Now I love both of these guys they are part of my soundtrack of my life. I’m not taking sides just like a marriage people grow apart and want to do other things other adventures. They both have a great legacy of great music. Hopefully they can move forward be free to pursue their ambitions God bless both of them with good health 💯💕☺️☮️
I met John Oates in late 80s. He was in Montreal for F1 race. Shared a table with him at Winston Churchill's on Crescent St. Super nice and down to earth guy - we discussed car racing and not music.
First heard them in '74 with She's Gone, they seemed very cool in the '70's. The '80's brought hits like I Can't Go For That and Out Of Touch and they sounded great. Daryl's solo albums are excellent.
This is all very sad. Regardless of what the actual truth is, they're both at the end of their lives. They were like brothers. You guys gotta put your differences behind. Whatever they may be.
Almost all artists do their best work as young adults. Hall&Oates are no exception. That doesn't mean they should copy their younger selves; it's just the way it is.
What a whiner. The only reason John Oates has a significant reputation is BECAUSE of Daryl Hall. Brutal truth: John Oates became a huge pop star off the back of Daryl Hall. John is talented but never would've had the career he's had, or earned the money he has, without his association with Daryl Hall who wrote and sang 75% or more of the songs. There are numerous #1 "Hall & Oates" hits that John Oates neither plays nor sings on. Mugging in a music video or dancing on stage with isn't the same as actually writing, singing, or playing on a record. John Oates has been checked out of Hall & Oates for most of the last 30 years. Collecting a paycheck. That makes it comparatively easy for him to cash out. Daryl Hall has been100% in it on every record, at every show, from day 1 until now. For Oates to try to steal Daryl's control over how his name, likeness, and legacy are represented going forward -- in legal violation of their partnership agreement -- is despicable. This is Daryl Hall's ongoing life's work. Again, John Oates is a talented singer/songwriter but would never have become a big pop star because that's not really what he's great at writing nor performing. John Oates ruined his own reputation by attempting to f**k over Daryl Hall, and getting caught in the act. Laziness and shadiness with a big cherry of entitlement on top is a perfect recipe for ruining his "nice guy" reputation all by himself.
What value is the contribution of inspiration, even it takes the form of John Oats. Are the Beatles any worse off with Ringo in the band, who contributed little in the way of songwriting duties?
@@DrunkenRhinoceros not the same situation, on a couple of levels. 1) The Beatles were a band, Daryl Hall & John Oates were a duo. 2) Ringo played drums on all but a couple Beatles songs. John Oates did not play guitar on hundreds of Hall & Oates songs. 3) While Lennon & McCartney may have been inspired by and writing towards Ringo's drumming style, Daryl Hall most definitely was not writing towards John Oates' guitar style. The records and live bands always included a highly capable lead guitarist who did the heavy lifting (e.g. Chris Bond, Todd Sharp, Caleb Quaye, G.E. Smith, Pat Buchanan, T-Bone Wolk, Paul Pesco, Jimmy Rip, Richie Cerniglia, Jeff Catania, and Shane Theriot). Plus Steve Lukather, Jay Graydon, Dave Stewart, Robert Fripp, and Rick Nielsen, to name a few, who contributed guitar on records only. The only instance where I can think of Daryl Hall writing a song and guitar part inspired by the style of John Oates is "Time Won't Pass Me By" -- and another guitarist played the part on the record. Daryl and T-Bone selected and arranged a cover "What You See Is What You Get" for John on the 'Our Kind of Soul' album. Not a lot of examples in a 50 year career.
@@iconoclassicrecords So bands that used the 'Wrecking Crew' to make their hit records, are they justified in getting all the money and musical credits that session musicians did behind the scenes? Whether John Oates played guitar on any records is mute; Oates did contribute vocally, and Hall and Oates made money from the duo, whether you like it or not.
@@MrNatural-fq1tq I haven't made a single comment about money. But to use the Wrecking Crew example: if Al Jardine surreptitiously attempted to sell the rights to Brian Wilson's personal name & likeness to a third party while Brian was still alive, in violation of a written partnership agreement between them, and additionally attempted to sell related jointly-owned intellectual property such as "The Beach Boys," "Pet Sounds," all merchandizing rights, all online band properties (website, social media, etc.), and the exclusive ability to stage Beach Boys and Pet Sounds performances, whether by musicians, actors or holograms -- again, in violation of a written partnership agreement -- and THEN Al got caught in the act, blocked by the court, and went on national television to whine and play the victim -- then yes, I'd take issue with Al Jardine. And I happen to love Al's contribution to the Beach Boys, while also correctly recognizing it as a minority creative contribution versus that of Brian Wilson.
