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Philippines joined the Club for Indonesia with Prabowo Subianto, although few Filipino companies are invested in Indonesia and some Indonesian companies invested in Calabarzon except in Eastern Quezon(Bondoc Peninsula) 😊😊 As Prabowo Subiano took office by Sunday, Calabarzon is very supportive the President of Indonesia because they respect and our region loved Indonesia like me in culture, people and of course, beauty pageants 😊😊 Yeah, I’m from Calamba City, and I love Indonesia because I want to meet Indonesian as friends and learning Indonesian culture so with all my heart, I hope to see you in Indonesia soon 😊😊 Next month, Philippines and Indonesia will celebrate it’s 75 Years of Diplomatic Relations of two countries 😊😊 Greetings from Calamba City, Laguna in the Philippines 🇵🇭💕🇮🇩
Ketika majalah terbesar dan berpengaruh seperti ( TIME ) Membicarakan apa langkah selanjutnya Indonesian sebagai ekonomi besar baru di asia baik geopolitik ekonomi dan presiden Prabowo? Prabowo menjawab : Kami menghargai semua kekuatan besar kami tahu Tiongkok peradaban yg kuat dan kami tahu Amerika memiliki kekuatan besar,namun sering kali berbuat kesalahan .. mereka lupa teman baik mereka sebenarnya . Tetapi aku selalu menempatkan kepentingan rakyat ku lebih dulu "..
Sadar gak itulah prestasi Jokowi 10 tahun terakhir bikin nama Indonesia kembali diperhitungkan d kancah Internasional. Dulu mah boro2 masuk Time Magazine masuk artikel channel berita biasa aja enggak. Krn dulu kita gak diperhatikan. Skrg beda, setiap langkah kita dicermati pihak luar tentu ada konsekuensinya skrg, bakal lebih sering dikritik bhkn diserang. Mudah2n pak Prabowo tetap konsekuen dg prinsip politik bebas aktif yg dicanangkan bapak2 bangsa kita.
@@harukrentz435 bicara era dulu mah gak usah jauh2 ke global. Sama jiran aja kita sering jadi bulan2an. Sekarang 180 derajat situasinya. Yg masih bersisa dari jiran tinggal claim habitnya aja. 😂
@@denny.dagger wkwkwk gw inget zaman SBY kapal perang Malaysia msh suka nyelonong masuk perairan kita. Pnh juga pepet2an sma kapal perang kita. Blm lg zaman SBY kita pnh disadap australia. 🤣 pantes mrka lbh senang saat itu 🤣
semua negara tidak akan pernah bisa netral bahkan swiss aja pas pd2 walaupun netral tetep sedikit berpihak ke sekutu walaupun ada konflik kecil juga...
Lambat laun kerja baru dan mindset baru orang Indonesia sudah berubah Dengan sendirinya kami ingin menatap Indonesian maju sejahtera dan damai di Nusantara Indonesia. Indonesia selalu berkerja sama dengan siapapun selagi saling menguntungkan
Nenek moyang kita bukan chinese Taiwan yang datang dari mainland China, tapi native/pribumi asli Taiwan yang sama2 ras Austronesia. Wajah dan warna kulitnya persis sama dengan kita
Taiwan can build their semiconductor factories here in Indonesia for backup in case of tension with PRC. Indonesia is a relatively neutral country, a safe place for taiwan’s semiconductor manufacturers. Indonesia also have the raw materials needed for the Industry. The location also strategic for shipping to any continents in the world
While it is true that Jakarta is sinking due to climate change, the main reason the sinking goes considerably fast is because of the excessive extraction of groundwater, coupled with the intense weight of major buildings on top of the land. Climate change adds salt to the wound, true, but this factor alone could've been mitigated by more feasible, alternative means had the land not sunk out of its own weight.
because power, wealth, and consequently money for living is too concentrated in Jakarta. The fundamental reason it's literally sinking is because the rich like to stay huddled among themselves there.
24:25. Indonesia tidak tunduk pada Tiongkok. Indonesia bekerjasama dengan negara manapun secara setara dan saling menghormati. Jauh sebelum HSR KCIC itu ada, Indonesia bahkan secara berani mengubah laut yang di claim Tiongkok itu menjadi Laut Natuna Utara. Dan Jokowi secara berani berkunjung langsung ke perairan Natuna dengan kapal perang. Kedaulatan adalah harga mati bagi semua negara.
betul tapi dalam geopolitik itu punya sponsor utama.. Dan sponsor utama saat ini china rusia. Dan itu tepat, karena kita selalu ingin lepas dari amerika, tambang2 yang dikelola amerika. Hasilnya lihat agenda hilirisasi di protes siapa? WTO, IMF unieropa. Kebanyakan mereka2 kulit putih dan sekutu amerika. Mau liat siapa sponsornya setiap pemilu? Presiden terpilih selalu berkunjung ke negara yang jadi sponsor utama. Baik jokowi prabowo atau presiden2 terdahulu. Amerika sejak 2014 keok di asia. Indonesia lebih cocok condong ke china rusia dibanding amerika. Amrika dr jaman kemerdekaan selalu ikut campur dalam setiap sendi politik. g30spki, lengsernya sukarno, naiknya suharto jadi presiden, bergabungnya papua ke indonesia, lepasnya timor leste, krisis moneter dan lengsernya suharto. Semua ada campur tangan amerika. Setiap ada amerika pasti ada kekacauan. Kedepan musuh indonesia itu jelas Amerika australia inggris jepang dan singapore. AUKUS sudah dibentuk dan mereka ngga segan2 untuk mengkontrol asia, layaknya NATO. Perang ukraina rusia bisa diduplikasi oleh amerika dan sekutu. Karena mereka ingin menguasai asia, karena sumber daya alamnya asia itu sangat berlimpah. Mereka ngga suka hlirisasi, mereka ngga suka kepentingannya diusik.
Jgn terlalu polos Tong, luh pikir AS baik sama Indonesia? Proyek hilirisasi nickel saja dituduh ada kerja paksa, lambat laun akan dijegal karena AS ingin Indonesia menyerah dan memberikan bisnis seluruhnya ke dia
@@nawax000 emank ada gua bilang US?? yang gua bilang Indonesia berteman baik dan bekerjasama dengan semua negara lain secara adil dan setara. Itulah yang selama 10 tahun terakhir di lakukan Jokowi untuk Indonesia. Hubungan Indonesia baik sama Tiongkok, baik sama Rusia, baik sama US, baik sama Eropa dan Baik sama tetangga asean. Karena sbelum jokowi naik, Indonesia di perlakukan tidak adil dalam banyak kerjasama bussines oleh pemain pemain Eropa dan US.
@@nawax000Betul, Amerika dan Eropa pengen bahan mentahnya saja, China sanggup bangun smelter yg isinya banyak pekerja Indonesia, harga produk olahan juga jauh lebih besar, jadi ini adalah fair trade
After the official handover of the presidency and ministers on October 20, 2024, you can clearly see that President Prabowo focuses on Indonesia's defense: 1. Military Resilience by increasing the weapons budget, and the local defense industry for mass production of military equipment. 2. Energy Resilience by continuing the downstreaming program for nickel, copper, bauxite, iron, oil, and gas mining. 3. Food Resilience by creating 1 million hectare food estate in Papua and Kalimantan. 4. Civil Resilience by controlling the population, and a free meal program for school children to reduce stunting. 5. Digital Resilience by developing AI technology, building digital market and ecosystem.
