Great episode! My great-great-great-grandfather was a young teen in Virginia when he joined the American forces. He worked on building bulwarks and went back home when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington. He wrote his autobiography at age 90, recounting his life’s journey from Virginia to Georgia to south Mississippi, where he became a farmer and a pastor. He then wrote about his spiritual journey, of being convicted of his sin and being granted salvation. (He stayed up late one night lying on the floor of a cabin where he was being put up for the night, and he started reading Bunyan’s Grace Abounding that he found on a shelf, which played a pivotal part.) In his subsequent study of God’s Word and seeking out sound preaching, he was introduced to the Doctrines of Grace, which made him angry at first but he eventually grew to love and preach until his death in 1855. It is a remarkable story. A little over a year ago I was privileged to sit in the worship service at one of the churches he founded and pastored, close to where his homestead was. I saw his worn Bible that they still have on display and saw his handwritten notes. Fascinating!
The founding father's were masons and not for God. Thomas Paine for example wrote a heretical essay/book against God. Don't be fooled that we are a "christian" nation, because we are not. We were not founded by Christians just most Satanists masquerading as angels of light. There is a great video about who the founding father's really were on youtube somewhere.
If you see an ungodly nation before you, then become the change you would like to see. "The harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few; pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth laborers into his harvest". Matthew 9:37-38
The United States has been such a gift for the Christian faith. No other nation has offered: 1. Greater freedom to teach and defend Biblical doctrines 2. Greater funding and commission of missionaries 3. Greater defense of God-endowed human rights, nor 4. Greater flexibility to live up to Christian values and ideals on a macro scale For the Christian, the United States is not an idol to be worshipped but is absolutely an ideal to be revered and fought for. God Bless Americans God Bless America
@@EarlSimmons-f2n God is sovereign. Nothing happens unless He allows it (not necessarily approving of what’s happened) or unless He causes it to happen.
@@EarlSimmons-f2n I never said God’s providence wasn’t over every war. Of course it is. But there are wars where God makes it more obvious to the non-theologically oriented.
@@siegistic I'm not theologically oriented, no war seems to be godly, especially for the men fighting it. That's why I am asking, how do you know, other than just intuition?
Well done! I am 70 yr old amateur historian. I thought that it’s been quite a long time since I’ve heard a recount of the early American struggle against Britain in quite an educative, informative, and entertaining manner. Kudos!
TIMESTAMPS: 2:55 show starts 11:42 Should Christians celebrate the fourth of July? Why? 13:35 Christian warfare, English law history 25:30 the colonies are established, 1600s 33:50 mid-1700s, the power stuggle between parliament and the crown 39:51 Key phrase: "taxation without representation" & rum 50:14 spilling the tea on where to spend your money & economic protests 1:04:43 aftermath of the tea protest & beginning of the war 1:17:50 the history of the army in England & how that connects to 1776 1:23:05 closing thoughts
Zach makes a big mistake at 34:20. Washington, Jefferson, The Lewis family, the Clark family, and the Lee family are descendents of Cavaliers, not Puritans. They sided with the king in the English Civil War. This is significant because the Puritan/Cavalier conflict is a precursor to the divisions of the Civil War.
Romans 14:5-6 stands and its not a question of should for others too make for us...our goal is to glorify God. Im blessed to be an American citizen born by Providence in this time and age. I pray God shows Mercy on our nation for the sinful lives our GOV upholds and allows.
Of course they should. They simply must measure their love for their nation by their love for their creator, and make sure they aren't idolizing it. But, they can be thankful for the blessing God has shown, and pray for national repentance.
Jesus said to obey authorities like police, pay your taxes ect for they are out there for justice for god alows them in this temporary world. but I don’t know about celebrating a world country that won’t exist once gods kingdom is here. In the end it’s man made, voting for a president isn’t biblical if you are a true servant of Jesus because that should be the only kingdom you devote your life too. It is said man shouldn’t govern man like the Bible says, it leads to what is happening now it’s been corrupt and will KEEP becoming more corrupt through every year we celebrate it just like the Bible profitized . Every nation on top will fall just like the Bible has profitized with ancient Egypt, Asiria, Greece Ancient Rome ect. If you’re on top one day even if it’s thousands of years later you will fall. And so will this nation. I don’t know but I truly believe yes we are the “greatest nation” for now but it will come with a consequence just as it did to past nations and I believe it will be with the coming of Christ since this nation if extremely lost to god with all the lgbt nonsense in schools to kids that god knows shouldn’t be exposed to. All in all if we follow a nation and celebrate it we should be celebrating more our kingdom coming of Jesus Christ. If not you are hipocrite if you choose to still live to vote or celebrate for a temporary nation. Like this video says “do those actions please god?” It’s something for all of us to meditate.