People Daryl Hall and John Oates are men, this happens, we are all human, we hope that one day they make peace, but only the future will tell, they are both very talented, but life is like that, but we hope that they will be friends one day, who knows? 🎉🎉🎉😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
I Recently attended a Darryl Hall concert he sounded great after all these years. I also saw Hall & Oates back in the early days before they ever achieved massive success. I think I preferred the earlier struggling musicians more than seeing Darryl Hall performing with his backup band performing the hits from the past.
Private Eyes had been watching both of them, their kisses were not on each others list, and though the Female Man Eaters couldn't take them down. They had a ONE ON ONE situation of becoming OUT OF TOUCH- birthing a betrayal. They couldn't go for that" partnership. NO CAN DO>
my cousin worked at the china club in nyc in the 1980s. she said daryl hall and billy squier were the two biggest jerks out of all musicians she dealt with
I believe that. I met Billy Squier once. That kind of came through. He seemed to speak on a different level than others. No interaction with Hall or Oates though.
@@trebillis7399 your right because my cousin said squier wasnt a typical jerk its that he had elitist attitude about him he would only interact with people he felt were on his level he didnt curse people out or anything like that
It's sad it has come to this. Great band with some very good songs. I've seen them many times, aways a great show. I really like the Beauty on the Backstreets tour and album.
I saw Hall & Oates in the early 1990's. They were gigging at an Amusement Park in Northern VA. I was shocked. Then Again I also saw Wynonna Judd gigging there as well.
People have different visions for growth. When communication breaks down, bad things happen. Hopefully those bitter feelings from yesteryear can be set aside, and the joy of the music they created can once again be brought forward as it was originally. Imagine how well received a reunion tour would be.
If Waters & Gilmour can agree to sell their Pink Floyd catalog, then I'd say Hall & Oates should have been a no-brainer. It's not what I like either, but it's how it's done today and Daryl Hall needs to realize this. Just take the money in your advanced age and enjoy your final years.
Not comparable. Pink Floyd's members came to an agreement to sell all of Pink Floyd's assets to Sony. Roger Waters didn't go behind David Gilmour's back, in violation of a legal partnership to sell to Sony and then get caught while a mediation process was already ongoing.
People used to joke about how Oates did nothing and it was Hall's band. But if that was the case Hall would have had a better solo career. Oates was a very important part. Hall has no right in saying Oates held him back. As far as the business relationship I can see however why Hall may object to Oates selling his publishing rights to a corporation. Too bad they could not work it out.
If all the huge hits that John Oates DOESN'T EVEN APPEAR ON had been credited as Daryl Hall records alone, the story would be very different. I'm talking about "Kiss on My List," "Private Eyes," "Did It In a Minute," "One on One, "Say It Isn't So," "Adult Education," "Method of Modern Love," "So Close," "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid," "Everything Your Heart Desires," not to mention a ton of album tracks. Pretty significant list, no?
@@iconoclassicrecords that has only todo with lyrics. No ones knows how many ideas where bounced back & forth during the arrangement process. No credit is given for that. In the end it all doesn’t matter. The facts are he was part of the duo. I wish someone would hold me back. Especially if it gets me the success that they earned.
Humans are complicated and when they tell a story it usually isn't what really happened. it's what they remember, and believe what happened. Besides this most of us suffer from confirmation bias. We fill in the blanks without properly communicating. Most of these problems could have been fixed with proper control of emotions and active listening. It does not matter to me who is right and who is wrong. I am grateful for their incredible music and perhaps both should come together to celebrate this rather than continue to argue about who is right. Just my thoughts
John is pushing 80 and wants to cash out. That is reasonable. Daryl needs to buy John out. I am sure that price is now the issue as I am certain that they both have different values in mind. The lawyers will sort it out. Daryl will buy out John's interests.
Oates is a second tier musician who was in the right place at the right time. Hall is a once in a generation titan who was going to be in the hall of fame no matter who his partner was
Daryl Hall's first two solo albums were a departure from the dual sound, but his last four, not so much. On the other hand, John Oates' six solo albums all sound very different from the dual sound. But it's all good.
@@Hammster69official since Daryl wrote the bulk of the Hall & Oates music and sang lead, that would explain why you can hear a bit of H&O in much of his solo work. Kinda proves the point, doesn’t it …
Both of them are very talented. John has put out some amazing music since they split up. His music is very different from what Hall and Oates did. This could be both of their stories.
This is why only one group leader works. It's not that the others have no say. It's that the group needs structure. A good leader takes good advice from his members, and good members do what their leader says regardless of what those decisions are. You can always disband.
And that’s a good thing they not broke they could do whatever they want without worrying about money💰💰💰 Hall and Oates can go into right now and sell out the venue with no problems. Do you have a rich legacy i’m sorry that way they can’t get along anymore🥹
Unless I walk a mile in their shoes it's not for me to judge. When one is under creative pressure for a prolonged period of time how many of us would remain happy go lucky and easy-going? As the behind the scenes manager with steady successes I imagine Oates was better able to maintain a steadier temperament. I hope they live long enough to get past this.
