If you are being sexually harrassed or discriminated or you know your company is doing something illegal, you tell your lawer and blindside the fuck out of the company. Telling HR is like showing your hand in a game of poker.
He is absolutely correct. Going to HR with a complaint is like walking into the lion's den where you are a juicy steak. HR's primary reason for existence is to be the spy branch for the company. They are essentially management, always hv the nicer offices, perks, good pay, and never get in trouble even when they break code. Their role is to prevent lawsuits, not to make sure you get your rightful benefits or paychecks on time.
Even if you have your own business like say being a plumber you still have a myriad of potential problems and legal issues. It is just a part of life you have to smart enough to be aware and how to best mitigate potential issues.
I literally filed a retaliation complaint with HR , they started an “investigation” and a week in to the “investigation” , I get fired for “performance issues” . When i tell you I never went so quick to the EEOC.
@@edhones Same here being bullied, mobbed, gaslighting, harassed at the hospital for over 12 years. I've happened to be the top worker for 38 years and have never been suspended. These bullies are jealous and miserable people. Union, manager, HR and the police are all totally useless. Bullies are lazy bums and stupid managers are scared of the bullies. They say about me I'm crazy, I drink, I'm a stalker all bs defamation of character. The biggest mistake since they removed disciplinary measures. They should arrest the bullies and fire the manager. Action speaks louder than nasty words. It destroyed my reputation. I will never quit to make these lazy bums ever win. If I decide to transfer to another hospital and may start mobbing once again, I don't know all the managers ect like in every department like now. So best to not change hospitals. I will never let bullies try to control me from quitting. Never let these low life lazy bums win ever win.
HR is not a Police Department. They are not there to play judge and jury. They are just workers like everybody else. If there is a conflict between two workers, HR is going to do what's right for the company, not the victim. They will usually get rid of the victim, especially if he/she is on the lower hierarchy of the corporate structure. I have heard and read stories about people who complained to HR about harassment. The end result was the victim ended up resigning and in other cases, HR did nothing about it. The only reason I went to HR is that my lawyer said, "You should let HR know because I can tell you right now that the law is not going to help you." If you are being harassed at work, you have to stay there until you find suitable employment. That's what the Unemployment Commission told me.
Basically as an employee you either put up and shut up. You are at the mercy of coworkers and management who can run you out as long as they don't target you for 'protected' reasons.
They are looking for monetary damage and retaliation = wrongful termination. If you filed the "written" complaint to HR/Management and they fire you, that's retaliation $$$.
I agree with this 100%. As someone who has worked in Human Resources (HR) for a time, I can tell you that HR is there to strictly benefit the company or business, not the people who work there. HR’s sole purpose and reason for existing, is to manage humans, whom a company or business views as simple tools, a resource, to achieve an end goal. HR then attempts to protect the company’s or business’s investments and assets by trying to ensure those tools act and behave in the exact and proper way that they were hired (bought) for, that those tools are following all the proper designated processes and procedures (to avoid legal issues), and ultimately that those tools don’t end up dulling or breaking all together (burn out and/or performance issues). Otherwise, those dull or broken tools will be quickly and easily thrown away and a new tool will be acquired as swiftly as possible as a replacement. EVERYTHING an HR department does, is ultimately from this lense. If it ever seems like your HR department “cares” about you or is doing something nice for you, know that the ulterior motive behind it stems from the singular purpose and goal I mentioned above. It’s basic manipulation tactics via Psychology.
Write everything down. Details. I can’t stress this enough - including witnesses. If there is a pattern of events, obtain legal counsel and file a lawsuit.
I work for a municipality and am in a union and I get EVERYTHING in a email (make AT LEAST 2 copies 1 for myself, 1 for the unions, I make the city EXPLAIN their reasoning for EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING I do I think about IF this went to court would this help my case. HR HATES MY GUTS because I make them actually do their job and not just tell me no.
@@avril.227 I have since time past, life in the fast lane they swept everything under the rug at walmart. I remember details now that time has past short term memory recall is real low and most people don't get me
I studied HR. During my studies I was told HR is supposed to put the right man/woman at the right place and you have to caress your workers for the capital that they are. Then I worked in HR and soon found out HR is nothing but a buffer between higher management and the workers, tasked with implementing impopular policies to maximize profit or settling personal grudges any manager may have. Workers are only prescious capital when they add value to the stocks of the company, nothing more. Obviously I quit, because I couldn't morally reconcile my conscience to what I was supposed to do to get payed... and I detest anyone working in HR to this day.
*The biggest revelation I learned from HR is that being "Unethical" is not illegal. HR and Management can be as unethical as they want, and there is nothing you can do.*
This is all VERY true. I had an issue with my employer, a Fortune 100 company. I lawyered up early and started collecting information, emails etc. I had months of emails that I turned over. The company did pay me a settlement.
So basically work is just a terrible place to be. You spend years of your life wrenching yourself out of bed at an ungodly hour every morning, drive to an unsafe place that’s uncomfortable and a giant pain in the ass, you’re surrounded by two faced snakes in the grass, your bosses don’t give a single F about you and will screw you hard at your most vulnerable moment. Thank goodness I retired 4 months ago and never have to deal with any of the BS again.
@@Adoniss99 I was a science teacher and department chair so I wouldn’t consider it really a low end position. 23 years of teaching forensic science and astronomy was definitely not assembly line work.
Start your own company. What do you think working for others is really all about? It's about the boss getting rich. That's ALL it's ever about. If I had a company, I'd use you for my cash flow, too.
@@BlueDude-cf9mk No it’s not my case because She was fired and it was discovered under our new Sr Manager she was falsified internal documents. So know your facts before making statements. Thanks
I worked as HR manager for a few years. I walked away from a sweet salary because I finally realized that I was on the wrong side of the table every time I had to “mediate” a grievance. Last straw was when I was asked to prepare “dossiers” on certain employees.
The thing about HR reducing legal liability by getting rid of the complaint boggles my mind is that it doesn't fix the problem in the most efficient way possible. Maybe they should reduce legal liability by fixing the cause and the employee who complains is almost never the cause. If you fix the cause, you won't have another of the same complaint from another employee.
I worked at companies that don't have an HR department. What do they do when there is a conflict between two workers? They let both workers go and hire workers who can get along with each other.
The problem is that oftentimes an employee only goes to HR to complain about someone higher up on the totem pole, like a supervisor or a manager. In which case, they have a choice: act against the higher-up guy the company values more, or get rid of the lowly grunt the company BARELY values at all. Even if they end up having to do it 50 times the company will literally consider it less costly to go through new grunt laborers every week.
