Looks good, perfect for what you are looking for. The great thing with the Lonchin engine is that even if you did have a very unlikely catastrophic failure you can buy a whole engine for around £400 lol… I love my GPX 250 2 Smoke…
glad you saw fit to get this one out Robbo - very interested in this little bike, i am interested in at as a companion to my 500 exc that i am putting mad miles on - some would say too many as i have done 10k this last 20 months, this if it came to me would be used for the days when i need to ride to wales (60miles) and do a 120 miler or similar on the lanes and ride home (60 miles), so what is it like at 65mph etc are all things i want to know along with how it feels power wise, shame that when i contacted gpx about their test days they said you get about 7 minutes ..... that is an impossible evaluation for someone like me who rides enduro and lanes several times a week, hopefully you get this out on decent rides not just little enduro loops or tong etc - i imagine based on specs it will be perfect at any hare n hounds etc, weight is good and poewr is ok but i imagine torque is the better measure for this engine - also what do they say is oil change intervals? has to be long based on the xr engine, surely we are talking 3-4k oil changes?
@@ogasi1798 A lot to take in there but I’ll try look at the areas you are interested in. Like you I have a big KTM so it’s nice good to keep the miles down on something less maintainable. I’ll comeback to you 👍🏻
@@RobboRobinson thanks bud - sorry for the blabber, just looks like you will be the fountain of info for me as a potential buyer, like i say to help my 500 live an easier life ,, i know this won't be a rocket like our EXC but that isn't why i like the idea of it and i bet you are thinking the same based on your words so far
@RobboRobinson sorry, I thought that when I wrote the comment. I've got the GPX 450FSE. Fueling off and on can be a bit jerky so you need a lot of clutch. The strange thing is that it changes throughout the ride, sometimes it goes smooth. Not sure why.
@@OrangeManStan The 450 KTM. Not had an issue with throttle response. Current gearing 14-48 and always in map 2 with TC on. Very few flame outs and I ride it in some technical stuff at times.
Looks very tempting for a trail bike. May even be the perfect 12/24hr D2D bike On a different note, I don't know if you know already but if you upload at 1440p or higher, yt encodes the video differently and you won't get that mushy video artifact every 5 seconds or so when you're in motion.
First impressions count and it lovely to ride. Still early days I'll get to know it better when I start pushing it a little on some climbs and long days out. It's a nice low maintenance package though. I'll have look into the 1440p upload cheers.👍
Afternoon, Just a quick question to anyone really with some real world experience regarding the GPX 250 2T, I am looking for a bike for general trail riding along with some harder sections of the TET with some road ability for the bits in between, I live miles away from any enduro events so will not be racing. I currently do a ton of trail riding on a GS but I am just getting too old for the weight when it does go wrong. With the 2t having basically the same engine as the old DT230 Lanza (from what in understand?) which was a competitor to the CRM250 could I compare the GPX to these style of bikes regarding engine characteristics (Pending gearing changes etc) ?. Did they change the compression ratio from the DT or is it a like for like?. I know the easy option would be to get a older DRZ400 or a CRF300 but honestly I get the feeling that I may not have the option to get a road going 2 stroke for much longer the way net zero is creeping in . Have a safe one..
Does it have to be a 2 stroke? The TSE 250r is a good bike and I should know having put 240hrs on one and its still going strong. If you are going to be riding TET inc road sections a 4T would be better. No premix to think about. The new GPX FSE250e might be better suited as It is a little lighter and low maintenance air cooled engine with E start and fuel injection. 113kg out of the crate. I have just got one and I think it's the better bike.
I have a plated 300 2stroke that I use for dualsport, it came from the factory road legal pre wired for turn signals, horn etc. The 2stroke is demonstrably better off road than any factory dualsport I have owned but it is also equally poor on road as high performance 2strokes do not like to "cruise". I absolutely agree that the window for plated 2strokes is closing but this may be not the best choice for TAT type riding. As the op mentioned a small 4stroke like the GPX is great in these endeavors. I also have a Templar X which is quite similar to the bike tested here albeit with some lower spec parts (and the price to reflect) that works surprisingly well and will be seeing plenty of BDR routes in the American northeast.
@@Michael-s1b Thanks for the reply, I guess what I am doing is gauging if the GPX 2T is more a kin to the CRM/DT with similar power delivery and usability than say a KTM. I have known of people traveling all over Asia on CRM 250s back in the day, and the DT230 is a solid dual sport from what I can find. On paper it looks like the GPX is the best of both worlds in that it has a more road based DT230 Lanza engine all be it made under licence with the suspension of a KTM although I could be very wrong as I have not ridden one and it could be peaky and hates being held on a constant throttle. I know the 4t would do everything I need it too but I have been riding something like 25 years, I have owned DRZ;s and XR's and I just want something that I am excited to get out on, I have toyed with the idea of getting a CRM 250 AR but I live just on the edge of an emission tax zone and would be paying a hefty fee every time it rolled out of my road.
