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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, I am going to share my experience of being scammed in Pattaya. This is not a common scam, and it's the first time I have experienced something like this. Pattaya has many other scams to beware of, this one caught me by surprise.
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I stayed at many hotels in Pattaya. When I was checking out of one, I was given a bill for the stay and told I needed to pay. The taxi was waiting outside to take me to the airport. I told them I had already paid but they said I hadn't. They were trying to trick me thinking I'd panic about missing my flight if there was a problem. I still remember her words "Mister you pay now or we call Police". So I reached in my bag and produced my receipt saying I'd paid fully. The look on her face was priceless. I then said "Ok maybe I should call Police?"
She was not too happy, I made her lose face very badly and they hate that!
nice info thanks
If you ever stayed again there, which ofc you wouldn't, you would end up going for a free swim in the bay at 3am...face down.
@@zealman79 It was a nice hotel with some really silly staff. Beach Garden in North Pattaya, a couple of sois down from the Dusit Thani.
Excellent tip. I live in Thailand and use Agoda where I increasingly see the option of paying at the hotel which is typically a little cheaper. I have always paid by CC but your story puts me off selecting the pay-at-the-hotel option in the future. I appreciate the upload. Take care. JP
If you believe anything or anyone Thai or farang in Thailand you'll also believe the moon is made of cheese .
SMH. Always have to watch out for things like this and it's too bad because most of us have a lot better things to think about! Happy it worked out for you. Booking has helped me get a few things resolved that I could not myself.
Thanks man! Booking was amazing.. these sneaky ones can slip through the cracks..
I’m am so glad that you followed up and reported this… because if you didn’t, others would be victims of this scam. (An injustice anywhere if an injustice everywhere.) You did the right thing. 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻 Thank you.
Thumbs up 👍 on getting your 💰
wow i never knew about this scam, im going to go through my emails now. cheers Keis and im happy you got your money back mate. Great advice from you and Tempus TV about looking up the cost of electricity per unit in the building you are staying in.
Awesome video Keis thanks for sharing. Stay safe mate
So what can you do to protect yourself from this , just demand to use your credit card if they ask for cash ? Or maybe even break out your phone if they demand cash and videotape yourself handing them the cash and state the time and date and the length of your stay and amount of cash you’re giving them ? ( I know that sounds kinda tacky but it will definitely make them rethink scamming you if that’s what their intentions were ) it sucks we have to go through life even thinking about this , about five years ago I was in a bar here in my home town that my friends brother owns , I got pretty banged up but I know 100% for sure that I payed my tab at the end of the night , a couple days later the owner ( my friends brother ) called and asked me if I could come down and pay my tab ( he wasn’t even there that night ) so I told him I had definitely paid it , he said “ well it’s listed here that ya didn’t “,… to keep my friendship with his brother I drove down there and payed it ( again ) …it was only $65.00 but I haven’t set foot in his bar since ( over 5 years ),.. there has been a few motorcycle rides out of there over the years and I pull up and sit on my bike outside waiting while all my friends are having a couple beers inside until the ride begins , so I guess you could say he lost out in the long run .
Asking for a receipt would be one option and since they were claiming he was a no-show I guess having any kind of evidence proving you actually did stay there would help.
Yep. Bastards play the game well. $65 is doable, not worth lighting your hair on fire. Just deal with it, shake your head and walk away. Whatever the scam is, it’s just under the five-alarm amount. These people live that way with everything they do. If ever you deal with building contractors get receipts from them and their sub contractors. “You expect me to show you receipts for every single nail?” Give me a reason not to.
real?
When travelling in the off season never pre book you can walk into most places will have plenty of rooms and at a cheaper rates 😂 !
Sorrt got skammed bro.
Hmmm will make me think twice about paying cash, hotel should be named and shamed but I know what their ridiculous libel laws are!
