Hagerty has something special on their hands. Jason is an amazing host, and the production quality is insane. If they stick with videos like these, it’s game over.
why isn't this a movie? took my deepest love for cars and gave it a lesson, the end of it made me realize how fast we are in a new era of automobilism, and the motorsports and culture as we know it is going to pass on the books
@@FloreFaune those old Supras are built and tuned by Joe blows, not a multi billion dollar company. It's like the idiots who discredit the power of the Vipers abilities, a lone company took some stock vipers and almost ran sub 7s on Nuremberg, imagine if dodge was behind it.
@@FloreFaune in 10 years the Toyota MK4 Supra will still have a higher price than the M5CS, in 20 years no one will remember the M5CS but the MK4 Supra will still be the car ppl dream about.
Top Gear can just go and pack their bags. Period. This is automotive journalism and editing at it's absolutely finest. The way they portray EVERY FRICKIN' CAR at Hagerty's is nothing less than brilliant. I'm sitting here with my headphones with goosebumps all over, just enjoying the show every damn time 🤩Keep up the fantastic work, guys! Huge love and greetings from Norway.
There’s no such thing as a boring Hagerty video, especially when Cammisa’s at the helm, you can count on the automotive journalism to be top notch. They’ve really taken it to a whole new level with the production quality. The way they compliment the new machines by throwing cars from yesterday into the fold. No one else is doing it quite like Hagerty.
Since Hagerty by virtue of car auctions will have access to cool cars like this far into the future, (and hopefuly enough cash to fuel them up) they stand poised to take over this genre, and not just from Top Gear. Acceleration competition will be a moot point with EV's...to the point that physics (and good sense for a road legal car) will limit just how fast 60 mph can be reached from a stop. All other car journos will be busy trying to get people excited about the latest outlandish bodywork and interiors that have more LCD (or LED, OLED whatever) screens covering every square inch than they do plastics or leather. (pleather far more likely) People will get excited about that stuff for a while but then the shark will eventually be jumped and car makers are left trying to reinvent the wheel...and not just the steering wheel, thats already been done. We can't see it now because of all the cool looking new EV's that will be coming out in the next decade or so, but this is the beginning of the end of personal transportation. The car companies that survive will be left competing for the best mass transit vehicles...self driving electric busses, high speed trains etc..
This was such a captivating episode to watch. I love how you guys created a story arc that went from the IS500’s old-school nature to the insane progress of the S58 in the M4. Long live Toyota, Lexus, and BMW. They’re making some seriously fun cars.
@@moonman_8935 Until it snows lmao, not a knock against Lexus but I wouldn't want to take that thing out in the snow, it would be like exposing a work of art to a sledgehammer... With the Subie on the other hand its like elementary school recess, running, jumping, screaming, getting scraped up, and not caring because your a kid and your supposed to be doing this... Two very different cars, each excellent in their own right, but personally I'd take the Subie...
This felt like watching a movie. Cant believe I'm watching something of this caliber on youtube. You guys and your team always raise the bar by making such masterpieces.
I can confidently say I’m pleased that I just bought an IS500 sight unseen today. It’s a dinosaur in comparison to every other car in its class. What can I say, I’m an old man who wants to hear a V8.
Man gratz to u man i wanna say in 40 years when im in my 60s i will do something similiar. But im in my early 20s and that would be a bad financial idea.
Congratulations to you man but is500 is slower than any car in its class which is the c63. M3. RS4. Alfa Romeo Guilia. It’s not a dinosaur for any of this car. Even the entry level Audi beats an LFA in a 1/4 race 😂
Ok im sorry i love modern cars and 0-60 times, but the sound of that 2JZ beating off the limiter legit gave me goosebumps and brought real tears to my eyes! Absolutely beautiful
I don’t really care for drag races, but man, this is not just a drag race. This is Jason Cammisa, this is automotive video brilliance, this is a story, intelligent insights and crazy edited. Love it!
Here's why the m240i won and the supra was behind. All wheel drive. Sometimes the extra weight of the m240i doesn't matter when all wheel drive gets it off the line perfectly and the horsepower keeps it going hard. The supra was catching up to it quick it would have passed it if the distance was longer. The 400lb difference didn't make a difference in the quarter mile. If the supra had awd it would do 0-60 in 3.4 and 1/4 mile faster than m240i
Aside from Jason and Randy in the same video, the effects and production quality of this series is premium. The edit team are true masters at the craft! Amazing content!
This video was even better than anticipated. Most drag race videos are filled with senseless rambling and a small bit of action. Not Hagerty... You guys are killing the game! Thoroughly enjoyable to watch from start to finish, your videos are not only entertaining and informative but also thought and emotion-provoking. Your videos help display what being a car guy is all about and I can't get enough of it!
Everyone knows toyota wouldn't take bmw's stuff unless they validated that the b58 is reliable enough, that's why the supra has a b58. Toyota kept sending parts back to bmw because they didn't pass toyota's testing.