Daryl wasn't necessarily the "creative force" behind the duo. He was the frontman but John wrote the choruses to their biggest hits "She's Gone", "Maneater" and "Out of Touch".
I'm fine with the fact that he was the main songwriter behind most of their output. Yet in the past, he always gave John credit but it seems just in recent years, he has wanted to revise the history and take almost all the credit for himself. That's kind of weird.
@@yvonnemaisonette9230 I’m assuming you’re not a musician. Everything to general public revolves around lyrics. Nobody ever thinks about the arrangements. I guarantee you Daryl or John brought lyrics to the rehearsal and ideas were bounced back and forth till the final arrangement was done. The sad part about that is you don’t get any credit for that. The arrangement is just as important as the lyrics.
I have always been a Hall & Oates fan. I was 17 in 1980 and loved all their music. In 1985 I moved to New York City and met a guy, a musician who knew both of them. He said John was much more down to earth than Daryl. Regarding Billy Squier, also loved his music. After reading some of the comments about him, I can believe them. He whined like a spoiled baby that the video for Rock Me Tonite ruined his career. I admit he had some kick a$$ music, again I was a big fan of his but blaming a video and the PTB behind it for a career dip is dumb. He seemed so bitter about this, grow up already! Back to Hall & Oates, a pity their relationship came to this but to me they will always be remembered as one of the greatest pop duos of all time. Both gave us some great hits and should be proud of that.
In both of the recent shows that I have seen with Hall and Oates and then just Hall, Daryl constantly complained about the volume of his monitor. He would stop mid-song and complain to the audience that he had a sound guy he would fire after the show. I thought at the first show that it was a fluke. Later, at the second show, several years later, he did the exact same thing. Hall is a great artist. However, the behavior he exhibits live is just insulting to the band, crew, and the audience.
This must be Daryl's side of the story, but I listened to a video months ago, about John telling his side of the story, and its way different than this.
John spoke very respectfully of Daryl, and wished him well, and John said that Daryl has achieved his ultimate goal of being a solo artist. Cause John feels that that is what Daryl wanted all along.
Before the news of John trying to sell the music Oates was on a Los Angeles radio station and told Ellen K...someone is going to cry soon. A week later John blindsided Daryl. He's not so innocent
John Oates was the business man in the partnership. He was the one managing all the stuff while Daryl was the better songwriter and singer. Hall could take all that time off and leave it to Oates. Hall could worry about the future while John is weighed down taking care of the last five decades. Oates got tired. He couldn’t do it, anymore. Either he hands it over to someone else or it all collapses. Hence why there is never any discussion of Daryl stepping up to help John out.
John Oates is simply a malcontent. Throughout the band’s history and in-spite of Strong earnings of Hall and Oates, John always having money problems. The last attempt of bailing himself out of his problems he went behind Daryl’s back in his attempt to sell the band’s catalog. Mr Hall had to slap a lawsuit on his old partner to bring this to a halt. Any damage to his reputation is a direct result of his actions, not Daryl Hall’s.
@ He’s filed Bankruptcy in the past, sold off his airplane and toy’s. He tried to sell Daryl’s share that’s why he was successful in filing injunction. Google it for yourself
I wonder what would have happened if Daryl Hall would have become lead vocalist of Van Halen? Eddie Van Halen begged him when David Lee Roth left Van Halen.
Geez, they had there era back then and times changed. They just toured the last few years until John wen't after half the catalog causing the real devide. Daryl was not ready to sell what was 3/4 his?
Sometimes it's the wife that can break them up behind the scenes (Remember John and Yoko?) albiet, Yoko was not entirely behind the scenes. Not criticizing her, and I don't know the whole story other than what I read about it and what Paul has said in interviews.
I saw Hall at the Mountain Winery last fall and he sucked. Rundgrun played for an hour then Hall came out sat at the piano mumbled through 4 songs then just stood up and walked off. 200.00 per ticket. NEVER AGAIN
My sister when to one of the last Hall and Oates concerts today. She said Hall acted like he hated being there, stared at the keyboard, wnd had no energy. She went to their concert in the 80s and loved it. Hall is an egomaniac.
@@katyf7090 I saw hall and Oates in San Antonio in about 2017, I was front row center so i could see them both very well. Oates was playing and singing his rear off and was stone cold sober, hall, on the other hand was drunk or high or both, he was goofin and started rich girl in the wrong key and you could tell Oates was disappointed. I was too. oates was more professional that day. it's almost like hall had stage fright and had to be toasted to play, he does not seem like that on the TH-cam show.