It is nice hearing this insight from other Asia country, while some Indonesian keeps provoking negative narratives. Country without major etnics conflicts always better place to live for next generation. Proud of my lovely Indonesia, always knew it will be the next 'Macan Asia' ❤
Jakarta has been the center of economic activities since centuries ago, it will remain like that for the next centuries. Sinking is not a problem, there are plenty of highland just kilometers away southwards. There are tenth of millions of Jakarta's resident will still live there. In fact, large upscale district is being built on the coast of jakarta.
We Indonesian always be neutral to US and China. We have Non-Block Policy it's in our constitution cannot be change. We will cooperate with US, China and any other country as well, together we can make the world better.
Indonesia never really tried to be neutral to the US and China (or US-USSR back in the cold war). What it does in relation to the superpowers is hedging and balancing (this may appear as if it tries to be neutral, while it's not the intention), since the bipolarity of the world order and the stability of US-China relation is paramount to its security and development. Indonesia is not neutral country ala Switzerland. Its constitution, which mandates it to keep the world peace, and its "active and free" foreign policy lead it to the path of non-alignment since it believes that blocs or bloc-politics creates tension which leads to conflicts.
@@hitthedeck4115 netral .bukanya tidak punya kontrol..itu sama dengan kekonyolan kami bisa saja menjadi negara maju sejak awal sejajar rusia as tiongkok. .jika benar2 memihak karna kita punya segalanya dan punya harga tawar tapi tidak indonealdia lakukan.karna karakter bangsa kami ingin maju bersama..jikala ada merasa yg tidak baik di baiki oleh indonesia..tanya pada negara itu sendiri .pasti merka yg bermasalah..kami ingin maju bersama dan bersaing secara adil dan bijaksana
@@MiftakhulAndim-hy7sf That's what I call "hedging and balancing" (you may want to look those up). Indonesia doesn't have any policy to be neutral or a neutral state.
@@avorfm1964 kami bisa saja bersahabat dengan israil andai iarail ber itikad baik dwngan palestina namun sayangnya mreka adalah penjajah yg tidak berprikemanusiaan.yang dahulu di kasih hati oleh bangsa palestine kini merka memutarbalikan.atas nama bumi yang di janjikan d..alibi kemanusian
amazing. sometimes other people more understand us better than we do. So it is not surprising if there is common unfairness that can harm both parties. I think that's what we needs to be committed to. thus will creating a mutually beneficial paradigm.
Under the leadership of President Prabowo Subianto, Indonesia will become a country respected by the world through its economy and military strength. We believe that.
Taiwan and Indonesia actually have historical ties and racial ancestry, it is believed that most of the people of Indonesia are descended from areas in Taiwan. People in Indonesia really respect the Taiwanese people and the Chinese people and pray for the best for the settlement of the two countries. We are all still brothers and close relatives, may blood ties bring and direct us to unity and peace.
Its not Taiwanese Chin/ese but indigenous Taiwanese. And by the way, the Chi/nese have continue to discriminate against the indigenous in Taiwan WHICH IS OUR racial ties.
As an Indonesia i hope Mr. Prabowo to follow Mr. Jokowi's footsteps especially in the foreign relationship. The country has it own principle and whenever we violated it bad thing happen to us. Stay neutral, keep active. Be a good listener
Apapun kedepannya saya berharap INDONESIA lebih memilih bekerja sama seluruh negara di dunia. lebih mementingkan hubungan baik, ekonomi, budaya, yang saling menguntungkan ❤❤❤❤❤ salam damai dari INDONESIA. 🇮🇩🙏
TV Nasional Indonesia harus belajar cara pengamat dari Taiwan yang sangat tajam dan lebih detail terhadap kekuatan dan kelemahan Indonesia di mata dunia. Mereka tidak mencampuri pandangan yang tidak mendasar atau opini personal di dalam diskusinya. Jauh lebih menarik dibandingkan apa yang sedang dibahas di TV Nasional Indonesia.
Indonesia does have so much potential in terms of resources; natural, capital and human. But it does sometimes feel that we are so occupied and fought about with/for not so “important” matters. Feels like most of people in power deliberately make us stupid, in order to control us! By using media and those propaganda proposing that we have “problems” that if you think about it don’t really exist. I still believe that a proper educations should be Indonesian main priority in this. Lastly, talking about religions. Do you guys know that in Indonesia’s ID card that there’s this section about religions? I feel like somehow by doing this, we put ourselves in boxes and promote ethnocentrism, while our priority is to work together towards better future. I mean can we still call ourselves a country with an ideology of “Bhinneka Tunggal Ika” ?
Calm down. The religion section in our ID is just a way to adhere Pancasila. Many native tribes here still practice local religions that don't belong to our so-called "six recognized religions" and they can keep their religion section blank. I don't know what you mean by 'promote ethnocentrism' when Indonesia is not an ethnostate in the first place.
@@pogogod6036 The lack of official recognition is inherently stigmatising and deindigenising the indigenous populations- might as well call it colonialism.
While Indonesia has experienced impressive economic growth in recent years, there are still significant challenges that need to be addressed. One pressing issue is the persistence of poverty and inequality. Despite the country's abundant natural resources and a growing middle class, a substantial portion of the population continues to live below the poverty line. The government has implemented various programs to alleviate poverty, but more needs to be done to ensure that the benefits of economic growth are distributed more equitably. Additionally, the country's heavy reliance on commodity exports leaves it vulnerable to fluctuations in global commodity prices. To enhance economic resilience, Indonesia should diversify its export base and foster the development of more value-added industries.
And the second biggest of Indonesian diaspora abroad is in Netherlands, tf you mean 😂 You forgot that Indonesia didn’t exist yet at that time and many of local kingdoms and tribes sided with the Dutch during the colonial times. Dont compare us to a single-sided genocide, we fought for our own independence and we bear no hatred to the past 🖕
Netherland is the gate for Indonesian goods exported to Europe. Netherland is the only European country that Indonesian has direct flight to. These two facts already describe what kind of relation between two countries.
Tenang negara tetangga. Pak Prabowo itu selalu menganggap teman untuk semua negara. pelanggar hak azasi manusia itu sebenarnya netayahu dan Biden. Sehat selalu pak Prabowo. Semoga Allah aza wajalla memberi kemakmuran bagi bangsa Indonesia. Aamiin
Prabowo continued what Widodo has done, & his brother Chinese business is impact for him, prabowo will in this part of china, what i really predict he will did big project soon in papua. Hopefully im wrong.
now that you mentioned it, it really seems to be that way... makes me worried for my friends. you know there's been an education crisis in our country and my school has the short end of the stick with it especially. i'm incredibly blessed to be able to understand any of this at all, and it just pains me to know that they're wasting these youths and possibly dooming them to a life of generational poverty with how terrible they're treating the literal future of the nation.
