The Trump administration rescinded a set of Obama-era policies that promoted using race to achieve diversity in schools, teeing up new battle lines over admissions standards.
I get tired of these people bringing socalled brown, when talking about issues affecting black Americans. Especially when the brown category get so much representative benefits from our media judges and politicians, thru decades of open borders and boat loadsof compassion policies benefiting for Latino illegal aliens.
Thomas Ray What a weak statement. Correcting racism by implementing racism is a formula for disaster. I am completely for requiring every student gets the same education k to 12 and same budget. Then base admittance on grades not on IQ . No matter your genetics, if you work harder you will succeed. To gain admittance because your grand father was a slave is a weak argument. I believe in black people, and I personally don’t think they need extra help.... just equal opportunity.
Perhaps! Then the jobs that our elders worked would still be here for their off spring! I was always told if it doesn't seem broken don't try and fix it.
@@jacoblee5796 1) *Stop and frisk-* which criminalizes black men for simply walking on a city street, which effectively pushes black people out of neighborhoods which helps to speed up gentrification efforts. 2) *Zero Tolerance policies in the K-12 public school system-* targets black boys into the infamous *_school-to-prison-pipeline_* by disproportionately suspending and expending them for infractions that white boys would get a slap on the wrist for. By criminalizing black boys it prevents them from having a stable education and thereby neutralizes their ablity to compete on an economic playing field as adults. 3) *Mulford Act-* a NRA-sponsored state law signed by Ronald Reagan as California governor as a response to black men forming armed militia organizations to protect themselves from racist cops and white militia groups. Essentially sets up the blueprint to disarm legal black gun holders across the USA
@@willia3r First off stop and frisk did target people of color based off profiling. Meaning there was a reason they where targeting black men. It was done in New York which at the time was considered one of the unsafest cities in the world. A decade after stop and frisk was implemented it was considered one of the safest. Points 2 and 3 are just dumb and i should grab my tinfoil hat before even addressing them.
An education goes further than a few years in the NBA, most likely. Why would a team draft or hire a player because of his/her skin knowing it will hurt their chances at their ultimate goal? You do know white people used to be the Stars of the NBA, mostly due to black people NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY, but black people worked hard changed the game and now you want affirmative action there? You'll cost the NBA money and it doesn't make sense
Righteous1 one of the VIDEOS here said ,,,listen to how fucking stupid you are really ,one of the videos here SAID it ,,, DON'T BE THIS STUPID , YOU NO BETTER ,listen to your dumb self
I have a dream we will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character - Martin Luther King.
And when you think Paris Dennard can't go deeper into the sunken place... he finds himself in a whole new low level! You can actually see his last shreds of humanity escaping from his eyes. Sad.
I just fell down to the floor laughing so hard--when Paris said--"You all are out of control..like this is some crisis!". I just can't stop laughing!!!
This was fantastic... as much as I dislike Mr Dennard I truly believe this conversation wasn’t for him, but Daaam I love how Mr Dyson debates and spread the truth...
Ok Dyson. We get it. Same % in schools for minorities as reflected in the population. Your problem is that you won't do that with sports. African American population is 14% but make up 67% of the NFL and 85% of the NBA players. Can't have it both ways.
@Negasso Kadir He is. I think he probably was bullied as a child so now he hates his own kind. There are some that defending Trump for the paycheck but he Paris is a true supporter.
White women benefit from Affirmative Action more than any other demographic in America... But this is a discussion about universities... that being said, merit-based programs are the norm, no minority goes to Harvard just because they’re “Black” and submitted an application, they have proved their proficiency and their academic excellence as being substantial. THAT being said, many of the “power” positions are held by White people who may be tempted to give preference to other “team-mates”... affirmative action ensures that there is some type of check/balance to the decision process. Often times, as we ALL know... it’s not what you know but who you know... so merit has ALWAYS been secondary to preference and favoritism. They are attempting to use their “color-blindness” as a deflection tactic for their covert racism
I graduated over 40 years ago with a BA degree, from a school, that had a diverse student body. I consider that diversity , as a very valuable tool, in my learning there. The discussions were enriched by those who lived in different environments. I met a brazilian girl who turned me on to some artists< I still love today. And I had a Jewish roommate as a freshman, who gives me credit for opening his perspective, in his career. Today's education has too much focus on test numbers, and not enough on things that cannot be measured. You cannot measure a gift, that changes your life. The diversity, in my college education did that, for me.
That might have been the case for you, but if you got in for the color of your skin (not saying you are), then you just took the opportunity of a more qualified candidate of a different color.
Diversity based different cultures, different parts of the globe, different approach to problem solving..etc can be beneficial. Diversity based on skin color doesn't provide that... not to mention it's unconstitutional.
@@godofcod2day For centuries most white students got into many colleges such as LSU, OLE MISS, University of Alabama, Univ. of Arkansas based solely on the the color of their white skin, while Blacks were denied enrollment in those schools based on the COLOR of their black skin.. That is the case for many white students for centuries...
@@jillpatton3432 Diversity based on white skin color has been practiced for centuries in America, and it appears that an attempt to resolve that racial discrimination is openly protested by white racists who got ahead because of their white skin acceptance do not wish to have the issue resolved by allowing other non whites the same opportunities, as if IT WAS OK FOR WHITES TO BE ENROLLED SOLELY BECAUSE OF THEIR WHITE SKIN, BUT WE VIEW IT AS WRONG FOR YOU NON WHITES TO BE ENROLLED IN THE SAME MANNER..
