Anakin's New Teachings for Ahsoka are Brutal...
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Disney has always played a huge role in shaping the minds of audiences especially younger generation. The lesson Anakin teaches Ahsoka here is not something I would've ever expected from the franchise, it's pretty old school and harsh.
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Some times I wish angry anakin would visit me in my dream and tell me to get my act together
This makes sense in a way, but the question is: "Have you seen enough for his method to work? Or have you seen too much?" - His method worked on Ahsoka, because he knew Snips better than anyone else. If he appears in your dream, does he know you enough?
@@dherianProfound question.
I have cried quite a bit over this episode precisely for the simple truth that Anakin was brutally trying to convey to Ashoka: live or die.
There are times when we NEED that spoken bluntness in our lives…but it only works well when the person being blunt is doing so because they LOVE us and know us well. Anakin showing up in a dream of mine being this blunt wouldn’t work so well for me. It was what Ashoka needed though. It was beautiful.
Ayo???
Ahsoka the White emerges to help find the one admiral that would rule us all.
She's returned at the turn of the tide!
I’m really hoping all this leads to a retcon😅 or at the very least an alternate trilogy story
I see wut u did ther.
@@videogameaddict4041 I might be wrong, but I was scrolling through my feed here a day or two ago and thought I saw a video with a title that basically said that this show had done it. 🤷🏻
@@appo9357 I can recall a similar video title too, I didn’t watch the video but I find it hard to see how they retconned it this far 🤔 to me it just seems like they’re avoiding the elephant in the room as best they can but haven’t directly changed said future…we shall see what happens with Thrawns return, maybe it’s the First Order still but lead by Thrawn and not that whiny stitch
I respect Filoni for keeping the world between worlds to be a more abstract presence in the cannon. We never ask how luke fought himself as Darth Vader in the swamp of dagobah! The point of it is to visually represent the internal struggles of the characters and that’s why both cases work without needing a detailed explanation. IMO, at least
I wonder if he knew back than that one day his Rebels story would continue on live action
@@GenerationTech George wanted all the animation stuff to be canon, so I'm sure he knew it might at least be referenced, after all it's hard to say any of it would even see the light of day outside of the cartoons especially after George sold to Disney.
@@TheRealAlpha2 Rebels was entirely disney. I wonder if the ewok show is cannon
@minivan_hobo I like the idea of it not needing deeper exposition in a show, because I like the idea that show writers have the confidence to let a story stand as it’s presented, and that they can trust the audience to figure it out for themselves. Funnily enough, that’s just the way Anakin presented the lesson and how Ahsoka figured it out.
As an aside, I also find it frustrating that some people are wanting, needing a scene that shows Ahsoka and Luke talking about their pasts and what her relationship with Anakin was like. To me that would be boring television, and we’ve already seen it before - there’s 7 seasons of a show that explains this very topic better than a scene built to appease the fans ever will. Huyang’s description of Anakin to Hera was perfect: intense.
To me those moments represent the cosmic force in someone's mind.
It was a lesson she needed. All that guilt, sadness, shame she harbored for decades. It’s traits that lead to the dark side. Anakin didn’t want her to fall like he did. Once Ahsoka got a taste of that side when she flash the yellow eyes, and chose to change her perspective on life and live.
did her eyes flash red? i thought she was just getting close to the red blade and it reflected in her eyes
You speak with wisdom friend 🙂
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even if so, it is a nice visual play on her having redish eyes @@insertcognomen
@@insertcognomenIt was a bit ambiguous, I believe on purpose.
Anakin taught her the same lesson that Luke taught him. That though she could never be rid of the weight of her past and her traumas and her mistakes, perceived or otherwise, she doesn’t have to let those things define her future. Hence the callbacks to the final fight between Luke and Vader. “I won’t fight you.” “I’ve heard that before.” And Ahsoka throwing away the lightsaber when she had Anakin at her mercy just like Luke did, and how Anakin *didn’t* when he had Dooku at his mercy.
I think you're spot on! I just realized that it doesn't matter what you have lost, gained or what situation you find yourself in without your permission. It matters who you are.
It matters who and what you chose to be ^^ @@user-cl5vx9em4e
When he says "ive heard that before" this is how i know that it wasnt just a manifestation of the force or just of her subconcious. It really was him. Ahsoka has no idea what went down between Luke and Vader in the final moments of RotJ. So if was just a subconcious menifestaion, then why would he say that? because she was never there, therefore it really was Anakin.
@@Gnarwolf Also, I think Jacen confirmed it to her by saying he heard them fighting. until that point she wasn't sure it was real, that's why she smiled.