What a conspiracy theory. The b58 was existing before the Supra and therefore the manufacturing process was already set up. BMW indeed improved the engine with the years, but the first iteration was already a beast. Part of the reason is that they cut costs by sharing parts between diesel and gasoline engines and therefore have them set up for higher forces. Nonetheless already the predecessors of the b58 have been very good and have great tuning potential. Another thing is that the the engineers already had the s58 in mind which is used nearly unchanged in gt racing cars. Toyota has nothing to do with it. They are lucky to find a manufacturer that builds stuff like that and was willing to build a car in this segment, because they also wanted to have a new z4.
@@omnihein9322 literally no fueling mods needed, just a downpipe and you're at 700hp on pump gas, on an ethanl blend they hit 800hp. 9.6 quarter mile with a simple downpipe.... crazyyyy
@@iKrakenOfficial I mean, I would skip the fuelling mods all together tbh, Red bull drift brothers made 1040hp on pump gas with only upgraded turbos, port injection, and some light modifications to the head geometry. Can't wait for my m3 xdrive to arrive, though I'll wait for the warranty to end before I do any mods and I won't be doing anything too crazy.
Probably one of the best car review and presentation I have ever seen on TH-cam. Utterly brilliant well done to everyone who contributed to making this video hats off
Every time they allude to an electric future in videos like these, I always get hit in the feels. It never fails lol. I'll keep my ICE til I die. Spectacular production quality, as always. Big up Jason!
Looking at these videos, they give EV's too much credit for killing off the interesting car. Just look at nearly all BMW's and porkers from the past decade, then look at the Supra.
Man this nearly brought a tear to my eye, what a beautiful piece of art. I'm about to watch a few more times🥺brilliant cars + brilliant production = something that should be considered a masterpiece 🏆👏👏👏
This is another kind of TH-cam Channel, the quality here is in another level, Hagerty and Jason this is pure gold, congratulations! PD: More videos please!
I watch these vids simply because Jason is fantastic! He has the magic that very few do (Clarkson, Hammond, May) then you sprinkle in a little Randy and you realize you really have something special here. Focus on this formula and watch things thrive! Review old stuff when theres nothing new, possibilities are endless!
On a side note what I love the most about this channel is that it delivers on what gear heads want to hear and see with no extra silly stuff or boring content. Hagerty delivers! :)
There is a passenger in the Supra during the race on 3 way B58 that gives it a big disadvantage not enough weight difference to catch up to AWD Xdrive BMW.
this is simply the best drag race ive seen on youtube, everything is just insane, well done to everyone involved in this. Hope we will have it with amg's too
eh Supra is on the strictly two door Z4 platform. The 2 and 3 are much more similar to each other since 2 is just a chopped wheelbase 3 but still has back seats
@@papa_pt not really it's still the same CLAR platform. BMW has never been the best at building dedicated sportscars since they always just rework existing ( usually 3-series ) platforms. Hence why the BMW Z4 weigh a lot for what was supposed to be a "dedicated sportscar". BMW is at their best when building practical fast saloons. Side note : exception could be the Z8. I'm not saying it's bespoke, I just haven't checked.
@@thatcopenguy if you're going off CLAR you could call the Supra and X6 siblings too. It's actually pretty good on weight what other modern sports car (minus Porsche) around that PRICE w/ at least a 6 cyl weighs 3400lbs in the US?
Great vid man, this race isn't ideal for the supra but high power rwd manual brought the biggest smile which is where a lot of newer cars fall short, they've been made to be fast with most average drivers where as it takes a lot more to handle something like the supra
What most people don't know is that the M240i has the same software throttle mapping as the M5 CS. The M340i and Supra do not, as you can tell in this video. And...of course BMW wouldn't give Toyota all it's goodies even though I love the new Supra. Great video, love that 2JZ!
@@KillswitchRobie828 Those engines are not reliable or bulletproof like the legendary 2JZ. Outside of hardcore bmw fans nobody lusts after the S50/S54 M88 like the 2JZ.
The production quality keeps getting better and better! But that was evident from episode 1. The secret sauce is that this doesn't feel like the typical car reviews or comparisons where the hosts just read numbers and feign scripted emotions. Jason is having mad fun, and it shows in every segment. Also, great to have Randy on the show. Always loved him on Motor Trend.
@@R_o_b_e_r_t You said speed as if you meant straight line performance. Yes, M340i has better cornering but the IS500 has a better steering feedback. The front of the Lexus communicates better with the driver, however the BMW has better grip and better exiting speed thanks to its AWD. At the end of the day I chose the IS500 over its German competitors because it actually has a soul and a character, unlike the others that felt dull because of all the electronics taking over the car control. Drive both around the track and you will understand what I mean.
THIS is what 2JZGTE engines do best! They reel in their opponent’s, catching in the top-end, 2nd half of the race. Once you get past 3rd gear, it hooks and all that power is no match for most of the competition. 2JZGTE for life! 👊😎
The quality of this video alone, was enough to make me subscribe, at a point I was lost, I wasn't even focused on the cars anymore but the excellent movie scenes
As a life long gearhead that does auto X, track days, works lives, and breathes cars, I honestly think cars today are too damn fast. You can't use this power other than at a race track
Great Video! But to make a comparison with a drag built MK4 and the M4, this should of been done on a prepped track. You can have all the power in the world, if you can't put it down then a lot of other cars will definitely make you look slow. I bet the MK4 would of hooked a lot faster, making the numbers less at the finish line.