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Looks good, perfect for what you are looking for. The great thing with the Lonchin engine is that even if you did have a very unlikely catastrophic failure you can buy a whole engine for around £400 lol… I love my GPX 250 2 Smoke…
glad you saw fit to get this one out Robbo - very interested in this little bike, i am interested in at as a companion to my 500 exc that i am putting mad miles on - some would say too many as i have done 10k this last 20 months, this if it came to me would be used for the days when i need to ride to wales (60miles) and do a 120 miler or similar on the lanes and ride home (60 miles), so what is it like at 65mph etc are all things i want to know along with how it feels power wise, shame that when i contacted gpx about their test days they said you get about 7 minutes ..... that is an impossible evaluation for someone like me who rides enduro and lanes several times a week, hopefully you get this out on decent rides not just little enduro loops or tong etc - i imagine based on specs it will be perfect at any hare n hounds etc, weight is good and poewr is ok but i imagine torque is the better measure for this engine - also what do they say is oil change intervals? has to be long based on the xr engine, surely we are talking 3-4k oil changes?
@@ogasi1798 A lot to take in there but I’ll try look at the areas you are interested in. Like you I have a big KTM so it’s nice good to keep the miles down on something less maintainable.
I’ll comeback to you 👍🏻
@@RobboRobinson thanks bud - sorry for the blabber, just looks like you will be the fountain of info for me as a potential buyer, like i say to help my 500 live an easier life ,, i know this won't be a rocket like our EXC but that isn't why i like the idea of it and i bet you are thinking the same based on your words so far
Great video Robbo, love to see some more videos on the 450. Im interested to known if you've smoothed the on off throttle response in low gears.
450 KTM I have?
@RobboRobinson sorry, I thought that when I wrote the comment. I've got the GPX 450FSE. Fueling off and on can be a bit jerky so you need a lot of clutch. The strange thing is that it changes throughout the ride, sometimes it goes smooth. Not sure why.
@@OrangeManStan The 450 KTM. Not had an issue with throttle response. Current gearing 14-48 and always in map 2 with TC on. Very few flame outs and I ride it in some technical stuff at times.
@@OrangeManStan I’ve not ridden the GPX 450. I believe there are some different maps available now. This 250e is super smooth.
Looks very tempting for a trail bike. May even be the perfect 12/24hr D2D bike
On a different note, I don't know if you know already but if you upload at 1440p or higher, yt encodes the video differently and you won't get that mushy video artifact every 5 seconds or so when you're in motion.
First impressions count and it lovely to ride. Still early days I'll get to know it better when I start pushing it a little on some climbs and long days out. It's a nice low maintenance package though. I'll have look into the 1440p upload cheers.👍
Afternoon, Just a quick question to anyone really with some real world experience regarding the GPX 250 2T, I am looking for a bike for general trail riding along with some harder sections of the TET with some road ability for the bits in between, I live miles away from any enduro events so will not be racing. I currently do a ton of trail riding on a GS but I am just getting too old for the weight when it does go wrong. With the 2t having basically the same engine as the old DT230 Lanza (from what in understand?) which was a competitor to the CRM250 could I compare the GPX to these style of bikes regarding engine characteristics (Pending gearing changes etc) ?.
Did they change the compression ratio from the DT or is it a like for like?.
I know the easy option would be to get a older DRZ400 or a CRF300 but honestly I get the feeling that I may not have the option to get a road going 2 stroke for much longer the way net zero is creeping in .
Have a safe one..
Does it have to be a 2 stroke? The TSE 250r is a good bike and I should know having put 240hrs on one and its still going strong. If you are going to be riding TET inc road sections a 4T would be better. No premix to think about. The new GPX FSE250e might be better suited as It is a little lighter and low maintenance air cooled engine with E start and fuel injection. 113kg out of the crate. I have just got one and I think it's the better bike.
I have a plated 300 2stroke that I use for dualsport, it came from the factory road legal pre wired for turn signals, horn etc. The 2stroke is demonstrably better off road than any factory dualsport I have owned but it is also equally poor on road as high performance 2strokes do not like to "cruise". I absolutely agree that the window for plated 2strokes is closing but this may be not the best choice for TAT type riding. As the op mentioned a small 4stroke like the GPX is great in these endeavors. I also have a Templar X which is quite similar to the bike tested here albeit with some lower spec parts (and the price to reflect) that works surprisingly well and will be seeing plenty of BDR routes in the American northeast.
@@Michael-s1b Thanks for the reply, I guess what I am doing is gauging if the GPX 2T is more a kin to the CRM/DT with similar power delivery and usability than say a KTM. I have known of people traveling all over Asia on CRM 250s back in the day, and the DT230 is a solid dual sport from what I can find. On paper it looks like the GPX is the best of both worlds in that it has a more road based DT230 Lanza engine all be it made under licence with the suspension of a KTM although I could be very wrong as I have not ridden one and it could be peaky and hates being held on a constant throttle.
I know the 4t would do everything I need it too but I have been riding something like 25 years, I have owned DRZ;s and XR's and I just want something that I am excited to get out on, I have toyed with the idea of getting a CRM 250 AR but I live just on the edge of an emission tax zone and would be paying a hefty fee every time it rolled out of my road.
Radiator shrouds and grilles with no radiators inside is a bit weird 😂
@@robocombo strangely it doesn’t bother me. Other GPX air cooled bikes have been like this for years. The plastics are surprisingly sturdy.
I think this is a real sleeper bike...people overlook these types of bikes, but this is a hell of a bike for the price.
@@Dirt_Bike_Dave sure is a sweet package for the money bud. 👍🏻