Everywhere I've worked, HR were ALWAYS very snobby, arrogant and loved to intimidate employees, acting like you should be terrified of them. You are ALWAYS guilty until proven innocent.
I once complained with HR because the company has not paid my Health insurance for more than a year and my salary was paid with delay every month. They did absolutely nothing. I am still wondering what they do all day, besides keeping up with a 100% staff turnover...
That is not a true statement. I thought my union was there to protect me and I found out my union was working with my employer to fire me. That is why my employer has gotten away with this for so long. Someone before me had endured 18 years of bullying and harassment and discrimination and had to quit. Same as the agency I worked for before. She had worked there for 24 years and was bullied and harassed and to constructively terminate. Oops, there were two people that work there for 24 years the other one was fired.
Unions do nothing more than protect the weakest link. Good, productive people end up paying for the knuckleheads and slackers. If you really have worth, you shouldn’t need to depend on others to get paid for it. Don’t let 5he slackers hold you down.
the main difference between the company and a union is the union doesn’t make shit or have to balance the books. they both exist to protect and promote themselves.
Never complain to HR. Ever! This should really be taught in high school. I was fired at the age of 45 years old, I never knew not to complain to HR but I know now. Yes, even if it is harassment it is better to start looking for another job than to go to HR because you will be fired, if you bring a complaint. Unions also are not on your side. If you are going to sue make sure you ask for a lot of money because jobs are hard to come by today and if you are fired you no longer have a reference from that company so you have to contact a previous managers which could be a problem - they have left the company or they don't want to provide a reference because they have issues! Laws need to be changed to protect workers. No, one should have to put up with being harassed at work.
My managers and supervisors drove me to severe suicidal ideation which began to form plans and behavioural actions. Took what they were doing to me, massive documentation list and recordings, to HR. My managers got promoted. I quit the next day and no one asked why I was leaving. Yet I was always the one they called when short staffed. Every time.
HR is like Safety Department. They protect the company. Not you. Safety department cares nothing about YOUR safety. They are there for the safety of the company.
I think if you have an issue big enough to where you're thinking of taking it HR, talk to a lawyer first. Have your lawyer write HR a letter. Once the company knows you have enough money to afford a lawyer and can sue them, they're less likely to turn on you and make you the problem. However, if you can't afford a lawyer, instead of going to HR, go on Indeed and start looking for a new job. HR will NOT solve your problems. They will make YOU the problem and they will activity work towards making you go away.
Twenty-one years ago I suffered occupational over-use injuries. I worked for a school district. L&I at that time required an investigation of work-place injury within ten days of (W694816) report. ESD 123 granted themselves four (4) 90 day extensions, denying payment for on-the-job medical injuries' treatment through all that time, and after having worked with overuse injuries for a year I retained an attorney as medical providers had sent me to collections. By the second 90-day extension I understood who I worked for and every email was printed and kept in a file at home. During discovery the school district claimed to have "lost" my email account but we demolished them. 'This principal emailed our client here, that administrator emailed client then, do you have their emails? Defendant has repeatedly demonstrated bad-faith.' Repeated L&I violations by a government agency are akin to qualified immunity. Keep up the good work!
The way you're describing it makes me wonder if there's any point of HR at all. Sometimes I have wondered if there was any kind of HR department I could have complained about at various jobs I hated and left in the past. I also know in many cases your immediate supervisor isn't even the one making any decisions when it comes to whether you are fired or not. One thing I know for sure is when I got fired from working at graton casino I can tell by the tone of my supervisors voice that even though she told me that they were firing me I could tell by her tone that she didn't actually agree with their decision. She knew I was a really good worker and that it was unfair that I got fired over one incident nobody
The point of HR is that it is a buffer between management and the executives. It exists as a tool to implement impopular decisions that affect the entire company (cost reduction, profit increase) or settle personal grudges any manager may have against you (which means you will eventually lose your job). HR will NEVER intervene on behalf of an executive: representing an executive against the company would hurt the company and representing an executive against another executive would put the reputation of the company in jeopardy. In neither case HR has nothing to gain.
As a retired employee who never dealt with HR (thank God!), I've watched a few of these videos and they all are pretty much the same. So now that I have this knowledge about HR, this is what I would do if I were in a situation where I needed to file a complaint with HR. First, I would go to my lawyer and share my complaint with them. Secondly, I would file my complaint with HR with a letter from my lawyer establishing strength to avoid any monkey business from HR. This approach, I believe, protects and weaponizes me to the level of the company and forces HR to do it job correctly. And if HR doesn't like this approach, well, they can take an aspirin.
@@SonicDeeHedgehog Seeing a lawyer for a letter of representation is just a few hundred dollars. It's just saying, this is my client. Treat him well, and I won't have to take legal action. Companies don't like legal action. It cost them too much in legal fees and bad publicity.
@@mutleymutley7474also depending how rich they are they could have Like 10 lawyers working for them and keep stalling on everything until you get financially depleted. Idk there has to be some like sneak around “attack “ What if you and the HR director literally become super tight and like friends. HR ppl usually done get anyone to see them unless it’s work related about complaints, but if you come and see them daily from the moment you get your job and gradually grow a close friendship I feel like it could be a potential safety net down the line. That’s my plan for the next place I go to. Or I need to Revamp my business- I gave it all up for a 2 hour pitch about a job that’s so amazing and all inclusive w housing etc so who could turn that down ? My tiny consulting was actually doing well and sustaining after I left my previous job to tend to my medical needs. I gave all of that up for these mfs lol I am so angry w myself for being once again naive and believing that owners have best interest at heart. If I am ever employed by a company again me and the HR director will be bffs - watxh lol
3 months before I left company manager of department 2 told head of department I, they want me working for them full-time, I won't be going back to department 1. Shortly thereafter the head of department 1 (Indian) got Indian employees to start harassing me (walk past my chair saying 'head of department 1 said he won't stop harassing you until you leave', head of department 1 wants to get rid of you, you think because you of .... nationality we must be scared of you, etc.). Not to mention on my way out of building (going home) an Indian employee threatening me with a knife and gun. Told HR I'm fed up with the harassment, thinking of going to arbitration association and going to a labor lawyer. Next day called into urgent meeting, suspended for 45 days, then called into disciplinary meeting (accused of fake charges) and dismissed. 4 days later received email stating company received my resignation letter - I never resigned. Prior to above happening to me another white employee (different department) was targeted by same head of department 1, the white employee resigned with Immediate effect. His work was moved over to department 1 (Indian employees). Does that sound like nepotism / racism / discrimination by head of department 1 (Indian) ? Was the intention to replace me with Indian employees of department 1 (just like with other white employee) ? I chose to fight unfair treatment at work (unfair labor practice) by not responding or retaliating (just ignored it), but reported issue to HR. What is the lesson in above scenario, don't ever trust HR (human resources), if you're an employee, they are not your friend. Don't complain, just get another job, then resign.