Indonesia has abundant resources, gold, silver, oil, nickel, ect.. And also our land is very fertile, with abundant workers. It's not make sense if this country is poor. On the right hand leadership, this country is heading to prosperity and soon to be the 4th largest GDP.
Indonesia dari dahulu negara kaya raya, dan kapan saja indonesia bisa menjafi negara kaya raya, apabila negara kami menarik biaya pada selat penyebrangan yang ada di indonesia malaka dan sunda, tapi sampai saat ini indonesia masih mebebaskan biaya karna untuk kepentingan dunia🎉
Utk jaga jaga perang taiwan hrs byk infestasi keindonesia ato bangun pabrik disini indonesia sgt luas n negara netral......biar aset aset berharga tauwan jg aman klo terjd perang bsr dgn china daratan
There's two things not mentioned in this very fair discussion. One is that Prabowo is fluent in English which will make it far easier to promote Indonesia's interests worldwide. The second is Prabowo's promised effort to eradicate poverty in Indonesia. Included in this is his policy of free lunches and milk to every school child to tackle the problem of stunting and arrested development. I think his deputy Gibran Rakabuming has had a hand in this.
We Indonesian are always been neutral country just like our founding fathers want when their blood and tears fighting for independence. No worries on that its already in our blood as the decendant
Indonesia: it’s better to make friends and not foe. I think our last Foreign minister Retno Marsudi has been very good in representing Indonesia as nation that want to make friends with everyone garnering diplomatic ties as many as possible. Indonesia has been underdog, stay neutral, non-alignment, and avoid regional war. We definitely prioritize diplomacy, dialog, and not imperialism to acquire power in the world. Yes, there are many problem in Indonesia especially the hiccup in manufacturing industry that delay the potential national human resource development, rampant corruption, and neoliberalism which costs us to Oligarchy which result to the widening gap in social class as well as disproportionate development in Eastern Indonesia. I hope We as Indonesians are always guided to straight path to prioritize all people over few people.
ternyata tidak hanya pasang spanduk terima kasih disepanjang jalan di indo.. ternyata luar negeri digarap juga... tentu saja tdk dalam bentuk spanduk atau baliho2....
China has always been committed to bilateral peaceful development and peaceful exchanges. We are committed to not fighting or harming civilians in Myanmar's internal affairs and have never interfered in Myanmar's internal affairs.
go to Indonesia to open industry and make training schools for skilled workers, raw materials and human resources available, let's move forward together
With almost 300 million people, over 715 local languages, numerous ethnic groups, and a landmass as large as Europe, Indonesia is governed by a single president. It's high time for Indonesian netizens to position themselves as the older sibling and protect their younger ones. Remember, the South China Sea is heating up. After several powers have wreaked havoc in the Middle East, Europe, and the Korean Peninsula, it's time for Indonesia to help prevent conflict in the South China Sea. (War is profitable for weapons manufacturers). Long live Indonesia! (The blood of Indonesian fighters). It's become common for TH-camrs to increase their viewers by posting about Indonesia, and many foreigners are seeking Indonesian partners. (The balance of power from usa/west allies and china/east allies). The DNA of the Indonesian people is that of a warrior. They don't need conscription; they will willingly defend their country if provoked. There's a common saying, 'We are friendly, but if provoked, we can be crueler than the cruelest person (You are not fighting against the military, but against the entire Indonesian people)
Dear World, Indonesia is moving the Capital to Nusantara not only because Jakarta is sinking (It isn't in its entirety by the way, parts of it maybe). There are other ideological and developmental reasons.
tanpa bermaksud kasar dan tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat, kalian (taiwan) strategi pendekatan kalian salah besar, maksudku Amerika dan sekutunya tidak benar-benar peduli pada kalian walau kalian menjual nama "demokrasi" sekalipun, yang mereka peduli adalah bisnis dan ekosistem manufaktur semiconductor chip kalian. aku mengerti bahwa kalian tidak ingin di aneksasi oleh Tiongkok, tidak masalah, aku tidak ingin terlalu masuk kedalam masalah itu. yang jadi masalah adalah strategi kalian yg mendorong perang ke kawasan ini, ubahlah strategi perang militer itu ambil pendekatan cara lain jika ingin mendapat dukungan dari mitra kawasan asia, mungkin dengan investasi ataupun pertukaran budaya, terserah. ingat sejarah cold war : perang Korea , vietnam, irak vs iran, Afghanistan dan next Ukraina, amerika hanya menyedot sumberdaya uang kalian, tidak benar-benar peduli kepada kalian. disclaimer: aku tidak membela Tiongkok, Tiongkok juga melakukan kesalahan di masa lalu. poin utamanya adalah : dengan kekuatan militer dan mendorong perang itu hanya menjadi sia-sia, tidak ada yg menang, lihatlah warga Ukraina yang terlantar di banyak negara, lihatlah presiden mereka yang mengemis kemana-mana. apakah masa depan seperti itu yang kalian pilih?
100% agree. The US has their chance with Ukraine. Had they gave 100 F35 to Ukraine and unlimited commitment like they didn’t israel, they would retain a bit of credibility. Instead needs to beg for expired (albeit effective, compared to russians’) equipmentdespite fighting a full scale modern war whule israel gets all the newest stuff for free. If they threw europeans under the bus, what will they do to asians who they joked about killing so much? US government is 100% compromised by the jewish lobby, their foreign interest is israel first. Current events proved this is no longer an exaggeration
Taiwan bukan Ukraina, tidak ada orang Taiwan yang mau perang dengan China demikian juga tidak ada orang China yang mau perang dengan Taiwan. Orang Taiwan tidak bodoh demikian juga orang China ga bego bego amat terprovokasi. Kondisi memang tegang tapi Amerika tidak akan pernah bisa "memaksakan" perang antara China dan Taiwan. Konflik akan dimulai dari Korea (utara dengan selatan) dan perang antara China dan Taiwan hanya akan terjadi ketika China menganeksasi lokasi lokasi strategis Taiwan yang "dikuasai" amerika. Tambahan : perbedaan antara Rusia-Ukraina dengan China-Taiwan adalah soal sosio kultural. Orang "Chinese" masih menekankan kepada warisan budaya dan kultural, penghormatan terhadap nenek moyang dan sejarah pahit orang-orang "Chinese" sepanjang sejarah (perang saudara, kemiskinan, dijajah, diaspora, diskriminasi) membuat orang-orang "Chinese" cenderung saling membela sesamanya
@@maccheese8379 tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat. pernah denger Kuomintang nya Chiang Kai shek vs komunis nya Mao Zedong? the problem is, mereka adalah bapak pendiri bagi negaranya masing-masing, Amerika tentu ga bodoh juga tiba-tiba masuk ke sana kalau kedua negara tsb tanpa masalah.
@@bimantaraadityawarman1734 budaya dan mentalitas china itu bukan terbentuk waktu jaman mereka. Orang china sudah ribuan tahun mengalami perang saudara, dipermalukan eropa, jepang. Mereka (taiwan dan china) tidak akan pernah melakukan perang total. Tentara dan rakyat dari kedua tempat ini pasti akan melakukan penolakan. Yg akan terjadi maksimal adalah skirmish saja utk memperebutkan titik titik strategis. Beda 180° dengan korea (utara dan selatan) meski kemungkinan kalau perang pecah kebanyakan tentara korut akan membelot ke selatan.