What? Man yall are reaching. Anakin shows up. Says I have a lesion to teach you "life or death" (thats the Bible by the way) and then assaults her twice. Oh and he loses twice. All the flashbacks were to teach her the lesion of "live?" He assaults her just so she can say "I choose life." (Bible again) Come on... Seeing Anakin was supper cool and they did it masterfully witch is why it sucked so bad. They made it look so great is the hopes that soyboys would just say "yay Vader, Yay flashing lights, yay light sabers." Why didn't Anakin teach her how to use the force in an effort to find the lost ship? I mean that would be Star Wars. Luke went into the cave to fight his father only to find out it was himself. The meaning was huge, deep and very well written. But no Anakin assaulted Ahsoka so she would come to realize she wanted to live? I mean come on where is the writing? Question.. And Im being serious. Why spend billions on a ring ship with large hyper drives if you can just "Dory talk" and jump in the mouth of a freaking space whale? Stop taking up for this plot convenience BS. Ahsoka admitted she has no clue where she is going with no plan or any way to do anything. But NOOOOOOOOO soyboys will just keep taking up for this garbage writing. Yay flashy lights!!!!!!!
This was Anakin channeling Vader’s power. To help Ahsoka “overcome” Vader (her guilt). This is how I know this is the real Anakin. Only he would give Ahsoka a lesson like this cause he had to overcome Vader himself to beat Palpatine
Interesting how the dark iside isnt as taboo as it used to be...now that those meddling jedi aren't around to police everyone ;)
Ahsoka needed to confront Vader so Anakin gave her Vader. He needed to tap into his darkness to help his padawan survive.
@@jiffypoo5029 yep, just like Obi-Wan needed it. I used to think Obi-Wan getting it made no sense, but now it feels like a necessity.
pretty sure Obi-wan tapped into love to power up his light side powers. @@theechoproject899
Watching Hayden's portrayal here, I don't just see him interpreting animated Anakin interpreting prequel Anakin. I see Vader, fully formed Anakin who died in his middle age on the Death Star killed by Palpatine to rescue his son. This is redeemed balanced Anakin/Vader. Even the way he speaks is very much a melding of Vader's terse sarcasm and Anakin's more enthusiastic but still tough personality. The way he says "Then you'll die" was pure Vader, for example.
I have to appreciate Hayden evoking Matt Lanter’s accent in the Clone Wars scenes (at least that how it seems to me 😊)
He perfectly blended elements from the prequels the clone wars and OT Vader seamlessly in one performance. And how natural his choreography is he feels like he's really knows what he's doing and not just acting out a sequence which gives the flair of choreographed fighting while remaining grounded. He's clearly put a lot of work into this performance.
I legit thought it was a matt lanter voice over at first lol. Sounds exactly like him at some points.
18:02 Anakin and Ahsoka standing side by side, arms crossed in contentment is just such a treat to see. Dave Filoni really brought the Clone Wars show to life in these scenes. And seeing Hayden play Anakin again is great. I was so busy nerding out during this episode, it's not even funny
I wonder how weird it is for Hayden to play this version of Anakin. He's basically acting a characterization of Anakin from the Clone Wars tv show that is based on his characterization from the movies.
@@Devillinhe seemed comfortable, wouldn’t call it totally seamless but it’s obvious he takes it seriously.
@@Psyfi85 I agree. Though I feel it's less about his acting and actually taking on those... Shifts in persona, as it were. But it's the way Hayden's voice has shifted over the last 20 years. On looks, (Talking outside the light bit of a CGI glow up, which honestly looked way better in the episode over the shot at the end of 4.) he hasn't aged poorly at all. Not as well as Ewan McGregor. But... That man is another Hollywood vampire xD Anyways. I don't know if he did or took up smoking, or just had the unlucky draw. He sound closer to 60 without rasp and harsh wear, than he does 40 something.
@@Meravokas yeah I get you, he’s definitely got the Ralph Macchio gene. And he was a smoker especially prior to and during prequels, not sure if he gave it up though.
@@Meravokaswhat’s funny thouhh huh is I think his jawline looks more like the clone wars version of anakin, and his voice older and deeper sounds a bit more like the clone wars
When people tell their kids that they are 'special' it should be in the sense that they are uniquely themselves and there is no-one else exactly like them. Not that things revolve around them or go their way. This is something very important for kids to hear. Just like what the Jedi told the clones. They aren't just numbers, they are unique despite being a copy of some one else.
That’s a good point
Ironically i find quite a few clones to be the most unique characters in modern media. To be an individual of significance despite literally being a carbon & dna copy of someone else speaks to me.