@@godofcod2dayWait stop, your nuts. I agree if a 4.0 GPA student is denied admission to colleges to give a minority student with a 2.5 GPA an opportunity it is racism. However that isn't what affirmative action is. Affirmative action is if you have ten 4.0 gpa students and only five positions in a school. Nine of the ten students that applied are not minority or lower class economics wise. Then it's not racist but exercising affirmative action to give one of the five sears to a minority. Why do you guys always twist things? It's like the scare tactics of the student loan forgiveness. We can't pay off doctors or lawyers student loans. But ignoring that the only loans being forgiven are undergraduate Stafford loans that are given to the poorest of students.
As South American immigrant; a day will come when you will wonder whether your achievements were the product of your merit or if they were the product of handouts. Let me tell you something, one feels amazing the other ones does not. These feelings will stay with you for the rest of your life.
tehkoalainsurgency if you do not have the mental capacity then that is no hand out, every one should have the opportunity to do their best, and until the day comes for honest conversation then there will be no need for affirmative action!
Lol As a North American who ancestors Attributed to the building of this country as slaves tell you my South American friend we deserve every equal opportunity this world has to offer and we as a people will not stop fighting for them and that should say something !!! That we have to fight for something that should ours
Didn’t laws historically prevent minorities from playing professorial sports? Jackie Robinson wasn’t that long ago bud.. the most qualified individuals GO to play professor sports. There is no random white guy out in the world that didn’t make the NBA simply because he’s white so squash that delusion
This is actually a great idea. Many States are already doing this already. Remove race and gender completely off the application and only base admission on academic requirements. Now everyone is on an even playing field
While attending Brophy College Preparatory in Phoenix, Arizona, Dennard served as the chairman of the Arizona Teenage Republicans and spoke at the 2000 Republican National Convention in Philadelphia. After graduating from Brophy in 2000, Dennard attended Pepperdine University on a SCHOLARSHIP for STUDENTS of COLOR.
Stop making my generation and race feel like we’re too dumb to get into a college by our own power. I didn’t use this affirmative action shit and I’m in college doing amazing. I brought myself here through hard work and dedication. I hate being categorized by my skin. This just makes me upset, seeing these older black men talking as if he’s got my back. Lift the black community up, don’t give us gifts for lack of responsibility
Solid point. The underlying message that blacks are less capable of succeeding without “help” or have limited potential is invalidating. People with black skin do not need any of these white-guilt head starts to make it in this world. The provisions of non-minorities with certain “advantages” seems like another way to invalidate and perpetuate the narrative that majorities are the gatekeepers and deciding factor in anyone’s success.
FIRST OBAMA GIVE FREE FOOD STAMPS, THEN OBAMA MAKES COLLEGES HAVE TO HAVE DIVERSITY MEANING PUT MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN. BUT I THINK FAIR IS IF YOU EARN IT. IF SOMEONE WORKS VERY HARD AND LEARNS AND ACHIEVES GOOD GRADES THAT SHOULD BE REWARDED. AFFIRMITAVE ACTION IS GOOD BUT IT HAS MANY PARTS TO IT THAT DILUTE QUALITY.
It’s a one sided approval. Without affirmative action, BP wouldn’t have a change bc no matter if a BP has the grades they are typically overlooked and the spot would be given to a lower scoring WP
When I, as a white person, lived on the West Side of Chicago, I would often see young blacks loitering outside stores and standing on street corners and I used to think ,"I wonder what colleges these fine young men have applied to."
Anyone against affirmative action doesnt know what it is. What was in place before affirmative action? White supremacy in hiring, admission, etc. It didnt matter how qualified the black candidate and how unqualified the non black candidate was, they werent hired. Affirmative action meant giving priority to qualified black people in positions/schools they were historically denied access. It wasnt a "hire & enroll them because theyre black" policy. They wouldnt be hired/enrolled if there wasnt any affirmative action protecting them against discrimination.
Paris should have stayed on message with the administration’s position of the decision and not veer off into the merits of affirmative action in higher education. He was clearly out of his depth and threw out the “elitism” charge to deflect attention. He should have countered by asking: Where do the blacks students admintted by AA rank in their class?, How many graduate in their chosen field as opposed to having changed to a less competitive major to keep up? How many have graduated on time? Drawing the conversation to it being due to the quality of high school education. For that discussion they could have had Thomas Sowell or Shelby Steele instead of Paris Dinnard.
The intro of the panelists was awesome! "Joining us, professor, scholar, amazing guy and NEW YORK TIMES INSTANT BEST SELLER!!!!!!!! THE ONE, THE OOOOOONLY, MICHAEL EEEEEEEEERIC DYSOOOOOOON!!!!! Oh, and Paris Dennard..."
