Ahsoka Tano is the First Jedi Ronin
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- Ahsoka Tano represents a unique type of jedi, one that we've never seen before in live action, she's a Ronin. Dave Filoni is falling in the footsteps of George Lucas by taking inspiration from Samurai culture and I have to say the Ronin label fits Ahsoka very well.
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She started essentially as a child soldier. Being thrust into a war as a child has to be traumatizing as it is. Add to the rest, it is lucky she did not turn out like Barriss Offee.
Think it speaks more about the social circle that Ahsoka was lucky to have gained through the likes of Anakin, Rex, Padme, Obi-Wan, etc, which helped provide a sense of stability and found family for her during the bulk of the Clone War. Compared to Barriss who only had her traditionalist master Luminara who more or less passively neglected Offee’s mental needs as a student during a time of war and violence.
Exactly. @@manofmercy1500
I think it is why it is so important that Ahsoka left the Jedi Temple. As difficult a decision as it must have been, I think leaving saved her. If Ahsoka Tano had stayed, I worry that she might have been either killed or turned to the Dark Side. Like Anakin or perhaps Barriss?
Ahsoka like many have said prioritizes the core teachings of the jedi over tradition and procedure.
Yep exactly. Filoni and Rosario have said that she represents "the best of the Jedi" (Google their Vanity Fair interview).
Fans have no idea what they're talking about and think the reason why Ahsoka is special is because she is 50% dark side 50% light side.
That's not true - she literally becomes an avatar of the light when she dies and is resurrected in the Clone Wars.
@@matthewk4912 She carries the spirit of the Jedi Order without the trappings of dogma and bureaucracy. Except for Huyang.
@@andyb1653 Yep despite having good intentions the Jedi fell into those traps. They got too attached to a failing Republic instead of the Force.
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I don't think she's an Avatar of the light. The Daughter healed her, didn't make her a Demigod 😅
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Huyang is chill though, he's cool
That’s one way to start a video
Indeed it is
Indeed
Correct!
the best way 😂
Glorious
Never thought I would learn so much about Japanese history through Star Wars
The original Star Wars story is taken straight from the Samurai movies of Japanese cinema. George Lucas himself cited the Seven Samurai as a major influence for the original Star Wars movie.
@@jarrodbright5231that and old spaghetti Westerns which are just influenced by old Japanese samurai movies lol
spaghetti western cowboys/gunslingers are one of the most popular western archetypes in Japan because of their similarity to samurai.@@tdnavy1066
I've said from the very beginning Ahsoka is a Rōnin. And If Ahsoka still acted like that rambunctious teenager AT 47 (how about that loose connection to the Forty-seven Rōnin) then people would be complaining that her character hasn't grown any.
Can't believe Grand Admiral Thrawn himself watches Generation tech, He clearly had some spare time while on Peridea.
I have a feeling that in the very long history of the Jedi order, she wasn't the first.
I would argue that the 1st Sith Ronin is the guy from the very first visions short.
hehe ok he kind of looks even more like a ronin
Is that canon tho
@@aydanmull It's canon. Confirmed. By science.
@@GenerationTech but her in the clothes of an onna bugeisha, and draw her in that black n'white Kurosawa homage style, and the difference is nonexistent.
@@STARGATE9 Yes
Ahsoka's demeanor reminds me of some of Tolkiens description of elves. Frodo says at one point "go not to the elves for guidance for they will say yes and no at the same time" (paraphrased) in the akallabeth finrod explains how because elves live forever, they must live with a repercussions of their advice. Knowing that even the best advice at one time may lead to an unfortunate outcome.
In the first episode of Asoka she says a line to hera about how decisions made it for the right reasons can still lead to the wrong outcome.
Ahsoka has gone through many stages of her life and gained a lot of wisdom and is acting as a wise, experienced jedi. Like Alan says she is not the 15-year-old who won our hearts anymore, that was like 30 years ago.
I dig it. I'm glad faloni brought in Sabine as such a major character to have someone impulsive again (so far) and I really am looking forward to seeing her and Ezra reconnect.
I've been watching Gen Tech for 5 years now and Alan's content is still as interesting and his delivery is still just as quirky, funny, organic, and relatable as ever. You go dude
I had the same journey with Ahsoka, I remember being in the theater for the clones wars movie and immediately being annoyed by this kid next to my favorite badass. She is now hands down my absolute favorite character in all of Star Wars legends or cannon, and I think it’s fair to say she is by far the most well developed character in anything Star Wars on screen.
Darth Vader, Kreia and Maul would like a word with you.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 "the most well developed character in anything Star Wars on screen" - and even those 3 would have to agree with that.
