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I have been riding bikes for a while I started off on a 70 then a 125 then I needed more power so the 250 but I might look at the enduro 350s with smoother power curve
Saw this video directly after purchasing a yz250f for my first bike to ride on trails lol ...if for some reason you dont beleive this guy take it from me, a guy with 2 hours of experience. Its like the bike is a sleeping lion and your job is to sit on it and poke it with a stick.
Great recommendations. Another thing to consider for new trail riders is that you will never regret owning a sleepier, smaller trail bike even after you get enough experience to enjoy rather than just survive a fast bike. Any air cooled 250 is soo much less exhausting to ride, even with experience. Also if you can afford to own and store multiple bikes, the old beginner bike is perfect to keep for introducing newer riders down the road. I have a 450xc that i love, but i cant in good faith let friends who are new to riding hop on it because its tall, one sneeze or whiskey throttle from looping into a tree, stalls very easy, and overheats if you ride it slow. Meanwhile the old air cooled 250 is approachable enough for people to learn on, still plenty fun, and i can ride it when i'm sore, tired, or dont feel like wearing ear plugs. I prefer riding a fast bike fast than a slow bike fast but riding a fast bike slow is just punishment. I also have a few intermediate friends who ride race bikes that instantly ride noticeably smoother and faster when they borrow the beginner bike.
I recently bought a KLX150, first thing I did is change the front tyre from a 2.75-21to a 80/90-21, that extra width took away that skittish feeling in the front end, also changed rear sprocket from 52 to a 47, great little bike now.
I started out on a klx230r and after 3 years I ran into a great deal on a '02 crf450r that needed a little work. Its been 4 months on the 450r and after some trail riding mods this thing is amazing! WAYYY more power and I can finally ride in the sand uphill lol
I’m 72 years old, 5’ 5” with a 26” inseam, when seated, both of my feet are 8-10” off the ground. I weigh 125 pounds. I’m really happy with my ‘06 Husaberg 650. I ride on tight forest trails in the Cascades, sand dunes, and ride regularly in Baja, having raced SCORE events 3 times. The bike will plonk along at a walking pace and with the 6 speed gearbox it will do 115 on the dry lake beds. You might have mentioned that you were recommending bikes for rank beginners. The bike is so mellow and has so much torque a kid can ride it at slow speeds and yet has enough power to snap the front wheel off the ground in 4th gear if you desire. It’s been the perfect bike for me. Reliable, friendly, and as powerful as a range bull.
Not a 4 stroke but I've had my eye on the Beta 200 since it was announced a few years ago. Add fuel injection and I think it could be my favorite 2 stroke trail bike.
Depends a lot on the terrain that you’re riding, in the part of Australia I live you would run out of legs quick on a 250, it’s all big open sandy and gravel tracks where a modern 450 with good suspension shines
You are correct in that it does depend on the terrain. I believe that the rider makes the biggest difference as far as the type of trail bike (beginner vs enduro, for example). Thanks for watching!
Stumbled on your channel today and you give lots of good info.I have ridden dirt bikes my whole life and most of bigger MX bikes are to much for me. I got a YZ250 2 stroke a few years ago for a woods bike and had to sell it.Way to much power and just hard to ride it all day.Great bike just crazy power.I also had a KDX200 2 stroke, these are still around and have great suspension and smooth power.
Ah, thanks for watching! Yeah, MX bikes are lots of fun out in the open, but I'm a big supporter of "slower" trail bikes if you're riding in tight woods, especially to beginners and older riders because you're less likely to crash from an accidental "whiskey throttle".
i recently got myself a brand new 2022 klx 300r. last i time i rode a 2 wheeler i was a kid on a ttr 90 and honda ct 70 so i'm 100% a beginner. after changing the pegs i had my first ride with the klx last week and it went amazing, i had the time of my life. the bike while not being tuned for racing is still powerful and fast it scared me a few times. if you're a beginner take it easy with these bikes they got alot of power. remember you're not racing anyone or anything, you're enjoying the trails.
Rode my 04 KTM 450MXC on some technical lower speed trails as well as some decent hill climbs! Had alot of fun and rode 2.5 hours but I realized quickly that it was NOT the right bike for where I was riding 😅 alot of clutch work as well as revving up at slower speeds so I didn't bog it out. One section I carried too much speed into a turn and a little tree kinda cut off the turn and I clipped it with my handlebar haha! I dumped it, but not hard...Luckily I was wearing my boots because the middle of my boot was in between the peg and the tree, so that's definitely gonna be sore for about a week 🥲 I enjoyed testing my skills in the woods though. 90% of the time I was only able to go in 1st gear, but a few straight-aways enabled me to give it some sauce in 2nd gear 😌 Can't wait to get out and ride again though! Hopefully I'll be able to hit some wider and longer flowing areas so I can let her scream like she wants to though!
Haven’t ridden bike for 20+ years . Bought a ktm520 exc for dirt and a cbr1100xx for race/drag. I don’t fuck around . The Learning curve is very steep and the speed of both is insane but I think if you can keep the ego down and be careful it’s def doable to start on a big bike but man you better be careful . My philosophy is don’t go faster than your willing to crash on anything except perfect trail or bitumen . I have spent ages out just practising low speed turns , emergency stops , tiny wheelies ( still no good) , drag launches etc to just build the skills base and the learning will take a looong time to be any good.
What year? Just curious because all the trail bikes are expensive and I would like to buy a Yamaha yz250f for a trail bike or a crf250r and a rmz250 I’m curious if you have any problems with it or if the power is too much
Race bike has all different suspension. Different gear ratio, different power band, no kickstand, no light, no way to really plate the bike for connecting trails either.