You are bugging dr dyson is a clown, using big words to try and appear smart, fact is Trump wants merit based system saying that blacks are just as smart as any other group and they dont need assistance from the gov to get into college while Dyson is saying the opposite, that without looking at race and using only merit based entry to college then blacks will be left out. Thats pretty racist. I dont get why democrats hate merit based systems in America. They are against it with college and they are against merit based system for immigration and who we allow to enter America. They say if we have a merit based immigration system then those black and brown people will be left out in the cold and that only those from predominatly white nations or european nations will be only ones who will qualify to get in. Again thats racist. Yet they call Trump racist and republicans racist becauae we believe that a merit based system is only truly fair way to judge immigration entry and college admissions and that anyone can make it in based on that system. they give credit to minorities that the dems dont. The dems say that using only merit means blacks wont get in another way of saying that minorities arent intelligent enough to make it without government intervention
Often-cited examples of race-blind meritocracy are New York City’s elite public schools, such as Stuyvesant High School, for which admission is based solely on a standardized test. Stuyvesant is about 74 percent Asian, 18 percent white, 3 percent Hispanic, 1 percent black, with 4 percent multiracial or other. In California, where race-based affirmative action was eliminated in 1996, admission at the University of California at Berkeley is 42 percent Asian. That is what the administration is fighting - too many Asians. Since it’s evident that Affirmative Action has benefited WHITE WOMEN the most, not necessarily people of color. While the term “model minority” substantiates a myth about how whites value Asians, Asians are only “model minorities” when they are small in number with minimal influence on a community. When Asians “set the norms of academic achievement by which whites are evaluated [and] ultimately usurp those previously in place,” once heralded Asian achievements are critiqued with suspicion.
If you are bothered that people of a certain race dominate the academic world rather than the most competent people dominate it, that makes you a racist.
Well, I guess all the doctors should be just white even if they don't worth a Shit. I suppose the black, brown, and yellow doctors won't qualify since they all start behind the eight ball. People that have more resources from birth(white in this country) will spend more money to have tutors and such to acquire that Meritocracy Sham that you are spewing Paul. How about Paul? Am I wrong about Paul? You make the call and bring your receipts.
affirmative action helps whites just as much as blacks and hispanics. without affirmative action, the best schools like princeton and harvard would be 74% asian, and 18% white. instead, they are 22% asian and 40% white. this can be inferred by the demographics of the best high schools in the us, stuyvesant (NYC) and dougherty (SF)
I can read her mind... Oh god, why didn't i take that job at fox? Anyhow, black communities don't need affirmative action. They need the power and authority to address the issues of their communities.
Affirmative Actions is legalized racism. Completely uncontrollable characteristics of an applicant(Like Race, Ethnicity, or Gender) should not hinder or improve one's chance of admission.
Affirmative action is needed if not tax supported educational institutions should not be funded by ALL tax payers if only the majorities are going to benefit.
As soon as Paris realises that he is completely outclassed and cannot understand what Professor Dyson is saying, he goes right into the "You're insulting me" mode.
the admissions records stand to not only collect statistics but to also add to demographics. therefore, the amount of applications that were denied should be examined to determine what social class they stem from, then take measures to levitate their opportunity to be guided for future college application
Bill Brennan - people who call themselves “white” in this country own at least 90% of everything in this country. Why are they concerned about the other 10%? Greed?
Trina B ikr white people probably have 95% of the privileges in the world why the hell are they so concerned about something like this even though most black people aren’t even thinking about it. Lol
Who ever said making all colleges diverse is a priority? To do that you have to be racist - and judge admissions based on skin color and not merit. I'd like to know who ever said this was a priority.
@Martin Van Lent Wow, your comment really makes me happy that I don't live in America. In Sweden we don't see race as a factor, everyone should be able to do everything without race being a factor.
@@robertjackson1987 Also especially where I live there are many ethnic minorities like Samis and Tornedalningar which I'm a part of. Even in the small area where I live there are also many immigrants, including people from Turkey, the Philipines and Africa.
@@darkwolf4434 I looked it up after I commented to see the exact numbers and was genuinely surprised to see as big of a population of POC in the country. And to your other point Your country could teach mine how to ignore hate groups
As a generic rule-of-thumb, whenever you hear someone whine about "elitism", you're hearing a person feeling inferior. That's the stock-and-trade of all political mouthpieces, engender inferiority feelings in those who you're trying to scare out of their votes 👍
@@Junkman2008 Are you seriously taking Michael Eric Dyson seriously, I'm from Sweden and don't know much americans people who talks poltics but Dyson is one of the people that I take the least seriously especially because he's following a racist pattern
@@darkwolf4434 You're not a black man so there is no way for you to even fathom what Dyson is talking about. It would be like you trying to understand life in a wheelchair while both of your legs are working. A racist pattern? That statement right there shows just how clueless you are. Until you've worn this color of skin for a lifetime, you will never have a clue.
@@Junkman2008 That's the difference, in Sweden we don't treat people based on their skin color, which Dyson argues against in this debate. And do you mean that black people are all the same? That's racist. Also Dyson is following a racist pattern due to his obsession with skin colour.
Alright then, keep on making petty childish insults if that's what you wish. Mentally challenged individuals like yourself can pleasure themselves with stupidity like that. If you actually want to debate, then start by responding to my argument.
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You can’t accept ppl based on race without denying ppl based on race.
Spot on03cheeto
It is not denying people it is correcting the racism of majority over the minority. Wrong has been done and still is.
I get tired of these people bringing socalled brown, when talking about issues affecting black Americans. Especially when the brown category get so much representative benefits from our media judges and politicians, thru decades of open borders and boat loadsof compassion policies benefiting for Latino illegal aliens.