Yes I think that's what people mean when they tell their children they are special. That they are worthy of respect and love as human beings. Not that everything should go their way and they're little princes. The latter is teaching entitlement. And that's not what most parents do.
@@JenniferKokoskicough *Sheldon Cooper* cough
@@JenniferKokoski u should tell the kids that
Seeing Hayden get the respect he deserves is such an incredible moment in time. He’s always been a fantastic actor
What I am so grateful for is that Anakin isn't just a memory. He really is changed. An old wise spirit. He is both Anakin AND Vader now. And I am surprised that no one has said anything about this but... he was able to save the ones he loved from dying. Although he is a spirit. It feels so real when he switches from light to dark. I hope that is what he teaches Ashoka since he is the only one we have seen do something like this.
Whats most beautiful is that he didn’t save Ahsoka from dying. Instead, he taught her how to save herself.
On rewatch, holy smokes, Ariana Greenblatt is an amazing young actor. She put so much delivery into a cameo role covered with makeup and prosthetics AND combat choreography. Dave Filoni did well with child actors, Jacen could have been thankless but Evan Whitten hits a good balance.
Yeah she had moxy
Ditto. She delivers her lines with the conviction of a person that is invested in the character. I would have expected that only from from Ashley Eckstein. BZ to Ariana.
She also played young Gamora in Infinity War. She's a very talented young actress. Able to put so much emotion and meaning into her lines. Keep an eye on her for the future. She's only going to get better and better.
@@JenniferKokoskiI knew she looked familiar!
@@GenerationTechStill love that she was Young Gamora in Infinity War
I loved when he looked at her annoyed and asked “That’s what this is about?”. Like, really, you’re still mad about the Vader thing? 😂
I think the lesson he taught her was right on point…”Live or die.” In this case, get past your feelings of guilt or die as a result of them. Accept the past in order to live in the present. That was the lesson that he always taught her, how to survive. And this particular lesson fit perfectly with the lesson he taught her in Tales of the Jedi against the clones…”Live or die.” It’s reminiscent of that scene in The Shawshank Redemption when Andy tells Red just before his escape, “Get busy living or get busy dying.” That’s what it boils down to, she had to choose to live, no matter what her past was and no matter what her future has in store for her. She chose to live and in doing so became Ahsoka the White.
Anakin went from troubled peacekeeper to a military hero to a tyrant. Ashoka’s journey seems to be to change from a child soldier to an explorer of a new galaxy. I can’t wait to see it!!!
It was cool to see Hayden Christiansen do some real acting for a change. In the prequels he had just two emotions: sullen and angry.
I thought the guy couldn't act, but maybe the directors just didn't let him show any range as young Anakin.
He brought some real emotional depth to this performance.
he's in jumper and he recently did a rom com called little italy i think
Hayden can definitely act, I'd recommend seeing "Shattered Glass." It's based on a real-life journalist (played by him) who is eventually revealed to be making up all the stories he writes for a national magazine. It's like watching a train wreck as his deceptions are revealed, and Hayden does a damn good job.
As for his acting in the Prequels, even though I'm fine with his portrayal as Anakin, I can understand why he came off as dull for some people. I think the Clone Wars portrayal of Anakin really saved the character for a lot of people, and I think Hayden could have easily portrayed Anakin more like his animated counterpart (as Ahsoka proved)
@@Cobra1098Rosario Dawson stars on that movie too!
I'd also been waiting to see some emotive acting from Rosario, and we finally got it at 20:17 - she communicates the weight of 30 years of very complicated feelings without a single word. It's a beautiful thing.
I think a lot of it has to do with the script
I think Anakin was at peace with himself but he's able to acknowledge what he has done and what he has become. His legacy as a jedi was just as important as his legacy as a sith so I think this just depicts him coming to terms with the anger inside him and he's able to control it. I think the flashes and glimmers and transition of him becoming Darth Vader throughout the episode was just a way for Ashoka to realize that if she doesn't change the path she's on, she'll either die or end up like he did.
“I laugh because I must not cry” I always loved that Lincoln quite and I feel like anakin would feel the same. Humor is just a way to keep going.
As soldiers, we often noted "If it wasn't for dark humor we'd have no humor at all."
I think Ahsoka really was in the World-Between-Worlds. Two main points: One, Anakin didn't remember the siege of Mandalore. If he were just a figment of Ahsoka's imagination, that probably wouldn't be the case. Two: Jacen was able to **hear** the lightsaber battle taking place in the other world. If the whole thing was just a fever dream in Ahsoka's head, I don't think Jacen would have picked up on it the way he did.
