@@craigjarvis9677 then get in touch with your local dealer or GPX moto 😁 Gpx moto UK did a test day yesterday in Hampshire but if you give them a follow on Facebook them may well be doing another 👍
@@kingkong81icloud I get it totally,but just seems real convenient with my riding buddies. As we stash gas for our long nor cal rides. Ktm seems to trust the 2 stroke oil injection. But I can afford a sweet ktm...lol
I've been riding my GPX TSE 250r for over a year and a half now and still love the bike. For reference my previous bike was a 2015 ktm 500exc. I originally thought I was taking a chance buying a cheap new bike over a used name brand but now I don't see myself wanting to sell or "upgrade" to anything else anytime soon. I have raced enduro, done crazy hill climbs with friends and went on slow trail rides with new riders and my GPX has been wonderful for me.
Also, one of the reasons I bought this bike is because I've never been a two stroke guy and wanted to improve my riding technique along with my clutch skills. Not to mention, I don't care about nor do I want to bother with mixing gas so mine with the oil injection has been perfect for me personally.
Glad to hear you're enjoying yours so much! I think they're a brilliantly capable bike and I'm glad it meets your needs Could you see yourself upgrading to the 300cc or a newer GPX in future?
@@ILikeMotorbikes Honestly I like my "250" so much that I don't really see the need to. Of course I love getting to try new and different bikes but unless I could resell my current GPX for a very good price, I don't think it would make sense. Also, if the new 300 doesn't have the oil injection that's a big miss for me personally. I love being able to just gas up and go ride. I only put oil in mine bike once every 2 or 3 rides and it usually doesn't really need it yet. Thirdly, I plated my bike to be street legal (here in the U.S.) initially when I first titled the bike when it was new. My wife and I like to ride the mountains in Colorado on vacations and we have to have "street legal" bikes to ride the gravel roads connecting different trails so having the oil injection makes it that much easier for me to just gas up and go when exploring. It is really tempting to look into the newer 300 version still lol.
@@dracer35 that makes total sense, for hassle free riding where you can easily burn through multiple tanks of gas then oil injection makes total sense. Also it's great to here even after so much time you still like your 250. Have you had any reliability issues at all? Regardless of the bike you have it's always exciting and tempting to be looking at other bikes 😁
@@ILikeMotorbikes I did have to initially go back over all the bolts on the bike after the first ride to tighten a few that had worked themselves loose including the nut for the Kickstarter that got lost somewhere along the trail. Luckily the Kickstarter made it back to the truck with me lol. I don't really fault GPX for this since I've had other new bikes included Kawasaki and Yamaha that had the exact same thing happen. Definitely wouldn't hurt to add a touch of blue loctite on the steel threaded parts as needed.
The key is a HUGE deal for me. My only complaint with the European Enduro bikes is that I'd have to lock my butt to the seat instead of being able to walk in to the fuel station for a snack. Excellent execution of your script, my good man; you've done us a solid favor.
I say this everytime....... you deserve more subs!! honestly though i really enjoy your videos, motivates me to do more! also shout out to the camera guy climbing up in the trees! dedication hahahaa
WOW! what freaking awesome production and presentation on this video, maybe the new logo has something to do with it!? But honestly, this a very high quality, love the leaf effects too 🍂🍂 Well done Tom. I’m not really a 2 stroke fan, but I’d deffo give this a ride! 👊🏻
Great production with the video. I would love to see the bike tested in normal enduro conditions though. I think every bike seems pretty good in soft leafy loam 2 track 😀
Thanks for the kind words! Totally agree I'd have preferred a proper place to test the bike but sadly it wasn't an option. James, the importer of the GPX bikes in the UK is riding one at enduro events in the UK nad has been pretty successful so far, you can find all his info on the GPX Enduro Moto Uk Facebook page. Fingers crossed I get to ride the 300cc 2 stroke at a proper track when it arrives 🤞
I will be making a video of my Chinese bike in a race. Mine isn't the same name as this but it look like the same factory made them. I won't mention the name here out of respect to GPX. But I've looked it over and the quality is there. Good welds great manufactured parts, but mine is an actual 249cc 2 stroke. I'll be racing amateur over 59 class in Texas later this year as I get use to the bikes again. But I think I can take them even with my 2000 dollar Chinese bike with a 4 stroke.
My GPX arrived broken out of the crate.... Once I got that sorted out, the bike only lasted a couple months of hard riding before multiple issues started popping up, which kept the bike down for months. While it was down I went nuts trying to find information and parts. The ignition switch was one of the first things to go....
@@ILikeMotorbikes I'm in the US and my bike was a 2019 FSE250 R. I realize I probably got a worse lemon than most GPXs. But it doesn't change the fact that GPXs are a decent frame and engine wrapped in cheap, poorly copied Chinese junk.... Trust me, a GPX buyer is not getting a KTM at half price....
@@painsrides3616 for sure I don't think they are getting a KTM at half the price but the value overall seems reasonable. In the UK there is 6 months warranty which would take care of plenty and still leave you with change... No manufacturer is perfect but I just think GPX are offering a good alternative Anyway I hope you got your GPX sorted or have a different bike that is now reliable 👍
@@ILikeMotorbikes The GPX is long gone and I ride a Husky TE250 that serves me very well. As for the value of a GPX. Hmm...These bikes are not 1/2 the cost of a KTM for nothing, the cost savings is in materials and production quality, things that save the buyer money at the sale but will cost dearly on the user end..... Frustration, aggravation and lost ride time included...
Nice set of riding gear Tom, no hiding in the bushes when the plod come and nick you for riding in the woods! I bought a Husky TE300 2015 with 16 hours on it for five grand, three years ago. Time will tell if the Orientals can convince us the products they build are fit for purpose, whatever the price? Keep up to good work.