@@christalone71 How’s it going brother? I was born and raised a Jehovah’s witness but after trying to prove my catholic girlfriend wrong and seeing that I was deceived the further I dove into the Bible I now I want to witness the one and only Jesus Christ throughout my life. I still sin and am struggling with sin daily but I know Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Like I said there’s many things to meditate about throughout our life including these holidays
@@eliascastanon3505 Very happy to hear that you have come out of that cult. Praise the Lord for that. I pray your gf is also truly saved and knows the Lord. You seem to be truly zealous for truth. Glad you are here listening to their podcast. I've learned a lot from them. Is "the light" a Christian organization or group? Sorry if I am asking too many questions.
Of course we should celebrate -USA became free from british empire. The US was founded on christian principles -we.are free from the catholic church which was a centralized church that charged high taxes and wanted to control citizens. Americans wanted to be free from the unpleasant papacy and control of the catholic church. - ITs amazing how the best most free country in the world was founded on protestant christian principles. -thank you for being inolved the the young country, brother John Wesley!! God bless america!!!
@@RippedJym I didn't take anyone's land, I don't know of any living american who took the US from anybody. However the natives here's did the same with one another. Terrible argument
How about you prove your freedoms are “God” given 1st. Just because the authors of the constitution thought so doesn’t mean God gave you them. Unless you’re assuming all rights given to Americans are God given, which would mean the right to an ab0rtion is perfectly fine is some states.
@@Yela927 The rights in the constitution are inherent to us as human being since we image-bearers of God, so they came from the Creator and are protected by the constitution. The example that you used isn't a right. Its a violation of one of the rights inherent to humans given by God, so it should and will be banned
@@Yela927 "You shall not murder" upheld by the "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in the constitution and enshrined in laws against murder
I appreciate listening to this before going to witness the actual sky being lit on fire. Happy Independence day everyone, may God bring us to a place of a Christian nation once again, not like the old, which had a lot of good. Rather a better, more sanctified, more righteous nation. At the end of it all, not our will, but the Lord's.
Would love to see Zach talk about and draw the nearly identical comparisons to the War of Northern Aggression against the South. War of Independece: Tax revolt War of Northern Agression: Tax revolt Would love to see this discussed through Apologia Studios!
Thanks for letting us know up front that the answer is “yes.” 😅 That was kind for those of us who were preparing for a proper response if you answered “no.” 😂😜🇺🇸🙏🏼✝️
The only thing that ever made any of us worthy to the task of freedom, the only thing that ever could, is what Christ accomplished for us on the cross. If we reject that, then we definitely do not deserve freedom, and we shall not have it. We will instead deserve every bit of God's righteous judgment that we receive in its place.
RE the state forcing someone to pray to Mary or be put to death (around 37:40): What happened to being a martyr? Jesus did say His disciples would be persecuted (John 15:20).
I want to know how I can reach Jeff Durbin personally I’ve been looking at the church and I can’t find an email or anyway I can reach him. I would love to talk to him personally about a personal matter. I need help with something that I’m sure I could help him with also.
Now that think of it im a Imperalist I serve my king my Lord and my God and my rights are inhalable that means if my Goverment creates any law causing me to sin by obeying them I must obey God and not man amen!
