Had to laugh at the Samaritan Ministries ad followed by the cigar ad. Maybe they changed it since we left their ministry, but Samaritan did not allow you to become a member if you regularly smoked.
This is so disheartening about L. Duncan. I’ve been doing Wednesday Bible broadcasts going through his book, “Proclaiming a Cross-Centered Theology!” The work is wonderful but how can he fight for such a strong biblical worldview and abandon common sense during the pandemic?
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I don't think we should label different approaches other than our own as dualistic. Reformed theology's strength is in providing helpful distinctives, which are essential to understanding the Bible. Law/Gospel distinction, Old Covenant/New Covenant, Covenant of Works/Covenant of Grace, Justification/Sanctification, Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Man, Special Revelation/Natural Revelation, Special Grace/Common Grace, Church Militant/Church Triumphant, Archetypal/Ectypal, etc...
Does anyone have a link to the full conversation with Ligon? I think it *_might_* be useful to reach out to the platform he was on, and see if they’d have Apologia or CrossPolitic on to bring light to the other side of the issue. It sounds as if the interviewer was operating out of ignorance as well. Proverbs 18:17 (NASB95): 17 The first to plead his case seems right, Until another comes and examines him.
@@TrevorEmptage I found the original video. I directly encouraged the interviewer to have the other side on and his response was, “Stay tuned…” so hopefully he’s working on getting Doug, or Toby, maybe someone from Apologia on to have a conversation. With some of the remarks he made I think it would be a real eye opener for him.
Does anyone in these comments happen to be post-mill and living in the UK? Please reply if so, I am looking to meet and gather more post-mill brothers in the UK.
I don't know the context. I'm only going off what they described in the video. But based on what I've learned about the particular way ahlzheimers shows up in very intelligent and educated people, it sounds like Ligon might have it. I have a family member who recently got diagnosed and he is a very theologically intellectual guy and it seemed like the dementia came out of nowhere but we've been told that when people are very intelligent then it's often not seen at first because their brains can figure out ways of coping much longer than most. But they will start slipping on things you'd expect them to know. It happened to my relative but people thought "oh he's just getting older" but now looking back is like "oh, that was the ahlzheimers". Another sign is the brain having more trouble after sunset. Like, sun goes down and brain shuts down. So if that is a struggle for BigLig then he really might have this.
No, we do not need to validate Ligon "true believer" status. A true believer repents, away from lies, towards truth. Would love to see Ligon confirm his calling and election... and any others that have strayed, stumbled.. twisted the word of God.
The test of your orthodoxy is not mere profession but practice. People work and act out of what they actually believe, proving themselves to be liars or sincere. Ligon has not proven sincerity, needs to be rebuked and counted as an unbeliever unless he repents.
Umm... this seems pretty onesided by apologia to not have a link on what they are responding to. I have no idea what BigLig said other than the little clip they showed like halfway through so I'm highly confused.
@@nathanlr It's not a matter of liking or not liking them. Sometimes I agree and other times I vehemently disagree with them. But all these chatterboxes go on each other's podcasts. Pretty much discussing the same thing over and over again. Or I should say the same people over and over again. It's how it works in Podcast Universe. I interview you and then you interview me and then we will both join in a slag fest on another channel. The script is pretty much the same no matter who the pod-jockey is. When you listen to one you've listened to them all.
You guys do not understand the problem. The problem is not secular atheist governments, and it's not Christian nationalist governments. The problem IS government. Even King David, a man after God's own heart could not be trusted to rule over others.
@@JesusistheonetrueGod Almost everything but, the greatest problem with the State today is that it is non-voluntary. If I am unhappy with the State my only real option is to out of their away. During Covid I was unable to leave Canada because I did not have the proper paperwork.
May I suggest pastor Jeff to display a scripture or different image above your head in the studio. That logo is very concerning and not holy trinity. Acts 17v29
Yeah sure lets talk about it. Now that its over and all of the prophecy given was proven to be false (as it was clearly false before) i would like to know what you want to talk about?
I’ll say this much though; I think it’s hypocritical to want Christ as King in this country and be content to elect an open reprobate like Trump! He’s not even trying to show repentance. James O’Keefe said it best: “What’s our price? If it’s not our lives, we can be bought!” If we are not willing to sacrifice our vote for people of Christian character; then we are not willing to fight for Christ in this country.
Voting is not that simple. It's a matter of wisdom. I'm not voting for Trump because I think he's a Christian. I'm voting for Trump because I think it's the best use of my vote.
So you are ok with a person like Biden as President. Openly pushing the lgbtq agenda and destroying kids lives with gender ideology. Really, and the FBI is going after the Catholic Church and anyone who goes against the agenda of the lgbtq. Please wake up.