@@Raygo. I saw all these characters on a screen.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 You may well have done... er, although I'm not sure how you managed it with Kreia. The point is that considering the movies and shows (with no EU books, comics, games, whatever) it's clear that Ahsoka's character is the most well-developed.
@@Raygo. limiting well developed character to just movies/shows and completely disregarding EU (or whatever they call it now) is selectively bias. Imo it just shows how much people simp for Ashoka, can't compare her to characters that haven't been shown in a movie or show.
My favorite starwars youtuber. Perfectly balanced, based, and chad-pilled.
Based and Chad-pilled?
Yeah, except for the Ukraine shilling
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@@schitflowsdwnhil Ukraine shilling?
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystemApparently supporting Ukraine as they fight against Russian instigators is considered shilling.
@@Burning-Twilight Apparently.
It's called a shoto and it's a nod to a traditional Japanese fighting style where the samurai would use two swords, one much shorter than the other. The shorter blade would be used to parry and deflect incoming blows to create openings for quick slashes at fatal body parts with the long sword.
cal kestis could sort of be a ronin too, his master was killed and he went into exile and is now a wandering soldier
although with a lot less Japanese influence
And Kanan. He lost his master too.
Boba Fett had a big mouth full of attitude and we don't see peeps complaining about his stoic nature as an adult.
Thus begins Generation Tech's japanese history arc
Alan nice job keeping those intros fresh brother ... well done 👍
I do think that the Ronin can be an honorable man/ woman, like in Ghost of Tsushima
1:35 Yeaaah and we need Zeb to show up in Ahsoka.. Hopefully S01E08 the Season 1 finale if not on S01E07 that arrives tomorrow & wednesday. It was so so nice to see him in Mandalorian S03 ^^ [Three Years Non Stop M+ Sub & Goes On.] 🙂
Imagine this being the first Generation Tech video you’ve ever seen and seeing that first jump scare lol
You just taught me a LOT about Japanese culture and I am all for it! It's crazy how much it is linked to star wars!
Technically, wouldn’t post Return of the Jedi Luke be a Ronin too,since his masters had died?
A Jedi Ronin, fits Ahsoka to the letter.
I'm sure you just film whenever you can, but hot damn I love how your videos look when you film them at night.
I've often posted on many videos that Ashoka is (episode 5 turned her around) restrain in the beginning of the series. That was because she had lost so much and that was mainly in the men who at one time served her in war. They were turned on her thru no fault of their own.
Yet she showed no such restraint in Rebels. Its been 30 years since Order 66 she would have moved on since then.
@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 i dont understand how you could be so steadfast in that conclusion.
Why do you get to decide how Ahsoka should process her trauma? How do you know she whould have moved on by now? Do you know something about ptsd or trauma others do not?
I find your statement to be ridiculous, ignorant and dismissive of the psychological impact war, betrayal and survival had on her.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935For most of that time past Order 66, she had her memory of Anakin Skywalker to serve as a solid foundation for her to anchor herself to. She had a period of mourning for both Anakin and Padme at the end of the Clone Wars, and through that, spent time processing her Clone Wars trauma. By the time the Inquisitor had come after her, she was mostly emotionally recovered to the point that she was able to get back into the fight with gusto as a wiser version of her former self.
The problems for her however, hit when she conclusively determined who Darth Vader was, and this forced her to look at Anakin in an entirely new light, and by proxy, herself. And this just rips the foundation of her worldview right from under her. If he could become that, then she could become that also.
This would also force her to confront her warrior-centric nature as a contradiction to what she had been taught the Jedi were supposed to be, and in fact we’re trying to be again. She may very much want to have helped Luke rebuild the Jedi Order… but if he at any point explained the events aboard the Death Star to Ahsoka, she’d likely have concluded that she could teach him nothing that he actually needed to learn, and so went off to where she felt she was most useful, seeking out the enemies of the New Republic and fighting as a warrior.
Her failure with Sabine Wren, and her apparent failure to save Mandalore probably further contributed to her apparent detachment we witnessed at the beginning of the season… but after some time with Anakin in TWBW, she seems to be rediscovering her former worldview, and we may see her slowly returning to the Ahsoka we saw in Rebels… and perhaps, just maybe… becoming something more.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 My step-mother is French and went thru bombing in WWII and still can't stand hearing thunder because it reminds her of the bombs.
@@panzer00 Ashoka hasn't shown any signs of PTSD until now including Rebels where Kanan clearly showed signs of PTSD.
I don't think less of those suffering from PTSD especially the men an woman that serve our nations(Australia).
The point i tried to make was that her PTSD being portrayed now was late to the party since she hasn't shown signs of it in the past. In like she didn't have a problem for nearly 30yrs so why now?.