It's always the same old story They just can't ride out the fame and money There is always one that thinks they're an artist A sneaky one Then the break up....Hall was an ass
It’s kind of amusing and sad that John Oates says that Daryl Hall can now have the solo career he always wanted. The man is 78. I mean, if he hasn’t found satisfaction in the music industry after 50+ years…
I think it really is about power and control. It is tragic. Very sad. Hall does not want to share the limelight with his former musical partner. Actually I suspect that was the original plan. Hall was the lead singer. Mostly. Hall and his manager may have hoped to freeze Oates out. He was just the back up singer right ? I don't condone this. However Hall did the lion's share of the singing etcetera. This is my personal theory built over the years. A secret plan. Maybe I am wrong ? Anyway........
This is very biased on the side of Daryl !!!! As the years progressed we could ALL see John being pushed into the role of a backup singer. John said so in interviews they had their time and now it's over
Partnerships are never a good idea unless you make everything clear in the beginning. Who gets credit, ownership, IP rights, management processes.. of course a couple of musical geniuses don’t think of these things and this is what happens.. I wonder how Bacharach & David, Campbell and Webb and John and Taupin survived intact?
@pb12661 Darryl plays guitar pretty good, and the keyboards, and sings amazing, and and is a good songwriter, and I would definitely go see him if he played near me, and you would have to pay me to go see John Oats
cant stand any of their dorky songs other than darryl halls 1986 song dreamtime. hall was an opportunist who inserted himself into background singing for other better artists ruining their songs
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Now I love both of these guys they are part of my soundtrack of my life. I’m not taking sides just like a marriage people grow apart and want to do other things other adventures. They both have a great legacy of great music. Hopefully they can move forward be free to pursue their ambitions God bless both of them with good health
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@@andreoates8405 finally a legit thought…
I met John Oates in late 80s. He was in Montreal for F1 race. Shared a table with him at Winston Churchill's on Crescent St. Super nice and down to earth guy - we discussed car racing and not music.
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First heard them in '74 with She's Gone, they seemed very cool in the '70's.
The '80's brought hits like I Can't Go For That and Out Of Touch and they sounded great.
Daryl's solo albums are excellent.
I love Hall & Oates. They were my favorite band growing up. So sad over this
Mine too!
Saw them 5 times in concert.✌🏼
@@GlamorousHippie888 aww I only saw them twice
This is all very sad. Regardless of what the actual truth is, they're both at the end of their lives. They were like brothers. You guys gotta put your differences behind. Whatever they may be.
Unfortunate that there is a lot of repetition in this video. The same comments over and over. Not for me.
Yea , that really grinds on me after awhile !
Yeah I can’t go for that , no can do.
Almost all artists do their best work as young adults. Hall&Oates are no exception. That doesn't mean they should copy their younger selves; it's just the way it is.
What a whiner. The only reason John Oates has a significant reputation is BECAUSE of Daryl Hall. Brutal truth: John Oates became a huge pop star off the back of Daryl Hall. John is talented but never would've had the career he's had, or earned the money he has, without his association with Daryl Hall who wrote and sang 75% or more of the songs. There are numerous #1 "Hall & Oates" hits that John Oates neither plays nor sings on. Mugging in a music video or dancing on stage with isn't the same as actually writing, singing, or playing on a record. John Oates has been checked out of Hall & Oates for most of the last 30 years. Collecting a paycheck. That makes it comparatively easy for him to cash out. Daryl Hall has been100% in it on every record, at every show, from day 1 until now. For Oates to try to steal Daryl's control over how his name, likeness, and legacy are represented going forward -- in legal violation of their partnership agreement -- is despicable. This is Daryl Hall's ongoing life's work. Again, John Oates is a talented singer/songwriter but would never have become a big pop star because that's not really what he's great at writing nor performing. John Oates ruined his own reputation by attempting to f**k over Daryl Hall, and getting caught in the act. Laziness and shadiness with a big cherry of entitlement on top is a perfect recipe for ruining his "nice guy" reputation all by himself.
What value is the contribution of inspiration, even it takes the form of John Oats. Are the Beatles any worse off with Ringo in the band, who contributed little in the way of songwriting duties?
@@DrunkenRhinoceros not the same situation, on a couple of levels. 1) The Beatles were a band, Daryl Hall & John Oates were a duo. 2) Ringo played drums on all but a couple Beatles songs. John Oates did not play guitar on hundreds of Hall & Oates songs. 3) While Lennon & McCartney may have been inspired by and writing towards Ringo's drumming style, Daryl Hall most definitely was not writing towards John Oates' guitar style. The records and live bands always included a highly capable lead guitarist who did the heavy lifting (e.g. Chris Bond, Todd Sharp, Caleb Quaye, G.E. Smith, Pat Buchanan, T-Bone Wolk, Paul Pesco, Jimmy Rip, Richie Cerniglia, Jeff Catania, and Shane Theriot). Plus Steve Lukather, Jay Graydon, Dave Stewart, Robert Fripp, and Rick Nielsen, to name a few, who contributed guitar on records only. The only instance where I can think of Daryl Hall writing a song and guitar part inspired by the style of John Oates is "Time Won't Pass Me By" -- and another guitarist played the part on the record. Daryl and T-Bone selected and arranged a cover "What You See Is What You Get" for John on the 'Our Kind of Soul' album. Not a lot of examples in a 50 year career.
