Theists Say Stupid Things
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2023
- it's well known that theists say stupid things... and in this TSST, we have 'proof of god', why prayer saves from curses, and some other stupid arguments that actually don't demonstrate anything other than a bit of ridiculousness. Thank goodness for folks having stupid things they believe in, so that I can make videos like this.
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Making a rule and then immediately exempting your protagonist from that rule is just bad writing. Monotheism has one of the worst magic systems ever.
LOL! Good point.
love it
15:36
"Lord, please heal my dying child..."
"Nah bro, that doesn't glorify me."*
Right!?!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
And the silly part is that healing an incurable disease WOULD very much glorify his magical powers...
@@irrelevant_noob
But then can you imagine everyone then coming to your department for answers? I mean sure you want to be known as a miracle worker but if everything is a miracle, is it?
"Sorry, but your miracles are just not considered as such any more and your job is a miracle worker. Make some actual miracles happen or you're fired!"
The problem isn’t the stupid things they say, it’s them believing what they’re saying is not stupid.
Absolutely. We all say stupid shit. The difference is, most of us realise. Whereas those people, don't.
yeah, i say lots of stupid things as well. but at least i am aware of it and i do it on purpose. but these people are actually fully serious. and its not even rare. its super common. at least on the internet it is.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870they are serious but they also believe it's ok to tell lies in the furthering of Christianity
Is this the stupid era where godless alone people are theologian (yes, sure when they believe there is No God, No Soul and No afterlife, how they can be theologian if they do not believe in GOD? that why thery are all full of BS) but they are so obsessed with us, because they live by reflection of what other people believe and not really have a real identity? Ye, Obsession, and BS that what they have to offer, just like their cult called Atheims. (do not lie, that is just but an empty cult) No respect for you and your godless miserable life. (They really stands on nothing, that how their life is... Nothing , but obsession for what other people believe, because they got less sacred things in their poor life)
then
DO NOT TELL ME THIS IS NOT A CULT AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE GODLESS ALONE PEOPLE WHO STANDS THEIR MISERABLE ON NOTHING AND ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE BELIIEVE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO ALONE AND JELOUS OF US; WHO HAVE SO MANY THINGS SACRED IN OUR LIFE THAT THEY DO NOT: NO RESPECT FOR THEM. Imagine to be a godless alone idiot (without God) with No God and no dignity, into an empty worthelss cult called atheism that does not lead anywhere but your own lonlyness run any time you see godless ass to kiss it, because you do not have God in your miserable alone godless life.
what? Are you the godless alone idiot, you be f those instead him something done does when he stopped to believe in God? And that you removed God from your heart to put lies and shit from for this empty cult that both JG gives you, but BS and lonlyness... Let's hope this godless worthless generation will he over soon just as their stupid atheism. You are worthless to anyone, and also to you, godless alone (or Godless ass kisser without any dignity)
LET'S BE CLEAR TO THOSE GODLESS PEOPLE... WE ARE JUST TIRED OF YOU TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU DO NOT EVEN BELIEVE;as obsessed idiots.
That why they always come here "saying they were Christian", or "Saying personal stuff about themselves" or "Saying something superficial" or "Makes stupid jokes" or "Laugh as stupids" (They do that because they have less secret things in their miserable life)... As be a Christian or a believer makes you have more to have more precious things in your live, and much worst to be a godless and soulless desperate (alone) idiot.
But any way... LET'S START AND SHOW HOW MUCH NONE WILL MISS THOSE PEOPLE AN THEIR EMPTY CULT WHEN IT WILL GO BACK FROM THE NOTHING IT COMES FROM... ALSO BECAUSE IT IS WORTHLESS... (And without God you are more worthless then the believers... that is simple the true).
Why godless alone people are obsessed with God?? and talk about him more then a believer? Well for many reason.... 1) About that BS called atheism there is not much things to say, no value, no sacred things and and it leads to nothing. 2 And then because they know they are so many godless alone people that will run to kiss their ass... 3 they do that so this cult can be alive, otherwise is destined to vanish, exactly from the nothing it comes... because is nothing but a cult that has nothing to offer to us and neither to the godless alone people who belonged to 4 And finally this cult will be vanished without those videos and those godless alone people will be just alone.