I think this is a point that a lot of people miss. It’s obvious that you need a prepped track to make a drag car work, but 90% of people don’t get that (believe me you’d be surprised). This needed to be done for them to see.
the car was likely setup for preped surface aswell meaning that if it has boost by gear/ speed it was way over what it should be aiming at, launching with anti lag on also didn't help as it should be making enough power without it.
Fun video; those BMW engines are no joke. Having never driven any of them, I'm curious as to how the driving experience is beyond the engine though? I've heard a number of critics say that BMWs no longer have the driving dynamics they once did.
People who criticize BMW driving dynamics are not saying that they're bad, because the M cars are always perfectly balanced with a lot of touch. Mainly the complaints come from old school BMW fans, the ones who fell in love with the e30s or e46s, those cars were powerful and veery LIGHT. Nowadays, even the M2s which are the closest modern beamer to those old ones I mentioned, still weight around 1700kg, which is not close to light at all
From what I heard, these new BMWs are so efficient they are void of any excitement. If you're looking for something fun, you may want to look elsewhere.
The production on these little vids is insane! 👏🏻 Randy is one of the all time greats! Such is the progress indeed. Stock factory warrantied engines with stock drive trains absolutely blitzing the straight line. Although, the crazy turbo bov on that Supra is really nostalgic. 😉👏🏻 Keep them coming everyone! Always look forward to these vids. 👏🏻
@@markleckband4495 he's asking about a modified N54. Although I don't think there's a reason to other than hanging out with the MK4 Supra (being the only modified car here).
From a rolling race the Supra would beat the M240i. xDrive always wins in drag races, especially pretty short ones. Anyway, insane production quality! Love these!
@@onlystockcars3769 There has been lot of races done. Supra walks the m240i on roll you can search if you want. This is one video and one run but it's a fact that Supra is noticeably faster on a roll race.
You can clearly see the Supra had a slower start and then kept on pulling on 340i and catching up slowly to m240i so the trap speed doesn't look right. It's going at least 2 mph faster than 340i clearly the way it's pulling on it.
“With 3 times the horsepower you would have thought the Supra would have annihilated the M4.” No one in their right mind with even a shred of car knowledge is going to think a 25 year old 1200hp rwd manual transmission Supra is going to annihilate a new awd M4 in the 1/4 mile from a dig 😂.
If the race was done on a prepped surface track the results would have been alot different coz the supra would have had more traction but this was done on a normal surface and clearly anyone who knows about rwd cars with 1000+hp manual knows it's not going to be easy beating a AWD computer shifting car in a quarter mile still you can see once the supra Mk4 got traction it started reeling that m4 in as if it was not even floored none other then less all of these cars are Damm good in there own different ways and like Jason said enjoy them while you can coz soon there will be no 2UR-GSE V8,2JZ-GTE sound no B58 or S58 which will be a shame for the car enthusiasts
Man, I binged maybe half of your videos on TH-cam over the last week and I gotta say I love the quality you guys put into it. I wish I could do the same for my gaming content
I think the Supra is slower because of the close ratios. I think it’s because of the great torque not being used properly. Sometimes close gear ratios are not best, it can even cause the car to have to spin the tires more or activate traction control more etc, just my theory. I would like to see them with the same ratios and then race
If you wanna be successful, you most take responsibility for your emotions, not place the blame on others. In addition to make you feel more guilty about your faults, pointing the finger at others will only serve to increase your sense of personal accountability. There's always a risk in every investment, yet people still invest and succeed. You most look outward if you wanna be successful in life.
I think everyone hating the new Supra is awesome. What’s happening right now is quite literally the exact same story to happen to the Mk4. Toyota makes a sports car, people complain about it, no one buys it, then people realise that it has the world’s best straight 6. Only this time, people are slowly realising that.
They definitely did. The reason why I ;9!5 believe the conspiracy theory that Jason made is that the GR Supra actually makes more power than the BMW cars if you were to put them on the dyno. And Toyota has done some work on these cars for sure.
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production quality is insane. Hagerty never fails to deliver
Its not hagerty its jason
@@I4k_au both combined
It's absolutely bonkers.
Not even really interested in the title but came to watch because of the production.
100 percent agree. the formatting and the way the presenter delivers the show is top notch.
Hagerty has something special on their hands. Jason is an amazing host, and the production quality is insane. If they stick with videos like these, it’s game over.
They have rhe quality to make a TV show series. I would definitely tune in every week to watch!
@@bubblelex5051 I haven’t watched tv in years. Leave it on the tube please without too many producers getting involved
Who gives a flying broom handle about TV?
why isn't this a movie? took my deepest love for cars and gave it a lesson, the end of it made me realize how fast we are in a new era of automobilism, and the motorsports and culture as we know it is going to pass on the books
Yes on the host and production no on the rest
It’s very nice seeing Jason get to do these crazy videos, he’s absolutely thriving at Hagerty
and lets face it, we're eating it up so it's a positive feedback loop
The Supra passing in the last moment bought a tear to my eye. In a happy way.
