House Stark’s Secret Kingdom in ASOIAF
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- A Song of Ice & Fire is a series filled with intricate geopolitics, complex character drama, and tons of magic. But in the background of ASOIAF lore, there are massive mysteries left unsolved. Maesters, commoners, and even some lords debate the existence of land beyond the Sunset Sea - west of Westeros and east of Essos. Could a hidden kingdom run by an ancient branch of House Stark rule there? Is this land responsible for oily black stone? How does this affect Strong Belwas's legacy?
Music by Quest Master questmaster.bandcamp.com/albu...
Map of Known World by Klaradox klaradox.de/maps/
Thumbnail art:
Lonely Light by Martina Pilcerova x.com/pilcerova?lang=en
Direwolf by Stefano Carta www.artstation.com/stefanocarta
Art credits docs.google.com/document/d/e/...
Sources & further reading:
GRRM on Stark skinchanging www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
GRRM on round planet www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
GRRM on ASOIAF geography www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
Aztec sacrificial stuff www.science.org/content/artic...
Vinland Sagas libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=...
Twitter: / crusaderchris89
Contact: crusaderchris89@gmail.com
Timestamps:
0:00 Lonely Light & House Farwynd
1:51 Farwynd Origin Theories
5:25 Stark New World
11:39 Lonely Light's Purpose
#asoiaf #gameofthrones #houseofthedragon - บันเทิง
Clearing up a few things I worded poorly in the video:
- Yes, Leif Erikson and Norse colonists discovered the Americas before Columbus and established settlements; my point was the exact timeframe (i.e. 500 years before Columbus) is, to my knowledge, disputed a little bit. So I didn't want to say Leif found North America 500 years before Columbus with certainty.
- Human sacrifice is just a small component of the rich Aztec / mesoamerican cultures; the reason I singled out their sacrificial methods was to point out one way this fabled land in the Sunset Sea might not be a paradise, like some (i.e. Gylbert Farwynd) believe. I think it's relevant since the Aztecs were a part of the "New World," and this fabled land would be like Westeros's "New World." I don't want to boil down the entire Aztec culture to human sacrifice; next time I'll be sure to give a more balanced overview rather than focusing on one relevant aspect of a place.
- I didn't go into the Deep Ones in this video, as I'm trying to keep my runtimes shorter, but another theory I really enjoy is that the Deep Ones are real, they're responsible for the Oily Black Stone and the Seastone Chair, and perhaps they have an underwater kingdom (i.e. the submerged city of Atlantis) in the Sunset Sea; the fabled land is actually a water city, not a land city. Pretty cool option as well.
In 1487 the Aztecs sacrificed between 10000 and 80400 people in a 4 day period. I know, it's a rich and beautiful civilization with great food, wondrous cultural traditions, and friendly people, but are you sure human sacrifice is a *small* component of that culture? I mean, the Boltons don't have a 112 feet in length and 40 feet wide skull rack like archeologists found near Templo Mayor and human sacrifice is quite an important component of their cultural traditions.
Anyway, great video as always
@@magicznyignacy380 Yeah well people got mad at me for only mentioning the human sacrifice, then people got mad at me for downplaying the human sacrifice. So idk man... I'm not a historian, but I did do research, and yeah seems like human sacrifice was kind of a big deal over there
@@CrusaderChris Hah, that's what you get for caring what nobodies on the internet think. People who got mad because you didn't extensively describe their perception of the Aztecs in a 15 minute asoiaf video probably wouldn't care about the corrections anyway and just... add your head to the pile.
@@magicznyignacy380 you do realize you're one of the "nobodies", right? He was talking about you, too
@@comicmoniker Of course. I just happen to be one with the correct amount of chromosomes.
So you’re telling me that in a few hundred years a dragon is going to fly into the world trade center
A second dragon has hit the tower
“Sir, you are NOT going to believe this”
Dragon fire cannot melt black stone.
Yeah, their going to attack Braavos and crash into the twin temples of Semosh and Selloso 🤣🤣🤣
Your grace, a second dragon has hit the Hightower.
I very nearly made a video about House Farwynd this week and now I'm quite glad that I did not. Great work as always!
still dew it
Quinn i am the number 1 House Farwynd supporter, you must make this i beg of you, i need more house Farwynd content
What no winds does to a mofo
Fun fact: If you have the Sunset Invasion DLC (which revolves around an Aztec invasion of Europe) for Crusader Kings 2 downloaded and are playing with the A Game of Thrones mod, there’s a chance that said Sunset Invasion (of Westeros) is led by a Stark of Brandon the Shipwright’s branch.