@@iconoclassicrecords So bands that used the 'Wrecking Crew' to make their hit records, are they justified in getting all the money and musical credits that session musicians did behind the scenes? Whether John Oates played guitar on any records is mute; Oates did contribute vocally, and Hall and Oates made money from the duo, whether you like it or not.
@@MrNatural-fq1tq I haven't made a single comment about money. But to use the Wrecking Crew example: if Al Jardine surreptitiously attempted to sell the rights to Brian Wilson's personal name & likeness to a third party while Brian was still alive, in violation of a written partnership agreement between them, and additionally attempted to sell related jointly-owned intellectual property such as "The Beach Boys," "Pet Sounds," all merchandizing rights, all online band properties (website, social media, etc.), and the exclusive ability to stage Beach Boys and Pet Sounds performances, whether by musicians, actors or holograms -- again, in violation of a written partnership agreement -- and THEN Al got caught in the act, blocked by the court, and went on national television to whine and play the victim -- then yes, I'd take issue with Al Jardine. And I happen to love Al's contribution to the Beach Boys, while also correctly recognizing it as a minority creative contribution versus that of Brian Wilson.
People Daryl Hall and John Oates are men, this happens, we are all human, we hope that one day they make peace, but only the future will tell, they are both very talented, but life is like that, but we hope that they will be friends one day, who knows? 🎉🎉🎉😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
While Oates was a good player/vocalist, its obvious who the heart & soul is...Oates maybe the feet, But Daryls a once in a generation talent
I Recently attended a Darryl Hall concert he sounded great after all these years. I also saw Hall & Oates back in the early days before they ever achieved massive success. I think I preferred the earlier struggling musicians more than seeing Darryl Hall performing with his backup band performing the hits from the past.
Private Eyes had been watching both of them, their kisses were not on each others list, and though the Female Man Eaters couldn't take them down. They had a ONE ON ONE situation of becoming OUT OF TOUCH- birthing a betrayal. They couldn't go for that" partnership. NO CAN DO>
my cousin worked at the china club in nyc in the 1980s. she said daryl hall and billy squier were the two biggest jerks out of all musicians she dealt with
My sisters best friend said Hall was HORRIBLE and Oates was wonderful to her back in the 80s.
Halls reputation from the music insiders that I know is horrible. Oates is known to be a good guy
I believe that. I met Billy Squier once. That kind of came through. He seemed to speak on a different level than others. No interaction with Hall or Oates though.
@@trebillis7399 your right because my cousin said squier wasnt a typical jerk its that he had elitist attitude about him he would only interact with people he felt were on his level he didnt curse people out or anything like that
@@trebillis7399 where did you meet squier?
It's sad it has come to this. Great band with some very good songs. I've seen them many times, aways a great show. I really like the Beauty on the Backstreets tour and album.
I saw Hall & Oates in the early 1990's. They were gigging at an Amusement Park in Northern VA. I was shocked. Then Again I also saw Wynonna Judd gigging there as well.
People have different visions for growth. When communication breaks down, bad things happen. Hopefully those bitter feelings from yesteryear can be set aside, and the joy of the music they created can once again be brought forward as it was originally. Imagine how well received a reunion tour would be.
Every partnership has a shelf life. Deal with it
Well. I liked their music a lot.. was listening on cassette tape I have. recently of them in the 80's. Great.
If Waters & Gilmour can agree to sell their Pink Floyd catalog, then I'd say Hall & Oates should have been a no-brainer. It's not what I like either, but it's how it's done today and Daryl Hall needs to realize this. Just take the money in your advanced age and enjoy your final years.
Not comparable. Pink Floyd's members came to an agreement to sell all of Pink Floyd's assets to Sony. Roger Waters didn't go behind David Gilmour's back, in violation of a legal partnership to sell to Sony and then get caught while a mediation process was already ongoing.
i hate they split i still listen to their big hits in the 80's
This is like Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel.
People used to joke about how Oates did nothing and it was Hall's band. But if that was the case Hall would have had a better solo career. Oates was a very important part. Hall has no right in saying Oates held him back. As far as the business relationship I can see however why Hall may object to Oates selling his publishing rights to a corporation. Too bad they could not work it out.
All anyone has to do to see through that s*** is to open up any of the albums and read the credits.