Haha cheers Graham! Luckily I'm not one for getting myself into trouble so hopefully no hiding necessary... Its more so I can be found in the bushes when I've looped myself into oblivion 🤣 Sounds like you got a bargain! Prices seem to have gone up considerably and when you take into account some previous owners don't take good care of their bikes, it means bikes like this are a really attractive option.
I've heard from KTM guys that the KTM frames are manufactured in China along with many other KTM components, shipped to Austria, and then assembled with the rest of the Austrian manufactured components into complete bikes, then exported. A global market is every where.
That's the one I'm going to order, the four stroke 250. I saw one at a motosports shop two weeks ago in Amarillo, Tx.. At first I thought it was some new European brand, they look that good in real life. But I didn't buy it from that dealer. It's much cheaper to just order it from the distributor in Utah.
What makes me scratching my head is, how do I get spare parts and accessories like rad guards and stuff for such a niche product? There isn't even an importer over here....
Yeah definitely something for trails or some practice days. I think at the highest level of racing it wouldn't cut it but there are a few in the UK being raced at club level so it has potential
@@ILikeMotorbikes last year July 2021 we launch that bike named it MPX it's on the market here in the Philippines,I was part of the team as sales & marketing but unfortunately quit after a few months..what I like is the wide ratio transmission
@@ILikeMotorbikes yes its the same bike as GPX hengjian in china,unlike in the U.S it's only GPX as the dealership here in the Philippines its an open market there's a few who import and sell the BIKES
this bike has similarities in spare parts like KTM also...hope in the future this model will came out to Malaysia here..so we could have another choice of enduro bikes 😊💯
Very good review. Can you comment on the width of the motor ? It looks a little wide on the video and I was wondering if it interfered with braking and / or shifting when one wears off road motorcycle boots. Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
Hi Conrad, thanks for the kind words. I've ridden a fair few off road or enduro bikes and this was the same in that I never had an issue, even with my MX boots in getting to the gear lever or the brake lever. Hope that answers your question
For people interested in these, I have a kayo kt250 equivalent. they have a ktm style frame, plastics and similar tank. The air box is a direct clone of a ktm air box. Yamaha dt230 cloned engine. Many of the parts are interchangeable. The suspension is crf450 cloned. The wheels are interchangeable with a specific year of crf250. They are good, fairly fast, and seemingly reliable machines. The suspension is a little soft but fully adjustable and there are people who can revalve them. If you buy the kayo you’ll save money but you’ll want to upgrade the pipe and reeds for the full power capabilities. Like those two mods make an insane difference on power. These things lug for days. If you need parts you don’t have to source them from China, you can buy the name brand equivalent from a ktm, Honda, or Yamaha. Also the dealer can get all the parts.
@@bve7397I own 4 ktms 2020-2022 and they’re fuckin amazing but I also own these as beat up drill bikes and they’re the tits. If you can’t work on a bike or wrench on one then you don’t belong on a bike anyways. Simple maintenance and common sense and these bikes are reliable and quality for the money you’re paying. I can get a fuck around street legal dirtbike for 4K starting where with any street legal ktm I’m looking at least at 10k. I have Hondas and every other bike as well. These aren’t bad at all.
Funny how people keep saying they would stick with ktm Yamaha etc. Reality is if people could afford to buy them they would. Id rather brand new vs used with unknown issues l. Parts availability lol i waited months for a crf 300l clutch lever & 6 months for the plastics. Every first gen bike will have issues with parts if you are one of the first people to own one. Quality control is my concerns (I've bought x50+ bikes in the last 2years, so I have an idea what I'm talking about)
You speak a lot of sense! Agree with a lot of what you said. Reality is these are 50-60% of the cost of an equivalent big name manufacturer yet perform almost as well.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 👍 Will certainly try and follow up with the importer. The importer is planning to race one (and has done one already) all through 2022 including redbull's sea to sky race... I'll see what I can do to follow up for you
They've been out since 2019 many have over 200hrs on stock topend. Myself I had around 140 on mine before I cold seized it. Not bikes fault. They are a solid bike.
Arguably it's very good. It's definitely got a few minor niggles but overall it's a very capable bike and far better in many regards than bikes of the 90s. The chassis, suspension and brakes all being stand out items on this bike. The importer has raced them at some of the hardest enduro venues in the UK and the bike has been more than capable at finishing events and even completed a 24hr enduro! Hope that gives you some idea of their calibre
So in the UK GPX Moto have a vast stock of spares to help with servicing. For the motor i'm not sure if you can go to Yamaha but for the other cycle parts (brake pads, wheel bearings etc) many KTM parts fit and cross over
Interesting review, I suppose the main downdides would be how long the parts last, availability of parts and resale value (if you didn't plan to keep it)
That's certainly a consideration. The parts availability I'm told shouldn't be an issue as there will be a UK stock of spares too. I'm not convinced the longevity of many parts will be an issue in reality, there is a huge following in the US for these bikes and over the last 3 years plenty of people have taken the choice to have one and parts not lasting, hasn't been something I've read during my research. Can't comment on resale value but it's a valid point for sure 👍
And knowing they are built by commie slave labor. In plants where they basically work their staff to ☠️ Yeah that’s great 👍 Here in America we call that bull 💩 !!
@@alexskelton3331 Neither does the US have school shootings. Every US school/other mass shooting you've seen covered heavily by the MSM were manufactured/scripted propaganda in which nobody really died.
I guess it depends on your outlook but I get why it's useful for some! I can't answer that question but if you visit the Facebook group for the GPX Moto in the US I'm sure they will be able to answer the question 👍
What about as a second bike? On a '22 DRZ400S atm. Had a '03 RM125 and a slew of street bikes. Worth it? There's a local dealer not 8 miles from me (parts n such hence why Im here looking) and they cost less than a YT Decoy.