Well that’s nice, cos the m5cs would’ve embarrassed that old machine
@@FloreFaune those old Supras are built and tuned by Joe blows, not a multi billion dollar company. It's like the idiots who discredit the power of the Vipers abilities, a lone company took some stock vipers and almost ran sub 7s on Nuremberg, imagine if dodge was behind it.
It they can fit a blower to stop the turbo log it will be insanely faster I think 🤔 🤔 🤔.
@@FloreFaune in 10 years the Toyota MK4 Supra will still have a higher price than the M5CS, in 20 years no one will remember the M5CS but the MK4 Supra will still be the car ppl dream about.
@@fcorivers cope
I don’t get the genuine ignorance behind your comment, I’m sorry I offended you by making a joke about a metal machine
Top Gear can just go and pack their bags. Period. This is automotive journalism and editing at it's absolutely finest. The way they portray EVERY FRICKIN' CAR at Hagerty's is nothing less than brilliant. I'm sitting here with my headphones with goosebumps all over, just enjoying the show every damn time 🤩Keep up the fantastic work, guys! Huge love and greetings from Norway.
There’s no such thing as a boring Hagerty video, especially when Cammisa’s at the helm, you can count on the automotive journalism to be top notch. They’ve really taken it to a whole new level with the production quality. The way they compliment the new machines by throwing cars from yesterday into the fold. No one else is doing it quite like Hagerty.
@@MrKnoxguy101 Funny thing is I have never and still do not like jason. I find he contradicts himself a lot and has a lot of bias.
@@stevew145 skip it.
Since Hagerty by virtue of car auctions will have access to cool cars like this far into the future, (and hopefuly enough cash to fuel them up) they stand poised to take over this genre, and not just from Top Gear. Acceleration competition will be a moot point with EV's...to the point that physics (and good sense for a road legal car) will limit just how fast 60 mph can be reached from a stop. All other car journos will be busy trying to get people excited about the latest outlandish bodywork and interiors that have more LCD (or LED, OLED whatever) screens covering every square inch than they do plastics or leather. (pleather far more likely) People will get excited about that stuff for a while but then the shark will eventually be jumped and car makers are left trying to reinvent the wheel...and not just the steering wheel, thats already been done. We can't see it now because of all the cool looking new EV's that will be coming out in the next decade or so, but this is the beginning of the end of personal transportation. The car companies that survive will be left competing for the best mass transit vehicles...self driving electric busses, high speed trains etc..
Gotta clarify american topgear this has nothing on jeremy clarkson james may and richard hammond
I didn't know I needed this. What a quality video team; hat's off to all of you!
This was such a captivating episode to watch. I love how you guys created a story arc that went from the IS500’s old-school nature to the insane progress of the S58 in the M4. Long live Toyota, Lexus, and BMW. They’re making some seriously fun cars.
I've got a IS500 Launch Edition love this car I had a 2021 STI before & don't miss it lol 2UR-GSE > EJ257
Been doing that bud
Really surprised to see the Lexus in the mix seemed out of place imo!
@@moonman_8935 Until it snows lmao, not a knock against Lexus but I wouldn't want to take that thing out in the snow, it would be like exposing a work of art to a sledgehammer... With the Subie on the other hand its like elementary school recess, running, jumping, screaming, getting scraped up, and not caring because your a kid and your supposed to be doing this... Two very different cars, each excellent in their own right, but personally I'd take the Subie...
@@griffins5655 With a good set of snow tires there should be no problem in the snow
Welcome back to the best and most concise drag racing series on the internet!
My day Instantly gets better when I realize there's a new Cammisa video on hagerty.
CarWoW is better.
@@toncheky no
@@sakvv To each their own 🤷🏻♂️
@@toncheky In terms of drag races then yeah but In terms of production quality no free content gets close to Hagerty.
This felt like watching a movie. Cant believe I'm watching something of this caliber on youtube. You guys and your team always raise the bar by making such masterpieces.
I can confidently say I’m pleased that I just bought an IS500 sight unseen today. It’s a dinosaur in comparison to every other car in its class. What can I say, I’m an old man who wants to hear a V8.
Can’t blame ya. V8’s are awesome 😎
One day it'll go up in price. It's a given! 😄
Man gratz to u man i wanna say in 40 years when im in my 60s i will do something similiar. But im in my early 20s and that would be a bad financial idea.
Do yourself a favor and put a cat-back exhaust on it. The stock exhaust is sooo restrictive.
Congratulations to you man but is500 is slower than any car in its class which is the c63. M3. RS4. Alfa Romeo Guilia. It’s not a dinosaur for any of this car. Even the entry level Audi beats an LFA in a 1/4 race 😂
4:35 - Hagerty is next level with the production… they captured his reflection on the Supra for the slow-mo 🤯
i really want to know how they do those, do they do a drive by with the cars while they're barely coasting in neutral or how??
Because the car is only idling in gear, this is the easiest solution but it looks perfect
@@hunterrrdrives true, its really really good. Editors and camera guys are doing a great job
@@yoMXTT yes snd add effects like dust and gravel. I love it!
they just put the car in drive and let it roll by lmao. it is a very cool effect though and a very simple solution
Ok im sorry i love modern cars and 0-60 times, but the sound of that 2JZ beating off the limiter legit gave me goosebumps and brought real tears to my eyes! Absolutely beautiful
Same here!