Are you conspiring with Grand admiral Thrawn against the New republic , You both recognised Ahsoka as Ronin , if so wait for I'm stealing a Star hawk with its tractor beam cannon replaced with 3 of Onagers 2 particle beam bombardment cannons , fully automated with a Spa . I was with the rebellion but the New rep politics is shat
If we argue that the Force is her true master and she's now following the actual Will of the Force without allowig politics and the dogma of the Jedi Order to stand in the way, does that really make her a Ronin?
In a way, Legends had a few Jedi like her. Jedi who wandered the Outer Rim and rarely if ever made contact with the Order on Coruscant and didn't follow the orders of the High Coucil or the Senate. Fay, Jon Antilles, Niko Diath and a few others.
In feudal era japan the "emperor" was nothing more than a state figure head (as is still the case today)...it was the Shogun who held the real power
Originally the Emperor was the ruler of in house politics setting disputes, laws and economics, whe the Shogun was the ruler of the military and defence.
Over time the Shoguns started taking power from the Emperor since the Shogun had the armies.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 i said REAL power.
Just coming back to this video to say not only was this spot on, but Thrawn straight up referred to her as a ronin in the season finale. Well done
Just realized that the Mandalorians have a bunch of ninja inspiration with their code and focus on unconventional weapons for taking on Jedi (Samurai)
I don’t recall her directly killing any troopers during order 66. Now the fallout of releasing Maul as a distraction certainly did but that was by Mauls own doing.
I second this. Thank you for the comment.
Is Asage Ventris’s death Cannon? Or could she still show up in Ahsoka? She could be in Ahsoka in a flashback.
It's canon, but her lover, Master Quinlan Vos, is confirmed to have survived Order 66 and is alive in canon.
I mean they wrote in a way of Asajj Ventris returning with the Nightsister necromancy.
when did she die?
Filoni has wanted to retcon her death since the final seasons of the Clone Wars were canceled. He even suggested doing it in Resistance.
That is honestly a good description of Ashoka Tano. Ronin, which means "wave" in Japanese, basically describes masterless Samurai who "wash up" at your door or village. They are considered rogues, bandits, and thugs in Japanese Culture. Not that the Samurai didn't have their bad apples as well. Neither all good, or all bad. The legend of the 47 Ronin and their acts of honor and bravery still resonate today with many still visiting the site where the 47 are buried. The "good" Ronin.
Which describes Ashoka Tano, and somewhat to a point Cal Kestis as his master Jaro Tapal (no spoilers) did a heroic act for Cal. And both Ashoka and Cal like "waves" find themselves fighting for justice and peace on the shores of distant planets. Also, keep in mind, Ashoka's master IS still alive in a way. But is not suitable to help her. Both find their destinies as rogue Jedi, and are trying to master what they have been taught in a way to lead to their own inner peace. So in conclusion, not just Ashoka is a Jedi Ronin. It could be extended to Ashoka, Cal, and even Ezra Bridger. All three represent the "Jedi Ronin".
Pretty sure Luke is the first Ronin.
I'm surprised that it was the betrayal by the Council that broke her when she'd seen staggering amounts of violence that'd get to a lot of people.
Lucas wanted the great Toshiro Mifune for the role of Obi Wan, they even offered him the role of Vader, but Toshiro rejected them thinking that it could give a bad image or ridicule the figure of the samurai and Japanese culture.
Ahsoka has delved much deeper into the "Japanese heritage" of Star Wars, it even seems that he is no longer content with just Yojimbo, Kagemusha (Shadow Warrior) or Zatoichi and Filoni is also beginning to flirt with Studio Ghibli.
Kagemusha blew my mind.
"Flirt with Studio Ghibli", never thought I'd hear that one before, but here we are.
@@MrDibara Ouch, in Spanish we sometimes use flirt as a kind of synonym for playing. Play with concepts, play with ideas. I don't know if it's the same in English.
Chapters 5 and 6 have moments that remind me of Studio Ghibli, and those Miyazaki characters especially connected to nature, like Mononoke or Nausicaa... well, Ezra and Ahsoka have a lot of that.
@@angry_popeye Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm just amused at a new expression I just learned about. Please, don't take my comment as an offense. 😅
I genuinelly wouldn't be surprised if Filoni got a bit of inspiration from Studio Ghibli. A lot of the themes in their movies can easily fit like a glove in the Star Wars setting.
Of course, Filoni is no Hayao Miyazaki, but I think he's been doing a pretty decent enough job incorporating that feel.