This is so very true. One time during an investigation into an employee in our division, all of us were called by HR to discuss a toxic situation. I know i and others felt safe to say what was witnessed or how we were impacted and were hopeful that justice would be on the side of the innocent. Our expectations were smashed when HR called the division manager and revealed everything and who said what. We were retalliated on and the working conditions became hard to work in for quite awhile, meanwhile the innocent were condemned, we were treated disrespectfully, and the problem worsened. H.R is not on your side
What i find absolutely CRAZY is why is the superior, the higher paid employee being complained about the one being defended. Like how is the one pointing out racial discrimination, bullying, hostile work environment, making people qanf to kill themselves etc why isnt the PROBLEM the one that gets seen as the risk and not the ones suffering.
I believe it is because if you bring these problems to light, then someone has to literally do something, and heaven forbid someone has to do some actual work.
I didn't do anything but stand up for my rights. Ticked off everybody. I was faced with a hostile work environment, nasty things being said about me. All type of things. Because I was tired of being taken advantage of.
never go to HR. well maybe to ask a question about health benefits or the time of day. but when I asked about my health benefits, I was handed a brochure, and then she just stared at me.
A coworker made HR complains for sexual harassments from another coworker. They completely swept the case under the rug because they HR claimed "oh he wouldn't do that. I don't need to talk to him. You can go back to work now" . She was harrased once again, and she quit. HR was begging for her to stay, but she refused.
You gotta treat HR like an enemy, they are the number 1 threat to your job! Even if you ever witness anything at work and they ask you about it always deny it and never go to them for help!
I learned this ages ago. HR protects the managers. It must be a depressing role to work in. The best thing to do is to join a union, but workers should be suspicious of them too. Depending on the union, they can make their living by being cantankerous. That is, they’d rather exacerbate matters than seek a resolution that both the worker and employer can be happy with. I believe this is deliberate.
Subscribed! A coworker of mine made a complaint to HR about a problem and i decided to do some research on HR departments and came across your channel!
Follow up every complaint or word of mouth interaction with an email. Make copies of that email. Don’t ever sign anything. Document everything with dates and times. Hire a Lawyer. HR and said defendant were caught in lies during their “investigation” because I did as mentioned above along with legal advice from an employment lawyer. They have no choice but to settle now. They screwed themselves with their own investigation. If they didn’t get caught lying it would have been a tough road because they tried to cover everything up.
Can we get a video for those of us doing the grunt work in HR (like data entry) on how we can protect ourselves? HR doesn’t just go after non-HR employees. They go after all of us at the bottom too, only we have to engage with HR every minute of every day and risk having the beast turn on us too. It isn’t just a once in a while interaction. Every single day you walk in can be the day that breaks you
I went to HR once for a toxic boss who was lying about my performance. The HR person said "well I talked to him and he seemed fine". I tried to transfer and found out later HR went to each hiring manager and told them not to hire me.
I have experienced all this nonsense. It's true, HR should ALWAYS be considered as an adversarial entity. They are not just not your friend, if you are having problems at work, they are your enemy.
HR does come through sometimes. A leader was fired at my job was fired after all of their direct reports complained to HR about their behavior and huge amounts of evidence was collected. They decided he was more a risk than losing his whole team.
This is why people hate big corporations so much. This is why there is no company loyalty anymore and most people only work to the rule and eventually quiet quit. It's the equivalent of having a coach that doesn't give a shit about the players on the team. They just won't produce for him. It's a losing formula based on no trust, treachery and selfishness.
another excellent video, thanks ! yes, HR is definitely not what it feigns to be. revealing is that X number of years ago (decades) there weren't any HR departments, this is a newer invention, and it was not made to support staff.
I had an HR manager do this while I was on medical leave. I checked in weekly as supposed to and they took notes, but then when they threatened to fire me for not being on medical leave because they didn't approve it, all the notes were 'lost' and they had my manager tell their narrative. Fortunately, I kept paperwork and was able to prove it was approved but they harassed me so bad I quit. Found out later I should have let them fire me then I could sue.
When I worked in a factory. The only times I was called into HR was so i can fill out my information for payroll and signing up for direct deposit. I would say hi to the Hr ladies when i came into work daily. They were friendly but I didn't trust them. So i kept everything brief.
At 3:54, while I agree that HR can be shameful in its lies, it's also noteworthy that some HR offices (or at least some HR generalists) are just plain incompetent. I've seen HR offices lacking in basic knowledge of admin leave, payroll processing timelines, and other separation logistics. Heck, these HR folks would love to lie and wish they had enough process and legal knowledge to do so, but, alas, the best they can do is start to run with the ball and then take a tumble.
Little tip here Ladies and Gents. Don't ever let HR know you are more intelligent than them, you will be fired for denting their ego's. It happened to me at shAMAZON UK.
They want to talk on the phone or in person so there are no records. What you do, after ea h call or meeting, is write HR an email that contains the details of what was discussed and any action agreed to. Conclude the email by saying you want to be sure you understand everything that was discussed. Ask them if you email is correct. If they say yes, goof for you. If they say no, they have to commit their version in writing. Also, check the laws where you live. You may legally be able to record them without their permission. If so, never discuss the recordings they're for if you go to court. BUT CHECK THE LAW! in some places it is illegal to record a conversation without the permission of everyone involve. Do not break the law.
Who says you can't do anything? Im pretty sure in Texas if your manager or HR department cuts your throat, they must immediately start sleeping with one eye open and stay out of any place public or risk taking a severe beat down in front of their family
During my first job as a teen I thought HR was a position to kind of fight against the company in your favor. Boy I was wrong, made a legitimate claim against my shift manager, 2 weeks later I was fired for suspicion of theft. Now I'll be honest with you, I was thieving up a storm, but they never actually knew that, they just wanted me gone
This is why most people who get fired are not victims, just bad workers lol! They probably knew someone was stealing but your complaint just made them focus on you and kick you out. Fumbled the bag. Can't be stealing or slacking on a job then bring attention to yourself haha! Hope you learned from it.
I remember telling my friend who worked as a grievance coordinator for a big PBM that her actual job was to "protect" the company's interest, not help the customers, and although helping the customers can be a part of it, its not the main focus of that job. My friend refused to believe me... This is what happens when you live in a corporate dystopia and I hate it.
Nice video. I am a retired software engineer and I can definitely confirm the things talked about in the video. As Ed said, not all HR reps are bad (at least in theory), but for whatever it's worth, I've never had a "good" HR experience.