They invaded me once, with a shit ton of dragons. After that I always disable this in game rules.
Best CK2 mod imo
@@morganhall-cottrell9512 Maybe if it wasn't so prone to save corruption. I'd say GoA (warcraft mod) is better since it's actually playable long term.
@@Yue_Jin That's where my ADHD powers come in handy, I don't play any Paradox game "long term" I just keep restarting with new scenarios cause I get bored
A Lighthouse would be very useful for whoever lived and fished on lonely islands weeks away from land. Seal skin and Seal leather are very valuable products afterall.
malora and leyton have been hosting a radio show all this time??? they should’ve just said so 🙄🙄
They have been, but since tinfoil hasn't been invented in Planetos yet, no one has the right hats to hear them!
Arya skinchanges her wolf from Braavos to the very West of the Riverlands, that's really fucking far lol
5G must be banned
Gilbert Farwynd said he’s make every man a king and every man a queen.
Every man a king? Exactly like Huey Long, a Louisiana politician, used to say. So it stands to reason House Farwynd is Cajun and the Iron Islanders are Americans, come to spread liberty, freedom, and justice for all to westeros.
Euron Greyjoy for President 2024
Makes sense that Elysa failed, she perhaps was too South, if she was even bellow the Summer Isles level, as far as it's described as a land with no winter, it should be arround the Neck or bellow, arround, perhaps at the same altitude to Essos, Lonely Light may be the furthest north this hypothetical land reaches.
The sea snake claimed he saw her ship in Ahshi, but it had no crew. This is George’s way of confirming the world is round
Honestly, I don't think anything George could write about these unknown lands would reach our expectations. The mystery
about what could be there is more exciting than actualy knowing.
Nah he could do it, its just a matter of how many decades youre willing to wait
That’s the main issue with writing mysteries. The reader will almost always make up something better than the author can.
@@baneofbanesparticularly when you take 30 years to address the mystery and allow people to keep building up ideas
Agreed, and no disrespect to the incredible peoples of modern day Latin America and those with indigenous roots. While the native Americans carried on happily in their own world. The real action, which would snuff their civilizations out, was occurring on the Eurasian and North African landmass. I have to laugh when we discuss the brutality of the ancient Americas. It wasn't a patch on what we were doing to one another. The Spannish and Portuguese, via their "emancipation" of local feudal tribes giving them greater numbers, moreover, their armament, horses, and skill at arms. Used bugger all men to brutally pacify the dominant groups. Hence, with Planetos and it's continents based on our planet, and Westeros being based upon Medieval Britain. I can imagine much the same thing happening to the inhabitants of this massive continent to the West. Thus, it would be pretty boring, in all honesty. Moreover, I see no evidence of ancient native Americans on Britain, lol. One thing is certainly interesting; however. The arguments between convergent development of societies or ancient or undocumented, documented, mythical cultural happenings which might have been exchanges. In our arrogance, we forget how capable and ancient civilizations were. Polynesians in places like Hawai'i and Easter Islands probably had contact with the pre-european Americas, for example. Furthermore, are they telling me, ancient coastal Africans and indigenous Americans over the period spanning thousands of years, didn't wonder what the hell was across the mid-Atlantic? Moreover couldn't they have island hopped to visit with one another?
House Westark!
From Westerfell
King in the West! 🎉
I think there’s an argument to be made for Arya being just as powerful a skinchanger as Bran. Not only has she warged more than one animal, she warged Nymeria from a whole different continent. If she had training and actually knew what she was doing, she has the potential to be quite powerful
One great theory I heard in the disputed lands channel was that oily black stone comes from weirwoods that died and petrified. 1) an archimaster told Sam in the citadel that weirwoods don't die, they become stone 2) the shade of the evening is an oily liquid that comes from an paralel tree to the weirwood that is said to drink the light 3) the land south of ashai has lots of black trees. If that is true than ashai could have been built with such tree, as well as lonely light form the land just west of westeros.
One thing we should keep in mind about the so-called Aztecs is how diverse the empire was. There were many different Nahuatl speaking cultures, and only the Mexica ruled over the others and sacrificed (some) war captives.