Great remark, my son said something similar, he also wondered why Hera could hear it, too. We essentially agreed that Jacen projected what he heard into her mind, because the alternative would be a bit silly. Hera being force sensitive makes sense, as her talent as a pilot was completely outlandish for her time, but making everyone even a bit force sensitive cheapens the deal a lot.
What I loved was Carson´s reaction to Jacen "having powers", he´s like... "Whatever, I´ve seen so many weird things recently..." Remember: This man is a veteran who knew the legend of Luke Skywalker and has met Baby Yoda (I will never not call him that!). He knows he´s in over his head, but he does what he can.
@@dherian Yeah Teva's reaction was priceless. He's quickly becoming one of my favorite recurring secondary sharacters, I hope they do more with him in the future, and make him more prominent than just being "X-Wing guy" (I think they've set themselves up to do so with Mando S3).
@@andyb1653I squealed when I saw Teva in the last episode! I love how he is, in a sense, a regular soldier getting to be a part of the larger story as it is developing. He’s a moral guy attempting to make the best decisions when complicated situations come his way.
Teva’s been in every show so far (except Andor). He feels like he represents us (the SW multi-generational audience). He’s not a fancy force user, war hero or some high influence political person. He’s a normal someone who signed up to sacrifice and work to help make the galaxy a better place for people who suffered under the Empire’s rule.
Teva is us in live action form and it’s fun to see this universe from his perspective!
It would have been better if Jace had touched Hera's hand before she could here it.
Anakin was never at the siege of mandalor which is why he said “I don’t remember this battle”
I'm a little bit disappointed that so many people are just not understanding Anakin's message. Media literacy seems to be a dying skill. I thought it was obvious. He was showing her, not telling her, but SHOWING her (as he so often did as her mentor in the clone wars) that she had a simple choice to make. But while the choice was simple, the path to that choice would be hard and painful. You could choose to live, truly live. Or die. I don't think Anakin WANTED her to choose the latter, so he went as all out on her as he could. To make her see that life was worth living. That the Disaster Lineage isn't just about pain and loss and tragedy. But about hope. Hope for the future. Luke represents that. Rey represents that. Ahsoka herself represents that.
Yeah no one wants to think anymore more especially my generation gen z
@@marielawrence468 ugh and yet yall love making fun of us millennials like your generation has become boomerfied lol
rey doesn't represent hope, she's just trying to find out who she is
@@idiocrat3744 yes, in part. But you forget how optimistic she was in _The Last Jedi_ when convincing Luke to train her.
"it was a jedi master who was responsible for the training and creation of darth vader."
She _immediately_ counters "And it was a Jedi who saved him."
She buried Anakin's saber and Leia's saber in the sands of Tatooine and it's a full circle moment for Anakin...I always used to make fun of it, but now I've come to realize, that by burying his saber next to Luke's home, he's in a sense, reunited with his own mother. Tells me she has good foresight and understanding and appreciation for the past. She's almost like a kid again when she gets to Tatooine, in fact. With the way she slides down the sand dunes. And that's what that planet does to all of us as well. Make us feel like a kid first exposed to this franchise.
Not to mention she herself put Anakin's saber back together after having a hand in tearing it in two. Tells me she always has a hope of fixing things, of making them better and whole. She's got quite a lot of characterization there. If you look for it. If you pay attention.
As a person who has mental health issues and has had a lot of counseling, I can tell you it's pretty on point. While not as messy as real life (its wrapped up neatly in a nice little plot, reality is not so kind) the whole episode is about trauma. Ignoring or forgetting it is never a solution (and usually impossible anyway), so how do you move forward and live with it. This whole episode is the answer for how Ahsoka does that. Also, sidenote the Media literacy thing has been a problem for a while, so much of high-level film making is "show don't tell" but if you do that these days a large portion of your audiences misses the body language or tone and goes "I don't get it". Go the other way and just say it to the audience and they get mad about bad writing. It's a bit of a "lose lose" scenario. Not really defending bad writing or Star Wars in general here. Just saying after the strike if I was a writer on a high concept show or movie, I would be pulling my hair out.
It's clear Anakin was always trying to help Ahsoka, if he wanted to kill her he would have kept her in the siege of Mandalor where his bonus damage against younglings is still active.
Is it bad this made me laugh?
@@GeminiKnight76 if it's bad it's my fault for making the joke in the first place lol
One thing I noticed was that before falling into the water Ahsoka dressed in grey and after the time with Anakin she was Ahsoka the white. Brought back memories of Lord of the Rings.