And who said the opposite is a godless alone hypocrite.
This cult called atheism is so empty... And those godless alone people really have nothing to offer to themselves.
They have less sacred things then us... what an idiots they are for that too.
Let's hope in a better generation because this is so lost.
You are into an empty cult that leads you nowhere... No respect for you, godless ass kisser.... You really left God to put BS and emptiness in your miserable Life. No Pity for you. (God is always you do not know)..... We need to move to a better generation, and Hope godless alone people like you will not exist anymore in the future (you are worthless your cult called atheism).
What you realised that Atheism is just an empty cult?
That Have nothing to offer to you, or to the humanity?
It leads to nowhere?
To the Obsession for God?
For Christianity?
That there is not comfort on it???
And that live and die as an alone godless person is not the best you can have?
Just as have the idea that once you die you will be Nothing (and Nothing you are now, as you become what you think you will be once death) is not the best for your mental and psychological stability?
Or have sacred things (as other people have) and you do not (such God) is so idiot that you are rething about everything and start to believe that Atheism is not but a BS, and a trap you are in???? They are patethic and worthless as their empty cult called atheims, which will not lead them anywhere, but a alone godless desperate life that they will never admit it. No respect for them. THAT IS JUST AN EMPTY CULT, AND WHEN IT AND THOSE GOLDESS WORTHELSS SOULESS PEOPLE WILL BE BACK TO THE NOTHING THEY COME FROM, NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT. NO RESPECT FOR THEM AND THEIR NO SENSE CULT (godless ass kisser, with no dignity)... THEY BRING EMTPTYNESS as their cult called atheism... Shame on them and their desperation....
Anyway only a pathetic person can learn something from someone who explain you a thing obsessively that does not even believe... (with videos that are not helpful for their life...) WHAT AN EMPTY NONSENSE MODERN CULT YOU ARE TRAPPED IN, AND YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF........
Atheism is just empty BS, but those godless alone people are so sad to do not get... Let's hope in the new generation, this one is so lost, and none will cry when their worthelss atheism will be over.
Your wortheless empty Atheism is dragging you to the nothing it give to you (and to us) but you are too pathetic (as atheism) to get it. No repesct for you godless ass kisser. No respect for you Godenier...
You just worth as your atheims: 0.
For real what an empty cult... when this worthelss cult will be over none will complain... Our faith is much stronger then your empty BS. Deal with it. (it is far better to be a God believer, then a godless alone person as you in an empty cult that does not give us and even to you anything)..... THIS IS A CULT, in which those godless patetich people does not deserve any respect.they life stand on nothing, and nothing they bring. Let's move on with a better generation, none will remember this one.
When a Christian is talking, assume they’re lying. This rule will serve you well at least 90% of the time.
Assume they're lying and that lying is the _point_ of them lying because they're putting on a show for the other indoctrinated idiots, their fellows. That'll account for the other 10%.
I need to hear this about a week ago. I’ve got CP (cerebral palsy, a physical disability) and I don’t know if you’ve heard of a woman who I’m not sure of my opinion on, known as Marlene Klepees, she claims to have been healed through a vision from God of cerebral palsy at the age of, I think it was 19. The story packed full of claims absolutely pisses me off. All it is, is an unintentional guilt trip towards disabled atheists. It’s basically a story of “if you believe in God, he will heal you in the name of Jesus” if this happened to 50 more people in other Christian countries outside of the US (or here in the ever atheistic UK, even), or if it was reported by more worldly and impartial news channels, then I might just believe it, but until then, it’s all (as Mr SkepTick likes to say) CLAIMS!!
Unless you are exclusively talking about ministers or evangelists, this is incorrect. Lying indicates they do not believe what they are saying, and the biggest problem with religion is that the believers truly believe what they are fed/repeating.
Oh yeah, good point@@lumeronswift
Indeed. I cannot trust Christians, as they believe that they have unconditional, eternal forgiveness for anything and everything. They're also fine with lying in service to the lord.