Yes🔥👑
💯
No 2jz sucks mopar is better nothing better than classic muscle and modern muscle dodge, jeep
Damn I nearly thought i was alone🔥😅
Whoever is in charge of the effects and editing should get a raise because it’s gets better and better all the time
I don’t really care for drag races, but man, this is not just a drag race. This is Jason Cammisa, this is automotive video brilliance, this is a story, intelligent insights and crazy edited. Love it!
You don't love those by carwow
Imagine if that M4 gets 3rd party tuning
That M4 is a monster comparing to its factory setting
Pure monster
Jst imagine a G powered M4.. Tht Supra along with it's fankids would have been cryin' so bad💀
have you seen what those m4's are running now? ridiculous
This same supra on a roll race will pull a semi on this stock m4 I get it it's not a legit qtr mile but hey that's where it shines lol
@@verysly they love to forget about that part 😂
As they say: "It's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast." Lots of great examples of gearing, power curves, all that stuff. Great vid.
underrated quote
It doesn't matter how fast a 30 year old car can go, when the lap time is slower than an alfa romeo 4c.
Here's why the m240i won and the supra was behind. All wheel drive. Sometimes the extra weight of the m240i doesn't matter when all wheel drive gets it off the line perfectly and the horsepower keeps it going hard. The supra was catching up to it quick it would have passed it if the distance was longer. The 400lb difference didn't make a difference in the quarter mile. If the supra had awd it would do 0-60 in 3.4 and 1/4 mile faster than m240i
You give me a video with Jason in it and I’ll instantly watch the whole thing. He’s a top tier automotive goldmine.
Aside from Jason and Randy in the same video, the effects and production quality of this series is premium. The edit team are true masters at the craft! Amazing content!
This video was even better than anticipated. Most drag race videos are filled with senseless rambling and a small bit of action. Not Hagerty... You guys are killing the game! Thoroughly enjoyable to watch from start to finish, your videos are not only entertaining and informative but also thought and emotion-provoking. Your videos help display what being a car guy is all about and I can't get enough of it!
Consider the commitment to reliability Toyota has
Everyone knows toyota wouldn't take bmw's stuff unless they validated that the b58 is reliable enough, that's why the supra has a b58. Toyota kept sending parts back to bmw because they didn't pass toyota's testing.
@@hench_wrench_repairs that was a myth
@@Big_AlMC nope this officially happened at least 3 times
@@Big_AlMC it was not.
What a conspiracy theory. The b58 was existing before the Supra and therefore the manufacturing process was already set up. BMW indeed improved the engine with the years, but the first iteration was already a beast. Part of the reason is that they cut costs by sharing parts between diesel and gasoline engines and therefore have them set up for higher forces. Nonetheless already the predecessors of the b58 have been very good and have great tuning potential. Another thing is that the the engineers already had the s58 in mind which is used nearly unchanged in gt racing cars. Toyota has nothing to do with it. They are lucky to find a manufacturer that builds stuff like that and was willing to build a car in this segment, because they also wanted to have a new z4.
You know the s58 is gonna be a future classic when you got tuners already deep into the 9s from just fueling mods and a good tire 👍
It’s that easy to make power with them?
@@team3gaming749 bro, it's not easy, that would be an insult, the s58 makes 750hp with fueling mods and downpipes.
@@omnihein9322 literally no fueling mods needed, just a downpipe and you're at 700hp on pump gas, on an ethanl blend they hit 800hp. 9.6 quarter mile with a simple downpipe.... crazyyyy
@@iKrakenOfficial I mean, I would skip the fuelling mods all together tbh, Red bull drift brothers made 1040hp on pump gas with only upgraded turbos, port injection, and some light modifications to the head geometry.
Can't wait for my m3 xdrive to arrive, though I'll wait for the warranty to end before I do any mods and I won't be doing anything too crazy.
@@omnihein9322 u sure? I’ve seen some hit very very high numbers off simple things that he said.
I love the sound editing during the Supra/M4 drag race. The engine sounds crescendo at the perfect moment.
This is insane level of film making. Those slow mo shots were unbelievable. Kudos to the team.
This channel has the finest editing. Never thought any TH-cam channel could deliever this.
I'd still take the IS500. I need the four doors and V8 and intake music. 👍
Cammisa does it again: Mixing automotive history with the contemporary.
As a multi supra and BMW owner, this is an awesome video! Never change Jason, you are amazing. God 2JZs just sound like pure bliss
He!! yeah bro, I have multiples of each in my video game garage too 💪
Probably one of the best car review and presentation I have ever seen on TH-cam. Utterly brilliant well done to everyone who contributed to making this video hats off
That 1st minute just fly by without even notice. That is how good each of the scene was planned and made!
Check out what Cammisa does at 2:22.
This series is INSANE!!! those is500 will be rare with time just like the ISF 😍
Every single time I'm thinking, "I'm definitely watching this again." And I do, and it delivers without fail. Sick as always.
One of the best races I’ve seen on TH-cam!! 😮💨
B58 gang !!! 💪
The Legendary Toyota Supraa🔥
8:02 Randy's infamous victory cackle never gets old!
this is a sterling video. short, sharp, well written, and gorgeous to look at. well done chaps.