You mean waste your vote. You aren’t “sacrificing” anything when you pull the lever for someone that has no chance of winning. You are “sacrificing” our children’s future. I love how you bash Trump but place O’Keefe on a pedestal….LOL
So, the weak argument is presented that not voting for Trump is a wasted vote. That is the definition of stupidity. That’s like saying voting between 1, 2 & 3 but because 1 & 2 is more common; a vote for 3 is a vote or the anti- 1 or 2. Pure common core math being taught to far too many people with the right to vote. A vote for 3rd party is a vote for 3rd party. Sprinkle stupid logical fallacies all you want.
@@ManofManySorrows wasted vote is a logical fallacy! That’s like a leftist arguing that not supporting a lifestyle means you hate all the people of that lifestyle! Have a great day.
You’re not “Orthodox” you are a “orthodox Calvinistic Protestant”. You deny the nicene creed in reality, but give lip service to believing it. You got your Bible from the Church you consider to be heretics, and the only resemblance you have to the historic church is the parts of one church Father you agree with and disregard everything else he believed. Who was canonized by the Church you deem heretical also. We should DEFINITELY listen to you on how the law of God should be applied by the state.
@@jamesriley9517 Yeah, but I’m not coming from the RC position. You know Augustine venerated the blessed Mother of God, and believed in infant baptism for the remission of sins right?
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Jumping for the jab explains a lot of his motivation. Never forget.
This just shows how much the Reformers are impacting the culture these days. Christ is on the Throne baby!
Semper Reformada
Grace and peace to these OGs in the Faith!!
A debate needs to be setup.
Had to laugh at the Samaritan Ministries ad followed by the cigar ad. Maybe they changed it since we left their ministry, but Samaritan did not allow you to become a member if you regularly smoked.
This is so disheartening about L. Duncan. I’ve been doing Wednesday Bible broadcasts going through his book, “Proclaiming a Cross-Centered Theology!” The work is wonderful but how can he fight for such a strong biblical worldview and abandon common sense during the pandemic?
Once again top notch stuff!
They started writing the confession in 1643. It was finished in 1647.
The larping conversation at 39:30 is wonderful. Jeff, that was an amazing demonstration! 😂😂
Great discussion
Amen
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I don't think we should label different approaches other than our own as dualistic. Reformed theology's strength is in providing helpful distinctives, which are essential to understanding the Bible. Law/Gospel distinction, Old Covenant/New Covenant, Covenant of Works/Covenant of Grace, Justification/Sanctification, Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Man, Special Revelation/Natural Revelation, Special Grace/Common Grace, Church Militant/Church Triumphant, Archetypal/Ectypal, etc...
Does anyone have a link to the full conversation with Ligon? I think it *_might_* be useful to reach out to the platform he was on, and see if they’d have Apologia or CrossPolitic on to bring light to the other side of the issue. It sounds as if the interviewer was operating out of ignorance as well.
Proverbs 18:17 (NASB95): 17 The first to plead his case seems right,
Until another comes and examines him.
Wrath and Grace sadly platformed it.. and have a history of showing only one side.
@@TrevorEmptage I found the original video. I directly encouraged the interviewer to have the other side on and his response was, “Stay tuned…” so hopefully he’s working on getting Doug, or Toby, maybe someone from Apologia on to have a conversation. With some of the remarks he made I think it would be a real eye opener for him.
Can someone post a link? Watching the current video feels like being thrown in a dark cave because I have no context for what they are responding to
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Channel is called Room for Nuance, the thumbnail says, “Is Theonomy the Answer?”
Does anyone in these comments happen to be post-mill and living in the UK? Please reply if so, I am looking to meet and gather more post-mill brothers in the UK.
I don't know the context. I'm only going off what they described in the video. But based on what I've learned about the particular way ahlzheimers shows up in very intelligent and educated people, it sounds like Ligon might have it. I have a family member who recently got diagnosed and he is a very theologically intellectual guy and it seemed like the dementia came out of nowhere but we've been told that when people are very intelligent then it's often not seen at first because their brains can figure out ways of coping much longer than most. But they will start slipping on things you'd expect them to know. It happened to my relative but people thought "oh he's just getting older" but now looking back is like "oh, that was the ahlzheimers". Another sign is the brain having more trouble after sunset. Like, sun goes down and brain shuts down. So if that is a struggle for BigLig then he really might have this.
This was great
Ligon has since gone on the same podcast "Room for nuance" for a 2nd time to double down. Evangelical Dark Web has just done a YT video on it today.
No, we do not need to validate Ligon "true believer" status. A true believer repents, away from lies, towards truth. Would love to see Ligon confirm his calling and election... and any others that have strayed, stumbled.. twisted the word of God.
The test of your orthodoxy is not mere profession but practice. People work and act out of what they actually believe, proving themselves to be liars or sincere. Ligon has not proven sincerity, needs to be rebuked and counted as an unbeliever unless he repents.
This seems like the same cowering that resulted in "complimentarianism".