We get to see them lie on video every single day in America. Christian Republicans are a pox upon the whole of Humanity.
Theists say stupid things because reality and reason are not on their side.
I couldn't have said it better. Neither could Hitchins. Roll it out brother man.
@@extremetea I'm always amused how gullible atheists worship some dead atheist drug addict.
Imagine thinking you can defeat a logical fallacy by simply inventing an entity with no justification for it.
... and then use that as proof of that entity's existence.
I guess Christians are lucky that finding your car keys is something that "honors and glorifies" God 🤔😅
"Yay, I found my keys! But that kid over there with cancer? Fuck 'em; they should have prayed harder"...
~Those christians
@@RainbowFlowerCrow It just happened to be part of god's plan that specifically that child should die in horrible agony from bone cancer. He can't help it.
14:30 "did you go to a witchdoctor?"
Proceeds to do the exact same thing the witchdoctor did.
Theist response to anything: Talk in circles until the other person gets bored or has a stroke.
A word comes to mind when I hear these types of arguments. Sophistry.
SOPHISTRY:
a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning
SOPHISTIQUE:
une méthode de raisonnement subtile, délicate, superficiellement plausible, mais généralement fallacieuse
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This universe is not unjust, it simply seems completely indifferent to our opinions and feelings. Exactly what we would expect if nothing is out there looking over us.
2:24 That guy trying to explain DNA killed me. He probably thinks it's all like alphabet soup or something😆
Whenever someone uses the code analogy and they are not trying to explain DNA to a group of elementary school kids I know they have no idea what they are taking about. That analogy is only used at a very base level to get general concepts. Once you start to learn what DNA is and does no one uses that analogy because they assume you understand it is just a chemical and chemical reactions. .
I suspect you're right
You should have seen the spelling in the primordial soup! 😅
It doesn't matter what theists say because none of them are special enough to get their God to show up...not a single one
Wearing my “In Giraffe We Trust” shirt as I’m watching this 😀
Pics or it didn’t happen!
"The argument from contingency proves god's existence." And yet we are still debating it.
“This thing is what I call god”. I call that god too, but she has a long neck and a leaf up on her.
It is amazing how they don't seem to realise it makes any claim that a particular being was the creator equally valid, it does not help to prove their God.
That "C.S. Lewis animation" was amazingly creepy. And the argument was bad too.
How can you judge an argument to be bad unless there’s a bad argument outside yourself to compare it to?
That bad argument must be God.
(Or something like that. I was never able to follow the pretzel logic.)
Saying it was an AI seems like a hit. "I'm C.S. Lewis but call me Jack"? Seriously? What brain-dead dumb robot came up with that noise? It's like someone tossed a Mad Libs game and a Ravi Zacharias sermon into a blender and this is what got shat out.
Putting words in his mouth is disrespectful, too. These fundamentalists can't help but to keep digging when they hit rock-bottom.
If we can only ask for things "in accordance with God's will", then what is the point of prayer?
"What's the point of having a Plan if some schmuck with a two-dollar prayer book can come along and f*ck up your Plan?"~~ George Carlin, because I only steal from the best.
Because if you pray for something that was going to happen anyway, you get to pretend your prayer actually worked. This is an insane level of desperation from the theists.
They count the hits and ignore the misses.
George Carlin was definitely worth stealing from.
Why is there all this evil in the world?
Gawd WOULD do something about it, but you schmucks keep interrupting him with your cry for a parking space, let you win a game, help you find car keys or just to pay a visit on a piece of burnt bread.
He wants us beg!! Hahaha
oh prayer doesnt have a point in the first place if there is an all powerful all knowing God with a plan. but its not like the fact it doesnt make any sense stops theists from doing it. because as long as they have faith, logic amd reason doesnt matter
"God answers prayers, but only if they align with his will" How shitty is that? You can have any prayer answered, as long as it fits in to god's will.
And why would you bother praying if you trust God's will/ believe he knows what's best for you? By praying for something wouldn't you be showing a lack of faith and/or trust?
The main thing that made me an atheist was how religion was contrived. The part about prayer was a good example, if a person prays, whatever happens can be God answering it.
