sense kinda work as shields too. And the early monk braum vibes kinda translated into k'sante clothing. Having an Ionian monk with a big armor and robes using two blunt weapons or throwing shield would be awesome too
I love how you tell the story of League as a whole. You tell us the written lore and how these characters were created. Why we haven't gotten new gameplay content. Very cool.
It always feels like the concept art are better cause we're so used to looking at the champion in the game.
Heyo where your check mark mate?
That Viego concept art with Isolde's tombstone as his blade would make a great raid boss for the MMO.
IMO this concept is super boring. It's an another Morde who is boring as well. Only these the tombstone-sword and a black mist cape look really amazing and interesting.
The last Viego concept wieling Isolde her tomb somehow made me think about Guts 😂
I like Viego: He is truly the perfect little prince boy in his own eyes and that reflects so well.
Though to me, he never felt like the evil giant monster king that controls the whole of the shadowisles
He does not reflect what the Isles are and what the king of the Isles is. And he doesn't reflect his own character. His desire of returning his love is not reflected in him. He only has this odd hole-tattoo that didn't show anything. These concepts of Viego with roses at least show that he is a romantic. But in the end we have just a handsome shirtless guy dressed in ridiculous clothes (wtf are these little wings on his knees?) with a tattoo on his chest which we don't notice because of his 6 abs lmao.
This was very interesting i think you should make a second part and explore more monster champs because Tahm Kench,Volibear and Rek'sai have some amazing concept art
The idea of Viego wielding Isoldes tombstone blows my mind, but with or without the tombstone he should have been fully armored, yes he would look like Mordekaiser but why is that bad? I would now give the pretty boy Viego we have, for an armored knight.
The idea was to distingush him from Mordekaiser entierly but I agree that they should of taken Viego's design to other different direction.
It just occurred to me. Riot should have changed Viego's recall animation after the whole Ruination event or at the very least give him 2 separate recalls, maybe depending on how much health he has. To mimic when he's sealed away by the Sentinels and Gwen. idk, maybe it would've looked too much like Sylas
2:18 I mean considering how many hourglass pretty face champions are in the game to the point I sometimes cannot tell who the champion is from the skin unless I figure out the weapon, that's a big phat *X* to doubt.
The thing about Sylas' is that he's based on characters like Tain Long, Zaheer, Kratos, and Sagat; all of whom have been in solitary confinment.
Viego as a old bearded king wouldnt be boring at all imo. Would have really set him apart from the sea of other youthfull handsome lads running around on the rift
Yeah he doesn't fit the narrative but I don't like the new on either, they could've make him more "ruined" (messy hair and black eyes and burnt clothes or clothes ruined) and move the triangle hole thing to left side of his chest. He's og design feels too safe.
Riot: let's make it unique
Also riot: but everyone must be sexy no matter their theme design. Be it deer, lizard, undead, monster or demon.
At least with Bel"Veth they unironically went the anti-sexy route in comparison to her original concept art.
Kai'Sa though is an embarrassment of misplaced sex appeal.
@@oinkleberry you are the living embarrassment kiddo. Kaisa is way better design
Seriously kid cry about it
@@pokimane4389 the only crying I'm doing is crying-laughing at you 🤣
@@oinkleberry just like the doctors did when you were born. They were be like what a clown was born
9:28 - Not everything about glasses Sylas was scrapped. I can see the resemblance in Chamber - a Valorant agent - in his look on the left.
can we talk about how every iteration of seraphine in concept art is better than the one we got?
That is because Seraphine as an idea was always going to flop since she was just Belle Delphine ripping of Sonas kit to sell an ultimate skin
You can also argue that the Sett with floating arms was turned into his legendary skin, the Spiritblossom, with the spirits hanging around him turning into arms for some attacks
Also the only problem I have with Viego is that he has his chest and abs showing for seemingly only fan service purposes
I wish they used viego's four-armed concept design as a second phase in the ruined king game, like dracula from castlevania, wich was an inspiration. I actually agree with the decision of making him young and atractive, but they were a bit too shy and made his design undersell how powerfull he was supposed to be. Even in the novels, he has a second appearance where he uses a cloak made of mist and has a mad expression on his face with his perfect hair all messed up and covering his face. Shame...