Having ridden a few DRZs I'd say this is a great second bike! Much more focused for enduro riding than a DRZ which is better for trails and true dual sport riding in my opinion. Awesome having a dealer so close too! Get a test ride on one to confirm I'd say
Two main questions everyone has when it comes to Chinese bikes never seem to get addressed in reviews. 1: reliability/longevity 2: parts availability I will never pay for a Chinese bike until a review proves to me these are not an issue.
It's always hard to assess reliability and longevity in a morning of riding though. This very bike is being raced by the importer, James Brown, and you can find the link to the Facebook page on the description. No failures beyond fall damage so far. Also he is importing plenty of spares with bikes so there should be 100% UK dealer stock of parts. Alternatively there are many parts from the KTM exc range which are a direct fit so I don't believe you'll have issues with finding replacement parts for this bike. I can't comment for other brands but certainly GPX seem to have it figured out
It's hard to say but I know this bike completed the 24 hour dawn to dusk enduro so it can certainly take some abuse! I don't see any reason why it would be any worse than any other manufacturer
That I don't know as I think it varies state to state doesn't it? My knowledge of US emissions is slim but there is a huge Facebook following in the US for these bikes and plenty of owners over there. I suggest asking those folks on that forum, just search GPX moto/pitster Pro on Facebook or get in contact with USA motor toys who build the bike and they should be able to answer 👍
Tricky decision to make. I guess it will boil down to cost and your appetite for resale value (which may depend on how long you plan on keeping the bike) Try and get a ride on both is my only suggestion.
I would definitely like to review one of these bikes. I would put this machine through all the stuff I normally ride and even get a lot of my riding buddies that are A riders to give it a spin. Sadly, I don't think GPX would consider me a big enough channel to give it a go.
@@ILikeMotorbikesdid you buy one in the end & how's it holding up if so. I'd definitely change out the switch gear for some OEM style one's but over all definitely a good starting platform for anyone
@officialmysteriousrider130 I didn't buy one as I didn't have budget for one. There's a few I know who purchased them and they seem to be doing well and have completed some prestigious events so they must be alright
You mention they keep improving the bikes as time goes on which is true but the price also increases with those upgrades and now they are more expensive than used good name brand bikes which takes away from the "value" you get from gpx imo. In other words, if you can get a used name brand bike for equal price or less than a gpx, you would be better off getting the used bike.
I totally see your point but as the price of the GPX rises, so does every other manufacturer so it stays about the same for the gap between them and this. I think rather than saying this is a worse option or a better option what is great, is that people do now have the option! It's an opportunity to make a choice that wasn't available previously and that is only a good thing for the sport in my opinion
Definitely not built “under license” but looks a good bike but parts availability will be an issue unless you can find out what parts are interchangeable with “mainstream” models
The overall performance of that Motor isnt close to the current standard of Yamaha, Beta, KTM Group and Sherco 250s. Ive seen plenty reviews and most do say its not close to the more expensive brands. You are paying less cash for less bike. Its good for what it is. But its not comparable yet. Maybe in the future
Yeah it isn't on par with a ktm 250 exc but feels a lot like my old KTM 200exc which was still plenty of bike. I think it's a great option as nothing else is as good for the money in my opinion
That would be nice, and they may improve later and include that. I rode an XR250R for many years and it didn't have a separate clutch cover either, had to remove the entire side cover.
I imagine because it's not totally suitable for a road legal enduro bike sadly. Look at any enduro vs MX engine and the enduro version makes a broader spread of power. Just the way of the world
@@ILikeMotorbikes it's probably just down to cost the dtr licence was probably alot cheaper than the yz, the yz 250 x is basically a a softer mor flexible tune with wider ratio box that engine would have put the gpx straight up with ktm,beta etc. Maybe yamaha didn't want them to have through competition
No Japanese manufacturers are going to licence out design patents on a new tech design that is still in current production and only outdated lower tech designs are sold to the Chinese manufacturers. The tech of today also requires materials of a higher spec thought areas in the motors and run under higher stresses and require more maintenance. The idea is to keep manufacturing costs along with materials costs down to keep the price point and profit margins within reason. Besides if the engines are pitting out more power then the rest of the bike also needs to be built to handle that power and build spec for the rest of the bike will also go up. I build engines for Dirtbikes for a living and there is good reason why NO chinese parts are allowed to go into any of the Japanese motors I build. The metallurgy of the metals are not the same(yet).
Nothing but issues with my 2021 TSE250R since I got it brand new. Also good luck trying to sell it. Nobody wants a used Chinese bike and you have to sell them for half of what you paid new.
Electric power valve on my 04 cr125 is not so good. LOL neither were the cr250s with them. This is coming from a top notch company . Glory years for the cr125 was the 1980s and 1990s up until 1997 engine wise
@@ScotlandsGold haha excellent! I love the justification for buying a bike 😁 if the choice is to buy a bike or not buy a bike... Well you know what I'm likely to say... Look forward to seeing you on a GPX 😁👍
The majority of parts used to make all the well known enduro bikes, are Chinese made. Some trials bikes are wholly Chinese, other than the tyres. Not sure if thats widely known or not?
It's definitely not widely known I'd say, it's well marketed I think and hidden from the consumers view I'd imagine. Doesn't surprise me that some trials bikes are wholly Chinese though. The Chinese manufacturers are building BMW engines amongst others that are renown for quality!
@@ILikeMotorbikes I heard about Chinese manufacturing most of the well known off-road bikes, a few years back from a company who supplied Gas Gas. No reason at all why Chinese made parts, shouldn't be very good, its the unit cost chiselling which results in dubious quality.
@@humourless682 that and low quality control. The factories can likely produce high quality but its a fight between quality and penny pinching usually!
@@ILikeMotorbikes Yes I guess so. Can remember taking to the manager of a WEC team, whose next year's bike was all Chinese. A good deal of whining about all the failures, happening during testing, but very diplomatic reaction, when I asked if this had anything to do the Chinese parts.................
@@humourless682 very interesting! I think overall the Chinese manufacturers get a bad press... Because that's what people shout about the most! All of our electronics and plenty of other things besides are made in China but people aren't telling you that their phone still works everyday are they?