The other Nahua peoples rebelled against the Mexica several times. There were also non-Nahua people who were under the thumb of the Mexica, such as Mayans and Mixtecs and Otomis.
There are many people today who descend from the so called Aztecs and they still speak their ancestral language, and it would be awful to misrepresent them as the descendants of an evil empire. As in ASOIAF, most of them were macehualmeh, of smallfolk.
George R.R. Martin likes to create analogues of historical figures like:
- Brandon Shipwright = Lief Erikssen.
- Elissa Farman = Christopher Columbus.
- Lomas Longstride = Marco Polo.
Oily black stone is very common here in Brasil
Its too bad the Maesters dont seem to practice trignometry. With it they could calculate how large the Spherical Planet of ASOIAF is. That would give us good estimates to work with on what is where.
Who says it's a sphere?
@@Mathemagical55George himself has stated its round.
@@Mathemagical55 gravitational rounding
Ayo drop everything, new Crusader Chris just dropped 🔥
As a peruvian. We have leyends and an entire religion based on the fact that we know the vikings came first. When columbus came atahualpa was dumbfounded because the viracochas that were supposed to get back were different. They were supposed to be vikings. He even made a joke " this europeans are dumb, they are dying of hunger without tools to cook, but they are walking around with metal pots on their heads"
I personally follow the Great Empire of the Dawn dragon riders theory to explain the presence of black stone and oily black stone, with all the places it can be found having been outposts/colonies that cover the sea south of Essos and western Westeros (there are none north of Essos or east of Westeros due to the Arm of Dorne). With Ashi being the empires capital. So im not sure black stone came from across the Sunset Sea.
As for an Americas is Planetos, Im not sure, its possible, and would fit with how the existing continents mirror our own. But I definately think Elissa went around the world and landed in Ashi.
But the Farwynds deffo know more then they are letting on, I agree they are probably skinchanges (or atleast their head is) and they know more about the Sunset Sea then anyone.
It did but the empire went east and reached Westeros after the cataclysm
@@durrangodsgrief6503 I was the same, but I kind of roped Yeen in as having been one of there colonies that tied them to Westeros. But given that we dont know whats easter of the Shadow Lands and how Elissa got there, I deffo think theybcould have also reached Westeros via the Sunset Sea
Bran saw a young man with tan skin, a long face, dark grey eyes, and dark brown hair with a strand of eagles feathers tied into it looking eastwards over a cliff side. His arms that were revealed from his peculiar cloak had drawings of wolves, weirwoods, and longships ships full of men on them. “Is this Jon in the future?” Bran asked.
“No this is the present” Lord Brynden responded.
“I don’t understand, he’s like a Stark but I’ve never seen him or anyone like him.”
“You and your siblings may be the only Starks left in Westeros but not in the world.”
A rustle came from the small trees behind the man and he turned to face the noise like he was expecting it. Out came, it couldn’t be, Bran was frozen with surprise, Uncle Benjen? Benjen smiled at the man like Bran had never seen him do, “Josiah said the fleet will be ready sail tomorrow, we’re going home cousin.”
Is this a quote from a book?
@@gcap7711 no
I really like this theory, I can see the Aztec-esque civilization being the origin of Oily Black Stone, and possibly on the same landmass as Stygai and the Shadowlands.
So just Even more Eastern Essos? Cuz the Shadowlands are quite firmly attached to the Far East.
@@Warden0190 That’s my guess, or perhaps a smaller continent very close to far eastern essos. Perhaps Ulthos?
Nah, Americos is in the way between Westeros and Essos. 😋
No everybody knows the Squishers are the origin of the oily black stone duh
You continue to kill it Chris! Another great video!
When I was a small summer child to this story I loved the idea and thought it was George foreshadowing the others were going to really be an apocalyptic threat and almost wipe out all of Westeros because of all the in fighting. The dream of spring would be the banners of house stark coming over the horizon to “save the day” and help what remained of our hero’s fight and push back the others. But after the show I realized that was a pipe dream lol. I also thought the others would attack from every shore at once. The dead would come marching out of the water forcing everyone to the center of Westeros aka Harrenhall for one last battle which they would subversively lose
Seems much more likely to me that the only continent west of Westeros is the unmapped east of Essos. Elissa Farman arrived there, with her 3 dragon eggs, wich problably became Dany's dragon eggs. There is a theory that Elissa might have learned Ashai magic to live much more than a normal human, like Melissandre, and became Quaithe. This means that the Ironborne are problably also descendent from east Essos people. And actualy I have a theory that they might be related to the Bloodstone emperor, especially Euron. Oily Blackstone seems to be always linked to the Great Empire of the Dawn. As for Brandon Stark, he problably just sank along with the rest of his fleet. His story is quite similar to the Malinense king Abu Bakr, who also made and joined a great fleet to cross the Atlantic, only to never be seen again.