The first one you showed was a prize plonker but that second one, holy shit, I'd need all of Sir Sic's Whisky supply for a week just to get through his concentrated stupidity.
Ditto for me too. It made no sense and Jack even less.
"I used to say that when I didn't believe in god myself"
See, I already don't believe you.
I always love how theg go from "there must be a creator" to "the creator is the christian god whose attributes and doctrine is completely agaisnt observable reality"😂
How can there be a pink unicorn who pulls furniture out the way of my toes if I'm always stubbing my toe?
Damn, my question just proved there IS a pink unicorn who pulls furniture out of the way of my toes. Neat!
I knew it!
I feel like the animated one simply deserves the Billy Madison response. Not even an attempt was made to form any logical connection between "the word good exists, therefore god."
its quite literally like believing thor exists because of thursday
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 No Thorsday there for Thor is far more logical.
Then "I just god can't create a evil world there for the world is good as the Insecure one is a good deity (rolls eyes)"
According to that animated video, if I ask how an evil god could exist with so much good in the world, I’ve just proved an evil god must exist?
I guess so.
Sounds legit
It should work both ways, right? Haha
Ah yes, the typical dance of "I don't understand, but it was my gawd, realzies!"
These people could have been wonderful, loving, productive members of society. Imagine a world where these individuals have been taught critical thinking and not the most obvious nonsense. Armed with an ability to challenge harmful ideas, every man-jack of them could protect themselves and save others from the dangers of religious ignorance.
There is nothing worse than a clever personn with bad informations. They have the brain to defend a position that they would have deconstructed if they had known better. Would it just be to evaluate a proposition.
Stupidity is what stupidity does.
@@celiand2618 I am not an expert. I am not qualified in psychoanalysis to be taken as an authority on human behaviour. I can only speak for myself based on a lifetime of personal human experiences. The best I can say is that we rely on our parents to steer, guide and protect our young lives. "It takes a village to raise a child". If everyone in the community reinforces the same message, this becomes the truth no matter how morally bankrupt that message may be. This is vastly simplistic. We are far more complex social animals.
I am suggesting that education, society and family are major factors in our development. If these influences help steer us into questioning who, what, where when, how and why, rather than obeying blindly then we have a better chance of recognising scams, fraud, racism, bigotry, lies, harmful relationships etc.
Religion is not the only fruit; Alien Abductions, Nessie, Bigfoot, Rumours, Old Wives Tales, Superstitions, Anti-Vaxxers, etc. are less likely to be instantly accepted as credible.
There is plenty of evidence to back up my ideas.
I am not more intelligent than the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Pope is revered my millions. I am not suggesting that religious people are less intelligent than other groups. Science does not claim to have the answers to everything. Science only deals with natural phenomenon.
And after all my waffle; Yes, I believe that an ability to critically review new information would help many to avoid false and harmful ideas. This is not a panacea. We will still use shortcuts and presumptions in order to function efficiently.
Do I make sense?
You forget, half the population is stupid by definition.
@@celiand2618 My father was a professor of education (pedagogy). He was politically fairly left-leaning (and also worked hard at his job; at least one year, he had more students in final exams than all his colleagues together). He described some of his even more left-leaning students as having a "closed worldview", which is essentially the same as what you just described. A worldview that can explain everything, so there is nothing that can disprove it. Also typically found among fans of conspiracy theories.
If you don't understand the value of falsifiability, those worldviews are very attractive. If you do, not so much.
I love how it always has to be "a being" instead of just a force or energy.
"It's about time they proved something." Holy crap, brutal and brilliant!
That concentrated stupidity should be illegal 😂
Argument from contingency: Behind the existence we experience, there has to be an existence we can't access, but behind that existence, there can't be a deeper existence because I said so.
Okay, I am following you so far. But how much horse manure do I have to shovel in order to fill a bottomless pit?
no matter how much manure you need, just hope it's not like the one in Gravity Falls. Would be pretty inconvenient if it came back out...
"Ask and ye shall receive" (under certain circumstances and if Yahweh feels like it)
Fantastic! Comes from a god that loves you unconditionally so long as you meet certain conditions
Conditions that he deliberate obfuscates by telling different groups of people different things and he has perfect knowledge what the out come of his deception will be in advance.