I've been riding Motocross and dirt bikes my whole life, every since the early 80's and none of my bikes has ever had a kickstand! If you ride dirt bikes on trails and jumps, and you have a kickstand, then you're asking for trouble, because one day it's going to come down and cause you to crash, mark my words!
I understand your point but I disagree - hundreds, if not thousands of enduro bikes now come with a kickstand and these GPX bikes, as well as KTMs have a little securing loop for stopping exactly what you describe.
Bike looks good but let’s be real this bike will be getting passed by 125s from ktm husky Yamaha and even the older 125s like Kawasaki Honda and Suzuki
Realistically this isn't a competition bike like those you list, it's much more aimed at dual sport riders I think but has the ability to be raced (and is being raced) for those that are at the entry level of the enduro scene and for everyone except perhaps experts. A good rider on this wont be passed b a bad rider on an equivalent KTM/Husky etc
I m not against chinese products. But copy the labor of other brans is unfair, wen the tey have to invest a lot o money in development for other take the credits.
Who wants a go on this GPX moto?
Me!
@@craigjarvis9677 then get in touch with your local dealer or GPX moto 😁 Gpx moto UK did a test day yesterday in Hampshire but if you give them a follow on Facebook them may well be doing another 👍
I was interested until I heard they did away with oil injection. Nice when you don't have to premix.
@@Hyundairobitdog I never used it on my Yamahas , they can fail you are better off mixing it ,
@@kingkong81icloud I get it totally,but just seems real convenient with my riding buddies. As we stash gas for our long nor cal rides. Ktm seems to trust the 2 stroke oil injection. But I can afford a sweet ktm...lol
I've been riding my GPX TSE 250r for over a year and a half now and still love the bike. For reference my previous bike was a 2015 ktm 500exc. I originally thought I was taking a chance buying a cheap new bike over a used name brand but now I don't see myself wanting to sell or "upgrade" to anything else anytime soon. I have raced enduro, done crazy hill climbs with friends and went on slow trail rides with new riders and my GPX has been wonderful for me.
Also, one of the reasons I bought this bike is because I've never been a two stroke guy and wanted to improve my riding technique along with my clutch skills. Not to mention, I don't care about nor do I want to bother with mixing gas so mine with the oil injection has been perfect for me personally.
Glad to hear you're enjoying yours so much! I think they're a brilliantly capable bike and I'm glad it meets your needs
Could you see yourself upgrading to the 300cc or a newer GPX in future?
@@ILikeMotorbikes Honestly I like my "250" so much that I don't really see the need to. Of course I love getting to try new and different bikes but unless I could resell my current GPX for a very good price, I don't think it would make sense.
Also, if the new 300 doesn't have the oil injection that's a big miss for me personally. I love being able to just gas up and go ride. I only put oil in mine bike once every 2 or 3 rides and it usually doesn't really need it yet.
Thirdly, I plated my bike to be street legal (here in the U.S.) initially when I first titled the bike when it was new. My wife and I like to ride the mountains in Colorado on vacations and we have to have "street legal" bikes to ride the gravel roads connecting different trails so having the oil injection makes it that much easier for me to just gas up and go when exploring.
It is really tempting to look into the newer 300 version still lol.
@@dracer35 that makes total sense, for hassle free riding where you can easily burn through multiple tanks of gas then oil injection makes total sense.
Also it's great to here even after so much time you still like your 250. Have you had any reliability issues at all?
Regardless of the bike you have it's always exciting and tempting to be looking at other bikes 😁
@@ILikeMotorbikes I did have to initially go back over all the bolts on the bike after the first ride to tighten a few that had worked themselves loose including the nut for the Kickstarter that got lost somewhere along the trail. Luckily the Kickstarter made it back to the truck with me lol. I don't really fault GPX for this since I've had other new bikes included Kawasaki and Yamaha that had the exact same thing happen. Definitely wouldn't hurt to add a touch of blue loctite on the steel threaded parts as needed.
Glad this video popped up I was looking for a video like this, instant like from me!
Thanks very much, hope you found it useful
The key is a HUGE deal for me. My only complaint with the European Enduro bikes is that I'd have to lock my butt to the seat instead of being able to walk in to the fuel station for a snack. Excellent execution of your script, my good man; you've done us a solid favor.
Thanks for the kind words Tyler. Totally agree that the key ignition is a great addition for that peace of mind!
You can wire a key up to any bike easily and it's cheap too
you can let the key on the bike. nobody steal chinese garbage. good ride with your key!!! ha ha ha
I say this everytime....... you deserve more subs!! honestly though i really enjoy your videos, motivates me to do more! also shout out to the camera guy climbing up in the trees! dedication hahahaa
haha whatever it takes to get the shot!
Thanks so much man! Really appreciate comments like this... Yeah Rich worked hard to get the best shots 😁
Thanks for sharing - great Job!
Thanks for the kind words, glad you liked it 👍
Brilliant video mate!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
Well done!
Well done mate great video
Cheers Tom, thanks for the kind words
WOW! what freaking awesome production and presentation on this video, maybe the new logo has something to do with it!? But honestly, this a very high quality, love the leaf effects too 🍂🍂 Well done Tom.
I’m not really a 2 stroke fan, but I’d deffo give this a ride! 👊🏻
Cheers Jake! Really appreciate the kind words. I reckon a fresh logo helped for sure 👊
Go commie lover.!
Been wondering about these bikes, that you for doing this video.
My pleasure, I hope it helped and you enjoyed it
Excellent video well done young sir
Thanks Robert! Though I can't take the credit for the video quality, that's down to the cameraman and editing!
Great review sir 👏
Thanks Bob!
Great video. Nice bike. 👍
Thanks for the kind words
Just stumbled across these bikes, your review was great. They certainly can’t be ignored for the price!