@@wayfaringoverlander race bike transmission is fine just put a different sprocket to increase the top speed, suspension is fine although a little stiffer than would be optimal however you are way better of and can do way more hill climes and single track alot faster than a 230f and it is not worth spending an extra 1000$-2000$ more to get the 250x used (it's alot harder to find and more desirable driving the price up used)
@@wayfaringoverlander power band is not a big thing on 4 strokes doesn't matter for trail riding unless you are pro, kick stand is a sub 100$ mod, don't need a light for trail riding and again could add one if needed sub 100$ unless you are a pro racing in Enduro races the suspension is fine. Only negative is reliability compared to a CRF 230f but the performance is far superior on a 250R 20 hp and 250lbs vs the 38 hp and 231lbs on the CRF250r
@@walkerphillips2397 I wouldn’t compare a 230F to a 250 R… a 250x is for trail riding 250 R and I would side by side compare the two of those. I hear what you’re saying, and my argument is that a 250 R is not a good trial bike but a great race bike. It’s just not set up for trails. Me personally I street legal my RX to connect trails, and put a desert tank for long distance
Im a new rider i am also 5.7 could not decide on what size bike but i ended up getting a good deal on a 2022 kayo k2 230. It has done great i changed out the fron 13t to a 12t and getting ready to tune the carb. I have beat that bike up so far so good reliable and have not broken plastics yet but its been tossed around. Of course im not a bike snob and wanted something cheap to get started. I think its a great bike for a beginner as a beginner. It doesn't matter what bike you have they all have some kind of issue that is documented. But once i get good enough skills i will be looking at something nicer. Good luck everyone who is starting and do not give up it will click eventually.
I'm 6'3" 295 lbs. The WR250R is the perfect bike for tall riders with more than enough power. It has a tall seat hight (and can be made taller with a taller seat and lowered pegs), fuel injected, it weights about the same as me, and it has a wide ratio gear box with six gears. It likes to be rung out at high rpms. It's absolute blast on the trail! And because it's street legal, I can ride to my local trails with it. I just bought some supermoto wheels for it so that I can play more on the street. I thought I needed two bikes to do everything I wanted. In reality, all I needed was the WR250R with two wheelsets and I get to save garage space!
I know that a 13 tooth sprocket works good on a crf150r. Might have to cut a link out, which you will. But, so far after being thrown onto a 150rb after not riding for 6-7 years after a bad wreck on a crf110, the 13 has definitely come in handy in tight turns going to a fire road and other trails like Bethel. Just also you still have to feather the clutch sometimes. Also, for a 150r carbonator, you can also use a Honda Helix clone carb. The jetting just needs to be changed during summer and winter, as normal. But also helps with kickstarting. Just another thing, the hot start would be a choke. Also have to adapt and clamp hoses since the carb is backwards. When you lay over, open the throttle, which it would still be stubborn of course, just not as bad. After a long boring story, farewell:)
Started on a 03 crf250r. The first year was terrifying. Washed out on gravel and blew my knee out. Got a 2019 yz250f and I love the bike now. Is it the ideal way to learn? Probably not but it can be done
Excellent video, as usual. I'm 67 and slowing down. Just bought a 2024 KLX 300, and absolutely love it. I will be also picking up a 2025 KLX 300R in the spring. I've been riding since age 11. Started with a Honda 50 Mini Trail. Then a 1971 Yamaha Enduro. Then a 1975 Honda 125 Elsinore when I started racing. I enjoy slow trail rides and being able to use the highways when needed. I appreciate all your videos.
I agree with much of this. I do believe the WR250F isn’t overwhelmingly powerful and good for a taller newer rider. I own a KX250X and the suspension is Uber plush and with the mild map it has very smooth linear power and won’t loop out unless of course you’re trying to. :-)
Yeah, I agree that the WR250F is fairly tame and some beginners would be fine in open areas or easy trails. I just don't like recommending it to beginner trail riders because it's more aggressive than a bike like the TTR230, making it a little harder to build your confidence. BTW, that 125 XC for your son looks sweet! Nice trials bike, too :)
Thank you. That trials bike is torn down to the frame. The frame and some other parts are out for powder coat. That trials bike was Pat Smage’s practice bike from 2017.
Oh nice! Do you live in or near WI? I'm surprised the suspension is that much better than his '23 KTM. I rode a CRF250RX for a few minutes this summer and was impressed when I hit some chop and a big g-out at about 30 mph by accident.
Hey Dave, that depends on your goals and the type of riding you're doing. I've found that most beginner trail riders are SLOWER on faster bikes: th-cam.com/video/136tMxjhwF8/w-d-xo.html
I started riding back when I was 5 or 6 on a 90cc Yamaha, i moved to a ttr 125 later and now a kx250f motorcross bike. The motor cross bikes aren’t bad for trail riding sure it’s slightly unforgiving and you can’t have a inflated ego on it or it’ll punish you but I haven’t had a bad experience with MX bikes on trails
Yeah it's definitely possible. I've ridden quite a few MX/race bikes on the trails, it just depends on how motivated you are to ride a snappy/aggressive bike, especially if you're a beginner/novice. Thanks for watching!
@@MotocrossHideout with few mods (rekluse excluded, those are kinda expensive where i live, flywheel weight, replaced X CDI, softer suspension ) MX bikes can be made into manageable enduro bikes
I'm 5'9 and 180lbs. The KLX 300 is a good cheap bike for trail riding for sure. It sips gas and maintenance is minimal. If you want a bike to ride, not do oil changes and air filter cleaning, this bike is for you. The suspension sucks but as long as you don't try big jumps you will be ok. It is heavy and wears you out if you crash a lot. I suggest one for a newer rider that can get on a tall machine. I also have a KTM 350 which is hands down better in every way, but you will pay 3 times as much for it and there is a lot more maintenance. On regular trail rides, the green one wins. It's way softer and you can go all day on a tank of gas. When you are racing or on really nasty hard enduro rides, the orange bike is hard to beat. They are like having a Chevy and a Ferrari. Both will get you somewhere but KTM will be there first.
Is it possible to ride? Yes. Do I recommend it? No, because it's harder to learn on and stay in control if you've never ridden before, plus it's higher maintenance than a beginner trail bike.
It's very easy compared to some bikes and very scary compared to other bikes. Remember that the trail isn't like riding in your yard, and any of these bikes can body slam you. At 160# he's probably right. I weight 200 and it took me a while to get comfortable riding it over small obstructions and up hills.
I am 78 years old 180lbs 5 ft. 10 in. rode a ktm exc 4 stroke untill 2007 ride street now and going to get back in to riding trail again. Thinking about the new Honda CRF 250F or the new fuel injected GPX Moto FSE 250e which is a copy of the CRF 250F air cooled fuel injected engine and KTM copy frame and suspension. This bike has good reviews and support like the Honda comes from China and uses high quality components and is much lightr than the Honda. The seat height is lower on the Honda 34.8 verses 37 on the GPX which I like and what if any suspension mods will I have to do to the Honda to have it handle well on the trails and handle my weight? What do you think would be the best choice for me since at the time when I was last riding my riding skills were expierenced. Thank You.