@@maccheese8379 dengan analogi yang sama, Rusia Ukraina ga akan perang, induk mereka sebelum tsar Russia keluarga Romanov itu dari kiev kok, dan apa kenyataan nya? perang dunia ga pernah ada survei seseorang itu mau perang atau enggak, kalaupun ada semua pasti memilih ga perang, lha wong perang itu tentang membunuh atau dibunuh kok. perang itu mobilisasi, ga ada kata setuju atau enggak. that's why yg harus di kejer dan di desak itu pemimpin nya, karena semua hal terjadi berkat pemimpin itu sendiri.
I hope Indonesia continues its non-alignment policy, but what’s even more important right now is focusing on economic development. There are many areas that need improvement. The down streaming policy, particularly in the nickel industry, is a positive step, even though the majority of investment is currently dominated by China.
The relationship between Indonesia and China has nothing to do with Indonesia and Taiwan. We can be 'friends'-that’s how Indonesia maintains its relationships with both the US and Russia, despite the fact that the US and Russia have conflicts
Compared to Hong Kong and Macau and even Japan, Taiwan isn’t as accessible for us as Indonesian tourists as visiting can be quite complicated with the visa etc. So Fellow Indonesians, you might want to consider other destinations. Stay away from Taiwan.
cooperate between countries, for mutual benefit, not to harm one party, don't be like Apple, want to set up a factory, but want tax free for 50 years in indonesia, crazy
Clearly Indonesia has a singular focus on its position in Asia looking only to its northern aspect. It has almost no significant trade with one of its closest neighbours, Australia. Australia is a nation hugely rich in resources and technological know how, but with a very different culture. What it does have in common is that both are democracies. Both are medium powers. Both would be much more successful by collaborating more closely. Currently we have an unnecessarily massive ‘missed opportunity’. We need to reach out on a broad spectrum with a view to take advantage of each others best abilities, resources and shared opportunities for mutual benefit. Bilateral economic bonds. Bilateral security (military) bonds. It’s time to make genuine friends with our neighbours.
@@noefvon I would be careful not to overestimate the importance of the agreement signed at that time. It was a good beginning . . But a pact? More a letter of intent by both parties to cooperate. Hopefully the two nations will draw closer in time.
No offense but it's better to keep distance from Australia and Australians. Indonesia should only do the bare minimum in term of diplomacy for the sake of formality.
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Philippines joined the Club for Indonesia with Prabowo Subianto, although few Filipino companies are invested in Indonesia and some Indonesian companies invested in Calabarzon except in Eastern Quezon(Bondoc Peninsula) 😊😊
As Prabowo Subiano took office by Sunday, Calabarzon is very supportive the President of Indonesia because they respect and our region loved Indonesia like me in culture, people and of course, beauty pageants 😊😊
Yeah, I’m from Calamba City, and I love Indonesia because I want to meet Indonesian as friends and learning Indonesian culture so with all my heart, I hope to see you in Indonesia soon 😊😊
Next month, Philippines and Indonesia will celebrate it’s 75 Years of Diplomatic Relations of two countries 😊😊
Greetings from Calamba City, Laguna in the Philippines 🇵🇭💕🇮🇩
So you love beauty pageants, ha!
@@levitabacug3377 Yes I'm a fan of Indonesian Pageants since 2022 😊😊
Davao city businesses will benefit if they open a link to Nusantara ahead in opening the capital to the world as seen in the map
@@EMcC-pr6zx Yeah but not just Davao, also in Cotabato, General Santos, Pagadian and Zamboanga are benefitied in Nusantara since it’s location 😊😊
Nice brother we're allies even since 1963 maPHILindo 🇮🇩🇵🇭
Ketika majalah terbesar dan berpengaruh seperti ( TIME )
Membicarakan apa langkah selanjutnya Indonesian sebagai ekonomi besar baru di asia baik geopolitik ekonomi dan presiden Prabowo?
Prabowo menjawab :
Kami menghargai semua kekuatan besar kami tahu Tiongkok peradaban yg kuat dan kami tahu Amerika memiliki kekuatan besar,namun sering kali berbuat kesalahan .. mereka lupa teman baik mereka sebenarnya .
Tetapi aku selalu menempatkan kepentingan rakyat ku lebih dulu "..
Sadar gak itulah prestasi Jokowi 10 tahun terakhir bikin nama Indonesia kembali diperhitungkan d kancah Internasional. Dulu mah boro2 masuk Time Magazine masuk artikel channel berita biasa aja enggak. Krn dulu kita gak diperhatikan. Skrg beda, setiap langkah kita dicermati pihak luar tentu ada konsekuensinya skrg, bakal lebih sering dikritik bhkn diserang. Mudah2n pak Prabowo tetap konsekuen dg prinsip politik bebas aktif yg dicanangkan bapak2 bangsa kita.
@@harukrentz435 bicara era dulu mah gak usah jauh2 ke global. Sama jiran aja kita sering jadi bulan2an.
Sekarang 180 derajat situasinya. Yg masih bersisa dari jiran tinggal claim habitnya aja.
😂
@@denny.dagger wkwkwk gw inget zaman SBY kapal perang Malaysia msh suka nyelonong masuk perairan kita. Pnh juga pepet2an sma kapal perang kita. Blm lg zaman SBY kita pnh disadap australia. 🤣 pantes mrka lbh senang saat itu 🤣
@@harukrentz435 NAH !!!
Yg istana presiden sampe bisa disadap itu epic sih.
Another level... 💀
@@denny.dagger dan masih ada yg bilang rindu era SBY😂😂
Stay neutral Prabowo. We don't need bombs in our backyard
Yess 😅
and yes, even the 3 presidents candidate back there was aiming to still natural .no one want to start picking side and make world power more unbalance
bebas aktif is not a neutral stance
semua negara tidak akan pernah bisa netral bahkan swiss aja pas pd2 walaupun netral tetep sedikit berpihak ke sekutu walaupun ada konflik kecil juga...
Staying neutral means everyone will attack you instead
Lambat laun kerja baru dan mindset baru orang Indonesia sudah berubah Dengan sendirinya kami ingin menatap Indonesian maju sejahtera dan damai di Nusantara Indonesia.
Indonesia selalu berkerja sama dengan siapapun selagi saling menguntungkan
Revolusi mental bang?
Pelan tapi pasti👍👍
@@imanafdar betul
Yang pasti harus ada benturan keras kepada rakyat Indonesia yang sudah hampir setengah abad belum memenuhi piagam kemerdekaannya.
Musuh besar Indonesia adalah mentalitas korupsi rakyat dan pejabat nya sendiri.