Yup. If only things that happen are ones that God intends to happen any way, then any sort of prayer is pointless. Way to shot yourself in the foot, preacher man.
"Ask and ye shall receive"
Terms & conditions apply. Not available in all areas. If symptoms persist, see your local doctor...
"One item per person, conditions apply." God is a marketer.
Besides all the points about prayer being useless or redundant by every metric, there's another problem. The whole "He sometimes says no or wait" thing is undermined by the fact that god never comes down to actually tell people his answer. instead, he just leaves them hanging.
It's amazing how people's minds will fill in all the silences and read into all the nothingness. Talk about believing what they want to believe! It's like watching 3-year-olds come up with stories about their invisible friends, except, well, they're adults who should know better.
@@Cat_Woods And the imaginary friends the kids invent are usually better people than god(s).
7:34 and i feel embarrassed that i was ever in that silly cult.
It's water under the bridge.
God answers prayers with the statistical consistency of chance, and the biblical proviso of a Magic Eightball. 😑
_Person prays for relative with cancer_
God: Outlook hazy, please try again later.
@@mjjoe76 Person prays again later
God: *No.*
"arguments as proof for the existence of a made up thing" is the funniest concept theists came up with. In all parts of life you don't need arguments to proof something, at best you are in arguments AND prove something. But somehow the supernatural is excempt from that.
Good to see your circley goodness back Tick. Hope the family are doing OK.
The CGI old man definitly hits my uncanney valley territory 😅
12:18 cartoon guy proved NOTHING except hes senile
They tell lies to convince me of their god. Then they ask me for money. Because their god always needs my money.
Always.
Lol, I just got a midroll ad for a bible app, talking about how "Now you have no excuse to not participate in the word of god".. Oh my Lisa, Leslie and Lucy!😂🦒🦒🦒
🤣
'DNA is a code that requires a coder'
Methinks you don't know how analogies work. Or codes. Or DNA
If DNA were a code, 90% of it would be comments complaining about how confusing the other 10% have been written by the predecessor.
Or language.
@@alameachan
Well isn't 90% of the code already just confusing and repetitive messes? Yeah, the comments would bloat it even more...
Hope baby and momma are doing well.
As do I. Hopefully you are doing well also. Fathers have difficulty after birth, also. Especially after struggling with NICU.
We’re doing great! Thank you!!!
@TheSkepTick So happy to hear that. Been through some stuff as well and thankfully have a healthy 13 and 16 year old. Best of luck to you and yours, and keep up the great work.
@@TheSkepTick
Oh congratulations! (And commiserations too 😉)
Highlight of my weekend!!!! Hope you and the Mrs. And baby are doing well
The bloke says that if someone prays for wisdom, God will give it. That is one of the things for which I prayed in the spring of 79'. Godfrey naver gave it and so for that -and several other reasons -I became an agnostic for 37 years. Now I am an atheist. Would Christians say I have wisdom now? Did God give me the wisdom to no longer believe in Him?
Congratulations on the wee one. And do keep exposing theist silliness.
The 2nd guy is creepy AF. He has the cultish smile on a basically expressionless face while he barely blinks. Yikes.
Hey! Look! I found a jaw on the floor, ANYBODY LOSE A JAW???
His entire argument is still something people came up with. Who said that a self explaining object has to exist. And when you do find one it still doesn't explain where the whole universe came from. It may not define where it even came from, just what it is. That is pretty messed up that they have to trick you into believing their religion. They know how unbelievable it is and that it doesn't even closely match our observations of the universe and the history of this planet.
I used to believe that stuff. But I was kind of a nerd too so I liked to read. At some point I had to make myself believe it. And after I quit I still pretended that I did. I knew my family would be mad and cause me a bunch of grief if they found out I wanted to quit going to church. I took a night job to have an excuse not to go to church. Because I had to sleep for work that night. I don't even entertain any of that stuff now that I moved away from my family and found a new one. I still like to know about the ancient religions and how they came about. But I don't believe in the god of the bible any more than I believe in Zeus or Ra or Odin or Vishnu any other old dead god. I know Lisa the rainbow giraffe "leaf be upon her" exists. Someone made her up for TH-cam videos and I can see those videos. And she explains herself. She is a rainbow giraffe named Lisa "leaf be upon her. Moore hen." I already know where she came from. Someone made her up like the other people made up all the other gods who have no leaves upon them.