Good question. I'd say it depends on your personal preference and needs. I haven't owned a GPX, but it may be harder to get replacement parts for unless you already have a reliable source. Build quality might be decent but probably not as durable as the Honda (the CRF250F is already proven). Do you want a power or taller seat height? I don't think weight will be a huge difference, especially since the GPX will have a higher center of gravity. Their weight spec is *dry weight w/pit fluids, so add another 15-20 lbs. As for suspension, the Honda is okay, but if you'll probably want to upgrade for a plusher ride after a while. Forks can be done cheap by sending internals to Bruce Triplett. Rear shock upgrade is going to be the most expensive. Let us know what you end up with!
Hey Luis, they're both great bikes for their intended use. The KX250X is a cross-country race bike that wants to be ridden faster - snappy power and stiffer suspension. The WR250F (depending on the year), is more of a high-performance trail bike with smoother power and slightly softer suspension, although Yamaha has made the newer ones more aggressive.
I think u forgot the honda crf450x the 2022 had a bunch of controls to tame the power or open it up had has a 6gear I would definitely not say for a beginner but Advance rider would be perfect and then he could go pro
Go dual sport. The KLX's and CFR-L's are great! The KTM is crazy good. Maybe want more aggressive tires, but at least you don't have to trailer it every time you need to go down the road a little bit. Yamaha is a bit behind on the dual sport offerings with basically the TW and XT the only offerings in that range, but both of those are good for the right rider too. And of course there is the CRF450L or Suzuki DRZ400, but those aren't really for beginners. And the 650's as well, but also not for beginners and sort of heavy and torquey for my liking. But the point is there is a dual sport for every adult rider these days that can more than handle trails. Now that all the bikes have electric start, there is no reason not to go street legal for the 10 lbs extra it puts on.
Dual sports are great if you don't want to or can't trailer a bike. While the KTM EXC-F models are fairly lightweight, I don't agree with the last statement of "there is no reason not to go street legal for the 10 lbs extra it puts on." Take the CRF300L vs CRF250F for example. They're both entry level adult bikes for dual sport and trail riding. The 300L is about 310 lbs ready to ride, while the 250F is 265 lbs ready to ride. That's 45 lbs, which is a lot to throw around on single-track trails. Can it be done? Absolutely, especially with some good off-road tires on the 300L, but having that extra weight in the woods is a lot more exhausting for a small guy like me.
@@MotocrossHideout Weight is a concern for sure, but I don't think it is fair to compare the CRF300L to the CRF250F, as those are 2 completely different bikes, and not just the displacement. The L is water cooled, larger, has more travel, has 6 gears, and arguably better suspension (although opinions vary about the CRF-L's suspension). If weight and seat height is a concern then the KLX230, XT250, or even maybe the TW200 are better comparisons. The KLX and XT both come in at about 291lbs, which is still 23 lbs heavier than the CRF-F, but you get lights! You can ride it anywhere! The TW comes in 278lbs, so not much more than the CRF-F, but it has lights! It's an unusual bike though, and not for everybody. But sure, if you don't mind not being able to ride on the road, then a CRF-F or a similar bike is great. Cheaper and less things to break if you dump it. And kids can't ride on the street anyway, so the smaller (150 and down) bikes for kids may as well be trail only.
Wish I would’ve watched this a year ago. I’m not new to mororcycles but am new to dirt bikes. Bought a GasGas Ex350f for my first dirtbike and it has been an experience! Crashed many times but thankfully not many bad ones. Only minor injuries. Wish now that I’d bought the Honda CRF 250f.
@@MotocrossHideout my friends recommended at least a 250 cc race bike because I’m 230 lbs, and they all ride similar bikes and are smaller than me (and have much more experience). Plus I got a good deal on it. Learning to ride it at 44 years old has been more adventure than I bargained for. And the bike has held up remarkably well too.
The only problem I have with this is my own experience. Now I ride older bikes cause I simply just can’t afford to get into new bikes. However, I got back into riding this year and started on a 2003 YZ125. Mind you I don’t hardly ride track at all. Where I have an issue with this is that within a month of being back on a bike “after 15+ years without riding even once” the YZ125 was simply not enough, I got to a point where I couldn’t even enjoy it. So I traded it for a 1998 yz400f, and I wish I would have started bigger in the first place. I’m not a tall guy but the power is what I needed.
Thanks for watching and sharing. I get it, some people just want more power - that's okay. I personally recommend people start with the least amount of power and as they gain confidence, they will be able to safely handle more.
@@MotocrossHideout I did ride my entire child hood and my last bike as a teenager was a ktm exc 200 so I am biased due to having previous long term experience
I see you didn't mention the Beta bike line . They have the RR & the RR RE . They have a little lower seat height , very good power and bottom end grunt . Also tgey can be licensed for the street .
Yeah, that's a lot of bike, especially if you're new to dirt biking. At your size, a large wheel 125/140 would fit you better (or the KLX140 full size wheel model), but if you can handle the extra weight, a 230/250 trail bike would also be easier to ride than the KX250F.
Seat time is most important to improve your skills, eventually you go riding an never drop your machine, I did and I’m 72 and ride a ktm 500 and a ktm 300 xc-w …also wear your protective gear
That's awesome that you're still riding at 72, Louis! Yep, for sure, seat time is very important! I would like to add that many trail riders often form bad habits by just getting more "seat time". But if they start with the proper techniques, then it's just a matter of forming those positive riding habits with more seat time. Thanks for watching and sharing, Louis!
My uncle has a 93 or 98 Kx125 where I live there aren't any of those bikes for sale so I will probably end up riding that Kx125 do you have any advice for me ? Btw I am 5'9 and 18y I don't have any experience on big bikes and almost none on small bikes I used to ride a bit on a ktm 50sx when I was a kid
Hey Isaac, thanks for watching - not sure where you're located, but I'm sorry that you don't have any of these bikes available to buy! I'd recommend checking out my beginner series here: th-cam.com/play/PLjlakJgdz8lKF29fOCZRY9GRLwXG-yMBv.html
4 strokes are very good these days on enduro just flame out on slow technical riding 2 strokes are insane enduro bikes harder to ride because of the power and set up but 10 times more fun
@@MotocrossHideout No, I have been riding and racing for decades, so I am past that phase. But I have seen beginners buy too much bike and ruin the experience for themselves, just as you say. They’d be better off buying less bike at first.