That's exactly how America has always done it.
Thomas Ray What a weak statement. Correcting racism by implementing racism is a formula for disaster. I am completely for requiring every student gets the same education k to 12 and same budget. Then base admittance on grades not on IQ . No matter your genetics, if you work harder you will succeed. To gain admittance because your grand father was a slave is a weak argument. I believe in black people, and I personally don’t think they need extra help.... just equal opportunity.
I think we should take away race based policies.
Perhaps! Then the jobs that our elders worked would still be here for their off spring! I was always told if it doesn't seem broken don't try and fix it.
Please...The white man would be crushed immediately if policies giving them the edge that they have,were overturned.
KR8TZ Can you name these policies that give the "white man" the edge!?
@@jacoblee5796 1) *Stop and frisk-* which criminalizes black men for simply walking on a city street, which effectively pushes black people out of neighborhoods which helps to speed up gentrification efforts.
2) *Zero Tolerance policies in the K-12 public school system-* targets black boys into the infamous *_school-to-prison-pipeline_* by disproportionately suspending and expending them for infractions that white boys would get a slap on the wrist for. By criminalizing black boys it prevents them from having a stable education and thereby neutralizes their ablity to compete on an economic playing field as adults.
3) *Mulford Act-* a NRA-sponsored state law signed by Ronald Reagan as California governor as a response to black men forming armed militia organizations to protect themselves from racist cops and white militia groups. Essentially sets up the blueprint to disarm legal black gun holders across the USA
@@willia3r First off stop and frisk did target people of color based off profiling. Meaning there was a reason they where targeting black men. It was done in New York which at the time was considered one of the unsafest cities in the world. A decade after stop and frisk was implemented it was considered one of the safest. Points 2 and 3 are just dumb and i should grab my tinfoil hat before even addressing them.
I know, let's fight racism with MORE racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck the white ma8
Trying to fight it peacefully didn't work for the black or red man. #facts
@@anthonywilliams1284 fo sho!
You don’t know what racism means
@@holmesjakekiller Racism is, say, turning down an Asian (person of color) applicant to a big-time school like Harvard. Racism like that is wrong.
Might as well put affirmative action in the NBA to diversify it
Righteous1 the goal in the NBA is different than the goals in LIFE
An education goes further than a few years in the NBA, most likely. Why would a team draft or hire a player because of his/her skin knowing it will hurt their chances at their ultimate goal? You do know white people used to be the Stars of the NBA, mostly due to black people NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY, but black people worked hard changed the game and now you want affirmative action there? You'll cost the NBA money and it doesn't make sense
Righteous1 affirmative action was way before Obama thanks for showing your ignorance, I'm done talking to you
Righteous1 ohbama didn't put affirmative action into place you fucking dummy ,shows how fucking stupid you are
Righteous1 one of the VIDEOS here said ,,,listen to how fucking stupid you are really ,one of the videos here SAID it ,,, DON'T BE THIS STUPID , YOU NO BETTER ,listen to your dumb self
I have a dream we will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character - Martin Luther King.
@Rob Cameron Well said. 👍
You get nothing for nothing.
@@rob1111 Thanks
MLK was a supporter of Affirmative Action.
@@Herb615 MLK was actually awful in many ways, but if you take his speach without the context of his other views, it's pretty good.
Here with us, we have Michael Eric Dyson, whose book is a NEW YORK TIMES INSTANT BESTSELLER!
...oh yeah, and Paris Dennard's here too.
@Chris Miller everythings racist...shut the fuck up and stop bitching fuckin pussy!
lmao
@Chris Miller What?
She is unequivocally turned on by his strong Intellect
Right 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Paris got chewed up.. spit out...re-swallowed, and regurgitated all in one interview.
Race should not be included on any application at all......doesnt matter what ur race is..
I agree. It should only be included in the census. Nothing else.
john degraw ***,THEN YOU WOULDNT KNOW HOW TO CHEAT BLACK PEOPLES,****
@@hebrewbrown1900 really???? Do u have any examples of that??
Where have u been? Race matters! No matter how happy ur fairlyland is 😒
@@godthesonthomas race does not matter....only to racists it matters
And when you think Paris Dennard can't go deeper into the sunken place... he finds himself in a whole new low level! You can actually see his last shreds of humanity escaping from his eyes. Sad.
David Erif soyboy Man U are dum get a nose job and say with me trump 2020
I tend to agree but There Is No Las Shred....trust me on that. His business and single source of income depends on yet more shameless appearances
you're making shit up.. you are literally projecting.. I second that Meji
David Erif there are no rescue missions to the sunken place.
As he stands on the head of the mouth vacuum,,Dyson😆
“Not emotionally”, that’s pretty rich coming from a man (Dyson) who acted like a a name calling six year old during the Munk Debate.
What in the Hell made this guy think he could spar with Dr. Dyson
Because Dyson is an idiot.
I just fell down to the floor laughing so hard--when Paris said--"You all are out of control..like this is some crisis!". I just can't stop laughing!!!
I personally lost brain cells listening to Dyson.
@@darkwolf4434
You never had enough brain cells to lose any. That's your problem.
@@Junkman2008 Yeah, you're correct didn't think of that
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@@Junkman2008 let me guess, he also isn’t the Yale or Harvard type either…?