It's not so much him teaching her as any version of Anakin to say...it's him teaching her as The Chosen One. A true balance in the force, and the ability to at the same time, wield the light and the dark. This is The Father teaching The Daughter to embrace her true destiny, and release the cloud lingering over her. Hence why after this ordeal, she emerges as Ahsoka the White...she embraced it, and emerged a pure light side being. I think "Move Forward" is the real message here from the force.
I see a lot of people, thinking that balance means wielding both light and dark.
But even in the Mortis arc, I don’t believe the father was controlling both.
Balance means removing the darkness from the light. Or at least that’s what Lucas has indicated when he created the original trilogy.
I always saw the father fighting against the sun to sort to corrupt. That darkness by itself will not just stay and be dormant, but to seek to destroy, so, the fight for the balance is to be fighting against the darkness.
Lots of people say that in Ahsoka fight coma, she was unbalanced fighting Baylon. But the conflict of darkness is what did that, right?
With Anakin teaching her, I don’t see it as him using the dark side to fight. I think this was her great trial. No different than when Kanan in Rebels and his knighthood, or Luke in Degobah.
She was confronted by manifestations of her fear, anger, hate, pain.
So idk. I don’t see Anakin using the dark side as a teacher for good. Because the Dark side has never been used for good. And those who venture down there don’t hold to the light.
Idk. Interesting mythos and philosophies to ponder.
As one star wars fan to another, appreciate your post
The lightsaber combat alone was better then the entire sequel trilogy
Hayden really puts the work in for the lightsaber fights almost looks effortless.
Yea Hayden after all this time is still a badass. I wish we could've gotten more over the years with him. Still time for more, but idk if there are any actors who can match Ewan McGregor and Haydens commitment to the lightsaber fights.
@@j-s-mhe really was awesome
@@craigcowie3671 he was always my favorite I never understood the hate he got before
It was brutal, but Anakin knew that she needed some tough love at this point.
I think Anakin is way more than just a force ghost He became a force deity that maintains the balance especially when you take the Morris arc in account it makes a lot of sense
The young boy inside my dead heart was pleased with this episode
The fact that his eyes weren’t yellow and red makes me believe that Anakins Ghost has made peace with his dark side. And the dark side flowed through him like a river cutting stone instead of trying to bend the dark side of the force to his will. True Balance
Highly underrated, and IMO true
Well, actually, george lucas original vision of the force is that the dark side is the corruption of the force..The Light Side is the Force is it's pure original state.. The dark side Comes from People Attempting to Bend the force to their Will.
The dark side is evil and unnatural.
Maybe in that moment after she ‘took’ the saber he finally made peace with it. Like the duel reference of Luke tossing his blade away and Ahsokas refusal mirroring.
Yeah, I was about to say. This was not about Anakin making peace with himself. This was all about Ahsoka. Anakin is the balance and will continue being the chosen one for all time.
no no. Anakins eyes did go yellow with red in them at various times, especially when he finally lit the red saber
Even in a Galaxy far far away. Child soldiers suffering from PTSD should not be forgotten along with the regular troops.
I was impressed they finally brought up the "child soldier" padawans, and how messed up it was for the jedi to just expect them to fight in a war with them. Ahsoka fought in hundreds of battles, she probably has the worst PTSD in the galaxy.
These last two episodes created a new star wars vibe while also following the prequel and clone wars. Made me really enjoy SW again
Anakin was teaching Ahsoka one final lesson
I feel like Anakin understood what he was at that point, but he needed to step up harder (as was his nature) for Ahsoka to understand it too. He's tainted by the dark side, and she gets hung up on that, but he was also a good teacher for her as much as she was good for his balance. So in the end she realized he was more than his dark side and she pulled him back from the darkness. ...Balance was achieved.
The training is certainly unorthodox. But it seems to be what she needed to survive and grow as the galaxy around her changed.
Gotta disagree with your points on the World Between Worlds a bit.
I think it has to be a physical realm like in Rebels that Ahsoka entered after she fell, because if not she certainly would have drowned. Like completely.
Also Jason can actually here her and Anakin fighting in the WBW through the force. And they are only able to find and detect Ahsoka again after she re-enters reality when her and Anakin were through. (The X-Wings were literally searching the same area over and over lol)
So yeah whether Anakin pulled her in, or she just fell into it because of her connection with the daughter, or the planet being some kind of force nexus. She definitely entered a different realm physically.
Exactly. She was in the water for far too long for her to not be dead.
I agree with you! Only thing I will say is Ezra got his kyver Crystal in the WBW. And when he, Kanan, and Ahsoka go into the temple and Kanan gets knighted in Season 2, Ezra sees Yoda and the background is the WBW. Not a clear as Season 4, for sure.