Thanks for the kind words. Agree its hard to look over them for the value
Great production with the video. I would love to see the bike tested in normal enduro conditions though. I think every bike seems pretty good in soft leafy loam 2 track 😀
Thanks for the kind words! Totally agree I'd have preferred a proper place to test the bike but sadly it wasn't an option.
James, the importer of the GPX bikes in the UK is riding one at enduro events in the UK nad has been pretty successful so far, you can find all his info on the GPX Enduro Moto Uk Facebook page.
Fingers crossed I get to ride the 300cc 2 stroke at a proper track when it arrives 🤞
I will be making a video of my Chinese bike in a race. Mine isn't the same name as this but it look like the same factory made them. I won't mention the name here out of respect to GPX. But I've looked it over and the quality is there. Good welds great manufactured parts, but mine is an actual 249cc 2 stroke. I'll be racing amateur over 59 class in Texas later this year as I get use to the bikes again. But I think I can take them even with my 2000 dollar Chinese bike with a 4 stroke.
Bought GPX because of this awesome review! Tnx also to @Everide!
That's amazing to hear, thanks so much! Really hope you enjoy your new bike and get lots of riding on it 😁
Would love to see and hear moore of those in sweden !!!💪💪
My GPX arrived broken out of the crate.... Once I got that sorted out, the bike only lasted a couple months of hard riding before multiple issues started popping up, which kept the bike down for months. While it was down I went nuts trying to find information and parts.
The ignition switch was one of the first things to go....
That's interesting... Was that a 2021 tse 250?
I've not heard any other reports of issues like that. Are you UK or US based?
@@ILikeMotorbikes I'm in the US and my bike was a 2019 FSE250 R. I realize I probably got a worse lemon than most GPXs. But it doesn't change the fact that GPXs are a decent frame and engine wrapped in cheap, poorly copied Chinese junk.... Trust me, a GPX buyer is not getting a KTM at half price....
@@painsrides3616 for sure I don't think they are getting a KTM at half the price but the value overall seems reasonable. In the UK there is 6 months warranty which would take care of plenty and still leave you with change... No manufacturer is perfect but I just think GPX are offering a good alternative
Anyway I hope you got your GPX sorted or have a different bike that is now reliable 👍
@@ILikeMotorbikes The GPX is long gone and I ride a Husky TE250 that serves me very well.
As for the value of a GPX. Hmm...These bikes are not 1/2 the cost of a KTM for nothing, the cost savings is in materials and production quality, things that save the buyer money at the sale but will cost dearly on the user end..... Frustration, aggravation and lost ride time included...
These bikes are awful. Straight up garbage and for a few grand more you can’t get something that’s tried and true and will last you years
Good review!
Thanks for the kind words, glad you liked it
Sweet 🤘🏻
Thanks 😁✌️
Nice set of riding gear Tom, no hiding in the bushes when the plod come and nick you for riding in the woods! I bought a Husky TE300 2015 with 16 hours on it for five grand, three years ago. Time will tell if the Orientals can convince us the products they build are fit for purpose, whatever the price? Keep up to good work.
Haha cheers Graham! Luckily I'm not one for getting myself into trouble so hopefully no hiding necessary... Its more so I can be found in the bushes when I've looped myself into oblivion 🤣
Sounds like you got a bargain! Prices seem to have gone up considerably and when you take into account some previous owners don't take good care of their bikes, it means bikes like this are a really attractive option.
Nice one Tom! (& Rich!)
Thanks Ellie 😁
Thanks Ellie Boo Belly!
I've heard from KTM guys that the KTM frames are manufactured in China along with many other KTM components, shipped to Austria, and then assembled with the rest of the Austrian manufactured components into complete bikes, then exported. A global market is every where.
It wouldn't surprise me, so many things are manufactured in China now including some BMW road bike engines!
There are specifications that need to be adhered to though. Not like this sort of bike. Have shit welds on the frame? Oh well.
I agree that is vary possible, and maybe more 🤔
Good review. I'd be interested in the 250 4stroke for greenlaning, when it comes over.
Will see what I can do! The US Facebook page is really active though if you want to take a look
That's the one I'm going to order, the four stroke 250. I saw one at a motosports shop two weeks ago in Amarillo, Tx.. At first I thought it was some new European brand, they look that good in real life. But I didn't buy it from that dealer. It's much cheaper to just order it from the distributor in Utah.
Bought one today 🤙🏼
Nice work Ben 👍 wishing you many happy rides on it. What a Christmas present to yourself 😁
The rear shock has 2 settings for the lower bolt - for 2 ride heights and slide the forks up to suit .
Thanks!
Thank you!
What makes me scratching my head is, how do I get spare parts and accessories like rad guards and stuff for such a niche product? There isn't even an importer over here....
Great bikes, that grey is sharp. To be honest and fair to who is interested, they are 273lbs wet without the dual sport equipment and closer to 30hp.
At $6500 or so ? I’ll stick with my Yamaha’s. I bet my 86’ IT 200 would eat it alive.
Where can I get one in the states?
How do you get parts
Can you do a review on the kayo T2 pro 250 4stroke ?
Could be quite a solid trailer , they look very good! Cheers.
Yeah definitely something for trails or some practice days. I think at the highest level of racing it wouldn't cut it but there are a few in the UK being raced at club level so it has potential
Wonder how long before in snaps andna like the exhaust tho I'd love to see a pro doing big jumps on this
Nice review it's a good bike I tried it here in the Philippines thumbs up new subscriber here
Thanks for the kind words and for the sub! What did you like and dislike about the bike when you tried it?
@@ILikeMotorbikes last year July 2021 we launch that bike named it MPX it's on the market here in the Philippines,I was part of the team as sales & marketing but unfortunately quit after a few months..what I like is the wide ratio transmission
@@psychopatrick interesting I hadn't heard of that - is it basically the same bike as the GPX?