@@MrDibara Don't worry. I didn't take as an offense
Damn, Allen. Your vids are always worth watching, but sometimes you just blow it out of the water. This should be required viewing for fans and especially those with a particular love for Ahsoka. The connections you make and the lore you introduce us to here... just wonderful, dude. Thanks.
I could definitely see some Kenshin Himura in this. She's not Batosai the Manslayer, but she's a wandering swordsman who didn't fall to crime, is not part of her original order anymore, and still defends the innocent, that she does. It would be kind of hard to make a sakabato lightsaber, though.
Now I want to go watch my first, the original Kenshin, again. The overdramatic 90's anime style is just *chef's kiss* nostalgia.
I'm surprised they used the title of Daimyo in the Book of Boba Fett. I heard that, and I was like, "Wait a minute." Same with calling the shorter lightsaber a shoto blade. That one also had me quirking an eyebrow.
I suppose Ahsoka could be a ronin onna-bugeisha - a warrior woman, a female samurai.
Ahsoka is one of the greatest Star Wars characters
If not the best!
@@JackFromWyoming Explain?
@@JackFromWyoming Well, Ashoka has more development than most main females. You just got to watch the rest to understand. Compared to like Rye who's what you described from the start.
@@JackFromWyoming *"All female cast"* >ignores Baylan, Thrawn, Huyang, Carson Teva, etc< *"with zero flaws"* >ignores the screw ups and dillemas that not only Ahsoka and Sabine are facing, but ALL characters are with their own issues and goals<
So basically, you didn't even watch Ahsoka at all and simply jumbled it together with the actual woke bullcrap that had come before.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Dave Filoni is cooking something FAR REMOVED from any of that crap. You would know if you had watched it, this isn't another Sequel Trilogy. *But of course, I'm sure me saying this won't change anything, since your comment already betrays how radicalized you've become on your stance.* -_-
Ironically, that's not very different than the wokes and their radical enforcing of their so called "culture".
@@JackFromWyoming Uh, the Witches, Morgan? Don't tell me seeing those Witches didn't send a cold down your spine?
Yes this is a great concept comparison. Ashoka even after order 66 was seen on a farm helping until the boy sold there village out.
Alan, another great vid. I deeply enjoy your work. Seems like a lot of the new Star Wars series are taking a nod from Japanese Culture and media. Mandalorian has a very Lone Wolf and Cub vibe, and Book of Boba Fett kind of has some common threads with Seven Samurai.
Love the intro! Good to see you being your true self for a change.
I like this channel. It takes it seriously how not to take itself seriously.
I figured already. The signs were there that she fit a ronin.
I love this Ashoka version! She is heroic and stoic
Totally cool bro, love the Yamato clip...glade to see your a fan ..made prefect sense in your cultural explanation as well...i am often struck by the differences from our own.
I'd say Baylan would be more of your typical Ronin than Ahsoka. Ahsoka became was redeemed from the Ronin's path when she took on a new master with the Rebellion. She left that master only though her own death (averted by the World Between Worlds), in line with the traditional Samurai code. Baylan on the other hand lives as a mercenary, quite clearly following his own code but following and attempting to follow no master, a true Ronin to the core.
It was evident when she first appeared in live action in The Mandalorian that she was a Ronin Samurai. It was like watching Jedi "Kill Bill."
I appreciate your insights, examination of historical context, and exploration of culture in your videos. That appreciation grows with each new post.
I really want Ashoka Tano to be the first truly grey Jedi in canon. Someone who treads the line between light and dark without being corrupted by the dark. I always loved the knights of the Fel empire.
They were force users employed by a mostly morally good continuation of the empire, trained to draw from both the light and the dark. However if one of them fell fully to the dark side, they were instructed to kill them. They also had white lightsabers… just sayin…
while the connection of Ahsoka to the Ronin tradition is an obvious one; your dissertation on it was interesting and entertaining.
appreciated the quick visual connection to Star Wars Visions; "The Duel" - which I consider to be one of the best pieces of Star Wars animation.
I would LOVE to see Ahsoka eventually mirror the rule of two but in a sort of "Grey "Jedi" way. She knows Luke is building the next Jedi order (regardless of what happens I don't think Ahsoka would create a separate order apart from Luke's. So if she doesn't join the Jedi again but continues to take on an Apprentice, It would be awesome to have her learn to be more of a force for good than a teacher or one to pass on her teachings to many. You can do so many stories in the future where her Rule of Two was passed down for hundreds or even thousands of years. Look at what the Sith Rule of Two did to the entire galaxy (Several Times). Now imagine what a Gery Jedi version of the Rule of Two could do.
The more I watch the Ahsoka show, the more I want to hate the SW fanbase. You can’t satisfy them because they don’t want to be satisfied in the first place.