It seems so far like no nuance allowed or any look at the New Testament picture we have in acts. Peter doesn’t seem to fight for his right to live and provide. Now I’m not against self protection or even war but so far they seem to not be addressing the book of Acts and the lack of violence from Christians I want to hear someone talk through those tensions
@@Postmillhighlights he states its sinful to not provide for your family. It is a very black and white statement without looking at the whole body of scripture and other examples we have of apostles not providing for their family and actually dying for sharing the gospel with a wife at home such as Peter (at minimum he had a wife possibly children too). There seems to be a lack of discussion about how does the tension of what they are claiming and what we see in the book of Acts and how the apostles and others in the early church died without armed resistance for preaching the gospel. There doesn't seem to be teaching in this video (i only got 3/4ths through so maybe its still to come) about when is it appropriate to not fight back or not provide for your family. Again I think its not the norm by any stretch, but the absolute language they use about not providing for your family and how sinful it is seems to not consider parts of scripture. When is it biblical and when isn't it. I first heard the revolutionary war possibly wasn't biblical from John McArthur when he clearly said it wasn't biblical and any blessings are not because of their decision but in spite of it and God still blessed the US through it. (this was in his first conversation with Ben Shapiro probably 6 years ago or so..?)
@@crewdog2898 You neither know, much less care, anything about me. I'm actually working, like I do every day but Sunday. But, again, you don't know or care anything about me.
I think Chrisitans can celebrate the blessings God had graciously shown to this country, and be thankful for the freedom we still enjoy, while also praying for national repentance.
Hate to say it but this was a history lesson and didn’t really cover the biblical side. I guess I was expecting more of the just war theory to be touched on. Maybe a future episode? If Bahnsen and Wilson already addressed it might feel like saturation but you guys draw your own crowd, too, you know.
@@vwr32jeep I think your expectations exceed reality. Not everyone knows they’re in sin, or are partaking in a certain sin all the time. Many times a brother or a sister have to bring it to their attention
@@Judoka512 And I think ppl generally know the difference between right and wrong. Beyond that, I think some ppl look for ways to control others to advance their own agendas by making obscure and irrelevant connections to someone’s beliefs.
Mark Dice is the guy who goes out on the street and asks questions. He's in California so no wonder he gets all those dumb answers lol But it would probably be the same in the rest of the country too. He's got a great TH-cam channel and he is a Christian, and from what I can ascertain, he's postmillennial!
Acknowledging Independence Day gives credence to it, rather than a day to drink beer and eat hot dogs. Especially for kids that are not being taught history in school, & what this day represents.
I can definitely know that you don't teach the truth bro. In the Bible Jesus never supported any kimdom in earth and did not involve himself in politics. The only kingdom he supported was the kingdom in the heavens.
"So the United States was actually born out of a violation of New Testament principles, and any blessings God has bestowed on America have come in spite of that disobedience by the Founding Fathers." - John MacArthur.
I think it’s unfair to characterize the founders as bloodthirsty, trigger happy, warmongers. They petitioned against war against the crown at every chance they could, while civilly asking for just governance from the crown and parliament. The Declaration of Independence wasn’t signed and sent to the crown until a year after getting shot at by red coats. They feared war and didn’t want it, but when the crown and parliament refused, they defended themselves.
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It's another man made holiday, more than likely it has pagan roots. The Lord made it clear in the Old Testament he does not want things given to him that have Christian origins. It goes without saying that Christians should not partake in pagan celebrations either. Been a while since I researched this, believe Independence Day was on the 2nd but they changed it to the 4th for reasons...something about the dog star Sirius and/or Midsummers something.
"Should Christians Celebrate 4th of July?" ---- No. ---- King James Bible Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Great episode! My great-great-great-grandfather was a young teen in Virginia when he joined the American forces. He worked on building bulwarks and went back home when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington. He wrote his autobiography at age 90, recounting his life’s journey from Virginia to Georgia to south Mississippi, where he became a farmer and a pastor. He then wrote about his spiritual journey, of being convicted of his sin and being granted salvation. (He stayed up late one night lying on the floor of a cabin where he was being put up for the night, and he started reading Bunyan’s Grace Abounding that he found on a shelf, which played a pivotal part.) In his subsequent study of God’s Word and seeking out sound preaching, he was introduced to the Doctrines of Grace, which made him angry at first but he eventually grew to love and preach until his death in 1855. It is a remarkable story. A little over a year ago I was privileged to sit in the worship service at one of the churches he founded and pastored, close to where his homestead was. I saw his worn Bible that they still have on display and saw his handwritten notes. Fascinating!
Blessed is the nation whose God is The Lord. Psalm 33:12
The founding father's were masons and not for God. Thomas Paine for example wrote a heretical essay/book against God. Don't be fooled that we are a "christian" nation, because we are not. We were not founded by Christians just most Satanists masquerading as angels of light.
There is a great video about who the founding father's really were on youtube somewhere.