@@ILikeMotorbikes yes its the same bike as GPX hengjian in china,unlike in the U.S it's only GPX as the dealership here in the Philippines its an open market there's a few who import and sell the BIKES
@@psychopatrick awesome thanks for letting me know, every day is a school day!
this bike has similarities in spare parts like KTM also...hope in the future this model will came out to Malaysia here..so we could have another choice of enduro bikes 😊💯
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Very good review. Can you comment on the width of the motor ? It looks a little wide on the video and I was wondering if it interfered with braking and / or shifting when one wears off road motorcycle boots. Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
Hi Conrad, thanks for the kind words. I've ridden a fair few off road or enduro bikes and this was the same in that I never had an issue, even with my MX boots in getting to the gear lever or the brake lever. Hope that answers your question
For people interested in these, I have a kayo kt250 equivalent. they have a ktm style frame, plastics and similar tank. The air box is a direct clone of a ktm air box. Yamaha dt230 cloned engine. Many of the parts are interchangeable. The suspension is crf450 cloned. The wheels are interchangeable with a specific year of crf250. They are good, fairly fast, and seemingly reliable machines. The suspension is a little soft but fully adjustable and there are people who can revalve them. If you buy the kayo you’ll save money but you’ll want to upgrade the pipe and reeds for the full power capabilities. Like those two mods make an insane difference on power. These things lug for days. If you need parts you don’t have to source them from China, you can buy the name brand equivalent from a ktm, Honda, or Yamaha. Also the dealer can get all the parts.
I'd have one!
Personally I'd buy a used KTM or husky or even a yz250x over a gpx
Every one would genius 😂 not everyone has 8-12k to blow on a toy 😂
Excellent review! After owning more than 20 KTM’s, I now ride a GPX….
Thanks for the positivity 🙌 that just shows how capable a bike it is if it can turn you away from them!
Why
@@thatfast3002 yeah thats my question, why?
I dont think the quality is there in a chinese bike. Ill stick with yamaha and ktm.
Sounds like a fake comment
@@bve7397I own 4 ktms 2020-2022 and they’re fuckin amazing but I also own these as beat up drill bikes and they’re the tits. If you can’t work on a bike or wrench on one then you don’t belong on a bike anyways. Simple maintenance and common sense and these bikes are reliable and quality for the money you’re paying. I can get a fuck around street legal dirtbike for 4K starting where with any street legal ktm I’m looking at least at 10k. I have Hondas and every other bike as well. These aren’t bad at all.
You are correct my brother always say Honda’s and Kawasaki are the best but like you said you have to ride it first to feel how the bike runs
Absolutely, you have to ride a bike to be able to give a fair comment on it. Thanks for the kind words 😊
Funny how people keep saying they would stick with ktm Yamaha etc. Reality is if people could afford to buy them they would. Id rather brand new vs used with unknown issues l. Parts availability lol i waited months for a crf 300l clutch lever & 6 months for the plastics. Every first gen bike will have issues with parts if you are one of the first people to own one. Quality control is my concerns (I've bought x50+ bikes in the last 2years, so I have an idea what I'm talking about)
You speak a lot of sense! Agree with a lot of what you said.
Reality is these are 50-60% of the cost of an equivalent big name manufacturer yet perform almost as well.
Good review 👍 it's a tempting price but I wouldn't trust it to last more than a year. Can you do an update in a year's time please
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 👍 Will certainly try and follow up with the importer. The importer is planning to race one (and has done one already) all through 2022 including redbull's sea to sky race... I'll see what I can do to follow up for you
They've been out since 2019 many have over 200hrs on stock topend. Myself I had around 140 on mine before I cold seized it. Not bikes fault. They are a solid bike.
@@bobbyratliff3349 How do you know there doing 200hrs?
Nice pipe!
Is it any good , I had 4 Yamaha DT125R in the 90s , are they as good as a good Yamaha DTR
Arguably it's very good. It's definitely got a few minor niggles but overall it's a very capable bike and far better in many regards than bikes of the 90s. The chassis, suspension and brakes all being stand out items on this bike.
The importer has raced them at some of the hardest enduro venues in the UK and the bike has been more than capable at finishing events and even completed a 24hr enduro! Hope that gives you some idea of their calibre
I'd like to know whats the situation on the typical consumables like bearings, air filter, rings, piston, etc etc. can you just buy yamaha parts ?
So in the UK GPX Moto have a vast stock of spares to help with servicing. For the motor i'm not sure if you can go to Yamaha but for the other cycle parts (brake pads, wheel bearings etc) many KTM parts fit and cross over
good job sir
Thank you 🙌
Interesting review, I suppose the main downdides would be how long the parts last, availability of parts and resale value (if you didn't plan to keep it)
That's certainly a consideration. The parts availability I'm told shouldn't be an issue as there will be a UK stock of spares too. I'm not convinced the longevity of many parts will be an issue in reality, there is a huge following in the US for these bikes and over the last 3 years plenty of people have taken the choice to have one and parts not lasting, hasn't been something I've read during my research. Can't comment on resale value but it's a valid point for sure 👍
And knowing they are built by commie slave labor. In plants where they basically work their staff to ☠️
Yeah that’s great 👍 Here in America we call that bull 💩 !!
@@johnberry2877 So shall we put you down for a maybe on the GPX?
@@johnberry2877 atleast they don't have school shootings...
@@alexskelton3331 Neither does the US have school shootings. Every US school/other mass shooting you've seen covered heavily by the MSM were manufactured/scripted propaganda in which nobody really died.
Removing the oil pump to save 1lb seems urmmm, Is it possible to get the oil pump and tank off an older model and fit to this?
I guess it depends on your outlook but I get why it's useful for some! I can't answer that question but if you visit the Facebook group for the GPX Moto in the US I'm sure they will be able to answer the question 👍
Pretty clean bike
They're certainly a looker aren't they?
Are the gpx tse 250 and thumpstar tsn 250 the same ?