So it’s possible that one could be there and not be there at the same time.
But I agree with you, she was there. And hera and Jacen could hear it cause it cause happening there where she got pulled in
Episode 5 was a massive callback to the CW, Filioni managed to knock it out of the water.
I think it's purposefully done in such a way that it's open-ended. ... Anakin being the Father from the Mortis episode isn't plainly off the table just as much as it can be an abstract mental dimension for the sake of a larger audience. ... Well done ✨
Completely setup that they could blast out a comic or a Tales Of The Jedi episode of Anakin as the Father down the line.
Excellent series all around. ... Those flashback scenes were unreal
I believe that the world between worlds is where you go when you’re a force ghost, which is why Palps wanted in so bad. Here Ahsoka isn’t physically entering the WBW but instead force ghost Anakin is sending her a vision from the WBW
I think the dialog between Anakin and Ahsoka offers material we can plumb for quite some time. The advice for Ahsoka is the same for all of us: Live or die. You choose. You will have pain. We all do, and we all will. It's relative, to be sure, but pain is our lot in life. A superb aphorism: "Pain of Discipline or Pain of Regret: You choose." The greater extent to which we discipline ourselves in our struggles, the fewer the regrets we will have. I wonder if Alan was a soldier? He sure seems to understand that mindset.
A true wielder of the force, a balance not seen since the time of Revan. I hope to see Ahsoka have to deal with Darth Vaders secret apprentice at some point. The Antithesis to Ahsoka, and her one true equal. Be a cool second season subplot, also Sam Witwer deserves some live action screen time more than anyone especially for arguably his most famous star wars character.
Anakin: "Ahsoka, sweetie, you're gonna have to learn to change and adapt if you want to survive."
Vader: "LITTLE GIRL I AIN'T PLAYIN WITH YOU!"
Force visions always seem to be a powerful experience for those that receive one. Ahsoka's vision is as powerful as the one Luke receives. Ahsoka doesn't want to turn out like master but she has to understand that a Jedi has to adjust to the times around them and find balance in themselves in order to survive.
I love how cryptic and mysterious the teaching is, more in line with Yoda and Luke in Empire than the straight motivational bullshit of the sequels. To me what Anakin taught Ahsoka is that she needs to get over her guilt and pain for the past in order to be the teacher Sabine needs at the moment. This had the effect of snapping Ahsoka out of that emotional numbness she was in. I would expect her to be more empathetic to Sabine, but we'll see.
Great to see Anakin again. Also was this the first time he has used a red lightsaber whilst not wearing the Vader suit?
It was, yeah.
It’s a glimpse of how powerful he would’ve been had he not become a cyborg.
Technically we also have alternate ending revenge of the sith video game Anakin too.
@RelinquishedSoul correct, but he wielded a red lightsaber with the Vader hilt in the video game. In the series, he is wielding anakins hilt that was given to Luke but with both red and blue crystal colors.
@@RelinquishedSoulyeah, I think he can use a red blade in the duel mode as a palette swap as well! That game was fun.
It’s funny how I took almost the opposite interpretation of the lesson. I thought it was highlighting their differences (like NOT doing anything to win) to tell Ahsoka she is different from him, makes different choices and is not doomed to follow his path.
I think the single bladed form 5 stance ahsoka was using represents ahsokas urge to end a fight quick with a killing blow like how she did with morok. Baylon seemed open to talk and negotiate we really dont even know his motives yet, but ahsoka immediately met him head on with that blunt form 5 style with the intent to kill Baylon. I think this episode's lesson is to fight, but dont get consumed by the fight, or you might end up like darth vader. I think ahsoke had gotten too caught up in the fight and was driven by her fear of thrawn returning. She was willing to cut down baylon and lose ezra without even taking a moment to asses the full situation or to think of other possible solutions.
I love how you associate real world conversations with star wars conversations especially the bit about competition and academics. It's refreshing! Other channels mostly do memes, and I like relating it back to the real world a bit more.
I will watch the video in a moment, but I had to say that I appreciate how you did a video right after the episode aired, and yet did another one after sleeping over it. I have NO idea, what I will find in it, but I have nothing but the highest respect for your work ethic and your passion for this.
I would say the taught toughness is something that varies depending on where you're from. I accepted parts of it as a kid because I'm from a small farm town. And i got knocked around in sports plenty. Tore my knee up before my last season of tennis. Changed what path i thought i wanted to follow more than once.