Every time you put emphasis on the word "THESE" I was waiting for the ending to be "nuts"... for some reason 😂
What I'm getting from all this is what we start with really cool champion concepts then pick whichever one is the most fuckable one then further dumb it down from there.
Man that viego concept at the end is the coolest thing
at 17:10 the first mask in the third row looks quite similar to sentinels of light pyke with minor adjustments. cool how they reused that idea for pyke's skin.
Sylas with glasses is basically Chamber getting isekai'd into Runeterra lmao
I think K'sante was fully inspired by the concept arts from Braum wielding 2 shields
young sylas looking like a pokemon trainer
Why the concept arts are always better than the final product they choose as the official one
My favorite concept was one for Evelynn, where she had 6 arms and looked like a Coven member - I was really hoping that they would that that concept for her Coven Legendary... But well, what we got is still pretty amazing
It would be cool getting some of these as skins eventually
i like how many characters had concept art with the yasuo hairstyle
Probably not related but, riot should really explore a rivalry thing between Viego and Mordekaiser, Both are "Mad" undead rulers that broke free from death by their own will, if Viego goes the "Mad warlord" way because of loosing Isolde forever, Him Butting heads with the soon to be re-re-revived mordekaiser would make a for a great story arc
seeing Viego designs made me imagine a souls like game in Runeterra .They could make a whole game with only Viego designs as bosses
The concept art is one of the reasons I love reading their dev posts, some of these are super fucking cool and really stimulate the imagination. Glad someone put the spotlight on them, seeing the really interesting characters and designs that could've been
8:36
Sylas: "Time for ze Kings to bow!" *Summons a sniper rifle*
Urgot got one of the best rework model ever. I hope, we will see some occult themed skins in the future for him
One of Viego’s concepts shows him summoning mist crocodiles and tbh i would love to have a summoner character like that
9:35 I can't be the only one thinking this look like it ultimately ended up being the inspiration for Chamber?
The hair, glasses, but even the facial expression looks almost the same!
This will probably not get traction but honestly Bel'Veth's squid concept art is SOO good. It would have worked so much better with her kit and I just love the idea of a false dress made entirely of tentacles like an eldritch queen.
ok we’re gonna need a part two on this !!
Viego's design isn't very typical for a King-like character, but it's a very typical Riot-design. Very pretty, and not all that scary/gritty. I definitely expected something closer to Mordekaiser, and I've been disappointed ever since his reveal lol
LITERALLY WHY DOES IT FEEL LIKE THE CONCEPT ARTS ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT HAPPENED. THEY LITERALLY COULDVE SWTICHED OUT THE BEST DESIGN FROM THE DESIGN USED IN LOL FOR LOR
What I would have liked to see explored with Viego is a mask helmet (think King Baldwin from Kingdom of Heaven). At that point in time, the constant flow of pretty faces and sexy bodies was already an old hat, so twisting the idea a little with giving him a fake pretty face would have been cool. Make the eyes and maybe the mouth leak a dark liquid or something and it could look properly creepy as well.
I think the grey and yellow “evil braum” is from demacia, made out of the same stuff that galio is made from
As someone who loves shields and hammers, those braum concepts are hella fire. I love heavy armory so that really tickled me. The cici/cc/sisi concept should be released. That was a beautiful champion idea. Kind of like a shield ang can use it as an artillery cannon
The Sylas variant at 9:29 and the Jhin variant far right at 16:26 really make me think they reused some art for Chamber and Omen from Valorant
In your past videos about the lore of the ruined king and the shadow isles, i first thought that viego would look like something that is rotten flesh and accursed bones with soul imprints, then have a heart glowing dark and greenish.
I really love some of Akshan's concept art!