Which isn't this one
If you see an ungodly nation before you, then become the change you would like to see.
"The harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few; pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth laborers into his harvest". Matthew 9:37-38
@@estudiantecristiano398 you see a Godly nation here? Oh boy...
@estudiantecristiano398 people pf all religions and God's are free to practice their faiths in America
Make America Godly Again
@@Im_nobody777
Amen🙏🏻
Ammeennnnn!
The United States has been such a gift for the Christian faith. No other nation has offered:
1. Greater freedom to teach and defend Biblical doctrines
2. Greater funding and commission of missionaries
3. Greater defense of God-endowed human rights, nor
4. Greater flexibility to live up to Christian values and ideals on a macro scale
For the Christian, the United States is not an idol to be worshipped but is absolutely an ideal to be revered and fought for.
God Bless Americans
God Bless America
Trump will save our country in 2025!!
Amen brother!
Love this 🫡
Christians, Mormons, Muslims, Catholics and whatever other religion you can think of are free to practice their faiths in America.
@@EnumaElish200 but the Christian faith outdoes them all for it is the truth!
Absolutely. God’s providence was all over the Revolutionary War.
What about the Civil War?
@@EarlSimmons-f2n God is sovereign. Nothing happens unless He allows it (not necessarily approving of what’s happened) or unless He causes it to happen.
@@siegistic how do you distinguish providence for one war vs another?
@@EarlSimmons-f2n I never said God’s providence wasn’t over every war. Of course it is.
But there are wars where God makes it more obvious to the non-theologically oriented.
@@siegistic I'm not theologically oriented, no war seems to be godly, especially for the men fighting it. That's why I am asking, how do you know, other than just intuition?
I loved every second! I’m Canadian and love that Puritan heritage you all have, I learned a ton!
thank you
@@MaxvanBrian yes!! Puritans cleansing themselves from the catholic church is pretty cool 😎
Well done! I am 70 yr old amateur historian. I thought that it’s been quite a long time since I’ve heard a recount of the early American struggle against Britain in quite an educative, informative, and entertaining manner. Kudos!
Bahnsen U is amazing! Thank you so much for providing this blessing!
Wow great history lesson! Thanks Zach Lautenschlager. God bless you all
TIMESTAMPS:
2:55 show starts
11:42 Should Christians celebrate the fourth of July? Why?
13:35 Christian warfare, English law history
25:30 the colonies are established, 1600s
33:50 mid-1700s, the power stuggle between parliament and the crown
39:51 Key phrase: "taxation without representation" & rum
50:14 spilling the tea on where to spend your money & economic protests
1:04:43 aftermath of the tea protest & beginning of the war
1:17:50 the history of the army in England & how that connects to 1776
1:23:05 closing thoughts
You provide a valuable service. thank you!
#real_MVP
Thank you.
If it’s a sin to love this great country then I got some praying to do
Fantastic, God bless America and Christian patriots
I could listen to 14 hours of this! God bless y’all and God bless these United States of America!
One of the best, if not THE BEST summary of USA History of The War for Religious Independence. Great podcast
I would listen to this brothers podcast if you had one. As a fellow history geek, I salute you.
Outstanding episode. Thanks for feeding this history geek's appetite.
I was in Boston in 2012 for the reenactment of the Tea Party. It was soooo fun!
Zach makes a big mistake at 34:20. Washington, Jefferson, The Lewis family, the Clark family, and the Lee family are descendents of Cavaliers, not Puritans. They sided with the king in the English Civil War. This is significant because the Puritan/Cavalier conflict is a precursor to the divisions of the Civil War.
Yes, yes they should.
Romans 14:5-6 stands and its not a question of should for others too make for us...our goal is to glorify God. Im blessed to be an American citizen born by Providence in this time and age. I pray God shows Mercy on our nation for the sinful lives our GOV upholds and allows.
That was SO Awesome!
Thank-you!!!
Do Christians want to remain free? Of course. We should value & celebrate our independence more than anyone else.
Ecclesiastes 3:8
Good topic. I’ll be watching with the hot dogs on the grill and baseball on the tv. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Of course they should. They simply must measure their love for their nation by their love for their creator, and make sure they aren't idolizing it. But, they can be thankful for the blessing God has shown, and pray for national repentance.