In fact, now that I think about it, I did this once myself, in 1973, I had been riding for awhile but I upgraded to a bike I wasn’t ready for. It was a bad experience.
Started on a crf450L, doable but not suitable. I would have had more fun on a 250f, even 22000kms and 1 year of seat time later(mostly raod) I'm still not used to the power offroad
For a beginner I would probably recommend the CRF 150F instead of the R but that depends on the rider as well. If someone is used to riding Mtn bikes through the trails, racing, etc I would say the 150R depending on their size. But a true novice or shorter stature I go with something that fits their size better and the 150F has mellower power, softer suspension. It all depends on the rider and I have started some out riding a smaller bike like a 70 or 110 even though it's way to small for their height but it helps to get them familiar with the control on a bike that isn't intimidating for being to big or powerful for them. Because they can put their feet down easier and it makes them a tad more comfortable.
Don’t listen to this. I’ve had most of these bikes, and they are ALL perfect for trail riding at any level. You can go to fast on any bike, even a little 80. My favorite trail bike is the KTM 500. That is the Cadillac of dirt bikes. I’m so much safer on the trail with that bike.
I'm glad you like your 500 - they're great bikes and I wouldn't mind having one in the garage. But tell that to all of the beginners I've talked to who started on a 300 or 450 and proceeded to whiskey throttle and crash because they got scared and couldn't handle the power on single-track trails. Is it possible to start on any bike? Yep. Is it wise? Not in my opinion. I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow, but that's just me. Thanks for watching :)
Hey James, it's a great beginner bike if you need something street legal for dual purpose riding, which is why it's on my list of best beginner dual sport bikes. It's noticeably heavier than the CRF250F, which is why I don't normally recommend it for strictly trail riding. The extra weight and DOT tires get more exhausting, but it's a very solid bike for all kinds of riding and is very easy to handle if you're not in tight and technical areas. Thanks for watching!
Had a Honda crf250F, I was not very good for slow woods. Heavy, have to keep rpm high in the sand all the time, horrible stock tires, horrible suspension, not very agile. Go with a 2 stroke
Yep! For adults under 5'6" just starting out, they're typically the best choice. Not only are they safer, but it's more fun to ride a "slow bike" fast than riding a "fast bike" slow on the trails.
It's actually very sound advice, most small adults will never outride those bikes, if you start out on a slow bike eventually you'll be fast and when you upgrade to a more powerful bike your fundamentals are good, if I hadn't ridden my 250 for so long I wouldn't have good control over my 400 because it's got enough power to really get you in trouble on trails, things like Motocross bikes are insanely overkill on tight trails and are generally no faster.
my sister would get herself killed on 50cc 2 stroke moped, there is no way i'd give her my bike for a spin . 125 4stroke are good enough for newbies, at least they wont whiskered into the first tree because they cant comprehend that clutch is there for a reason and rear brake is on foot pedal....
I'm 6'2" and I love my KLX 300r. Fully adjustable suspension and easily modded, with a new bar set up, for tall folk! Link to my channel for how vids and motovlogs.
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I have been riding bikes for a while I started off on a 70 then a 125 then I needed more power so the 250 but I might look at the enduro 350s with smoother power curve
Exactly same 2006 yz250f
Saw this video directly after purchasing a yz250f for my first bike to ride on trails lol ...if for some reason you dont beleive this guy take it from me, a guy with 2 hours of experience. Its like the bike is a sleeping lion and your job is to sit on it and poke it with a stick.
Ha, that's quite the analogy - I hope you didn't get hurt! Thanks for sharing. What's your plan now?
Thanks stinkin’ funny!!!! ….poke it with a stick. 😂
I'm like bouncing yo get back on the track
I just got a RM-Z250 so I kinda get what your sayin mines just a little more tame 😂
just got a kx250f. definitely not a trail bike lol. but whats life without a little fun
I'm 5'7 and picked up a KTM 300 EXC after 20 years only riding street bikes and not dirt. Had zero issues and was a phenomenal bike
Nice! Most people that I help don't have that easy of a transition :)
Great recommendations. Another thing to consider for new trail riders is that you will never regret owning a sleepier, smaller trail bike even after you get enough experience to enjoy rather than just survive a fast bike.
Any air cooled 250 is soo much less exhausting to ride, even with experience. Also if you can afford to own and store multiple bikes, the old beginner bike is perfect to keep for introducing newer riders down the road.
I have a 450xc that i love, but i cant in good faith let friends who are new to riding hop on it because its tall, one sneeze or whiskey throttle from looping into a tree, stalls very easy, and overheats if you ride it slow.
Meanwhile the old air cooled 250 is approachable enough for people to learn on, still plenty fun, and i can ride it when i'm sore, tired, or dont feel like wearing ear plugs.
I prefer riding a fast bike fast than a slow bike fast but riding a fast bike slow is just punishment.
I also have a few intermediate friends who ride race bikes that instantly ride noticeably smoother and faster when they borrow the beginner bike.
I completely agree on all accounts. Thanks for watching and sharing!
I recently bought a KLX150, first thing I did is change the front tyre from a 2.75-21to a 80/90-21, that extra width took away that skittish feeling in the front end, also changed rear sprocket from 52 to a 47, great little bike now.
I started out on a klx230r and after 3 years I ran into a great deal on a '02 crf450r that needed a little work. Its been 4 months on the 450r and after some trail riding mods this thing is amazing! WAYYY more power and I can finally ride in the sand uphill lol
I’m 72 years old, 5’ 5” with a 26” inseam, when seated, both of my feet are 8-10” off the ground. I weigh 125 pounds. I’m really happy with my ‘06 Husaberg 650. I ride on tight forest trails in the Cascades, sand dunes, and ride regularly in Baja, having raced SCORE events 3 times. The bike will plonk along at a walking pace and with the 6 speed gearbox it will do 115 on the dry lake beds. You might have mentioned that you were recommending bikes for rank beginners. The bike is so mellow and has so much torque a kid can ride it at slow speeds and yet has enough power to snap the front wheel off the ground in 4th gear if you desire. It’s been the perfect bike for me. Reliable, friendly, and as powerful as a range bull.
My current favorite trail bike is the Beta 200 RR. Smooth strong power but not enough to get you in trouble.