I can’t help but to notice you call the gearbox an “8-speed ZED F” but the engine a “2J ZEE”
If we're gonna pick on Jason's pronunciation, I'd like to include "coop".....drives me mad 😂😂
ZF is german company, making "Z" be zet or zed.
ZEE comes from japanese zetto for "Z".
@@Druze_Tito wouldn't zetto translate into "zet" as well?
Americans shouldn’t say zed.
I never understood the difference in pronunciation. Zee vs Zed. Its Bee right...not Bed? Cee not Ced...just dumb to me
Every time they allude to an electric future in videos like these, I always get hit in the feels. It never fails lol. I'll keep my ICE til I die.
Spectacular production quality, as always. Big up Jason!
this is so cheesy..
ICE vehicles will be relegated to aging enthusiasts’ toy collections while BEVs will beat them in every performance category.
@@ZephyrCorsa how? Lol
Ok boomer
Looking at these videos, they give EV's too much credit for killing off the interesting car. Just look at nearly all BMW's and porkers from the past decade, then look at the Supra.
Absolute best car video production on TH-cam. Jason snd Randy the dynamic duo as well.
Man this nearly brought a tear to my eye, what a beautiful piece of art. I'm about to watch a few more times🥺brilliant cars + brilliant production = something that should be considered a masterpiece 🏆👏👏👏
Love the work Jason has been putting out he really needs his own tv show
After watching such quality content, other channels seem boring to me.
😄
C'mon now this is great, but throttle house does an excellent job as well! Humor mixed in is pretty entertaining imo!
@@germanengineering204 Agree 100%! 👍
This is another kind of TH-cam Channel, the quality here is in another level, Hagerty and Jason this is pure gold, congratulations! PD: More videos please!
This production is CRAZY
I watch these vids simply because Jason is fantastic! He has the magic that very few do (Clarkson, Hammond, May) then you sprinkle in a little Randy and you realize you really have something special here. Focus on this formula and watch things thrive! Review old stuff when theres nothing new, possibilities are endless!
Respect to the audio engineer on this one. Hard to capture something like a 2JZ without the audio clipping like crazy.
The cinematography in your videos is absolutely incredible, the style you bring is very unique 🙌🏼 Keep it up guys!
Hagerty yet again with a masterpiece of a video.
On a side note what I love the most about this channel is that it delivers on what gear heads want to hear and see with no extra silly stuff or boring content. Hagerty delivers! :)
There is a passenger in the Supra during the race on 3 way B58 that gives it a big disadvantage not enough weight difference to catch up to AWD Xdrive BMW.
this is simply the best drag race ive seen on youtube, everything is just insane, well done to everyone involved in this. Hope we will have it with amg's too
3:07 That moment you realize that all three of these cars are technically siblings.
Yea I think that was the whole point of the comparison...
eh Supra is on the strictly two door Z4 platform. The 2 and 3 are much more similar to each other since 2 is just a chopped wheelbase 3 but still has back seats
@@papa_pt not really it's still the same CLAR platform. BMW has never been the best at building dedicated sportscars since they always just rework existing ( usually 3-series ) platforms. Hence why the BMW Z4 weigh a lot for what was supposed to be a "dedicated sportscar".
BMW is at their best when building practical fast saloons.
Side note : exception could be the Z8. I'm not saying it's bespoke, I just haven't checked.
@@thatcopenguy if you're going off CLAR you could call the Supra and X6 siblings too. It's actually pretty good on weight what other modern sports car (minus Porsche) around that PRICE w/ at least a 6 cyl weighs 3400lbs in the US?
@@thatcopenguy yep this is true..
Whoever is producing this just needs to know they are making some of the best car content online
The old supra 1993 still having the same charm 🔥 🔥 🔥
this quality of everything, audio, video... everything. is incredible. my head explodes
Just discovered this channel. I'm so addicted to the quality of production!
This is an ultimate content just like the b58 and s58 are ultimate tuning engines!
Great vid man, this race isn't ideal for the supra but high power rwd manual brought the biggest smile which is where a lot of newer cars fall short, they've been made to be fast with most average drivers where as it takes a lot more to handle something like the supra
What most people don't know is that the M240i has the same software throttle mapping as the M5 CS. The M340i and Supra do not, as you can tell in this video. And...of course BMW wouldn't give Toyota all it's goodies even though I love the new Supra. Great video, love that 2JZ!
its more likely Toyota did their own tune and nerfed it themselves.
The production quality is out of this world!🔥Watching from Kenya.
Man the sound of the 2JZ is just classic. No B58 or other BMW engine (modded or not) can match the sweet sound of a nice single turbo 2JZ.
100%
Pfff... S50/S54
M88 engines think otherwise.
Those engines make the sweetest noise and are super high revving from the factory.
@@KillswitchRobie828 Those engines are not reliable or bulletproof like the legendary 2JZ. Outside of hardcore bmw fans nobody lusts after the S50/S54 M88 like the 2JZ.
The 2JZ is modified. And B58s have already been making over 1000HP on Stock Block!
Can we all agree the Bimmer i6 is also underrated from the factory. I've seen references to it actually making 420+ HP.