You need to get all your proof like any emails, notes about what went on out of the company's reach asap. Once you report, your chances of keeping it are diminshed.
I appreciate the info sir! I just lost my job with a island municipality here in NC. However since this is a right to work state they can fire me because they didn't feel good that day and just wanted to see a man crushed...
You are 100% right I made complaints against my boss Few months later they fired me I took them to the court,they were little bit scared so they offered me 22k$ .
Shalom! I am currently going thru this right now. One manager has already contacted Human Resources about me. I was recently given a consultation over something petty; the manager said she has been talking to Human Resources and will begin documenting my actions at work. She and another manager issued me a PIP. I maybe on my way out.
@@vooo1314 Yes, thank you vooo1314. Everyone has told me to document everything; I have had some employees give me information I can use. During this I have come to the conclusion that Human Resources is definitely not my friend.
I worked for a company for 17 years. I had never in my life went to the HR department. I had 2 employees who I feared would (and in fact did) retaliate against me for being punished by "other" Managers. I wrote a short email letter to HR about my concerns and sent it. The Literal next day, I was immediately written up and told that any further write up would result in my termination. I was shocked, baffled and absolutely terrified. Then, I read Cynthia Shapiro's book called "Corporate Confidential". It was so good, I read it twice. I wish I had known the invaluable knowledge that book contained before thinking I was building up the courage and being brave to broach my issues to HR at the company. It was obvious HR was NOT there to help me in ANY way. It was a career altering mistake. NEVER TRUST HR! They are NOT there to help you, but to protect the company FROM you, and that edict with override every other responsibility...
I learned this lesson in a hard way a few years ago. I dated the company hr for a few months and after we broke up, things get awkward, affecting my performance and ended up resigning. Never again.
I learned that just before I retired from a hospital I worked at and and a job I once loved for 36 years. An HR person was assigned to our nursing unit to "be there for us and our needs and address our concerns" but she was actually helping the unhinged manager abuse the employees. All 50+ us have resigned or found new jobs.
Somebody please help....a company I know are seemingly "deeply concerned" about employees mental health. Encouraging fellow workers to help their colleagues and if employees are concerned enough to report the so called ailing individual to HR so they can help. I have some thoughts on this, what do others think, I'd love to know?
Somebody needs to get their shit together Protecting u as an employee is protecting the company from catching lawsuits That's so stupid Get rid of the problematic worker so they sue We have to change these slave master ways
The thing is, you can sue but all they have to do is make up a bunch of reasons why YOU were a bad employee and that was why you were let go. The second they see you as a problem, they watch every single move you make. You took a minute longer during break? That's getting written down. You forgot to write the date on a document? That's getting written down. They won't tell you they're watching you. But they're watching you and building a case against you. Even though you went to them because you're being sexually harassed.
One of my last companies always got rid of employees by putting them on PIPs. It’s suspicious when 10% of your department is on a PIP. They’re also unattainable so they could create documentation that the dismissal was for poor performance and they could get out of paying unemployment. Very dirty.
Rule 1 in life: Don’t talk to the police. Rule 2 in life: Don’t talk to HR. Rule 3 in life: Get a good lawyer even if you have to sell something to afford it. I had to hire one for a speeding violation earlier this year and it honestly felt like cheating in the courtroom😂. They handled everything and I just had to stand there and look innocent.
What if you send them a complaint and don't respond? Or respond to your concern, but nothing actually happens. Are white blue collar concerns also protected or just white collar jobs?
If you are being sexually harrassed or discriminated or you know your company is doing something illegal, you tell your lawer and blindside the fuck out of the company. Telling HR is like showing your hand in a game of poker.
Fucking truth, brother
What if human resources is sexually harassing you?
Great way of explaining!
Not everyone can afford a lawyer tho. Chances are if you’re working a 9 to 5, you don’t have money to fight
What if you can't afford a lawyer?
Go to work, do your job, earn your money, mind your business and trust no one!
It for sure sounds that way and I have seen it myself
Words to live by. Sometimes it takes people, many years or decades to figure this out.
Never mix business with pleasure, and never invite coworkers to your home never
And this is how the US is in the shite state it is in.
Yes! No one at work is your friend
He is absolutely correct. Going to HR with a complaint is like walking into the lion's den where you are a juicy steak. HR's primary reason for existence is to be the spy branch for the company. They are essentially management, always hv the nicer offices, perks, good pay, and never get in trouble even when they break code. Their role is to prevent lawsuits, not to make sure you get your rightful benefits or paychecks on time.
Best way to avoid all this stupidity is to find a way to earn you own money and nor work for someone else.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Even if you have your own business like say being a plumber you still have a myriad of potential problems and legal issues. It is just a part of life you have to smart enough to be aware and how to best mitigate potential issues.
Most people are not in such a position. Most people are at the mercy of their employers.
Agreed. I am fed up with corporate bs and about to completely throw myself at starting and running my business with all its pros and cons.
OnlyFans and Etsy shops.
I literally filed a retaliation complaint with HR , they started an “investigation” and a week in to the “investigation” , I get fired for “performance issues” .
When i tell you I never went so quick to the EEOC.
I am not surprised!
@@edhones Same here being bullied, mobbed, gaslighting, harassed at the hospital for over 12 years. I've happened to be the top worker for 38 years and have never been suspended. These bullies are jealous and miserable people. Union, manager, HR and the police are all totally useless. Bullies are lazy bums and stupid managers are scared of the bullies. They say about me I'm crazy, I drink, I'm a stalker all bs defamation of character. The biggest mistake since they removed disciplinary measures. They should arrest the bullies and fire the manager. Action speaks louder than nasty words. It destroyed my reputation. I will never quit to make these lazy bums ever win. If I decide to transfer to another hospital and may start mobbing once again, I don't know all the managers ect like in every department like now. So best to not change hospitals. I will never let bullies try to control me from quitting. Never let these low life lazy bums win ever win.
Hey, D, what ever happened to your claim? I hope you won.
They are like your police and court.
What is eeoc
HR is not a Police Department. They are not there to play judge and jury. They are just workers like everybody else. If there is a conflict between two workers, HR is going to do what's right for the company, not the victim. They will usually get rid of the victim, especially if he/she is on the lower hierarchy of the corporate structure. I have heard and read stories about people who complained to HR about harassment. The end result was the victim ended up resigning and in other cases, HR did nothing about it. The only reason I went to HR is that my lawyer said, "You should let HR know because I can tell you right now that the law is not going to help you." If you are being harassed at work, you have to stay there until you find suitable employment. That's what the Unemployment Commission told me.