Sejujurnya, aku suka dgn Taiwan, karena mereka memanusiakan pekerja migran Indonesia...😍
Taukah anda, nenek moyang orang Indonesia berasal dari taiwan.. itu fakta berdasarkan penelitian valid
@@panurotomangkuwanito4728tidak semua area Indonesia om.... kalau area Sulawesi Utara kemungkinan iya....rata rata berkulit putih dan mirip chindo
Nenek moyang kita bukan chinese Taiwan yang datang dari mainland China, tapi native/pribumi asli Taiwan yang sama2 ras Austronesia. Wajah dan warna kulitnya persis sama dengan kita
tinggal test dna aja yang paketan udah banyak.. biar tau leluhur anda sendiri.. jangan menebar berita yang belum akurat pasti 99%
Bukti valid rata2 DNA orang Jawa lebih dari 66% Asia timur khusunya cina.. baca artikel jurnalnya banyak di internet
Taiwan can build their semiconductor factories here in Indonesia for backup in case of tension with PRC. Indonesia is a relatively neutral country, a safe place for taiwan’s semiconductor manufacturers. Indonesia also have the raw materials needed for the Industry. The location also strategic for shipping to any continents in the world
indonesia&taiwan ngk punya hub diplomatk
@@irasofia1158meski gapunya hubungan diplomatik secara resmi (karena mengakui satu china) tapi Indonesia punya hubungan ekonomi dengan taiwan
Kesulitan cari tenaga kerja yg handal dan terlalu banyak tuntutan 😂
fufufafa (gibran) is the best vice president in Indonesia❤🎉
Thats cute. But Indonesia dont have the facility or expertise for this. Thats why most semiconductor industries move to Malaysia or Singapore.
While it is true that Jakarta is sinking due to climate change, the main reason the sinking goes considerably fast is because of the excessive extraction of groundwater, coupled with the intense weight of major buildings on top of the land. Climate change adds salt to the wound, true, but this factor alone could've been mitigated by more feasible, alternative means had the land not sunk out of its own weight.
because power, wealth, and consequently money for living is too concentrated in Jakarta. The fundamental reason it's literally sinking is because the rich like to stay huddled among themselves there.
fufufafa (gibran) is the best vice president in Indonesia❤🎉
@@hikashia.halfiah3582 Just pay the Dutch to help us, they have the same problem in Amsterdam and are doing signifigantly better.
ada gunung yang bisa buat pmengisi
Indonesia semoga kedepannya jaya sentosa
AMIN!🤲🏼
Wow thank's Taiwan talks for this discussion and thank's to these two intelligent lady for the bright vision😍 love from indonesia🙏
24:25. Indonesia tidak tunduk pada Tiongkok. Indonesia bekerjasama dengan negara manapun secara setara dan saling menghormati.
Jauh sebelum HSR KCIC itu ada, Indonesia bahkan secara berani mengubah laut yang di claim Tiongkok itu menjadi Laut Natuna Utara. Dan Jokowi secara berani berkunjung langsung ke perairan Natuna dengan kapal perang.
Kedaulatan adalah harga mati bagi semua negara.
betul tapi dalam geopolitik itu punya sponsor utama.. Dan sponsor utama saat ini china rusia. Dan itu tepat, karena kita selalu ingin lepas dari amerika, tambang2 yang dikelola amerika.
Hasilnya lihat agenda hilirisasi di protes siapa? WTO, IMF unieropa. Kebanyakan mereka2 kulit putih dan sekutu amerika.
Mau liat siapa sponsornya setiap pemilu? Presiden terpilih selalu berkunjung ke negara yang jadi sponsor utama. Baik jokowi prabowo atau presiden2 terdahulu. Amerika sejak 2014 keok di asia. Indonesia lebih cocok condong ke china rusia dibanding amerika.
Amrika dr jaman kemerdekaan selalu ikut campur dalam setiap sendi politik. g30spki, lengsernya sukarno, naiknya suharto jadi presiden, bergabungnya papua ke indonesia, lepasnya timor leste, krisis moneter dan lengsernya suharto. Semua ada campur tangan amerika. Setiap ada amerika pasti ada kekacauan.
Kedepan musuh indonesia itu jelas Amerika australia inggris jepang dan singapore. AUKUS sudah dibentuk dan mereka ngga segan2 untuk mengkontrol asia, layaknya NATO.
Perang ukraina rusia bisa diduplikasi oleh amerika dan sekutu. Karena mereka ingin menguasai asia, karena sumber daya alamnya asia itu sangat berlimpah. Mereka ngga suka hlirisasi, mereka ngga suka kepentingannya diusik.
Jgn terlalu polos Tong, luh pikir AS baik sama Indonesia? Proyek hilirisasi nickel saja dituduh ada kerja paksa, lambat laun akan dijegal karena AS ingin Indonesia menyerah dan memberikan bisnis seluruhnya ke dia
@@nawax000 emank ada gua bilang US??
yang gua bilang Indonesia berteman baik dan bekerjasama dengan semua negara lain secara adil dan setara. Itulah yang selama 10 tahun terakhir di lakukan Jokowi untuk Indonesia.
Hubungan Indonesia baik sama Tiongkok, baik sama Rusia, baik sama US, baik sama Eropa dan Baik sama tetangga asean.
Karena sbelum jokowi naik, Indonesia di perlakukan tidak adil dalam banyak kerjasama bussines oleh pemain pemain Eropa dan US.
@@nawax000Betul, Amerika dan Eropa pengen bahan mentahnya saja, China sanggup bangun smelter yg isinya banyak pekerja Indonesia, harga produk olahan juga jauh lebih besar, jadi ini adalah fair trade
After the official handover of the presidency and ministers on October 20, 2024, you can clearly see that President Prabowo focuses on Indonesia's defense:
1. Military Resilience by increasing the weapons budget, and the local defense industry for mass production of military equipment.
2. Energy Resilience by continuing the downstreaming program for nickel, copper, bauxite, iron, oil, and gas mining.
3. Food Resilience by creating 1 million hectare food estate in Papua and Kalimantan.
4. Civil Resilience by controlling the population, and a free meal program for school children to reduce stunting.
5. Digital Resilience by developing AI technology, building digital market and ecosystem.
Appreciate to be able learn another point of view from another Asian countries. Thanks Taiwan Talks.
Sincerely, fr Indonesia❤
It is nice hearing this insight from other Asia country, while some Indonesian keeps provoking negative narratives. Country without major etnics conflicts always better place to live for next generation. Proud of my lovely Indonesia, always knew it will be the next 'Macan Asia' ❤
Jakarta has been the center of economic activities since centuries ago, it will remain like that for the next centuries. Sinking is not a problem, there are plenty of highland just kilometers away southwards. There are tenth of millions of Jakarta's resident will still live there. In fact, large upscale district is being built on the coast of jakarta.
We Indonesian always be neutral to US and China. We have Non-Block Policy it's in our constitution cannot be change. We will cooperate with US, China and any other country as well, together we can make the world better.
Indonesia never really tried to be neutral to the US and China (or US-USSR back in the cold war). What it does in relation to the superpowers is hedging and balancing (this may appear as if it tries to be neutral, while it's not the intention), since the bipolarity of the world order and the stability of US-China relation is paramount to its security and development.
Indonesia is not neutral country ala Switzerland. Its constitution, which mandates it to keep the world peace, and its "active and free" foreign policy lead it to the path of non-alignment since it believes that blocs or bloc-politics creates tension which leads to conflicts.