Not a 4 stroke but I've had my eye on the Beta 200 since it was announced a few years ago. Add fuel injection and I think it could be my favorite 2 stroke trail bike.
one of the reasons I bought it is unlike my Husky no fuel pumps sensors or electronic power valves to fail@@MotocrossHideout
Haha, gotcha.
Depends a lot on the terrain that you’re riding, in the part of Australia I live you would run out of legs quick on a 250, it’s all big open sandy and gravel tracks where a modern 450 with good suspension shines
You are correct in that it does depend on the terrain. I believe that the rider makes the biggest difference as far as the type of trail bike (beginner vs enduro, for example). Thanks for watching!
Stumbled on your channel today and you give lots of good info.I have ridden dirt bikes my whole life and most of bigger MX bikes are to much for me. I got a YZ250 2 stroke a few years ago for a woods bike and had to sell it.Way to much power and just hard to ride it all day.Great bike just crazy power.I also had a KDX200 2 stroke, these are still around and have great suspension and smooth power.
Ah, thanks for watching! Yeah, MX bikes are lots of fun out in the open, but I'm a big supporter of "slower" trail bikes if you're riding in tight woods, especially to beginners and older riders because you're less likely to crash from an accidental "whiskey throttle".
i recently got myself a brand new 2022 klx 300r. last i time i rode a 2 wheeler i was a kid on a ttr 90 and honda ct 70 so i'm 100% a beginner. after changing the pegs i had my first ride with the klx last week and it went amazing, i had the time of my life. the bike while not being tuned for racing is still powerful and fast it scared me a few times. if you're a beginner take it easy with these bikes they got alot of power. remember you're not racing anyone or anything, you're enjoying the trails.
Awesome, welcome back, and thanks for sharing!
Rode my 04 KTM 450MXC on some technical lower speed trails as well as some decent hill climbs! Had alot of fun and rode 2.5 hours but I realized quickly that it was NOT the right bike for where I was riding 😅 alot of clutch work as well as revving up at slower speeds so I didn't bog it out. One section I carried too much speed into a turn and a little tree kinda cut off the turn and I clipped it with my handlebar haha! I dumped it, but not hard...Luckily I was wearing my boots because the middle of my boot was in between the peg and the tree, so that's definitely gonna be sore for about a week 🥲 I enjoyed testing my skills in the woods though. 90% of the time I was only able to go in 1st gear, but a few straight-aways enabled me to give it some sauce in 2nd gear 😌 Can't wait to get out and ride again though! Hopefully I'll be able to hit some wider and longer flowing areas so I can let her scream like she wants to though!
Haven’t ridden bike for 20+ years .
Bought a ktm520 exc for dirt and a cbr1100xx for race/drag.
I don’t fuck around . The Learning curve is very steep and the speed of both is insane but I think if you can keep the ego down and be careful it’s def doable to start on a big bike but man you better be careful .
My philosophy is don’t go faster than your willing to crash on anything except perfect trail or bitumen .
I have spent ages out just practising low speed turns , emergency stops , tiny wheelies ( still no good) , drag launches etc to just build the skills base and the learning will take a looong time to be any good.
Crf250r is a great trail bike I can go anywhere a 230f could go and more, I'm very happy I bought a r over an f
What year? Just curious because all the trail bikes are expensive and I would like to buy a Yamaha yz250f for a trail bike or a crf250r and a rmz250 I’m curious if you have any problems with it or if the power is too much
Race bike has all different suspension. Different gear ratio, different power band, no kickstand, no light, no way to really plate the bike for connecting trails either.
@@wayfaringoverlander race bike transmission is fine just put a different sprocket to increase the top speed, suspension is fine although a little stiffer than would be optimal however you are way better of and can do way more hill climes and single track alot faster than a 230f and it is not worth spending an extra 1000$-2000$ more to get the 250x used (it's alot harder to find and more desirable driving the price up used)
@@wayfaringoverlander power band is not a big thing on 4 strokes doesn't matter for trail riding unless you are pro, kick stand is a sub 100$ mod, don't need a light for trail riding and again could add one if needed sub 100$ unless you are a pro racing in Enduro races the suspension is fine. Only negative is reliability compared to a CRF 230f but the performance is far superior on a 250R 20 hp and 250lbs vs the 38 hp and 231lbs on the CRF250r
@@walkerphillips2397 I wouldn’t compare a 230F to a 250 R… a 250x is for trail riding 250 R and I would side by side compare the two of those. I hear what you’re saying, and my argument is that a 250 R is not a good trial bike but a great race bike. It’s just not set up for trails. Me personally I street legal my RX to connect trails, and put a desert tank for long distance
Im a new rider i am also 5.7 could not decide on what size bike but i ended up getting a good deal on a 2022 kayo k2 230. It has done great i changed out the fron 13t to a 12t and getting ready to tune the carb. I have beat that bike up so far so good reliable and have not broken plastics yet but its been tossed around. Of course im not a bike snob and wanted something cheap to get started. I think its a great bike for a beginner as a beginner. It doesn't matter what bike you have they all have some kind of issue that is documented. But once i get good enough skills i will be looking at something nicer. Good luck everyone who is starting and do not give up it will click eventually.
A cheap bike is better than no bike! Thanks for sharing, Tyler.
@MotocrossHideout learning alot on it that's for sure 😄 have a good Christmas
Ha, nice. Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too, Tyler!
Yes they say it's 80% riding and 20% bike and agree with that.
I'm 6'3" 295 lbs. The WR250R is the perfect bike for tall riders with more than enough power. It has a tall seat hight (and can be made taller with a taller seat and lowered pegs), fuel injected, it weights about the same as me, and it has a wide ratio gear box with six gears. It likes to be rung out at high rpms. It's absolute blast on the trail! And because it's street legal, I can ride to my local trails with it. I just bought some supermoto wheels for it so that I can play more on the street. I thought I needed two bikes to do everything I wanted. In reality, all I needed was the WR250R with two wheelsets and I get to save garage space!
Thanks for sharing, John - sounds like you found the right bike for you! It's a great choice if you want to ride on and off-road legally.