You are so right!
They're not workers like everybody else. They're turds. They know which side their bread is buttered on so they're company all day long.
I tried that. It didn't work. Labor laws exist for a reason. As do employee rights
Basically as an employee you either put up and shut up.
You are at the mercy of coworkers and management who can run you out as long as they don't target you for 'protected' reasons.
They are looking for monetary damage and retaliation = wrongful termination. If you filed the "written" complaint to HR/Management and they fire you, that's retaliation $$$.
I only deal with HR when I sign/verify a contract, when I need a proof of employment, and when I resign. Else, I stay miles away from them.
Smart
Yes, only complain in your exit conversation.
I agree with this 100%.
As someone who has worked in Human Resources (HR) for a time, I can tell you that HR is there to strictly benefit the company or business, not the people who work there. HR’s sole purpose and reason for existing, is to manage humans, whom a company or business views as simple tools, a resource, to achieve an end goal. HR then attempts to protect the company’s or business’s investments and assets by trying to ensure those tools act and behave in the exact and proper way that they were hired (bought) for, that those tools are following all the proper designated processes and procedures (to avoid legal issues), and ultimately that those tools don’t end up dulling or breaking all together (burn out and/or performance issues). Otherwise, those dull or broken tools will be quickly and easily thrown away and a new tool will be acquired as swiftly as possible as a replacement.
EVERYTHING an HR department does, is ultimately from this lense. If it ever seems like your HR department “cares” about you or is doing something nice for you, know that the ulterior motive behind it stems from the singular purpose and goal I mentioned above. It’s basic manipulation tactics via Psychology.
It’s a government subsidized position for undesirables
Write everything down. Details. I can’t stress this enough - including witnesses. If there is a pattern of events, obtain legal counsel and file a lawsuit.
Did that
I work for a municipality and am in a union and I get EVERYTHING in a email (make AT LEAST 2 copies 1 for myself, 1 for the unions, I make the city EXPLAIN their reasoning for EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING I do I think about IF this went to court would this help my case. HR HATES MY GUTS because I make them actually do their job and not just tell me no.
Was knocked out with concussion at walmart work assault and battery brain damage nobody did shit
Yeah right. Are you that naieve??? 😂😂😂
@@avril.227 I have since time past, life in the fast lane they swept everything under the rug at walmart. I remember details now that time has past short term memory recall is real low and most people don't get me
I studied HR. During my studies I was told HR is supposed to put the right man/woman at the right place and you have to caress your workers for the capital that they are.
Then I worked in HR and soon found out HR is nothing but a buffer between higher management and the workers, tasked with implementing impopular policies to maximize profit or settling personal grudges any manager may have. Workers are only prescious capital when they add value to the stocks of the company, nothing more.
Obviously I quit, because I couldn't morally reconcile my conscience to what I was supposed to do to get payed... and I detest anyone working in HR to this day.
thanks for doing so
This is also what I learned when I studied HR. And I have wondered since where this other thinking is coming from.
*The biggest revelation I learned from HR is that being "Unethical" is not illegal. HR and Management can be as unethical as they want, and there is nothing you can do.*
This is all VERY true. I had an issue with my employer, a Fortune 100 company. I lawyered up early and started collecting information, emails etc. I had months of emails that I turned over. The company did pay me a settlement.
So basically work is just a terrible place to be. You spend years of your life wrenching yourself out of bed at an ungodly hour every morning, drive to an unsafe place that’s uncomfortable and a giant pain in the ass, you’re surrounded by two faced snakes in the grass, your bosses don’t give a single F about you and will screw you hard at your most vulnerable moment. Thank goodness I retired 4 months ago and never have to deal with any of the BS again.
Stated so wonderfully !!
Nah u just wasted ur life at a shitty low end job. It’s better when ur the ceo or in position of power
@@Adoniss99 I was a science teacher and department chair so I wouldn’t consider it really a low end position. 23 years of teaching forensic science and astronomy was definitely not assembly line work.
@@WheelgunsOnWheels that’s cute I’m enjoying my yacht rn at 23 with models in Dubai
Start your own company. What do you think working for others is really all about? It's about the boss getting rich. That's ALL it's ever about. If I had a company, I'd use you for my cash flow, too.
Boss Wrote me up. Filed a complaint to HR. 1st thing she ask me Stacey what you boss wrote is a Fact Right ? HR is a Joke
Lol
Well there was a reason why you got wrote up
Was the write up factual?
Usually when you get written up, it's your fault...
@@BlueDude-cf9mk No it’s not my case because She was fired and it was discovered under our new Sr Manager she was falsified internal documents. So know your facts before making statements. Thanks
Also don't accept therapy from your employer specifically military and police, you open up they'll open the door out.
True. The company shrink is ALWAYS a mole
I worked as HR manager for a few years. I walked away from a sweet salary because I finally realized that I was on the wrong side of the table every time I had to “mediate” a grievance. Last straw was when I was asked to prepare “dossiers” on certain employees.
The thing about HR reducing legal liability by getting rid of the complaint boggles my mind is that it doesn't fix the problem in the most efficient way possible. Maybe they should reduce legal liability by fixing the cause and the employee who complains is almost never the cause. If you fix the cause, you won't have another of the same complaint from another employee.
I worked at companies that don't have an HR department. What do they do when there is a conflict between two workers? They let both workers go and hire workers who can get along with each other.
That would be just if it was true but unfortunately it isn’t, they only protect companies and management!
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 consider yourself a migrant worker.
The problem is that oftentimes an employee only goes to HR to complain about someone higher up on the totem pole, like a supervisor or a manager. In which case, they have a choice: act against the higher-up guy the company values more, or get rid of the lowly grunt the company BARELY values at all.
Even if they end up having to do it 50 times the company will literally consider it less costly to go through new grunt laborers every week.
Everywhere I've worked, HR were ALWAYS very snobby, arrogant and loved to intimidate employees, acting like you should be terrified of them. You are ALWAYS guilty until proven innocent.
Maybe better than the HR who pretends to be on your side.
This video is so right. HR is not for the workers, but for the company.
This is bang on!!!!!! Im living HR drama right now!! HR shares all details!!!!! Trust this man.
I love your presentation. Direct, simple, and to the point. Extremely helpful.
I appreciate that!
@@edhones Keep up the good work. You are very educational. You train people to know what to look for and ask informed questions.
I once complained with HR because the company has not paid my Health insurance for more than a year and my salary was paid with delay every month. They did absolutely nothing. I am still wondering what they do all day, besides keeping up with a 100% staff turnover...