@@hitthedeck4115 netral .bukanya tidak punya kontrol..itu sama dengan kekonyolan kami bisa saja menjadi negara maju sejak awal sejajar rusia as tiongkok. .jika benar2 memihak karna kita punya segalanya dan punya harga tawar tapi tidak indonealdia lakukan.karna karakter bangsa kami ingin maju bersama..jikala ada merasa yg tidak baik di baiki oleh indonesia..tanya pada negara itu sendiri .pasti merka yg bermasalah..kami ingin maju bersama dan bersaing secara adil dan bijaksana
@@MiftakhulAndim-hy7sf That's what I call "hedging and balancing" (you may want to look those up). Indonesia doesn't have any policy to be neutral or a neutral state.
If so, Israel is not on the list....
@@avorfm1964 kami bisa saja bersahabat dengan israil andai iarail ber itikad baik dwngan palestina namun sayangnya mreka adalah penjajah yg tidak berprikemanusiaan.yang dahulu di kasih hati oleh bangsa palestine kini merka memutarbalikan.atas nama bumi yang di janjikan d..alibi kemanusian
amazing. sometimes other people more understand us better than we do. So it is not surprising if there is common unfairness that can harm both parties. I think that's what we needs to be committed to. thus will creating a mutually beneficial paradigm.
Under the leadership of President Prabowo Subianto, Indonesia will become a country respected by the world through its economy and military strength. We believe that.
Taiwan and Indonesia actually have historical ties and racial ancestry, it is believed that most of the people of Indonesia are descended from areas in Taiwan. People in Indonesia really respect the Taiwanese people and the Chinese people and pray for the best for the settlement of the two countries. We are all still brothers and close relatives, may blood ties bring and direct us to unity and peace.
I guess you mean the aboriginal indigenous residents of Taiwan and not the Chinese - Han residents of Taiwan.
Formosan minority is ancestor of sea nation
AUSTRONESIA❤
Its not Taiwanese Chin/ese but indigenous Taiwanese.
And by the way, the Chi/nese have continue to discriminate against the indigenous in Taiwan WHICH IS OUR racial ties.
sorry you're talking about the polynesian ethnic group, they're a minority and due to time very distantly related.
As an Indonesia i hope Mr. Prabowo to follow Mr. Jokowi's footsteps especially in the foreign relationship. The country has it own principle and whenever we violated it bad thing happen to us. Stay neutral, keep active. Be a good listener
fufufafa (gibran) is the best vice president in Indonesia❤🎉
@@brainvoltz He should be president unironically, down with prabowo up with fufufafa.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw right, fufufafa the best vice president in the world
Indonesia adalah negara netral dan bersahabat dengan ngara manapun
Thank for this videos
Apapun kedepannya saya berharap INDONESIA lebih memilih bekerja sama seluruh negara di dunia. lebih mementingkan hubungan baik, ekonomi, budaya, yang saling menguntungkan ❤❤❤❤❤ salam damai dari INDONESIA. 🇮🇩🙏
Warm greetings from Indonesian people, best regards
TV Nasional Indonesia harus belajar cara pengamat dari Taiwan yang sangat tajam dan lebih detail terhadap kekuatan dan kelemahan Indonesia di mata dunia. Mereka tidak mencampuri pandangan yang tidak mendasar atau opini personal di dalam diskusinya. Jauh lebih menarik dibandingkan apa yang sedang dibahas di TV Nasional Indonesia.
Thank you for the insights
Indonesia does have so much potential in terms of resources; natural, capital and human.
But it does sometimes feel that we are so occupied and fought about with/for not so “important” matters.
Feels like most of people in power deliberately make us stupid, in order to control us! By using media and those propaganda proposing that we have “problems” that if you think about it don’t really exist.
I still believe that a proper educations should be Indonesian main priority in this.
Lastly, talking about religions. Do you guys know that in Indonesia’s ID card that there’s this section about religions? I feel like somehow by doing this, we put ourselves in boxes and promote ethnocentrism, while our priority is to work together towards better future. I mean can we still call ourselves a country with an ideology of “Bhinneka Tunggal Ika” ?
Calm down. The religion section in our ID is just a way to adhere Pancasila. Many native tribes here still practice local religions that don't belong to our so-called "six recognized religions" and they can keep their religion section blank. I don't know what you mean by 'promote ethnocentrism' when Indonesia is not an ethnostate in the first place.
Well spoken❤
@@pogogod6036 The lack of official recognition is inherently stigmatising and deindigenising the indigenous populations- might as well call it colonialism.
While Indonesia has experienced impressive economic growth in recent years, there are still significant challenges that need to be addressed.
One pressing issue is the persistence of poverty and inequality. Despite the country's abundant natural resources and a growing middle class, a substantial portion of the population continues to live below the poverty line.
The government has implemented various programs to alleviate poverty, but more needs to be done to ensure that the benefits of economic growth are distributed more equitably.
Additionally, the country's heavy reliance on commodity exports leaves it vulnerable to fluctuations in global commodity prices.
To enhance economic resilience, Indonesia should diversify its export base and foster the development of more value-added industries.
Agreed 💯
Indo was very strong. Indo can do anything, including moved the capital.
Bravo Presidenku🔥🔥🔥,,, hancurkan para mafia dan para koruptor!!!
Gimana mau dihancurkan kalau koruptor nya temen2 Wowo semua?
malu2in aja
Aminin dulu aja lah ya .. moga2 memang bakalan seperti iti
@@mochfirman yg jelas Prabowo disegani oleh orang2 luar negri,, lah elu?! 🤣🤣
@@MbahMu9829 "fitnah adalah favorit para pecundang ketika mereka tidak bisa mengalahkan musuhnya"
Netherlands and Indonesia aren’t considered close. Lol It’s like what the Nazi did to the Jewish people. Colonial power 6:44 facts
And the second biggest of Indonesian diaspora abroad is in Netherlands, tf you mean 😂
You forgot that Indonesia didn’t exist yet at that time and many of local kingdoms and tribes sided with the Dutch during the colonial times.
Dont compare us to a single-sided genocide, we fought for our own independence and we bear no hatred to the past 🖕
Its close, closest european country. U have no idea what u r talking
You're talking nonsense, dude.
Netherland is the gate for Indonesian goods exported to Europe. Netherland is the only European country that Indonesian has direct flight to. These two facts already describe what kind of relation between two countries.
I love this media, so care abaut Indonesia and put objectivity on their talks
Compared to the size of the country, Vietnam received the second-highest amount of foreign direct investment.
Nothing to worry about indonesia, the politicians are too busy filling their pockets and bank accounts, domestic or abroad.
That^s right 🤣🤣
😂😁🤣 Thats true.
👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
disaat orang dari negara lain memuji indonesia. dan disitulah ada orang indonesia membuka aib negara ke orang luar
@@akhmadbaidowi3181 truth will ALWAYS prevail 🤪🤪🤪
Tenang negara tetangga. Pak Prabowo itu selalu menganggap teman untuk semua negara. pelanggar hak azasi manusia itu sebenarnya netayahu dan Biden. Sehat selalu pak Prabowo. Semoga Allah aza wajalla memberi kemakmuran bagi bangsa Indonesia. Aamiin
Indonesia non blok bebas aktif 🇮🇩👍
Lu ngapa komen sampe banyak banget bang?? 🤣🤣🤣
Sayang banget sama indo lu yaa🤣🤣
BRICS dan OECD tidak ada masalah bagi itu kami Indonesian akan menggandeng keduanya 🇮🇩👍
Indonesia has potential natural resources., that take time to transform become hight undustrial product..