Holy crap that was so interesting thanks so much ❤
Neat video, I have never even considered Ahsoka a Ronin 🤔
Here after the Thrawn ronin reference! Well done Generation Tech!
Great context for Jedi and especially Ahsoka
It will never be forgotten how the Jedi willingly placed themselves under the Republic's jurisdiction turned out to be the greatest mistake they ever done. Even before having a Sith Lord for Chancellor, the Republic has become the very thing the Jedi supposed to fight against. But yet, nobody bothered to pick up a lightsaber to free slaves and take down corrupted senators who only interested in money. Not until those like Count Dooku and Ahsoka came along.
"Ronin" = masterless Samurai
Brilliant Alan!!! Not to many would pick up on this and tie it up so neatly as you've done here! The Baylan vs Ahsoka encounter in epp 5... It reminded me of Zatoichi Meets Yojimbo circa 1970. Shintaro Katsu vs Toshiro Mifune, each one is committed, each one is deadly but which one will survive the perilous road ahead. But that's another story... Well Done!!!
Look I'm a big fan of your channel and star wars but y'all need to calm down with these theories and just watch the show... maybe talk about everything after the last episode?? Idk that's my crazy theory
“I am no Jedi”
Dave Filoni wrote that line and said fans focus too much on it and misunderstand it. He said that Ahsoka is more of a Jedi than many of the others, she represents what a Jedi is supposed to be. A true Jedi.
@@matthewk4912 a balance between both sides, as we’re witnessing. So technically she is, but she isn’t 🥱
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It sounds more like he misunderstood it and is now trying to backpedal by introducing new concepts that defeat previously established ones.
She either is a Jedi or she isn't. There is no in-between.
"Do or do not. There is no try."
Luke had to learn that lesson the hard way on Bespin.
@@cryptonian101 Filoni wrote that line and created Ahsoka and wrote all the episodes in the Ahsoka series, so he understands his own character.
His point is that Ahsoka has the qualities of a Jedi, but she left the Order bc she lost faith in them after she was framed. The Jedi were failing in their duties as Jedi.
@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez Officially she isn't a Jedi because she never officially rejoined the Order and there currently isn't one.
But Filoni and Rosario Dawson said in a Vanity Fair interview (Google it) that Ahsoka represents the "best of the Jedi." And she has the qualities of a Jedi that all these characters like Mando, Bo-Katan, Baylan, Shin, Morgan Elsbeth, and Thrawn still refer to Ahsoka as a Jedi.
You can still be a vegetarian without being in some "official Vegetarian Club."
The Star Wars Character Encyclopedia calls her a "light side warrior." Ahsoka isn't 50% dark side 50% light side like fans think she is.
People call her a 'grey jedi, she isn't.
She is a Jedi, but she's the ideal of what the Jedi should be, not the Jedi Order that became corrupted by power and politics.
Dude you forgot, ashoka's last appearance in the clone Wars was in the last season. When she has deal with order 66 and Captain Rex.
Even Thrawn said she was a Ronin
I loved her character from the start of her first appearance.
I knew she would be an amazing part of the whole adventure.
I'd really summarize Ahsoka's new attitude as "Someone who's had far too many "worst day of my life"'s in her life.
Zombie-worm infected friend, framed for bombing her home, having to leave the order, coming back back to the whole mandalore/order66 thing, then being on the run for years.
Jedi Ronin - No
A force user Ronin - Yes
To my knowledge, Ahsoka is not a jedi
You notice after the Night sisters appeared the episodes after, in the Clone Wars, were the Mortis episodes of Season Three
The inventor of Japanese dual-wielding was also a ronin, Miyamoto Musashi. He was not a killer, and would dishonor his opponents by leaving them alive after he had defeated them (and yes, that sounds insane), because he was even more zealously dedicated to Zen Buddhism than the average samurai despite being a ronin.
Quick question so when yoda says "there is another" in the Empire strikes back movie are they now saying he ment Asoka cause I was sure it was Leia.
Interesting
I cannot wait for Alan to make a video of him calling this lol.
Omg thank you! Exactly why I have loved the way Ahsoka has been thus far. Thanks Alan!
You were right
GREAT analysis Allen! Thanks, that was fun.
The Jedi is a religion, there were force sensitives that did not side with either side
Asohka is a LAZY and DUMB story. Star Wars is “a long time ago” so Thrawn calling Asohka “ronin” is STUPID LAZY writing.