I think too that Quaithe is Elissa
@@kinggidorah6910 Elissa Farman left her three eggs in Braavos as payment for asylum and construction of the Sun Chaser I believe. The Braavosi don't build ships for free.
@@eriktillman8114 You're absolutely right. I remember the eggs were related to Elissa, but forgot she left it bravos. So, the closest evidence to her completing the trip to Essos is her ship problably being spotten by the Sea Snake.
when the gylbert talks about the lands west it sounds like a cheeky nod to the undying lands in lotr but the lands themselves did not make it undying it was its inhabitants something men in that world did not understand.
when I saw the map of the lonely light to the west of the Iron Islands, i immediately thought of st kilda, to the west of the hebrides in Scotland. They are the last islands in Scotland/British isles before you reach the Americas.
Fantastic work as always! I can’t wait for your video on Dany and Meereen
Great video. Two things I took away from it (assuming the "lost Stark kingdom" to the west exists):
1. It would be a cool parallel to Seanchan from the Wheel of Time series. GRRM is a fan of WoT, although I am not suggesting that he was necessarily inspired by it in this instance. Brandon the Shipwright could be the ASOIAF equivalent of Luthair Pendraeg from WoT. Luthair sailed west, discovered and conquered a new continent called Seanchan, and was never heard from again. His descendants returned to attempt to reconquer the Westlands (their original home continent).
2. Assuming that Arya's ending in the show is canonical in the books, it would be cool for her to reunite with the lost branch of her House beyond the sunset sea.
Love your content! Thanks For this ❤❤❤❤
Well now I’m curious about the logistics required to keep a beacon (large enough for ships to see) burning 24/7 on a rocky island that’s eight days of sailing away from the nearest islands, which are also mostly just rocks. I imagine it takes a lot of work to keep that place supplied with a constant supply of firewood. Or maybe they burn seal oil?
The idea that there could be other Stark’s to this unknown land is brought further home by Arya’s desire to sail west. How cool would it be for her to follow in the footsteps of her ancestors, sail west, and find distant relatives living there.
Great video!
Personally, I like to think if you walk far enough beyond the wall, you eventually loop back around and wind up in Sothorios.
that would be one hell of a trip
You'll end up at the five forts once you somehow get past the lands of always winter
Or in North-east Essos
Damn this was 10/10 such a great video
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also who do you think will be on the iron throne by the end of winds of winter?
With how GRRM links sources of magic to either coming from the same source (ie, there are multiple groups of the Children of the Forest throughout the world) or opposing forces (Rhollor and the Great Other). Thus I think 'oily black stone' is fused dragonstone that has come corrupted or stained by evil. This parallels the dark mystery of Asshai, which is a massive city bigger Kingslanding, Volantese, Old Town, and Qaarth combined. Yet it is terribly cursed after the Blackstone Emperor started worshipping necromancy and caused the First Long Night. Thus I think oily blackstone is linked to evil necromancy and worship of the Great Other (who takes many forms such as the Black Goat, the Drowned god), and is corrupted, like the sea stone chair. The Iron Islands followed the Old Gods until the followers of Great Other (drowned god) chopped down the massive weirwood grove on Old Wyk.
return of the king
This theory goes so hard!
Nice video
Ok, I'll ponder. The Wynds of Winter? Humour, unless it's not...
I wouldn’t say Brandon is Leif Erickson, he’s Abu Bakr II of Mali. Way more parallels between the two
You now, 8 days from Euron is a good policy at this point in time.
Getting northern Skyrim vibes from this one...always a beautiful point in a playthrough getting to the ice platforms and horker seals
given most of ASOIAF is based on british history, im actually suprised the lost settlers of roanoke weren't referenced at all.
or the fact that farwynd may be a reference to the irish fishermen we now know were secretly trading with native americans long before columbus found it.
also, as for Elissa Farman, that may be a reference to a dutch explorer who found the east indies, then found new zealand, and completely missed australia.