Call your card bank tell the charge is a fraud what I did when I wS there I got my money back there's government rate and owners rate for electricity
Double-check everything because behind these thai smiles are real devious intentions. If he wasn't a platinum member, he would be out of money. That's the real lesson here. Be vigilant of your monet in Thailand.
I live in Pattaya and travel often through SEA, though not as much as you. My wife who is Thai and myself are quite vigilant when it comes to online bookings. I recently booked a villa in Phuket on another popular travel app that showed pictures and said it had a private pool. No pool and much lower grade. Scams happen in every country. Your video is an excellent reminder to pay attention to the small details. My experience is they won't ask for cash upon arrival when booking online.
Heyyyy I stayed at a place in Phuket that had a pool in the pic but not when I got there too.. probably same one haha
You don't save your receipts? If I throw them out I would lose a shit tonne of money. Perhaps you're doing all this without having a registered business?
Are you still in Pattaya? I’m from the States and I’m here for 3 more days then Bangkok for 3. Would love to meet up for a beer 🍻
With the electricity, are you saying ask to see what they pay for electricity as a whole and divide it by the rooms or ask to see the actual electricity bill for the apartment youre in. Sorry its a bit confusing.
Really. You’ve never heard of that one? You need to get with the program. No they don’t do it regularly. Must have been a dump hotel if you fell for that one.
Dang man that sucks, but Pattaya is looking good 🎉
I assume you did not check your video diary of your stay? Proof on film would go a long way to prove your occupancy.
Get a receipt. Photograph it with your phone, send it to your email address.
There are apps which will do this for expenses tracking.
Expat community should come up with a list of trusted hotels where people have had good experiences with not being scammed. Then we can sort of vet these places for eachother before people go there.
Pattaya is all about taking money. Always good ideal to keep receipts. And not to trust anyone easily
Pity you can't name the place but you can't say anything about them as you get sued in Thailand
Wait I just paid cash in Chiang Mai today and they preferred cash. I am going to ask for a receipt tomorrow. I am going to take pics and videos of the place.
Yeah wow ive not heard of that either, crazy! You should go to the police about them, best advice I had when i went through that bank incident i had told you about 👍
Take photos inside the apartment then you have Prof you showed up.
Sounds like the base apartment because they pulled the same racket on me
mate you should set a new email account just for bookings only
You can have emails automatically sorted and saved in folders.
If you pay cash, get a receipt.
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Did you not have footage of you in the hotel room as evidence you were there?
Always be on guard in scam city
If you took any video inside the room, that is your proof that you stayed there.
Yeah I had it but they didn’t even ask, they just took my word which was nice 😊
Thanks for the info Adam. 😮
Cheers man 😊
Tech savy not so savy....stay away from e-mail
Always ask if the electricity is included!
Sometimes you show the room you stay in. Maybe video each room and hold the video until everything clears the bank ok then delete it. Good you caught this and informed us Thanks
Yeah I had pics, but the booking company didn’t want any proof, they took my word which is great service 😊
They also have broken the law by not registering you with immigration. NAME THE HOTEL ,
It’s not a hotel unfortunately, an apartment.. the whole thing seemed shady..
I reported them and it looks like their account is gone now
@@keisone Let me book I would love to test this out
Yeah same, I wanted to book again but their listing is gone..
AGAR Always Get A Receipt
Yeah I usually never keep receipts lol
Check your emails.........period
In pattaya was paying about 100 baht for motorbike taxis all the time. Idk if that’s tourist market price or basically scammed hahhaha
That’s double
Are you really that naive?!😂
Hello Adam I really need to talk to you. I have dropped txt on your Instagram. Please it's kind of urgent
Never had that no show is no show
Are all your off-white shirts rea?
Thanx for posting the scam Adam . R u able to say which place scammed you?
name and shame the property
Ohhh man that suxs bro. Glad u got it sorted in the end. Can always count on u to give ppl advice or expose the scams that may happen.
Cheers legend!! Yeah all good in the end 😊
What is the name of the apartment ?