Leaf be upon you, if you're reading this.
more hen
May all your giraffe farts be glittery
So, it's not turtles all the way down, it's giraffe shit all the way down? That makes sense.
His example of the word "wet" actually disproves his point. Because we also know what dry is, because we have experienced both. Since we experience different levels of pleasure and pain, we created words to describe it. Hence good and bad are descriptions of experiences, not transcendent concepts.
"that by definition is good." And right there is where every argument for a god fails - the only way theists "prove" a god is by defining it into existence. And that's why every presup fails, and the "argument from contingency" is nothing more than word games.
15:55 “So god only answers prayers that benefit him?” Perhaps god should run for congress. He’d fit right in!
My cat's argument that she is a goddess is much more convincing than any theist argument I've ever heard.
Proof of the existence of Bast.
Argument from Contingency: You need God to explain why there is anything!
Skeptic: OK, so what explains God, then?
AfC: God doesn't need an explanation! He isn't contingent, he exists necessarily!
Skeptic: How do you know?
AfC: That's how he's defined, silly!
Skeptic: Ah, so God exists because he exists necessarily, and the AfC is just an elaborate red herring to obscure that you're begging the question and using a circular argument. Got it.
AfC: But ... but ...
Hey, floating circle, look up lungfish (and a host of other fish that can survive outside of water)! (And I bet they know the difference between dry and wet, too. They just prefer wet.)
And yeah, CSL is rather unimpressive as an apologist. His reputation is undeserved.
The prayer/bibble quote one at the end - if not for quoting the NT, I would have sworn it's a Muslim channel. Maybe the speaker grew up with a similar language environment to what they often have? I have no clue.
That witch doctor is now in real danger after this man was convinced she literally cursed him and caused his life to derail. Great job 🙄
Exactly according to the plan of the fundamentalists.
They really enjoy people who don't follow their specific beliefs (even other Christians) being needlessly harmed and/or killed.
The last one, what you said, is very true. If there is "a god who sees the future and has a perfect plan"....no prayer can do anything at all....unless Christians think that they can actually cause this type of "god" to act outside of what it had see itself already do in the future.
And as a side note for "the god who sees the future and has a perfect plan", that would, in effect, mean that what the "god" already saw itself enact at a future point in time,...it has to do it...thus is bound to its own self...effectively becoming his own slave to those actions...incapable of changing its "mind". What does that tell us about such an entity? 😕
That CS Lewis animation was made with static pictures that was put into one of those AI deepfake apps. You can tell by looking at how everything moves. You can get an app for your cell phone that does this. They probably purchased these static pictures and just ran them through an AI deepfake app and recorded some guy reading a script into it. These apps let you take pictures of people and you can film yourself talking and the person in the picture will move it's head and eyes and mouth exactly matching your movements. Scammers use these apps to fool people all the time.
10:46 this cartoon guys "arguments " just get dumber and dumber
3:58 Turtles, all the way down
This is turning into a whole series for you 😂
He will never run out of content, unfortunately!
The Ai's voice reminds me of the UAC voice from DOOM 3
man, if some dude walks up to me and asks if i had seen a witch doctor before i dont think i could take him serious. im pretty sure i would burst😂
You tell how incoherent these arguments are from the way the AI subtitles can't make head or tails of them.
Laminin is just a protein that happens to look cross-shaped (so a very common shape literally formed by two perpendicular lines) if you orient it in a specific way that is vanishingly unlikely to be observed in nature because it's flexible. It's like thinking that earbuds function as a crucifix because you can arrange them into a T-shape on a table. Everyone knows what happens if you stick them in your pocket. It's also like expecting to literally see tiny spiral ladders. No, DNA is arranged into complex shapes at a molecular level &, if you do some chemical processes to get large samples of pure DNA, they look uncomfortably close to semen.