Just as LAZY as zombie stormtroopers would be. 😒
There has always been this discussion. Is Ahsoka a grey Jedi, or is she a Ronin. A samurai without a master. I usually keep clear of those discussions, because they can get quite heated at times. I’d say that the maker of this vid has put down a couple of truly compelling arguments, founded in réal, àctual history, that support the Ronin angle. Knowing that Lucas, as well as Feloni are really into eastern history afa warfare goes, my bet would be that Feloni, indeed, took the Ronin as inspiration for Ahsoka in her current appearance.
By the by. It must be my background in European cinema and TV, but I do not agree with the sentiment that it was ‘cut too slow’, due to ‘animation background’ of Feloni. I really liked the slower pace of Ahsoka in the earlier episodes. Those long drawn out shots, the pondering close-ups are quite typical for the more ‘artsy’ (for lack of a better word) movies made on this side of the pond. They also give an actor much more time to ‘make’ a character. ( American ! ) Movie making, as it currently stands, has resorted to the ‘no shot longer than 3 seconds- rule, I was taught when studying directing for TV. Something I never really could fathom. Building a scene, a character, a comprehensible mise en scene, takes time. But that’s just me. The costs involved and fleeting attention span of a lot of the paying public, forces a movie maker to cut fast. It’s just how it is. ‘Cut fast, or be delegated to ‘Arthouse films’, only shown in a few small, usually independent, theaters.
HI ALLAN!!!!!!! This is the first time I've gotten to one of your videos when it was first released. If you like this comment or even respond it would mean the world to me. My padawan and I are currently fighting a guerilla war against a Sith-Dolphin coalition in the unknown regions, and we have very little access to holonet connection. If you could give us a shoutout, despite our remote location on the planet of Delphoria (don't tell the Dolphins we're there or it will spoil our element of surprise) it would mean a lot to us. THANK YOU! Our allegience is to the Repuplic, to Democracy. Lord Apollyon out.
i tend to agree
If anyone here knows of the TH-camr “Doomcock”, I ask you all to get GenerationTech to his attention and vice versa. This channel is one of the best on TH-cam and Alan is so level headed and fair. Doomcock is so crazy right now and seems to be in a state of paranoia and isn’t even capable of coherent thought. He keeps sperging out of female only representation and keeps claiming that KK is gonna ruin everything and even go as far as to “Kill the Force” 😂. He’s so anti-Filoni it’s insane. To even think Filoni would betray Lucas is absurd, and to even think that this new Galaxy idea would kill Star Wars is equally if not more absurd. This new Galaxy holds so much hope because now we can have better stories without having to ever touch the sequels.
I don't get why so many people who claim to "Know" Ahsoka's character, are upset iwth the way she was acting in the first few episodes of her show. You know she was a child thrust into war. You know she was pushed harder than any other Jedi because of who her master was and what HE had to do to earn what little respect he did have (Not including younger Jedi after him who saw him as a great Jedi Warrior during the Clone Wars) With the Jedi Order as a whole. You know her world betrayed her and accused her of wrong doings she did not commit. You know she turned her back on the Jedi. You know she wandered till she help to liberate Mandalore and her own troops turned on her and she had to kill her own (soldiers she shed blood and tears for) to survive. You know she was hunted till it finally brought her back to the fight. You know she fought Vader and learned of what her master became as he nearly stuck her down.
And you all think she is supposed to be that snippy little spitfire 14-18 year old kid in the show that takes place when she is 47? That was just one small cut out of her entire life of trauma. Not many who live normal lives retain their child like natures by 47. Why can't Ahsoka be hurting and lost after everything she has been thought? Heroes who are ALWAYS Heroes and never show weakness are flat and shallow characters. It's why everyone love Luke so much. He was headstrong and made dumb choices just to save his friends and it cost him his hand and nearly his life. So why does everyone love that in Luke, Hate Ray for being a shallow "Marry Sue" character, but at the same time want and expect Ahsoka to follow the Marry Sue archetype of just being strong and wholesome and together? What is it about this show that has turned all of the haters that complained about Ray and the ST and would talk about "well written Women" being what they(Lucasfilm) needed then when a well written woman is used, completely flip the script talk as if Ahsoka is no better than Ray?
It's fine to critique a character and the actors who play them, but anyone who is lumping this with the ST and especially likens Ahsoka's character to just another Ray just hates that they have to follow another "Wah-man" around just to try and enjoy THEIR version of Star Wars.
Ashoka? Or Ahsoka
Yeah a while ago I saw a Japanese comedy (which was surprisingly dark!) About a fallen Samurai and that movie did actually a great job at criticizing and deromantizing the Samurai and the Emperor.
The whole time you were talking, I was having flashbacks to 'A Samurai's Tale', and the sequel, 'The Boy and the Samurai'.
Great content Alan!!