This was fantastic... as much as I dislike Mr Dennard I truly believe this conversation wasn’t for him, but Daaam I love how Mr Dyson debates and spread the truth...
Damn Paris is soft as silk. Wow.
🤣
@Martin Van Lent Yeah, it doesn't take a genius to see Dyson's race obsession.
@@darkwolf4434 no, it doesn't take a lot to see Paris' obsession with trump
@@sillygoose635 Atleast he's against racial segregation unlike Dyson.
"I have skills" lol 😂🤣
Ok Dyson. We get it. Same % in schools for minorities as reflected in the population. Your problem is that you won't do that with sports. African American population is 14% but make up 67% of the NFL and 85% of the NBA players. Can't have it both ways.
@Megalodon Unlocked that is really stupid to say. Whites keep out Latinos? haha. Hey, come live in Texas where I live and say that shit idiot.
Michael Erik Dyson lecturing Paris on logic is the funniest thing I’ve seen this week 😂
Michael Eric Dyson increases racism.
@@darkwolf4434 No, Paris does.
@@sillygoose635 So not considering someone's race increases racism? Ok.
The fuck is funny about that? How fuckin stupid do you ignorant dumbass trump supporters look and feel now? Fuckin ignorant ass clowns
@@darkwolf4434 so you don’t have a college education?
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Let's put Affirmative Action into place in the NBA!
Paris always look so pitiful when he lose a debate, which is all the time.
Paris is a ________ I hate listening to him TRY to debate
Paris is brain washed
@Negasso Kadir He is. I think he probably was bullied as a child so now he hates his own kind. There are some that defending Trump for the paycheck but he Paris is a true supporter.
Because Paris doesn't argue with facts, he mostly uses emotion and opinion.
Good!
Paris always looks like he just got caught running away from the plantation.....😕
paris is not ready to handle dyson..
His ass ain't ready to handle pussy, much less Dyson.
It’s the Dysons that are wrecking the black community.....if they want true change, they need need to look to the gop
@@dwes49
Fuck Cheeto Jesus and everything the racist GOP stands for.
I didn't know I was racist until Michael Erik Dyson told me so. Thanks Michael.
Paris thinks he is the exception ............................NOT BRO!
paris denard…...this boy is taking tomming to a whole new level!
If Donald Funk tell him to jump he would say how high. With is stupid ass.
Ok boss looking ass.
Sell out ass
Might have to change it from Uncle Tom to Uncle Tom Denard.
Remember my people. All skinfolk ain't yo kinfolk? Paris is prime example.
That wasn’t even a fair fight. That was like Tyson vs my nephew who plays Fortnite all day.
Are you really taking Dyson seriously.
@@darkwolf4434 Typson a whole clown
@@darkwolf4434 are you really taking Paris seriously
@@sillygoose635 I don't take any american commentator seriously.
White women benefit from Affirmative Action more than any other demographic in America...
But this is a discussion about universities... that being said, merit-based programs are the norm, no minority goes to Harvard just because they’re “Black” and submitted an application, they have proved their proficiency and their academic excellence as being substantial.
THAT being said, many of the “power” positions are held by White people who may be tempted to give preference to other “team-mates”... affirmative action ensures that there is some type of check/balance to the decision process.
Often times, as we ALL know... it’s not what you know but who you know... so merit has ALWAYS been secondary to preference and favoritism.
They are attempting to use their “color-blindness” as a deflection tactic for their covert racism
The things Dyson says are incredible. A true believer in Identity Politics
Affirmative Action for the NBA
this just give the left a reason to shout racist come on man no need to use the N- Boom
I graduated over 40 years ago with a BA degree, from a school, that had a diverse student body. I consider that diversity , as a very valuable tool, in my learning there. The discussions were enriched by those who lived in different environments. I met a brazilian girl who turned me on to some artists< I still love today. And I had a Jewish roommate as a freshman, who gives me credit for opening his perspective, in his career. Today's education has too much focus on test numbers, and not enough on things that cannot be measured. You cannot measure a gift, that changes your life. The diversity, in my college education did that, for me.
That might have been the case for you, but if you got in for the color of your skin (not saying you are), then you just took the opportunity of a more qualified candidate of a different color.
Diversity based different cultures, different parts of the globe, different approach to problem solving..etc can be beneficial. Diversity based on skin color doesn't provide that... not to mention it's unconstitutional.
@@godofcod2day For centuries most white students got into many colleges such as LSU, OLE MISS, University of Alabama, Univ. of Arkansas based solely on the the color of their white skin, while Blacks were denied enrollment in those schools based on the COLOR of their black skin.. That is the case for many white students for centuries...
@@jillpatton3432 Diversity based on white skin color has been practiced for centuries in America, and it appears that an attempt to resolve that racial discrimination is openly protested by white racists who got ahead because of their white skin acceptance do not wish to have the issue resolved by allowing other non whites the same opportunities, as if IT WAS OK FOR WHITES TO BE ENROLLED SOLELY BECAUSE OF THEIR WHITE SKIN, BUT WE VIEW IT AS WRONG FOR YOU NON WHITES TO BE ENROLLED IN THE SAME MANNER..