I can't say for sure but they look mighty similar after my brief look after seeing your comment! Engine at least looks identical
Mileage?
Great review! Give us a video testing the SSR-300 (Originally BSE).
I'd love too... I can't promise anything but I'll see what I can do
What about as a second bike? On a '22 DRZ400S atm. Had a '03 RM125 and a slew of street bikes. Worth it? There's a local dealer not 8 miles from me (parts n such hence why Im here looking) and they cost less than a YT Decoy.
Having ridden a few DRZs I'd say this is a great second bike! Much more focused for enduro riding than a DRZ which is better for trails and true dual sport riding in my opinion. Awesome having a dealer so close too! Get a test ride on one to confirm I'd say
@@ILikeMotorbikes Perf', thanks!
i'd have one!!
Two main questions everyone has when it comes to Chinese bikes never seem to get addressed in reviews. 1: reliability/longevity 2: parts availability
I will never pay for a Chinese bike until a review proves to me these are not an issue.
It's always hard to assess reliability and longevity in a morning of riding though.
This very bike is being raced by the importer, James Brown, and you can find the link to the Facebook page on the description. No failures beyond fall damage so far.
Also he is importing plenty of spares with bikes so there should be 100% UK dealer stock of parts.
Alternatively there are many parts from the KTM exc range which are a direct fit so I don't believe you'll have issues with finding replacement parts for this bike. I can't comment for other brands but certainly GPX seem to have it figured out
that headlight looks exactly like the ktm headlights..... they should design their own
Do u recommend to take it on hard enduro and will it survive roof of Africa
It's hard to say but I know this bike completed the 24 hour dawn to dusk enduro so it can certainly take some abuse! I don't see any reason why it would be any worse than any other manufacturer
I was reading that the new tse300l and tse300r don't have the electric power valve and some have speculated they they wanna copy ktm's hyper injection
Very interesting! I hadn't read that but trying to copy one of the world leaders in enduro bikes isn't the worst thing they could do....
Why not put power bands in instead of power valves so it basically is a knocknoff dtr 225 and dont jusyngo for looks
Do you think that power bands are an actual physical thing?
Will it pass the USA emissions test?
That I don't know as I think it varies state to state doesn't it? My knowledge of US emissions is slim but there is a huge Facebook following in the US for these bikes and plenty of owners over there. I suggest asking those folks on that forum, just search GPX moto/pitster Pro on Facebook or get in contact with USA motor toys who build the bike and they should be able to answer 👍
I'm struggling between this bike and a yz250x.
Tricky decision to make. I guess it will boil down to cost and your appetite for resale value (which may depend on how long you plan on keeping the bike)
Try and get a ride on both is my only suggestion.
I would definitely like to review one of these bikes. I would put this machine through all the stuff I normally ride and even get a lot of my riding buddies that are A riders to give it a spin. Sadly, I don't think GPX would consider me a big enough channel to give it a go.
Whats the premix ratio? 50:1??
Yes 50:1 on this
@@ILikeMotorbikes Cheers thanks!
If it's anything like the DT 230 lanza they are on too a winner
That's exactly the engine it's based upon!
@@ILikeMotorbikesdid you buy one in the end & how's it holding up if so. I'd definitely change out the switch gear for some OEM style one's but over all definitely a good starting platform for anyone
@officialmysteriousrider130 I didn't buy one as I didn't have budget for one. There's a few I know who purchased them and they seem to be doing well and have completed some prestigious events so they must be alright
I’ll be happy with a 1.5 kilo more and keep the oil pump
So its a 230 lanza engine
These are £5--6k new. I'll take a couple of years old Yamaha for the same price over an unknown Chinese copy with no warranty.
Yamaha ktm Honda Suzuki Kawasaki and any other dirtbike NEVER comes with a warranty 😂
@@chrisvillarreal2752 still garbage
A two year old Yamaha two stroke enduro bike?
@@chrisvillarreal2752 they don't need a warranty, they are proven.
@@TheArchitect216 bahahahahhaha how many bikes have you owned 😂
You mention they keep improving the bikes as time goes on which is true but the price also increases with those upgrades and now they are more expensive than used good name brand bikes which takes away from the "value" you get from gpx imo. In other words, if you can get a used name brand bike for equal price or less than a gpx, you would be better off getting the used bike.
I totally see your point but as the price of the GPX rises, so does every other manufacturer so it stays about the same for the gap between them and this. I think rather than saying this is a worse option or a better option what is great, is that people do now have the option! It's an opportunity to make a choice that wasn't available previously and that is only a good thing for the sport in my opinion
@@ILikeMotorbikes fair enough!
Definitely not built “under license” but looks a good bike but parts availability will be an issue unless you can find out what parts are interchangeable with “mainstream” models
If you live in the U.S. you can just order parts from their distributor in Utah.
@@trevorjameson3213 Fine if you live in the US but too much hassle getting parts anywhere else
What's the top speed on this?
Top speed is unknown but depending on gearing it's likely to be between 60-85mph
That bike is most demand here in Philippines.
It is proving to be a really popular bike!
@@ILikeMotorbikes yea, bcoz of the price cheap than branded and the quality is good also even if china made 😁
The overall performance of that Motor isnt close to the current standard of Yamaha, Beta, KTM Group and Sherco 250s. Ive seen plenty reviews and most do say its not close to the more expensive brands. You are paying less cash for less bike. Its good for what it is. But its not comparable yet. Maybe in the future
Yeah it isn't on par with a ktm 250 exc but feels a lot like my old KTM 200exc which was still plenty of bike. I think it's a great option as nothing else is as good for the money in my opinion
There are a lot of these from China now 250 and 300 two strokes I have looked at at least five from China.
They really need to recast that clutch cover so that you don't have to remove that entire side of the case.
That would be nice, and they may improve later and include that. I rode an XR250R for many years and it didn't have a separate clutch cover either, had to remove the entire side cover.