Sure, eventually, something has to be non-contingent, but you would have to prove that, not simply define whatever you want as non-contingent. And it doesn't even follow that this CAN be proven. In all likelihood, there's just an aspect of the cosmos that exists without explanation with nothing to indicate to us WHY that's the case because it's not contingent on anything else we could use to analyze it. For example, it doesn't make sense to ask why there wasn't time before the start of time because the start of time is, by definition, the start of time. You certainly can't just go attaching a bunch of other properties to it because "that's all part of God, we decided."
Well, instead of hearing that rebuttal & bizarrely proving god exists, you could realize one or more of the following:
1. There are more refined versions of the argument. For example, that Christianity presumes objective good & evil, so Christianity needs to explain how the existence of objective evil makes sense with an omnipotent & omniscient God who created everything. Or that when we say things like "evil" & "cruelty," we're using shorthand rather than explaining everything that ever happens & causes pain. You got it, Pixar Dude, if the universe is indifferent, there's nothing strange about this. But if it is guided by an intelligence that has our best interest in mind, that needs explaining, & Christian explanations ultimately fall short because they fail to explain why an omnipotent being could ever have the limitation of "needing" evil or suffering to achieve a purpose. The way omnipotence works is you just instantly get whatever you want because you can do anything, or at least anything that isn't definitionally impossible. And when asked to show why this is definitionally impossible, Christians fall back on "mysterious ways."
2. There are other reasons to not believe in a god, so if your one argument is wrong, that doesn't prove a god exists. If I say that a guy is making fake Bigfoot sounds, & then later we see the sounds while I'm watching him to confirm he isn't doing anything, that doesn't prove the sounds were made by Bigfoot, it just means that particular explanation is wrong. It could be a different hoaxer, an animal, or some ordinary noise like wind or traffic that is distorted by the acoustics of the area. It's hypothetically possible all of these explanations could be wrong & it's actually Bigfoot, but we don't just default to that, especially when there are many other problems with the idea of Bigfoot existing, like how they could maintain a breeding population without any corpses ever being found.
Cooooold reading!
If you ask Atheismo for proof that god doesn't exist, the answer is always "yes" or "wait."
I love when theists compare and analogize demonstrable man-made objects (a cup) to naturally occurring objects (a rock) to make a point, and they never (intentionally or not) realize how moronic that comparison and analogy is.
Light makes the universe work.
Holy shit you cannot be dropping all of this lore on us just out of nowhere
Fuckin Leslie?!?!?!!?!
But which rainbow giraffe was before Leslie?
Lily
It's tough living outside of reality, science and the Laws of Nature
Can I do more for god? yes!! Can I walk again? No, sorry. Not part of my plan
Just a bunch of video shorts of dishonest theists. Imagine that. Thanks Tick, keep um coming.
I don't like pumpkin spice lattes. Chocolate or chai, absolutely, but the pumpkin goes in the muffins.
To each their own.
Also, hi GG! Lovely to see you in the comments!
Goodness and badness is subjective and since it is that makes the universe neutral.
Ya know, I've always kind of liked C. S. Lewis. He had more sympathy and humor in his beliefs than most. But when I was reading some of his books back when I was looking for "answers", even when I didn't know anything about logical fallacies and blind assertions, I could see his unassailable arguments were in fact pretty assailable. I don't think his training in rigid logic was as rigid as he thought it was, or perhaps he wasn't as atheist as he wanted to believe he was.
Part of me feels a little bit sorry for these people, trying so hard to sound intelligent & convincing in their efforts to prove the existence of their "all powerful" god who could, obviously, according to their own confessed beliefs, clear up the rumors of his existence once & for all (or however many times needed) by simply revealing himself to all! Come on, god, give these guys a break!
And quiete convenient that their god needs people to do "his work"
I wonder if the CS Lewis Company and the CS Lewis Foundation know about this nonsensical video series that has his name attached to it? I can't imagine they'd be too thrilled.
Sounds like cause for a C. S. & Desist. 😂
But seriously, they should pursue legal options.
The picture they used for Antony Flew looks like they asked an AI to make a young, handsome version of him based on real photos so it gave the impression that this was something recent and relevant.
The giant leaps to "it requires a creator" would almost be impressive if they weren't so dumb.
The animation in pixar mans video makes me feel like I'm coming up on acid. If the backgrounds move and breathe any faster it'll make all the kids who watch it get motion sickness.
The monotonous repetition of the same dozen manipulative lies as if to create a hypnotic state where people are willing to give their wallets to strangers…
3:14 Good to see my boy Michael Lofton getting some coverage.
Was the first guy the dude shane dawson wrecked with kindness.
It is hard to decide which one was the most stupid. The contingency argument does not demonstrate the existence of God, I could equally say it showed the fairies at the bottom of my garden did it.
Mr Pixar man probably gets my vote. The Universe is not cruel and unjust, it doesn't have the ability, it is what it is. We define the meaning when we use descriptive words, we call a line crooked because it is not straight, we define a straight line as the shortest distance between two points.
This is the problem with the human race were so hell-bent on knowing everything that people can't take the simple answer of "we don't know" so they fill that gap with God
The Contingency guy actually has a reasonable argument, right up to the point where he makes the awful leap of logic. These things exist, therefore God. Well, colour me convinced!
And the word ‘reasonable’ in my first sentence is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting…
😕I weep for the species🤨
15:01 God and prayer work in the exact same way as a Magic 8 Ball.
It's like a friend of mine who was into chanting for things. When he learned that he could chant for weed, he would do it, and he got weed! This went on for a week, until one day when he chanted for weed and got nothing. So he chanted twice as hard and got nothing. Eventually, he asked his spiritual leader about this. The answer he got was that, "the universe has decided that acquiring weed is not in your best interest at this time."
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.
The preface to James George Frazer's The Golden Bough proposes the following progression of human understanding:
1) Magic. Humans perform actions based on principles of sympathy (e.g. doing a dance wearing stag antlers will enhance the success of hunting stag). They think that they can influence the world by their actions.
2) Religion. However, because the actions are based on erroneous principles, they only work as much as random chance. Therefore(?) the forces of the world are really under the control of powerful beings, and if your stag dance didn't work, it's because you didn't do it right and please the Deity of the Hunt.
3) Science. Back to part one, but this time humans have worked out how the world *actually* works rather than erroneous principles.
God only answers prayers that go along with his will? Lol, if it was his will already, then why would you pray?
Well, clearly God likes having his ego vigorously stroked, and ego is four letters long and starts with a D.
@@EdwardHowtonI saw this funny atheist meme that said: "Prayer-because I already know what you want but I just want to hear you beg."
2:37 I love the way "BaSiC" is spelled there 🤣
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Jesus radit, sed solum crura!!
“And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the f*CK bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.”
― George Carlin
Earworms are God putting you on hold.
"Better to be a happy idiot than someone who knows the truth" - Michael Scott
Praise Lucy.
Honor thy bussy.
It's log its log it's big as heavy it's wood it's log it's log it's better than bad it's good
Forget The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Lisa The Rainbow Giraffe (leaf be upon her!) is my deity!
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
*"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"*
*"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:45 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"*
*"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"*
*"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"*
*"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"*
(Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief)
*"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"*
*"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From?
*"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"*
Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica
(Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years)
*"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"*
*"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"*
*"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"*
*"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"*
Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"*
(8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science)
*"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"*
*"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"*
*"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"*
*"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*
*"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"*
*"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei
(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
For the animated man talking about good vs evil needing to be intrinsic to the universe for us to know what it is, no. Just like a whole can have properties not possessed by any part of that whole, parts can have properties not possessed by the whole. Electrons have a charge, protons have a charge, but an atom with the same number of protons as electrons has no charge. The universe as a whole does not need to have a moral scale of good and evil in order for us, a part of the universe, to define that scale for ourselves.
Hooked on a feeling!
Anthony is , what, twelve years old?
Hahaha.
All useless word salad.
Tje contingency argument is definitely one of the most childish things theists say.
The leaps they make... yeesh.