Jesus said to obey authorities like police, pay your taxes ect for they are out there for justice for god alows them in this temporary world. but I don’t know about celebrating a world country that won’t exist once gods kingdom is here. In the end it’s man made, voting for a president isn’t biblical if you are a true servant of Jesus because that should be the only kingdom you devote your life too. It is said man shouldn’t govern man like the Bible says, it leads to what is happening now it’s been corrupt and will KEEP becoming more corrupt through every year we celebrate it just like the Bible profitized . Every nation on top will fall just like the Bible has profitized with ancient Egypt, Asiria, Greece Ancient Rome ect. If you’re on top one day even if it’s thousands of years later you will fall. And so will this nation. I don’t know but I truly believe yes we are the “greatest nation” for now but it will come with a consequence just as it did to past nations and I believe it will be with the coming of Christ since this nation if extremely lost to god with all the lgbt nonsense in schools to kids that god knows shouldn’t be exposed to. All in all if we follow a nation and celebrate it we should be celebrating more our kingdom coming of Jesus Christ. If not you are hipocrite if you choose to still live to vote or celebrate for a temporary nation. Like this video says “do those actions please god?” It’s something for all of us to meditate.
@@eliascastanon3505 Are you Amish or Mennonite?
@@christalone71 How’s it going brother? I was born and raised a Jehovah’s witness but after trying to prove my catholic girlfriend wrong and seeing that I was deceived the further I dove into the Bible I now I want to witness the one and only Jesus Christ throughout my life. I still sin and am struggling with sin daily but I know Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Like I said there’s many things to meditate about throughout our life including these holidays
The light*
@@eliascastanon3505 Very happy to hear that you have come out of that cult. Praise the Lord for that. I pray your gf is also truly saved and knows the Lord. You seem to be truly zealous for truth. Glad you are here listening to their podcast. I've learned a lot from them. Is "the light" a Christian organization or group? Sorry if I am asking too many questions.
This is superb. Thank you. I'm studying history now...American and all others. I've been ashamed of how ignorant I am about my own great nation.
Greetings from Dublin @Luke the Bear. Jeff, Zac and Zach
Greeting my Friend
Dublin huh; well E.A.N. Bro!!-)
Great history lesson
This was awesome. Now I’m gonna have to watch the patriot tonight
Think I heard of that. Who’s in that again?
Happy 4th brethren, God bless you.
Great episode, guys!
Of course we should celebrate
-USA became free from british empire. The US was founded on christian principles
-we.are free from the catholic church which was a centralized church that charged high taxes and wanted to control citizens. Americans wanted to be free from the unpleasant papacy and control of the catholic church.
- ITs amazing how the best most free country in the world was founded on protestant christian principles.
-thank you for being inolved the the young country, brother John Wesley!!
God bless america!!!
And we took away someone else’s land . How lame
@@RippedJym”we” did no such thing. Where are you messaging from anyway? America?
@@RippedJym I didn't take anyone's land, I don't know of any living american who took the US from anybody. However the natives here's did the same with one another. Terrible argument
No BBQ here in Bama! Heat and Humidity is no joke. Thank you for this podcast!
That's right lol. Here in baldwin county it's miserable lol
For sure. I'm in N. Alabama near Decatur. Hotter than Hades and much more humid lol
To what extent should another christian's weakness prevent me from exercising my God-given freedom?
Weakness and ignorance.
How about you prove your freedoms are “God” given 1st. Just because the authors of the constitution thought so doesn’t mean God gave you them. Unless you’re assuming all rights given to Americans are God given, which would mean the right to an ab0rtion is perfectly fine is some states.
@@Yela927 The rights in the constitution are inherent to us as human being since we image-bearers of God, so they came from the Creator and are protected by the constitution. The example that you used isn't a right. Its a violation of one of the rights inherent to humans given by God, so it should and will be banned
@@OfficerTyreek name one right in the constitution that is upheld by explicitly in the Bible.
@@Yela927 "You shall not murder" upheld by the "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in the constitution and enshrined in laws against murder
I appreciate listening to this before going to witness the actual sky being lit on fire. Happy Independence day everyone, may God bring us to a place of a Christian nation once again, not like the old, which had a lot of good. Rather a better, more sanctified, more righteous nation. At the end of it all, not our will, but the Lord's.