Don't know how one may look at this comparison but consider this: Kanaan Jares, "the last padawan," who did experience Order 66 and saw his master be cut down by clone troopers as she fought to protect her padawan. Kanaan, during the Galactic Civil War chooses to train Ezra Bridger as a Jedi. Then there's Luke Skywalker who was born during Order 66, and is one of two offspring of one of the most important figures of the Clone and Civil Wars, as well as of Order 66 itself. Luke, who is far less experienced and quite reasonably less powerful a Jedi than Ahsoka is, yet Luke chooses to train Grogu (although Grogu quits to become a Mandalorian.) Then, finally, there's Ahsoka herself who saw both Clone and Civil Wars, as well as Order 66 and everything else before, during, and after, and she refuses to train Grogu. As well, as it has now come to light in the series, Ahsoka was less than enthused about training Sabine as a Jedi. So, the one (of the three mentioned here,) with the most Jedi training and experience is the one who least wants to train others as a Jedi.
You did not just imply Ashoka is more powerful than Luke, is a lightsaber duel maybe but in the force? Land slide for Luke.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 Ahsoka is basically the embodiment of the Light Side of the Force. I love Luke and he is powerful, but remember also, Ahsoka was trained by Luke's father, as well as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Mace Windu, etc., she fought with the 501st since she was still almost basically a kid. She captured Darth Maul, survived Order 66 while surrounded by clone troopers on a troop transport where many Jedi couldn't survive a platoon. Shall I continue?
@@skyden24195 The only reason Ashoka has such a LONG list incredible (perhaps unbelievable) achievement for a teenager is because she's Daves OC.
If she learned anything from Anakin it was basic(maybe more) Engineering, improvising/resourceful, Lightsaber dueling + dealingwith multiple attackers. From Obi Wan/Yoda Patience and maybe some good advise, but the Council + the Order where corrupted and their hypocrisy.
Sure Luke got a late start to his Training but he defeated/survived threats like Darth Vader, numerous Dark Jedi an sith assassins, legions of stormtroopers, space battles when he's out numbered an out gunned, these also threats that you can't just cut down with a lightsaber like Abeloth and the ghost of Exar Kun.
Luke did alot of the same stuff fighting in the civil war but he had less guidance as he got few lessons from Obi Wan and a few months with Yoda, so Luke had to train himself with what he could find via recovered Holocrons. Luke is by far more powerful in the force than Ashoka but she has had longer time hining her dueling skills, she maybe just as good if not a bit better in that regard.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 to measure whose power is greater is probably not an aspect that can be measured in any simple way. And at any rate, my comment was not to imply that Ahsoka was the most powerful of the three. My comment pointed out that she has the most experience as a Jedi. That, I would not think is of any doubt. She fought in the Clone Wars, then was surviving and steadily helping Bail Organa with resistance/early rebellion activities and then was in the shadows fighting during the Civil War. Kanaan, being that he was a padawan when Order 66 came, may have been closer in experience to Ahsoka. Regardless, when Kanaan eventually joins up with Ahsoka during rebels, he does regard her as a more knowledged Jedi.
I definitely give Luke credit for having the drive and ability to, for the most part, teach himself with what little information he could come across about the Jedi and the Force, which surely was not easy during the Galactic Civil War and Vader always on the hunt for him.
However, or whyever Ahsoka became a part of the franchise cannot be of any merit, positive or negative, just because of which creator had the most influence on her creation. That aspect is fundamentally in the hands of George Lucas. It's not like Dave Filoni included Ahsoka into the series by his own insistence.
This is my last bit to say/type here, and I still do not intend this bit to claim dominance of power by Ahsoka over Luke, there are two aspects of Ahsoka that I believe are testaments to her being a living embodiment of the Light Side of the Force. 1. Ahsoka was given the life force of the "Daughter," i.e., the embodiment of the Light Side of the Force when Ashoka had been killed by the "Son." 2. Ahsoka's lightsabers are white, which in itself is the rarest color
for a lightsaber to become. (Dark Saber is a different matter because it is not truly a "light"-saber as the Dark Saber uses the absence of light.) Not only is it already impressive and a show of her ability and purity (purity is crucial for obtaining a white lightsaber) but also (according to cannon sources) Ahsoka healed two bleeding (red) lightsabers to have the sabers she now wields. Healing a bleeding saber (Kyber Crystal) is nearly impossible for anyone to do.
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Tagruta live up to 200 years old so she's a fair bit younger than she is being portrayed in live action. Despite that still love the depiction of the character.
Where is your source on that? I keep seeing people say togruta live up to 200 years. I never seen that.
According to wookieepedia they have around the same lifespan as humans.