Heartbreaking. They were my favorite band
Oates has writing credits on the majority of the songs!
If all the huge hits that John Oates DOESN'T EVEN APPEAR ON had been credited as Daryl Hall records alone, the story would be very different. I'm talking about "Kiss on My List," "Private Eyes," "Did It In a Minute," "One on One, "Say It Isn't So," "Adult Education," "Method of Modern Love," "So Close," "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid," "Everything Your Heart Desires," not to mention a ton of album tracks. Pretty significant list, no?
@@iconoclassicrecords that has only todo with lyrics. No ones knows how many ideas where bounced back & forth during the arrangement process. No credit is given for that. In the end it all doesn’t matter. The facts are he was part of the duo. I wish someone would hold me back. Especially if it gets me the success that they earned.
Hall is in my top two artists of all time (after Dylan). With all respect to Oates, who is a Hall of Famer, Daryl did not ruin his reputation.
Humans are complicated and when they tell a story it usually isn't what really happened. it's what they remember, and believe what happened. Besides this most of us suffer from confirmation bias. We fill in the blanks without properly communicating. Most of these problems could have been fixed with proper control of emotions and active listening. It does not matter to me who is right and who is wrong. I am grateful for their incredible music and perhaps both should come together to celebrate this rather than continue to argue about who is right. Just my thoughts
Look at the famous duos in entertainment history. More often than not, they split up for similar reasons.
Fun Fact: the name of the duo is Daryl Hall & John Oates. Not Hall & Oates as commonly said. Look at all their album covers if you don't believe.
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It's not Haulin' Oats?
@sopwithsnoopy8779 no, but I like that version!
Not Quaker and Oats?
What a one sided 'report'.
Was wondering if someone was going to say this, so I wouldn't have to.
John is pushing 80 and wants to cash out. That is reasonable. Daryl needs to buy John out. I am sure that price is now the issue as I am certain that they both have different values in mind. The lawyers will sort it out. Daryl will buy out John's interests.
Daryl Hall 🤨had been shooting Daryl's Place for TV, playing with many other players & singers.
Oates is a second tier musician who was in the right place at the right time. Hall is a once in a generation titan who was going to be in the hall of fame no matter who his partner was
IMO the biggest mistaken Daryl made was to put John's name in the group. I didn't think John was talented Daryl was the handsome guy with the voice.
I agree, I think if you feel stagnated, you feel dead . How could Hall stay in that and slowly die ?
Why did I watch this?
Now I know which one is Hall, which one is Oates
The guy Hall needed to get as far as he’s gotten today ( and visa versa) . Otherwise it would’ve been HALL since the 70s , not Hall and OATES
Daryl Hall's first two solo albums were a departure from the dual sound, but his last four, not so much. On the other hand, John Oates' six solo albums all sound very different from the dual sound. But it's all good.
@@Hammster69official since Daryl wrote the bulk of the Hall & Oates music and sang lead, that would explain why you can hear a bit of H&O in much of his solo work. Kinda proves the point, doesn’t it …
Both of them are very talented. John has put out some amazing music since they split up. His music is very different from what Hall and Oates did. This could be both of their stories.
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This is why only one group leader works. It's not that the others have no say. It's that the group needs structure. A good leader takes good advice from his members, and good members do what their leader says regardless of what those decisions are. You can always disband.
Plenty of money made for both guys. Be thankful instead of bitter.
And that’s a good thing they not broke they could do whatever they want without worrying about money💰💰💰 Hall and Oates can go into right now and sell out the venue with no problems. Do you have a rich legacy i’m sorry that way they can’t get along anymore🥹
This is the very reason why I hate partnerships!!😡
Unless I walk a mile in their shoes it's not for me to judge.
When one is under creative pressure for a prolonged period of time how many of us would remain happy go lucky and easy-going?
As the behind the scenes manager with steady successes I imagine Oates was better able to maintain a steadier temperament.
I hope they live long enough to get past this.
Daryl wasn't necessarily the "creative force" behind the duo. He was the frontman but John wrote the choruses to their biggest hits "She's Gone", "Maneater" and "Out of Touch".
Y c eso ??????????😂😂😂😂😂
3 songs
@@susangortner3257 John has writing credits on the majority of the songs.
I hate how people see a frontman & think his responsible for everything. It takes more than just a frontman to succeed…
I'm fine with the fact that he was the main songwriter behind most of their output. Yet in the past, he always gave John credit but it seems just in recent years, he has wanted to revise the history and take almost all the credit for himself. That's kind of weird.
Another fan summed it up perfectly, a Genius and a guitar player!
@@davidmack4185 I actually prefer Daryl's SOLO music to the songs of their youth!
You do realize the guitar player has writing credits on the majority of the songs.
@@johncruz9357 While that is true, Daryl wrote the majority of the songs.