Would love to see Zach talk about and draw the nearly identical comparisons to the War of Northern Aggression against the South.
War of Independece: Tax revolt
War of Northern Agression: Tax revolt
Would love to see this discussed through Apologia Studios!
Thanks for letting us know up front that the answer is “yes.” 😅 That was kind for those of us who were preparing for a proper response if you answered “no.” 😂😜🇺🇸🙏🏼✝️
Yes.
This was this was truly a treat 🇺🇸
I have a feeling this will be a long show to timestamp when the premiere finishes.
This was an epic history lesson.
Yes 🧨.
Great history lesson. You love for you to talk to David Barton from Wallbuilders.
Amazing
Good ep!
i think ive returned to this bout 4 times
The only thing that ever made any of us worthy to the task of freedom, the only thing that ever could, is what Christ accomplished for us on the cross. If we reject that, then we definitely do not deserve freedom, and we shall not have it. We will instead deserve every bit of God's righteous judgment that we receive in its place.
✝️🇺🇸🙏🏾
Catholicism was established in the colony of New Brunswick. Not Canada as a whole.
Also there was a Catholic American colony, Maryland.
i learnt some american history (im canadian), good vid.
Was the question answered?
The answer is yes.
RE the state forcing someone to pray to Mary or be put to death (around 37:40):
What happened to being a martyr? Jesus did say His disciples would be persecuted (John 15:20).
armour can block some arrows depends the angle it hits and shields r gud
1:40 in, I finally let out a deep exhale. I was worried by the title that he was going to say no
were there not war crimes in biblical accounts enacted by the chosen?
Yes and celebration isn’t worship. To me, celebrating anything is about gratitude
My man Zachary "Delta" Conover! ("Delta" force!)
Of course they should! The problem with America right now is not enough celebration of it.
Zach should start his own history podcast. I could listen to him talk about history all day. My job gives me that liberty.
Wow!!
I want to know how I can reach Jeff Durbin personally I’ve been looking at the church and I can’t find an email or anyway I can reach him. I would love to talk to him personally about a personal matter. I need help with something that I’m sure I could help him with also.
Natives for the win 😊
Now that think of it im a Imperalist I serve my king my Lord and my God and my rights are inhalable that means if my Goverment creates any law causing me to sin by obeying them I must obey God and not man amen!
It seems so far like no nuance allowed or any look at the New Testament picture we have in acts. Peter doesn’t seem to fight for his right to live and provide. Now I’m not against self protection or even war but so far they seem to not be addressing the book of Acts and the lack of violence from Christians
I want to hear someone talk through those tensions
@@Postmillhighlights he states its sinful to not provide for your family. It is a very black and white statement without looking at the whole body of scripture and other examples we have of apostles not providing for their family and actually dying for sharing the gospel with a wife at home such as Peter (at minimum he had a wife possibly children too). There seems to be a lack of discussion about how does the tension of what they are claiming and what we see in the book of Acts and how the apostles and others in the early church died without armed resistance for preaching the gospel.
There doesn't seem to be teaching in this video (i only got 3/4ths through so maybe its still to come) about when is it appropriate to not fight back or not provide for your family. Again I think its not the norm by any stretch, but the absolute language they use about not providing for your family and how sinful it is seems to not consider parts of scripture.
When is it biblical and when isn't it. I first heard the revolutionary war possibly wasn't biblical from John McArthur when he clearly said it wasn't biblical and any blessings are not because of their decision but in spite of it and God still blessed the US through it. (this was in his first conversation with Ben Shapiro probably 6 years ago or so..?)
Also just to be clear I celebrate the 4th of July, we pray for our nation every Sunday at the church I attend. So I am not anti America
Why are we asking this. I’m confused
Because a lot of christians think it was a sinful rebellion to leave England, the church, and fight for freedom.
Did Y o u T u b e take the audio for this down? I don't hear it
True Godly Gangsters 🍻
Not anymore! Not until this country repents.
Lol
@@joem13yearsago73 You think God's judgment is funny?
@@crewdog2898 You neither know, much less care, anything about me. I'm actually working, like I do every day but Sunday. But, again, you don't know or care anything about me.
I think Chrisitans can celebrate the blessings God had graciously shown to this country, and be thankful for the freedom we still enjoy, while also praying for national repentance.
@@Yesica1993 Good for you.