@@godofcod2dayWait stop, your nuts. I agree if a 4.0 GPA student is denied admission to colleges to give a minority student with a 2.5 GPA an opportunity it is racism. However that isn't what affirmative action is. Affirmative action is if you have ten 4.0 gpa students and only five positions in a school. Nine of the ten students that applied are not minority or lower class economics wise. Then it's not racist but exercising affirmative action to give one of the five sears to a minority. Why do you guys always twist things? It's like the scare tactics of the student loan forgiveness. We can't pay off doctors or lawyers student loans. But ignoring that the only loans being forgiven are undergraduate Stafford loans that are given to the poorest of students.
Are they admitting racism is acceptable in order to achieve diversity?
As South American immigrant; a day will come when you will wonder whether your achievements were the product of your merit or if they were the product of handouts. Let me tell you something, one feels amazing the other ones does not. These feelings will stay with you for the rest of your life.
tehkoalainsurgency White people got the most hand outs in America do your history
tehkoalainsurgency if you do not have the mental capacity then that is no hand out, every one should have the opportunity to do their best, and until the day comes for honest conversation then there will be no need for affirmative action!
I feel you are from Argentina???
Manny That's very close. Chile.
Lol As a North American who ancestors Attributed to the building of this country as slaves tell you my South American friend we deserve every equal opportunity this world has to offer and we as a people will not stop fighting for them and that should say something !!! That we have to fight for something that should ours
What is more important is for all
of us to be able to to afford a good
education in this country.
"Go ahead Paris..." Not even one sentence in cuts him off.
"DARKNESS NEITHER RECEIVE NOR COMPREHEND LIGHT"
Paris was out of his depth and overwhelmed.
ad mobile4 I only date black girls cuz i hate meeting fathers
J T You should probably work out your daddy touching you issues in a more constructive way.
ad mobile4 Paris would be out of his league debating a High School Freshman
No he just disagrees. Dyson is a fast talking disrespectful nut. He’s corrupt
ad mobile4 your rebuttal was epic🤣🤣
Diversity for NBA and NFL
Didn’t laws historically prevent minorities from playing professorial sports? Jackie Robinson wasn’t that long ago bud.. the most qualified individuals GO to play professor sports. There is no random white guy out in the world that didn’t make the NBA simply because he’s white so squash that delusion
This is actually a great idea. Many States are already doing this already. Remove race and gender completely off the application and only base admission on academic requirements. Now everyone is on an even playing field
Wouldn't do anything, sometimes you can get an idea of somebodies race just from a name. So that's pointless
Race should not be a factor! It should be 100% based on grades, GPA, SAT scores etc
Paris got clowned. Name calling of elitism, or does he mean educated?
So now differentiating race is okay! It's no long racism, right? The hypocrisy of this world beats me
The office of the presidency should be merit based!
While attending Brophy College Preparatory in Phoenix, Arizona, Dennard served as the chairman of the Arizona Teenage Republicans and spoke at the 2000 Republican National Convention in Philadelphia. After graduating from Brophy in 2000, Dennard attended Pepperdine University on a SCHOLARSHIP for STUDENTS of COLOR.
Black people can be smarter than asians and whites stop saying that we cant be and need extra help
Quinton Moore I don’t know how black people are seen as such a threat to them getting in their choice school. Lol
"Affirmative Action" is the greatest title given to an idea since "The Final Solution".
Greater than say “Jim Crow?,” which was law of the land for decades.
Joe Giuffre it failed terribly in South Africa
darryl runnels No. Denying the original sin in 2020 to assuage someone feeling a certain kinda way makes an Ostrich
Stop making my generation and race feel like we’re too dumb to get into a college by our own power. I didn’t use this affirmative action shit and I’m in college doing amazing. I brought myself here through hard work and dedication. I hate being categorized by my skin. This just makes me upset, seeing these older black men talking as if he’s got my back. Lift the black community up, don’t give us gifts for lack of responsibility
Solid point. The underlying message that blacks are less capable of succeeding without “help” or have limited potential is invalidating. People with black skin do not need any of these white-guilt head starts to make it in this world. The provisions of non-minorities with certain “advantages” seems like another way to invalidate and perpetuate the narrative that majorities are the gatekeepers and deciding factor in anyone’s success.
Paris is on his period in this debate.
There is certain people that don't deserve to be from our decent
Im asian and I agree with some of what Michael Dyson says
As a black man, admissions should based on merit only if you want a real progressive society
AND A YEAR LATER HE'S BEEN FIRED
@Fleece Johnson paris
@@jarvismack5570 why was he fired and from where?
@@johnnieboy66 sexual harassment
@@jarvismack5570 wow
@@johnnieboy66 i know...I thought he was gay...but he admits he did it...past incident but...yea
Equality ain't never been equal for minorities 😊
veronica Moton yes, yes it has you’re just mad because you work at McDonald’s
FIRST OBAMA GIVE FREE FOOD STAMPS, THEN OBAMA MAKES COLLEGES HAVE TO HAVE DIVERSITY MEANING PUT MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN. BUT I THINK FAIR IS IF YOU EARN IT. IF SOMEONE WORKS VERY HARD AND LEARNS AND ACHIEVES GOOD GRADES THAT SHOULD BE REWARDED. AFFIRMITAVE ACTION IS GOOD BUT IT HAS MANY PARTS TO IT THAT DILUTE QUALITY.