This is the kinda stuff I love. We will never truly know how our universe or world was before written records and how it all began, but we can live vicariously through the people of westeros and esos and find an answer for a fantasy world at least. Southorious is Antarctica(exact opposite but same place) and ulthos is Australia and all adjacent islands n such. Obviously esos is like Africa and Asia and westeros is Europe. There could be something akin to the Americas between westeros and eastern esos.
This is a loooooooooooooong shot. Really, really long shot.
imagine a series starring Arya Stark on her mission to visit the east and she ends up on this place called the grand line in the east blue.
There she meets a cracked head with his band of lunatics.
I think the land beyond the sunset sea would be the eastern coast of Ulthos, the continent we can barely see on the map.
*What if the land undiscovered was real, and a group of Vikings like people lived there? What if they've started planning an invasion of Westeros?* Actually, they could do something like that for a sequel series (we'll never get one of those lol).
If the long night was actually only 5000 years ago could the base of the high tower then be an early attempt at fused stone fortresses since valrya would be rising around this time?
I'm reasonably sure the "oily black stone" is a Lovecraft reference
Kinda a theory.
Black stone = Dragon Glass
Obsidian called glass because it's brittle, but we know it's some form of rock that is found near volcanoes. What if, infused black stone is just a magical material made of dragon glass. Whether Valyria has anything to do with it could be considered, since they are also able to make their kingdoms with it.
there is a fanfic called sunset starks about the shipwrights decendants
Surprised "Lonely Light" wasn't a spot Corlys didn’t head too, for the sake of adventure of course.
In universe an interesting puzzle, how many of the not-returning sailors perished on sea and how many, if any, reached and remained on that hypothetical land beyond the sunset sea?
We'll find out whats beyond the sunset, when Arya takes us there.
Don't Hodor's eyes change to grey when he Bran in him? What if Gilbert has a passenger too?
Pretty good video. Cool idea. Nice layout. Easy to follow. Hate the way you say it like dray-gun. 10/10
Wanna get real weird with it look into how the Iron Islands used to be a part of mainland Westeros. You’re closer than ppl might think connecting ironborn first men and northern first men. Credit to David Lightbringer’s channel
I think it can be true at the same time that some people go west and hit nothing but endless grey ocean, whereas others hit a continent.
On Earth, Chris Columbus and the Conquistadors were lucky, in that North and South America stretch virtually all the way down from the North Pole to Antarctica. Just go west, and you can't help but hit it.
But imagine a world where between the Atlantic and Pacific was a continent about half the size our Western two continents, at least latitudinally? Or even just the size of Australia or something?
If Planetos was like that, then some explorers who go west but a little too far north or too far south, latitudinally, would just bypass the continent entirely and never see it.
I believe Brandon got into a storm but made it. Afterwards he probably had no idea how to get him since he didn't have a compass to navigate.
Look up the legend kf the welsh or English king who supposedly sailed to America before everyone else , interbred with the loca tribes and later the explorers found a tribe of native Americans with fair skin who spoke words of welsh. I think that’s what George is referencing more so than Chris Columbus
A number of glass candles XD
How’d they get the stone there
what if essos is like Europe a single massive continent and when Alysa ship was found in asshai it would be like someone sailing from America and landed in the Persian gulf
It’s undeniable that the Starks trace their history to the Iron Islands. Your idea is a good one
The oily black stone is a reference to the C'thulhu mythos.
Columbus wasn't the benevolent explorer as he's portrayed
Yeah he was a bit of a rascal to say the least
@@CrusaderChrisHe discovered America is what he did! He was a great Italian explorer! And in this house, Christopher Columbus is a hero - end of story! 😡🍝
how tf can they keep the beacon on? theres not enough wood there for sure
Maybe they used whale oil? Maybe the Farwynds on Great Wyk sent regular shipments of wood to Lonely Light? Good question
Maybe the New world fleet/Brandon starks old fleet will come and fight the redwyne fleet in winds of winter, who knows maybe a secret stark descendant has survived
A way for traders to not get to close to the iron islands they sail way around them and sailors use that beacon as a signal. and they trade with the lonely islands and the lone islands dont attack the ships and get trade/supplies. a win/win
It be funny if theon was actually a ancient stark
13:32 How would she get to Asshai going west without seeing a huge continent?