Thought-provoking insights as always from you. Guilt led Ahsoka to detachment as a coping mechanism. Anakin’s lesson to me is about how Ahsoka needs to engage - to choose to live, to fight, and connect. The force is connection and Ahsoka cut herself off from others. Fighting with the clones reminds her of the power of connection and the stakes of the fight. The change in Ahsoka is what will unlock Sabine in the force. Kanan in Rebels: “The Force resides in all living things, but you have to be open to it. Sabine is blocked, her mind is conflicted. She’s so expressive and yet so tightly wound. She can’t or won’t find balance within herself.” Ahsoka has now found that balance within, and will guide Sabine to balance, and the force.
I hope she realizes that coping mechanism is part of the reason the Jedi were the way the were in the Clone wars. That now she is repeating the same mistakes they were.
They've already said an interview that when yoda was talking to Ezra, they were in the world between worlds, but because as was still kind of naive and new, he just saw it as an open space, which implies that it's different for everyone or it appears different for everyone.
That’s cool. So Ezra’s looked different cause his path was to find Ahsoka and bring her there.
His required doorways to find her.
But Ahsoka’s different cause she’s not there to view doorways. She’s there to train.
@Bacontats possible but the way I saw it was that every force weider uses and sees it differently due people tend to see the world differently so it shapes itself to the individual
Season 4 Ezra was wrapped up in his past losts his parents ashoka and kaanan and his regrets ashoka was wrapped in guilt and worry that she'd become like vader so she sees a bunch of paths with one dead ending with anakin standing there to teach her (granted just a theory)
When anakin said “that what this is about” it gave off uncle vibes to me at least 💀
We need motivation, competition is a motivator
Injured from her fall, subconsciously she is drawn to her old master in the same place she last saw him, hoping to find some guidance in finding her way through the challenges she's up against.
Great vid! I see the World Between Worlds as a sort of purgatory. I don't think it'll ever have a clear definition and I don't think it needs one. More along the lines of cosmic Force type stuff that's not literal
This episode was the deepest Star Wars had ever been. This is David Lynch level deep. I am so happy for that fact. Dave Filoni is making cinema, when almost no one does. And i hope it gets appreciated, where it counts!
Imagine she finds thrawn and teams up with him. Awsome!!!
I think the fog of memory was a good choice. I mean it's decades later for her. The background details would have long since washed out to make room for new stuff.
I was in tears this brought me back to when Ahsoka left the Jedi
I like to think another possibility is that once you've gone to the World Between Worlds once, it's much easier to go there again. But frankly I also love the ambiguity. I think the Force is at it's best when we know there are some things that can't be fully explained. Plus the Force is just as much about spirituality and states of being as it is about cool space magic stuff. And this episode was very, very much about both those things
Hey Alan! I finally realized the most appropriate thing to say to you: if you aren't already, you're gonna be a great dad.
I'm watching this video for a second time, it has been a few month since Ahsoka ended and just now I realised that this lesson Anakin's teaching her is complementary to the first lesson her mother taught her, the one we saw in Tales of the Jedi about death being an aspect of life. In an amazing landscape filled with life she took her to hunt and showed her the dying creature and how they honoured the animal from who they took life for them to live. I can't remember the exact words but essentially she confronted Ahsoka with the reality of death and the fragility of life and what it sometimes takes to survive. Anakin seems to be there to refresh her mother's lesson.
I keep re watching that episode cause it was amazing. Hayden did such a great job at bringing CW Anakin to life from his manners to his voice and the choreographies of the fights are so cool. Ariana was incredible as young Ahsoka too. Fan service? Maybe, but d*mn it was well done!
Since when did watching your videos teach me more about life than star wars
Your reflections on the reality of our own world and the real challenges we all face are spot-on. Really well said.
I’m convinced that when Luke entered Yoda’s cave on Dagobah, was actually within the World Between Worlds.
Trainspotting with lightsabers. The dark years of Master Obi Wan.
Choose Life.
I hadn't really thought about this until now, but my coworker and I were discussing what Sabine and Ahsoka are going to find on the other side, and we felt that it won't be what Sabine is expecting. I'm partial to the idea that Thrawn and Ezra will be allied with one another, either that or Ezra is dead...
1 loved the video keep ‘em coming, also seeing anakin live action clone war era armour made my childhood come true couldn’t believe it, also seeing young ashoka and anakin was crazy good
Excellent analysis and perspective. Thank you.
16:00 THIS HAS TO BE REPEATED OVER AND OVER! Incredible video like always Allen! Love your comentary!
He has the best SW channel
Allen, When I first found your channel, I thoroughly enjoyed your content. Now, I have grown to anticipate them and have excitement for new content. Great Job! That's impressive and I appreciate your efforts, knowledge, humor and wit. Every video I watch the more I want to buy you lunch. Keep up the good work, no pressure...