Sucks bro
Confront the hotel
Cheers 🙂
Same thing happened to us last February in Phuket. We booked thru Agoda and when we got to the hotel, the lady there said they don't do business with Agoda since the previous December, so a bit dodgie I thought and paid cash. The lady wouldn't give me a receipt either. Nothing happened with Agoda afterwards, never got double charged or anything as we had booked a "pay at the establishment" hotel. To alleviate this kind of problem now, we only book a room as " book now pay later " with Agoda directly. We stay away from " pay at the establishment" ones. I don't even know why Agoda even permits this. Easy way into a loophole. Thx for sharing
I ended up with a $200 electric bill for a month in a 1 bedroom, View Talay 6. So this year I was going to be "smart" and get the all inclusive. The desk didn't want to book it, they acted like I was insane. They said just pay the electric it'll be better. I said I knew better from last year. Lo and behold, unit by the same company had a completely different A/C unit. A modern one vs one before that was probably 20 years old. I bet any money the A/C would have only cost $100/month. But I ended up paying the all inclusive rate which put me more like $180 ish. I still don't know for sure though, but, . . . yeah the next twist in the rules i follow is that I'm going to check what kind of A/C unit the room actually HAS before I sign up to any all inclusive rate.
Thanks for sharing this SCAM Adam ! May I add I was scammed by Agoda hotels booking with confirmed air tickets SYD-BNE-SYD thinking it’s a reliable company ! This was during our closed borders time so I decided to cancel Agoda only refunded me hotels costs but not airlines !!! About AUD 300 loss from this situation ! So if your subs are using this company pick the pay as you go option n Agoda doesn’t deal with airlines even tho they ad as a package ! Cheers
Ohh NO🙏
Sadly, this is probably an employee or two that are just not well educated and think it's quick easy money, and probably get fired eventually. I doubt it's a hotel business model. But it still happens and is unfair.
On a different note, I picked a hotel in Lima Peru once that had a rooftop pool with fantastic views, and was within walking distance to city attractions, and within my budget, only to learn AFTER I arrived that the pool was closed for renovations. I could have gotten a slightly cheaper hotel and much closer walk (2 mins instead of 20 mins walk) to the ocean that did not have a pool. But the hotel did not list it anywhere that they closed it for renovations (AND for 6 months at that). You just have to take the good with the bad - the good was, I'm on vacation, it's still a very nice hotel with full buffet breakfast - enjoy life for what it has, not for what it doesn't.
I bet the person who took your cash was just an employee and had a fun weekend. Even if they got fired 6000tbt is 15 days wages and unemployment is under 2% so they would just get a job somewhere else
Nice catch 6000 bah that’s a lot of drinks 😂
Yeah man! That’s a solid night out lol
You know, if you do this you will never have any more problems......just add some ketchup to the next pizza you eat, you will love it trust me lol.
Sorry for your problem,do you have pictures or videos of that condo?Did you took any selfies or videos?You can use as your evidence…
Never pay cash 😆
I got an amazing Airbnb in patong beach for 4 days with a variable electric bill and it was like 2000 baht. got ripped off but the baseline Airbnb price was low so figured the total price was still not bad
Sucks bro 👎🏽😕
Surprised you didn’t have footage of your scam stay to use as proof 🤞🏽
Cheers for sharing your experience/lessons 🍻🙏🏽
if they don't refund you or if it's a hassle to get a refund from them, get a Chargeback processed from you bank. Simple and easy. Always use a credit card as the Chargeback system is your last line of defence which never fails
happy it worked out for you brother, safe journey
Thanks bro!
For frequent Thailand renters you two guys need an education about rental fees. As a condo owner I can tell you that electric costs to the condo owner are much higher than what you may believe it should be. The rate is frequently increased by the Juristic Office and the condo owner adds a handling fee. This is normal in Thailand. Also, never pay anyone cash without getting a receipt that can be verified.