Prabowo continued what Widodo has done, & his brother Chinese business is impact for him, prabowo will in this part of china, what i really predict he will did big project soon in papua. Hopefully im wrong.
Nusantara seems like The Capitol in Hunger Games franchise for us. It seems like just prepared for Oligarch to play far away from public-folks.
now that you mentioned it, it really seems to be that way... makes me worried for my friends. you know there's been an education crisis in our country and my school has the short end of the stick with it especially. i'm incredibly blessed to be able to understand any of this at all, and it just pains me to know that they're wasting these youths and possibly dooming them to a life of generational poverty with how terrible they're treating the literal future of the nation.
Indonesia 🇮🇩" The Great "🇮🇩
Indonesia has abundant resources, gold, silver, oil, nickel, ect.. And also our land is very fertile, with abundant workers. It's not make sense if this country is poor. On the right hand leadership, this country is heading to prosperity and soon to be the 4th largest GDP.
Mari lihat pelantikan presiden baru Indonesian pagi ini 20 Oktober 2024
Tamu negara'dri beberapa Negara hadir memeriahkan 🎉🎉
In some cases, money talks louder than usual. I can understand why Indonesia does what it does.
prabowo and jokowi unity make indonesia more powerful
i love cycling so i like taiwan. cheers
Lol the face of both ladies as if sharing an internal secret "yea I know what u mean, he's definitely planting his son to continue his influence"
I'm Indonesian and I love taiwanese
Indonesia dari dahulu negara kaya raya, dan kapan saja indonesia bisa menjafi negara kaya raya, apabila negara kami menarik biaya pada selat penyebrangan yang ada di indonesia malaka dan sunda, tapi sampai saat ini indonesia masih mebebaskan biaya karna untuk kepentingan dunia🎉
Indonesia Non Blok 🇮🇩👍
Win win solutionn and good cooperation among countries.
Utk jaga jaga perang taiwan hrs byk infestasi keindonesia ato bangun pabrik disini indonesia sgt luas n negara netral......biar aset aset berharga tauwan jg aman klo terjd perang bsr dgn china daratan
There's two things not mentioned in this very fair discussion. One is that Prabowo is fluent in English which will make it far easier to promote Indonesia's interests worldwide. The second is Prabowo's promised effort to eradicate poverty in Indonesia. Included in this is his policy of free lunches and milk to every school child to tackle the problem of stunting and arrested development. I think his deputy Gibran Rakabuming has had a hand in this.
Indonesia not rich now _ how situasion economic indonesia? When go from dolar ?
The biggest problem Indonesia have is people focus more about religion, not on growth and development.
What are you talking about, the majority of indonesians are secular
What are you talking about, the majority of indonesians are secular
Wrong
Religion first and others next,and do your best with your country ,we are good here
based on presidential election only 24% focus on that don't worry
Taiwan must invest to build and defend ikn "nusantara" structure so taiwan can barricade the chinese interest within indonesia
INDONESIA 🇮🇩🇮🇩
It such for information that the region Country taking about any Other Nation like Indonesian, i like to hear more, thank you,
Siapapun yang mengusik indonesia harus di balas lebih pedih.
Jangan mau di adu domba negara barat dan luar. Indonesia harus kuattt
We Indonesian are always been neutral country just like our founding fathers want when their blood and tears fighting for independence. No worries on that its already in our blood as the decendant
I think they need nickel to supply military drone batteries.
as an illustration China alone has sold 15000 military drones, and what about other countries or USA itself
The glazing for indonesia is crazy
Indonesia: it’s better to make friends and not foe. I think our last Foreign minister Retno Marsudi has been very good in representing Indonesia as nation that want to make friends with everyone garnering diplomatic ties as many as possible. Indonesia has been underdog, stay neutral, non-alignment, and avoid regional war. We definitely prioritize diplomacy, dialog, and not imperialism to acquire power in the world. Yes, there are many problem in Indonesia especially the hiccup in manufacturing industry that delay the potential national human resource development, rampant corruption, and neoliberalism which costs us to Oligarchy which result to the widening gap in social class as well as disproportionate development in Eastern Indonesia. I hope We as Indonesians are always guided to straight path to prioritize all people over few people.
Indonesia, an underrated tiger of the world
it lies in the nickel.
Yes, a Big lies.. if you're part of mining or manufacturer industry like me, u see what i see...
@@chikachik3233 What do you see bro tell us more
Economy without morale - over the time " daritanam."....why
From here/your country, technology 's PT. HARITA HALMAHERA NICKEL in north malucas Indonesia my own.
ternyata tidak hanya pasang spanduk terima kasih disepanjang jalan di indo.. ternyata luar negeri digarap juga... tentu saja tdk dalam bentuk spanduk atau baliho2....
Indonesia want to take back her teritory from kingdom era, Nusantara!
China has always been committed to bilateral peaceful development and peaceful exchanges. We are committed to not fighting or harming civilians in Myanmar's internal affairs and have never interfered in Myanmar's internal affairs.
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go to Indonesia to open industry and make training schools for skilled workers, raw materials and human resources available, let's move forward together
Taiwan harus meniru singapura meningkatkan Investasi yang sangat besar di Indonesia itulah jalan terbaik dari konflik dengan Tiongkok
Indonesia always be neutral for ever
Keren👍
With almost 300 million people, over 715 local languages, numerous ethnic groups, and a landmass as large as Europe, Indonesia is governed by a single president. It's high time for Indonesian netizens to position themselves as the older sibling and protect their younger ones. Remember, the South China Sea is heating up. After several powers have wreaked havoc in the Middle East, Europe, and the Korean Peninsula, it's time for Indonesia to help prevent conflict in the South China Sea. (War is profitable for weapons manufacturers). Long live Indonesia! (The blood of Indonesian fighters). It's become common for TH-camrs to increase their viewers by posting about Indonesia, and many foreigners are seeking Indonesian partners. (The balance of power from usa/west allies and china/east allies). The DNA of the Indonesian people is that of a warrior. They don't need conscription; they will willingly defend their country if provoked. There's a common saying, 'We are friendly, but if provoked, we can be crueler than the cruelest person (You are not fighting against the military, but against the entire Indonesian people)
Agreed 👍🏼
Mantaaapp
Always have positive thinking , make indonesiaan becomes modern growht up and development.
Dear World,
Indonesia is moving the Capital to Nusantara not only because Jakarta is sinking (It isn't in its entirety by the way, parts of it maybe). There are other ideological and developmental reasons.
Indonesia rich of nickel
05:01... What's going on?