I know that a 13 tooth sprocket works good on a crf150r. Might have to cut a link out, which you will. But, so far after being thrown onto a 150rb after not riding for 6-7 years after a bad wreck on a crf110, the 13 has definitely come in handy in tight turns going to a fire road and other trails like Bethel. Just also you still have to feather the clutch sometimes. Also, for a 150r carbonator, you can also use a Honda Helix clone carb. The jetting just needs to be changed during summer and winter, as normal. But also helps with kickstarting. Just another thing, the hot start would be a choke. Also have to adapt and clamp hoses since the carb is backwards. When you lay over, open the throttle, which it would still be stubborn of course, just not as bad. After a long boring story, farewell:)
Started on a 03 crf250r. The first year was terrifying. Washed out on gravel and blew my knee out. Got a 2019 yz250f and I love the bike now. Is it the ideal way to learn? Probably not but it can be done
Excellent video, as usual. I'm 67 and slowing down. Just bought a 2024 KLX 300, and absolutely love it. I will be also picking up a 2025 KLX 300R in the spring. I've been riding since age 11. Started with a Honda 50 Mini Trail. Then a 1971 Yamaha Enduro. Then a 1975 Honda 125 Elsinore when I started racing. I enjoy slow trail rides and being able to use the highways when needed. I appreciate all your videos.
Thanks so much for your kind words and support, James!
That's awesome that you've been riding so long, and glad to see you're enjoying the KLX300R :)
I agree with much of this. I do believe the WR250F isn’t overwhelmingly powerful and good for a taller newer rider. I own a KX250X and the suspension is Uber plush and with the mild map it has very smooth linear power and won’t loop out unless of course you’re trying to. :-)
Yeah, I agree that the WR250F is fairly tame and some beginners would be fine in open areas or easy trails. I just don't like recommending it to beginner trail riders because it's more aggressive than a bike like the TTR230, making it a little harder to build your confidence.
BTW, that 125 XC for your son looks sweet! Nice trials bike, too :)
Thank you. That trials bike is torn down to the frame. The frame and some other parts are out for powder coat. That trials bike was Pat Smage’s practice bike from 2017.
@@MotocrossHideoutbtw my son wants to sell his 125 KTM and move to the kx250x. He rode it and said the suspension is out of this world.
Oh nice! Do you live in or near WI?
I'm surprised the suspension is that much better than his '23 KTM. I rode a CRF250RX for a few minutes this summer and was impressed when I hit some chop and a big g-out at about 30 mph by accident.
@@MotocrossHideoutwe live in Ohio but often travel to ride.
How much power do i need? I havent found the limit yet. Riding big bore 2 strokes for many years has prepared me for anything out there today.
Hey Dave, that depends on your goals and the type of riding you're doing. I've found that most beginner trail riders are SLOWER on faster bikes: th-cam.com/video/136tMxjhwF8/w-d-xo.html
i bought 450 crf 2008 for my first bike and i couldn’t be happier i learned everything on it and i wouldn’t rode anything below 450
Good for you. I'm glad you're happy :)
Bought a 2024 250RX. Bike shreds!
I started riding back when I was 5 or 6 on a 90cc Yamaha, i moved to a ttr 125 later and now a kx250f motorcross bike. The motor cross bikes aren’t bad for trail riding sure it’s slightly unforgiving and you can’t have a inflated ego on it or it’ll punish you but I haven’t had a bad experience with MX bikes on trails
Yeah it's definitely possible. I've ridden quite a few MX/race bikes on the trails, it just depends on how motivated you are to ride a snappy/aggressive bike, especially if you're a beginner/novice. Thanks for watching!
@@MotocrossHideout with few mods (rekluse excluded, those are kinda expensive where i live, flywheel weight, replaced X CDI, softer suspension ) MX bikes can be made into manageable enduro bikes
I’ll stay with my 1969 Husqvarna 360 8sp Sportsman. 4” of suspension keeps me in line.
I'm 5'9 and 180lbs. The KLX 300 is a good cheap bike for trail riding for sure. It sips gas and maintenance is minimal. If you want a bike to ride, not do oil changes and air filter cleaning, this bike is for you. The suspension sucks but as long as you don't try big jumps you will be ok. It is heavy and wears you out if you crash a lot. I suggest one for a newer rider that can get on a tall machine. I also have a KTM 350 which is hands down better in every way, but you will pay 3 times as much for it and there is a lot more maintenance. On regular trail rides, the green one wins. It's way softer and you can go all day on a tank of gas. When you are racing or on really nasty hard enduro rides, the orange bike is hard to beat. They are like having a Chevy and a Ferrari. Both will get you somewhere but KTM will be there first.
I started on RMZ250 and it’s awesome. Just have to learn clutch control when your climbing.
I’m looking at a 2013 rmz 250 as my first bike. I’m 6’0 160 lbs. do you recommend?
Is it possible to ride? Yes. Do I recommend it? No, because it's harder to learn on and stay in control if you've never ridden before, plus it's higher maintenance than a beginner trail bike.
It's very easy compared to some bikes and very scary compared to other bikes. Remember that the trail isn't like riding in your yard, and any of these bikes can body slam you. At 160# he's probably right. I weight 200 and it took me a while to get comfortable riding it over small obstructions and up hills.
Would it be good to start on a crf125f
It's a great bike to start on if it fits your height :) You should be able to touch the ground with a foot when sitting in the middle of the seat.
I went riding on sloppy, roots + trees on a CRF110F and CRF125FB with my boy - man that was fun haha. I was on the 110F and I'm 6'2"
Ha, nice - thanks for watching!
I am 78 years old 180lbs 5 ft. 10 in. rode a ktm exc 4 stroke untill 2007 ride street now and going to get back in to riding trail again. Thinking about the new Honda CRF 250F or the new fuel injected GPX Moto FSE 250e which is a copy of the CRF 250F air cooled fuel injected engine and KTM copy frame and suspension. This bike has good reviews and support like the Honda comes from China and uses high quality components and is much lightr than the Honda. The seat height is lower on the Honda 34.8 verses 37 on the GPX which I like and what if any suspension mods will I have to do to the Honda to have it handle well on the trails and handle my weight? What do you think would be the best choice for me since at the time when I was last riding my riding skills were expierenced. Thank You.
Good question. I'd say it depends on your personal preference and needs. I haven't owned a GPX, but it may be harder to get replacement parts for unless you already have a reliable source. Build quality might be decent but probably not as durable as the Honda (the CRF250F is already proven).
Do you want a power or taller seat height?