HR works for your boss, not you. This is why everyone needs a union
That is not a true statement. I thought my union was there to protect me and I found out my union was working with my employer to fire me. That is why my employer has gotten away with this for so long. Someone before me had endured 18 years of bullying and harassment and discrimination and had to quit. Same as the agency I worked for before. She had worked there for 24 years and was bullied and harassed and to constructively terminate. Oops, there were two people that work there for 24 years the other one was fired.
@@HostileWorkplaceEXPOSED
So the correct statement is "no one protect the workers but themselves"
Unions are for losers I’d never need any of this
Unions do nothing more than protect the weakest link. Good, productive people end up paying for the knuckleheads and slackers. If you really have worth, you shouldn’t need to depend on others to get paid for it. Don’t let 5he slackers hold you down.
the main difference between the company and a union is the union doesn’t make shit or have to balance the books. they both exist to protect and promote themselves.
why they are called Hopeless Resources
Never complain to HR. Ever! This should really be taught in high school. I was fired at the age of 45 years old, I never knew not to complain to HR but I know now. Yes, even if it is harassment it is better to start looking for another job than to go to HR because you will be fired, if you bring a complaint. Unions also are not on your side. If you are going to sue make sure you ask for a lot of money because jobs are hard to come by today and if you are fired you no longer have a reference from that company so you have to contact a previous managers which could be a problem - they have left the company or they don't want to provide a reference because they have issues! Laws need to be changed to protect workers. No, one should have to put up with being harassed at work.
My managers and supervisors drove me to severe suicidal ideation which began to form plans and behavioural actions.
Took what they were doing to me, massive documentation list and recordings, to HR.
My managers got promoted.
I quit the next day and no one asked why I was leaving. Yet I was always the one they called when short staffed. Every time.
Yah um wat
HR is like Safety Department. They protect the company. Not you. Safety department cares nothing about YOUR safety. They are there for the safety of the company.
HR is not the friend of any employee. Anyone that tells you any different, is simply just lying to you.
or selling you something :)
HR staff are the disgusting blue falcons of society.
I think if you have an issue big enough to where you're thinking of taking it HR, talk to a lawyer first. Have your lawyer write HR a letter. Once the company knows you have enough money to afford a lawyer and can sue them, they're less likely to turn on you and make you the problem. However, if you can't afford a lawyer, instead of going to HR, go on Indeed and start looking for a new job. HR will NOT solve your problems. They will make YOU the problem and they will activity work towards making you go away.
Twenty-one years ago I suffered occupational over-use injuries. I worked for a school district. L&I at that time required an investigation of work-place injury within ten days of (W694816) report. ESD 123 granted themselves four (4) 90 day extensions, denying payment for on-the-job medical injuries' treatment through all that time, and after having worked with overuse injuries for a year I retained an attorney as medical providers had sent me to collections. By the second 90-day extension I understood who I worked for and every email was printed and kept in a file at home. During discovery the school district claimed to have "lost" my email account but we demolished them. 'This principal emailed our client here, that administrator emailed client then, do you have their emails? Defendant has repeatedly demonstrated bad-faith.' Repeated L&I violations by a government agency are akin to qualified immunity. Keep up the good work!
The way you're describing it makes me wonder if there's any point of HR at all. Sometimes I have wondered if there was any kind of HR department I could have complained about at various jobs I hated and left in the past. I also know in many cases your immediate supervisor isn't even the one making any decisions when it comes to whether you are fired or not.
One thing I know for sure is when I got fired from working at graton casino I can tell by the tone of my supervisors voice that even though she told me that they were firing me I could tell by her tone that she didn't actually agree with their decision. She knew I was a really good worker and that it was unfair that I got fired over one incident nobody
The point of HR is that it is a buffer between management and the executives. It exists as a tool to implement impopular decisions that affect the entire company (cost reduction, profit increase) or settle personal grudges any manager may have against you (which means you will eventually lose your job).
HR will NEVER intervene on behalf of an executive: representing an executive against the company would hurt the company and representing an executive against another executive would put the reputation of the company in jeopardy. In neither case HR has nothing to gain.
HR in big companies are why unions are needed !!
As a retired employee who never dealt with HR (thank God!), I've watched a few of these videos and they all are pretty much the same. So now that I have this knowledge about HR, this is what I would do if I were in a situation where I needed to file a complaint with HR. First, I would go to my lawyer and share my complaint with them. Secondly, I would file my complaint with HR with a letter from my lawyer establishing strength to avoid any monkey business from HR. This approach, I believe, protects and weaponizes me to the level of the company and forces HR to do it job correctly. And if HR doesn't like this approach, well, they can take an aspirin.
If you can afford a lawyer. Which most people can't. That's why HR knows they can do anything they want to you because you can't do shit back.
@@SonicDeeHedgehog Seeing a lawyer for a letter of representation is just a few hundred dollars. It's just saying, this is my client. Treat him well, and I won't have to take legal action. Companies don't like legal action. It cost them too much in legal fees and bad publicity.
This game about HR 😊
@@mutleymutley7474also depending how rich they are they could have Like 10 lawyers working for them and keep stalling on everything until you get financially depleted.
Idk there has to be some like sneak around “attack “
What if you and the HR director literally become super tight and like friends. HR ppl usually done get anyone to see them unless it’s work related about complaints, but if you come and see them daily from the moment you get your job and gradually grow a close friendship I feel like it could be a potential safety net down the line.
That’s my plan for the next place I go to. Or I need to Revamp my business- I gave it all up for a 2 hour pitch about a job that’s so amazing and all inclusive w housing etc so who could turn that down ? My tiny consulting was actually doing well and sustaining after I left my previous job to tend to my medical needs. I gave all of that up for these mfs lol I am so angry w myself for being once again naive and believing that owners have best interest at heart.
If I am ever employed by a company again me and the HR director will be bffs - watxh lol
3 months before I left company manager of department 2 told head of department I, they want me working for them full-time,
I won't be going back to department 1.
Shortly thereafter the head of department 1 (Indian) got Indian employees to start harassing me (walk past my chair saying 'head of department 1 said he won't stop harassing you until you leave', head of department 1 wants to get rid of you, you think because you of .... nationality we must be scared of you, etc.). Not to mention on my way out of building (going home) an Indian employee threatening me with a knife and gun. Told HR I'm fed up with the harassment, thinking of going to arbitration association and going to a labor lawyer.
Next day called into urgent meeting, suspended for 45 days, then called into disciplinary meeting (accused of fake charges) and dismissed. 4 days later received email stating company received my resignation letter - I never resigned.
Prior to above happening to me another white employee (different department) was targeted by same head of department 1, the white employee resigned with Immediate effect. His work was moved over to department 1 (Indian employees).