Totally agree with you i think they downsize horsepower figures
Mind-blowing production quality and amazing drag race 🔥🔥
"Enjoy it now". Because we all know what's coming next. That's why I love this guy 😁
Editing quality is on next level 🔥
The production quality keeps getting better and better! But that was evident from episode 1.
The secret sauce is that this doesn't feel like the typical car reviews or comparisons where the hosts just read numbers and feign scripted emotions. Jason is having mad fun, and it shows in every segment.
Also, great to have Randy on the show. Always loved him on Motor Trend.
It's hard to beat the excitement and fun of a V8...but damn I sure do love a good straight 6
Speed is everything, bmw dumped I6 and put I4 in e30 m3 just to be lighter=faster and easier to get high revs
@@R_o_b_e_r_t
Speed isn't everything. There's more to be excited about, it's not just about straight line acceleration...
@@yousef.al-assaf and they were better in corners too because they were lighter, I forgot to mention that
@@yousef.al-assaf and speed is everything, because if you can take corner at higher speed means you are better overall
@@R_o_b_e_r_t
You said speed as if you meant straight line performance. Yes, M340i has better cornering but the IS500 has a better steering feedback. The front of the Lexus communicates better with the driver, however the BMW has better grip and better exiting speed thanks to its AWD.
At the end of the day I chose the IS500 over its German competitors because it actually has a soul and a character, unlike the others that felt dull because of all the electronics taking over the car control.
Drive both around the track and you will understand what I mean.
THIS is what 2JZGTE engines do best! They reel in their opponent’s, catching in the top-end, 2nd half of the race. Once you get past 3rd gear, it hooks and all that power is no match for most of the competition.
2JZGTE for life! 👊😎
with some tech its not like one can't do traction control which was really needed in that scenario
The quality of this video alone, was enough to make me subscribe, at a point I was lost, I wasn't even focused on the cars anymore but the excellent movie scenes
The cars are amazing, but lets all agree the editing team is on another level makes me feel like I'm watching a movie
As a life long gearhead that does auto X, track days, works lives, and breathes cars, I honestly think cars today are too damn fast. You can't use this power other than at a race track
Depends on what cars in this group were talking about! Many of these cars are right in the sweet spot for me!👍
Unless you live in germany
@@donaicm5254 Why Germany honestly? I have the M240i, and yeah it's fast as hell, but I use it all here and there!😄
@@donaicm5254 Living in beautiful Maine in the Great USA!
@@germanengineering204 Autobahn. Some parts have no speed limits, so technically speeds over 200 mph are legal (if you don't endanger anyone).
Great Video! But to make a comparison with a drag built MK4 and the M4, this should of been done on a prepped track. You can have all the power in the world, if you can't put it down then a lot of other cars will definitely make you look slow. I bet the MK4 would of hooked a lot faster, making the numbers less at the finish line.
Should be running 8's on prep
I think this is a point that a lot of people miss. It’s obvious that you need a prepped track to make a drag car work, but 90% of people don’t get that (believe me you’d be surprised). This needed to be done for them to see.
the car was likely setup for preped surface aswell meaning that if it has boost by gear/ speed it was way over what it should be aiming at, launching with anti lag on also didn't help as it should be making enough power without it.
Fun video; those BMW engines are no joke. Having never driven any of them, I'm curious as to how the driving experience is beyond the engine though? I've heard a number of critics say that BMWs no longer have the driving dynamics they once did.
Critics are mainly on the numb steering feel. BMW still has the better driving dynamics than it’s competitors including IS500.
I have the new M3 6 speed. It is by far the most insane vehicle you can buy for under 80k. It does not want to lose grip, it just hooks and goes
People who criticize BMW driving dynamics are not saying that they're bad, because the M cars are always perfectly balanced with a lot of touch. Mainly the complaints come from old school BMW fans, the ones who fell in love with the e30s or e46s, those cars were powerful and veery LIGHT. Nowadays, even the M2s which are the closest modern beamer to those old ones I mentioned, still weight around 1700kg, which is not close to light at all
From what I heard, these new BMWs are so efficient they are void of any excitement. If you're looking for something fun, you may want to look elsewhere.
@@cougarcon2172 wrong I got both
I will never stop driving, thanks to you guys.
I know it's a dumb camera and editing trick but that race pause gets me EVRRY TIME magic isn't real be damned, I love it.
The production on these little vids is insane! 👏🏻
Randy is one of the all time greats!
Such is the progress indeed. Stock factory warrantied engines with stock drive trains absolutely blitzing the straight line. Although, the crazy turbo bov on that Supra is really nostalgic. 😉👏🏻
Keep them coming everyone! Always look forward to these vids. 👏🏻
This is awesome it would’ve been cool too see a single turbo n54 car in this competition as well
I thought the n54 is twin and the n55 is single turbo? Do u mean a custom n54?
@@markleckband4495 what kind of a question is that
@@markleckband4495 he's asking about a modified N54. Although I don't think there's a reason to other than hanging out with the MK4 Supra (being the only modified car here).
From a rolling race the Supra would beat the M240i. xDrive always wins in drag races, especially pretty short ones.
Anyway, insane production quality! Love these!