It’s a one sided approval. Without affirmative action, BP wouldn’t have a change bc no matter if a BP has the grades they are typically overlooked and the spot would be given to a lower scoring WP
When I, as a white person, lived on the West Side of Chicago, I would often see young blacks loitering outside stores and standing on street corners and I used to think ,"I wonder what colleges these fine young men have applied to."
Anyone against affirmative action doesnt know what it is. What was in place before affirmative action? White supremacy in hiring, admission, etc. It didnt matter how qualified the black candidate and how unqualified the non black candidate was, they werent hired. Affirmative action meant giving priority to qualified black people in positions/schools they were historically denied access. It wasnt a "hire & enroll them because theyre black" policy. They wouldnt be hired/enrolled if there wasnt any affirmative action protecting them against discrimination.
Paris Uncle Ruckus
Paris should have stayed on message with the administration’s position of the decision and not veer off into the merits of affirmative action in higher education. He was clearly out of his depth and threw out the “elitism” charge to deflect attention. He should have countered by asking: Where do the blacks students admintted by AA rank in their class?, How many graduate in their chosen field as opposed to having changed to a less competitive major to keep up? How many have graduated on time? Drawing the conversation to it being due to the quality of high school education. For that discussion they could have had Thomas Sowell or Shelby Steele instead of Paris Dinnard.
Hahahaha. Yeah they avoid THOMAS SOWELL cuz he'll grill them with facts
That boy Paris is a darm fool!!
@vincent allan how?
The intro of the panelists was awesome! "Joining us, professor, scholar, amazing guy and NEW YORK TIMES INSTANT BEST SELLER!!!!!!!! THE ONE, THE OOOOOONLY, MICHAEL EEEEEEEEERIC DYSOOOOOOON!!!!! Oh, and Paris Dennard..."
Thanks for breaking it down Professor!
Work hard and it doesn't matter, why some people feel they deserve anything for free is crazy.
When I go to a doctor, I want him/her to have got admitted to medical school on MERIT not affirmative action.
Wow... and people accuse the President of blindly implementing racist penchants.
This Joker is a trip Dr Dyson took him to school gave him homework and then signed him up for tutoring .
I'm glad that I don't live in America if people actually listen to Dyson, Clinton and Trump.
You are bugging dr dyson is a clown, using big words to try and appear smart, fact is Trump wants merit based system saying that blacks are just as smart as any other group and they dont need assistance from the gov to get into college while Dyson is saying the opposite, that without looking at race and using only merit based entry to college then blacks will be left out. Thats pretty racist. I dont get why democrats hate merit based systems in America. They are against it with college and they are against merit based system for immigration and who we allow to enter America. They say if we have a merit based immigration system then those black and brown people will be left out in the cold and that only those from predominatly white nations or european nations will be only ones who will qualify to get in. Again thats racist. Yet they call Trump racist and republicans racist becauae we believe that a merit based system is only truly fair way to judge immigration entry and college admissions and that anyone can make it in based on that system. they give credit to minorities that the dems dont. The dems say that using only merit means blacks wont get in another way of saying that minorities arent intelligent enough to make it without government intervention
Derek Juarez amen 🙏
Paris stay getting cooked
Paris was wrong 4yrs ago and definitely wrong today as the Supreme Court made their final decision yesterday 👩🎓
This was Mayweather vs McGregor!
Often-cited examples of race-blind meritocracy are New York City’s elite public schools, such as Stuyvesant High School, for which admission is based solely on a standardized test. Stuyvesant is about 74 percent Asian, 18 percent white, 3 percent Hispanic, 1 percent black, with 4 percent multiracial or other. In California, where race-based affirmative action was eliminated in 1996, admission at the University of California at Berkeley is 42 percent Asian.
That is what the administration is fighting - too many Asians.
Since it’s evident that Affirmative Action has benefited WHITE WOMEN the most, not necessarily people of color.
While the term “model minority” substantiates a myth about how whites value Asians, Asians are only “model minorities” when they are small in number with minimal influence on a community. When Asians “set the norms of academic achievement by which whites are evaluated [and] ultimately usurp those previously in place,” once heralded Asian achievements are critiqued with suspicion.
If you are bothered that people of a certain race dominate the academic world rather than the most competent people dominate it, that makes you a racist.
Looks at how Paris blinks lmao bahaha 🤣😂
Paris has no logical argument but ends up simply making ad hominem attacks.
This guy is such a joke tho..... Props to the anchor for giving time to both!
WTF, I wouldn't want my doctor, to get into a medical school, based upon his skin color rather than merit.
Paul F. You miss the point , affirmative action doesn’t pass exams nor does it pass licensing examinations.
Well, I guess all the doctors should be just white even if they don't worth a Shit. I suppose the black, brown, and yellow doctors won't qualify since they all start behind the eight ball. People that have more resources from birth(white in this country) will spend more money to have tutors and such to acquire that Meritocracy Sham that you are spewing Paul. How about Paul? Am I wrong about Paul? You make the call and bring your receipts.
affirmative action helps whites just as much as blacks and hispanics. without affirmative action, the best schools like princeton and harvard would be 74% asian, and 18% white. instead, they are 22% asian and 40% white. this can be inferred by the demographics of the best high schools in the us, stuyvesant (NYC) and dougherty (SF)
I can read her mind... Oh god, why didn't i take that job at fox? Anyhow, black communities don't need affirmative action. They need the power and authority to address the issues of their communities.