I think it's the same bike as Kamax mt250
It's a shame they didn't get the YZ engine on licence the DTR is quite a bit less motor
I imagine because it's not totally suitable for a road legal enduro bike sadly. Look at any enduro vs MX engine and the enduro version makes a broader spread of power. Just the way of the world
@@ILikeMotorbikes it's probably just down to cost the dtr licence was probably alot cheaper than the yz, the yz 250 x is basically a a softer mor flexible tune with wider ratio box that engine would have put the gpx straight up with ktm,beta etc. Maybe yamaha didn't want them to have through competition
No Japanese manufacturers are going to licence out design patents on a new tech design that is still in current production and only outdated lower tech designs are sold to the Chinese manufacturers. The tech of today also requires materials of a higher spec thought areas in the motors and run under higher stresses and require more maintenance. The idea is to keep manufacturing costs along with materials costs down to keep the price point and profit margins within reason. Besides if the engines are pitting out more power then the rest of the bike also needs to be built to handle that power and build spec for the rest of the bike will also go up. I build engines for Dirtbikes for a living and there is good reason why NO chinese parts are allowed to go into any of the Japanese motors I build. The metallurgy of the metals are not the same(yet).
1 grand more and u can have a proper bike like the WR250F
A quick Google suggest the 2022 WR250F is at least £7k if not 7700...thats a good wedge more than the GPX!
@@ILikeMotorbikes noted, however i got my brand new 2021 for around £5400 earlier this year outside of the UK.
@@nickovdub6131 crikey! That's an absolute bargain, I can see why you went for that in that case. Good on you for finding such a deal 👍
And know it was not built by slave labor !! 🇯🇵👍
Yaha or Suzuki motor? This or kayo or Orion?
Based on a Yamaha engine made under licence
1:01 developed or ripped off…?
Nothing but issues with my 2021 TSE250R since I got it brand new. Also good luck trying to sell it. Nobody wants a used Chinese bike and you have to sell them for half of what you paid new.
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Engine hp?
I say in the review, around 1:30 into the video. Approx 38hp
nice one tom 🤣
Cheers Timmi
Electric power valve on my 04 cr125 is not so good. LOL neither were the cr250s with them. This is coming from a top notch company . Glory years for the cr125 was the 1980s and 1990s up until 1997 engine wise
Would of made it alot easier for me to forget my silly plan if you had said it was poo. Cheers enjoyed 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Go on... What's this plan? 😁
@@ILikeMotorbikes a bike like the gpx for panning trips 💪😁 I'm lazy
@@ScotlandsGold haha excellent! I love the justification for buying a bike 😁 if the choice is to buy a bike or not buy a bike... Well you know what I'm likely to say...
Look forward to seeing you on a GPX 😁👍
@@ILikeMotorbikes lol nailed it! see u on the next one✌️
@@ScotlandsGold haha absolutely! Cheers, take it easy ✌️
The majority of parts used to make all the well known enduro bikes, are Chinese made. Some trials bikes are wholly Chinese, other than the tyres. Not sure if thats widely known or not?
It's definitely not widely known I'd say, it's well marketed I think and hidden from the consumers view I'd imagine. Doesn't surprise me that some trials bikes are wholly Chinese though. The Chinese manufacturers are building BMW engines amongst others that are renown for quality!
@@ILikeMotorbikes I heard about Chinese manufacturing most of the well known off-road bikes, a few years back from a company who supplied Gas Gas.
No reason at all why Chinese made parts, shouldn't be very good, its the unit cost chiselling which results in dubious quality.
@@humourless682 that and low quality control. The factories can likely produce high quality but its a fight between quality and penny pinching usually!
@@ILikeMotorbikes Yes I guess so. Can remember taking to the manager of a WEC team, whose next year's bike was all Chinese. A good deal of whining about all the failures, happening during testing, but very diplomatic reaction, when I asked if this had anything to do the Chinese parts.................
@@humourless682 very interesting! I think overall the Chinese manufacturers get a bad press... Because that's what people shout about the most! All of our electronics and plenty of other things besides are made in China but people aren't telling you that their phone still works everyday are they?
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Subjective saying cheap at 5-6K … I would agree with another guy, secondhand Japanese or Euro bike
This engine is a yamaha's dt lanza 230 copy .....yz250 is real power more hp
You get what you pay for but it is interesting for a Chinese bike
Chinese bikes are getting better and better I don't think that's a phrase that will be able to be used in the very near future
I've been riding Motocross and dirt bikes my whole life, every since the early 80's and none of my bikes has ever had a kickstand! If you ride dirt bikes on trails and jumps, and you have a kickstand, then you're asking for trouble, because one day it's going to come down and cause you to crash, mark my words!
I understand your point but I disagree - hundreds, if not thousands of enduro bikes now come with a kickstand and these GPX bikes, as well as KTMs have a little securing loop for stopping exactly what you describe.
@@ILikeMotorbikes Well, if there's something to prevent the kickstand from coming down when your jumping, then
Ah... I like my kick stand. Thanks.
Bike looks good but let’s be real this bike will be getting passed by 125s from ktm husky Yamaha and even the older 125s like Kawasaki Honda and Suzuki
Realistically this isn't a competition bike like those you list, it's much more aimed at dual sport riders I think but has the ability to be raced (and is being raced) for those that are at the entry level of the enduro scene and for everyone except perhaps experts. A good rider on this wont be passed b a bad rider on an equivalent KTM/Husky etc
The display is 100% better that the ktm crap,all my friend has ktm,and all the displays are broke😂😂😂
I know the feeling... Owned a KTM with a semi broken display 😂
I m not against chinese products.
But copy the labor of other brans is unfair, wen the tey have to invest a lot o money in development for other take the credits.
Japanese as fast as the other brand and it’s cheaper fuck it
Get some super moto wheels and it'll be ready for street.
Yep... They're even an option on this bike from GPX! I think they were around $700 to order