Umm... this seems pretty onesided by apologia to not have a link on what they are responding to. I have no idea what BigLig said other than the little clip they showed like halfway through so I'm highly confused.
Unless you all live in one territory nothing will happen. Also, without the ruler on board nothing will happen.
We are the salt of earth.
It goes from there
This is the same content that was on cross politics show?
Apologia studios?? Yes
cross pollination. It's a thing with these dudes.
@@RecalledtoLife a simple yes or no would have sufficed. Sounds like you don't like them?
@@nathanlr It's not a matter of liking or not liking them. Sometimes I agree and other times I vehemently disagree with them. But all these chatterboxes go on each other's podcasts. Pretty much discussing the same thing over and over again. Or I should say the same people over and over again. It's how it works in Podcast Universe. I interview you and then you interview me and then we will both join in a slag fest on another channel. The script is pretty much the same no matter who the pod-jockey is. When you listen to one you've listened to them all.
@@RecalledtoLifeso you don’t like them
Brevity is the soul of wit.😬
Sounds like Ligon is scared of something. Low T.
the LARPing thing has been thrown around in the 2a community as well. Professionals thinking the citizens shouldn't be armed and practicing.
You guys do not understand the problem. The problem is not secular atheist governments, and it's not Christian nationalist governments. The problem IS government. Even King David, a man after God's own heart could not be trusted to rule over others.
What is the problem with government?
@@JesusistheonetrueGod Almost everything but, the greatest problem with the State today is that it is non-voluntary. If I am unhappy with the State my only real option is to out of their away. During Covid I was unable to leave Canada because I did not have the proper paperwork.
@@CanPat777 I understand your woes. In Canada you all have a lot more to deal with than we do here in the USA.
This is a repeat of last week’s show…right?
I have no idea what's going on
Jeff will literally put someone in the fetal position 🥋
May I suggest pastor Jeff to display a scripture or different image above your head in the studio. That logo is very concerning and not holy trinity. Acts 17v29
That is literally the Celtic trinity knot
Tatoos, cigars, etc..... Pfffffffttt !!!
Uhhhh, ok.
Can we please talk about the eclipse
Eclipses are beautiful events created by God... but the bible doesn't indicate that the rapture is supposed to happen today.
Yeah sure lets talk about it. Now that its over and all of the prophecy given was proven to be false (as it was clearly false before) i would like to know what you want to talk about?
Ha. Ha. I think I was the only one to get the joke.
Stop the silly games and get him on apologia studio
I’ll say this much though; I think it’s hypocritical to want Christ as King in this country and be content to elect an open reprobate like Trump! He’s not even trying to show repentance. James O’Keefe said it best: “What’s our price? If it’s not our lives, we can be bought!” If we are not willing to sacrifice our vote for people of Christian character; then we are not willing to fight for Christ in this country.
Voting is not that simple. It's a matter of wisdom. I'm not voting for Trump because I think he's a Christian. I'm voting for Trump because I think it's the best use of my vote.
So you are ok with a person like Biden as President. Openly pushing the lgbtq agenda and destroying kids lives with gender ideology. Really, and the FBI is going after the Catholic Church and anyone who goes against the agenda of the lgbtq. Please wake up.
You mean waste your vote. You aren’t “sacrificing” anything when you pull the lever for someone that has no chance of winning. You are “sacrificing” our children’s future. I love how you bash Trump but place O’Keefe on a pedestal….LOL
So, the weak argument is presented that not voting for Trump is a wasted vote. That is the definition of stupidity. That’s like saying voting between 1, 2 & 3 but because 1 & 2 is more common; a vote for 3 is a vote or the anti- 1 or 2. Pure common core math being taught to far too many people with the right to vote. A vote for 3rd party is a vote for 3rd party. Sprinkle stupid logical fallacies all you want.
@@ManofManySorrows wasted vote is a logical fallacy! That’s like a leftist arguing that not supporting a lifestyle means you hate all the people of that lifestyle! Have a great day.
Luke needs some sleep or some NAD bro looks tired.
Promote cigars is promote an habit what's not glorify the Lord and is against the temple of the Holy Spirit.
You’re not “Orthodox” you are a “orthodox Calvinistic Protestant”.
You deny the nicene creed in reality, but give lip service to believing it.
You got your Bible from the Church you consider to be heretics, and the only resemblance you have to the historic church is the parts of one church Father you agree with and disregard everything else he believed. Who was canonized by the Church you deem heretical also.
We should DEFINITELY listen to you on how the law of God should be applied by the state.
😂😂😂😂
@@Brandon.Germany care to expand that reaction?
The Mary thing? Indulgences? Relic obsession? You don’t think reformation was necessary?
@@jamesriley9517 Yeah, but I’m not coming from the RC position. You know Augustine venerated the blessed Mother of God, and believed in infant baptism for the remission of sins right?