@@yvonnemaisonette9230 I’m assuming you’re not a musician. Everything to general public revolves around lyrics. Nobody ever thinks about the arrangements. I guarantee you Daryl or John brought lyrics to the rehearsal and ideas were bounced back and forth till the final arrangement was done. The sad part about that is you don’t get any credit for that. The arrangement is just as important as the lyrics.
Enter Greed. Stage right. Creativity, exit stage left.
"THE Rich Girl?" No, just "Rich Girl." "The Hall & Oates?" No, just "Daryl Hall and John Oates." And they were never really named "Hall & Oates."
I have always been a Hall & Oates fan. I was 17 in 1980 and loved all their music. In 1985 I moved to New York City and met a guy, a musician who knew both of them. He said John was much more down to earth than Daryl. Regarding Billy Squier, also loved his music. After reading some of the comments about him, I can believe them. He whined like a spoiled baby that the video for Rock Me Tonite ruined his career. I admit he had some kick a$$ music, again I was a big fan of his but blaming a video and the PTB behind it for a career dip is dumb. He seemed so bitter about this, grow up already! Back to Hall & Oates, a pity their relationship came to this but to me they will always be remembered as one of the greatest pop duos of all time. Both gave us some great hits and should be proud of that.
In both of the recent shows that I have seen with Hall and Oates and then just Hall, Daryl constantly complained about the volume of his monitor. He would stop mid-song and complain to the audience that he had a sound guy he would fire after the show. I thought at the first show that it was a fluke. Later, at the second show, several years later, he did the exact same thing. Hall is a great artist. However, the behavior he exhibits live is just insulting to the band, crew, and the audience.
STOP THIS :::::THIS IS PRIVATE SITUATION !!!!!!
This must be Daryl's side of the story, but I listened to a video months ago, about John telling his side of the story, and its way different than this.
John spoke very respectfully of Daryl, and wished him well, and John said that Daryl has achieved his ultimate goal of being a solo artist.
Cause John feels that that is what Daryl wanted all along.
Before the news of John trying to sell the music Oates was on a Los Angeles radio station and told Ellen K...someone is going to cry soon. A week later John blindsided Daryl. He's not so innocent
John Oates was the business man in the partnership. He was the one managing all the stuff while Daryl was the better songwriter and singer.
Hall could take all that time off and leave it to Oates. Hall could worry about the future while John is weighed down taking care of the last five decades.
Oates got tired. He couldn’t do it, anymore. Either he hands it over to someone else or it all collapses.
Hence why there is never any discussion of Daryl stepping up to help John out.
He wasn’t the business manager. In addition, he lost a great deal of his money.
Clearly a hit job against John Oats...
Who will haul oats now ???
Take the money and run guys!!
Sounds like both of them needed to get over themselves and appreciate what they have or had
Hall's solo work was awesome! I miss Hall and Oates cereal. Anyone remember that?
I didn't like his solo work as much as their group work
John Oates is simply a malcontent.
Throughout the band’s history and in-spite of Strong earnings of Hall and Oates, John always having money problems.
The last attempt of bailing himself out of his problems he went behind Daryl’s back in his attempt to sell the band’s catalog.
Mr Hall had to slap a lawsuit on his old partner to bring this to a halt.
Any damage to his reputation is a direct result of his actions, not Daryl Hall’s.
@@tommeredith7462 How do you know about John’s financial situation? He was trying to sell his half not Daryl’s….
@ He’s filed Bankruptcy in the past, sold off his airplane and toy’s.
He tried to sell Daryl’s share that’s why he was successful in filing injunction.
Google it for yourself
@@johncruz9357 Oates publicly said that he squandered most of his money.
Daryl's solo music sounds just like Daryl Hall and John Oates, without Oates. John's music is completely different.
Keep your struggles and problems to yourself. You don't have to answer to ANYBODY.
Remember hearing about these guy's in 74...and wondered why a band would call themselves "Hauling Oats"... lol 😆
Like the music of them. But nothing ist forever...
Daryl!!!!!!! What goes on ???????
I wonder what would have happened if Daryl Hall would have become lead vocalist of Van Halen? Eddie Van Halen begged him when David Lee Roth left Van Halen.
Garfunkel & Oates
Geez, they had there era back then and times changed. They just toured the last few years until John wen't after half the catalog causing the real devide. Daryl was not ready to sell what was 3/4 his?
A very biased and one sided point of view with lots of repetition
their dork songs were played non stop around 1982 at the expense of far better artists.
Sometimes it's the wife that can break them up behind the scenes (Remember John and Yoko?) albiet, Yoko was not entirely behind the scenes. Not criticizing her, and I don't know the whole story other than what I read about it and what Paul has said in interviews.
I like their song, "The Rich Girl".
"Rich Girl." No "the."