Would be cool if that last one for Viego was used for the mmo
What I found really cool about swains concept phase was that they struggled with his age. They drew him as 30 year old as well as 70 year old and anything inbetween.
ngl the Sylas with glasses looks great, i can even imagine his taunts just fixing his glasses on his face
I love this, I definitely would not mind more like this
10:10 Targonian Aspect of Might Sett, yes I would definitely buy this skin
Old Sylas looked like someone that would scream
"THEY ARE SO DEAD!"
12:00 c is my favourite idea of what kaisa could have been I love her face there because it looks like it can support the fact that she was supposed to be scarred by the void and also I love that fucking rifle,not a sniper rifle and automatic rifle,we don’t have that in league
Also I love her clothes and the addition of the cape she looks like the crusader rebelling against the void,now she looks like she is hiding amongst the beasts the void summons
I forgot to mention how 12:47 looks like the C I mentioned before and it really ties together I fucking love that design and I wish it was the one implemented
I really want a champion with glasses now after seeing the early concepts of Sylas; I mean proper reading glasses not like vayne's glasses or the various goggles.
I got cold when he said
"Weilding his queens tombstone a sword"
Oh I've really missed your top tiers videos, thanks Necrit, hope to see more of this content soon
9:22 young Sylas out here looking like P5 Joker
Jeez, that last Viego concept looks so fucking badass, and I'm not even a fan of tanky looking champions.
The design is hella original and creative. It's intimidating, mysterious and it screams ¨I have a story to tell¨.
It's a shame we may never get that champion, but it's nice to think about the probability that, some day, they might recycle that same concept for a new character.
sylas with glasses looks like orochimarus Sidekick in Naruto
12:23 and a way more fitting for a person who had to sacrifce their humanity to survive in the void.
A lot of these concepts seem super dark, understandable yet a tiny bit disappointing barely any champions are actually taken that route but would be very cool to see a Halloween themed game including the horror esc variants
Sylas : you want to play let's play
That old viego holding the tombstone could so be an ultimate skin
"riot would need to make an element to every character ultimate"
Well they already have to make the Ults work with him so I guess it would just add to the pile
Those are some awesome and terrifying Urgot designs!
7:42 Piltover, probably. Looks like he’s made of hextech, or just tech in general.
I like the ideas of Sett but how on earth did they make him 14 years old
They didn’t. Necrit was wrong.
Dude
That black and red morde concept is so sick wtf
Not gonna lie I wanna be in that universe where Sett turned out as a Darkin Behemoth, it just looks so fucking cool.
my god we could have a Sauron as the ruin king and riot didn't pick him oh man he look so darn cool tho
Why is the concept arts much cooler than what we got riot?? 😭 Like even the design that they decided to set up the path from what we got is much cooler than what we have gotten..
I've been working on a 3D model of Kai'sa and I can't wait to finish with the base model so I can add the sick arm cannon
I love how this concepts shows us that some peeps at Riot want to do more thematic champion looks but sales department and higher ups go: Nah. Make it sexy/good looking or you are fired.
Sadly, yes. I think they need to find a way to make both the fans happy without angering the markets.
Maybe they should make Concept skinline because all this ideas look cool and wackey
"France guy with a yellow gun in a shooting game sylas isn't real he can't hurt you"
France guy with a yellow gun sylas:
It's funny that they really love the old sylas looks with glasses and they added him in Valorant as Chamber
they put Sylas with glasses concept into making Champer from Valorants recycling is the now
Damn i wish Swain got into that list. Specially that the dissapointing that was Viego somehow got first place. I really wish they went something like vampire from Heroes 6 for him
Kinda feels like almost every concept for Kai'Sa was better than what we eventually got. For Sylas, the opposite. They felt too clean, like he hadn't been mistreated in prison his entire life
Riot really love Sylas glasses they turned him into Chamber
19:00 admit it, most of us thought the ruined king was morde
Airship Syndicate used to work on Darksiders and Battlechasers they're built different.
I feel like glasses sylas was used for chamber from Valorant but idk. He just gives that vibe.
Therapist: Fiddlesticks isn't real, he can't hurt you
Fiddlesticks: Fiddlesticks isn't real, he can't hurt you
Chamber Sylas won't hurt you. Chamber Sylas won't hurt you
Chamber Sylas: