Theists Say Stupid Things
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- What stupid things do theists say? Well, it turns out there are MANY things... but here is a small collection of some shorter videos with theists saying things that are a little bit silly... Are you angry at a god? you might find out why that's so in this video... or you might just think that actually, it's all a bit stupid.
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Ken ham's brain is so full of circular reasoning its made completely of short circuits.
Ken Ham looked at the Olympic flag and thought it was an instruction.
Such a perfect design that my dad and his sister both had heart surgery as children . . .
Well... the surgery was designed... not perfectly though...
Sorry to hear that
God was obviously punishing your grandparents with its infinitely moral sense of justice.
All part of God's plan. You know, the plan nobody can understand or make any sense of.
@@Biggskye But has very clear rules against gays.
It always amazes me how Ken Ham tries SO hard to sound reasonable and logical, but ALWAYS manages to do neither. "The delusion is strong in this one"
I also love how his "logic and reasoning" over a lifetime has built up to constructing arguments on par with the other Christians who are 60 years younger than him.
His middle name is Delusional.
What I think is so funny how Kent Hovand tries so hard to be just like Ken Hamm and Ken is always slapping him down but everytime he slaps Kent down the way he does it is just as stupid as Kent
Imagine the delusion of those thinking we live on a spinning ball.
@@CheckmateSurvivor
Run along Flatty, you're on the wrong subject and way out of your depth.
They tell us we must believe without evidence, then proceed to use their "holy" book as "evidence."
I submit the Bible is the "claim," not the "proof."
Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. Since God and the Bible are unfalsifiable it is disingenuous to say the Bible isn't evidence. Since a certainty of validity cannot truly be reached.
I mean it sure isn't GOOD evidence and ultimately proves nothing but it technically still can be presented as evidence. They just shouldn't get mad we don't take it as truth. I mean I certainly don't buy its claims. It is like an eyewitness testimony in a court case. It, by itself, isn't enough to get a conviction. There needs to be more evidence; material evidence, to reach an honest verdict. Some people may believe the witness, but a witness can misremember, imagine aspects of the story that aren't there, or just down right lie. I like to point and laugh at the theists (the insufferable ones at least) but we have to be honest about what the words mean or they can try and use our mistakes against us.
@@rickn8or For them, it's the claim AND the proof AND the proof of the validity of the proof.
@@rickn8or
I meant how _they_ see it.
The proof is outside the bible, that is what is failed to see.
Ken Ham has the affect of a fully hypnotized cult member.
I would have said "Huckster", but hey.
Like a rabbit looking into the light.
Because he is.
8:57 Bigger bigger bigger god...
That kid hopefully walked away thinking "Is that really the argument? This is ridiculous."
biggerbiggerbigger
Pure and simple child abuse.
Just imagine how big gramps Ham was
When a Xtain apologist starts one of these stories, it's just like with 45 starts with the man come up to me and said, sir, blah blah blah. Never happened. Pants on fire.
The kid walked away knowing he was correct and he just spoke to a moron.
Never thought in 2024 laws in US be made by quoting the bible
Goddamn Alabama & it’s Totsicles…
Not new, just explicit
Illusion and sophistry.
Mike "Churchy Freak" Johnson is all about a Christo Fascist state
Well that's what you get when you import religous nutters in the 1620s
Complexity doesn't prove an intelligent designer. A true intelligent designer would seek efficiency and simplicity, not complexity.
But that's your subjective opinion. A God doesn't need human beings'
opinions on what He can and cannot do.
@@phi4721What God?
@@phi4721
So we know God exists because things are incredibly complicated which means they must be designed by a perfect designer but at the same time we should ignore that a perfect designer would make things without as little complexity as possible because that's just a human notion?
So we can rely on human intuition that things look designed but absolutely MUST NOT rely on that very same intuition to notice that it's not very well designed?
Sounds like special pleading to me bud.
@@phi4721
Why doesn't your god (imaginary friend) know that simplicity is the hallmark of good design?
8:40 Ken Ham came sooooo close to understanding how an infinite regress means there is no beginning.
That's what I said.
Because he knows the instant he acknowledges this, the game is up and he has to get a real job.
I think he knows more than he wants to show. He's so far down the rabbit hole that he can't go back without losing face.
I believe this is called the sunk cost fallacy, which is basically says too much time, effort, money, blood, sweat and tears have gone into something to give up now. It doesn't have to be a religion, but it often is. This is why so many elderly people are set in their ways about so many things, but particularly religion. This is because they feel they're so close to reaching heaven that it would be insane to give up now, even if presented with proof that they're wrong about all of it and have been since day one. Honestly, at that point giving up on a lifelong belief would probably make them suicidal, so it's kinder to leave them to their delusions. However, people like Ken Ham are hurting far more than just themselves, so if you have a voice for reason, please speak up. But do so kindly, because these people have been conned since childhood and that's not their fault.
@@rickn8orspot on
theists always go from "creator" to "personal, allmighty, loving, intelligent super wizard"
That's weird, sure - but I'm still stuck on the jump from "Things exist" to "Things were created."
@@LadyDoomsinger yeah, that's a crazy leap too
When you really think about it, a "personal, allmighty, loving, intelligent super wizard" describes a therapist, which is what their brain is telling them they actually need.
@@fomori2 Yeah, but they're also taught not to rely on people, so they'll rely on their imagination instead, because that has been shown to be so incredibly reliable.
And is incomprehensible! Genius recognises genius.
Theists can't comprehend 99% of the things they themselves do, feel, and think, just like the universe. Theists have the self awareness of a brick, just like the universe.
Oh, did I say genius. Well, I meant the other thing :p
"Holy Bollocks" is my favorite disparaging nickname for the Christian texts
I always like "The Bumper Book of Made up Shit"...
Every time I hear these theists talking like this, and quoting carefully selected holy text, it mentally takes me back to school, the time when hearing all this guff started to sound crazy and the more I hear it the more crazy it sounds. If their intent is to make me believe in their favoured imaginary friend it is failing big time.
I left a quite thorough comment on another video using history and archaeology to quite thoroughly debunk the Flood, for a start.
More theist mental gymnastics, as if we didnt already have enough of that nonsense floating around
dr satan ? there cant be a Satan without a god , and you call yuself an atheist . and say ppl are doing mental gymnastics ? i think your more confused than a theist dude . even in sarcasm , saying you satan . makes an atheist sound stupid .
Ham looks a lot like the missing link for a guy who denies evolution.
That's what i've been saying for years! If you wanna deny our common ancestry with chimps you might wanna shave in order to not look like one
No insulting your ancestors!
@@mrapistevist lol
@@mrapistevist His ancestors would be offended, that's for sure.
well, the link isn't missing, hasn't been in a long time. and amazingly, it isn't ken ham.
That lady actually said she prefers walking around blind 😂😂😂
Made me remember Greg House's "you can tell me that you put your faith in God to get through the day but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways." ^^
“Man make cars, so God *has* to have made man.”
Such a stupid assertion…
Ken Ham sure does love special pleading for his god, doesn’t he?
Right. He was so close to realizing the gaping hole in his logic.
Gotta love when he says "none of it makes sense" with his limited understanding of natural explanations, and then proposes his timeless invisible wizard instead...
Ken Ham is a puddle who thinks the hole it’s in is perfectly designed for it.
Whenever they try to talk shit. I always remind myself these people will tell me Santa isn't real, but in the same breath tell me a magic zombie is.
Flawless function of our heart? Don't millions have that shit fail each year
And everyone, eventually.
Piss poor warranty policy.
Cardiovascular diseases (heart problems) is literally the leading cause of death in the world.
If it was flawless it would function perfectly for 80 yrs without any problems.
My Tarot cards and my Ouija board are saying Ken Ham is full of B.S., but my horoscope has advised me to be more receptive to other people’s ideas, so I am at a scientific impasse.
Then i'll help.
My idea is that he is spewing BS. His arguments are about as meaningful as a "nuh uh" from a very young child.
Don't worry, my tea leaves are telling me horoscopes can't be trusted, so you're good
@@davidcarney1533 I have a Homeopathic remedy for that.
@@davidcarney1533, oh, no! The Onion's horoscopes could be trusted. I planned a trip to Yellowstone that time when The Onion's horoscope told me that lava monsters would emerge for any Capricorns who ventured there. When I got there, I met one just emerging from the caldera and had the most wonderfully warm hug ever!
I got better. Lots of surgeries and such. But The Onion's horoscope was spot on! Unfortunately, The Onion hasn't published a new set of horoscopes since November 17, 2020. So where should I turn to now for direction about my life?
All of that is fake too lol
Automated or not, my anxiety makes me KEENLY aware of my heartbeat, especially when I start to panic at all 😑
My car has been worshipping Henry Ford.
Who was, unsurprisingly, also a fascist bigot Like the OT Yahweh.
Ford doesn't deserve your car's adoration.
Who wouldn't want to be worshipping Our Ford? :P
Well at least he's real and has good evidence that he existed.
Your dog worships you because you can open the fridge door with his food in it.
2:03 Theist should be greatful for the autonomic nervous system because I doubt they could learn to breathe on their own.
Ken Ham's tirade was so dumb I actually forgot all about that stupid heart thing. Which certainly gave me something to think about the next time I worry I've inherited all that heart disease most of my family died from. Apparently decades of medicine lied to me, because an AI voice said hearts are perfect and never fail, thus proving God.
...but how did the autonomic nervous system come into existence thats the point.
@@martinzeeman2188 As ancient colonies of single-celled organisms became increasingly interdependent, they needed to develop more specialized cells. So, some cells would be more specialized for digesting & absorbing nutrients, others would be more specialized to distribute them among the colony, & some would be more specialized to sending signals telling the others what to do. Eventually, they get to a point where they can no longer live separately. Now the species has graduated from a colony of single-celled organisms to a multicellular organism.
Now that it's a multicellular organism, all of those systems continue to develop, becoming more & more specialized. Those signaling cells from earlier, in the case of animals, become neurons. Plants & fungi have different methods of transmitting signals throughout their bodies, though all of them can generate action potentials, which to me suggests that this is an incredibly old adaptation, from before these three even split. And since modern plants originated from green sea algae, we're talking waaaay back.
Anyway, sticking with animals, it's strange to cite the autonomic nervous system as the pinnacle of development because something like it long predated the somatic nervous system. Animals like sea sponges & jellyfish, which lack any ability for intentional movement, can still respond to stimuli. They developed what's called a "neural net" as the connections between their signaling cells became more efficient due to natural selection. Having specific lines of nerves requires fewer resources to get the job done, thereby increasing the probability that they'll survive to pass on their genes.
In more advanced animals, we see "ganglia," which are clusters of neurons. Sufficiently dense & complicated ganglia located inside the head can be considered brains. Wikipedia has an excellent article, "List of animals by number of neurons," which shows a clear gradient of animals that can exist with as little as 200 neurons, not counting the ones that have zero. Invertebrates tend to have many different nervous system configurations, with some ones that require more complex movement or body coordination, such as insects, having less "netlike" nerve systems & more "cordlike" ones.
Only a single pylum, chordata, has a true spinal cord. That would be vertebrates, such as us. Mutations at the base of the phlyum gave structures that can become both the spinal cord & the spinal column. Our particular nervous system evolved to the point where we divide it by structure & classification, including into the somatic & autonomic nervous system. Though their nerve systems are structured differently, invertebrates also evolved somatic nervous systems (& continued to evolve their autonomic systems) because these respond to common problems faced by any creature.
Our modern nervous system is indeed very complex, but just like any other example of supposed "irreducible complexity," we see evidence a clear spectrum of more primitive forms that persist to this day. Our system evolved out of those more primitive systems which, in turn, evolved from earlier systems, all the way back to single-celled lifeforms. Indeed, the fact that we have stem cells that become specialized & lose their ability to become any cell is another sign of this.
If we were so "designed" that our cells were all highly specialized parts that couldn't come from less specialized versions, then we should expect that there is a "bone kind," a "blood cell kind," a "nerve kind," & so on that can never be any other kind of cell because that would be "macrodevelopment" instead of "microdevelopment." The existence of stem cells proves that specialized cells can & do emerge from less-specialized cells. If this happens in someone's body every day, then the idea that it's impossible to evolve over generations is absurd.
That, in a nutshell, is how the autonomic nervous system evolved. If you want a more specific answer than that, go ask someone who studies it for a living. The problem is that Ken Ham just uses his lack of knowledge as an excuse to say evolution isn't true because he wants his religious beliefs validated. If he looked deeper, any question of his can at least be partially answered. The evolution of the entire modern biome is clearly a very complex topic. No one, certainly no single person, can tell you literally everything about it. The more detailed of an explanation you want in a certain subject, the more specialized of a researcher you need to ask for the same reason you wouldn't expect to go to your family doctor to get open heart surgery.
@martinzeeman2188 Ptah created it, that's how.
@@martinzeeman2188 such a "system" is merely how we describe some interconnected parts of some organisms, it doesn't even "exist" per-se...
I think the biggest problem I have is that each of these guys starts with: There is a god. Then follows up with: I know exactly who this god hates, who he loves, what actions and thoughts he loves and hates, and he wants you to give me money.
Presence of bullshit proves the existence of bullshiter.
do u believe in more than 2 genders? do u support abortion?
Ken is just a broken record, he thinks he knows everything, so that's all there is to it. He can't let any information prove him wrong because then his head might explode like in the Scanners movies...
He works on the principle that any evidence, regardless of what it is, will be discarded if it contradicts the Bible.
It’s easy to know everything when the default answer is “ god did it “
Another form of Kent Hovind.
A man with no actual education, purchased doctorates, ex con, grifter, wife abuser, but KNOWS we will meet his fantasy deity when we DIE!
GOD CAN NOT SIMPLY END THE DEBATE WITH HIM SHOWING HIMSELF TO US ALL, AND PROVE IT EXISTS, NO, HE HIDES IN STORIES , FAIRY TALES OF MAGIC, SUPERNATURAL SPELLS, INVISIBILITY, DECEIPT, MURDER, TORTURE, SLAVERY, RAPE..
ALL THE MAGIC OF A PLANET OCCURRING IN ONE SMALL AREA OF THE MIDDLE EAST, AT A TIME WHEN EDUCATION, LITERACY, SCIENCE AND DEDUCTIVE REASONING NEVER ENTERED INTO OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES.
SERIOUS MAGIC OF AN INTENSELY IGNORANT TIME PERIOD.
NO THANK YOU, I PREFER ACTUAL EDUCATION OVER THE RAMBLINGS OF DESERT WANDERERS.
I've made hickory smoked hams, applewood smoked hams, maple smoked hams and they turned out just fine. Sure do wonder what was used to smoke ken ham.
Try it! Guess you will be high as Sears Tower. Or at least “be high on the love of Cheezus …..”.🥴🥴🥴🥴
Dried manure of camels.
I want the theists who say "everything is messed up because of The Fall" and the theists who say "the perfect order of creation and life proves God" to be locked in a room, and they can only come out when they can agree on something
They're probably the same people, blind to the fact that they're contradicting themselves.
@@TheLithp, Walt Whitman, in his epic poem, "Song of Myself" wrote, "Do I contradict myself? Very well: I contradict myself. I am large -- I contain multitudes". So it's no wonder Christians so thoroughly contradict themselves while claiming their holy book is the literal, inerrant, unadulterated Word of God.
The problem they refuse to address is why their god CREATED EVIL. Says so, right there in their book! So it must be true. Presumably, their god created evil BEFORE he created the first humans: after all, why would they need to eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to know that god and evil exist and to understand the difference?
@@johndemeritt3460 I think the Bible passage where God explicitly says that he created everything, including evil, is in Isaiah.
@@donnievance1942, absolutely! Isaiah 45: 5-7 to be specific.
My favorite part of the WHOLE Bible!
Whenever theists try and tell me "You're just angry at god." my response will always be "Are you angry at Gandalf the White?" if they say "No, what does that have to do with it?" I'll say "Well, do you believe he exists?" if no, "Obviously, it's just because you're angry at him and you refuse to accept him."
It's so dumb.
I mean I'm angry at Dominionists for trying to restrict my religious freedom, but those are just asshat humans.
Animals also have autonomic bodily functions.
Humans are animals and are not a unique ""creation"" on this planet.
😂
I think it was Ricky Gervais who said (paraphrasing a bit) if all the bees and other pollinators on earth were wiped out tomorrow we would not survive much longer, if mankind was wiped out tomorrow within 100 years earth would be a paradise for the remaining animals and plants. That's how special we are.
Imagine that kind of delusion, desperately searching for some mystic "creator figure"[1]. I (and you, and the person themselves) can easily DEMONSTRATE and even PROVE (by omnipresent and banal criminalistic DNA analysis, these days) who your "creator" was: MOM and DAD! Although in some cases they did a very bad job with educating their offspring ... you can even ASK them about your "creation". That is impossible with a fantasy figure like the god of the bible! In fact we can prove beyond doubt, that a mental construct, an analogy like Adam & Eve is NOT how and where we originated from! (See our easily detectable foreign DNA content from hominid subspecies such as Neanderthals and other numerous superarchaic influences. Or the diversity of the maternal mitochondrial DNA. And so on ... hehehe).
[1] Just my impression, but shouldn't they look for a psychiatrist rather than a cult influence? Or fix their “daddy issues”? I'm just saying, hehehe.
Some animals have superior autonomic functions to anything we humans have. Both flamingoes and dolphins are able to sleep with one side of their brains awake and the other side asleep.
And consider the hummingbird -- able to perform feats of flying that no human pilot can match! And that with a brain the size of a PEA!
If only some of the officers I worked for were able to do so much with so little!
In the beginning, Ken Ham became a grifter.
And people gave him money and he said that it was good.
And the first person he conned was himself.
*And on the 7th day, Ken Ham met Kent Hovind, and conspired to extort money from the uneducated and gullible.....
*Pass the begging plate*
Dam you for having me listen to Ken ham
I’m sorry!!
A beginngin, as well as a beginnvodka and a beginntequila. Holy spirits!
The blank look, that emptiness in Ken Ham's eyes, you can only get that from a true zealot with nothing actually happening upstairs except internal deity fellatio.
There are such things as natural bridges. There’s one in Kentucky.
Seen it, too!
2:47 It's not even about congenital heart deformities, the functionality of a heart is so needlessly complex that if someone created it they'd have to be an idiot, the corinary artery is one of the first to get blocked if cholesterol gets on it and there isn't really a back-up system. And do we really need 3 different tipes of valve? And why is the nodal tissue structured so weird? And there are just the first things that come into my mind
But, doesn't it fit perfectly in the hand like a banana?
Not to mention how prone it is to just stop beating, or beat too fast and then stop beating as a result. Theists are waaay too lenient with their usage of "perfect."
@@Krikenemp18 It's easy to label things the way you want when you simply ignore all the examples that contradict it or hand wave it as "Gorbs Puhlahn!"
Um, thats obviously proof that it was perfect and a non-talking (non-humans don't talk) talking snake ruined humanity. No one can be as perfect as god so it is necessary that we have flaws that he wouldn't have, proof of god yet again!
God works in mysterious ways :)
You know what they call faith without evidence: gullibility!
Uh...heart disease is consistently the leading cause of death in human beings. Also, I see plenty of patients with a multitude of heart problems that require intervention, many of them genetic in origin. Even my own brother was born with a malformed aortic valve that eventually led to complications that nearly killed him. He ended up requiring surgery to implant a mechanical valve, an aortic graft, and a pacemaker. So much for perfect design! Or is it our fault for supposedly being god's naughty little critters who deserve to be punished in the weirdest ways possible?
Fantasy beats evidence. Pseudoscience beats research & observation. Lies beat truth. This is the Religious version of Rock, Paper, Scissors.
Outside of space & time…… so not existing in the universe. Got it, thanks Ken that was surprisingly rational 🤣
Outside and inside being spatial terms means God is in a different space. If God is timeless, how does God do/act such as create as action occurs through time?
@@bobs182 who says a god acts? Or that it would even have a mind? There is nothing you can prove or disprove about something that isn’t there.
@@kariannecrysler640 I was just adding to your points. My point is that it is a contradiction to say that God created the universe and God doesn't exist in time because the action of creation would require time as does all action.
@@bobs182 great point.
The "most complex informational language system in the entire universe" is encoded in *four* symbols. I think it falls short of "most complex."
Ken Ham has thoroughly searched every planet around every star in every galaxy in the entire rapidly expanding universe for a more complex system of encoding and he has failed to find one, therefore God.
It actually is very complex, but it's not a language. It's a chemical structure. The main unstated fallacy in theological thinking is that complex structures cannot arise from simple dynamics, and require a mind to come into being. However, non-linear system dynamics has blown that assumption off the map. The Mandlebrot series and every snowflake should put that idea away for good.
I love how, for thousands of years, God was just an ordinary supernatural guy hanging out in eternity, and then Big Bang cosmology was developed, and overnight, God became "outside of space and time" so that he could take credit for the Big Bang. I believe the technical term for this is "fan fiction."
And you really don't want to read the slashfic. Or maybe you do; that's up to you.
@@RichWoods23 The slash fiction is concentrated in the Book of Johua and Deuteronomy. I suggest Joshua. It's tops in psychopathic sadism.
I'm not an atheist, but then I'm not Christian either so I don't claim the gods I believe in to be outside of time and space. I don't know how they came to be. But then I also don't care about trying to prove they exist, or pushing belief in them onto anybody else.
Le gasp! Hobitses don't exist? My search for the One Ring ends like this? It's been a waste of 500 years. I'm gonna yell at Thor when I get home for telling me about that.
Don’t listen to the skeptick, my dear Odin. Hobbits are totally real! Please keep searching for the One Ring. I hear it’s a hot commodity though.
@@MarceldeJong I know I hear that is in the possession of a mailman named Malone... :)
I heard he might have hidden it in a Sunflower.
Hiked through all of Narnia and took a cruise to Neverland, but no signs of any rings there. I have reached out to Elric of Melnibone about a magic ring, but he hasn’t returned my call.
@@MarceldeJongSorry, but the One Ring was destroyed at the end of the Third Age. But there are still two Silmarils unaccounted for.
I have seen so many male cars mate with female cars, and bring forth child cars.
Are bumper cars the children? If so, amusement parks are looking at a lot of lawsuits.
@@wintergray1221 I thought more in the term of rc-cars, but yeah, bumper cars are perhaps the teenagers.
And if they breed before striped sticks they get go-faster stripes along their sides.
I did not need that mental imagine in my brain... I haven't even watched that Pixar Cars movie, and you've ruined it forever for me 😆
You say so! But maybe cars are themselves product of evolution. So maybe the clutch repair set I have in my basement will eventually evolve into a washing machine. Sounds as reasonable as Egg&Ham’s BS. (Ironi)
Deport Ken Ham.
I heared the island of St. Helena shall be quite far away from everything else. But in the time of the internet, satellite communication and social media, he would most likely be able to continue bothering everyone.
No! We reeeealy don't want him back! (But please accept our apologies as part payment.)
To the Sun
I think he might actually be exiled from Australia, at this point
Any theist who asserts their God exists outside of time, has defined their God out of existence. For anything to exist, it must exist at a point in time. Congratulations Ken, you have just asserted that your God does not exist.
It also means that it cannot be a personal god as they like to claim.
Yup. If God exists at "No point in time" that means he never existed.
C'mon, a little afford guys or girls. Please explain your train of thought. Think beyond what you know as a reality.
@@martinzeeman2188 sure, if a god existed, but it’s a timeless, spaceless being, it cannot possibly care what happens to John Smith on that tiny blue marble.
So any prayers you send to it, fall on deaf ears. It has the entirety of the universe to play with.
Also, if we were to be “god’s favourite people”, then why is 99.9% of the universe toxic and dangerous for us?
Another contradiction in Ken Ham’s theory: according to his own bible, this god creature interacted with humans. But if it’s outside of time and space, that’s clearly impossible.
*edit* my comments keep disappearing. I’ll try updating this instead.
You don’t know me indeed. I used to be Christian. But when it became time for me to confirm my faith, I searched and I searched and I found no evidence for a god and I have found no reason to believe one exists.
In fact, where you theists are hiding your god nowadays (behind the Big Bang, outside of space and time), it’s impossible that it’s also a personal god. What would a space-less and timeless being care what Martin Zeeman or a Marcel deJong on that tiny dusty blue marble are dealing with, when that being has the entire universe to play with?
@@MarceldeJong A lot of assumptions from your side in your statements Marcel. That's what I mean with think beyond. You have any evidence that God does not listen or does not care about you or me? There is at least no denying that Jesus walked this earth, died on the cross and then was resurrected. We know that much for a fact. Denying that is just denying history. I don't know you Marcel, but I would recommend to get into contact with God, you will see something will happen.
Ken Ham makes me wish I was deaf, he could win a gold medal in boring.
Last weeks video might beat him for most boring theist.
Why can't we ship him back to 'Strailia and let them deal with him for a while?
@@rickn8or 'Straya has strict laws about the importation of foreign matter. He's been away long enough that he counts as thoroughly contaminated.
Faith is still not a virtue. It's just another word for gullibility.
You can have faith that your brother will pay you back. That's not being gullible unless he was super shady and never paid you back in the past
@@someonehavinganidentitycrisis Then that wouldn't be, faith if you had evidence for how unreliable someone was
@@nealgrimes4382 it's being gullible
@@someonehavinganidentitycrisis "Faith" has two different common meanings. One is "trust based on evidence of past events." The other is the religious meaning of believing in things without support of evidence. Religious people like to conflate and equivocate those meanings to justify their reliance on faith. That's what you're doing.
@@donnievance1942 thanks for the correction
"I dont understand how the heart came to exist without a creator and any alternative seems absurd to me"
Thats an argument from personal incredulity logical fallacy. Ironic that they think logical fallacies are logical arguments
Only question i have to Ken Ham , explain summer in arctic circle where sun shines 24h for 2 month , why is that not in the Bible ?
Is it that the writers of the bible did not knew jack and thats why the bible have nothing outside middle east in it ..
@@pete_lindhe’d tell you everything is because of god and then ignore any evidence
They choose for it not to make sense. Science makes a very good presentation on evidence they see in many areas. Such as DNA and fossils found. How they see DNA work in life now. They actively choose to NOT understand and hear how all the pieces fight together in the over all picture. Instead they choose to not understand it so they can say it "doesn't make sense", which is admitting you didn't bother to go far enough for it to make sense. There are a lot of Christians who accept the over all science and worked it into their belief in the Christian god. Yet they (mostly young earth creationists) won't go that far. I actually have some respect for believers who accept the science. They are far more honest than the YEC. Like the person who says they have no knack for learning a second language after spending seven hours on it. Yeah that's how learning a second language works.
In a nutshell i don't understand something (or pretending) must be God, God of the gaps, also admitting ignorance.
Nope. Still not convinced a god exists.
2:35 god just felt I needed to adapt to having O2 poor blood to humble me? Definitely an easy out with aggressive recruiters at school, though paid for most of my post education with BVR.
Mr eyepatch followed the instructions in the Bible. "If thine eye offends thee then pluck it out and cast it from thee " How did he not use both eyes?
I work in psychiatry, and actually met someone with religious delusions who DID pluck out both eyes for that very reason.
@@InigoMontoya- OMG. And religion is supposed to be comforting to the soul.
So the young lady would rather walk by faith than by sight? I bet £15 of my British pounds she doesn't cross the road with her eyes shut.
I know it wasn't Lisa, Leaf be upon Her, that designed the heart. Too many problems with it.
Are you trying to convert me into Lisa, Leaf be upon here. 'Cause I'm almost there, man.
Our friend the Ham Sandwich went as far as saying, "God makes the rules and he gets to tell you what to do," but he left the important part unspoken, as most but not all theists do. That part being, "And God put *ME* in charge of executing his will, so *I* get to make the rules and tell you what to do." It's the "I get to" part that really matters. That's all it ever has been about, that's all it ever will be about, and God is just a cheap, lazy, convenient excuse to get to that part.
Using the math that the Big Bang started from an infinitely dense singularity, time dilation also would have been infinite, making it so no time could pass until the density decreased. (It’s why some hypotheses about the trigger of the Big Bang involve quantum events that either don’t care about the direction of time or don’t inherently care about time)
There is actually no consensus that the Big Bang started from an infinitely dense singularity. That idea comes from a naive projection of General Relativity and cannot actually be demonstrated mathematically. That is why you hear physicists saying that the pre-Bang state was a "hot, dense state," not a singularity. No one knows if there was a predecessory history prior to the Big Bang era. Theists' assertion that the Big Bang was "the beginning of the universe" is pure bull$h!t that they have made up and projected onto Big Bang theory to help them work out their little Kalam syllogism. No one can give a common language description of what infinitely dilated time even means. You cannot say that it was an infinite stretch of time, as there would be no independent time to measure it as infinite against. You cannot describe it as an interval in which any event could temporally take place, quantum or otherwise. Also, it would only be infinitely dilated from our relativistic point of view, looking back at it from our frame of reference. However, the "moment" of the singularity would not contain our frame of reference or any other. There are no logical propositions that can be descriptive of such a singularity that make any intuitive sense. The theist idea that there was a "before" the singularity, a temporal period in which God created it makes no sense either. And neither does the idea that creation can be formulated as a non-temporal concept. "Creation" is fundamentally a before and after concept. Otherwise, it has no ideational content. "Outside of space and time" is a malarkey conglomeration of words. "Outside" is a spatial concept to begin with. "Outside of space" a meaningless oxymoron.
To say something exists outside of time is the same as saying it does not exist. Existence is dependent upon location and/or extension in or through space-time since space and time are inextricably linked. How can something be outside space? It's an incoherent concept.
They don't really think about the words they say, like a parrot learning how to make sounds whose meaning it doesn't understand. For example, when Ken Ham scoffed at the idea of time always having existed, as if there could be a time when time doesn't exist.
@@Krikenemp18 Ken is one of the sloppiest thinkers I've come across.
Well I mean the TARDIS has gone outside the universe on occasion.😂
"we've never seen matter produce 1 bit of information". Literally all information we have comes from matter
And information can be accumulated into growing complexity in any system where there is a flow-through of free energy.
I admire your tenacity Skep but, these are getting to be progressively harder to watch. I've run out of cringe thinking I share a planet with these people.
At this point, when I hear an argument from design I want to sing a little diddy that goes "Cars don't f#ck, cars don't f#ck, sing it along with me and admit that cars don't f#ck".
The argument from design doesn't ever notice that if there is a 'designer' than EVERYTHING is designed and so you can't point to not-design to help elaborate on the design. It becomes gibberish.
I'll take Theists say stupid things for 100 Alex.
The Eye patch is there 'cause a priest Jizzed im his eye, told him it was Gods will
Patch looked upon the balls of creation, and was punished.
The smugness he radiates when he recalls 'schooling' the boy with the idiotic "bigger, bigger, bigger god" story. It's pathetic.
Ken Ham again quote mining Richard Dawkins. Richard was answering a specific question which led to that answer.
I love how analogies are just absolutely beyond the abilities of the creationist.
So tired of the watch maker argument.
Me not yet. There are many grassy meadows round my place where I can go looking for watches as all mine are broken.🦴
Its a wibbley-wobbley, timey-wimey sort of thing.
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It is amazing how _proud_ Ken Ham is about once having managed to confuse a little child.
I cant believe for a second that anyone would call Hammy Sir, even less likely a three year old!
This sounds like one of those "this didnt actually happend" situations.
Using Ham as any sort of spokesman for an argument is like 'shooting fish in a barrel'. Its like debating with a 5yr old. The man is simple. He has read a book but lost any common sense he ever had..
In Australia a Ham is a Comedian... Enough said.
As soon as Ham says "why" he shows his argument is based on assumptions that he cannot justify.
The timing of one of the ads was perfect! "Where did god come from, if there is a god?" ad comes on, "THE TOMB OF GYSENGAX!"
The whole "needs a bigger god" logic is weird. Where did Ken Ham come from? Was there a bigger more powerful Ham that made him?
Yeah, his dad.
I can't stand those AI voices! Well done for being able to listen, analyze, and refute for us...
You can?
Must be AI too just to keep the comments flowing.
Oh yeah, and the crazy part about it, they really think they're super intelligent😂😂😂 and many of them really don't like science. Unless they can shoehorn in their invisible sky wizard .
It's crazy how they can show someone putting an engine together to show it was built and designed, but can't tell how there's a difference between knowing an engine was built and claiming everything else was also built like an engine.
5:50 - That whole "in the beginning, god did..." just demonstrates the theist's misunderstanding of "beginning" and, usually, "nothing" (due to the "created the universe from nothing" interpretation). There's a pretty good and thorough video by Sabine Hossenfelder about different "levels" of "nothing" which shows just how damn far away from an actual "nothing" the theists' understanding is 🤣
There is no absolute philosophical nothing anywhere in observational experience. Every square centimeter of the known universe is permeated with electromagnetic and gravitational fields. The whole concept of an absolute nothing is a reified artifact of semantic structure, not anything possessing any basis for believing in as a possible state.
@@donnievance1942 Of course there is no actual "nothing", that's part of the whole point. But we _can_ hypothesise about it - and even if we "just" do that, theists (who try to use that word in relation to how our universe may have come to be as it is) fail miserably.
im 60 now and i have heart disease , pretty bad , started having heart attacks at 42 , since then , ive died 4 times and had a defib put into my chest . 18 years later im told i have 3 years left before my heart packs it in , i think their god screwed up when he made my heart lol , its never beat right , and has a habit of stopping now n then , yet im meant to believe theres a god that loves me ? lmao and he created us all equal . really ?
Fine tuned …. 🙄
I have had heart issues myself, but not as bad as you. However when my dear wife resuscitated me after my heart stopped, people commented with “God saved your life”. Fuck no, he didn’t give a toss (because he doesn’t exist), my wife did.
@@Soundbrigade 100%
petition for skeptick to read the hobbit audiobook style
Noted!
Tune into the Friendly Atheist and listen to him reading the book of Revolution …. Noooo 🤔 …. Revelation and commenting it. Think there’s to be a new chapter out today.
10:56 putting aside that they only got this speculation after nagging Dawkins, given we've found basically all the materials needed for life naturally occuring on random meteors, all i'd take is one to crash into a habitable planet for things to get started.
So my perfectly fine tuned heart was missing a vital piece that the bigger bigger bigger bigger electric godly engineer in heaven obviously in his omnipotent way had missed. This small piece of wire (nerve) that would make my little ticker work day and night hadn’t been installed causing the heart to stop.
“But god saved you!!”
Hell no! No fucking god came to rescue, my dear wife brought me back to life.
Besides listening to slime-bags like Egg&Ham makes me go absolutely bazookas.
To believe in “god” saves all that hard thinking.
The eye patch is rather bizarre. I just had my stomach turn over, and it's not the coffee, I find I'm sick and tired of theists and apologists expounding on their ignorance re "the big bang". Shouty Man!
God has a plan for all of us, and wants us to prosper, but will send 90 percent to hell. Contradict much theists?
Creatard says: 'Try misspelling computer code words in a program and see what happens.'
Sane person replies: 'You've just explained why DNA is NOT a programmed code.'
Creatard: 'But... but... sputter, sputter!!!'
Ham is an excellent reminder that we need to talk to the theist and find out what they believe before disagreeing with them - not because he might be right, but because our steelman might be so charitable it no longer represents their position.
I've seen the Dawkins clip Ham is on about. He's answering a direct question and makes it clear that's not what he believes.
What a surprise Ham is deliberately trying to misrepresent it.
Another job well done, Floating Circle Guy. Thanks.😊
All three of these are going into this weeks video! :)
No! No! No! No! No! Dawkins was invited to SPECULATE about alternatives to abiogenesis on this planet. He acknowledged the problem of infinite regression. Given what we know about life on this planet, it is not out of the questions that intelligent life exists on other planets that is capable of seeding life. Incorporeal minds have not been demonstrated to exist.
Need I quote Monty Python's "The Galaxy Song" from the movie "The Meaning of Life"?
@@johndemeritt3460 "How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space
'Cause it's bugger all down here on Earth"
@@Templetonq, Moor Hen!
if the heart is designed I have some issues I'd like to report:
1. the vocal cord nerves go through the aortic arch for no reason (making the giraffes absurdly long for no reason).
2. the heart relies on itself for blood and oxygen, making it vulnerable to a downward spiral.
The Laryngeal Nerve thing gets even worse when apparently even dinosaurs had that same issue, including the long-necked dinosaurs
No Ken Ham. The question you're asked the most is, "Why are you still here & can you go away?"
Was our tax system created by God? It is truly amazing that christians make so much money building amusement parks and putting on shows in expensive buildings year after year never missing a beat while never paying a dime in taxes. Talk about the divine profit!
I am originally from KY and find it very embarrassing that Ken Ham, Kim Davis, Mitch McConnell, James Comer and Rand Paul live in KY. I don’t know how you ended up in KY but, you give me hope for the average IQ and gullibility of the people living there. Thanks to you and Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe. 🌈
My wife, also atheist, is from KY. My step daughter is almost 10 and is a non-believer. A lot of our friends are also no believers. There seem to be pockets of non-believers… maybe there’s hope for KY yet 😅
U can always win an argument when all you are doing is asking rhetorical questions to a video
As soon as he said the miraculous workings of the heart proves god, my mind immediately questioned, "Isn't heart disease the leading cause of death?"
"We've never seen matter produce one bit of information." DNA is matter. By excluding DNA as an example of matter that contains information, he's making his argument circular.
Isaiah "god has plan for you"...
A few lines before that it makes it explicit that is was talking about the enslaved nation of Israel.
So, unless you're that in very specific group at a very specific time, god doesn't have a plan for you.
Two types of Creationists:
1) Stupid or uneducated people
2) Those who don't believe it but see an opportunity to milk those who do
Ken Ham is a Type 1) and Kunt Hovind is a Type 2).
I love that he tried to explain infinite regression in such simple terms
Anyone else noticed that Ken Ham never actually answers *that* question that he receives a lot?
That question being; "What created God? /Where did God come from?"
He immediately flips the question into "Does god exist? Answer; Yes! Muh book says so." followed with a smug grin.
That wasn't the question, Ken!