This man understands Star Wars 🤩
It was such a good episode. I busted out laughing when Anakin dropped her through the floor. That's definitely a Sky Guy move
It’s revenge because she did that to him first in Rebels 💀💀
@@josueroberto7356 yeah but just the way he said what he did then just non chalantly
As for the competition thing kinda agree, after rewatching the episode I rewatched the training episode of tales of the Jedi and its all about wanting her to compete to survive.
The consistent uploads have been nice
im rly starting to love these vids ever since you started watching/analyzing the asoka series. all these lessons to learn all these parallels you can draw from reality its good to see.
This is one of my favorite TH-cam channels ever. I love how he talks about Star Wars while giving real life lessons and advice.
One of your best videos…. It’s good to see your passion for Star Wars has returned.
Very nice analysis! Made me revisit these scenes…
You're a very wise young man. You're right, no generation is 100% right and no generation is 100% wrong. We all deal with the world in our own way. We make mistakes and we make good decisions as well. Great video mate. Cheers
Ahsoka needs to find her own way, her own balance in the Force.
She might have left the Order, but as Anakin says, there is legacy of countless masters and apprentices within her.
It is most important for her to avoid falling into trap of absolutes - because once you see something as absolute good (e.g. preventing Thrawns return...) you can justify almost any evil committed in the quest to defend that good.
BEST breakdown of this episode BY FAR 👌🏼🙏🏽💪🏽
Love the MC helmet! well done!
As for this particular episode of Ashoka, I loved it. Having Hayden Christensen return (even with the funky de-aging and his funkier Canadian accent...:) was awesome. Baylan Skoll's observation that her legacy from Anakin was one of death and destruction. Her own fear that she would follow Anakin's path to the Dark Side. Anakin switching between his Blue and Red Sabres. His reminder that she has inherited a legacy, but how she uses that legacy is up to her. To borrow a phrase from another franchise " no destiny but what we make.
Amazing take bro. As someone who is going through the lowest point of my life. Your words really spoke to me. THANK YOU! I chose to LIVE.
Allen once again with the greatest takes on life, culture, and Star Wars.
Thank-you, sincerely, from this Elder Millennial.
I really liked you using the term "Shatter Point" ... Still have this silly smile on my face...
It seems like World Between Worlds is an actual place you can go, or the gateway between life and death. Anakin wasn't just in her head. That's for sure.
His teaching were always brutal (like how he had the clones keep stunning her until she could go 5 minutes).
I don't know why, but the slow pan to Filoni's shoes was super funny to me. Top notch editing, lol
This is a great breakdown of this episode and really shows understanding of not only Star Wars but life in general
Cool video. I think that you're spot on in what you said. Your explanation of the 5th episode of the ahsoka series is highly insightful. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
Aha….. the “I Didn’t think I’d see you so soon “ line meant losing a saber fight?
The title for this episode and the lesson reminded me of people working on their psychological issues. They are called shadow warriors for embracing their shadow self. Psychoanalyst Carl Jung popularized the idea of the shadow self and he believed one's shadow holds repressed thoughts and feelings. Our shadow self arises from past experiences due to shadow emotions derived from sadness, anger, fear, anxiety, embarrassment, shame and disgust. So Ahsoka is the Shadow Warrior as she deals with her shadow self represented by her master, the key creator of her shadow self, she needs to embrace and come to terms with rather than avoiding or destroying which only leads to anyone's downfall.
"All Anakin did was pick up a geriatric sith lord and throw him down a trash chute."
Best line I've ever heard on this channel man haha
thank you for calling the portals in WBW Shatterpoints! so many people seem to think you can see any point in time, but it's really just the ones that have major impacts on history as a whole (and possibly one's personal history, i'm not sure) so unless you had a burrito that changed the fate of the galaxy, you aren't going to be able to see that moment in time
I don't know how you can even call this Star Wars, all these lightsaber fights and not one person has lost a hand! Not even a finger!
Dude you're tied with Stupendous Wave for my favorite Star Wars TH-cam personality
It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a Gardner in a war.
it's important to be strong: physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. That doesn't mean you have to use that strength to bend others to your will, but so you can be prepared to defend yourself and those you care about in times of strife.
Anakin is proud of snips.
Love the video my only disagreement with your take is that Anakin didn’t come to peace with himself. I think he absolutely did as evidenced by him being able to comment on his own life and legacy as well as being able to use the dark side of Vader then, after the lesson was taught, reclaim himself. Ashoka needed the kick to get her head on straight and both sides of Anakin were needed to do it. That’s only my take though.