Several possibilities. The continent may not be super huge. She may have been blown off course and missed the shore. The continent may be further north, more in line with Lonely Light and the Iron Islands than with the Summer Isles. Or maybe there is an invisible shield wall (like Wakanda) powered by oily black oil.
13:34 hol up. i cue quaith: "to go west, you must go east" danny asshai arc confirmed???
Interesting
I think there are valyrian dragonlords there. It seems implausible to me that all the dragonlords are gone, even if they were killed en masse. A dragonlord atop his dragon is the king of wherever he pleases. I also believe they could have fled south to the southernmost part of sothoryos.
Eyes that shift color are not common, but happen. My father’s eyes do the blue/grey shift and will also go violet. It’s not so important.
Good video, but it's annoying that you show a picture of Dagmer Cleftjaw every time you mention Gylbert Farwynd.
Will house stark get there valerian sword back?
The world map of Asoiaf only covers a quarter of the Globe. There is a lot that is hidden off the map in ASOIAF.
Fun fact skin: warging is shown to be inheritable it actually only is inheritable. Only the first men can and those of strong first men blood. The books say it’s a lot more common in the north of the wall with the wildlings. Plus the starks married all the women of a house who were all very powerful wargs known as the warg king. And I’m pretty sure bran is a greenseer and a warg not a more powerful warg it’s different first men abilities. It’s also hinted all the Mormont’s are wargs as well. And the starks had dire wolves for generations and are all wargs. And I can’t remember where but I also read somewhere that Brandon the first stark was the son of Garth greenhand a powerful first man and founder of most of the reach houses from his other sons from his many wives. Somewhere else I read I think also said they were just his bastard children and that the starks were his legitimate children from an actual wife and therefore king of all the first men. Some of this may be fanfic but I think the Garth greenhand being an ancestor of the starks is a fact I’ll have to check. Maybe a video on that if you can?
Garth Greenhand's son is Brandon the Bloody Blade. He may be Brandon the Builder's father.
The use the beacon to find their own way back to their tiny islands. I solved this at 1:38
Maybe this Land is under water and the endless grey sees are the Land itself
I saw the fabled land west of Westeros was a mixture of the Americas and Atlantis, but who knows the truth until George gets around to giving us more information?
I think there is land beyond each of the four known borders.
i’m sorry that intro was perfect “and rhaena targaryen’s lesbian lover”
edit: spelling
I actually wrote a fan fiction (for fun) in which Arya enlisted a Farwynd man who helped guide her to Wessos lol. Like the character in this vdeo, he could warg into whales, but only orcas. Blue whales, humpback and sperm whales minds' are far too ancient and powerful to occupy. When i quit writing, Arya was running from armored giants. I ran out of steam.
Tales of the Unknown asoiaf Story (should be a future project for GRRM)
The north west has resources that mist get to some kind of market?
This is why there's a permanent light house, its there, so obviously there's enough commerce there to provide it.
Definitely think there is a Stark domain west of Westeros and Arya will find the descendants of Brandon the Ship Wright
If there was a continent between the lonely light and Asshai, Elissa Farman would never have made it. Oily black stone may come from an earlier Asshai civilisation
Working with the theory that westeros represents the UK, essos represents mainland Europe and Asia. Sothoryos is Africa. So there has to be a massive land to the west. Probably southwest of westeros. The known world map of westeros would only be the Northeastern portion of the world.
Were gonna need an 8th book...
Its a cool theory, but you said it yourself "we will probably never see Farwynd or exlore this lore again" i would love for Grrm to write about this, or gve us anoter world of ice and fire, but we've been waiting over a decade just to get the next to last book of the story....
The Ironborn are decedents of the first Rhoynar.
No way they living on that island and haven't got up to something wacky lol 😅
Along time ago, in an ocean far far away….
If Elysa arrived at Ashai, the land in the west is Essos.....
If you want more trails to follow on “oily black stone” look into the Ibbenese, and Moat Cailin.
The first ten seconds were gold, and then the wiggling lizard image showed up, and I lost it a second time. Fun theory, 20 out of 10 visual cheekiness as usual! I would personally prefer to leave West-Westeros -- West-squaredros, if you will-- as a tantalizing mystery in-universe. It's more fun to speculate, as you've well proven. That said, I love any and all content related to House Farwynd, and the alleged non-Stark skinchangers mentioned in the World book. Tantalizing stuff!