It doesn't matter they are both BMWs anyway!
@@joebloggs4191 true
It would be even. They all have identical trap speeds.
@@onlystockcars3769 There has been lot of races done. Supra walks the m240i on roll you can search if you want. This is one video and one run but it's a fact that Supra is noticeably faster on a roll race.
You can clearly see the Supra had a slower start and then kept on pulling on 340i and catching up slowly to m240i so the trap speed doesn't look right. It's going at least 2 mph faster than 340i clearly the way it's pulling on it.
Man o man! The content quality is, dare I say, unmatched!!
not a single second wasted, such is the production quality of HAGERTY ❤🙌🏼
“With 3 times the horsepower you would have thought the Supra would have annihilated the M4.”
No one in their right mind with even a shred of car knowledge is going to think a 25 year old 1200hp rwd manual transmission Supra is going to annihilate a new awd M4 in the 1/4 mile from a dig 😂.
.....have you seen drag races with modified cars from the 60s and 70s doing sub 9 second 1/4s
kids, and adults who still beliefs in fnf family power do
@@DQ333 What difference does it make if I have or haven’t?
Most jdm fangirls do think that tho
If the race was done on a prepped surface track the results would have been alot different coz the supra would have had more traction but this was done on a normal surface and clearly anyone who knows about rwd cars with 1000+hp manual knows it's not going to be easy beating a AWD computer shifting car in a quarter mile still you can see once the supra Mk4 got traction it started reeling that m4 in as if it was not even floored none other then less all of these cars are Damm good in there own different ways and like Jason said enjoy them while you can coz soon there will be no 2UR-GSE V8,2JZ-GTE sound no B58 or S58 which will be a shame for the car enthusiasts
Don't worry son, your DAD is still alive ❤ MK4
Kid, Supra is Modified.
As Usual, Absolute Fire, Love From India 💯
They do have an oddly competitive yet synergistic relationship. Almost a similar history too.
Man, I binged maybe half of your videos on TH-cam over the last week and I gotta say I love the quality you guys put into it. I wish I could do the same for my gaming content
I would pay $50 for a ride along in that supra 🥰
only 50!?!!?!!?!?
@@Lachlan2006 that's my cap.for any car
@@fr33_candy Good cap 😀
@@reallybigbiscuit3568 that's half a tank of gas for 5 minutes 😂
Today's world's greatest 6 cylinder is not made by BMWs, rather they're made by Porsches.
The fact that the m4 is almost in the 10's stock is insane. What is bmw doing.
Hiding the real numbers, insanely fast transmission and AWD lol. But you know the supra owner is having more fun with that 6 speed and MASSIVE turbo
@@tunanocrust2642 they just childish
I think the Supra is slower because of the close ratios. I think it’s because of the great torque not being used properly. Sometimes close gear ratios are not best, it can even cause the car to have to spin the tires more or activate traction control more etc, just my theory. I would like to see them with the same ratios and then race
The production quality is through the roof. Would love to be part of the team.
Thank you for this amazing content, I love it
Every single minute of this video worth watching ❤️
Sir, it’s only 9 minutes total
@@James-po2sv ok "every single minute of nine minutes"!!!
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Sure! Is a better way to counter this foreseen inflation, because all this wars everywhere are politics.
Living in one's "comfort zone" is a contributing cause to the plight of young people.
Fear is a total failure when you give up Ambitiousness; and Success is a game of dice, you throw your $coin while your investment decides your goal.
@@samiraabubakar2963 they said when you invest little money you earn big,
Can't even imagine how it is possible
I think everyone hating the new Supra is awesome. What’s happening right now is quite literally the exact same story to happen to the Mk4. Toyota makes a sports car, people complain about it, no one buys it, then people realise that it has the world’s best straight 6. Only this time, people are slowly realising that.
Mejor motor de 6 Cilindros en Línea del mundo?
Cuz Supra fans are lil kid
Some things not pointed out... The sound guys were on point here. They did a great job at capturing the rich notes of each car
Did you say that supra had a 3.0L? The engine cover seems to suggest it was increased to 3.2L
Yes for stock 2JZ, this one ain't even close to stock, they bored it out for more torque!
@@JohnWiku Ya I'd be willing to bet there isn't many stock parts if any left in that 2J.
@@jaxoneering5469 One wouldn't expect a nearly 30 year old platform with 4-5X the original power, to have many stock parts...
@@I_dont_read_responses Still not stock!
@@dewarkhodern9990 Go cry to your momma.
يمكن أن تكون سرعة النقلات في تويوتا سوبرا أبطء بواسطة السوفت وير
the best CAR PRODUCTION! the picture quality! the sound quality! just amazing
I still can't believe this is free content i can just watch on youtube... insane!
I feel like Toyota made a lot of improvements to the BMW B58
Why
they didn't make any improvements at all.
I feel like you should give more credit to BMW for the fantastic car that the Supra is.
They definitely did. The reason why I ;9!5 believe the conspiracy theory that Jason made is that the GR Supra actually makes more power than the BMW cars if you were to put them on the dyno. And Toyota has done some work on these cars for sure.
@@nf1369 the Supra was slower than it should’ve been why would that mean it has more power than claimed? Did you watch the same video?