Does that sound like nepotism / racism / discrimination by head of department 1 (Indian) ?
Was the intention to replace me with Indian employees of department 1 (just like with other white employee) ?
I chose to fight unfair treatment at work (unfair labor practice) by not responding or retaliating (just ignored it), but reported issue to HR. What is the lesson in above scenario, don't ever trust HR (human resources), if you're an employee, they are not your friend. Don't complain, just get another job, then resign.
This is so very true. One time during an investigation into an employee in our division, all of us were called by HR to discuss a toxic situation. I know i and others felt safe to say what was witnessed or how we were impacted and were hopeful that justice would be on the side of the innocent. Our expectations were smashed when HR called the division manager and revealed everything and who said what. We were retalliated on and the working conditions became hard to work in for quite awhile, meanwhile the innocent were condemned, we were treated disrespectfully, and the problem worsened. H.R is not on your side
HR is there to protect the company from the employees. full stop.
What i find absolutely CRAZY is why is the superior, the higher paid employee being complained about the one being defended.
Like how is the one pointing out racial discrimination, bullying, hostile work environment, making people qanf to kill themselves etc why isnt the PROBLEM the one that gets seen as the risk and not the ones suffering.
I believe it is because if you bring these problems to light, then someone has to literally do something, and heaven forbid someone has to do some actual work.
I didn't do anything but stand up for my rights. Ticked off everybody. I was faced with a hostile work environment, nasty things being said about me. All type of things. Because I was tired of being taken advantage of.
never go to HR. well maybe to ask a question about health benefits or the time of day. but when I asked about my health benefits, I was handed a brochure, and then she just stared at me.
A coworker made HR complains for sexual harassments from another coworker. They completely swept the case under the rug because they HR claimed "oh he wouldn't do that. I don't need to talk to him. You can go back to work now" . She was harrased once again, and she quit. HR was begging for her to stay, but she refused.
I had to threaten to call the police twice on my job, on 2 separate occasions for human resources for them to take me seriously.
You gotta treat HR like an enemy, they are the number 1 threat to your job! Even if you ever witness anything at work and they ask you about it always deny it and never go to them for help!
Who ever thought HR is a friend? The only time you should ever interact with them is when they hire you
HR is literally the government’s kommissar, political, office within companies.
I learned this ages ago. HR protects the managers. It must be a depressing role to work in. The best thing to do is to join a union, but workers should be suspicious of them too. Depending on the union, they can make their living by being cantankerous. That is, they’d rather exacerbate matters than seek a resolution that both the worker and employer can be happy with. I believe this is deliberate.
Unions are also not there to help you.
Subscribed! A coworker of mine made a complaint to HR about a problem and i decided to do some research on HR departments and came across your channel!
Follow up every complaint or word of mouth interaction with an email. Make copies of that email. Don’t ever sign anything. Document everything with dates and times. Hire a Lawyer. HR and said defendant were caught in lies during their “investigation” because I did as mentioned above along with legal advice from an employment lawyer. They have no choice but to settle now. They screwed themselves with their own investigation. If they didn’t get caught lying it would have been a tough road because they tried to cover everything up.
Can we get a video for those of us doing the grunt work in HR (like data entry) on how we can protect ourselves? HR doesn’t just go after non-HR employees. They go after all of us at the bottom too, only we have to engage with HR every minute of every day and risk having the beast turn on us too. It isn’t just a once in a while interaction. Every single day you walk in can be the day that breaks you
I went to HR once for a toxic boss who was lying about my performance. The HR person said "well I talked to him and he seemed fine". I tried to transfer and found out later HR went to each hiring manager and told them not to hire me.
As someone in HR, I completely agree with the point about HR's role in the organization. I recently shared a similar story about this on my channel!
In office job, no one in the workplace is your friend. No matter how friendly they constantly may appear.
Yes, I have seen that. HR always identifies with management. Workers must NEVER go to HR. The best thing is to belong to a union.
I have experienced all this nonsense. It's true, HR should ALWAYS be considered as an adversarial entity. They are not just not your friend, if you are having problems at work, they are your enemy.
HR does come through sometimes. A leader was fired at my job was fired after all of their direct reports complained to HR about their behavior and huge amounts of evidence was collected. They decided he was more a risk than losing his whole team.
Exactly. HR weighed up their options and decided this was the path of least resistance.
Your manager will be told before you can get back to your desk. Been there and had it done to me.
This is why people hate big corporations so much. This is why there is no company loyalty anymore and most people only work to the rule and eventually quiet quit. It's the equivalent of having a coach that doesn't give a shit about the players on the team. They just won't produce for him. It's a losing formula based on no trust, treachery and selfishness.
another excellent video, thanks ! yes, HR is definitely not what it feigns to be. revealing is that X number of years ago (decades) there weren't any HR departments, this is a newer invention, and it was not made to support staff.
I had an HR manager do this while I was on medical leave. I checked in weekly as supposed to and they took notes, but then when they threatened to fire me for not being on medical leave because they didn't approve it, all the notes were 'lost' and they had my manager tell their narrative. Fortunately, I kept paperwork and was able to prove it was approved but they harassed me so bad I quit. Found out later I should have let them fire me then I could sue.
so truth , I totally agree with your sayings . I have witnessed that .truth that .
When I worked in a factory. The only times I was called into HR was so i can fill out my information for payroll and signing up for direct deposit. I would say hi to the Hr ladies when i came into work daily. They were friendly but I didn't trust them. So i kept everything brief.
At 3:54, while I agree that HR can be shameful in its lies, it's also noteworthy that some HR offices (or at least some HR generalists) are just plain incompetent. I've seen HR offices lacking in basic knowledge of admin leave, payroll processing timelines, and other separation logistics. Heck, these HR folks would love to lie and wish they had enough process and legal knowledge to do so, but, alas, the best they can do is start to run with the ball and then take a tumble.
Little tip here Ladies and Gents. Don't ever let HR know you are more intelligent than them, you will be fired for denting their ego's. It happened to me at shAMAZON UK.
For real. Some tend to be overzealous and overstep even other members of management.
They want to talk on the phone or in person so there are no records. What you do, after ea h call or meeting, is write HR an email that contains the details of what was discussed and any action agreed to. Conclude the email by saying you want to be sure you understand everything that was discussed. Ask them if you email is correct. If they say yes, goof for you. If they say no, they have to commit their version in writing.
Also, check the laws where you live. You may legally be able to record them without their permission. If so, never discuss the recordings they're for if you go to court. BUT CHECK THE LAW! in some places it is illegal to record a conversation without the permission of everyone involve. Do not break the law.