Hate to say it but this was a history lesson and didn’t really cover the biblical side. I guess I was expecting more of the just war theory to be touched on. Maybe a future episode? If Bahnsen and Wilson already addressed it might feel like saturation but you guys draw your own crowd, too, you know.
Covering the biblical side has never been Durbin's strength as a Theonomist. The more biblical you are the less you can be a Theonomist.
@@PsychoSpartan7 what an unhelpful comment
Should Christians tell other Christians what to do?
Uh yeah… if it can stop them from stumbling, absolutely. If you saw a professing Christian committing idolatry, wouldn’t you tell em? Come on buddy
@@Judoka512
I’d expect a Christian to know he’s doing wrong in the first place. And we’re talking about 4th of July, not infidelity.
@@vwr32jeep I think your expectations exceed reality. Not everyone knows they’re in sin, or are partaking in a certain sin all the time. Many times a brother or a sister have to bring it to their attention
@@Judoka512
And I think ppl generally know the difference between right and wrong. Beyond that, I think some ppl look for ways to control others to advance their own agendas by making obscure and irrelevant connections to someone’s beliefs.
@@vwr32jeepidolatry
war bows were from 100lbs+ but yes up to 200lbs from what iv heard
Mark Dice is the guy who goes out on the street and asks questions. He's in California so no wonder he gets all those dumb answers lol But it would probably be the same in the rest of the country too. He's got a great TH-cam channel and he is a Christian, and from what I can ascertain, he's postmillennial!
Mark is awesome
@@andreatimmers1720 Very much so.
Impressive talker this man is. 1 question and he takes 2 hours with no break
Amazing US history lesson of God's handprints all over it 😁😁😁😁😁
6:44 Mark Dice!
I've foolishly watched/listened for over an hour and still no answer to the question in the title.
Mark Dice is who you're thinking of
6:40
Its independence day.
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Sorry, Kid Rock. It’s not about your crappy beer choices.
Mark Dice does the public interviews
Do you say "Merry 25th of December"? Of course not. For the same reason, please stop calling Independence Day "the fourth of july."
Non-issue.
Acknowledging Independence Day gives credence to it, rather than a day to drink beer and eat hot dogs. Especially for kids that are not being taught history in school, & what this day represents.
That's a valid point now that I think about it.
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@Quint-ib4nf Exactly what do you mean by he went crazy?
Why do I hear Joe Rogan’s voice?
I got an ad on this video with Obama trying to convince me to donate $5 to Biden's campaign.
I get them endlessly, let them waste campaign dollars targeting the wrong audience 😂😂😂
I can definitely know that you don't teach the truth bro. In the Bible Jesus never supported any kimdom in earth and did not involve himself in politics. The only kingdom he supported was the kingdom in the heavens.
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"So the United States was actually born out of a violation of New Testament principles, and any blessings God has bestowed on America have come in spite of that disobedience by the Founding Fathers." - John MacArthur.
I think it’s unfair to characterize the founders as bloodthirsty, trigger happy, warmongers. They petitioned against war against the crown at every chance they could, while civilly asking for just governance from the crown and parliament. The Declaration of Independence wasn’t signed and sent to the crown until a year after getting shot at by red coats. They feared war and didn’t want it, but when the crown and parliament refused, they defended themselves.
@@Postmillhighlightsthey always look at Romans 13 as only applying to one side 😂
According to Gary North absolutely not.
Stay tuned once you subscribe like and then pay for membership or subscription then Jeff will reveal all, because you know it's the show after the show clip. #HappyFourthOfJuly
Listen to Pastor Paul Washer, Tim Conway etc
It's another man made holiday, more than likely it has pagan roots. The Lord made it clear in the Old Testament he does not want things given to him that have Christian origins. It goes without saying that Christians should not partake in pagan celebrations either.
Been a while since I researched this, believe Independence Day was on the 2nd but they changed it to the 4th for reasons...something about the dog star Sirius and/or Midsummers something.
No, Christians should only celebrate Christ. But Christians can honor the country to maintain peace with the country's culture.
It is a pagan holiday.
Cant we celebrate others holidays with them?
Russia and Ukraine. The Donbass.
Yes, because it was liberation from International jewry.
"Should Christians Celebrate 4th of July?"
---- No.
---- King James Bible Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.