Has similar from lub d in Samui. Random email from staff asking me to re upload my card details for a booking. I'd made a booking but the email said I'd book another 10 days at a later date. Link wanted me to re add my card.... someone at the business used my number to try scam me
Name the accommodation teach them a lesson
I live in Vietnam they always trying to rip me off
I give them hell
Well done
Problem was it’s not the accommodation locations issue, the individual person responsible.. which I reported, hopefully it helps
I film unusual interactions like this, just like I film opening amazon etc parcels to show what is inside. If they are going to rip you off they will be shy about showing their face with the full interaction on camera. That might cause scammers to back off. You can give them a face saving measure like "would you like to check your email again for the booking?"
Hey, just in Pattaya too.
Always new ways to rip off the unwary.
Thanks for highlighting this one. Just as well I stay at my regular hotels who know me and do not (seem to) rip me off. That's from being a customer 15 years with the same dudes!
Always ask for a receipt when paying cash. If they're not able or willing to, then it's likely suspect.
It gets real scammy at certain times of the year.
im the kind of easy going guy that this would happen to, hopefully ill remember to not use cash
Informative episode greatly appreciated from Chicago!
Great channel and content. That sucks. Used to go with Booking but found Agoda has better deals and have never had an issue. As you say it wasn’t Booking’s fault but yeah, I prefer Agoda. And I keep all receipts. Lesson learned huh. Well for sure you won’t let that happen again! Will be back in the Kingdom soon. Hopefully we can meet and have a beer..
You seem to be old enough by now to know that everything is a scam, keep this in mind then you won’t be scammed.
Weird thing is I stayed at that apartment many times before without issue
@@keisone each morning when you wake go into battle mode as though you’re playing chess careful of everyone see all as challenges one must win , life really is a game of chess.
Sorry that you were scammed. What is the property? Call them out so the rest of us don't book there.
Good heads up. Thanks. Also maybe a reminder just to mark those emails as 'read' rather than deleting them.
Should always take video of inside the room/hotel so you can prove you were there...
This same scam hit my friends last year in California. Unfortunately, the hotel refused to refund them, even though the cash transaction was caught on tape.
Depending on your email provider learn how to setup filter rules.
The moral of this story is if you pay cash take a photo of the reciept
Good info to know and watch out for! Thanks for sharing!
Good on you for reporting them.
Ps nice to meet you sunday night.
Platinum member dropping hard lol
Haha Lowkey flex.. but if it didn’t go in my favour this video is ver different haha
@@keisone great videos keis. Keep up the good work. 👍 awsome content 👌
Learn for as long as you live❤..Things happened to me also..So nothing new under the sun..Stay safe and just be you🙏👍
Yessssir!
name and shame the apartment so others can avoid the place also
Are you in Pattaya?? I am coming on friday and wanna meet you
I’ve heard of this one on the Retired Working For You channel. Lesson I’m taking away, never pay hotels cash, ever.
Depends if you walk in off the street then it's fine.
@@Luke-ri5fo Valid point, never pay for hotels I’ve pre-booked with cash then 🤣
thx for the info , ill keep an eye on this. cheers !
I guess you have some kind of proof that you stayed in that hotel like date stamped pictures etc? Should help to prove that you you did in fact show up and that they are lying scammers.
Had it but to booking.com’a credit they never asked
I always use cc. So I can dispute anything I want
So you're saying that by responding to the emails that yes you stayed at this hotel, you're good and prevents the scam?
Im planning my first trip next winter and aware of the scams, but this one is new to me too.
Yeah that’s all you need to do, but I missed it
I am also a platinum member. Absolutely love that extra discount offered. Always helps out. Congrats you got your money back. 1 Word Outstanding
It's GENIUS member NOT platinum !
Always get a receipt for cash
if they are saying you didn't pay and stayed in the accomodation, I would have a party invite everyone and tell everyone they can take all the furniture home and give out copies of the key
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
what no video or pics of the time in hotel to prove with timestamp
I had photos from inside, but they didn’t even ask, booking just took my word which was great service 😊