Who says you can't do anything? Im pretty sure in Texas if your manager or HR department cuts your throat, they must immediately start sleeping with one eye open and stay out of any place public or risk taking a severe beat down in front of their family
40 years ago a complaint "I dislike my coworker" were dismissed, but nowadays taken seriously.
This and the video about your coworkers are not your friend, should be required viewing for every single worker in America.
That is the truth!!!!
working in America must be the worst thing ever
During my first job as a teen I thought HR was a position to kind of fight against the company in your favor. Boy I was wrong, made a legitimate claim against my shift manager, 2 weeks later I was fired for suspicion of theft. Now I'll be honest with you, I was thieving up a storm, but they never actually knew that, they just wanted me gone
This is why most people who get fired are not victims, just bad workers lol! They probably knew someone was stealing but your complaint just made them focus on you and kick you out. Fumbled the bag.
Can't be stealing or slacking on a job then bring attention to yourself haha! Hope you learned from it.
I noticed that a lot of these HR departments and Hiring Managers be way to close its links the HIring managers got there hands in the HR department
I remember telling my friend who worked as a grievance coordinator for a big PBM that her actual job was to "protect" the company's interest, not help the customers, and although helping the customers can be a part of it, its not the main focus of that job. My friend refused to believe me...
This is what happens when you live in a corporate dystopia and I hate it.
This is so spot on!!!!
Nice video. I am a retired software engineer and I can definitely confirm the things talked about in the video. As Ed said, not all HR reps are bad (at least in theory), but for whatever it's worth, I've never had a "good" HR experience.
Don’t ever consult with HR.
You need to get all your proof like any emails, notes about what went on out of the company's reach asap. Once you report, your chances of keeping it are diminshed.
I appreciate the info sir! I just lost my job with a island municipality here in NC. However since this is a right to work state they can fire me because they didn't feel good that day and just wanted to see a man crushed...
I wish I saw this clip 4yrs ago.
I lost my job as I complained to hr about my line manager. 😢
HR makes the victim a vilaine
Thank you so much for your videos! I'm sure it will help many people! Greetings from UK!❤❤
It depends on the organization’s culture.
This is shot for shot what happened to me. Great work. Wish I had known and seen this before.
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You are 100% right
I made complaints against my boss
Few months later they fired me
I took them to the court,they were little bit scared so they offered me 22k$ .
100% true. HR exists to protect the company, and never the individual employee. Any talk to the contrary is nothing but professional deception.
Yeah, I work as a home health provider and the clients can keep cameras in their home. I was violently harrassed at 8 months pregnant.
What happened
There’s a reason Michael Scott hates Toby
Shalom! I am currently going thru this right now. One manager has already contacted Human Resources about me. I was recently given a consultation over something petty; the manager said she has been talking to Human Resources and will begin documenting my actions at work. She and another manager issued me a PIP. I maybe on my way out.
@@vooo1314 Yes, thank you vooo1314. Everyone has told me to document everything; I have had some employees give me information I can use. During this I have come to the conclusion that Human Resources is definitely not my friend.
@@vooo1314 I failed to mention that the two managers that believe are seeking to oust me have been for months now micromanaging me.
Document, document, document. Good wishes to you. @@BigDust200 Fear not.
@@BigDust200same with mine
@@vooo1314I will start soon. For sure my “team” and uppers are bánding against me
HR's function is ALWAYS FIRST and FOREMOST to protect the company. NEVER forget this EVER!!
I worked for a company for 17 years. I had never in my life went to the HR department. I had 2 employees who I feared would (and in fact did) retaliate against me for being punished by "other" Managers. I wrote a short email letter to HR about my concerns and sent it. The Literal next day, I was immediately written up and told that any further write up would result in my termination. I was shocked, baffled and absolutely terrified. Then, I read Cynthia Shapiro's book called "Corporate Confidential". It was so good, I read it twice. I wish I had known the invaluable knowledge that book contained before thinking I was building up the courage and being brave to broach my issues to HR at the company. It was obvious HR was NOT there to help me in ANY way. It was a career altering mistake. NEVER TRUST HR! They are NOT there to help you, but to protect the company FROM you, and that edict with override every other responsibility...
We used to call them the "road block" department.
Hr,the union,and the companies are all in the same bed together 90% of the time!
Absolutely true, thank you
I learned this lesson in a hard way a few years ago. I dated the company hr for a few months and after we broke up, things get awkward, affecting my performance and ended up resigning. Never again.
I learned that just before I retired from a hospital I worked at and and a job I once loved for 36 years. An HR person was assigned to our nursing unit to "be there for us and our needs and address our concerns" but she was actually helping the unhinged manager abuse the employees. All 50+ us have resigned or found new jobs.
Somebody please help....a company I know are seemingly "deeply concerned" about employees mental health. Encouraging fellow workers to help their colleagues and if employees are concerned enough to report the so called ailing individual to HR so they can help. I have some thoughts on this, what do others think, I'd love to know?
Somebody needs to get their shit together
Protecting u as an employee is protecting the company from catching lawsuits
That's so stupid
Get rid of the problematic worker so they sue
We have to change these slave master ways
The thing is, you can sue but all they have to do is make up a bunch of reasons why YOU were a bad employee and that was why you were let go. The second they see you as a problem, they watch every single move you make. You took a minute longer during break? That's getting written down. You forgot to write the date on a document? That's getting written down. They won't tell you they're watching you. But they're watching you and building a case against you. Even though you went to them because you're being sexually harassed.
One of my last companies always got rid of employees by putting them on PIPs. It’s suspicious when 10% of your department is on a PIP. They’re also unattainable so they could create documentation that the dismissal was for poor performance and they could get out of paying unemployment.
Very dirty.
Rule 1 in life: Don’t talk to the police.
Rule 2 in life: Don’t talk to HR.
Rule 3 in life: Get a good lawyer even if you have to sell something to afford it. I had to hire one for a speeding violation earlier this year and it honestly felt like cheating in the courtroom😂. They handled everything and I just had to stand there and look innocent.
You are so right
Everything he is saying is so true and heartbreaking b/c it’s saddening
Best thing you can do is be savvy and catch your company in a retaliation scenario, and then sit on it. It’s ace that insures longer tenure, bet
Wish I saw this about 10 yrs ago before I was forced into signing my severance package 😢
Yeah.... caught my supervisor doing drugs at work cleaning school's, when I reported it what I thought was anonymously. Was fired 3 days late.
How do we hold employers responsible
Through laws and unions. If you work in the States currently there are no political parties that support these issues.
What if you send them a complaint and don't respond? Or respond to your concern, but nothing actually happens.
Are white blue collar concerns also protected or just white collar jobs?