I don't think weight will be a huge difference, especially since the GPX will have a higher center of gravity. Their weight spec is *dry weight w/pit fluids, so add another 15-20 lbs.
As for suspension, the Honda is okay, but if you'll probably want to upgrade for a plusher ride after a while.
Forks can be done cheap by sending internals to Bruce Triplett.
Rear shock upgrade is going to be the most expensive.
Let us know what you end up with!
I Will and thank you for the reply. Still in the planning and research stage.
What are your thoughts on the KX250X? Is that comparable to the WR250F?
Hey Luis, they're both great bikes for their intended use. The KX250X is a cross-country race bike that wants to be ridden faster - snappy power and stiffer suspension.
The WR250F (depending on the year), is more of a high-performance trail bike with smoother power and slightly softer suspension, although Yamaha has made the newer ones more aggressive.
Anything running Rotella is the ultimate trail bike.
Ha, so I guess my bike is currently not considered "ultimate" - as of the last oil change then...
@@MotocrossHideout 🤣
I think u forgot the honda crf450x the 2022 had a bunch of controls to tame the power or open it up had has a 6gear I would definitely not say for a beginner but Advance rider would be perfect and then he could go pro
I would go for the klx 300r from the early 2000s with a seat hight of 36” it’s also about 50 pounds lighter than the new klx 300r
Yep, great bike if you don't need E-start and EFI. Thanks for watching, Grant!
Go dual sport. The KLX's and CFR-L's are great! The KTM is crazy good. Maybe want more aggressive tires, but at least you don't have to trailer it every time you need to go down the road a little bit. Yamaha is a bit behind on the dual sport offerings with basically the TW and XT the only offerings in that range, but both of those are good for the right rider too. And of course there is the CRF450L or Suzuki DRZ400, but those aren't really for beginners. And the 650's as well, but also not for beginners and sort of heavy and torquey for my liking. But the point is there is a dual sport for every adult rider these days that can more than handle trails.
Now that all the bikes have electric start, there is no reason not to go street legal for the 10 lbs extra it puts on.
Dual sports are great if you don't want to or can't trailer a bike. While the KTM EXC-F models are fairly lightweight, I don't agree with the last statement of "there is no reason not to go street legal for the 10 lbs extra it puts on."
Take the CRF300L vs CRF250F for example. They're both entry level adult bikes for dual sport and trail riding. The 300L is about 310 lbs ready to ride, while the 250F is 265 lbs ready to ride. That's 45 lbs, which is a lot to throw around on single-track trails.
Can it be done? Absolutely, especially with some good off-road tires on the 300L, but having that extra weight in the woods is a lot more exhausting for a small guy like me.
@@MotocrossHideout Weight is a concern for sure, but I don't think it is fair to compare the CRF300L to the CRF250F, as those are 2 completely different bikes, and not just the displacement. The L is water cooled, larger, has more travel, has 6 gears, and arguably better suspension (although opinions vary about the CRF-L's suspension). If weight and seat height is a concern then the KLX230, XT250, or even maybe the TW200 are better comparisons. The KLX and XT both come in at about 291lbs, which is still 23 lbs heavier than the CRF-F, but you get lights! You can ride it anywhere! The TW comes in 278lbs, so not much more than the CRF-F, but it has lights! It's an unusual bike though, and not for everybody.
But sure, if you don't mind not being able to ride on the road, then a CRF-F or a similar bike is great. Cheaper and less things to break if you dump it. And kids can't ride on the street anyway, so the smaller (150 and down) bikes for kids may as well be trail only.
Good advice if you have very little experiencr
Wish I would’ve watched this a year ago. I’m not new to mororcycles but am new to dirt bikes. Bought a GasGas Ex350f for my first dirtbike and it has been an experience! Crashed many times but thankfully not many bad ones. Only minor injuries. Wish now that I’d bought the Honda CRF 250f.
Sorry to hear that, Cory! Glad you haven't gotten too banged up though...
What made you decide to buy that EX350F when you did?
@@MotocrossHideout my friends recommended at least a 250 cc race bike because I’m 230 lbs, and they all ride similar bikes and are smaller than me (and have much more experience). Plus I got a good deal on it. Learning to ride it at 44 years old has been more adventure than I bargained for. And the bike has held up remarkably well too.
@@corylangston9784 Gotcha, yeah I've heard that before, unfortunately...
Ride Safe & Have Fun!
Excellent review
Thanks, Paige!
The only problem I have with this is my own experience. Now I ride older bikes cause I simply just can’t afford to get into new bikes. However, I got back into riding this year and started on a 2003 YZ125. Mind you I don’t hardly ride track at all. Where I have an issue with this is that within a month of being back on a bike “after 15+ years without riding even once” the YZ125 was simply not enough, I got to a point where I couldn’t even enjoy it. So I traded it for a 1998 yz400f, and I wish I would have started bigger in the first place. I’m not a tall guy but the power is what I needed.
Thanks for watching and sharing. I get it, some people just want more power - that's okay.
I personally recommend people start with the least amount of power and as they gain confidence, they will be able to safely handle more.
@@MotocrossHideout I did ride my entire child hood and my last bike as a teenager was a ktm exc 200 so I am biased due to having previous long term experience
I see you didn't mention the Beta bike line . They have the RR & the RR RE . They have a little lower seat height , very good power and bottom end grunt . Also tgey can be licensed for the street .
Yeah I don't doubt they're good bikes. I'd like to try them to know for myself! Thanks for watching, Scott!
whats your opinion on the crf230f, was considering between that and a 250r
Great trail bike. I still have my 230F.
The 250R motocross bike? That's completely different.
@@MotocrossHideout that’s the one , use bikes on farm all day, sounds like 230f is the go
for eg: im 5 foot 3 14yrs and ride kx250f but want a lower geared bike so would and adult bike work better?
Yeah, that's a lot of bike, especially if you're new to dirt biking. At your size, a large wheel 125/140 would fit you better (or the KLX140 full size wheel model), but if you can handle the extra weight, a 230/250 trail bike would also be easier to ride than the KX250F.
I had a 125 and was not enough power I like the power of the 250
It’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast Bike slow.
i have a 2013 kx250f and im going to a crf250f. im 5,10 145ilbs i hope this is a good option
If you want a bike that's easier to ride, a lower seat height and less maintenance, the crf250f trail bike is a great option.