3:58 what does '-51' stands for? 🤣🤣🤣
tanpa bermaksud kasar dan tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat, kalian (taiwan) strategi pendekatan kalian salah besar, maksudku Amerika dan sekutunya tidak benar-benar peduli pada kalian walau kalian menjual nama "demokrasi" sekalipun, yang mereka peduli adalah bisnis dan ekosistem manufaktur semiconductor chip kalian. aku mengerti bahwa kalian tidak ingin di aneksasi oleh Tiongkok, tidak masalah, aku tidak ingin terlalu masuk kedalam masalah itu. yang jadi masalah adalah strategi kalian yg mendorong perang ke kawasan ini, ubahlah strategi perang militer itu ambil pendekatan cara lain jika ingin mendapat dukungan dari mitra kawasan asia, mungkin dengan investasi ataupun pertukaran budaya, terserah. ingat sejarah cold war : perang Korea , vietnam, irak vs iran, Afghanistan dan next Ukraina, amerika hanya menyedot sumberdaya uang kalian, tidak benar-benar peduli kepada kalian.
disclaimer: aku tidak membela Tiongkok, Tiongkok juga melakukan kesalahan di masa lalu. poin utamanya adalah : dengan kekuatan militer dan mendorong perang itu hanya menjadi sia-sia, tidak ada yg menang, lihatlah warga Ukraina yang terlantar di banyak negara, lihatlah presiden mereka yang mengemis kemana-mana. apakah masa depan seperti itu yang kalian pilih?
100% agree. The US has their chance with Ukraine. Had they gave 100 F35 to Ukraine and unlimited commitment like they didn’t israel, they would retain a bit of credibility. Instead needs to beg for expired (albeit effective, compared to russians’) equipmentdespite fighting a full scale modern war whule israel gets all the newest stuff for free. If they threw europeans under the bus, what will they do to asians who they joked about killing so much? US government is 100% compromised by the jewish lobby, their foreign interest is israel first. Current events proved this is no longer an exaggeration
Taiwan bukan Ukraina, tidak ada orang Taiwan yang mau perang dengan China demikian juga tidak ada orang China yang mau perang dengan Taiwan. Orang Taiwan tidak bodoh demikian juga orang China ga bego bego amat terprovokasi. Kondisi memang tegang tapi Amerika tidak akan pernah bisa "memaksakan" perang antara China dan Taiwan. Konflik akan dimulai dari Korea (utara dengan selatan) dan perang antara China dan Taiwan hanya akan terjadi ketika China menganeksasi lokasi lokasi strategis Taiwan yang "dikuasai" amerika.
Tambahan : perbedaan antara Rusia-Ukraina dengan China-Taiwan adalah soal sosio kultural. Orang "Chinese" masih menekankan kepada warisan budaya dan kultural, penghormatan terhadap nenek moyang dan sejarah pahit orang-orang "Chinese" sepanjang sejarah (perang saudara, kemiskinan, dijajah, diaspora, diskriminasi) membuat orang-orang "Chinese" cenderung saling membela sesamanya
@@maccheese8379 tanpa mengurangi rasa hormat. pernah denger Kuomintang nya Chiang Kai shek vs komunis nya Mao Zedong? the problem is, mereka adalah bapak pendiri bagi negaranya masing-masing, Amerika tentu ga bodoh juga tiba-tiba masuk ke sana kalau kedua negara tsb tanpa masalah.
@@bimantaraadityawarman1734 budaya dan mentalitas china itu bukan terbentuk waktu jaman mereka. Orang china sudah ribuan tahun mengalami perang saudara, dipermalukan eropa, jepang. Mereka (taiwan dan china) tidak akan pernah melakukan perang total. Tentara dan rakyat dari kedua tempat ini pasti akan melakukan penolakan. Yg akan terjadi maksimal adalah skirmish saja utk memperebutkan titik titik strategis.
Beda 180° dengan korea (utara dan selatan) meski kemungkinan kalau perang pecah kebanyakan tentara korut akan membelot ke selatan.
@@maccheese8379 dengan analogi yang sama, Rusia Ukraina ga akan perang, induk mereka sebelum tsar Russia keluarga Romanov itu dari kiev kok, dan apa kenyataan nya? perang dunia ga pernah ada survei seseorang itu mau perang atau enggak, kalaupun ada semua pasti memilih ga perang, lha wong perang itu tentang membunuh atau dibunuh kok. perang itu mobilisasi, ga ada kata setuju atau enggak. that's why yg harus di kejer dan di desak itu pemimpin nya, karena semua hal terjadi berkat pemimpin itu sendiri.
nah man that new capital is literally Falconia from Berserk
i like taiwan information that indonesia
Indonesia should really never trust the US, look to Israel. Stay neutral and think about your own interest.
kesini krna pengen liat reaksi tetangga, malah banyak orang rumah
Rencana indonesia mengembangkan semi konduktor bersama belanda
I hope Indonesia continues its non-alignment policy, but what’s even more important right now is focusing on economic development. There are many areas that need improvement. The down streaming policy, particularly in the nickel industry, is a positive step, even though the majority of investment is currently dominated by China.
The relationship between Indonesia and China has nothing to do with Indonesia and Taiwan. We can be 'friends'-that’s how Indonesia maintains its relationships with both the US and Russia, despite the fact that the US and Russia have conflicts
Tolong berikan terjemah indonesia hehe
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Compared to Hong Kong and Macau and even Japan, Taiwan isn’t as accessible for us as Indonesian tourists as visiting can be quite complicated with the visa etc.
So Fellow Indonesians, you might want to consider other destinations. Stay away from Taiwan.
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Well, Indonesia didn't want south china sea but we protect what ours, that's North Natuna Sea
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Indonesia must partnership with Philippines & Malaysia
Ketika indonesia diberitakan buruk oleh media west. Maka indonesia di jalan yg benar. Logis dan simple 😊
Ini ga memburukan woi, kalo ga ngerti gausah ngomong....
Beritanya aja malah menjelaskan kenapa Indonesia sangat penting dan dibutuhkan baik oleh China maupun Amerika.
Sangat seru melihat para ahli beradu argumen di kolom komentar 😂
cooperate between countries, for mutual benefit, not to harm one party, don't be like Apple, want to set up a factory, but want tax free for 50 years in indonesia, crazy
Clearly Indonesia has a singular focus on its position in Asia looking only to its northern aspect. It has almost no significant trade with one of its closest neighbours, Australia. Australia is a nation hugely rich in resources and technological know how, but with a very different culture. What it does have in common is that both are democracies. Both are medium powers. Both would be much more successful by collaborating more closely.
Currently we have an unnecessarily massive ‘missed opportunity’. We need to reach out on a broad spectrum with a view to take advantage of each others best abilities, resources and shared opportunities for mutual benefit. Bilateral economic bonds. Bilateral security (military) bonds. It’s time to make genuine friends with our neighbours.
Aus and indonesia already signed defense pact in august 2024
@@noefvon I would be careful not to overestimate the importance of the agreement signed at that time. It was a good beginning . . But a pact? More a letter of intent by both parties to cooperate. Hopefully the two nations will draw closer in time.
No offense but it's better to keep distance from Australia and Australians. Indonesia should only do the bare minimum in term of diplomacy for the sake of formality.
@@ab-mf5tt offence ? Why would anyone take offence at an offensive comment?
@@johngodden4363 what I mean by "no offense" is that I don't mean to offend you personally.
It's simply dangerous to befriend Australia.