I saw Hall at the Mountain Winery last fall and he sucked. Rundgrun played for an hour then Hall came out sat at the piano mumbled through 4 songs then just stood up and walked off.
200.00 per ticket.
NEVER AGAIN
My sister when to one of the last Hall and Oates concerts today. She said Hall acted like he hated being there, stared at the keyboard, wnd had no energy. She went to their concert in the 80s and loved it. Hall is an egomaniac.
@@katyf7090 I saw hall and Oates in San Antonio in about 2017, I was front row center so i could see them both very well. Oates was playing and singing his rear off and was stone cold sober, hall, on the other hand was drunk or high or both, he was goofin and started rich girl in the wrong key and you could tell Oates was disappointed. I was too. oates was more professional that day. it's almost like hall had stage fright and had to be toasted to play, he does not seem like that on the TH-cam show.
Hall did not sing all that great either I know he is older but at least stay sober long enough to do the show! you are not a damn kid anymore.
Reputation still intact. Narrative is NOT true.
John Oats was always my favorite of the two.
Never have liked blonde hair guys!
Great memories from the 70 & 80’s.✌🏼
...what a lovely crafted encapsulation - most likely NOT REAL...
It's always the same old story
They just can't ride out the fame and money
There is always one that thinks they're an artist
A sneaky one
Then the break up....Hall was an ass
He sure is.
They just got bored and out of touch with each other.
@@JamesBond-ib9tq its called divorce.
It’s kind of amusing and sad that John Oates says that Daryl Hall can now have the solo career he always wanted. The man is 78. I mean, if he hasn’t found satisfaction in the music industry after 50+ years…
John Oates is the nicest guy and didn't deserve the treatment he received from Daryl. So unnecessary and disloyal on Hall's part.
I think it really is about power and control. It is tragic. Very sad. Hall does not want to share the limelight with his former musical partner. Actually I suspect that was the original plan. Hall was the lead singer. Mostly. Hall and his manager may have hoped to freeze Oates out. He was just the back up singer right ? I don't condone this. However Hall did the lion's share of the singing etcetera. This is my personal theory built over the years. A secret plan. Maybe I am wrong ? Anyway........
I didn't like halls solo work.change can be bad
Life is too short get along get a life.
Their problem is simple...... Zzzzzzzer0 mutual respect for one another.
Boys..boys..
I was never a fan. Actually, growing up in the 80's, when they would come on the radio I would lunge and turn the station. Terrible.
Baba Booey !
John Oats has a right to sell his part of the partnership ! He’s 76, you can’t take it with you.
I've seen this.
Are you saying that this is John's fault?
Does he know how to drain someone's life force, and cause intense heat, and hurt a person in the process?
Is he into metaphysical?
Nothing lasts forever.. Get over it and move on into the future
I'M GLAD TO SEE THEY WERE BOTH ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS 😢
Yes, they both seemed to have the same voice too. LOL. Classic case of putting words in people's mouths.
That's Baba Booey!
We saw Hall and Oates in San Jose, CA maybe 8 years ago. The band was great, but DARYL SUCKED!
A nutritionist said Oats can make you fat.
That’s why you have to eat Whole Oats.
This is very biased on the side of Daryl !!!! As the years progressed we could ALL see John being pushed into the role of a backup singer. John said so in interviews they had their time and now it's over
Another history lesson.
I just hit do not recommend
Bye
Partnerships are never a good idea unless you make everything clear in the beginning. Who gets credit, ownership, IP rights, management processes.. of course a couple of musical geniuses don’t think of these things and this is what happens.. I wonder how Bacharach & David, Campbell and Webb and John and Taupin survived intact?
Who’s John Oates? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I like their TH-cam channel, Good Mythical Morning. 😏
John Oates ruined is own reputation; he stabbed Daryl Hall in the back by trashing their partnership agreement.
Frankly, I don't give a 💩
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa rich girls whining 😂
Darryl was always the talent, and without him, no one would know who John Oats is!
Keep fooling yourself
Oats is a better guitar player.
@pb12661 Darryl plays guitar pretty good, and the keyboards, and sings amazing, and and is a good songwriter, and I would definitely go see him if he played near me, and you would have to pay me to go see John Oats
Wrong!
They both made a boat load of money together...stop your whining..count your blessings and move on with your lives.
For all the righteous, small brains...It's about money!
Very similar story to Foreigner with Mick Jones.
Except Lou Gramm actually was a huge part of the success. Oates...ehhh. Oates could have been replaced with any other guitar player.
cant stand any of their dorky songs other than darryl halls 1986 song dreamtime. hall was an opportunist who inserted himself into background singing for other better artists ruining their songs
Like two kids. Both made it big time: fame, success, money.... and still fight..... Just shut up and play..Duh
They need 2 kiss and make up 😘