Seat time is most important to improve your skills, eventually you go riding an never drop your machine, I did and I’m 72 and ride a ktm 500 and a ktm 300 xc-w …also wear your protective gear
That's awesome that you're still riding at 72, Louis!
Yep, for sure, seat time is very important!
I would like to add that many trail riders often form bad habits by just getting more "seat time". But if they start with the proper techniques, then it's just a matter of forming those positive riding habits with more seat time.
Thanks for watching and sharing, Louis!
My uncle has a 93 or 98 Kx125 where I live there aren't any of those bikes for sale so I will probably end up riding that Kx125 do you have any advice for me ?
Btw I am 5'9 and 18y I don't have any experience on big bikes and almost none on small bikes I used to ride a bit on a ktm 50sx when I was a kid
Hey Isaac, thanks for watching - not sure where you're located, but I'm sorry that you don't have any of these bikes available to buy!
I'd recommend checking out my beginner series here: th-cam.com/play/PLjlakJgdz8lKF29fOCZRY9GRLwXG-yMBv.html
4 strokes are very good these days on enduro just flame out on slow technical riding 2 strokes are insane enduro bikes harder to ride because of the power and set up but 10 times more fun
good job
thanks
2004 Suzuki DRZ400K
Beta for the win! 🥇
Which Beta do you ride?
Good advice
Thanks for watching, John! Are you looking to get a trail bike soon?
@@MotocrossHideout No, I have been riding and racing for decades, so I am past that phase. But I have seen beginners buy too much bike and ruin the experience for themselves, just as you say. They’d be better off buying less bike at first.
In fact, now that I think about it, I did this once myself, in 1973, I had been riding for awhile but I upgraded to a bike I wasn’t ready for. It was a bad experience.
Ha, gotcha - thanks for sharing, John!
Started on a crf450L, doable but not suitable. I would have had more fun on a 250f, even 22000kms and 1 year of seat time later(mostly raod) I'm still not used to the power offroad
Yeah... They're fun out in the open, but the power and weight can be hard to manage on tighter/slower trails...
lmao best bet for newbies maybe the five you said to avoid are the best trail bikes on the market
Yep, did you watch the entire video, Vince?
@MotocrossHideout it was tough to get through all the ignorance in the first minute 😂😂😂😂😂
Rieju Ranger 300.
4 Stroke.
I love my ktm 350 xcf best first bike
Honda CRF150R is the best trail bike for shorter riders imo
Besides a lower seat height, what makes it the best?
For a beginner I would probably recommend the CRF 150F instead of the R but that depends on the rider as well. If someone is used to riding Mtn bikes through the trails, racing, etc I would say the 150R depending on their size. But a true novice or shorter stature I go with something that fits their size better and the 150F has mellower power, softer suspension.
It all depends on the rider and I have started some out riding a smaller bike like a 70 or 110 even though it's way to small for their height but it helps to get them familiar with the control on a bike that isn't intimidating for being to big or powerful for them. Because they can put their feet down easier and it makes them a tad more comfortable.
Completely agree - thanks for sharing!
KLX230. Beat bike
Don’t listen to this. I’ve had most of these bikes, and they are ALL perfect for trail riding at any level. You can go to fast on any bike, even a little 80. My favorite trail bike is the KTM 500. That is the Cadillac of dirt bikes. I’m so much safer on the trail with that bike.
I'm glad you like your 500 - they're great bikes and I wouldn't mind having one in the garage.
But tell that to all of the beginners I've talked to who started on a 300 or 450 and proceeded to whiskey throttle and crash because they got scared and couldn't handle the power on single-track trails.
Is it possible to start on any bike? Yep.
Is it wise? Not in my opinion.
I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow, but that's just me. Thanks for watching :)
I couldn't imagine anything better for beginner or a veteran then a CRF 300L.
Hey James, it's a great beginner bike if you need something street legal for dual purpose riding, which is why it's on my list of best beginner dual sport bikes.
It's noticeably heavier than the CRF250F, which is why I don't normally recommend it for strictly trail riding. The extra weight and DOT tires get more exhausting, but it's a very solid bike for all kinds of riding and is very easy to handle if you're not in tight and technical areas. Thanks for watching!
I can't imagine anything but a 2 stroke YZ 125 or a WR 250 R or a xt 250 YAMAHAS. 4 strokes are for dorks.
@@combatmedic91-b76says a dork that doesn't own either. You can't imagine what?
oh shit lol my first is wr450f
Had a Honda crf250F, I was not very good for slow woods. Heavy, have to keep rpm high in the sand all the time, horrible stock tires, horrible suspension, not very agile. Go with a 2 stroke
lol might as well mention don’t get a Gsxr 1000 as a trial bike as well. You named every other bike in existence
Yep, the Silverado Trail Boss is great for trails too!!
Damn how tall is he
5'6"
Im too short for these bikes bruh 5.5 sucks i need a hobby for a shorter person
Best Dirt Bike For Short Riders [Pros & Cons of Short Bikes]: th-cam.com/video/AXOBIX_9aHI/w-d-xo.html
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Pretty trashy information.....
You are seriousky recommending 4 stroke 125s to adults?
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Yep! For adults under 5'6" just starting out, they're typically the best choice. Not only are they safer, but it's more fun to ride a "slow bike" fast than riding a "fast bike" slow on the trails.
@@MotocrossHideout how about riding a fast bike fast on trails?
I don't recommend it to a first time rider because most people are faster and safer on a "slow bike" to start out on.
It's actually very sound advice, most small adults will never outride those bikes, if you start out on a slow bike eventually you'll be fast and when you upgrade to a more powerful bike your fundamentals are good, if I hadn't ridden my 250 for so long I wouldn't have good control over my 400 because it's got enough power to really get you in trouble on trails, things like Motocross bikes are insanely overkill on tight trails and are generally no faster.
my sister would get herself killed on 50cc 2 stroke moped, there is no way i'd give her my bike for a spin . 125 4stroke are good enough for newbies, at least they wont whiskered into the first tree because they cant comprehend that clutch is there for a reason and rear brake is on foot pedal....
Been riding for 20 years. I love my 24 husky 350fx badass bike but it is to much bike for a rider just starting
I'm 6'2" and I love my KLX 300r. Fully adjustable suspension and easily modded, with a new bar set up, for tall folk! Link to my channel for how vids and motovlogs.
Nice - thanks for watching!