@Valkanna.Nublet that is true but there is speculation that they could live up to 200 years if very force attuned. I'm not aware of any humans living g that long.
None of that is actually canonical. Unless it shows up in live-action, TCW, or Rebels, it's all subject to change, even if it appeared in a so-called canon novel. Hell, even stuff that appeared in animation is easily retconned. There is no lifespan given on 'Canon' part of Wookipedia (which, remember, is a fan creation, and not official), and 'Legends' actually lists 95 years as a typical lifespan. 47 is the literal midpoint.....
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I truiy think Kurosawa Sensei would have loved the way Folini has been doing the show, I been saying this since episode one that Foloni us using the Kurosawa method of movie making.
Loved the video. You have a great demeanor and are very knowledgeable on many topics. Were you a fan of the 47 Ronin movie with Keanu?
Dude… @0:33 you just made me think up the phrase “Bro-bi-wan-Kenobi”
Ha! I love it!
Hope you guys check out Ghost of Tsushima! It has some surprising commentary on the Honor Code (proto-bushido before it was called that).
I feel like we totally need a Star Wars take on the 7 Samurai. Tho as i think about it they kind of did it t in the Book of Boba Fett
No First season of the Mandolorian. Ep 4 or 5
She's easily in my opinion anyways The best and most well developed character and all of Star Wars.
I clicked prepared to say you were wrong but the intro gave me relief that this was just a comedy sketch.
hmmm, I would say not even close to the first. Being that the Jedi/Sith orders are ancient in themselves. the Gray were in my understanding more Ronin in that they found the true way without following either the Jedi or Sith, which led to them being hunted and destroyed by the Jedi order. Makes one think that neither the Sith nor Jedi could see the forest for the trees.
Legends Clone War novel " Shatter Point."
Mace Windu went to his home planet and end up dealing with his cousins by blood. Mace home world was colonized by a wreak Jedi training school academy. The planet is so hostile that only force sensitives could survive and tame the place. The wildlife hide and hunted through the Force. Mace third cousin fell to the darkside as a tribal shaman and Master Windu of the Jedi Counsil was unable to detect his cousin through the Force cause of all the surrounding life Force auras.
That was an example of the Darkside character flowing in balance with the area's Force pulse. Yoda hid in such a location and trained Luke in such a place.
Base on given area, a Sith or darksider could easily blend into most Hutt controlled locations. The Sith used to recruit their soldiers and wantabe Sith from such locations, natural survival of the fittest of predator bipeds.
A grey Jedi/Sith would be just another stray dog or bird in the air of a given cultural environment.
In the Legends novel," I, .. Jedi"
Made Corlerian sector Jedi out to be very lose grey Jedi. They were lightside, barely .. and that sector had a history of having the most Jedi.
Han Solo home sector treated the Jedi as a boarding school. Show up rarely after knighting or leaving their padawan faze over the years or knew how to keep Jedi " merchant/ diplomacy space cop/judge " separate from marriage family life. For some reason they had a problem with TK, move object or make high jumps, so they stubbornly stand their ground during fights and arguments.
@@krispalermo8133 lovely summation of that which has come before. thank you. ^~^
@@ditzydoo4378 You are welcome, and glade you enjoyed the summery.
So many so called Star Wars fans don't even bother to read Wookie pedia. Let alone have a basic understanding of EU legends content which keep the fan base cash flow going into Lucas Arts projects.
Luke's Yavin IV academy had a lot of former imperial black ops teams learning how to deal with their PTSD and balance out their own personal darkside. Along with multiple force witch tribes and cultist learning how to quietly get along with each other.
Anyway Palpatine more or less raised Mara Jade as a Grey Jedi using the darkside without the drive of a Sith to undermine their master.
As Mara pointed out, " Palpatine left a lot of people with Daddy Issues. You don't want to let down your doting grandfather and the shame of failure wreaked many people Palpatine personally groomed."
Imagin being in junior high school and crying cause you were grounded from going to your grandparents for the weekend. Now imagine a grow thirty something year old man being a cold blood Sith warlord in tears because you failed in a mission. Palpatine loved to f-ck with peoples emotions. Lucky he manage to lived long enough to deprogram at Luke's academy. Legends had some great content majority of people gloss over. Such as a darkside shade of Vader bonded to a statue at one of his many hidden bases, and Vader's spy network looking after the Skywalker/Solo family as a hidden side plot covering eight years' worth of books before the revile.
Ahsoka is a ronin. Thrawn verified that. He called her a Ronin while taunting her before he escaped.
Alan, your analysis is enlightened. I will, from this day forward refer to Ahsoka as Ronin.
She drops down that hole slowly BECAUSE of that planet's LOWER gravity! ;oP