Dr. Dyson sounded like he was rapping at the end of this video
He does it a lot...I love it lol
They lit paris ass up 🔥
Affirmative Actions is legalized racism. Completely uncontrollable characteristics of an applicant(Like Race, Ethnicity, or Gender) should not hinder or improve one's chance of admission.
Everything is fine now. Paris should be ashamed.
#runaway
We all knew Dyson would piece Paris up
Yu Toob soon as he started talking I said WHAT?!?? This who who they brought out for my mans?!? Lol
Fuck yeah
He squared up with the wrong one in Dr. Dyson.
jealous much?
That's what I came for lol.
Affirmative action is needed if not tax supported educational institutions should not be funded by ALL tax payers if only the majorities are going to benefit.
Imagine if race was a factor in 100m DASH and requires at least 1 Asian, 1 White, 1 Black, 1 Hispanic athlete.
As soon as Paris realises that he is completely outclassed and cannot understand what Professor Dyson is saying, he goes right into the "You're insulting me" mode.
So if we want it to be merit based we getting rid of legacies/donors? 🤔
the admissions records stand to not only collect statistics but to also add to demographics. therefore, the amount of applications that were denied should be examined to determine what social class they stem from, then take measures to levitate their opportunity to be guided for future college application
Dyson can't even tie his tie,.... how he is leading ppl is beyond me
He’s schooling little Trump who can’t answer a simple question I know you can agree with that
Please CNN,Paris Dennard has nothing of any importance to say about anything!Get an intelligent commentator,PLEASE!
Ann P because you don’t agree with Paris it means he is not intelligent?
Ann P I only date black girls cuz I hate meeting fathers
Ann P what, because he is not liberal?
Gavin egan he's garbage to us
Cant grant minority scholarships if you are not able to look at race. This is another way of denying opportunities
Dump's war on brown people continues.
Bill Brennan they exist if a white student attends an HBCU
Bill Brennan - people who call themselves “white” in this country own at least 90% of everything in this country. Why are they concerned about the other 10%? Greed?
ivory phillips scholarships are merit based
Trina B ikr white people probably have 95% of the privileges in the world why the hell are they so concerned about something like this even though most black people aren’t even thinking about it. Lol
Who ever said making all colleges diverse is a priority? To do that you have to be racist - and judge admissions based on skin color and not merit. I'd like to know who ever said this was a priority.
Michael Eric Dyson is so smart, he has a clear view on history and what this is really about. Paris is just defending master like always.
I've yet to hear EMD make sense, and I'm still waiting.
@Martin Van Lent Wow, your comment really makes me happy that I don't live in America.
In Sweden we don't see race as a factor, everyone should be able to do everything without race being a factor.
@@darkwolf4434 Isn't Sweden overwhelmingly white? It's easy not to see race when everyone looks the same.
@@robertjackson1987 Yes, but we are still pretty diversed especially in the bigger cities, racist groups does exist but don't have much support here.
@@robertjackson1987 Also especially where I live there are many ethnic minorities like Samis and Tornedalningar which I'm a part of.
Even in the small area where I live there are also many immigrants, including people from Turkey, the Philipines and Africa.
@@darkwolf4434 I looked it up after I commented to see the exact numbers and was genuinely surprised to see as big of a population of POC in the country. And to your other point Your country could teach mine how to ignore hate groups
Paris is triggered. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
EDWARD 0383 I only date black girls cuz I hate meeting fathers
EDWARD 0383 LMMFAO 😂😂😂
As a generic rule-of-thumb, whenever you hear someone whine about "elitism", you're hearing a person feeling inferior. That's the stock-and-trade of all political mouthpieces, engender inferiority feelings in those who you're trying to scare out of their votes 👍
Micheal Dyson can't even tell you what is a WOMAN
#Walkaway
"Learn to engage in argument logically sir, not emotionally"
Spoken by the one that is the most emotional and least logical - Dyson.
@@tastysnack1
You're clueless.
@@Junkman2008 Are you seriously taking Michael Eric Dyson seriously, I'm from Sweden and don't know much americans people who talks poltics but Dyson is one of the people that I take the least seriously especially because he's following a racist pattern
@@darkwolf4434
You're not a black man so there is no way for you to even fathom what Dyson is talking about. It would be like you trying to understand life in a wheelchair while both of your legs are working. A racist pattern? That statement right there shows just how clueless you are. Until you've worn this color of skin for a lifetime, you will never have a clue.
@@Junkman2008 That's the difference, in Sweden we don't treat people based on their skin color, which Dyson argues against in this debate.
And do you mean that black people are all the same? That's racist.
Also Dyson is following a racist pattern due to his obsession with skin colour.
I think we’ve hit a wall here. This argument sounds counter intuitive. I need to shut down.
We are trying to look beyond skin color and here Dyson says no. My skin color makes me who I am.
Boy this Administration is moonwalking all the way back to the 1950s
waiting 90 days to change my name aw dont be a lil bitch haaaaaaa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm being a lil bitch? i'm not the one complaining about made-up and nonexsitent oppression to get let into college because i have shit grades.
waiting 90 days to change my name you are something special 😎
Alright then, keep on making petty childish insults if that's what you wish. Mentally challenged individuals like yourself can pleasure themselves with stupidity like that. If you actually want to debate, then start by responding to my argument.
dont you have a store to rob?